| BUGabundo | WTH | 00:18 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | opening FF 3.6 restarted metacity/compiz?? | 00:18 |
| h00k | So, using Unity, I had to manually turn netbook-launcher off on my session, but it's pretty slick. | 00:23 |
| h00k | it's pretty responsive, anyway. | 00:26 |
| arand | BUGabundo: Heh, is that the old a buried mm bug cropping up again? | 00:27 |
| BUGabundo | never saw it | 00:27 |
| duffydack | does the netbook iso install with unity or the old menu | 00:37 |
| BUGabundo | old | 00:39 |
| BUGabundo | you need the PPA for it | 00:39 |
| BUGabundo | and I need to restest it too | 00:39 |
| duffydack | i thought if it was default in 10.10 (?) it would be in already.. | 00:40 |
| arand | BUGabundo: Bug #584287 was the one back then... | 00:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 584287 in metacity "Unexpected X error (BadDrawable) causing metacity to abort in maverick" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584287 | 00:46 |
| arand | BUGabundo: [Fix Released,High] | 00:46 |
| BUGabundo | but I'm in compiz :S | 00:46 |
| arand | Wouldn't surprise me if it's CSD again :/ | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | I'm tired of all this mambo jambo | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | but I can't run stable either :( | 00:47 |
| arand | No? | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | I hate stable, no fun, no cutting edge stuff | 00:48 |
| arand | Heh, true, but I'm waiting for btrfs until I do my metal-install of MM... | 00:49 |
| Volkodav | Is it available in the installer though ? | 00:50 |
| arand | Dunno, planned to test that, brb... | 00:50 |
| arand | Nope, no btrfs in the current alternate installer at least, which i assume means it by no way has made it into ubiquity /me is a sad panda | 00:56 |
| DrHalan | okay seems like kernel and x packages are broken atm? | 00:58 |
| h00k | DrHalan: X is in a state of \o/ kinda/sorta | 01:01 |
| arand | DrHalan: Held back, it's the great coming of the 1.8 afaik | 01:01 |
| DrHalan | yeah guessed so | 01:01 |
| rww | h00k: mhm, I had fun with that yesterday | 01:01 |
| rww | dependency hell \o/ | 01:01 |
| h00k | DrHalan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2010-June/011587.html | 01:02 |
| h00k | rww: yay! | 01:02 |
| h00k | I have 18 xserver packages being held atm | 01:02 |
| DrHalan | does teh new kernel package work for you guys? i get some errors on configureing | 01:02 |
| rww | h00k: I have three or four (plus a bunch of unrelated KDE stuff), 'cause I remove the input and video ones I don't need | 01:03 |
| h00k | rww: I didn't :) I'm just going to let it do it's thing | 01:03 |
| DrHalan | hook, thanks. Target X for maveric is 1.9 right? so there will be another upgrade | 01:03 |
| h00k | DrHalan: I think so, yes | 01:04 |
| h00k | DrHalan: You can join ubuntu-devel-discuss to get warnings and stuff, too | 01:04 |
| h00k | and it's free! | 01:04 |
| DrHalan | lol | 01:04 |
| DrHalan | maybe i should. you can never have enough mailinglists | 01:04 |
| IdleOne | h00k: 31 xserver packages being held back. I win :P | 01:17 |
| h00k | IdleOne: :( pffffffffffff | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | no | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | i win | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | my X just froze | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | took it 30 sec to respond to REISUB | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | and from recovery, I fsck, updated files, and rebooted to new kernel | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | h00k: I confirm gwibber works :) | 01:24 |
| h00k | BUGabundo: cool | 01:25 |
| BUGabundo | nite | 01:50 |
| cozziemoto | what is the best way to update from lucid to maverick? | 02:18 |
| arand | cozziemoto: Take relevant backups, make sure you have non-LTS upgrdes enabled, "do-release-upgrade -d", EXPECT it to break. With all the xorg flux atm it might be worthwhile waiting until it's settled.. | 02:32 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| jetienne | !info nodejs | 07:14 |
| ubottu | nodejs (source: nodejs): Node.js event-based server-side javascript engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.97-1 (maverick), package size 345 kB, installed size 952 kB | 07:14 |
| jetienne | excelent | 07:14 |
| jetienne | !info gcc | 07:17 |
| ubottu | gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.93ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.4-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB | 07:17 |
| lazaro | when I click on about gnome it says I have lucid whe n I really have maverick installed | 08:23 |
| lazaro | sorry, I ment to say , when I click on about ubuntu | 08:23 |
| vega | and..? | 08:26 |
| vega | it's not even alpha, don't expect every little detail to be up to date | 08:27 |
| lazaro | I'm just reporting | 08:28 |
| nperry | is xserver stil held back | 08:47 |
| histo | Anyone here play desktop defender on facebook? Its not loading for me for somereason right now. Stops after loading creeps | 08:52 |
| histo | Just wondering if someone can confirm | 08:52 |
