[00:18] WTH [00:18] opening FF 3.6 restarted metacity/compiz?? [00:23] So, using Unity, I had to manually turn netbook-launcher off on my session, but it's pretty slick. [00:26] it's pretty responsive, anyway. [00:27] BUGabundo: Heh, is that the old a buried mm bug cropping up again? [00:27] never saw it [00:37] does the netbook iso install with unity or the old menu [00:39] old [00:39] you need the PPA for it [00:39] and I need to restest it too [00:40] i thought if it was default in 10.10 (?) it would be in already.. [00:46] BUGabundo: Bug #584287 was the one back then... [00:46] Launchpad bug 584287 in metacity "Unexpected X error (BadDrawable) causing metacity to abort in maverick" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584287 [00:46] BUGabundo: [Fix Released,High] [00:46] but I'm in compiz :S [00:47] Wouldn't surprise me if it's CSD again :/ [00:47] :( [00:47] I'm tired of all this mambo jambo [00:47] but I can't run stable either :( [00:47] No? [00:48] I hate stable, no fun, no cutting edge stuff [00:49] Heh, true, but I'm waiting for btrfs until I do my metal-install of MM... [00:50] Is it available in the installer though ? [00:50] Dunno, planned to test that, brb... [00:56] Nope, no btrfs in the current alternate installer at least, which i assume means it by no way has made it into ubiquity /me is a sad panda [00:58] okay seems like kernel and x packages are broken atm? [01:01] DrHalan: X is in a state of \o/ kinda/sorta [01:01] DrHalan: Held back, it's the great coming of the 1.8 afaik [01:01] yeah guessed so [01:01] h00k: mhm, I had fun with that yesterday [01:01] dependency hell \o/ [01:02] DrHalan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2010-June/011587.html [01:02] rww: yay! [01:02] I have 18 xserver packages being held atm [01:02] does teh new kernel package work for you guys? i get some errors on configureing [01:03] h00k: I have three or four (plus a bunch of unrelated KDE stuff), 'cause I remove the input and video ones I don't need [01:03] rww: I didn't :) I'm just going to let it do it's thing [01:03] hook, thanks. Target X for maveric is 1.9 right? so there will be another upgrade [01:04] DrHalan: I think so, yes [01:04] DrHalan: You can join ubuntu-devel-discuss to get warnings and stuff, too [01:04] and it's free! [01:04] lol [01:04] maybe i should. you can never have enough mailinglists [01:17] h00k: 31 xserver packages being held back. I win :P [01:19] IdleOne: :( pffffffffffff [01:23] no [01:23] i win [01:23] my X just froze [01:23] took it 30 sec to respond to REISUB [01:24] and from recovery, I fsck, updated files, and rebooted to new kernel [01:24] h00k: I confirm gwibber works :) [01:25] BUGabundo: cool [01:50] nite [02:18] what is the best way to update from lucid to maverick? [02:32] cozziemoto: Take relevant backups, make sure you have non-LTS upgrdes enabled, "do-release-upgrade -d", EXPECT it to break. With all the xorg flux atm it might be worthwhile waiting until it's settled.. === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [07:14] !info nodejs [07:14] nodejs (source: nodejs): Node.js event-based server-side javascript engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.97-1 (maverick), package size 345 kB, installed size 952 kB [07:14] excelent [07:17] !info gcc [07:17] gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.93ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.4-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB [08:23] when I click on about gnome it says I have lucid whe n I really have maverick installed [08:23] sorry, I ment to say , when I click on about ubuntu [08:26] and..? [08:27] it's not even alpha, don't expect every little detail to be up to date [08:28] I'm just reporting [08:47] is xserver stil held back [08:52] Anyone here play desktop defender on facebook? Its not loading for me for somereason right now. Stops after loading creeps [08:52] Just wondering if someone can confirm [09:31] hi guys [09:32] once i upgrade to alpha1 the ati driver gone and cant install any xserver-xorg packages ???!!! [09:47] !!! [11:27] Score is -3737 [11:28] meh :p [11:28] noty [11:28] Nice. [11:29] partly kde's fault [11:29] and I only use kile :( [11:29] used* [12:45] Packaging Training Session in 15m in #ubuntu-classroom: Operation Cleansweep and the Patch Reviewers Team! [13:38] !ping [13:38] pong === \vish is now known as vish [15:28] bleh :) still waiting for xorg updates [15:30] aptitude removed from -standard? Excuse me while I rage for an hour or two :/ === Whitorr is now known as Whitor [17:10] aptitude removed from standard due to the disk space? what's the replacer? [17:10] was 2.6.35 uploaded to maveric yet? [17:11] even this is not affecting me, it made me sad. [17:14] MaximLevitsky, i'm currently using 2.6.35-2-generic from default Ubuntu repo [17:14] ZykoticK9: