| rickspencer3 | sun is finally coming out here in Seattle | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| rickspencer3 | getting cold there? | 00:00 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm guessing cold for you is hot for us | 00:00 |
| RAOF | I'm guessing 5℃ isn't particularly hot for you. | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | I thought it was always hot in Australia | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | :/ | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | with the deserts and kangaroos and all | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | j/k | 00:01 |
| RAOF | The stuff up north, around the equator, yes. :) | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | anyway, 5 isn't all that cold | 00:02 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 00:03 |
| RAOF | Not inside, no. | 00:03 |
| rickspencer3 | heh | 00:03 |
| * RAOF is about the same lattitude as Wellington & Auckland | 00:04 | |
| ajmitch | luxury... | 00:04 |
| rickspencer3 | I think the deal is, that it's always hot there when it's cold here | 00:04 |
| rickspencer3 | so it seems like it is always hot for you guys | 00:04 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 00:05 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, I see dist-upgrade is still wanting to uninstall xorg-xserver | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | but I think your email worked | 00:07 |
| rickspencer3 | only one person asked me about it, and they asked if they should wait to upgrade for a few days | 00:07 |
| RAOF | Woot! | 00:07 |
| RAOF | A bunch of the drivers got built against the wrong xserver ABI. They're all rebuilt now, leaving siliconmotion which requires a new upstream to build against the new xserver. | 00:08 |
| rickspencer3 | I have a 7:05 am flight tomorrow | 00:11 |
| rickspencer3 | so going to step away now | 00:11 |
| rickspencer3 | cu guyz later ! | 00:11 |
| robert_ancell | later | 00:12 |
| RAOF | Have fun flying. | 00:12 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: enjoy your fliht. | 00:12 |
| TheMuso | flight | 00:12 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks TheMuso | 00:13 |
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| === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] | ||
| Sarvatt | RAOF: wacom still needs merging, evtouch needs a fakesync, xorg meta needs uploading, geode, displaylink, virtualbox-ose-guest-x11, glamo, nvidia-current, nvidia-173, nvidia-96 all need rebuilding | 01:25 |
| RAOF | savage wants a merge, too. | 01:26 |
| Sarvatt | oh duh, need to disable edgers to see everything else providing xserver-xorg-video-6 and xserver-xorg-input-7, i just had a list of things not installed :) | 01:30 |
| RAOF | Also, siliconmotion needs a new upstream to build against 1.8 :) | 01:30 |
| RAOF | Savage and siliconmotion are in git. | 01:30 |
| RAOF | And I want to touch nvidia-*'s apport hook before uploading them. | 01:30 |
| RAOF | Man, these chocolate biscuits are *awesome*. ½ 70% cocoa, ½ 85% cocoa chocolate + dark chocolate drops. MMmmm. | 01:38 |
| Sarvatt | 173 and 96 don't work with xserver 1.8 and current really shouldn't be providing an ABI I'd think since its compatible with multiple ones | 01:38 |
| RAOF | It could provide multiple ABIs then, but that's the reverse of what the XSF is going for. | 01:38 |
| LaserJock | does PyGI replaces pygtk? | 01:39 |
| Sarvatt | xserver-xorg-core breaks xserver-xorg-input-7 and xserver-xorg-video-6 so its really tricky, nothing can provide those and have it be installable :( if the meta was uploaded people without xserver-xorg-{video,input}-all could at least upgrade now | 01:40 |
| Sarvatt | well wacom would need to be updated too | 01:42 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 01:44 |
| Amaranth | LaserJock: I think the idea is to layer pygtk on top of pygi so you can keep using the same API | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | Amaranth: but if I was making a new app I could just use pygi, right? | 01:49 |
| Amaranth | assuming it exposes what you need, yes | 01:50 |
| Sarvatt | ah video-fbdev too | 01:58 |
| RAOF | Oh, yeah. That's merged locally too. | 02:01 |
| Sarvatt | hmm background transparency in gnome-terminal doesn't work with a rgba theme | 02:50 |
| RAOF | Works here. | 02:52 |
| Sarvatt | with darkroom? | 02:53 |
| RAOF | With Radiance | 02:54 |
| Sarvatt | thats not rgba yet? darkroom is still the only one with transparency everywhere here | 02:54 |
| RAOF | Edit the gtkrc and flip argb to TRUE. | 02:55 |
| RAOF | It'd work better if compiz blur didn't segfault in mesa. | 02:56 |
| Sarvatt | adjusting the transparency slider crashed gnome-terminal that time :D | 02:58 |
| Sarvatt | man abiance/radiance looks ugly with a side panel :( | 02:58 |
| Sarvatt | http://sarvatt.com/downloads/rgba2.png | 02:59 |
| RAOF | You're basically on a hiding to nothing with a side panel :) | 03:00 |
| Sarvatt | can't get transparency working in it, weird | 03:00 |
| Sarvatt | ok it works when i run it in gdb from a VT... :D | 03:14 |
| Sarvatt | thats so odd, installing the dbg packages and running it in gdb from a VT fixed it, its not crashing anymore either | 03:16 |
| RAOF | Hah! | 03:16 |
| Sarvatt | in that screenshot it was a little transparent wasnt it.. the settings must have just been stuck | 03:18 |
| Sarvatt | now to figure out how to get indicator applet application menu to show anything :) | 03:22 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Would you be able to sponsor some X uploads for me? There are a bunch of no-change rebuilds and a couple of easy merges from Debian. http://cooperteam.net/Packages/ have the source packages. | 04:10 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Right, so I don't need to pull from git for any of them? | 04:11 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: No. I've done all that for you :) | 04:11 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: dude, thanks heaps. | 04:12 |
| RAOF | You can pull them from git if you'd prefer, of course. :) | 04:12 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: no its fine. Do these need to be uploaded/built in any particular order? | 04:14 |
| Sarvatt | also have xorg meta here if possible- http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/xorg/ and it's in git here http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/debian/xorg.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu | 04:14 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: any particular reason the changelog entries from debian aren't included in the changes file for xserver-xorg-video-fbdev? | 04:15 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: Lets get everything up first, and I'll pull your source package, thanks. | 04:15 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: same for xserver-xorg-video-savage | 04:15 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Because I forgot them! Whoops, I'll just fix that up. | 04:16 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: thanks. BTW where do I get the orig tarballs from? Debian I assume. | 04:17 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 04:17 |
