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bobo123if I make a feature request (don't know how though) that the scanner-program instead of just saying boohoo should say "sorry your scanner needs a firmware-file, do you want me to search your windows partition for it, copy it and fix everything for you automaticly? ..so you think anyone would really code such a feature?00:02
bobo123*do00:03
modelf_alright, i just got my key00:10
ZachK_modelf_: cool00:10
modelf_i'm waiting for ubuntu to publish it so i can get the fingerprint00:10
ZachK_yup00:10
modelf_So this GPG key is like a numeric identity?00:10
ZachK_i believe so...never truly understood it myself00:13
starcraftmanmodelf_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto If ya still have questions, gpg keys are primarily a means of verify integrity of content and authenticity of source via trust.00:27
goodtime_lo all00:34
modelf_yikes00:36
modelf_okay00:36
modelf_did all of that00:36
modelf_registered my OpenPGP key and signed the ubuntu CoC00:37
modelf_https://launchpad.net/~christopherkmoore100:37
modelf_starcraftman: thanks00:38
starcraftmanmodelf_: any other questions?00:38
starcraftmanlo goodtime_00:38
modelf_i'm just getting started00:39
goodtime_hey hows it going00:39
modelf_ZachK_ was helping me00:39
goodtime_help this man00:39
modelf_i think i need to make a wiki now00:39
ZachK_modelf_: sorry i'm back now my man00:41
ZachK_hello goodtime_00:41
goodtime_hello00:41
goodtime_my box freeze's up when i youse my cam00:42
goodtime_and i have that xfce gui00:43
starcraftmangoodtime_: hmmm, you mean a webcam? Can you elaborate a bit more?00:43
goodtime_so now my net stat doesnt have a ip00:43
ZachK_Are you using Ubuntu with the XFCE environment or are you using Xubuntu00:43
ZachK_modelf_: join #ubuntu-beginners-wiki and #ubuntu-beginners-team00:44
goodtime_i have a gearhead cam00:44
goodtime_its got a mic and video as well00:44
goodtime_i realy freeze up when i start it thats all i know00:45
starcraftmangoodtime_: do anything to get that camera installed? Also, do you know what graphic card you have and if you enabled drivers? Drivers can be found System > Admin > Hardware.00:48
goodtime_aahhhh00:48
goodtime_so just about everything is a file00:49
starcraftmanhuh?00:49
goodtime_in linux00:49
starcraftmangoodtime_: oh yes, the config files are all text.00:49
goodtime_vrmind i was just spacein i guess00:49
starcraftmanNo registry here.00:49
goodtime_i dont think i did register here yet00:50
goodtime_i realy need to00:51
goodtime_forgot how to thoughlol00:51
starcraftmangoodtime_: well if you want, did you install driver?00:51
goodtime_yes00:51
goodtime_ill find it hang on00:51
starcraftmangoodtime_: I meant both for webcam and graphics card. Processing raw video can be heavy depending.00:52
goodtime_its installed just not ativated00:53
starcraftmangoodtime_: which? graphics? Why not active?00:54
goodtime_should i remove it00:54
goodtime_graffics00:54
goodtime_idk why lol00:55
starcraftmangoodtime_: ideally you should enable the graphics driver. What card do you have?00:55
goodtime_nivdia gforce00:55
starcraftmangoodtime_: hmmm, k, so just activate it in the hardware drivers menu I indicated.00:57
starcraftmanShouldn't have any trouble.00:57
goodtime_ty00:57
goodtime_ill brb01:02
stlsaintstarcraftman: hola senor01:03
starcraftmanhow goes stlsaint01:06
goodtime_graffics work fine now01:06
starcraftmangoodtime_: good, so no more problem with cam?01:10
starcraftmanbinary driver usually required for intensive video.01:10
goodtime_yeah i was just running a ironman xvid01:10
goodtime_poor quality01:11
goodtime_the file was thoe01:11
goodtime_a dvd prob plays good01:12
goodtime_nope neither dose the cd's01:14
goodtime_i need permissions i think01:14
goodtime_i can read but i cant wright01:15
blurbquestion, I'm using CD/DVD Creator and its asking me if I want to burn an .iso image or the contents.  What's the difference and which do I want if I want to burn a disk to give Ubuntu to a friend?01:16
starcraftmangoodtime_: what ya mean? I'm not following, the video sources are problem or the playback is poor?01:17
ZachK_blurb: if you want to burn an Ubuntu Live CD then you'd burn and ISO Image01:17
goodtime_bolth starcraftman01:18
goodtime_i cant play a dvd nor the cd01:18
goodtime_hahaha weird01:18
starcraftmangoodtime_: can't help with encoding, try to reconvert from dvd source. As to playback, to do dvd you need ubuntu-restricted-extras package.01:19
starcraftmanlikely same problem with audio.01:19
blurbYes I want to burn the liveCD.  So from the two choices you're saying I need to chose butn the iso instead of choosing the contents of the .iso?01:19
goodtime_no audio works fine01:19
starcraftmanblurb: on the brasero home page, click  Burn Image in left pane. That's the right one.01:19
starcraftmangoodtime_: install package anyway, open a terminal Applications > Accessories > Terminal and type:01:21
starcraftmansudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras01:21
goodtime_E: Couldn't find package package01:22
starcraftmangoodtime_: bah, ok, System > Administration > Software Sources.01:22
goodtime_ok01:23
starcraftmanEnsure communiy maintained and software restricted enabled.01:23
blurbstarcraftman: I just want to make sure -- since I'm not using brasero, but the other one that comes w/ the system, and what it says exactly is "Burn as file", or "Burn Contents"01:23
starcraftmanClose and click reload, then retry command.01:23
goodtime_i dont understand that01:24
goodtime_hmm01:25
starcraftmanblurb: you want to burn contents, burning a file would mean just burning the archive.01:25
blurbstarcraftman: Okay.  So that I understand better, when would you want to burn the archive?01:26
goodtime_what do i need from my softwear sourse01:26
starcraftmanblurb: when you want to simply transport the archive, a ISO is a container like a zip. If you burned a zip, you just burn a container. If you burn the iso your burning the contents of the archive, like you extracted zip and burned its contents.01:27
starcraftmangoodtime_: check on first tab community maintainsed software, then close and reload.01:27
goodtime_ok01:28
blurbstarcraftman:  ZachK_: Thankyou both!01:28
ZachK_yup01:29
goodtime_i cant find it hang on lol01:30
starcraftmangoodtime_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50002001:32
starcraftmanSee installing with gui section. I gotta run a bit.01:32
goodtime_#deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.04 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release amd64 (20100429)]/ lucid main restricted01:40
