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mikubuntuknome, my sis did sudo apt-get install openssh-server in the terminal does she need to restart or anything00:03
mikubuntuknome must be busy, is anyone else avail to help me access my sister's computer?  she installed openssh-server from terminal just now.00:08
mikubuntuhola, cody-somerville00:08
mikubuntuknome, you there?00:19
knomeyup00:19
mikubuntuknome, oops, din't see you  .. ok i installed the openssh-server on her computer and my computer, what do i do next to connect00:23
knomemikubuntu, 'ssh her_username@her_ip' on terminal00:23
mikubuntui tried that and i got 'bash: no such command' or something similar00:24
knomewithout the quotes?00:24
mikubuntuyes like    sshmikubuntu@http://44.394.283  except i used her username and ip address00:25
knomeno00:25
mikubuntuwhat'd i do wrong00:26
knomessh username@111.111.111.11100:26
knomeno http00:26
mikubuntuaaaaaaaahhhhh .. ok, but that will just give me terminal access?00:26
knomeyes00:26
mikubuntuhow was it you said to get to gui view?00:26
knomewhen you get the terminal access, you can type a command to get gui access00:27
mikubuntuknome, i get     ssh: connect to host 111.111.111.111 port 22: Connection timed out00:29
mikubuntudang.  just got a call have to run out.  gnna leave this open, if you have any pointers i'll come back an look soon as i get home .. thank for all your help so far00:33
knomechange 111.111.111.111 with her ip00:33
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fvshi - trying to install VBoxLinuxAdditions but getting a "your system does not seem to be set up to build kernel modules" Any quick fix?01:04
fvsFound fix: sudo apt-get install build-essential  linux-headers-generic01:07
alesioi'm new with xubuntu and i can't connect neither to hotmail or msn. i've tried with amsn and pidgin to acces my msn account, and firefox and chromium for hotmail, none of them worked. could anyone help me, please?02:11
alesioi think it has to do with the connection to the server. i need help, please02:17
ochosialesio: not sure anyone will be able to help you with that02:30
ochosiif your internet is working i don't see any reason why firefox wouldn't display hotmail02:30
Keithwondering if someone can help me?03:43
lakeI'm experiencing a slightly annoying problem. I have a panel with a launcher for terminal. When the launcher is clicked, terminal opens. However, terminal does not have focus, meaning when I type, text does not show up in terminal.05:35
lakeThis happens with firefox as well05:35
lakeAh, there's a "Focus and Raise" behavior setting in Compiz Config05:41
lakeWoot05:41
mad_adyhello campers :)06:15
mad_adygot a problem with nm-applet which doesn't show in my notification area06:16
mad_adybut the applet itself is running, just not displaying anything anywhere on the screen06:16
mad_adyany tips on how to start debugging?06:16
tetekhello everyone, i have got a problem with booting. I see a "starting up..." and than acer-wmi : no or not supported, how can I hide this message because all acer api works fine for me. Next how can i choose te booting image, is it xsplash or usplash in xubuntu? As far as I remember it is not working on my laptop because I wasn't using 'quiet' in grub. Can someone help me?09:34
tetekanybody?09:43
pteaguei love amarok2, it's just the awesomest dude... can we take it out back & shoot it to put it out of my misery?10:33
xubuntu685jkjkjkjk10:39
xubuntu685ololo blya10:40
xubuntu566why don't my serial mouse work? :(17:31
siddhionis anyone available?17:41
charlie-tcaxubuntu566: did you set up the serial port?17:45
charlie-tcasiddhion: yes,17:45
charlie-tca!anyone | siddhion17:45
ubottusiddhion: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?17:45
xubuntu566no, i have not set it up. how do i do that?17:47
charlie-tca!serial17:48
charlie-tcaxubuntu566: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto17:49
xubuntu566thank you, i will look at that :)17:51
mikubuntuknome, any chance you have some time to take me to the next level on the remote access issue?  i installed open ssh-server on my sis computer, but when i tried the command you gave me yestereday, ssh her_username@111.111.111.1111 i couldn not gain access17:55
mikubuntugot a 'connection timed out port:20' or similar17:56
mikubuntuochosi, you seemd to know about this ssh stuff, could you possibly help me?18:00
knomemikubuntu, switch 111.111.111.111 with her username18:01
knomei mean18:01
knomeher ip18:01
knomemikubuntu, and "her_username" with her user name18:01
mikubuntuknome, yes i did that18:03
mikubuntubut i got the connection timed out port:2018:03
ochosiisn't ssh usually using port 22ß18:04
ochosi?18:04
ochosior did you manually set it to port 2018:04
mikubuntuoops, just tried again, yes its 22, sry18:05
mikubuntustill timing out, not connecting18:06
mikubuntui don't understand how it would connect without a password?18:07
mikubuntui can't believe it would be that easy to access someones computer18:07
mikubuntuyesterday, you mentioned this command, which i never used, cause i din't know if it was for my computer or my sisters (the remote) computer  x11vnc -safer -accept -once -display :018:10
ochosiwithout a password you can never connect to any remote computer18:11