| LIONLIX | hi guys | 09:31 |
| LIONLIX | once i upgrade to alpha1 the ati driver gone and cant install any xserver-xorg packages ???!!! | 09:32 |
| vega | !!! | 09:47 |
| Ian_corne | Score is -3737 | 11:27 |
| Ian_corne | meh :p | 11:28 |
| Ian_corne | noty | 11:28 |
| jpds | Nice. | 11:28 |
| Ian_corne | partly kde's fault | 11:29 |
| Ian_corne | and I only use kile :( | 11:29 |
| Ian_corne | used* | 11:29 |
| dholbach | Packaging Training Session in 15m in #ubuntu-classroom: Operation Cleansweep and the Patch Reviewers Team! | 12:45 |
| vish | !ping | 13:38 |
| ubottu | pong | 13:38 |
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| dupondje | bleh :) still waiting for xorg updates | 15:28 |
| arand | aptitude removed from -standard? Excuse me while I rage for an hour or two :/ | 15:30 |
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| epaulin | aptitude removed from standard due to the disk space? what's the replacer? | 17:10 |
| MaximLevitsky | was 2.6.35 uploaded to maveric yet? | 17:10 |
| epaulin | even this is not affecting me, it made me sad. | 17:11 |
| ZykoticK9 | MaximLevitsky, i'm currently using 2.6.35-2-generic from default Ubuntu repo | 17:14 |
| MaximLevitsky | ZykoticK9: thanks! | 17:14 |
| coz_ | anyone have a decent sources.list for maverick? | 17:46 |
| arand | coz_: Yea, hang on. | 17:52 |
| coz_ | arand, cool | 17:53 |
| === pgraner is now known as pgraner-afk | ||
| arand | coz_: http://pastebin.com/e7ywe2mt using UK local mirrors, but it should be easily changeable in software sources once you've put it in sources.list (But do make a backup of your current one first of course before you replace with mine). | 17:55 |
| coz_ | arand, thanks will play with this one :) | 17:56 |
| arand | coz_: You are going to use it on mverick I hope? | 17:56 |
| coz_ | arand, yeah unless I want to be real stupid :) | 17:57 |
| arand | Just making sure you're aware ;) | 17:57 |
| coz_ | arand, i could try it on warty warthog to see what happens lol | 17:57 |
| arand | I'd like to see that :) | 17:58 |
| coz_ | arand, I still have all the install disks here from day one... I should install them and relish in the progress :) | 17:59 |
| * nperry would very much like to play with xserver 1.8 | 17:59 | |
| coz_ | i dont think I could handle going back to warty though :) | 17:59 |
| arand | hrm, I get a headache just by hardy.. | 18:00 |
| coz_ | :) | 18:02 |
| knittl | there are a lot of xserver-xorg-* packages kept back | 18:06 |
| knittl | safe to full-upgrade? | 18:06 |
| knittl | hm no, want's to remove nvidia … :D | 18:06 |
| knittl | * wants | 18:11 |
| nperry | Hmmm mine only wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all :/ | 18:15 |
| coz_ | nperry, I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade with no issues here | 18:36 |
| coz_ | nperry, of course that doesnt mean much :) | 18:38 |
| ZykoticK9 | Is anyone experiencing problems connecting to Facebook-chat with Empathy? It is working on my Lucid box(s) but Maverick shows "Network error" in red on GUI. Running "empathy" from CLI doesn't provide any output. | 18:42 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 18:53 |
| dupondje | hellow : | 18:57 |
| dupondje | :) | 18:57 |
| nperry | Evening :) | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | hey nperry | 19:04 |
| === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre | ||
| sebsebseb | Hi | 19:57 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_AFK | ||
| BUGabundo | wow | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo | that's a FAIL | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo | laptop complains of low power | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | I plug it in | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | complains of critical | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | I noticed its not pluged to the socket | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | plug it in, and it still goes to standby after I press cancel in the popup | 20:12 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: can you pastebin your zsync script please | 20:16 |
| gnomefreak | i lost it when my flash drive broke so i picked up another one and want to back that up | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | gnomefreak: $ pastebinit zsyncu http://paste.ubuntu.com/447909/ | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | I need to merge it with the old script | 20:17 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: thanks | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | to make it bash complaint | 20:17 |
| Ian_corne | BUGabundo: I think that's because you maybe waited to long to click cancel? | 20:18 |
| Ian_corne | just save your system | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | right now is just a copy paste helper | 20:18 |
| gnomefreak | its not in bash? | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | not that version | 20:18 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: it was already charning, according to the power led | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | should NEVER have gone into stanby | 20:18 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: you dont have one for the alternate installer? | 20:19 |
