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dakergodbyk, can we run a django site on our server ?00:11
dakergodbyk-sagan, can we run a django site on our server ?00:12
dakerdid any one know how can i make a menu like this http://imagebin.org/10069300:38
daker?00:39
dakerhumphreybc-mini, http://imagebin.org/10068001:22
humphreybcdaker: so what's that image?01:58
dakereuh, for that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperationCleansweep02:01
humphreybcgroovy02:01
humphreybcdid you make it?02:01
dakeryeah02:01
humphreybchave you sent it to Daniel02:01
humphreybc?02:01
humphreybcEmail it to him :)02:02
humphreybcdaniel.holbach@canonical.com02:02
dakeri am waiting for him02:02
humphreybcah okay02:02
dakeri am working on something like that http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/facebook-notifier-ubuntu-messaging-menu.html02:04
humphreybc:)02:05
dakeractualy i can fetch notifications (pokes, messages, etc), uploads pictures, fetching albums02:05
humphreybcI'm just about to start making some advertisements for USLC02:05
humphreybcyou rock daker02:06
dakerYEAH02:06
godbyk-saganhumphreybc: advertisements?02:07
humphreybcoh shit I just realised I need to schedule a meeting for this weekend02:07
godbyk-saganhumphreybc: yeah, you do! :)02:07
humphreybcgodbyk-sagan: yeah, just banners for posts and things on OMG and the planet to attract attention so we can get some developers02:07
* humphreybc does that now02:07
humphreybcgimme some agenda items02:08
humphreybchttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/Meetings02:11
humphreybcJust add whatever you think we need to talk about02:12
dakerhumphreybc, have you finished the new mockups ?02:13
humphreybcdaker: No sorry, not yet. Been busy with exams :)02:14
dakerno problem02:15
humphreybcI'll have em done in a couple of weeks02:15
godbyk-saganwe need to talk about lucid-e1 translation releases02:15
godbyk-saganlucid-e2 stuff02:15
humphreybcadd that then :)02:15
godbyk-saganmaybe even maverick stuff.02:15
nisshhdammit, humphreybc i wont make it to a saturday night meeting02:18
nisshhonly night im going to a party and we have a meeting on, how freaking typical02:18
godbyk-sagannisshh: Guess you'll have to reschedule your party so you can attend ours. :)02:20
humphreybchahaha02:20
nisshhgodbyk-sagan: haha, funny02:21
nisshhoh that reminds me godbyk-sagan there is a question on launchpad that is still unanswered, its about when the german of e1 will be released, apparently its completed02:24
godbyk-saganI think I've answered that question in various places about a bazillion times now. :)02:25
nisshhhehe02:25
humphreybcmaybe you should register www.isthegermantranslationoftheubuntumanualdoneyet.com02:25
nisshhyour not ranting are you?02:25
godbyk-saganhumphreybc: lol. no doubt. :)02:25
nisshhhumphreybc: lol02:25
godbyk-sagannisshh: me? never! :)02:25
godbyk-sagannisshh: Just don't be the next person to ask me about it. <grin>02:26
nisshhhumphreybc: i saw your rant on omgubuntu the other day02:26
nisshhgodbyk-sagan: hehe, dont worry i fear thee :)02:26
* nisshh fears the wrath of godbyk-sagan 02:27
humphreybchttp://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-ad.png02:40
godbyk-saganhumphreybc: pff! :)02:40
dakercan you the dark color ?02:41
dakerchange02:41
humphreybcrefresh02:50
dakerneat02:50
daker:)02:50
humphreybcDo you like the font colours?02:51
humphreybcSurprisingly, that's not actually the new Ubuntu font02:51
humphreybcThat's a commercial font called "Corisande" that looks awfully similar02:51
humphreybcrefresh and you'll see the new ubuntu font instead02:53
dakergreat02:53
dakergodbyk-sagan, you didn't answer my question02:56
dakercan we run a django site on our server ?02:56
humphreybchttp://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-ad2.png02:58