ochosithat would be madness18:11
ochosimikubuntu: have you set up the ssh server on your sisters computer correctly?18:12
mikubuntubut that connection command doesn't have any password18:12
mikubuntui think so i installed via terminal with sudo yesterday18:12
ochosiyou will be asked for the password as soon as your computer establishes the ssh-connection18:13
mikubuntusudo apt-get install openssh-server18:14
mikubuntuok, so it is still not connecting18:14
mikubuntucause it never prompts for pwrd18:14
ochosiexactly18:14
mikubuntuit goes about 17 blinks of the cursor, and times out18:15
ochosiis your sister behind a router?18:15
mikubuntuyou mean as opposed to just a modem?  i can't remember.18:16
ochosiif so: have you set up port forwarding in the router's setup?18:16
ochosiyes, as opposed to just a modem18:16
ochosithat's crucial18:16
mikubuntuwhat do i need to know about the router18:16
ochosithe login :)18:16
ochosii assume you can't remotely access it18:16
mikubuntui can call her18:17
ochosiunless that feature has been turned on (which i don't strongly advise you to)18:17
ochosiand then you have to change the port-forwarding settings18:17
ochosiadd a service that forwards all calls on port 22 to her lan-ip18:17
mikubuntuyour next to last statement not clear to me .. ?18:17
ochosibut anyways, i would strongly advise you to pick a different port18:17
ochosichanging the port-forwarding settings?18:18
ochosiwhat exactly isn't clear?18:18
mikubuntuya, you said 'i don't strongly advise you to'18:18
ochosiyes, remote access to a router is not as safe as ssh18:18
ochosiit's better if you configure the router from the lan18:19
mikubuntuhave her config the router on her end, you mean18:19
ochosiif you want to change the ssh port, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html18:19
ochosiexactly18:19
mikubuntui've got about 11 mins till she can get on the computer18:20
ochosimikubuntu: sry, g2g now, but i would assume that you know all the hints now, the web can help you with the rest ;)18:20
mikubuntuthanks ochosi18:20
ochosinp, yw18:20
mikubuntudon't overestimate my skills18:20
mikubuntuhaha18:20
mikubuntuomg.  i knew i couldn't fly solo on this ... i installed open ssh-server on mine, and the target remote computer, but i din't install     sudo apt-get install openssh-client    which is shown on the  page https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html18:25
mikubuntubut i really need help doing this i think, it's kind of over my head18:28
mikubuntugnna take a smoke break18:29
mikubuntuknome, or anyone have some time to help me setting up an ssh connection to my sister's computer?  i'm in over my head.20:09
knomemikubuntu, i'm here20:10
mikubuntui have installed ssh-server on both mine and her computer, but when i try to access it times out b4 ever connecting20:10
knomemikubuntu, what's her username?20:10
mikubuntuknome, hey whatup20:10
mikubuntudacheli20:10
knomeokay20:10
knomethen what's her ip's first number?20:11
mikubuntu7, sorry my firefox running real slow had to check my email again for her ip20:13
knomeokay, so then type in the terminal "ssh dacheli@7...[the rest of the ip]'20:13
mikubuntui did that many times but i get a connection timed out message, and it never asks me for password so i guess its not connecting20:14
knomethen i suppose there is a firewall between you two20:15
Sysiyou're connecting over internet?20:15
mikubuntuthats where i think i am prolly having the problem, but i not sure of steps to fix i looking at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC but i just more confused20:16
charlie-tcatry pinging the ip address and see what you get20:17
Sysii wonder if you have NAT also somewhere20:17
mikubuntucharlie-tca: ok, how :) ?20:18
charlie-tcain terminal, ping 7.?????20:18
charlie-tcaUse CTRL+C to stop it20:18
mikubuntuok, just ping and the address (without http://)20:18
charlie-tcaright, or you can use ping -c 4 7.?.?.?20:19
charlie-tcaand it will ping 4 times20:19
charlie-tcaThat will tell if the address is even valid20:20
mikubuntu25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 24030ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 36.447/46.948/216.067/34.542 ms20:21
charlie-tcaokay, that's a start20:21
knomecharlie-tca, i'm suspecting a firewll blocking the ssh port20:21
mikubuntudoes that indicate if firewall or not?20:21
charlie-tcaNow the big question20:21
charlie-tcadoes she have a /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.deny, or /etc/hosts.allow files blocking anything?20:22
charlie-tcaMost of the firewall setups automatically block pings now20:23
mikubuntuomg.  she's more of a dummy than i,  so asking that question of her won't get me anywhere .. if anything i can instruct her to do some copy/pasting into a terminal20:24
charlie-tcahmmm, well, I am out of ideas20:24
mikubuntuthats why i need access to the machine, to manage her updates, software installs etc20:24
mikubuntuyou suggest that there is no firewall charlie-tca ?20:25
charlie-tcaI am thinking the router setup20:25
charlie-tcaochosi mentioned it earlier20:26
mikubuntuis that something you guys can help me with, i can get her on the phone20:26
mikubuntuyes, he did20:26
charlie-tcaI can't help with it20:26