goodtime_# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to01:40
goodtime_# newer versions of the distribution.01:40
Chesamostarcraftman, does ubot have a pastebin command?01:41
paultag!pastebin | Chesamo01:41
ubot2Chesamo: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:41
ChesamoAh cool.01:41
blurbquestion: If I burn an .iso LiveCD to a disk, and I still have some room on the disk (and I clicked the option to leave space open) is there a way I can put more files on there that can be accessed by the liveCD.  Like new user guides and other documentation for new Ubuntuans?02:02
goodtime_if the disk finalizes02:03
goodtime_you cant02:03
blurbI made sure not to finalize it.02:03
goodtime_should work then02:04
stlsaintblurb: your better off making a persistent usb install02:04
blurbOkay, I know how to make a persistent usb install, but I'm wondering if I can do something similar (but w/o persistence obviously) on a CD.02:05
blurbMainly I want to include some new user stuff that when someone is trying out a liveCD they can get to it.02:06
Chesamoblurb: Something easier would be to open the ISO in somehing like archive manager or winRAR and add files to the ISO02:10
blurbChesamo: Ah, that's an interesting idea.02:11
Chesamoblurb: It's the best way to do it, since generally ISO burning finalizes02:13
ZachK_hello |friTTe|02:17
nUboon2Ageblurb: Here's something you might find useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization02:17
|friTTe|ZachK_:  hi02:18
stlsainthttp://techbuket.net/lunix-183.html02:24
blurbThanks stlsaint: Chesamo: and nUboon2Age: I'll experiment with those ideas.  Thanks!02:29
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loki20Hey all got this after an update  ----"Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode.04:13
loki20The following error was encountered. You may need to upgrade your configuration to solve this.04:13
loki20(EE)PSB(O): The stolen base is ox3f800000.04:13
loki20(EE)PSB(O): screnIndex is 0; fbPhys is: 0x3f800000; fbsize is: 0x007df00004:13
loki20(EE)PSB(O): First SDVO output reported failure to sync or output is not trainded!!!04:13
loki20(EE)[drm] drm Open failed.04:13
loki20(EE)PSB(O): [dri] DRScreenInit failed.04:13
loki20Disabling DRI.04:13
loki20(EE)[drm] Could not uninstall irq handler04:13
loki20(EE)PSB(O): This driver currently needs DRM to operate" How do I fix?04:13
Chesamo!pastebin |loki04:14
ubot2loki: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:14
loki20ok sorry04:14
Chesamoloki: Have you tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?04:15
Chesamoer, rather04:15
Chesamoloki: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg04:16
loki20I'll try that....thanks04:17
loki20Chesamo: My Netbook tells me that xserver-org is not installed04:20
Chesamoloki20: try just sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg04:21
loki20Chesamo: When I try sudo dpkg-freconfigur -phigh xorg my terminal just resets to david@Dell-Mini10:~$04:24
Chesamoloki20: Since it didn't give you an error that means the command went though and worked.04:25
Chesamoloki20: Are you using Ubuntu Netbook Remix?04:26
loki20yes04:26
loki20I'll try and restart and let you know how it goes.04:27
loki20Chesamo: Still the same error. When I originally set the machine up I used a w-get command to enable the 3d graphics. I am trying to find that now04:29
Chesamoloki20: wget? You shouldn't have needed to do that.04:32
duanedesignloki20: what do you get from the command:   sudo jockey-text -e xorg --list04:33
loki20duanedesign: kmod:wl - Broadcom STA wireless driver (Proprietary, Enabled, In use)04:36
loki20Chesamo: I got the wget command from an Ubuntu forum.04:37
Chesamoloki20: what drivers was it for?04:38
loki20I have the Poulsbo GMA 500 graphics card04:38
duanedesignhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/04:42
duanedesignthis is interesting^^04:42
duanedesignseems the proprietary drivers for the GMA500 graphics core are poorly supported.04:45
loki20duanedesign: The drivers are not supported well. I did have it working great until I did an update. My kernel now is 2.6.31-32 generic04:47
loki20I am trying to restart in the earlier kernel....and %$#@$$## not dice. still same error.04:48
loki20another question. I have the mini 10 in a dual boot state with Windows xp (to use the the GPS) If I upgrade to the 10.04 will it hose my dual boot?04:50
duanedesignloki20: http://www.internetling.com/2010/05/12/howto-intel-gma-500-poulsbo-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/04:51
duanedesignis the forum thread mentioned there the one you used04:52
loki20no i used tthe one for Karmic04:52
loki20I'll look this over   http://www.internetling.com/2010/05/12/howto-intel-gma-500-poulsbo-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/04:56
duanedesignloki20: also the thread mentiones the IRC channel ##gma50004:57
loki20cool thanks04:57
psudheerahi.. i'm sudheera new to linux and still trying to learn about it.  ok.here's the problem.i'm currently using ubuntu 9.10 carmic and need to upgrade to 10.04 . I have downloaded the iso and burned into a cd and the cd working perfectly (i have installed it my friend's computer ).when i'm trying to upgrade carmic, i insert the cd and nothing appeared. and i hit alt+f2 and enter gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"then appear a06:56
psudheerahi.. i'm sudheera new to linux and still trying to learn about it.  ok.here's the problem.i'm currently using ubuntu 9.10 carmic and need to upgrade to 10.04 . I have downloaded the iso and burned into a cd and the cd working perfectly (i have installed it my friend's computer ).when i'm trying to upgrade carmic, i insert the cd and nothing appeared. and i hit alt+f2 and enter gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"then appear a07:01
holsteinpsudheera: can you just do it over the internet?07:07
holsteinis that an issue?07:07
holsteinif you run the 'update-manager'07:07
holsteinyou should be promted to 'upgrade'07:07
holsteinthere are other options, thats just the easy way07:08
holsteinhmmm07:08
shahanhow can I add it to my another panel?     http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/shahan011/panel.png10:21
shahanthat is... if I delete it.. How can I get it back again?10:21
hobgoblinI think you are pointing at the windows list - right click - add to panel - windows list10:22
hobgoblinbut I can't be sure as that is a small screenshot :)10:22
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shahanI lost my network indicator icon from top panel... How can I get it back?10:37