thanks! [17:46] anyone have a decent sources.list for maverick? [17:52] coz_: Yea, hang on. [17:53] arand, cool === pgraner is now known as pgraner-afk [17:55] coz_: http://pastebin.com/e7ywe2mt using UK local mirrors, but it should be easily changeable in software sources once you've put it in sources.list (But do make a backup of your current one first of course before you replace with mine). [17:56] arand, thanks will play with this one :) [17:56] coz_: You are going to use it on mverick I hope? [17:57] arand, yeah unless I want to be real stupid :) [17:57] Just making sure you're aware ;) [17:57] arand, i could try it on warty warthog to see what happens lol [17:58] I'd like to see that :) [17:59] arand, I still have all the install disks here from day one... I should install them and relish in the progress :) [17:59] * nperry would very much like to play with xserver 1.8 [17:59] i dont think I could handle going back to warty though :) [18:00] hrm, I get a headache just by hardy.. [18:02] :) [18:06] there are a lot of xserver-xorg-* packages kept back [18:06] safe to full-upgrade? [18:06] hm no, want's to remove nvidia … :D [18:11] * wants [18:15] Hmmm mine only wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all :/ [18:36] nperry, I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade with no issues here [18:38] nperry, of course that doesnt mean much :) [18:42] Is anyone experiencing problems connecting to Facebook-chat with Empathy? It is working on my Lucid box(s) but Maverick shows "Network error" in red on GUI. Running "empathy" from CLI doesn't provide any output. [18:53] evening [18:57] hellow : [18:57] :) [19:02] Evening :) [19:04] hey nperry === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre [19:57] Hi === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_AFK [20:11] wow [20:11] that's a FAIL [20:12] laptop complains of low power [20:12] I plug it in [20:12] complains of critical [20:12] I noticed its not pluged to the socket [20:12] plug it in, and it still goes to standby after I press cancel in the popup [20:16] BUGabundo: can you pastebin your zsync script please [20:17] i lost it when my flash drive broke so i picked up another one and want to back that up [20:17] gnomefreak: $ pastebinit zsyncu http://paste.ubuntu.com/447909/ [20:17] I need to merge it with the old script [20:17] BUGabundo: thanks [20:17] to make it bash complaint [20:18] BUGabundo: I think that's because you maybe waited to long to click cancel? [20:18] just save your system [20:18] right now is just a copy paste helper [20:18] its not in bash? [20:18] nope [20:18] not that version [20:18] ah [20:18] Ian_corne: it was already charning, according to the power led [20:18] should NEVER have gone into stanby [20:19] BUGabundo: you dont have one for the alternate installer? [20:19] gnomefreak: shouldn't be to hard for a guy like you :) [20:19] gnomefreak: usually no. just livecd and dvd (which has both) [20:19] but just sed one of them [20:19] its not i hope should be cpy+pst change daily-live to alt. [20:24] not like it matters there is no daily image [20:25] alternate again === timboy_ is now known as timboy [20:32] gnomefreak: yes there is. for all of them, right now [20:32] BUGabundo: the alternate daily page has none, its been on and off since A1 [20:33] really? [20:33] * BUGabundo checks [20:33] empty http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [20:33] with maverick can I have two mouse cursors yet? [20:33] at least http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ its there [20:34] timboy: good question [20:34] let me know if you find out [20:34] try asking #ubuntu-x [20:34] or ping bjsnider or Sarvatt [20:35] BUGabundo: live has been there it never had this issue (during maverick) but alts seem problematic [20:35] live wasn't there the day I made the script :) [20:36] BUGabundo: out of the pat 2 week alt has been up maybe 3-4 days and 2 of tose was a 704mb build [20:37] * gnomefreak brb smoke [20:47] somebody knows a script to built daily kernel ? [20:50] do you guys know http://code.google.com/p/mail-trends/ ? [21:03] Hi all, I found that command "hdparm -B 128 /dev/sda" depend on gnome-power-manager. If gnome-power-manager is not running, "hdparm -B 128 /dev/sda" will not take effect. So if I close X and live only in pure-tty, I can't set 128 for /dev/sda. Is it a bug? [21:08] I think hdparm should get rid of gnome-power-manager, why hdparm can't work without gnome-power-manager ? It's strange and not convenient. [21:12] can anyone test mocp for me? [21:12] seems its broken [21:12] :( [21:15] fqh: for that i would file a bug, but i get the feeling it _has_ to depend on it. [21:15] hdparm has nothing to do with g-p-m... it talks directly to the drive [21:16] Yes, I think so too. But running "sudo hdparm -B 128 /dev/sda" under