[00:03] <mikubuntu> knome, my sis did sudo apt-get install openssh-server in the terminal does she need to restart or anything
[00:08] <mikubuntu> knome must be busy, is anyone else avail to help me access my sister's computer?  she installed openssh-server from terminal just now.
[00:08] <mikubuntu> hola, cody-somerville
[00:19] <mikubuntu> knome, you there?
[00:19] <knome> yup
[00:23] <mikubuntu> knome, oops, din't see you  .. ok i installed the openssh-server on her computer and my computer, what do i do next to connect
[00:23] <knome> mikubuntu, 'ssh her_username@her_ip' on terminal
[00:24] <mikubuntu> i tried that and i got 'bash: no such command' or something similar
[00:24] <knome> without the quotes?
[00:25] <mikubuntu> yes like    sshmikubuntu@http://44.394.283  except i used her username and ip address
[00:25] <knome> no
[00:26] <mikubuntu> what'd i do wrong
[00:26] <knome> ssh username@111.111.111.111
[00:26] <knome> no http
[00:26] <mikubuntu> aaaaaaaahhhhh .. ok, but that will just give me terminal access?
[00:26] <knome> yes
[00:26] <mikubuntu> how was it you said to get to gui view?
[00:27] <knome> when you get the terminal access, you can type a command to get gui access
[00:29] <mikubuntu> knome, i get     ssh: connect to host 111.111.111.111 port 22: Connection timed out
[00:33] <mikubuntu> dang.  just got a call have to run out.  gnna leave this open, if you have any pointers i'll come back an look soon as i get home .. thank for all your help so far
[00:33] <knome> change 111.111.111.111 with her ip
[01:04] <fvs> hi - trying to install VBoxLinuxAdditions but getting a "your system does not seem to be set up to build kernel modules" Any quick fix?
[01:07] <fvs> Found fix: sudo apt-get install build-essential  linux-headers-generic
[02:11] <alesio> i'm new with xubuntu and i can't connect neither to hotmail or msn. i've tried with amsn and pidgin to acces my msn account, and firefox and chromium for hotmail, none of them worked. could anyone help me, please?
[02:17] <alesio> i think it has to do with the connection to the server. i need help, please
[02:30] <ochosi> alesio: not sure anyone will be able to help you with that
[02:30] <ochosi> if your internet is working i don't see any reason why firefox wouldn't display hotmail
[03:43] <Keith> wondering if someone can help me?
[05:35] <lake> I'm experiencing a slightly annoying problem. I have a panel with a launcher for terminal. When the launcher is clicked, terminal opens. However, terminal does not have focus, meaning when I type, text does not show up in terminal.
[05:35] <lake> This happens with firefox as well
[05:41] <lake> Ah, there's a "Focus and Raise" behavior setting in Compiz Config
[05:41] <lake> Woot
[06:15] <mad_ady> hello campers :)
[06:16] <mad_ady> got a problem with nm-applet which doesn't show in my notification area
[06:16] <mad_ady> but the applet itself is running, just not displaying anything anywhere on the screen
[06:16] <mad_ady> any tips on how to start debugging?
[09:34] <tetek> hello everyone, i have got a problem with booting. I see a "starting up..." and than acer-wmi : no or not supported, how can I hide this message because all acer api works fine for me. Next how can i choose te booting image, is it xsplash or usplash in xubuntu? As far as I remember it is not working on my laptop because I wasn't using 'quiet' in grub. Can someone help me?
[09:43] <tetek> anybody?
[10:33] <pteague> i love amarok2, it's just the awesomest dude... can we take it out back & shoot it to put it out of my misery?
[10:39] <xubuntu685> jkjkjkjk
[10:40] <xubuntu685> ololo blya
[17:31] <xubuntu566> why don't my serial mouse work? :(
[17:41] <siddhion> is anyone available?
[17:45] <charlie-tca> xubuntu566: did you set up the serial port?
[17:45] <charlie-tca> siddhion: yes,
[17:45] <charlie-tca> !anyone | siddhion
[17:47] <xubuntu566> no, i have not set it up. how do i do that?