geirhaadd to panel -> notification area10:38
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insanity99hey guys12:01
insanity99how do i get my ubuntu to be like it was the day i installed it?12:01
lukjadinsanity99 Do you want to save anything?12:04
lukjadDocuments, settings, favourates, internet history?12:04
insanity99well i would like to keep my '/home' partition if possible12:05
lukjadDo you want the stuff you installed left installed but acting as if they were never used?12:05
lukjadinsanity99 See, if you want to remove programs you installed, you can use computer janitor to remove them12:05
insanity99yes if possible, my system seems completly messed up and no one can seem to help me12:06
lukjadinsanity99 Well, reinstalling is always an option. Also, System -> Administration -> Computer Janitor is where you find computer janitor12:07
lukjadBe careful in computer janitor12:08
insanity99will that affect fglrx? thats the cause of all my problems i think12:08
lukjadIt removes programs and erases settings12:08
lukjadinsanity99 It may do that, take a peak in it12:08
insanity99ok12:09
lukjadPeek12:09
phillwelse, you can hive off your /home and re-install. having a seperate /home is handy12:09
lukjadWhat ever12:09
lukjadphillw +112:09
phillwhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome12:09
insanity99ok anyone know why i cant uninstall fglrx? i get this error12:11
insanity99E: fglrx: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 212:11
insanity99http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/updated-drivers-everything-gone-wrong-please-help-813109/ this is my thread on the problem, if you want to get up-to date on whats going on12:12
walkkenn_Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 10.4 netbook on my acer aspire 3 times.  During start up I always get (Low Disk Space  This computer has only 102MB disk space remaining) even though I have set aside 100GB for Ubuntu.  It just doesn't recognize it.  How do I fix this?12:12
insanity99using wubi?12:12
insanity99computer janitor cant help me either lol, installArchives() failed12:13
duanedesignwalkkenn_: can you pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) the results of the Terminal command: df12:17
walkkenn_done12:22
duanedesigncan you post the address you get after you click paste12:23
duanedesignit will be something like paste.ubuntu.com/fwi4r12:23
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walkkenn_http://paste.ubuntu.com/447722/12:28
walkkenn_that it?12:28
duanedesignwalkkenn_: yep12:29
insanity99anyone think they know what my problem is?12:31
insanity99hopeing not to have to reinstall my OS12:32
Guest32582hello i had a bad upgrade 9.04 to 9.1012:33
Guest32582i have no conection with internet on that laptop12:34
Guest32582the connection failes due to the bad upgrade12:35
Guest32582no recovery modes are working12:35
Guest32582I can get kdm starting up12:35
Guest32582but no touchpad or internet12:36
greenjonwired or wireless?12:36
Guest32582neither12:37
Guest32582neither is working12:37
greenjonouch12:38
duanedesignwalkkenn_: System > Administration > Gparted should show you your partition table.12:38
greenjoni'm not sure then :/12:38
duanedesignwalkkenn_: not sure why it does not have the space you think it does. Is their an 'unallocated' space shown by gparted.12:39
walkkenn_can't find gparted12:40
duanedesignwalkkenn_: ok12:40
duanedesignwalkkenn_: sudo apt-get install gparted12:40
Guest32582can i install from live12:44
Guest32582cd12:44
Guest3258210.04 over a bad upgrade 9.10?12:44
walkkenn_Some unallocated, but lots of unknown12:46
duanedesignGuest32582: if you do an install instead of an upgrade you will need to back up your data12:46
Guest32582ok is it lost for sure12:47
duanedesignGuest32582: do you get an error when trying to boot into recovery mode?12:47
walkkenn_the unknown is from the original 1st install attempt, there shouldn't be anything on it.  How do I put it together with the other?12:47
Guest32582I dont now how to irc: but no recovery modes are working12:48
duanedesignwalkkenn_: ok you will need to boot up with a liveCD to change the partitions.12:49
walkkenn_no CD available, used the USB device12:49
Guest32582all recovery modes are ending on the same spot12:49
phillwwalkkenn the usb will be fine12:50
Guest32582but manually i can start up wit sudo kdm12:50
walkkenn_OK, what do I do?12:50
phillwwalkkenn use the gparted to make the 'unknown' area into ext412:51
duanedesignGuest32582: where do Recovery Mode end?12:51
phillwwalkkenn you can then 'grow' the partition into the newly made area.12:52
Guest32582lines in black screen with text as starting ... done; last line is starting battery state... done12:52
walkkenn_is it pretty intuitive for a nob?12:53
insanity99quick question, can transmission bittorrent minimise to system tray?12:53
hobgoblininsanity99: yes12:54
insanity99how?12:54
hobgoblinI just close it and it minimises - hang on I'll check the prefs12:55
duanedesignwalkkenn_: it is not bad. You can r-click on the partitions and choose delete and resize/move, etc12:55
duanedesignGuest32582: are you able to run commands?12:56
Guest32582yes12:56
hobgoblininsanity99: prefs - Desktop - show in notification area12:56
walkkenn_Cool, thanks12:56
phillwwalkkenn yes, it's pretty str8 forward12:56
insanity99ah thanks12:57
hobgoblininsanity99: consequently you need to Ctrl+Q to quit - or use the menu  - the red x only takes it to the not area12:58
insanity99ok thanks12:59
insanity99neil@neil-desktop:/media/01CB02B43FF794B0_/programming/python$ function_test.py12:59
insanity99function_test.py: command not found12:59
insanity99anyone know why i cant open it?12:59
insanity99did i type the wrong command?13:00
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hobgoblinno good asking me - it's all voodoo :) perhasp you need to   python function_test.py13:01
hobgoblinpeople are quick to wander off today :)13:02
jace_dGreetings, I Need Help Getting A Nokia 6288 to sync with pc(10.04)13:04
Guest32582duanedesign ?13:05
jace_dSorryWha?13:05
insanity99if anyone can just have a look at my thread and see if they can help me with it i would be http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/updated-drivers-everything-gone-wrong-please-help-813109/13:11
insanity99anyone?13:23
hobgoblinI was looking at that one earlier today13:24
insanity99it's causing me so much grief13:24
hobgoblindo you have a xorg.conf file?  ls ls /etc/X11/xorg*13:25
hobgoblinwhoops - only one ls there13:25
