[00:11] godbyk, can we run a django site on our server ? [00:12] godbyk-sagan, can we run a django site on our server ? [00:38] did any one know how can i make a menu like this http://imagebin.org/100693 [00:39] ? [01:22] humphreybc-mini, http://imagebin.org/100680 [01:58] daker: so what's that image? [02:01] euh, for that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperationCleansweep [02:01] groovy [02:01] did you make it? [02:01] yeah [02:01] have you sent it to Daniel [02:01] ? [02:02] Email it to him :) [02:02] daniel.holbach@canonical.com [02:02] i am waiting for him [02:02] ah okay [02:04] i am working on something like that http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/facebook-notifier-ubuntu-messaging-menu.html [02:05] :) [02:05] actualy i can fetch notifications (pokes, messages, etc), uploads pictures, fetching albums [02:05] I'm just about to start making some advertisements for USLC [02:06] you rock daker [02:06] YEAH [02:07] humphreybc: advertisements? [02:07] oh shit I just realised I need to schedule a meeting for this weekend [02:07] humphreybc: yeah, you do! :) [02:07] godbyk-sagan: yeah, just banners for posts and things on OMG and the planet to attract attention so we can get some developers [02:07] * humphreybc does that now [02:08] gimme some agenda items [02:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/Meetings [02:12] Just add whatever you think we need to talk about [02:13] humphreybc, have you finished the new mockups ? [02:14] daker: No sorry, not yet. Been busy with exams :) [02:15] no problem [02:15] I'll have em done in a couple of weeks [02:15] we need to talk about lucid-e1 translation releases [02:15] lucid-e2 stuff [02:15] add that then :) [02:15] maybe even maverick stuff. [02:18] dammit, humphreybc i wont make it to a saturday night meeting [02:18] only night im going to a party and we have a meeting on, how freaking typical [02:20] nisshh: Guess you'll have to reschedule your party so you can attend ours. :) [02:20] hahaha [02:21] godbyk-sagan: haha, funny [02:24] oh that reminds me godbyk-sagan there is a question on launchpad that is still unanswered, its about when the german of e1 will be released, apparently its completed [02:25] I think I've answered that question in various places about a bazillion times now. :) [02:25] hehe [02:25] maybe you should register www.isthegermantranslationoftheubuntumanualdoneyet.com [02:25] your not ranting are you? [02:25] humphreybc: lol. no doubt. :) [02:25] humphreybc: lol [02:25] nisshh: me? never! :) [02:26] nisshh: Just don't be the next person to ask me about it. [02:26] humphreybc: i saw your rant on omgubuntu the other day [02:26] godbyk-sagan: hehe, dont worry i fear thee :) [02:27] * nisshh fears the wrath of godbyk-sagan [02:40] http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-ad.png [02:40] humphreybc: pff! :) [02:41] can you the dark color ? [02:41] change [02:50] refresh [02:50] neat [02:50] :) [02:51] Do you like the font colours? [02:51] Surprisingly, that's not actually the new Ubuntu font [02:51] That's a commercial font called "Corisande" that looks awfully similar [02:53] refresh and you'll see the new ubuntu font instead [02:53] great [02:56] godbyk-sagan, you didn't answer my question [02:56] can we run a django site on our server ? [02:58] http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-ad2.png [02:59] good [03:10] daker: after we redesign the new site, I want to have this image as the "splash screen" of the site when people visit: http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-ad2.png [03:18] oki [03:27] actually daker, if you want you can put this in front of the current website now [03:27] http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/uslc-web.png [03:32] humphreybc: I wouldn't put that on the main site yet. [03:32] I think it'd confuse the newbies that we try to attract to our site. [03:33] If you want to attract developers, post it in places where the developers hang out (which isn't our site). [03:33] true [03:33] I'll think about it [03:33] :) [03:35] I'll think about overruling you. ;-) [03:35] Okay, so I've just finished installing Ubuntu Netbook Edition on my brand new netbook. [03:35] What should I do with it now? [03:35] uninstall it [03:36] hhhhhhhhhhhhh [03:36] seriously, it sucks [03:36] you're better off using regular Ubuntu [03:36] the window manager is terrible [03:36] yeah, I'm noticing that. :) [03:37] can I install the normal stuff from here or is it better if I just do a fresh install with the desktop edition? [03:37] just remove the netbook edition stuff [03:37] you already have GNOME anyway [03:37] you can change it when you log in [03:37] choose a different session :) [03:37] but if you remove all the netbook shit, it will remove the netbook thing from the session list [03:38] do you remember the package name for the netbook stuff? [03:38] nah [03:38] just search synaptic for netbook [03:38] remove anything associated :) [03:39] netbook-launcher, I think. [03:40] yeah [03:40] you'l have to remove the netbook default settings and stuff too [03:40] uninstalling [03:40] yeah, I saw those, too. [03:41] Hmm [03:41] I can't decide... rounded corners or sharp corners [03:41] Okay, I've got my GNOME desktop again. Yay! [03:42] you're already using multiple drop shadows. :) [03:42] no not for that [03:42] Lemme show you :) [03:42] drop shadows make awesome subtle framing [03:44] ok [03:44] http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/rounded.png or http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/sharp.png [03:46] the first one [03:46] is better [03:46] I was thinking we could have it slide out when the mouse goes up there [03:46] Just need to figure out how the user will know about it [03:47] Maybe have it popped out for about 30 seconds when they first visit the site, then it slides away [03:47] I think our definitions of the word 'subtle' must differ. ;-) [03:47] what do you think about the sliding action Kevin? [03:48] I like the first one better (rounded corners). But the drop-shadow on the non-rounded corners just looks wrong. [03:48] I think it needs to be a lot more discoverable than that. [03:48] yeah, I know [03:48] I mean search is going to be probably the primary way people will find info on that site. [03:49] So I'd have a big ol' search box smack in the middle of the page or something. :) [03:49] That's why I reckon it could pop down for the first 30 seconds when they visit a page [03:49] and then slide up [03:49] Btw, isn't 'About Us' and 'The Team' the same thing? [03:49] nah, I don't think it'll be noticeable enough. [03:49] we could just have a very large activation area [03:49] I could make it orange? [03:49] the whole page is pseudo-animated when it's loading anyway, if your connection is slower. [03:50] Well, The Team is the credits of people who have contributed, whereas about us is more about the history of the TEAM and what the team does, where you can find us etc. I might change "The Team" wording to "Credits" or "Contributors" or something. [03:51] Of course, it doesn't HAVE to pop out [03:51] I just thought that could be neat :P [03:51] So we like the rounded one? [03:52] i like it [03:53] one thing for the link should be reversed we hover it [03:53] Now to figure out where to put our social media links like facebook and twitter [03:53] something like this http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/z7VU4/hash/66ad7upf.png [03:57] Hmm [03:57] Where to put the facebook and twitter icons [03:57] in the trash :p [03:57] ol [03:57] lol [03:58] I honestly have no idea where to put them [03:59] for twitter put it on the left of the search bar [03:59] or on the bottom [04:01] what ever happened to the show us ya bugs competition? [04:01] I had one person email me telling me they got 10 reported and confirmed [04:07] Ya time to sleep [04:07] good night [04:07] see ya daker! [04:09] humphreybc: well, it was your competition, so you should know. :) [04:09] I just fixed bugs. [04:23] humphreybc: where is the new version of the website, so i can have a look [04:23] or is it not up on the net yet? [04:27] nisshh: I'm still making it [04:27] Give you a preview in a sec [04:27] cool [04:28] maybe i can find a place for that damn twitter button? [04:29] haha [04:29] actually, arent we on identica too? [04:32] yeah [04:32] but no one uses that... cough [04:32] * nisshh puts his hand up! [04:32] i do! [04:32] i heard the perfect description of twitter the other day [04:34] it was: "twitter is full of spammers, retards and advertising businesses" [04:34] * humphreybc