| BUGabundo | gnomefreak: shouldn't be to hard for a guy like you :) | 20:19 |
| BUGabundo | gnomefreak: usually no. just livecd and dvd (which has both) | 20:19 |
| BUGabundo | but just sed one of them | 20:19 |
| gnomefreak | its not i hope should be cpy+pst change daily-live to alt. | 20:19 |
| gnomefreak | not like it matters there is no daily image | 20:24 |
| gnomefreak | alternate again | 20:25 |
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| BUGabundo | gnomefreak: yes there is. for all of them, right now | 20:32 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: the alternate daily page has none, its been on and off since A1 | 20:32 |
| BUGabundo | really? | 20:33 |
| * BUGabundo checks | 20:33 | |
| BUGabundo | empty http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 20:33 |
| timboy | with maverick can I have two mouse cursors yet? | 20:33 |
| BUGabundo | at least http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ its there | 20:33 |
| BUGabundo | timboy: good question | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | let me know if you find out | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | try asking #ubuntu-x | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | or ping bjsnider or Sarvatt | 20:34 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: live has been there it never had this issue (during maverick) but alts seem problematic | 20:35 |
| BUGabundo | live wasn't there the day I made the script :) | 20:35 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: out of the pat 2 week alt has been up maybe 3-4 days and 2 of tose was a 704mb build | 20:36 |
| * gnomefreak brb smoke | 20:37 | |
| dupondje | somebody knows a script to built daily kernel ? | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | do you guys know http://code.google.com/p/mail-trends/ ? | 20:50 |
| fqh | Hi all, I found that command "hdparm -B 128 /dev/sda" depend on gnome-power-manager. If gnome-power-manager is not running, "hdparm -B 128 /dev/sda" will not take effect. So if I close X and live only in pure-tty, I can't set 128 for /dev/sda. Is it a bug? | 21:03 |
| fqh | I think hdparm should get rid of gnome-power-manager, why hdparm can't work without gnome-power-manager ? It's strange and not convenient. | 21:08 |
| BUGabundo | can anyone test mocp for me? | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | seems its broken | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 21:12 |
| gnomefreak | fqh: for that i would file a bug, but i get the feeling it _has_ to depend on it. | 21:15 |
| psusi | hdparm has nothing to do with g-p-m... it talks directly to the drive | 21:15 |
| fqh | Yes, I think so too. But running "sudo hdparm -B 128 /dev/sda" under icewm or pure-tty , it can't take effect. "sudo hdparm -B /dev/sda" shows that the setting will return to 254 soon. | 21:16 |
| psusi | fhq: you mean hdparm -B /dev/sda shows 128, then if you repeat it a few times, it goes back to 254? | 21:16 |
| psusi | fhq: you must have something else running that is calling hdparm then, like laptp-mode-tools? | 21:17 |
| fqh | psusi: yes, | 21:17 |
| gnomefreak | not should what i was thinking about. libc6 is only dep of hdparm | 21:17 |
| fqh | psusi: How to find if I running laptp-mode-tools? | 21:18 |
| psusi | fqh: see if you installed the package? | 21:18 |
| fqh | psusi: No, laptop-mode-tools is not installed, but pm-utils-powersave-policy is installed. | 21:20 |
| dupondje | compiling own kernel atm | 21:23 |
| dupondje | damn the current one has a dirty bug :( | 21:23 |
| BUGabundo | bahhhh | 21:23 |
| BUGabundo | bitten again by exaile :( | 21:24 |
| psusi | fqh: that could be it | 21:26 |
| fqh | psusi: Does pm-utils-powersave-policy push setting back to 254? Can we let it not do such thing? | 21:30 |
| psusi | fqh: not sure, but quite likely | 21:31 |
| dupondje | BUGabundo: there is gwibber update out :p | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | there is? | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: 2.31.1~bzr743-0ubuntu1~daily1 | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | looks the same to me | 21:33 |
| dupondje | Haal:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main gwibber 2.30.0.1-0ubuntu4 [320kB] | 21:33 |
| dupondje | ah your using the real edge :P | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | always | 21:33 |
| dupondje | lets hope we can upgrade xorg soon :) | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | WOOT | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | kmail works fine again | 21:37 |
| dupondje | root 4811 3.2 0.0 0 0 ? S 23:12 0:17 [flush-9:0] | 22:21 |
| dupondje | what kind of process is this ? | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | kernel | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | writing to disk | 22:21 |
| dupondje | hm k :) | 22:22 |
| DrHalan | is gnome-power-manager broken? | 22:29 |
| dupondje | there they are | 22:31 |
| dupondje | the xorg packages :P | 22:31 |
| DrHalan | really? | 22:31 |
| dupondje | y | 22:31 |