[17:48] <charlie-tca> !serial
[17:49] <charlie-tca> xubuntu566: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[17:51] <xubuntu566> thank you, i will look at that :)
[17:55] <mikubuntu> knome, any chance you have some time to take me to the next level on the remote access issue?  i installed open ssh-server on my sis computer, but when i tried the command you gave me yestereday, ssh her_username@111.111.111.1111 i couldn not gain access
[17:56] <mikubuntu> got a 'connection timed out port:20' or similar
[18:00] <mikubuntu> ochosi, you seemd to know about this ssh stuff, could you possibly help me?
[18:01] <knome> mikubuntu, switch 111.111.111.111 with her username
[18:01] <knome> i mean
[18:01] <knome> her ip
[18:01] <knome> mikubuntu, and "her_username" with her user name
[18:03] <mikubuntu> knome, yes i did that
[18:03] <mikubuntu> but i got the connection timed out port:20
[18:04] <ochosi> isn't ssh usually using port 22ß
[18:04] <ochosi> ?
[18:04] <ochosi> or did you manually set it to port 20
[18:05] <mikubuntu> oops, just tried again, yes its 22, sry
[18:06] <mikubuntu> still timing out, not connecting
[18:07] <mikubuntu> i don't understand how it would connect without a password?
[18:07] <mikubuntu> i can't believe it would be that easy to access someones computer
[18:10] <mikubuntu> yesterday, you mentioned this command, which i never used, cause i din't know if it was for my computer or my sisters (the remote) computer  x11vnc -safer -accept -once -display :0
[18:11] <ochosi> without a password you can never connect to any remote computer
[18:11] <ochosi> that would be madness
[18:12] <ochosi> mikubuntu: have you set up the ssh server on your sisters computer correctly?
[18:12] <mikubuntu> but that connection command doesn't have any password
[18:12] <mikubuntu> i think so i installed via terminal with sudo yesterday
[18:13] <ochosi> you will be asked for the password as soon as your computer establishes the ssh-connection
[18:14] <mikubuntu> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:14] <mikubuntu> ok, so it is still not connecting
[18:14] <mikubuntu> cause it never prompts for pwrd
[18:14] <ochosi> exactly
[18:15] <mikubuntu> it goes about 17 blinks of the cursor, and times out
[18:15] <ochosi> is your sister behind a router?
[18:16] <mikubuntu> you mean as opposed to just a modem?  i can't remember.
[18:16] <ochosi> if so: have you set up port forwarding in the router's setup?
[18:16] <ochosi> yes, as opposed to just a modem
[18:16] <ochosi> that's crucial
[18:16] <mikubuntu> what do i need to know about the router
[18:16] <ochosi> the login :)
[18:16] <ochosi> i assume you can't remotely access it
[18:17] <mikubuntu> i can call her
[18:17] <ochosi> unless that feature has been turned on (which i don't strongly advise you to)
[18:17] <ochosi> and then you have to change the port-forwarding settings
[18:17] <ochosi> add a service that forwards all calls on port 22 to her lan-ip
[18:17] <mikubuntu> your next to last statement not clear to me .. ?
[18:17] <ochosi> but anyways, i would strongly advise you to pick a different port
[18:18] <ochosi> changing the port-forwarding settings?
[18:18] <ochosi> what exactly isn't clear?
[18:18] <mikubuntu> ya, you said 'i don't strongly advise you to'
[18:18] <ochosi> yes, remote access to a router is not as safe as ssh
[18:19] <ochosi> it's better if you configure the router from the lan
[18:19] <mikubuntu> have her config the router on her end, you mean
[18:19] <ochosi> if you want to change the ssh port, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[18:19] <ochosi> exactly
[18:20] <mikubuntu> i've got about 11 mins till she can get on the computer
[18:20] <ochosi> mikubuntu: sry, g2g now, but i would assume that you know all the hints now, the web can help you with the rest ;)
[18:20] <mikubuntu> thanks ochosi
[18:20] <ochosi> np, yw
[18:20] <mikubuntu> don't overestimate my skills
[18:20] <mikubuntu> haha
[18:25] <mikubuntu> omg.  i knew i couldn't fly solo on this ... i installed open ssh-server on mine, and the target remote computer, but i din't install     sudo apt-get install openssh-client    which is shown on the  page https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[18:28] <mikubuntu> but i really need help doing this i think, it's kind of over my head
[18:29] <mikubuntu> gnna take a smoke break
[20:09] <mikubuntu> knome, or anyone have some time to help me setting up an ssh connection to my sister's computer?  i'm in over my head.
