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| Ursinha | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
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| Ursinha | Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues. | 17:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 11:00. The chair is Ursinha. | 17:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 17:00 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] Roll Call | 17:00 |
| Ursinha | Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us! | 17:00 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Roll Call | 17:00 |
| gmb | me | 17:00 |
| gary_poster | me | 17:00 |
| Ursinha | me | 17:00 |
| matsubara | me | 17:00 |
| Ursinha | Chex, sinzui, rockstar, hello | 17:01 |
| * rockstar | 17:01 | |
| bigjools | me | 17:01 |
| Ursinha | Chex and sinzui are missing | 17:01 |
| Chex | me | 17:01 |
| Ursinha | :) | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | only sinzui | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | let's move on, try to break rockstar's last week record | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | :) | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] Agenda | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | * Actions from last meeting | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett) | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | * DBA report (stub) | 17:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Agenda | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | * QA stats of the week | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | * Proposed items | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting | 17:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Actions from last meeting | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | None | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts | 17:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | only one bug, soyuz | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | bigjools must love me | 17:03 |
| Ursinha | bigjools, I see the last noodles' comment in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/580181, do you know if that's being tracked and fixed in another bug or one needs to be filed? | 17:03 |
| bigjools | it's in progress | 17:03 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 580181 in Soyuz "DistributionSourcePackageRelease page still oopsing with NotOneError/LocationError (affected: 1, heat: 8)" [High,Fix released] | 17:03 |
| bigjools | Ursinha: it needs a new bug | 17:03 |
| Ursinha | bigjools, so soyuz has two, this one and the critical | 17:03 |
| bigjools | heh | 17:03 |
| Ursinha | bigjools, I'll file one right after this meeting | 17:03 |
| sinzui | me | 17:03 |
| bigjools | cheers | 17:03 |
| Ursinha | bigjools, bug 589073 is in progress? | 17:04 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 589073 in Soyuz "Unhandled exception processing upload: permission denied for relation emailaddress (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589073 | 17:04 |
| Ursinha | is it really critical? | 17:04 |
| bigjools | Ursinha: yes, jelmer should have set that in progress ;) | 17:04 |
| bigjools | I don't think it is actually, I'll downgrade it | 17:04 |
| Ursinha | thanks bigjools | 17:04 |
| Ursinha | we have two critical bugs, one soyuz, one foundations, both being worked on then | 17:05 |
| Ursinha | failing scripts are retry-depwait, that's being fixed by bigjools, and karma-update, allocate-revision-karma and others that, according to spm's email, are failing because nightly.sh is taking about 36 hours to run | 17:05 |
| Ursinha | Is anyone taking care of this? | 17:05 |
| bigjools | retrydepwait is fixed and released | 17:05 |
| Ursinha | bigjools, right, cool | 17:06 |
| Ursinha | last failure was yesterday | 17:06 |
| Ursinha | gary_poster, about nightly.sh, is that foundations' domain? | 17:06 |
| sinzui | Ursinha, I think nightly.sh is/was a victim of the master/slave issue | 17:06 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, right | 17:07 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, it failed yesterday again | 17:07 |
| sinzui | nightly.sh has no owner. The losas do a lot of tinkering with it and they do not think they should | 17:07 |
| gary_poster | nominally foundations then I suppose | 17:07 |
| gary_poster | :-/ | 17:07 |
| sinzui | Since it takes 36 hours to run, we would expect it to fail even after the db was fixed | 17:08 |
