[15:47] <shtylman> cjwatson: if I wish to preseed packages that I would install during normal system operation (i.e. by apt-get .. etc) ... where would I put the .conf files for the packages?
[15:48] <shtylman> I see information about preseeding during install time, but very little about preseeding things after the fact
[16:18] <cjwatson> you mean doing preseeding after you've installed the system?
[16:38] <shtylman> cjwatson: yea
[16:39] <shtylman> I can do debconf-set-selections and pass a file to it
[16:39] <shtylman> would that be the right thing to do?
[16:42] <cjwatson> yep, that's exactly right
[16:42] <shtylman> kk
[17:22] <shtylman> cjwatson: is it possible (in a preseed file) to use string replacing? i.e. when setting up postfix, it asks for the mailname ... by default this is the hostname ... can I tell the preseed to use that an not ask me? or something along those lines?
[17:23] <cjwatson> not in general, at least not with post-installation preseeding.  you'll just have to generate the preseed file dynamically.
[17:24] <cjwatson> in this specific case, 'postfix postfix/mailname seen true' (or whatever the question is called) may help, although it may not.  it depends on the package.  if the package explicitly does db_fset $whatever false, then preseeding can't help.
[17:24] <shtylman> I see... and no way to just use the default value?
[17:24] <cjwatson> that's what 'seen true' does, if it's possible.
[17:24] <shtylman> ahh k
[17:24] <shtylman> I will try thank... thanks :)
[17:24] <cjwatson> you could also increase the debconf priority.  Surely that question isn't asked at priority critical?
[17:25] <shtylman> not sure what that means.... :/
[17:25] <cjwatson> dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[17:26] <cjwatson> also  man 7 debconf
[17:26] <shtylman> k
[17:33] <shtylman> when I try seen, it says "cannot find a question for postfix/mailname" ...
[17:33] <cjwatson> I didn't know what the question name was
[17:33] <cjwatson> that's why I said "or whatever the question is called"
[17:34] <cjwatson> it was an example, you were meant to fill in the right name :)
[17:34] <shtylman> but postfix/mailname is the right question :)
[17:34] <shtylman> at least debconf-show shows it on another machine
[17:35] <shtylman> this is before postfix is installed obviously... so I guess it can't do seen cause it doesn't know about the question... ?
[17:36] <cjwatson> well, this is unnecessary anyway - postfix/mailname is asked at priority high, so just set your priority to critical and you won't see it.
[17:36] <cjwatson> but I think that might technically be a debconf bug
[17:37] <shtylman> is it safe to override the priority like that? I suppose if you know you have other config files copied over later..
[17:37] <shtylman> but potentially it leaves gaps in the config no?
[17:37] <cjwatson> totally standard
[17:37] <cjwatson> lots of people do it
[17:37] <shtylman> gotcha
[17:50] <superm1> cjwatson, probably a moot point with the impending switch to grub2 on cds, but why was isolinux/text.cfg renamed to isolinux/txt.cfg?
[17:53] <cjwatson> Debian change
[17:53] <cjwatson>   * Rename syslinux *text.cfg files to *txt.cfg. This is needed because
[17:53] <cjwatson>     adamdtext.cfg is one character too long which means it was never actually
[17:53] <cjwatson>     included in the menu for multi-arch images.
[17:53] <cjwatson> not worth undoing for Ubuntu even though it doesn't matter for us
[17:56]  * cjwatson tries to perform an install entirely blind given that his console doesn't work
[17:56] <cjwatson> I have to say, not very impressed with the ease of use of EFI so far
[17:57] <cjwatson> though maybe it's just TianoCore, which is hideously slow
[18:01] <superm1> ah, that makes sense
[18:01] <superm1> i've only tried the tianocore implementation too, and agree it's pretty slow
[18:03] <cjwatson> I think it's probably a grub2 problem that means I don't get a framebuffer; vga16fb has ended up loaded here which obviously isn't going to work
[18:04] <cjwatson> so I preseeded everything in sight and told it to use network-console, so that I can at least ssh in and investigate
[18:19] <CIA-8> libdebian-installer: cjwatson * r209 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog src/system/subarch-x86-linux.c): archdetect: Add the i386/efi and amd64/efi platforms.
[18:20] <CIA-8> libdebian-installer: cjwatson * r210 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.69ubuntu2
[18:21] <CIA-8> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r726 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog lib/disk-label.sh):
[18:21] <CIA-8> partman-partitioning: Use the GPT disk label by default on *i386/efi and *amd64/efi
[18:21] <CIA-8> partman-partitioning: subarchitectures.
[18:22] <CIA-8> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r727 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 74ubuntu2
[20:36] <gnude> hello, following problem: installing ubuntu 10.04 without internet connection. so the normal system comes to harddisk. when i open synaptic i see no more packages, but there are many more on the dvd. i could not add the cd to the system . with ubuntu 8.04 i could install from dvd, then open synaptic and add more softwar from the dvd