hobgoblincan you run that in a terminal13:27
insanity99yes, want me to pastebin it?13:27
hobgoblinyes please13:27
insanity99http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447740/13:28
hobgoblininsanity99: so what si the real issue here - that compiz is causing problems - or that the graphics are fubar?13:30
insanity99not sure do be honest, i would guess its the graphics since all the problems i have uninstalling it13:31
Guest32582duanedesign?13:31
hobgoblininsanity99: did you actually manage to reinstall it - if not what were the errors - if you remember that is13:33
hobgoblinif not you could try to remove xorg reboot and see what jockey says then13:34
hobgoblininsanity99: it's a bit hard to tell what's gone on from the thread13:36
insanity99when i try to remove the driver i get error E: fglrx: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 213:37
duanedesignGuest32582: sorry i got caslled away13:37
hobgoblininsanity99: you get the same thing if you try and install I guess then13:38
duanedesignGuest32582: i would try booting into recovery and running the command: sudo dpkg --configure -a13:39
insanity99i have tried recovery mode then selecting repair broken packages13:39
insanity99yeah i get the same error13:41
Guest32582stopped cause too many faults/mistakes13:41
insanity99when trying to install it's slightly differnt, 'exit status 1' rather than 213:42
hobgoblininsanity99: havea go at this http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9279314&postcount=3213:45
duanedesignGuest32582: what about the commmand:  sudo apt-get -f install13:46
insanity99<hobgoblin> i will try that now13:47
Guest32582i have no connection any more13:48
insanity99what do i do? type the whole command in terminal?13:49
hobgoblininsanity99: each line is seperate  - I'd copy and paste - highlight with mouse then middle click in the terminal13:50
insanity99ok13:50
insanity99heres what happend http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447757/ think it worked? do i need to restart before i try jocky again?13:53
hobgoblinwait a moment please13:53
insanity99ok13:53
hobgoblinexit unless you already have13:54
insanity99yeah i did13:54
hobgoblinthen sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.100613:54
insanity99ok done13:55
hobgoblinthen try a reboot and look in jockey again13:55
insanity99ok be back in a minute, hope this works13:55
insanity99thanks for the help :)13:55
duanedesignGuest32582: sounds like you have a broken package that prevented the upgrade13:56
duanedesignGuest32582: here is a blog post describing one way to fix broken packages http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/apt-get-how-to-fix-very-broken-packages/13:58
Guest32582i wll look at it first i make coffee, busy with making backups now it's still possible13:59
sogeking99this is instanity99, wow it booted in 1680x1050 rather than low graphics mode, things are looking good so far14:00
sogeking99jocky installed drivers! thank you so much i really thought i was going to have to reinstall my OS14:00
hobgoblinwelcome - please make sure you go back to linuxquestions and update the thread - I will check ;)14:02
hobgoblinnothing worse than being left in the dark14:02
sogeking99yeah i am now :) i will also post the link with the fix, incase anyone else has the issue they can search the forum14:03
hobgoblinthat or just paste in what you did14:03
sogeking99yeah thats a better idea14:03
hobgoblinglad I could help - not often I bother with ATi issues - never used them myslef14:03
hobgoblinthough I should post there and get at least one post to my name lol14:04
sogeking99i will be sticking with jocky installs now, no more from the site14:04
sogeking99lol14:04
hobgoblinsogeking99: I have only once in 3 years needed to not use the hardware drivers thing14:05
sogeking99yeah14:05
sogeking99i updated the thread14:07
sogeking99also youtube videos are working again, however still with awful screen tearing :( lol i just accept there is currently no fix for that14:08
sogeking99compiz settings manager is still not orking though, and cant enable visual effects either14:10
sogeking99i'm not to concerned about this issue though, a fix would be nice though14:13
walkkenn_ I still have the problem I had earlier.  (Low Disk Space 42mb)  Tried to work with Gparted, but didn't seem to help.  I think I'm on the right track, but, maybe I don't know exactly what to do.  I can see I'm moving things around, but, It's not fixing the problem  http://paste.ubuntu.com/447762/   I think I'm on the right track  Additional info  http://paste.ubuntu.com/447766/14:16
cprofitthey guys -- can anyone tell me where the mount point is for windows shares mounted using 'connect to server' from the 'places' menu?14:16
hobgoblinwalkkenn_: can you run this and pastebin it for me please   sudo fdisk -l14:30
hobgoblincprofitt: I would have thought it was in /media14:30
walkkenn_check14:31
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thewrathhey all14:32
thewrathanyone here?14:32
hobgoblinno-=one thewrath14:33
thewrathlol14:33
walkkenn_http://paste.ubuntu.com/447776/  Like I said - it is the 3rd attempt at installation14:33
thewrathi am trying to link to a shared .bashrc file and it is on another server that i am on14:34
thewrathis there a way to link it14:34
thewrathlink to it14:34
hobgoblinwalkkenn_: much as I suspected :) are you booted into your latest install the moment - that is where you got the df output from14:34
walkkenn_what's the best ubuntu 10.4 netbook book?14:34
hobgoblinwalkkenn_: I have no idea - I run old desktops as I am too tight to spend money14:35
leoquantthewrath, i can't help with that question, maybe someone else14:35
hobgoblinthewrath: same here - sorry :( wasn't ignoring you ... deliberately that is14:36
thewrathno that is okay14:36
leoquantthewrath, just stay around there are several members into serverlike things14:37
thewrathyera14:37
leoquantthere=here14:37
thewrathi was/am a member here14:37
hobgoblinwalkkenn_: if you want me to go through the repartitioning with you - then we can do that - but I need to know the answer to the last question14:37
thewrathi used to have voice in here i am nto sure what happened with that14:37
hobgoblinthewrath: you got a sore throat and lost it :D14:38
leoquant:P14:38
hobgoblinI lost my voice too ...14:38
leoquanthahaha14:38
thewrathyea work has been killerthe past couple of months14:38
leoquantits magic this channel14:38
thewrathlol14:38
hobgoblinthough I just left so ...14:39
walkkenn_yes, I am booted into the latest install (sorry coffee refill time)14:43