dakergood02:59
humphreybcdaker: after we redesign the new site, I want to have this image as the "splash screen" of the site when people visit: http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-ad2.png03:10
dakeroki03:18
humphreybcactually daker, if you want you can put this in front of the current website now03:27
humphreybchttp://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-web.png03:27
godbyk-saganhumphreybc: I wouldn't put that on the main site yet.03:32
godbyk-saganI think it'd confuse the newbies that we try to attract to our site.03:32
godbyk-saganIf you want to attract developers, post it in places where the developers hang out (which isn't our site).03:33
humphreybctrue03:33
humphreybcI'll think about it03:33
humphreybc:)03:33
godbyk-saganI'll think about overruling you. ;-)03:35
godbyk-saganOkay, so I've just finished installing Ubuntu Netbook Edition on my brand new netbook.03:35
godbyk-saganWhat should I do with it now?03:35
humphreybcuninstall it03:35
dakerhhhhhhhhhhhhh03:36
humphreybcseriously, it sucks03:36
humphreybcyou're better off using regular Ubuntu03:36
humphreybcthe window manager is terrible03:36
godbyk-saganyeah, I'm noticing that. :)03:36
godbyk-sagancan I install the normal stuff from here or is it better if I just do a fresh install with the desktop edition?03:37
humphreybcjust remove the netbook edition stuff03:37
humphreybcyou already have GNOME anyway03:37
humphreybcyou can change it when you log in03:37
humphreybcchoose a different session :)03:37
humphreybcbut if you remove all the netbook shit, it will remove the netbook thing from the session list03:37
godbyk-sagando you remember the package name for the netbook stuff?03:38
humphreybcnah03:38
humphreybcjust search synaptic for netbook03:38
humphreybcremove anything associated :)03:38
godbyk-sagannetbook-launcher, I think.03:39
humphreybcyeah03:40
humphreybcyou'l have to remove the netbook default settings and stuff too03:40
godbyk-saganuninstalling03:40
godbyk-saganyeah, I saw those, too.03:40
humphreybcHmm03:41
humphreybcI can't decide... rounded corners or sharp corners03:41
godbyk-saganOkay, I've got my GNOME desktop again.  Yay!03:41
godbyk-saganyou're already using multiple drop shadows. :)03:42
humphreybcno not for that03:42
humphreybcLemme show you :)03:42
humphreybcdrop shadows make awesome subtle framing03:42
humphreybcok03:44
humphreybchttp://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/rounded.png or http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/sharp.png03:44
dakerthe first one03:46
dakeris better03:46
humphreybcI was thinking we could have it slide out when the mouse goes up there03:46
humphreybcJust need to figure out how the user will know about it03:46
humphreybcMaybe have it popped out for about 30 seconds when they first visit the site, then it slides away03:47
godbyk-saganI think our definitions of the word 'subtle' must differ. ;-)03:47
humphreybcwhat do you think about the sliding action Kevin?03:47
godbyk-saganI like the first one better (rounded corners).  But the drop-shadow on the non-rounded corners just looks wrong.03:48
godbyk-saganI think it needs to be a lot more discoverable than that.03:48
humphreybcyeah, I know03:48
godbyk-saganI mean search is going to be probably the primary way people will find info on that site.03:48
godbyk-saganSo I'd have a big ol' search box smack in the middle of the page or something. :)03:49
humphreybcThat's why I reckon it could pop down for the first 30 seconds when they visit a page03:49
humphreybcand then slide up03:49
godbyk-saganBtw, isn't 'About Us' and 'The Team' the same thing?03:49
godbyk-sagannah, I don't think it'll be noticeable enough.03:49
humphreybcwe could just have a very large activation area03:49
humphreybcI could make it orange?03:49