[20:10] <knome> mikubuntu, i'm here
[20:10] <mikubuntu> i have installed ssh-server on both mine and her computer, but when i try to access it times out b4 ever connecting
[20:10] <knome> mikubuntu, what's her username?
[20:10] <mikubuntu> knome, hey whatup
[20:10] <mikubuntu> dacheli
[20:10] <knome> okay
[20:11] <knome> then what's her ip's first number?
[20:13] <mikubuntu> 7, sorry my firefox running real slow had to check my email again for her ip
[20:13] <knome> okay, so then type in the terminal "ssh dacheli@7...[the rest of the ip]'
[20:14] <mikubuntu> i did that many times but i get a connection timed out message, and it never asks me for password so i guess its not connecting
[20:15] <knome> then i suppose there is a firewall between you two
[20:15] <Sysi> you're connecting over internet?
[20:16] <mikubuntu> thats where i think i am prolly having the problem, but i not sure of steps to fix i looking at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC but i just more confused
[20:17] <charlie-tca> try pinging the ip address and see what you get
[20:17] <Sysi> i wonder if you have NAT also somewhere
[20:18] <mikubuntu> charlie-tca: ok, how :) ?
[20:18] <charlie-tca> in terminal, ping 7.?????
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Use CTRL+C to stop it
[20:18] <mikubuntu> ok, just ping and the address (without http://)
[20:19] <charlie-tca> right, or you can use ping -c 4 7.?.?.?
[20:19] <charlie-tca> and it will ping 4 times
[20:20] <charlie-tca> That will tell if the address is even valid
[20:21] <mikubuntu> 25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 24030ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 36.447/46.948/216.067/34.542 ms
[20:21] <charlie-tca> okay, that's a start
[20:21] <knome> charlie-tca, i'm suspecting a firewll blocking the ssh port
[20:21] <mikubuntu> does that indicate if firewall or not?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> Now the big question
[20:22] <charlie-tca> does she have a /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.deny, or /etc/hosts.allow files blocking anything?
[20:23] <charlie-tca> Most of the firewall setups automatically block pings now
[20:24] <mikubuntu> omg.  she's more of a dummy than i,  so asking that question of her won't get me anywhere .. if anything i can instruct her to do some copy/pasting into a terminal
[20:24] <charlie-tca> hmmm, well, I am out of ideas
[20:24] <mikubuntu> thats why i need access to the machine, to manage her updates, software installs etc
[20:25] <mikubuntu> you suggest that there is no firewall charlie-tca ?
[20:25] <charlie-tca> I am thinking the router setup
[20:26] <charlie-tca> ochosi mentioned it earlier
[20:26] <mikubuntu> is that something you guys can help me with, i can get her on the phone
[20:26] <mikubuntu> yes, he did
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I can't help with it
[20:27] <mikubuntu> so i googled :: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+configure+router+for+ssh&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[20:27] <charlie-tca> maybe if ochosi is still around?
[20:27] <mikubuntu> and the more i read, the less i know
[20:27] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:27] <charlie-tca> me too! what a deal, huh?
[20:27] <mikubuntu> hahaha
[20:28] <charlie-tca> knome: how to test for the firewall vs router settings?
[20:29] <Sysi> traceroute for ping or something?
[20:29] <charlie-tca> I don't how to do it
[20:31] <mikubuntu> it's such a powerful tool, it would be great if it was more plug and play .. but i guess it has a lot of negative potential also
[20:31] <mikubuntu> altho we don't keep too many national security issues on our home computers
[20:32] <mikubuntu> not *that* concerned about security really
[20:32] <charlie-tca> unfortunately, there is also the home user bank accounts
[20:33] <mikubuntu> well, yeah
[20:33] <mikubuntu> forgot about that
[20:33] <mikubuntu> haha
[20:34] <mikubuntu> some bad guy could clean out my bank account, and i'd be out $2.
[20:34] <charlie-tca> and anything else you ever deposit
[20:36] <charlie-tca> knome, Sysi : does the /etc/sshd_config file need to have the ip address in ListenAddress?
[20:37] <Sysi> no?
[20:45] <knome> charlie-tca, no
[20:45]  * charlie-tca glad he did not suggest that, then
[20:54] <siddhion> hello. i was wondering if anyone ever experienced extremely slow (or broken) connection only with browsers such as Chrome and Firefox but healthy connection speeds with apps like Xchat, Transmission and Update Manager...and if you were able to solve that issue.