walkkenn_i'm back with you14:43
walkkenn_yes I am booted from my latest install - that is where I got the df output from (missed the question)14:47
duanedesignhello walkkenn_14:51
walkkenn_Yes i'm here14:51
walkkenn_Is there another question?14:53
duanedesignwalkkenn_: you were not able to delete any of the extra directories?14:53
duanedesignwalkkenn_: only need one swap and one Linux partition14:54
walkkenn_I don't know what to delete14:54
walkkenn_I am afraid to delete the wrong thing14:54
cprofitthobgoblin: I would have thought Media as well14:54
duanedesignwalkkenn_: yeah. We need to figure out which is from the latest install14:54
cprofittbut alas it was not...14:54
hobgoblinduanedesign: got that now :)14:55
walkkenn_The one with the highest number?14:55
hobgoblinwalkkenn_: reboot with the livecd and we can do it now if you want14:55
walkkenn_OK, reboot now?14:55
duanedesignwalkkenn_: yea/814:56
duanedesignoops14:56
hobgoblinwalkkenn_: I just need to check that you were booted into this one14:56
hobgoblinwhen you ran df - if that is the case then reboot :)14:56
hobgoblinduanedesign: not sure which is going to be quickest - moving partitions or reinstall if it's not a hassle to do the latter14:59
hobgoblinI suspect the latter ;)15:00
duanedesignhobgoblin: yeah. I guess whether or not you have to move the partition with all the data before resizing..15:04
hobgoblinI think you do - it's at the end ...15:05
hobgoblinwe shall see :)15:05
Guest32582duanedesign15:06
Guest32582looks like kdebase runtime is in correct15:07
Guest32582but without any connection ....15:07
walkkennHi, I am up again using my USB boot15:07
hobgoblinwalkkenn: welcome back - first question - is there anything in the install you need to keep ?15:08
walkkennno15:08
walkkenndoes that mean when this is over we are going to reinstall 10.415:09
duanedesignGuest32582: if you can get rid of the package15:09
hobgoblinok - so if it is looking like the resizing is going to take hours do you want to reinstall - but this time use the disk properly15:09
Guest32582how15:09
duanedesignGuest32582: hmmm, but without an internet connection I am not sure how to finish the upgraade15:09
walkkennI can reinstall if that's easier15:09
hobgoblinwalkkenn: ok then - let's get on with it then - go to sys -admin - partition editor15:10
cprofittduanedesign: do you have any idea where a 'connect to server' connection is mounted?15:11
walkkenndon't see partition editor15:11
hobgoblingparted15:12
hobgoblinoh hang on - what is this - is it a normal ubuntu iso or a netbook thing?15:13
walkkennopened gparted15:13
walkkennNetbook 10.415:13
hobgoblinaah ok - now you should see some padlocks in the window15:13
walkkennyes15:13
hobgoblinone of the swap partitions should have one - right click that partition and swapoff15:13
walkkennI have three swap partitions15:14
walkkennwhich one15:14
hobgoblinrefresh and there should be none - however if all of the swaps have padlocks do the same15:14
hobgoblinuntil there are no padlocks we'll ot be able to work on the partitions15:14
walkkenndone15:15
hobgoblinok - no padlock symbols at all anywhere :)15:16
walkkennall gone15:16
hobgoblinall of the linux partitions are inside the extended partition15:17
walkkennyes15:17
hobgoblinand you have no live data at all in any of the installs you've made - just the newest one and it's swap15:18
walkkennyou mean linux-swap?15:18
hobgoblinyes15:18
walkkenndone15:19
hobgoblinif that is the case you can delete sda5 to sda9 - leaving sda10 and sda1115:19
duanedesigncprofitt: ~/.gvfs  ?15:19
walkkennnow I have 5,6,7,8,9, all in 315:22
hobgoblinright click each and select delete15:24
walkkennexcept for 3?15:25
hobgoblinthen when you've done that click apply - there is no going back from that15:25
hobgoblinnope not sda3 you need that one15:25
walkkenndone15:27
hobgoblinok - so now you have unallocated space - sda10 - sda11 inside sda3 - is that correct?15:28
hobgoblinif not - screenshot from apps - accessories - paste it to imgur.com or some image host15:29
walkkennno, as I deleted the lower numbers the other partitions dropped down to lower numbers.  Now all I have is 95gb unallocated in sda315:30
hobgoblinwhat happened to sda10 and sda11 then?15:30
hobgoblindid you delete those 2 as well ?15:31
walkkennwhen I deleted 5 and 9 they changed designation to 8 and 9.  The short answer is yes15:31
hobgoblin...15:32
hobgoblinok - so I'm glad you didn't have anything you needed to keep then15:32
walkkennright15:32
hobgoblinmore questions - do you want to hibernate/suspend ? how much RAM do you have?15:33
walkkennis there a place I can look that up15:33
hobgoblinin terminal -  apps - accessories            free -m15:34
hobgoblinwalkkenn: no need to pastebin that - just need the one number  in Mem: under total15:37
walkkenntotal 990 used 914 free 7615:37
hobgoblink15:37
ZachK_at it again eh hobgoblin?15:38
hobgoblinin gparted - right click inside the unallocated space - create new partition - type linux-swap - make the size about 1500Mb15:38
hobgoblinwalkkenn: ^^ then right click again and create new partition - ext415:39
hobgoblinZachK_: what - helping in someone else's channel :D15:39
ZachK_hobgoblin: lol15:39
ZachK_hobgoblin: you can always come back to the dark side buddy15:39
hobgoblindid someone say something ?15:40
ZachK_and hiyas Silver_Fox_15:40
hobgoblin;)15:40
ZachK_hobgoblin: i'm screwin with ya's15:40
cprofittguys -- I found the folder15:40
ZachK_go cprofitt go cprofitt15:40
hobgoblincprofitt: where is it then?15:40
cprofittwhen you use 'connect to server' it mounts in in ~/.gvfs15:40
hobgoblinaaah15:41
Silver_Fox_ I was wondering about that when you were looking earlier cprofitt15:41
walkkennhow much space before and after.  0 before and the remaining unallocated after?15:43
cprofittYou can also list your gvfs mounts with gvfs-mount -l15:43
hobgoblinwalkkenn: you there?15:43
walkkennyes, I asked 0 space before and the remaining allocated after?15:44
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walkkennthe free space preceding the partition and the free space after; 0 before and 96gb after?15:46
walkkennhobgoblin - still there what is the size of the 2nd partition and how much space preceding15:52
hobgoblinsorry - was afk15:53
walkkennno sweat15:53
hobgoblinI don;t knwo how big the unallocated space is :)15:53
walkkennwhat is a good size for the free space preceding and following a partition?15:54
walkkennhow big should I make the 2nd partion?15:54
hobgoblinhang on15:54
walkkennOK, so the 2nd partition should be the remaining unallocated space?15:55