godbyk-saganthe whole page is pseudo-animated when it's loading anyway, if your connection is slower.03:49
humphreybcWell, The Team is the credits of people who have contributed, whereas about us is more about the history of the TEAM and what the team does, where you can find us etc. I might change "The Team" wording to "Credits" or "Contributors" or something.03:50
humphreybcOf course, it doesn't HAVE to pop out03:51
humphreybcI just thought that could be neat :P03:51
humphreybcSo we like the rounded one?03:51
dakeri like it03:52
dakerone thing for the link should be reversed we hover it03:53
humphreybcNow to figure out where to put our social media links like facebook and twitter03:53
dakersomething like this http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/z7VU4/hash/66ad7upf.png03:53
humphreybcHmm03:57
humphreybcWhere to put the facebook and twitter icons03:57
dakerin the trash :p03:57
humphreybcol03:57
humphreybclol03:57
humphreybcI honestly have no idea where to put them03:58
dakerfor twitter put it on the left of the search bar03:59
dakeror on the bottom03:59
humphreybcwhat ever happened to the show us ya bugs competition?04:01
humphreybcI had one person email me telling me they got 10 reported and confirmed04:01
dakerYa time to sleep04:07
dakergood night04:07
humphreybcsee ya daker!04:07
godbyk-saganhumphreybc: well, it was your competition, so you should know. :)04:09
godbyk-saganI just fixed bugs.04:09
nisshhhumphreybc: where is the new version of the website, so i can have a look04:23
nisshhor is it not up on the net yet?04:23
humphreybcnisshh: I'm still making it04:27
humphreybcGive you a preview in a sec04:27
nisshhcool04:27
nisshhmaybe i can find a place for that damn twitter button?04:28
humphreybchaha04:29
nisshhactually, arent we on identica too?04:29
humphreybcyeah04:32
humphreybcbut no one uses that... cough04:32
* nisshh puts his hand up!04:32
nisshhi do!04:32
nisshhi heard the perfect description of twitter the other day04:32
nisshhit was: "twitter is full of spammers, retards and advertising businesses"04:34
* humphreybc should be studying for his exam04:34
nisshhhehe04:34
* nisshh should be doing college work04:34
nisshhhows that preview coming along?04:35
nisshhhumphreybc: ^^04:35
nisshhhumphreybc: http://identi.ca/group/twitterfails04:38
humphreybcready to be amazed?04:40
* nisshh gets excited04:40
humphreybchttp://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-index.png04:40
humphreybchttp://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-about.png04:40
humphreybcoop04:41
humphreybcoops04:41
humphreybcnope04:41
humphreybcnevermind!04:41
* nisshh is confused04:41
humphreybchow?04:41
humphreybcthey're only mockups :)04:41
nisshhno its not that, you said oops right after04:42
humphreybcoh04:42
humphreybcyeah04:42
humphreybcI forgot to clear my cache04:42
humphreybcso it looked like my new changes hadn't worked04:42
humphreybcbut then I realized :)04:42
nisshhah04:42
humphreybchence the nevermind04:42
nisshhso they are the latest mockups?04:42
humphreybcyep04:43
humphreybcfresh outta photoshop :P04:43
nisshhcool04:43
godbyk-saganI think we should drop the features list from the front page and replace it with newsy stuff.04:43
humphreybcgodbyk-sagan: yeah, maybe04:44
humphreybcor at least until we actually get some features04:44
nisshhhumphreybc: features list on the download page?04:44
godbyk-saganon the index page04:45
godbyk-saganhttp://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-index.png04:45
nisshhafter it starts downloading it gives you a summary of the features or somthing04:45
godbyk-saganthe features there are useless. they're not meaningful to our intended audience.04:45
nisshhno, i was suggesting moving it04:45
godbyk-saganoh04:45
nisshhlike "heres your pdf and here are some cool facts about it04:46
nisshh"04:46