| RAOF | For the ones which aren't simply no-change rebuilds of what we've got in Ubuntu. | 04:18 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: ok | 04:18 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: ok let me know when you have fixed those changes files. | 04:19 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Fixed. | 04:24 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: thanks | 04:24 |
| TheMuso | Now to fetch the orig tarballs. | 04:29 |
| RAOF | Want me to upload them? | 04:30 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: nah its fine | 04:31 |
| * TheMuso sighs at the new spam bot crap going around the last day or so. | 04:32 | |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Can I add siliconmotion to that list, sorry? | 04:33 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: sure. | 04:33 |
| RAOF | It's up, and has everything including orig.tar.gz | 04:33 |
| TheMuso | dude you are a legend! thanks | 04:34 |
| TheMuso | Already building xserver-xorg-video-displaylink anyway | 04:35 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: just doing a mass test build now. | 04:42 |
| RAOF | Ta. | 04:42 |
| RAOF | You know what? It's lunch time. | 04:44 |
| * TheMuso had his about an hour ago. :p | 04:45 | |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, when I go to dist-upgrade my maverick box it wants to remove xserver-xorg-input-mouse - that's a bad thing right? | 05:01 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 05:01 |
| RAOF | Well, actually, if that's the _only_ thing it wants to remove you'd be ok. evdev handles mice. | 05:02 |
| robert_ancell | it's just that and xsever-xorg-video-tseng which is n/a for me | 05:02 |
| RAOF | You won't miss xserver-xorg-input-mouse. | 05:02 |
| robert_ancell | so is input-mouse deprecated in favour of evdev? | 05:02 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 05:03 |
| robert_ancell | dist-upgrading now... | 05:03 |
| * RAOF disappears back to lunch in case of breakage | 05:04 | |
| TheMuso | RAOF: nothing yet, build wise. | 05:10 |
| TheMuso | just doing dummy test build | 05:10 |
| RAOF | That seems a surprisingly slow rate of builds - why do they take so long for you? | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: I am running them in a linear fashion because I am too lazy to try and parallelize them. | 05:19 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: and dpkg takes ages to install packages... | 05:19 |
| RAOF | Hm. | 05:20 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: all uploaded | 05:21 |
| * RAOF likes his sbuild union-mount-on-tmpfs quite a lot. | 05:22 | |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Gratsias. | 05:22 |
| TheMuso | heh | 05:22 |
| RAOF | Or however you spell it ): | 05:22 |
| RAOF | :( | 05:22 |
| RAOF | :) | 05:22 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: I should consider that myself | 05:22 |
| TheMuso | heh | 05:22 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: how much of RAM do you allocate to it? | 05:22 |
| RAOF | 80%, so I can build huge packages like mesa. | 05:23 |
| TheMuso | right | 05:23 |
| TheMuso | How much RAM do you have? | 05:23 |
| RAOF | But almost nothing needs nearly that amount. | 05:23 |
| RAOF | 4GB | 05:23 |
| RAOF | Minus shared GPU memory | 05:23 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 05:23 |
| * TheMuso has 4GB as well, so that sounds reasonable then | 05:24 | |
| RAOF | And sbuild is now more memory efficient than doing the same with a pbuilder. Yay! | 05:24 |
| Sarvatt | except vmmouse is in input-all and depends on mouse | 05:25 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: haven't uploaded x meta yet | 05:27 |
| TheMuso | if you have more tweeking to do, go ahead | 05:27 |
| Sarvatt | no tweeking left in meta if thats what you meant, i was just saying vmmouse depends on mouse regarding the earlier conversation, if it wants to remove mouse it must want to remove a lot more than just mouse and its a bad thing | 05:31 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 05:31 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: So xorg meta is ready to go? | 05:32 |
| Sarvatt | yeah, wacom needs a merge though still for xserver-xorg-core to be installable and i havent had any luck with that | 05:33 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: Same as I asked RAOF about before. Is there a reason why you left out debian changelog entries from the changes file for the merge? | 05:33 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: so I'll hold off then? | 05:34 |
| statik | hi hi | 05:41 |
| statik | anyone around who would be interested in sponsoring a merge of protobuf from debian? | 05:41 |
| Sarvatt | well that was a nasty surprise, got a hang and apparently plymouth no workie when your xserver doesn't support -nr :) | 05:41 |
| Sarvatt | TheMuso: is there a different way I should have created the source package to include that? | 05:42 |
| statik | http://people.canonical.com/~emurphy/protobuf-merge/ | 05:42 |
| Sarvatt | debuild -S -sa -i -I doesn't include that apparently, is there another flag I can pass to include it or just something that needs to be done manually? | 05:43 |
| RAOF | You need to pass -v$LAST_UBUNTU_VERSION | 05:44 |
| Sarvatt | aha! | 05:45 |
| statik | ooh, i didn't know about that | 05:46 |
| Sarvatt | TheMuso: fixed it up then, sorry about that - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/xorg/ | 05:48 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: Right, because of wacom/xserver-xorg-core, shoudl we not wait till wacom is sorted? | 05:49 |
| Sarvatt | it doesn't matter really, it's better to have the meta in early so that the xserver-xorg-video-all | xserver-xorg-video-7, xserver-xorg-input-all | xserver-xorg-input-9 depends actually work for people that dont have input/video-all installed but yeah wacom really needs to be updated so xserver-xorg-core is even installable | 05:52 |
| TheMuso | Well its up to both you guys | 05:54 |
| TheMuso | I won't act on it unless explicitly given a yes. | 05:54 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Yes. Uploading the metapackage is fine. | 05:57 |
| TheMuso | ok | 05:57 |
| TheMuso | ok uploading | 05:59 |
| TheMuso | uploaded | 05:59 |
| Sarvatt | thanks TheMuso | 06:00 |
| TheMuso | np | 06:00 |
| robert_ancell | does anyone know why we're running such an old version of dbus? | 06:23 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: But keybuk might. | 06:26 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: no, but keybuk might | 06:26 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, thanks | 06:26 |
| Sarvatt | is it me or does dbus git look screwed up? master and dbus-1.2 branch are the same | 06:29 |
| Sarvatt | (dbus-1.2 has 1.3.1 in it) | 06:30 |
| robert_ancell | Sarvatt, that doesn't sound good | 06:45 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: Hopefully that could be recoverable with tags. | 06:46 |
| TheMuso | At least mostly. | 06:47 |
| Sarvatt | i was looking here to see how far we were behind - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/dbus/dbus/ | 06:47 |