walkkennabout 96gb15:55
hobgoblinwalkkenn: you need at least 2 - one swap and one ext415:57
hobgoblinI have no idea how big the unallocted space is so I have no idea big the first one is that leaves 96Gb :)15:57
walkkennShould the swap also be ext 4?15:58
hobgoblinnope - linux-swap as file type16:00
hobgoblinwalkkenn: I worked it out - you have approx 100Gb to play with - what have you done so far?16:01
collinpTechnically, you don't *need* swap, but unless you have, like, 12GB RAM, it's probably a good idea to have it.16:02
hobgoblintechnically you might not16:02
hobgoblinthough I wonder how you;d hibernate without it16:03
Silver_Fox_I think swap is important16:06
Silver_Fox_Though mine is far to large16:06
hobgoblinlol16:06
Silver_Fox_Well you know how big it is right hobgoblin  ?16:07
phillwi guess it depends if you're editing an image file of 2GB.. I curse my brothers'16:08
phillwdigital camera !!16:08
walkkennOK, system froze up16:09
Silver_Fox_Well my swap is 11.6GB16:09
Silver_Fox_Hehe16:09
phillwlol - only has a 80GB hard drive :-(16:10
walkkennhobgoblin, you there?16:12
phillwwalkkenn: how do you have your partitions now?16:13
hobgoblinsort of16:14
hobgoblingone again16:15
phillwindeed16:15
phillwwb walkkenn16:23
walkkennhobgoblin you there?16:23
phillwhe's around16:23
walkkennanyway my system froze up and I had to reboot and redownload xchat16:24
hobgoblinyea I'm here16:24
phillwokay, are you on usb boot now?16:24
walkkennI am in usb boot and with gpart I am about to create the swap partition and the ext4 partition16:25
hobgoblinwalkkenn: ok - changed plan slightly aas you have afair old amount of room16:25
walkkennhow much space should I leave between the partitions16:26
hobgoblindo a swap - 1.5Gb then do 2 seperate ext4 partitions - one of 10Gb the other whatever is remaining16:26
hobgoblinmake them concurrent - no space between - or at least I never do16:27
walkkenngot it16:27
walkkennstand by16:27
hobgoblinso you will have swap followed by 2 other partitions16:28
hobgoblinwalkkenn: once it has done that - quit gparted and start the installer - go through until you reach the partitioning section and shout16:31
walkkenngot it16:31
walkkennI'm there16:33
hobgoblinin the installer?16:34
hobgoblinok - choose manual partitioning16:34
hobgoblinyou'll get a list of partitions16:35
walkkenndone16:35
hobgoblinpick the 10Gb one - then close to the bottom there's an edit button16:35
walkkennok16:36
hobgoblinfrom the use as box - ext 4 and from the mountpoint box - pick /16:36
hobgoblinthen save or close that one - back at the partition list - pick the largest ext4 partition - edit - uses as ext4 and mountpoint of /home16:37
walkkenndone16:39
walkkennforward?16:39
hobgoblinif both partitions have been set up then yes16:40
walkkennOK16:40
hobgoblinnow if you need to reinstall your /home partition will be safe as long as you don't format it - just use manual option16:41
walkkennOK thanks, I appreciate the help.  Anything else I should know?16:42
hobgoblinnope that's it16:43
walkkennthanks16:43
hobgoblinwelcome16:43
thewrathjrhey all it is the wrath17:05
thewrathjrexit17:05
thewrathhi17:06
hobgoblinbooooo hissssss17:06
hobgoblin:)17:06
thewrathyea still trying to research about that issue17:10
thewrathi was talking abotu earlier hobgoblin17:10
hobgoblinI've looked a few  times - you;ve not got anywhere then  guess17:10
thewrathnot thus far17:11
hobgoblin:(17:12
mohi2911hey all17:22
ChesamoMorning mohi291117:23
Silver_Fox_Hello17:23
mohi2911hi Chesamo and Silver_Fox_ =]17:25
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cprofittexit17:54
thewrathhey cprofit17:55
thewrathexit19:12
thewrathexit19:12
Chesamohehehe19:12
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ChesamoPolarBearJohn20:02
ChesamoYou are in the same room as me on another server and it's freaking me out20:02
glorious_I'm trying to connect from tsclient on 10.04 to a Vista machine. I get error "Autoselected keyboard map en-us, ERROR: [other computer's IP address] unable to connect.  Can anyone help?20:05
Chesamoglorious_: is a firewall running on the server machine?20:07
PolarBearJohnum ok20:10
ChesamoPolarbearJohn: I'm Void in #Concession on FurNet :P20:11
PolarBearJohnOH lol ok20:11
ChesamoPolarBearJohn: FREAKIN ME OUT MAN20:11
PolarBearJohnOMG!!20:12
PolarBearJohnscary20:12
Evil_Silver_Fox_More than me >:)20:12
ChesamoI'll move this conversation over there.20:12
glorious_Chesamo: no I made sure.20:14
Chesamoglorious_: hm... Windows firewall too?20:15
glorious_vista is the server and I made sure the windows firewall was turned off20:16
Chesamoglorious_: I'm finding some things that tsclient isn't compatible with the authentication method used in Vista. Have you tried rdesktop?20:17
glorious_Chesamo: no I haven't tried that.  Does it have a gui?20:18
Chesamoglorious_: It has a frontend called "grdesktop", which is available in the Universe repos20:19
glorious_good that helps.  To begin is there a way I can confirm that my Ubuntu is 'seeing' the Vista machine?20:20
Chesamoglorious_: You can ping it ping -c 4 <ip address>20:21
glorious_Chesamo: (trying this out)20:23
glorious_Chesamo: hmmm... looks like something else is wrong.  ping is not reaching it.  I'll go back to see if it is on the same network and all and come back later.  Thanks for your help!20:26
Chesamoglorious_: Oh, haha. Good luck!20:26
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AJH101H I installed Lucid via Wubi on a newish laptop. All seemed to be running fine but I am now presented at startup with the Wallpaper and a white terminal screen - any ideas?21:06
ChesamoAJH101: Sounds like xterm. Is this after you log in?21:08
AJH101yes - When I try startx it is not authorised - sudo startx: it is suggested I delete /tmp/.X0-lock  - help!21:09
ChesamoAJH101: Do you enter a password to log in, or does it log you un automatically?21:09
Chesamoin*21:09
AJH101auto login after 3 seconds - i have had probs with the pw previously at this point21:10
AJH101any ideas?21:11
ChesamoAJH101: Turn off the autologin, then do this:21:11
ChesamoAJH101: At the bottom of the login screen, there should be a pulldown list called "Sessions". It might have "GNOME failsafe" set as the default/. Change that to GNOME.21:12
AJH101but i have had probs with pw loops before! :-(21:12
AJH101ok21:12
ChesamoAJH101: This is the fastest and easiest way to fix this problem. You're going into failsafe GNOME mode.21:12
AJH101recovery mode?!21:13
ChesamoAJH101: No. Failsafe GNOME. It's a session.21:13
AJH101only gave myself 3 seconds before auto login - can i do this via the terminal screen? (sorry)21:15