nisshhhumphreybc: i like the twitter feed thing down the bottom left, how did you do that?04:47
godbyk-sagannisshh: he created a textbox and typed in some text. ;-)04:47
godbyk-saganit's just a mockup in photoshop04:48
nisshhgodbyk-sagan: oh yea i forgot, ok let me rephrase that, humphreybc how are you going to do that?04:49
nisshhhumphreybc: also, what about putting the twitter and facebook icons under that twitter feed thing04:50
nisshhso it mirrors the bottom right kind of04:50
nisshhalso the "We need you!" sounds a bit desperate04:51
nisshhyou may as well say "You better fucking contribute!"04:51
nisshhffs, my isp is being a bitch today04:52
godbyk-saganmy net connection is being finicky right now, too.04:53
godbyk-sagannot sure what's up04:53
nisshhi can always blame it on my isp now since i use opendns for my dns lookups now04:54
humphreybcI like it how you forgot it was a mockup05:04
humphreybcit looks SO good :P05:04
humphreybcthe twitter thing is easy, it's just an RSS feed05:04
humphreybcsame as how boxee does it: http://www.boxee.tv/05:04
humphreybcI want to highlight the social sites, ie, somewhere near the top05:04
nisshhah ok05:05
humphreybcthere are already links on the bottom right05:05
nisshhyea i saw them after i said my suggestion05:05
humphreybcgodbyk-sagan: do you like the better name for the credits area?05:06
godbyk-saganit's still hard to know the diff between 'about us' (given its tagline) and contributors (given its tagline)05:18
humphreybcyeah05:19
humphreybcsuggestions?05:20
humphreybcAlso, I want to clean up the instructions page05:20
humphreybcMaybe we could have help overlays, like launchpad, instead of redirecting to a new page for each role05:20
nisshhhumphreybc: see my suggestion above about the contributors tagline05:20
humphreybcOf course, the taglines are just what came out of my brain when I was trying to fill in those spaces05:21
humphreybcthey're not essential to the design, and they can be easily changed :D05:21
godbyk-saganright05:21
godbyk-saganSo the 'About Us' page is about the project, and the 'Contributors' page is just the list of credits?05:22
humphreybcyes05:22
humphreybcsame as the current site05:22
humphreybcgo look at the current site :D05:22
godbyk-saganMaybe 'About Us' should have the tagline 'What we do'.05:23
humphreybcYeah05:23
humphreybcthat sounds better05:23
godbyk-saganAnd 'Contributors' could have 'Who we are'05:23
* humphreybc changes05:23
humphreybcokay05:24
humphreybcand what about for Download and Get Involved?05:24
humphreybcbear in mind that vish is going to give me some better icons soon, too.05:24
godbyk-sagansure05:25
godbyk-saganlet's see..05:25
godbyk-saganDownload: Our free manual05:26
godbyk-saganGet Involved: How you can help05:26
humphreybcI was hoping for slightly more enthusiastic imperatives here05:26
godbyk-saganyeah, I'm thinking..05:26
humphreybcAdvertising 101?05:26
godbyk-sagan(and trying to config my netbook at the same time.. so much to do!)05:27
humphreybcha05:27
godbyk-sagan'download' and 'get involved' are already imperatives.05:28
humphreybctue.05:28
humphreybctrue*05:28
humphreybcmaybe they need an exclamation mark...05:28
godbyk-saganso the taglines for those don't have to be verbs.05:28
godbyk-saganlol05:29
godbyk-saganexclamation marks, drop shadows, animations, bling!05:29
humphreybcyes!05:29
godbyk-saganyou could have the download arrow spin in circles05:29
humphreybcalthough not outer glows.05:29
humphreybcthey're hidious05:29
godbyk-saganlol05:29
humphreybchideous *05:29
humphreybchahaha05:29
humphreybcyes05:29
godbyk-saganoh, that's where you draw the line, eh?05:29
humphreybcI could have some exciting black/white flashing at 500 FPS05:29
godbyk-sagansee how epileptic fits we can induce?05:30
humphreybcyep05:30
godbyk-saganah, man. I'm gonna have to go to sleep soon if I'm going to be up in time for that ayatana meeting.05:32