| rockstar | It's a good thing that days are longer than 36 hours so that it can actually run nightly... | 17:08 |
| sinzui | Another failure to run on time would be worrisome and will warrant further investigation | 17:08 |
| gary_poster | agreed | 17:09 |
| Ursinha | yeah, right | 17:09 |
| gary_poster | And I certainly have not regarded nightly.sh as a foundations responsibility. I guess that needs to change. Ursinha, please do help me kick myself about this :-) | 17:09 |
| gary_poster | but for now I think we can move on | 17:09 |
| Ursinha | gary_poster, sure | 17:09 |
| Ursinha | :) | 17:10 |
| Ursinha | good | 17:10 |
| matsubara | I don't think nightly.sh should be exclusively foundations | 17:10 |
| sinzui | gary_poster, rockstar, other than the karma-cache update, I think everything in nightly can be parallelised. | 17:10 |
| matsubara | I think the losas are pretty good at identifying which scripts run by nightly.sh are the worst offenders and then the responsible team should take care of that script | 17:10 |
| sinzui | the scripts in it belong to code, bugs, translations, and registry | 17:10 |
| matsubara | taking the last run for example, package cache and bugtask target names are the worst offenders | 17:11 |
| gary_poster | matsubara: no, but if no-one is in charge of something, historically that means foundations. I'd certainly like it if losas could take that ownership though | 17:11 |
| sinzui | and soyuz then | 17:11 |
| matsubara | so malone and soyuz(?) should take care of those first | 17:11 |
| sinzui | Most failures are spurious. | 17:12 |
| Ursinha | matsubara, sinzui, gary_poster, what do you think about discussing that in the email spm sent? this way we can be sure everyone else can join the discussion | 17:12 |
| gary_poster | cool thanks | 17:12 |
| sinzui | The 9 times out of 10, the last proc ran late because of something else run in the sequence | 17:12 |
| Ursinha | ok, so I'll move on | 17:13 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett) | 17:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett) | 17:13 |
| Chex | hello everyone, short report this week: | 17:13 |
| Chex | - LP incidents of note, quiet week: | 17:13 |
| Chex | : Jun 08: lpnet15 died, restarted | 17:13 |
| Chex | : Jun 10 : poppy on germanium had died (process died) - restarted | 17:13 |
| Chex | Us LOSAs are now searching on Canonical-losas -tagged bugs, here: | 17:14 |
| Chex | https://pastebin.canonical.com/33309/ | 17:14 |
| Chex | I am curious about status of: 45419 Launchpad needs a way of easily flagging spam | 17:14 |
| Chex | In the future I will try to bring up critical LP related bugs from this list, to see progress and such, and see if you need any help from us at all. | 17:14 |
| Ursinha | bug 45419? | 17:14 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 45419 in Launchpad Foundations "Launchpad needs a way of easily flagging spam (affected: 7, heat: 60)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45419 | 17:14 |
| Ursinha | gary_poster should know that ^ | 17:15 |
| gary_poster | Foundations does not have that anywhere in our plans ATM. | 17:15 |
| Ursinha | right.. | 17:15 |
| Chex | gary_poster: ok, fair enough, then | 17:15 |
| Ursinha | anyone else has questions to Chex? | 17:16 |
| gary_poster | Chex, that doesn't mean you can't/shouldn't make a stink about that fact :-) | 17:16 |
| sinzui | If this is a foundations issue, we schema a behavioural changes made near/on IMessage so that all types of messages get the desired feature | 17:16 |
| Chex | gary_poster: aha, ok then. It is a time-consuming task for us, and having a automated spam-reporting/tagging feature would be highly useful to us | 17:16 |
| Ursinha | ok, moving on | 17:17 |
| Ursinha | thanks Chex | 17:17 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub) | 17:17 |
| Ursinha | Already requested | 17:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * DBA report (stub) | 17:17 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] * QA stats of the week | 17:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * QA stats of the week | 17:17 |
| Ursinha | I followed up the bugs' ownership in the mailing list | 17:17 |
| gary_poster | Chex: spam-reporting: mars and sinzui have the expertise here. I'll try to coordinate with them. | 17:18 |
| sinzui | I had a plan | 17:18 |
| rockstar | sinzui, it's because you're a Cylon. | 17:18 |
| sinzui | a comprehensive one infact | 17:18 |