| TheMuso | that would depend on whether there were changes included that weren't part of a tagged release. | 06:47 |
| statik | hi TheMuso, any chance you would have a few moments to sponsor an upload of protobuf? it's just a merge from debian+patch refresh. | 06:47 |
| statik | http://people.canonical.com/~emurphy/protobuf-merge/ | 06:47 |
| TheMuso | statik: will take a look. | 06:48 |
| statik | TheMuso, thanks! I tried to hassle robert first, but he is still waiting on core-dev rights | 06:48 |
| TheMuso | statik: just running a test build. | 06:51 |
| statik | TheMuso: thanks. I've testbuild in a maverick cowbuilder, and also we've been running a backport of this on our lucid test servers and the hardy servers in the datacenter, so i'm reasonably confident that it is sane. | 06:52 |
| TheMuso | ok | 06:53 |
| statik | but I am quite a salesman, so a testbuild is completely appropriate :) | 06:53 |
| TheMuso | I always run a test build to be safe anyway. | 06:53 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:53 |
| TheMuso | Morning pitti. | 06:54 |
| pitti | hey TheMuso, how are you? | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | Gah! More list moderation queue spam to deal with. | 06:54 |
| statik | hi pitti | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | pitti: very well thanks, yourself? | 06:54 |
| pitti | I'm great, thanks | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | I sware some new bots have come online this last few days | 06:54 |
| pitti | hey statik | 06:54 |
| pitti | for a few days now I get very strange spam, and tons of it | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | Me too. | 06:55 |
| pitti | just random words, which always make it through my spam filter | 06:55 |
| pitti | looks like there's a large-scale attack to confuse the adjustments of all Bayesian filters out there | 06:55 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, hey, I'm doing a dbus merge, is there anything in particular to look out for? | 06:55 |
| TheMuso | The recent stuff I have seen is messages with twitter in the subject, as well as some outlook notification or some such. | 06:55 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: just that Keybuk claimed the merge | 06:55 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, ok, makes my life easy. Whose domain is dbus? Can we get it into bzr? | 06:56 |
| TheMuso | I'd suspect dbus is foundations now. | 06:56 |
| TheMuso | suspect | 06:56 |
| pitti | and a million fake "account notifications" with javascript; go viruses | 06:57 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: Keybuk is one of the upstreams | 06:57 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: conceptually it's rather desktop-ish, though; I suggest to ping/email him and check who should merge | 06:57 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Yeah seen something similar. | 06:58 |
| TheMuso | statik: uploading | 07:02 |
| statik | TheMuso, you rock | 07:03 |
| RAOF | The xserver-xorg-input-wacom is ready for sponsoring - available here: http://cooperteam.net/Packages/xf86-input-wacom_0.10.6-0ubuntu1.dsc http://cooperteam.net/Packages/xf86-input-wacom_0.10.6-0ubuntu1_source.changes | 07:25 |
| pitti | RAOF: doing | 07:26 |
| pitti | uploaded | 07:26 |
| RAOF | pitti: Rocking. Thanks. | 07:27 |
| Sarvatt | jockey's data/handlers/nvidia.py needs something like this for nvidia-173 to work - | 07:43 |
| Sarvatt | if self.version == '173': | 07:43 |
| Sarvatt | self.xorg_conf.addOption('ServerFlags', 'IgnoreABI', 'True', optiontype='Option', position=0) | 07:43 |
| Sarvatt | still no nvidia-173 release that works without IgnoreABI :( | 07:43 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:59 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 08:13 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen pitti, how are you? | 08:13 |
| pitti | I'm great, thanks! how about you? | 08:13 |
| didrocks | I'm fine, thanks. It's almost dark outside because of the bad weather though | 08:14 |
| pitti | wow, we have bright sunshine | 08:16 |
| didrocks | totally different story there :) | 08:16 |
| seb128 | hey there | 08:25 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, ça va ? | 08:25 |
| pitti | bonjour sebastien | 08:25 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:25 |
| seb128 | nickel, et toi ? | 08:25 |
| didrocks | ça va, il fait juste presque nuit sur Paris ^^ | 08:25 |
| seb128 | donc tu peux bosser sans distractions? ;-) | 08:27 |
| didrocks | seb128: roh, tout de suite :-) | 08:31 |
| pitti | RAOF: ahh, got rejected; you dropped the epoch | 08:31 |
| pitti | RAOF: shall I reupload with epoch, or do you want to fix in git and produce a new source yourself? | 08:32 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 08:32 |
| seb128 | how is the xorg transition going? | 08:32 |
| RAOF | Please reupload with the epoch; we're not really using the git. | 08:32 |
| pitti | RAOF: done | 08:34 |
| RAOF | seb128: Once wacom is uploaded & built xserver-xorg-video-all and xserver-xorg-input-all will be installable; upgrades should now go through. Unless you're using proprietary drivers :) | 08:34 |
| RAOF | pitti: Thanks muchly! | 08:34 |
| seb128 | RAOF, I uninstall wacom yesterday | 08:37 |
| seb128 | those seems to still need an update: glamo geode fbdev ivtv siliconmotion | 08:37 |
| seb128 | those are the drivers with the abi at 6 and not 7 | 08:38 |
| seb128 | those are the drivers with the abi at 6 and not 7 there | 08:38 |
| RAOF | Right. fbdev, ivtv, siliconmotion have builds pending. | 08:39 |
| RAOF | glamo is tremendously obscure, and requires some patching to get building. | 08:39 |
| pitti | we could temporarily remove it from -all to get back installability? | 08:41 |
| RAOF | geode (should) will just require a no-change rebuild. I haven't got to it because I'm not on i386 :) | 08:42 |
| seb128 | RAOF, btw I did the intel no change rebuild but I didn't commit anywhere, do you use a vcs? can you commit for me the changelog update? | 08:45 |
| RAOF | seb128: That's already been done, thanks :) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | thank you | 08:45 |
| seb128 | I guess I can update now | 08:46 |
| seb128 | I don't need any of the drivers I listed | 08:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: libgee MIR done (bug #592060). Once you have some free time if you can push it to main so that unity can build, that will be a good way to start the day :) | 08:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 592060 in libgee (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libgee (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592060 | 08:51 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 08:52 |
| pitti | sure, feel free to pre-promote it | 08:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 08:52 |