godbyk-saganI should adjust my availability time for that.05:32
godbyk-sagangetting up for a 7 a.m. meeting isn't fun.05:32
godbyk-sagansadly, after that meeting, I have another meeting at 9:30.05:32
godbyk-saganI can't win.05:32
humphreybcI aint gonna be there, exam tomorrow05:32
humphreybcwell05:32
humphreybcI might be if i'm still around05:32
humphreybcbut I'm going to try to go to sleep early05:32
godbyk-saganI was half awake during the last one, but stay in bed.05:33
godbyk-saganjust read the messages on my phone as they came by.05:33
godbyk-sagan:)05:33
nisshhwhat do you guys think of my blogs new look: https://freakaboutlinux.wordpress.com/05:36
godbyk-sagangreat. I can't remember my launchpad pwd.05:37
nisshhgodbyk-sagan: hehe05:38
humphreybclooks cool Ryan!05:39
humphreybcnot so keen on the red rollovers05:39
nisshhthey are a bit bright arent they?05:39
nisshhblood red color05:39
nisshhi dont think i can change that in css05:40
humphreybcI don't think you need a diagonal line pattern on the selected page tab05:40
nisshhhumphreybc: its a preset theme05:40
humphreybcOhhh05:40
humphreybcI thought you made it :D05:40
nisshhhehe, i wish :)05:40
humphreybcI like the stuff on the left05:40
nisshhill see what i can change with css05:40
* humphreybc likes it how my post is now rated 10/10 on omgubuntu05:41
nisshhhehe, your rant, i thought that was cool05:41
nisshhaw shit, i have to pay to have custom css on my blog05:42
humphreybcoh yeah05:42
nisshhno freaking way05:42
humphreybcI remember that with wordpress :D05:42
* humphreybc is really overusing the :D smiley today05:42
* nisshh thinks humphreybc is a smiley fanboy05:43
* nisshh also just hit 200 pageviews thismorning05:43
humphreybcyay!05:43
nisshhyea, i suppose, thats 200 after 5 months of blogging05:44
nisshhalthough 8 posts is not much05:44
nisshhsorry 9 posts05:45
godbyk-saganOkay, I'm off to bed.05:51
nisshhgodbyk-sagan: ok, gnight05:51
humphreybcnighy05:53
* nisshh is hungry, he goes foraging05:53
nisshhhumphreybc: are we going to hold another 48-hours irc event again?08:06
ubuntujenkinsmorning all09:01
thorwilgood morning!09:11
ubuntujenkinshello thorwil how are you?09:12
thorwilubuntujenkins: i'm fine, wrestling with html and css. and you?09:13
ubuntujenkinsthorwil: I am good got one more exam to do, playing with doing the index in tamil09:14
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc: please can you answer https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+question/112203 I guess the most suitble would be when the editing is finished11:13
ubuntujenkinsI can think of a nice way to write that11:13
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk and godbyk-sagan  I have e-mailed the xindy mailing list as there have been a few problems with the rules we shall see what they say11:35
dakerhumphreybc, have you found a place for facebook & twitter icons ?11:49
thorwilhi daker. have a look at http://code.google.com/p/hyphenator/, please. i'm using it for a site in development already and i think ubuntu-manual.org would benefit from it, too11:56
dakerhaha11:58
dakergreat  yes11:58
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc-mini: did you see my mention about that question on launchpad?12:09
humphreybc-miniyes, briefly. Could you paste it again please?12:10
humphreybc-miniand daker, nope, haven't worked on them again since you hit the sack :)12:10
ubuntujenkinshttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+question/112203 thanks12:10
humphreybc-miniAnswered it12:16
ubuntujenkinsthanks humphreybc-mini12:44
=== \vish is now known as vish
ubuntujenkinsjust read in #ubuntu "<Dr_Willis> I think they need to put a link to the ubuntu manual right in the middle of the desktop. :)"14:38
nisshhhehe14:39
dakerhaha14:39