| DrHalan | does teh new xorg finaly not create a dependency hell? | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | don't force upgrades of X for a few days | 22:33 |
| dupondje | didn't force | 22:33 |
| dupondje | dependencies are ok now | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | then wait | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | nvidia is broken for now | 22:33 |
| dupondje | Ok upgraded xorg packages | 22:38 |
| dupondje | working smooth :) | 22:38 |
| gnomefreak | they showed up in changes list but it still wants to remove 2 needed packages | 22:41 |
| dupondje | gnomefreak: aptitude update | 22:42 |
| dupondje | didn't need to remove anything here | 22:42 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: nvidia has been broken at least for me. im on upstream drivers | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | wfm | 22:42 |
| gnomefreak | once i get this garbage cleaned up i will test it | 22:42 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: misee bug 591001 about flash upgrade | 22:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 591001 in adobe-flashplugin (Ubuntu) "CVE-2010-1297: Security Advisory for Flash Player, Adobe Reader and Acrobat " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591001 | 22:43 |
| gnomefreak | its been pushed it seems | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | I _think_ I'm using upstream .so | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | I have a feed monitoring for page changes | 22:45 |
| gnomefreak | ok sasved you headaches | 22:47 |
| gnomefreak | 3.1RC2 has been released | 22:49 |
| gnomefreak | oops | 22:52 |
| dupondje | bleh, want to play a wmv, and it fails :s | 22:52 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: aptitude isnt updateing it | 22:53 |
| dupondje | gnomefreak: updating xorg ? | 22:53 |
| gnomefreak | dupondje: its not | 22:53 |
| gnomefreak | but i think i know what will :) | 22:54 |
| gnomefreak | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 39 not upgraded. using safe-upgrade | 22:55 |
| dupondje | weird | 22:57 |
| dupondje | it updated here :s | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | dupondje: yeah I had that, but bjsnider helped me work around it | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | you need to install one package | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | lib something 49 | 22:57 |
| gnomefreak | even smart wants to remove 2 nvidia and the 2 X packages | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | libavutil49 | 22:58 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: for X? | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | for codecs | 22:58 |
| gnomefreak | that is a player lib? | 22:58 |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 22:58 |
| gnomefreak | they updatedf that a while ago | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | its a mess in there | 22:58 |
| gnomefreak | there is also a 51 IIRC | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | seems many players weren't rebuilt to use the new dep | 22:59 |
| gnomefreak | or 52 | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | not here | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | !info libavutil51 | 22:59 |
| ubottu | Package libavutil51 does not exist in maverick | 22:59 |
| gnomefreak | libavutil50 was replacve with | 22:59 |
| gnomefreak | libavutil50 - ffmpeg utility library | 23:00 |
| gnomefreak | sorry replaced something | 23:00 |
| * BUGabundo starts totem in debug to see why music stops | 23:01 | |
| * dupondje is going to bed | 23:01 | |
| dupondje | nite :) | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | nite | 23:02 |
| Daekdroom | What? Aptitude no longer ships with standard? | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo | WHAT? | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo | really? | 23:51 |
| Daekdroom | BUGabundo, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/2010-June/001202.html | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache rdepends aptitude | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | its not in desktop ?! | 23:52 |
| yofel_ | it was in standard | 23:55 |
| yofel_ | they removed aptitude and tasksel from there though for some reason | 23:55 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | linux for human beings doesn't think of sysadmins as human beings I guess | 23:56 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, I read from a blog it was so they could free 13-14MB from the CD. | 23:56 |
| jcastro | I guess that depends on the kind of sysadmins you hang out with | 23:56 |
| yofel | jcastro: true | 23:57 |
| yofel | Daekdroom: ah, might make sense, I'm still going to miss it though | 23:57 |
| patdk-wk | sysadmins aren't human | 23:57 |
| Daekdroom | Why not fully replace apt-get with aptitude? o.o | 23:57 |
| IdleOne | h00k: Now at 36 xserver packages held back :) | 23:58 |
| IdleOne | further along we get the more packages are held back | 23:59 |
| BUGabundo | Daekdroom: most docs use apt-get and not aptitude | 23:59 |
| Daekdroom | well, indeed.. | 23:59 |
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