| didrocks | the package just produce a single library, however, there are a lot of sources in vala | 08:53 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, pitti, hey, what happened with that gdm patch? | 08:58 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 08:58 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, which one? | 08:58 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: seb ported it to the current -proposed version | 08:58 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, the one pitti was talking about, was there another proposed not in bzr? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, no, but 2.30.2 failed verification and has new crashers and bugs | 08:59 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, so it's a no go to lucid-updates | 08:59 |
| robert_ancell | oh, ok | 08:59 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I rebased on the current lucid version | 08:59 |
| robert_ancell | so it's all ok now? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I rebased on the current lucid version for now | 09:00 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, did you read my comments on the bug? | 09:00 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, but I was confused. I thought you'd done that but I wanted to check | 09:00 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, the update doesn't fix the issue | 09:00 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, the changes we have seems to have the same "watch files in user directories trigger automounting storm" issue | 09:01 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I think they were using the old SRU | 09:01 |
| seb128 | no | 09:01 |
| seb128 | 16_gdmserver_user_manager.patch:+ user->icon_monitor = g_file_monitor_file (file, | 09:02 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ^ I think that's still an issue | 09:02 |
| robert_ancell | my patch means this code is never executed if IncludeAll=false (which is the correct behaviour for NFS systems afaik) | 09:03 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, see 91_git_no_icons_watching.patch in my upload | 09:03 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, EtienneG tested the update and says it's still an issue | 09:03 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I can check today with him he's running the right version but I think he was | 09:04 |
| robert_ancell | EtienneG says he tested -0ubutntu1 which is the SRU before my one | 09:04 |
| robert_ancell | I made -0ubuntu2 | 09:04 |
| robert_ancell | so your saying the 2.30.2-0ubuntu1 SRU has failed verification and was pulled back, so you took my changes in 2.30.2-0ubuntu2 and applied them to 2.30.0-0ubuntu6? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, no | 09:06 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I did 2.30.2.is.2.30.0-0ubuntu1 | 09:06 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, get the source from launchpad | 09:06 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I rebased on the lucid version your changes and some git commits and some pitti changes | 09:06 |
| robert_ancell | ok, but that hasn't been tested by EtienneG afaik, as he says in the report he tested 2.30.2-0ubuntu1 | 09:07 |
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| seb128 | robert_ancell, oh ok, I will check today with him what version he tested | 09:10 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I'm not sure if people got confused by the version I used or if they are still running the previous one | 09:10 |
| didrocks | talking about that, there is no lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/lucid, where is the lucid branch? | 09:10 |
| didrocks | just to start with the good base :) | 09:11 |
| seb128 | didrocks, there is none | 09:11 |
| seb128 | apt-get source | 09:11 |
| seb128 | I didn't work in bzr | 09:11 |
| didrocks | ok, no worry | 09:12 |
| seb128 | I tend to no do a bzr for stable updates | 09:12 |
| didrocks | seb128: really? ok, I should remove some lucid branch I've pushed so :) | 09:12 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, ok, the patch looks fine - it should work np | 09:12 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, nice, thanks | 09:13 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, what are you working on now otherwise btw? | 09:13 |
| robert_ancell | merging mostly | 09:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, we have low overlap atm, it's hard to follow what you do | 09:14 |
| seb128 | out of rocking merges and getting pygi in | 09:14 |
| seb128 | which is already a lot ;-) | 09:14 |
| seb128 | but it seems we settle down | 09:14 |
| seb128 | the merges list is almost done no? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, GNOME 2.31 increased my stress level btw | 09:15 |
| robert_ancell | I was looking a the other GDM bug but there's only so much GDM I can take at one time | 09:15 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, why? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:15 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, it seems some things will depends on gtk3 | 09:15 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I've got a list of things we should talk about GNOME 3.0 at the sprint. I think that's when we should make the decision on how much we can take in Maverick | 09:15 |
| seb128 | and I don't want gtk3 in the default installation | 09:16 |
| robert_ancell | Still a lot of merges to go, it's hard to tell how long as some are easy and some are very hard | 09:16 |
| seb128 | the schedule is not reliable | 09:16 |
| seb128 | it would mean duplicate the gtk stack | 09:16 |
| seb128 | ie CD space issue | 09:16 |
| seb128 | and we can't have an app loading gtk2 and gtk3 at the same time | 09:16 |
| seb128 | ie we need duplicate builds of each lib | 09:16 |
| robert_ancell | right, I was going to ask about that. Is there anything useful in gtk3? | 09:16 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, which ones are on your list to merge still? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, things like gdm we should not bother with | 09:17 |
| seb128 | or gvfs | 09:17 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, anything on versions that has gnome- in from of it | 09:17 |
| seb128 | there is just lot of work for no win | 09:17 |
| robert_ancell | agree not moving gdm | 09:17 |
| robert_ancell | I think there's not enough time to get new stuff in anyway, we should just pick some interesting apps (if there are any) | 09:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, gtk3 has nice changes | 09:18 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, are they backportable? | 09:18 |
| seb128 | the new layout thing, multi touch, symbolic icons, libunique | 09:18 |
| robert_ancell | multi touch would be very nice | 09:18 |
| robert_ancell | what is the layout thing? | 09:18 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, we will likely backport symbolic icons | 09:19 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, having gtklabels to rewrap dynamically | 09:19 |
| robert_ancell | GTK3 is on the gtk-2-90 branch? | 09:19 |
| robert_ancell | the labels would be nice | 09:19 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:19 |
| seb128 | let me find the email about it | 09:20 |
| seb128 | it's non trivial work to how gtk work | 09:20 |