| gmb | Was it a cunning plan? | 17:18 |
| sinzui | That would explain why I can do so long without sleep | 17:19 |
| matsubara | heheh | 17:19 |
| sinzui | It had a tail like a fox | 17:19 |
| * gary_poster chuckles | 17:19 | |
| gmb | Any more pop-culture references we can fit in here? | 17:19 |
| Ursinha | hahaha | 17:19 |
| sinzui | We seem to have missed monthy python | 17:19 |
| sinzui | Monty Python | 17:19 |
| sinzui | I will include that in my email to gary_poster and maris | 17:20 |
| Ursinha | thanks sinzui hehe | 17:20 |
| gary_poster | thanks sinzui | 17:20 |
| Ursinha | moving on again then | 17:20 |
| Ursinha | [TOPIC] * Proposed items | 17:20 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Proposed items | 17:20 |
| Ursinha | I have one | 17:20 |
| Ursinha | we know that this meeting's format isn't ideal, and we couldn't find a way to change it to become really useful | 17:21 |
| Ursinha | we also realized the qa contacts initiative isn't that effective as we thought in the beginning | 17:21 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, for the code team, the only things that are really useful for us are the DB and LOSA reports. | 17:21 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, yeah, I'm getting there :) | 17:21 |
| rockstar | "Shutting up sir" | 17:22 |
| Ursinha | haha no | 17:22 |
| Ursinha | so, after talking with flacoste, we decided to get rid of this meeting as we know | 17:22 |
| sinzui | I care about the oopses actually. Since I read them every day I like to know when they will be closed or provide info about how to close them | 17:22 |
| Ursinha | pause for cheering and etc | 17:22 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, so we're doing away with it entirely? | 17:22 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, yeah | 17:23 |
| bigjools | *golfclap* | 17:23 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, as a replacement, there will be created a section in the TLs meeting, a QA one | 17:23 |
| Ursinha | and me and matsubara should attend | 17:23 |
| Ursinha | we'll keep discussing that with the TLs, so sinzui, you'll still know about the oopses | 17:23 |
| sinzui | sweet. I wonder if the meeting will go back over an hour again | 17:23 |
| Ursinha | and bigjools, you won't get rid of us | 17:24 |
| Ursinha | *evil laugh* | 17:24 |
| Ursinha | :P | 17:24 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 17:24 |
| bigjools | :) | 17:24 |
| Ursinha | about the LOSAs and DBA report | 17:24 |
| Ursinha | a weekly report should be sent to the list, so we'll all keep posted about it | 17:24 |
| Ursinha | so, that's it | 17:24 |
| Chex | ok, sounds good, I can do that. | 17:25 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, maybe we can have a [QA] subject addition for QA related items. | 17:25 |
| Ursinha | thanks a lot Chex, losa's reports are really important | 17:25 |
| rockstar | (I suspect I'll still have to deal with QA stuff within my team) | 17:25 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, well, it should be dealt with whoever attends the TLs meeting in behalf of code | 17:26 |
| Chex | Ursinha: yes I understand that, it helps us, too. I will try to pop my head in on the TLS meetings, too, | 17:26 |
| Ursinha | is that you? | 17:26 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, no. | 17:26 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, so I guess you will only have to worry about your own QA from now on | 17:26 |
| rockstar | Ursinha, okay. | 17:26 |
| Ursinha | that's all then | 17:27 |
| Ursinha | anyone else wants to add something? | 17:27 |
| Ursinha | okay | 17:28 |
| Ursinha | so, it was very nice to have you for these two years in this weekly meeting | 17:28 |
| Ursinha | thanks all | 17:28 |
| gary_poster | thank you Ursinha :-) | 17:28 |
| Ursinha | Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda for the logs. | 17:28 |
| gary_poster | bye | 17:28 |
| Ursinha | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 11:28. | 17:28 |
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| Ursinha | sinzui, I thought the irc meeting was postponed in one hour to avoid conflicting with the TLs call | 17:45 |
| sinzui | Ursinha, oh yes, it was. We changed the meeting format a short while ago to avoid the extra meeting on Thursday | 17:46 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, oh, I see | 17:46 |
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