AJH101or live cd?21:16
ChesamoAJH101: Run sudo gdmsetup21:16
ChesamoAJH101: Not that I'm aware of21:17
AJH101sorry baby21:17
AJH101brb21:17
ChesamoAJH101: Oh, one of the options is for session.21:17
Chesamo...."baby".....?21:17
goodtime_anybody here21:20
Chesamogoodtime_: yes21:20
goodtime_fhey21:20
goodtime_hey*21:20
goodtime_wouldnt know how to kill firefox with a command would you Chesamo21:21
Chesamogoodtime_ killall firefox21:21
goodtime_ok21:21
goodtime_firefox: no process found21:22
goodtime_ahhh21:22
Chesamogoodtime_: a different method is a little more complcated, but it works21:22
goodtime_ok21:22
Chesamogoodtime_: ps -ef |grep firefox21:22
goodtime_ok21:23
Chesamogoodtime_, then take the process ID of firefox, copy it, and paste it into the command: kill -9 <PROCID>21:23
goodtime_hmmm21:23
Chesamogoodtime: the process ID is the first number you see21:23
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goodtime_ 5653  5428????21:25
Chesamogoodtime_: The first one on the line containing the firefox command. the process IDs won't stay the same each time21:26
goodtime_idk what im doing21:28
goodtime_lol21:28
Chesamogoodtime_: Can you use pastebin right now?21:29
goodtime_no21:29
Chesamogoodtime_: I'm going to ask you to paste the output of ps -ef |grep firefox, even though it's more than one line. Okay?21:30
goodtime_i reinstalled ubuntu because its better that all these other gui ive been useing so many stupid guis21:31
goodtime_so i have to start over again21:31
goodtime_ok ill paste21:31
goodtime_ ps -ef |grep firefox21:32
goodtime_root      5685  5660  0 16:31 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto firefox21:32
Chesamo....root?21:32
goodtime_is that wrong21:32
ChesamoAre you logged in as root, or did you sudo ps?21:32
goodtime_sudo bash21:32
Chesamogoodtime_: It'd be easier if you weren't root.21:33
goodtime_oic ok21:33
goodtime_ killall firefox21:34
goodtime_firefox: no process found21:34
goodtime_ 5690  5410  0 16:34 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto firefox21:34
Chesamogoodtime_: According to that, you don't have firefox running.21:35
goodtime_no i dont21:35
Chesamoum21:35
Chesamothat21:35
Chesamouh21:35
ChesamoYou kind of need Firefox running if you want to try this.21:35
goodtime_im running what i can so i dont crash my ram is tweeked so high21:36
goodtime_ok21:36
goodtime_ok killall works now21:37
goodtime_is waiting21:37
goodtime_for the next command21:37
Chesamoif killall works, then that's all you need21:38
goodtime_goodtime@goodtime-laptop:~$  killall firefox21:38
goodtime_goodtime@goodtime-laptop:~$21:38
goodtime_thats the responce to the command21:38
goodtime_is there no more to do then21:38
goodtime_ill say this firefox is still running21:39
goodtime_lol21:39
phillwgoodtime_: if ps -ef |grep firefox says you do not have ffox running, you do not have it running21:40
goodtime_5698     1  0 16:36 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin21:40
goodtime_goodtime  5702  5698  1 16:36 ?        00:00:03 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/firefox-bin21:40
goodtime_goodtime  5731  5410  1 16:40 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto firefox21:40
phillwkill 596821:41
phillwkill 570221:41
phillwis easier to issue21:42
phillwtop21:42
phillwand let that kill them21:42
goodtime_kill 596821:42
goodtime_bash: kill: (5968) - No such process21:42
phillwissue21:42
phillwtop21:42
phillwlook for firefox21:42
phillwonce you have the number, press the letter 'k' and type in the nunber, then answer 'y' to the request21:43
phillwyou should see firefox finish21:44
goodtime_its not in top21:44
goodtime_ofcourse21:44
goodtime_maybe i should reboot21:45
phillwgoodtime_: then issue21:45
phillwps -ef |grep firefox21:45
phillwto confirm21:45
phillwChesamo: I've got to go try to recover my own luubntu system, sorry to leave you with it :-\21:46
Chesamophillw: That's fine. Good luck.21:46
goodtime_fo21:52
goodtime_fire fox sill runs21:52
goodtime_idk man lol21:52
goodtime_ill get it sooner or later21:53
Chesamogoodtime_: firefox is running now?21:53
goodtime_yes21:53
goodtime_where's pastebin21:53
Chesamogoodtime_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21:53
goodtime_ok good there21:54
Chesamogoodtime_: What?21:55
goodtime_meening paste bin opened up21:57
goodtime_im sorry i just dont get it no hard feelings22:07
goodtime_:)22:07
Chesamogoodtime_: I'm not entirely sure what you want to do22:09
goodtime_i want ot kill fire fox ,it taxes my ram22:09
Chesamogoodtime_: Can you not, simply, not start it up?22:09
goodtime_it starts22:10
Chesamogoodtime_: What do you mean? Automatically?22:10
goodtime_no manuly22:11
goodtime_but i got rid of it once and i was being less taxed22:11
Chesamogoodtime_: I guess I don't understand the problem. If Firefox taxes your RAM, then why don't you just not use it?22:11
goodtime_i just dont need it so i thought i do that22:11
goodtime_idk it was better gone22:12
goodtime_my ram dropped alot22:12
goodtime_ill be ok i guess22:13
Chesamogoodtime_: What browser would you rather use?22:13
goodtime_ill get this thing upto 4 gig soon it only 160$22:13
goodtime_chrome something idk lol22:14
goodtime_ill find it in my softwear center22:14
Chesamogoodtime_: sudo aptitude purge firefox && rm -r ~/.mozilla && sudo aptitude install chromium-browser22:15
Chesamogoodtime_: that should do the trick22:15
goodtime_ubuntu is better than all the other distros ive used22:15
goodtime_ok22:15
goodtime_as root?22:15
Chesamogoodtime_: Just copy and paste that whole line (without goodtime_: in it)22:16
Chesamogoodtime_: you should never need to log in as root. sudo takes care of that.22:16
ZachK_goodtime_: do you understand the "Sudo" command?22:17
goodtime_sort of22:17
goodtime_its like a supper command22:17
ZachK_wrong22:17
goodtime_lol22:17
goodtime_idk then22:17
ZachK_it's not a super command..what it really does is grants "Temporary" root access to the user22:18
goodtime_ok that was easy to understand22:18
goodtime_i get that anyhow22:19
goodtime_ty22:19
goodtime_well that seemed to work ill brb22:21
stlsaintChesamo: all that command is not necessary...no need to remove ff and chrome is installed via package installer from site JFYI22:23
Chesamostlsaint: Installed via package installer from site? Chromium is in the repos.22:23
stlsaintChesamo: aye, i went with chrome from site22:23
Chesamostlsaint: I don't trust Google.22:24
stlsainthehe22:24
Chesamostlsaint: And why would you not take from the repos? Keeps you up to date.22:24