| robert_ancell | I've got the GTK 2.90.2 release email but haven't seen anything else | 09:21 |
| didrocks | if we don't take evo 2.32, it would be great to take the new patches for netbook and --express that land into trunk | 09:22 |
| didrocks | some other distro uses them with 2.30, so it should be mergeable easily | 09:22 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-April/msg00044.html | 09:22 |
| robert_ancell | ah, I don't follow gtk-devel | 09:23 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, thanks | 09:23 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101968 | 09:23 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 101968 in GtkLabel "(extended-layout) Height-for-width layout" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] | 09:23 |
| robert_ancell | oh, I remember reading a blog post about this | 09:23 |
| huats | morning | 09:23 |
| huats | hello seb128 didrocks and robert_ancell | 09:23 |
| robert_ancell | huats, hey | 09:23 |
| didrocks | salut huats | 09:23 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 09:24 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, in any case I can see softwares will depends on gtk3 | 09:24 |
| seb128 | I want to get gtk3 in | 09:24 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, software will already depend on other GNOME3 stuff (e.g. gsettings/dconf). We will have to pick wisely :) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | but not on the default installation | 09:25 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, is anyone packaging it yet? | 09:25 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, well, I've no real issue with gsettings in the default install | 09:25 |
| seb128 | it's in glib | 09:25 |
| seb128 | but a new gtk stack... | 09:25 |
| seb128 | we have no CD space and it's going to do a lot of work | 09:25 |
| seb128 | especially since they don't version symbols | 09:25 |
| seb128 | which means you can use gtk3 and a gtk2 client library | 09:26 |
| seb128 | so we will need to duplicate quite some libs to have gtk3 versions | 09:26 |
| robert_ancell | oh | 09:26 |
| robert_ancell | anyway, I have to go. See you guys later | 09:27 |
| seb128 | see you | 09:27 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, yes for gtk3 | 09:27 |
| seb128 | some gnome-shell ppa guys | 09:27 |
| seb128 | and debian started some work | 09:27 |
| seb128 | I will try to get people to work together | 09:27 |
| robert_ancell | nice | 09:27 |
| seb128 | and get it in debian | 09:27 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, have fun | 09:27 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, see you! | 09:27 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, oh, one last question. what is the deal with the xdg/autostart gnome/autostart changes in Debian. Which one do we use? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, etc which is the upstream location | 09:28 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, but I'm open to discuss it | 09:28 |
| seb128 | it's just annoying since you need to clean etc in preinst etc | 09:28 |
| seb128 | conffiles | 09:28 |
| seb128 | and it's useless diff over upstream | 09:28 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I just keep coming up against it in merges, and I've matched debian which I think now is the wrong way | 09:29 |
| seb128 | debian changes it because they don't want those to be conffiles | 09:29 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, if you move to usr and didn't add preinst cleaning code you will still have the etc entry on upgrade | 09:29 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, well, I copied the debian code so it has the cleaning | 09:30 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:30 |
| robert_ancell | anyway, later | 09:30 |
| RAOF | Anyone want to sponsor a -geode no-change rebuild? http://cooperteam.net/Packages/xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.11.8-4build1.dsc | 09:31 |
| pitti | RAOF: do you have a source.changes? | 09:32 |
| RAOF | Yup, same location. | 09:32 |
| RAOF | http://cooperteam.net/Packages/xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.11.8-4build1_source.changes | 09:32 |
| pitti | RAOF: uploaded | 09:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu/revision/257 contains the fix and I pushed it to maverick, don't know if you want to wait for more fixes for lucid before pushing -proposed | 09:35 |
| RAOF | pitti: Danke | 09:36 |
| pitti | I suggest to get the current gdm in proposed to -updates first | 09:36 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes let's see how etienneg's testing go | 09:36 |
| seb128 | if the current update can go to updates wait for that | 09:36 |
| didrocks | ok, just ping me when I need to push it to -proposed | 09:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, we might batch other changes with it | 09:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, just set the bug to fix commited with the bzr url | 09:39 |
| didrocks | on the lucid task? ok | 09:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes | 09:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, or feel free to import my current upload in a bzr and push yours is the vcs | 09:40 |
| seb128 | we can use that for the next update | 09:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, if you prefer not using a vcs for -updates (and as we have done most of them, I guess), I don't want to change your workflow, I have no strong opinion about that, so let's wait for -proposed to be opened again for gdm | 09:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's not that I prefer or not | 09:43 |
| seb128 | I'm just to lazy to set one | 09:43 |
| seb128 | I did what was easier | 09:43 |
| didrocks | :) | 09:43 |
| seb128 | I would have used a vcs if there was one | 09:44 |
| didrocks | your current upload content, do you mean something different than -ubuntu2 ? | 09:44 |
| seb128 | waouh, new xorg seems to work ;-) | 09:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ? | 09:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, 2.30.2.is.2.30.0-0ubuntu1 | 09:45 |
| didrocks | "feel free to import my current upload in a bzr" -> not sure I'm following, do you talk about the -ubuntu2 gdm upload in maverick? | 09:45 |
| didrocks | ok | 09:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, if you want to do a sru bzr | 09:45 |
| seb128 | you can import that | 09:46 |
| seb128 | or take the revision from the current one which as common | 09:46 |
| seb128 | commit my update to it | 09:46 |
| seb128 | commit your change | 09:46 |
| seb128 | then push somewhere | 09:46 |
| seb128 | as -> was | 09:46 |
| didrocks | sure | 09:46 |
| seb128 | ie before we did a maverick commit | 09:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw I've some time now, did you want to discuss that UNE transition wiki of yours? | 09:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure, even if I have even take some decision fom yesterday's upload :) | 09:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hum | 09:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, do you still need my input and on what? | 09:48 |