godbyk-saganlol14:41
dakerlook women website is very poor http://women.ubuntu.com/15:02
nisshhdaker: holy crap, that is terrible15:05
dakeryeah15:08
hannieWhat is CTCP VERSION?15:28
nisshhhannie: is the frigg bot asking you for it?15:30
hannieYes15:31
dakerhannie, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect15:37
hannieThanks, I'll read it15:38
nisshhall it does is ask your irc client for its version and name15:38
nisshhnothing to worry about really15:38
hannieI won't ;)15:41
dakernisshh, he must worry :)15:42
dakerCTCP request is very bad15:43
hannieShe15:43
dakero.O sorry :)15:44
dakershe must worry15:44
hannieI cannot find much help in the faq about this15:44
nisshhlol, i had it requesting me for like 2 months, now its stopped15:44
nisshhthere is one paragraph that tells you what it does15:45
hannieUpdate your client regularly to avoid security problems, and don't be too worried unless they're doing more than just CTCP VERSION, or doing it over and over.15:47
hannieI use Qwebirq15:48
daker* if you are running an old version, there is a good chance that it can be hacked15:48
daker* by checking your CTCP version, they can 'guess' your operating system15:48
hannieSo I should update qwebirq?15:49
dakerno qwebirq is web apps15:50
hannieUnder Options I cannot find a way to turn off CTCP VERSION15:50
hannieI will install another irc client then15:50
dakeryes with an irc client(like xchat) you can turn off them or just fake them15:52
hannieOk, thanks for your help. I am going to install xchat.15:52
dakerhaha ubuntujenkins look http://bobbo.me.uk/16:00
ubuntujenkinsdaker: I see a progress bar that looks like i have seen it before16:01
daker\o/16:03
ubuntujenkinshow does the progress thing work?16:05
dakershould ask vish16:07
ubuntujenkins?mppa16:10
ubuntujenkins?mppa16:11
quickshotdevsubuntujenkins: Error: "mppa" is not a valid command.16:11
ubuntujenkins?manualppa16:11
quickshotdevsubuntujenkins: Error: "manualppa" is not a valid command.16:11
ubuntujenkins?mtppa16:11
quickshotdevsubuntujenkins: Error: "mtppa" is not a valid command.16:11
ubuntujenkins?tppa16:11
quickshotdevsubuntujenkins: Error: "tppa" is not a valid command.16:11
dakerubuntujenkins, you will become crasy with quickshotdevs16:12
ubuntujenkinsI thought i tought it the manual latex ppa stuff now i can't rember the factoid16:13
vishubuntujenkins: daker is not human ;p16:14
dakerhhhhh16:20
dakerhttp://www.geekosystem.com/0888-888-888/16:48
dakerubuntujenkins, http://bobbo.me.uk/index.php/planet-ubuntu/operation-cleansweep-day-four-update17:29
ubuntujenkinsdaker: yey for the post17:31
=== daker_ is now known as daker
* daker is on the planet18:07
dakerubuntujenkins, did you know how can i make something like this http://imagebin.org/10069319:07
ubuntujenkins daker no not a clue you could probably use alacarte to make a custom menu but it would never look as good as that19:09
dakeri want to make an input inside a menuitem19:09
ubuntujenkinsi see i guess you could try and find the memenu code in launchpad19:10
ubuntujenkinsdaker: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/indicator-me19:11
nisshhdaker: its probably a custom gtk widget19:13
dakerit's programmed with C19:14
dakernot python :s19:14
nisshhdaker: yea, gtk is written in C, it has a python wrapper19:16
nisshhhence the python-gtk package19:17
dakeri was talking about the memenu19:19
nisshhdaker: ah, i take it you only know python then?19:20
dakera little of python19:20
nisshhno C?19:20
nisshhanyway iv gotta get some sleep19:21
ubuntujenkinsnight nisshh19:21
nisshhcya dude19:21
daker\o/19:21
dakerwell the idea is to make GtkTextView in GtkMenu19:30
dakerhow ? i don't know :)19:30
paultagHey manual hackers, I need a LaTeX guru who knows how to embed SVG in LaTeX, if they have time21:59
paultagit's driving me up a wall :)21:59