mohi2911Chesamo, saw a video describing google toilet??22:25
Chesamomohi2911: Negative22:25
mohi2911Chesamo, try seeing it and you ll laugh out a lot22:26
stlsaintChesamo: aye, to each his own ;)22:27
* mohi2911 whoises stlsaint 22:28
goodtimemy ram has dropped way down ty guys22:30
goodtimety Chesamo :)22:30
Chesamogoodtime: You're welcome22:30
goodtime :)22:31
stlsaintWOW...i never knew i could clear the channel screen22:31
stlsaintits truly like in terminal now22:31
stlsaintls22:31
stlsaintLOL22:31
stlsaintawesome22:31
goodtimei found like 100 cd's22:31
goodtimein cases22:32
goodtimeim rippen away here22:32
Chesamostlsaint: Yep, useful for clearing all those "private" and "sensitive" conversations from your screen if you need to real fast!22:32
stlsainti see22:32
goodtimethere must have been a dj that lost his disks because its all differnt stuff22:32
goodtimeim getting my modem changed saturday22:33
goodtimenewer one22:34
goodtimefree of charge22:34
goodtimethen i should get 12mbs22:35
ZachK_heya switchgirl22:53
switchgirlZachK_, hi :)22:55
ZachK_switchgirl: long time no see22:56
switchgirlZachK_, my /media/ntfs wont unmount :s22:56
ZachK_switchgirl: (It's Zachk18) incase you don't know22:56
ZachK_hmm22:58
ZachK_switchgirl: meaning it won't unmount at all?22:59
switchgirlnope and i rebooted loads of times22:59
ZachK_hmm22:59
ZachK_one sec23:00
ZachK_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB23:00
stlsaintswitchgirl: manually unmount it23:05
stlsaintcommand: umount23:05
PolarBearJohndoes anyone have a dog that does that weird backwards sneezing thing?23:06
PolarBearJohndoes anyone have a dog that does that weird backwards sneezing thing?23:06
pete_mhi guys - my system koala nbr, got messed up at update to lucid . .now no boot 'cept to init=/bin/bash root shell from grub - otherwise hangs. .23:06
PolarBearJohndoes anyone have a dog that does that weird backwards sneezing thing?23:06
Chesamo!ot |PolarBeatJohn23:06
ubot2PolarBeatJohn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!23:06
Chesamooops.23:06
ChesamoMisspelled too.23:06
kermiac_workhaha, someone killed the polar bear23:07
Chesamo!ot |PolarBearJohn23:07
ubot2PolarBearJohn: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!23:07
stlsaintTexasJam: sup23:18
TexasJamhey23:18
TexasJamjust getting some irc channels set - my first time on irc23:18
TexasJamdoes anyone use tomboy?23:20
kermiac_workTexasJam: I use tomboy, what's up?23:28
stlsaintTexasJam: are you really in texas?23:28
TexasJamstlsaint: ya23:29
stlsaintwe have a texas irc channel... check out #ubuntu-us-tx23:29
TexasJamstlsaint: trying to figure out a CMS, wondering if I should build some simple wiki on my server or do use a pre made solution like tomboy and the ubuntu server23:30
stlsaintTexasJam: do both...good practice! :D23:30
stlsaintthere are many great CMS to choose from23:30
TexasJamYa, but I haven't found anything as simple as I'm thinking23:31
stlsaintdrupal, joomla are both quite easy23:31
TexasJamya great solutions but way to many features23:31
TexasJami just want something like ether pad but on my own server, and maybe some permissions23:32
kermiac_workTexasJam: maybe look into gobby & sobby - http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/23:39
kermiac_workTexasJam: I've used it before. It's very easy to setup & works very well23:40
kermiac_workahh... too slow again23:40
stlsaintkermiac_work: hehe, he will be back! ;D23:41
kermiac_workTexasJam: maybe look into gobby & sobby - http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/23:41
kermiac_workTexasJam: I've used it before. It's very easy to setup & works very well23:41
TexasJamkermiac_work: thanks! taking a look right now. hold on23:42
kermiac_workno probs TexasJam23:43
TexasJamlooks like the use is mainly for collaborative coding?23:43
TexasJamThat looks great! but I'm searching for a web browser solution so the users don't need to install anything23:44
kermiac_workTexasJam: you can use it for editing docs23:44
phillwTexasJam: you can look at the wiki system that ubuntu uses?23:44
TexasJamwhat is that phillw?23:45
stlsaintphillw: LOL...thats exactly wat i was going to say but i had a plate in my hand23:45
stlsaintTexasJam: you know what wikipedia is right? sorta same thing23:45
stlsaintTexasJam: moinmoin :D23:45
kermiac_workTexasJam: oh, in that case I use http://titanpad.com/23:45
TexasJamahh, ya i've looked at moinmoin23:45
TexasJamtitan pad is a port of etherpad which is what inspired me the idea23:46
phillwTexasJam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Method 1. Use Synaptic Package Manager23:48
phillwis one example (sorry, i just happened to have it to hane)23:48
TexasJamI want to achieve the same goal as titanpad: single html page that i can give to others; no 'edit this page' button so that the other users can just add things to a list or article (plain text is fine); self hosted23:49
phillwTexasJam: another idea would be make a phpbb3 forum, they work okay for posting stuff to such as http://forum.phillw.net/23:50
phillwthat way you can post easily in to sections, and allow trusted peopl to edit them23:50
TexasJamThanks phillw23:50
phillwit's just a couple of ideas for you to think of23:51
TexasJamya, I don't like the forumn idea-even though it gives me some fine grain control on privileges.23:52
TexasJamThe priority is more around seeing the page of text and editing it-having the changes saved back to a text file on the server if possible23:53
bobo123if I install a second ubuntu, or for example mint, and later get tired of it, I guess I just remove its partition - but should I do something grub2:ish do remove it from the menu too?23:53
phillwidk, then TexasJam, there are many sites you can just post information to.23:54
Chesamobobo123: When you install Ubuntu it will be overwritten23:54
TexasJamya, thanks for the input all!23:54
phillwbobo123: if you are if 'playing' with installs, can i recommend you keep a seperate /home partition23:55
phillwbobo123: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome!23:56
user766Anyone have display resolution problems?  I found an answer for my Hardy 8.0423:56
phillwhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome23:56
phillwuser766: have a look on the forums, http://ubuntuforums.org/23:57
phillwthere may people who would appreciate your input23:57
user766I did look, and found some interesting but complex answers which did not work.  One line I did find useful. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start23:59

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