| seb128 | will be easier this way ;-) | 09:48 |
| didrocks | I've talked to LaserJock too and he agreed in a plan (as he wants to take over netbook-launcher maintainership) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:48 |
| didrocks | well, I can do a "FYI" thing, so that you can give your input | 09:48 |
| didrocks | the idea is: | 09:48 |
| seb128 | so it seems you don't need my input ;-) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:48 |
| pitti | wow, there's someone taking over the 3D launcher? | 09:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: right | 09:49 |
| pitti | who will maintain the -efl one, BTW? | 09:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: basically to avoid corner cases, the idea is to ship a new source package with netbook-launcher and rename it | 09:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: I guess it's still the ARM team (that what was discussed at UDS) | 09:49 |
| pitti | ah, thanks | 09:50 |
| didrocks | netbook-launcher is a transition package to unity now | 09:50 |
| pitti | I really started to like it; it's tremendously fast | 09:50 |
| didrocks | pitti: don't you find it too much blinging? | 09:50 |
| pitti | looks quite nice to me.. | 09:50 |
| didrocks | pitti: people seems to like that, I keep have feature requests about animations that are implemented in -efl | 09:50 |
| milanbv | hey guys, do you think someone could find the time to SRU upstream bugfix releases for system-tools-backends, liboobs and gnome-system-tools? | 09:51 |
| milanbv | I'm really ashamed of their buggy status in Lucid | 09:51 |
| milanbv | we can't keep this for several years anyway! | 09:51 |
| didrocks | milanbv: did you prepare some packages? (I would rather have a check for SRU team about the amount of changes) | 09:53 |
| milanbv | didrocks: I'm really lame at packaging | 09:54 |
| milanbv | :p | 09:54 |
| milanbv | should be quite easy for you | 09:54 |
| milanbv | but I'm really fighting with downstream patches | 09:54 |
| didrocks | I think huats wanted to redo some active packaging tasks :) | 09:55 |
| milanbv | at least for system-tools-backends and liboobs, it should only be a matter of merging from upstream | 09:55 |
| milanbv | for gnome-system-tools, we need to drop a downstream patch | 09:56 |
| huats | didrocks, I am indeed... | 09:56 |
| huats | I can do it milanbv if you want | 09:57 |
| milanbv | huats: that would be great! | 09:57 |
| huats | well I have said that without looking at the log | 09:57 |
| huats | but :) | 09:57 |
| milanbv | log is relatively short | 09:57 |
| milanbv | those are bugfix releases | 09:58 |
| milanbv | for gnome-system-tools, I've done a merge request to add a new downstream patch | 09:58 |
| milanbv | plus we need to drop 10_disable_interfaces.patch (which is a nightmare to merge anyway) | 09:59 |
| huats | milanbv, let me look at the various packages you mentionned | 09:59 |
| milanbv | sure :-) | 09:59 |
| huats | I'll get back to you during the day | 09:59 |
| milanbv | I can link bugs to the branch if you want, since I know which are fixed | 09:59 |
| milanbv | *which ones | 10:00 |
| milanbv | thanks! | 10:00 |
| huats | milanbv, that might be great | 10:00 |
| seb128 | hum | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 10:29 |
| seb128 | gnome-screensaver doesn't detect mouse activity with the new xorg | 10:29 |
| seb128 | ie moving the mouse when it starts kicking it doesn't stop the locking | 10:29 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 10:29 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm good thanks, how are you? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 10:30 |
| chrisccoulson | does it detect the mouse movement once the screen is locked? | 10:30 |
| seb128 | the mouse cursor moves if that's what you mean | 10:30 |
| seb128 | and I can click on the unlock button | 10:30 |
| seb128 | it seems that the idle timer is not resetted or something | 10:31 |
| seb128 | or not sure what should stop the lock on unactivity | 10:31 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i can't remember what stops it when you move the mouse as it's fading | 10:32 |
| seb128 | whatever that is it broken with the xorg 1.8 update | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, it's the idletime counter resetting that cancels it mid-fade | 10:34 |
| milanbv | btw, have you noticed how sound skips when screensaver activates? | 10:39 |
| milanbv | happens since Karmic, really weird | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | grrr, no internet again | 11:29 |
| pitti | 3G FTW? | 11:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh btw thanks for fixing firefox startup notification | 11:29 |
| seb128 | that bug was driving me crazy | 11:29 |
| seb128 | it made firefox not get focus when launched from a launcher | 11:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i realised we weren't even enabling the feature ;) | 11:30 |
| seb128 | so I kept typing urls in xchat-gnome | 11:30 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i'm on my 3G now | 11:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, unity building btw | 11:38 |
| seb128 | the build started some minutes ago | 11:38 |
| seb128 | lunch time | 11:39 |
| seb128 | bbl | 11:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I triggered a rebuild, can't wait :) | 11:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: enjoy | 11:43 |
| didrocks | Internet issue there too :/ the wifi seems down, got a cable | 11:43 |
| fta | in maverick, to obtain a "`" using a french keyboard, i need to type it twice. how can i revert that to the old behavior? | 12:13 |
| seb128 | what keyboard do you use? | 12:15 |
| seb128 | keyboard layout rather | 12:15 |
| seb128 | I can't confirm there | 12:16 |
| fta | seb128, "France (Legacy) Alternative" | 12:17 |
| seb128 | "France Autre" | 12:18 |
| seb128 | try this one, it's the default one | 12:18 |
| seb128 | otherwise it's a xkeyboard-config issue I guess | 12:18 |
| fta | ok, better. thanks | 12:20 |
| fta | the only pref i change is to drop un-breakable space | 12:21 |
| fta | not sure why i got the legacy layout though. it's a quite fresh install | 12:22 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| fta | evolution crashes in plugin_lib_invoke() while trying to format a message with a text/calendar attcht. http://paste.ubuntu.com/447726/ | 12:37 |
| fta | well, SIGSEGV in format_itip() | 12:38 |
| seb128 | fta, you can probably search for similar bugs on bugzilla.gnome.org | 12:40 |
| seb128 | fta, there is no active evolution hacker there so better to upstream crash issues you get | 12:40 |
| seb128 | fta, they are responsive usually | 12:40 |
| fta | seb128, not really, i have a few bugs there opened for more than a year | 12:47 |
| fta | even with patched | 12:48 |
| seb128 | well depends of the bugs | 12:49 |
| fta | gnome 619959 | 12:49 |
| seb128 | you can lobby for those in #evolution | 12:49 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 619959 in Mailer "Crash in format_itip at itip-formatter.c line 2567" [Critical,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619959 | 12:49 |
| === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless | ||
| seb128 | they are often responsive | 12:49 |
| fta | so that crash is already known | 12:50 |
| cassidy | seb128, gst packages have been tagged verification-done on lp, what's the next before having them in lucid-upgrade? | 12:52 |
| seb128 | cassidy, nothing | 12:52 |
| seb128 | cassidy, one week delay | 12:52 |
| cassidy | ah that's automatic | 12:52 |
| seb128 | cassidy, to catch eventual issues | 12:52 |
| cassidy | good good | 12:53 |
| seb128 | fta, try adding a comment saying you get it as well | 12:54 |
| fta | seb128, done, but i can't change the status, it's still Unconfirmed | 12:54 |
| seb128 | fta, it doesn't make any difference | 12:56 |
| seb128 | bugzilla.gnome.org people tend to not make any difference between unconfirmed and new bugs | 12:56 |
| fta | seb128, #evolution is almost empty (2 + me) | 12:57 |
| seb128 | fta, it's on irc.gnome.org | 12:58 |
| fta | oh, damn | 12:58 |
| seb128 | mvo, bug #579669 | 13:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 579669 in software-properties (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Creates sources.list.d file with illegal character in name (affects: 1) (heat: 113)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579669 | 13:11 |
| seb128 | mvo, could you review the patch on that bug? | 13:11 |
| mvo | sure | 13:11 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks ;-) | 13:11 |
| fta | would be nice if software-properties was more etckeeper friendly.. | 13:14 |
| === rodrigo__ is now known as rodrigo_ | ||
| milanbv | seb128: regarding GTK+ 3.0 dep, see | 13:27 |
| milanbv | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-June/msg00132.html | 13:27 |
| milanbv | I think you should talk with upstream if Ubuntu wants to stick with 2.x | 13:28 |
| milanbv | for example, I think Colin was willing to backport GtkApplication to 2.22, but Matthias wasn't really in favor of it | 13:28 |
| seb128 | milanbv, talk about what, | 13:28 |
| seb128 | that's their choice to say 2.31 requires gtk3 | 13:28 |
| milanbv | seb128: but if you don't say that you plan to try using 2.22, people won't have any reason to be compatible with it | 13:30 |
| milanbv | often that's not a strict requirement, just easier for maintainers | 13:30 |
| seb128 | vuntz, there? | 13:30 |
| seb128 | milanbv, well I guess it basically means we should not go for GNOME 2.31 this cycle | 13:30 |
| seb128 | we were already not sure with dconf | 13:31 |
| milanbv | the mail didn't say GNOME would require GTK+3.0 | 13:31 |
| seb128 | well it says that next GNOME 2.31 will have gtk 2.90 | 13:32 |
| milanbv | was a question | 13:32 |
| milanbv | but if nobody knows some distributions want to use 2.22, 2.31 may well end up with most modules requiring 3.0 | 13:32 |
| seb128 | which means 2.31 tarball can depends on it | 13:32 |
| seb128 | which is basically a GNOME choice | 13:32 |
| mclasen | milanbv: I don't think we want to make this an opt-in decision for distros... | 13:33 |
| seb128 | I don't think it would be fair to ask them to slow down GNOME3 for distro considerations | 13:33 |
| seb128 | it just meants distros get to choice to stay on what they have now | 13:33 |
| seb128 | or go for GNOME3 | 13:33 |
| milanbv | I'm not talking about forcing GNOME to use 2.22 | 13:33 |
| milanbv | but you were talking about patching 2.22 with features from 3.0 | 13:34 |
| mclasen | milanbv: also, gtk3 is not really a scary thing; it is fully parallel installable | 13:34 |
| milanbv | better do this upstream | 13:34 |
| milanbv | mclasen: yeah, I know, I'm basing my tought on Ubuntu plans here | 13:34 |
| seb128 | mclasen, it's just lot of work because you need to maintain the stack twice | 13:34 |
| seb128 | because gtk doesn't use versioned symbols | 13:35 |
| mclasen | thats a red herring | 13:35 |
| seb128 | which means you can't use gtk3 and a lib which uses gtk2 at the same time | 13:35 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | so you need to duplicate libraries to have gtk2 and gtk3 builds | 13:35 |
| mclasen | symbol versions will not fix that problem for you | 13:35 |
| seb128 | having those installable together as well | 13:35 |
| seb128 | it's tedious work if nothing else | 13:36 |
| seb128 | didrocks, http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html | 13:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks, desktop-maverick-une-app-selection and dx-m-app-menubar | 13:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks, is the wi duplicates between both? | 13:58 |
| seb128 | or are those different components to install? | 13:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: I deleted a few minutes ago the duplicated one | 13:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok thanks | 14:00 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 14:00 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 14:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, how are you? | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | good, and you? | 14:07 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 14:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, could you give me a summary of what's going on with indicator-appmenu? | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | getting appmenu-gtk and indicator-appmenu ready to be sponsored :) | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | reviewing the packaging, waiting for dx to make releases | 14:08 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:08 |
| seb128 | let me know if you want me to do a review of the work at it's now | 14:09 |
| seb128 | I've some free slots today | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | will do | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | great | 14:09 |
| === \vish is now known as vish | ||
| fta | bratsche, fyi, BadMatch in gtk-recordMyDesktop too | 14:39 |
| seb128 | fta, open a bug and tag it gtk-csd | 14:42 |
| fta | seb128, well, yeah. i wanted to expose a bug, i found another one. | 14:46 |
| fta | seb128, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/broken-menu-when-hovering-up.ogv | 14:46 |
| seb128 | fta, it's a gtk bug fixed in git | 14:47 |
| seb128 | will be fixed in gtk 2.21.2 | 14:47 |
| fta | ok | 14:47 |
| seb128 | hum | 15:10 |
| seb128 | unhappy internet today | 15:10 |
| === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf | ||
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, I'm doing another couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb package, so I'll keep using my branch until we can merge it, ok? | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, yeah, thx | 16:12 |
| kenvandine | i am going to find someone that can help debug that later today | 16:12 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, cool, thanks | 16:12 |
| and471 | mpt: happy birthday! | 16:24 |
| mpt | Thanks and471 | 16:24 |
| mpt | Haven't seen you around for a while, how's things? | 16:24 |
| and471 | mpt: I have only 3 more exams left! (out of 17) | 16:24 |
| and471 | they have been going pretty well, so good! | 16:25 |
| and471 | mpt: and you? | 16:25 |