ubuntujenkinspaultag: I am not our latex guru but http://amath.colorado.edu/documentation/LaTeX/reference/figures.html at the bottom appears to make sense . What have you tried so far?22:03
paultagwhen you do an   \includegraphics{*.svg} latex barfs22:03
dutchieyou probably need to \includepackage{graphicx} or some such22:03
paultag! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .svg.22:03
manualbotpaultag: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:03
paultagdutchie, it includes pngs great22:03
paultag( and not I'm not using a literal *.svg, it's a path to the file, sans extention22:05
paultagsorry, with extn22:05
dutchiepaultag: looks like you have to convert the svg into eps22:05
paultagGrr. OK. Thanks dutchie22:06
c7pnight all22:06
dutchiepaultag: maybe see if godbyk-sagan can answer though. He's the real latex guru22:06
paultagdutchie, sure, I'll just hang out and see if any gurus can shed some light. I'm not going anywhere :)22:06
paultagdutchie, thank you for your time :)22:06
ubuntujenkinsyea I suggest converting it as well22:07
ubuntujenkinspaultag: there is a #latex on freenode by the way22:10
paultagubuntujenkins, I was recommended here by doctormo22:10
paultagubuntujenkins, noted. I won't bug ya'll any longer. Thanks again22:10
* ubuntujenkins thought it would be a quicker way to get an answer. I was not telling him to leave :/22:12
ubuntujenkinspm'd him to say he is welcome to stay22:15
godbyk-saganD'oh! I missed him by 13 minutes.22:23
godbyk-saganIn case I'm not around when he comes back:22:24
godbyk-saganI don't think the LaTeX can handle SVGs directly. They have to be transformed to eps or pdf.22:24
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk-sagan: he said he might pm you in an hour if he did not work it out22:25
godbyk-saganOkay, that's cool.22:25
godbyk-saganI just got the parts for my new computer, so I'm trying to piece it together now.22:26
dutchie"only" 6 exams left22:26
ubuntujenkinsoooo shiny22:26
ubuntujenkinshas only 1 exam left22:26
* godbyk-sagan has no exams left -- ever! Whee!22:26
dutchietotal exam time: 1.5 + 2 + 3 + 1.5 + 3 + 2 = 13 hours22:27
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk-sagan: I am in a mailing list discussion on making xindy-rules and were are gettting there. there is one issue of one part only supports about 200 letters and we have more in tamil. Not sure which bit it is yet I am trying to establish it22:27
godbyk-saganubuntujenkins: Oh, wow! So it's a lot more of a pain than I anticipated.22:29
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk-sagan: they are very helpful, also as far as i can tell there is no documenation about it. I found out all the stuff i know from old mailing list stuff.22:31
godbyk-saganYeah, I thought there'd be more documentation, too.  They had kind of a quick overview on the web page, but I couldn't find links to the more detailed docs I expected to find.22:32
godbyk-saganHopefully you're taking notes as you go along.22:32
godbyk-saganYou'll notice that the number of languages xindy supports is far fewer than the number of translations people have started for our manual. :)22:32
ubuntujenkinsyea I did say I was happy to add our rules to their upstream so it gets back to the package eventually22:34
* ubuntujenkins wishes dutchie luck in his exams22:35
godbyk-saganha! this doesn't bode well.22:35
godbyk-saganI'm flipping through the motherboard manual to make sure there's nothing important I'm forgetting.22:36
dutchiehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBhOB7CfUoY !22:36
godbyk-saganand the music playing in the background switches to the Indiana Jones theme.22:36
ubuntujenkinsdutchie: that is crazy22:37
ubuntujenkinsnight all23:31
dakergood night ubuntujenkins23:31

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