icewm or pure-tty , it can't take effect. "sudo hdparm -B /dev/sda" shows that the setting will return to 254 soon. [21:16] fhq: you mean hdparm -B /dev/sda shows 128, then if you repeat it a few times, it goes back to 254? [21:17] fhq: you must have something else running that is calling hdparm then, like laptp-mode-tools? [21:17] psusi: yes, [21:17] not should what i was thinking about. libc6 is only dep of hdparm [21:18] psusi: How to find if I running laptp-mode-tools? [21:18] fqh: see if you installed the package? [21:20] psusi: No, laptop-mode-tools is not installed, but pm-utils-powersave-policy is installed. [21:23] compiling own kernel atm [21:23] damn the current one has a dirty bug :( [21:23] bahhhh [21:24] bitten again by exaile :( [21:26] fqh: that could be it [21:30] psusi: Does pm-utils-powersave-policy push setting back to 254? Can we let it not do such thing? [21:31] fqh: not sure, but quite likely [21:33] BUGabundo: there is gwibber update out :p [21:33] there is? [21:33] Installed: 2.31.1~bzr743-0ubuntu1~daily1 [21:33] looks the same to me [21:33] Haal:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main gwibber 2.30.0.1-0ubuntu4 [320kB] [21:33] ah your using the real edge :P [21:33] yep [21:33] always [21:35] lets hope we can upgrade xorg soon :) [21:37] WOOT [21:37] kmail works fine again [22:21] root 4811 3.2 0.0 0 0 ? S 23:12 0:17 [flush-9:0] [22:21] what kind of process is this ? [22:21] kernel [22:21] writing to disk [22:22] hm k :) [22:29] is gnome-power-manager broken? [22:31] there they are [22:31] the xorg packages :P [22:31] really? [22:31] y [22:32] does teh new xorg finaly not create a dependency hell? [22:33] yes [22:33] don't force upgrades of X for a few days [22:33] didn't force [22:33] dependencies are ok now [22:33] then wait [22:33] nvidia is broken for now [22:38] Ok upgraded xorg packages [22:38] working smooth :) [22:41] they showed up in changes list but it still wants to remove 2 needed packages [22:42] gnomefreak: aptitude update [22:42] didn't need to remove anything here [22:42] BUGabundo: nvidia has been broken at least for me. im on upstream drivers [22:42] wfm [22:42] once i get this garbage cleaned up i will test it [22:43] BUGabundo: misee bug 591001 about flash upgrade [22:43] Launchpad bug 591001 in adobe-flashplugin (Ubuntu) "CVE-2010-1297: Security Advisory for Flash Player, Adobe Reader and Acrobat " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591001 [22:44] its been pushed it seems [22:45] I _think_ I'm using upstream .so [22:45] I have a feed monitoring for page changes [22:47] ok sasved you headaches [22:49] 3.1RC2 has been released [22:52] oops [22:52] bleh, want to play a wmv, and it fails :s [22:53] dupondje: aptitude isnt updateing it [22:53] gnomefreak: updating xorg ? [22:53] dupondje: its not [22:54] but i think i know what will :) [22:55] 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 39 not upgraded. using safe-upgrade [22:57] weird [22:57] it updated here :s [22:57] dupondje: yeah I had that, but bjsnider helped me work around it [22:57] you need to install one package [22:57] lib something 49 [22:58] even smart wants to remove 2 nvidia and the 2 X packages [22:58] libavutil49 [22:58] BUGabundo: for X? [22:58] for codecs [22:58] that is a player lib? [22:58] yeah [22:58] they updatedf that a while ago [22:58] its a mess in there [22:59] there is also a 51 IIRC [22:59] seems many players weren't rebuilt to use the new dep [22:59] or 52 [22:59] not here [22:59] !info libavutil51 [22:59] Package libavutil51 does not exist in maverick [22:59] libavutil50 was replacve with [23:00] libavutil50 - ffmpeg utility library [23:00] sorry replaced something [23:01] * BUGabundo starts totem in debug to see why music stops [23:01] * dupondje is going to bed [23:01] nite :) [23:02] nite [23:50] What? Aptitude no longer ships with standard? [23:51] WHAT? [23:51] really? [23:51] BUGabundo, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/2010-June/001202.html [23:52] $ apt-cache rdepends aptitude [23:52] its not in desktop ?! [23:55] it was in standard [23:55] they removed aptitude and tasksel from there though for some reason === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:56] linux for human beings doesn't think of sysadmins as human beings I guess [23:56] yofel, I read from a blog it was so they could free 13-14MB from the CD. [23:56] I guess that depends on the kind of sysadmins you hang out with [23:57] jcastro: true [23:57] Daekdroom: ah, might make sense, I'm still going to miss it though [23:57] sysadmins aren't human [23:57] Why not fully replace apt-get with aptitude? o.o [23:58] h00k: Now at 36 xserver packages held back :) [23:59] further along we get the more packages are held back [23:59] Daekdroom: most docs use apt-get and not aptitude [23:59] well, indeed..