[21:10] <siddhion> does anyone know about the slow browser problem in Xubuntu 10.04?
[21:33] <TheSheep> siddhion: I'd check if you use the right dns server
[21:33] <TheSheep> siddhion: maybe that is slow
[21:36] <Ritchie_1> hello
[21:37] <Ritchie_1> anyone here?
[21:37] <Sysi> !ask | Ritchie_1
[21:37] <Ritchie_1> ok then :)
[21:38] <Ritchie_1> so is it very difficult to build a driver from source code under xubuntu for wireless card?
[21:38] <TheSheep> usually it's not needed
[21:39] <Ritchie_1> I don't know why but driver support for my wifi card ceased from one of the kernels
[21:39] <S0210> I can't remove my pendrive since I have xubuntu 10.04. :-( It is being written all the time according to the info box. Can I check somehow what application is gripping the pendrive?
[21:39] <TheSheep> S0210: yes, with the 'lsof | grep /media'
[21:40] <Ritchie_1> why do they take drivers out from the kernel? I can't understand why does it have any sense
[21:40] <TheSheep> S0210: in terminal
[21:40] <Ritchie_1> except from annoying me
[21:40] <TheSheep> Ritchie_1: are you sure they have been removed? maybe they just have different defaults and changing some module loading options would fix it?
[21:40] <TheSheep> Ritchie_1: I would search the forums for your wifi model name
[21:40] <Ritchie_1> how do I do it?
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> all the forums are about a sourceforge driver
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> that is quite old
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> and I have no clue how to install it
[21:41] <Ritchie_1> to tell you the truth I would not really waste my time with that as wel
[21:42] <TheSheep> most of the time somebody already found the solution and described it
[21:42] <TheSheep> you may also check on #ubuntu, it's the same driver-wise
[21:42] <Ritchie_1> it has some atmel chipset
[21:43] <Ritchie_1> isn't really important right now, but..
[21:43] <Ritchie_1> I was just wondering if you knew something about the basis, on which they decide that drivers shouldn't be included in the new kernels
[21:44] <S0210> TheSheep: it says Thunar is responsible for it. And it's true: after killing the not-seeable-but-running Thunar I can remove the pendrive easily. Might be a bug to be reported? {:-.
[21:45] <Ritchie_1> it is also interesting by the way, that the first time I installed ubuntu, there was also a problem with not recognising the devie, but then I had to install it again and the device worked fine..
[21:46] <TheSheep> S0210: yeah, it may be some stuck thumbnailer or somehting
[21:47] <siddhion> TheSheep: sorry i was not here. how to check my DNS server?
[21:47] <TheSheep> Ritchie_1: did you try to run system->hardware drivers?
[21:47] <S0210> TheSheep: thank you!
[21:47] <TheSheep> siddhion: it's configured, usually automatically from dhcp, in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:48] <siddhion> TheSheep: i am a newbeginner so I dont know how to do that. can you guide me?
[21:49] <Ritchie_1> TheSheep: 'no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[21:49] <Ritchie_1> is the message I get in Hardware Drivers
[21:50] <Ritchie_1> annoying indeed
[21:52] <TheSheep> siddhion: you can just navigate to that file with thunar and open it as text file, or you can open the terminal and type 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[22:01] <siddhion> TheSheep: it says "bash: cat/etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory"
[22:05] <Ritchie_1> in the ubuntu room people are not really helpful
[22:05] <siddhion> TheSheep: never mind I added a space between cat and /
[22:07] <siddhion> Ritchie_1: sometimes they are, sometimes not....earlier I got no help but now I am getting some.
[22:08] <Ritchie_1> should I start watching a film then and post my question later? :D
[22:09] <Ritchie_1> at least this function was not removed from xubuntu
[22:09] <Ritchie_1> yet
[22:38] <FotherMucker> Hello anyone?
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[22:46] <FotherMucker> This is a weird bot
[22:46] <FotherMucker> But hi anyway x]
[22:46] <MalkavianManiac> are you in need of any assistance?
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[22:48] <MalkavianManiac> you may also hang in #xubuntu-offtopic
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[22:51] <MalkavianManiac> good morning gnomefreak
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[23:06] <gnomefreak> n/win 1