| and471 | mpt: I have been looking at some of your new work, really excited :-) (i.e. sound menu) | 16:25 |
| mpt | good good | 16:25 |
| and471 | after friday, I might be able to start doing some more work on software center (my next two exams are spread over 3 weeks...) | 16:26 |
| and471 | mpt, mvo: ^ if you will let me back.. :-( | 16:26 |
| mpt | I won't speak for mvo, but I'd be delighted | 16:27 |
| and471 | :-) | 16:27 |
| and471 | only joking :-) | 16:27 |
| and471 | mpt: I also might be working on a project of my own, but I shall definitely try to get back contributing to software-center | 16:27 |
| and471 | you have done LOADS since I stopped :-) | 16:28 |
| mvo | and471: welcome back! | 16:29 |
| and471 | mov: hiya! | 16:29 |
| and471 | oops mvo: hiya! | 16:29 |
| and471 | well I am back after friday... just popping on to wish mpt a happy birthday | 16:29 |
| and471 | but I have maths tomorrow - which is easy | 16:29 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, another bzr in maverick breakage? It tries to get couchdb-glib_0.6.92.orig.tar.gz as the upstream tarball ?? | 16:36 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, ^^ | 16:36 |
| kenvandine | what's wrong with that? | 16:37 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, the tarball is couchdb-glib-0.6.92.tar.gz | 16:37 |
| rodrigo_ | without the orig | 16:37 |
| rodrigo_ | but it seems it's just contacting the out-of-date mirror | 16:37 |
| rodrigo_ | so seems a false alarm, sorry :D | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | ok :) | 16:38 |
| jpds | rodrigo_: Which mirror? | 16:38 |
| rodrigo_ | jpds, gnome ftp mirror | 16:38 |
| jpds | Ah, OK. | 16:38 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, yeah, false alarm indeed, it now gets it correctly :) | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | great :) | 16:45 |
| seb128 | slomo, hey | 16:51 |
| seb128 | slomo, speaking about gtk and gir, what do you think about making gtk in experimental build its gir? the ubuntu change is in the bts if you want to use it | 16:52 |
| seb128 | slomo, it depends on doing that for atk and pango before though, changes for that are in the bts as well | 16:52 |
| slomo | seb128: sounds good, just needs someone to do it ;) | 16:53 |
| vish | seb128: hi.. when is shotwell , replacing F-spot? [or has it already replaced] | 16:54 |
| seb128 | vish, hi, when it's ready | 16:56 |
| vish | ;p | 16:56 |
| seb128 | vish, check with robert_ancell when he's around or check the blueprint work items | 16:56 |
| vish | seb128: will do thanks... someone said that was scrapped and f-spot was being used for M , hence the confusion started | 16:57 |
| seb128 | you should not read what random someones say on the internet though ;-) | 16:58 |
| vish | :D | 16:58 |
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| zyga | mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447835/ | 17:39 |
| zyga | mvo, software-center 2.1.1 | 17:40 |
| zyga | file it? | 17:40 |
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| hyperair | anyone here familiar with udev? | 18:14 |
| * hyperair needs a udev rule that matches all ipods and runs "podsleuth --rescan" | 18:14 | |
| mvo | zyga: please try 2.1.2 (uploaded today) | 18:20 |
| zyga | mvo, I just did but that earlier bug was not so easy to reproduce | 18:20 |
| zyga | mvo, IMHO it was a race of some sort | 18:20 |
| zyga | the UI was in flux when that occured | 18:20 |
| zyga | mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447846/ | 18:24 |
| zyga | mvo, once you click on the 'share via microblog' link | 18:24 |
| zyga | mvo, (I was searching for getting things gnome) -- for context | 18:24 |
| mvo | zyga: thanks, that looks like a bug for kenvandine :) | 18:28 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 18:28 |
| * kenvandine should upload a fix for that :) | 18:29 | |
| zyga | kenvandine, it might be just my local installation | 18:29 |
| zyga | kenvandine, none of this social stuff really works on my computer, it keeps crashing on startup | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | zyga, that is fixed with the latest kernel | 18:29 |
| * zyga runs gwibber | 18:30 | |
| kenvandine | but this bug is real... just need to upload a fix | 18:30 |
| zyga | indeed! | 18:30 |
| zyga | cool | 18:30 |
| zyga | :-) | 18:30 |
| * zyga runs away, see you guys | 18:30 | |
| kenvandine | zyga, fix uploaded to maverick | 18:35 |
| mvo | thanks kenvandine! | 18:45 |
| kenvandine | np | 18:46 |
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| jcastro | tremolux: you are on a roll today! | 20:28 |
| tremolux | jcastro: wazzat? | 20:29 |
| jcastro | tremolux: just noticing a ton of your work scrolling by in my launchpad folder! | 20:29 |
| tremolux | jcastro: ahh :) | 20:30 |
| tremolux | jcastro: well thanks! | 20:30 |
| LaserJock | jcastro: you know if anybody has done a greader messaging menu app? | 20:31 |
| jcastro | LaserJock: doesn't ring a bell, I know someone ported liferea to app indicators | 20:32 |
| jcastro | LaserJock: if you see one lmk. Or better yet add it to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/Applications | 20:32 |
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| LaserJock | jcastro: I love the gmail one, but I get more greader "messages" than email so I'd like to see it done too | 20:38 |
| jcastro | I will keep an eye out for one | 20:42 |
| Daniel_Neel | Hello, I'm doing a bit of work on Ubuntu's Project Cleansweep and found a bug that could be pertinent to the Desktop Team. Here's the link to the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/351322 - as far as I know, the patch attached to the bug should work. However, I'm not sure whether the "problem" fixed with the patch is desirable. Would a member of the Desktop Team be able to take a look at the | 21:13 |
| Daniel_Neel | patch and either confirm that the patch is or isn't valid and desired, or point me to another source that would be able to make a decision regarding this matter? | 21:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 351322 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Make GNOME menu entry for Thunderbird consistent with Firefox, Evolution (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:13 |
| chrisccoulson | Daniel_Neel, thanks. i will discuss that with other members of the mozillateam first though before changing it, but I agree in principal | 21:17 |
| Daniel_Neel | Ok, good deal. Should I wait on a response from the mozillateam before taking further action on the bug or hold off and let you guys take care of it? | 21:20 |
| chrisccoulson | Daniel_Neel, yeah, there's no need to do anything else with it atm | 21:21 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 21:21 |
| Daniel_Neel | Alrighty, sounds good then, thanks for the help. | 21:21 |
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| chrisccoulson | i'm sure the lucid kernel is leaking memory like crazy :/ | 21:32 |
| * didrocks waves goodnight | 21:44 | |
| i_need_a_dev | hello desktop team | 23:59 |
| i_need_a_dev | any dev here? | 23:59 |
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