mikubuntuso i googled :: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+configure+router+for+ssh&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-820:27
charlie-tcamaybe if ochosi is still around?20:27
mikubuntuand the more i read, the less i know20:27
charlie-tcaheh20:27
charlie-tcame too! what a deal, huh?20:27
mikubuntuhahaha20:27
charlie-tcaknome: how to test for the firewall vs router settings?20:28
Sysitraceroute for ping or something?20:29
charlie-tcaI don't how to do it20:29
mikubuntuit's such a powerful tool, it would be great if it was more plug and play .. but i guess it has a lot of negative potential also20:31
mikubuntualtho we don't keep too many national security issues on our home computers20:31
mikubuntunot *that* concerned about security really20:32
charlie-tcaunfortunately, there is also the home user bank accounts20:32
mikubuntuwell, yeah20:33
mikubuntuforgot about that20:33
mikubuntuhaha20:33
mikubuntusome bad guy could clean out my bank account, and i'd be out $2.20:34
charlie-tcaand anything else you ever deposit20:34
charlie-tcaknome, Sysi : does the /etc/sshd_config file need to have the ip address in ListenAddress?20:36
Sysino?20:37
knomecharlie-tca, no20:45
* charlie-tca glad he did not suggest that, then20:45
siddhionhello. i was wondering if anyone ever experienced extremely slow (or broken) connection only with browsers such as Chrome and Firefox but healthy connection speeds with apps like Xchat, Transmission and Update Manager...and if you were able to solve that issue.20:54
siddhiondoes anyone know about the slow browser problem in Xubuntu 10.04?21:10
TheSheepsiddhion: I'd check if you use the right dns server21:33
TheSheepsiddhion: maybe that is slow21:33
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Ritchie_1hello21:36
Ritchie_1anyone here?21:37
Sysi!ask | Ritchie_121:37
ubottuRitchie_1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:37
Ritchie_1ok then :)21:37
Ritchie_1so is it very difficult to build a driver from source code under xubuntu for wireless card?21:38
TheSheepusually it's not needed21:38
Ritchie_1I don't know why but driver support for my wifi card ceased from one of the kernels21:39
S0210I can't remove my pendrive since I have xubuntu 10.04. :-( It is being written all the time according to the info box. Can I check somehow what application is gripping the pendrive?21:39
TheSheepS0210: yes, with the 'lsof | grep /media'21:39
Ritchie_1why do they take drivers out from the kernel? I can't understand why does it have any sense21:40
TheSheepS0210: in terminal21:40
Ritchie_1except from annoying me21:40
TheSheepRitchie_1: are you sure they have been removed? maybe they just have different defaults and changing some module loading options would fix it?21:40
TheSheepRitchie_1: I would search the forums for your wifi model name21:40
Ritchie_1how do I do it?21:40
Ritchie_1all the forums are about a sourceforge driver21:41
Ritchie_1that is quite old21:41
Ritchie_1and I have no clue how to install it21:41
Ritchie_1to tell you the truth I would not really waste my time with that as wel21:41
TheSheepmost of the time somebody already found the solution and described it21:42
TheSheepyou may also check on #ubuntu, it's the same driver-wise21:42
Ritchie_1it has some atmel chipset21:42
Ritchie_1isn't really important right now, but..21:43
Ritchie_1I was just wondering if you knew something about the basis, on which they decide that drivers shouldn't be included in the new kernels21:43
S0210TheSheep: it says Thunar is responsible for it. And it's true: after killing the not-seeable-but-running Thunar I can remove the pendrive easily. Might be a bug to be reported? {:-.21:44
Ritchie_1it is also interesting by the way, that the first time I installed ubuntu, there was also a problem with not recognising the devie, but then I had to install it again and the device worked fine..21:45
TheSheepS0210: yeah, it may be some stuck thumbnailer or somehting21:46
siddhionTheSheep: sorry i was not here. how to check my DNS server?21:47
TheSheepRitchie_1: did you try to run system->hardware drivers?21:47
S0210TheSheep: thank you!21:47
TheSheepsiddhion: it's configured, usually automatically from dhcp, in /etc/resolv.conf21:47
siddhionTheSheep: i am a newbeginner so I dont know how to do that. can you guide me?21:48
Ritchie_1TheSheep: 'no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"21:49
Ritchie_1is the message I get in Hardware Drivers21:49
Ritchie_1annoying indeed21:50
TheSheepsiddhion: you can just navigate to that file with thunar and open it as text file, or you can open the terminal and type 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'21:52
siddhionTheSheep: it says "bash: cat/etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory"22:01
Ritchie_1in the ubuntu room people are not really helpful22:05
siddhionTheSheep: never mind I added a space between cat and /22:05
siddhionRitchie_1: sometimes they are, sometimes not....earlier I got no help but now I am getting some.22:07
Ritchie_1should I start watching a film then and post my question later? :D22:08
Ritchie_1at least this function was not removed from xubuntu22:09
Ritchie_1yet22:09
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