should be studying for his exam [04:34] hehe [04:34] * nisshh should be doing college work [04:35] hows that preview coming along? [04:35] humphreybc: ^^ [04:38] humphreybc: http://identi.ca/group/twitterfails [04:40] ready to be amazed? [04:40] * nisshh gets excited [04:40] http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-index.png [04:40] http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-about.png [04:41] oop [04:41] oops [04:41] nope [04:41] nevermind! [04:41] * nisshh is confused [04:41] how? [04:41] they're only mockups :) [04:42] no its not that, you said oops right after [04:42] oh [04:42] yeah [04:42] I forgot to clear my cache [04:42] so it looked like my new changes hadn't worked [04:42] but then I realized :) [04:42] ah [04:42] hence the nevermind [04:42] so they are the latest mockups? [04:43] yep [04:43] fresh outta photoshop :P [04:43] cool [04:43] I think we should drop the features list from the front page and replace it with newsy stuff. [04:44] godbyk-sagan: yeah, maybe [04:44] or at least until we actually get some features [04:44] humphreybc: features list on the download page? [04:45] on the index page [04:45] http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-index.png [04:45] after it starts downloading it gives you a summary of the features or somthing [04:45] the features there are useless. they're not meaningful to our intended audience. [04:45] no, i was suggesting moving it [04:45] oh [04:46] like "heres your pdf and here are some cool facts about it [04:46] " [04:47] humphreybc: i like the twitter feed thing down the bottom left, how did you do that? [04:47] nisshh: he created a textbox and typed in some text. ;-) [04:48] it's just a mockup in photoshop [04:49] godbyk-sagan: oh yea i forgot, ok let me rephrase that, humphreybc how are you going to do that? [04:50] humphreybc: also, what about putting the twitter and facebook icons under that twitter feed thing [04:50] so it mirrors the bottom right kind of [04:51] also the "We need you!" sounds a bit desperate [04:51] you may as well say "You better fucking contribute!" [04:52] ffs, my isp is being a bitch today [04:53] my net connection is being finicky right now, too. [04:53] not sure what's up [04:54] i can always blame it on my isp now since i use opendns for my dns lookups now [05:04] I like it how you forgot it was a mockup [05:04] it looks SO good :P [05:04] the twitter thing is easy, it's just an RSS feed [05:04] same as how boxee does it: http://www.boxee.tv/ [05:04] I want to highlight the social sites, ie, somewhere near the top [05:05] ah ok [05:05] there are already links on the bottom right [05:05] yea i saw them after i said my suggestion [05:06] godbyk-sagan: do you like the better name for the credits area? [05:18] it's still hard to know the diff between 'about us' (given its tagline) and contributors (given its tagline) [05:19] yeah [05:20] suggestions? [05:20] Also, I want to clean up the instructions page [05:20] Maybe we could have help overlays, like launchpad, instead of redirecting to a new page for each role [05:20] humphreybc: see my suggestion above about the contributors tagline [05:21] Of course, the taglines are just what came out of my brain when I was trying to fill in those spaces [05:21] they're not essential to the design, and they can be easily changed :D [05:21] right [05:22] So the 'About Us' page is about the project, and the 'Contributors' page is just the list of credits? [05:22] yes [05:22] same as the current site [05:22] go look at the current site :D [05:23] Maybe 'About Us' should have the tagline 'What we do'. [05:23] Yeah [05:23] that sounds better [05:23] And 'Contributors' could have 'Who we are' [05:23] * humphreybc changes [05:24] okay [05:24] and what about for Download and Get Involved? [05:24] bear in mind that vish is going to give me some better icons soon, too. [05:25] sure [05:25] let's see.. [05:26] Download: Our free manual [05:26] Get Involved: How you can help [05:26] I was hoping for slightly more enthusiastic imperatives here [05:26] yeah, I'm thinking.. [05:26] Advertising 101? [05:27] (and trying to config my netbook at the same time.. so much to do!) [05:27] ha [05:28] 'download' and 'get involved' are already imperatives. [05:28] tue. [05:28] true* [05:28] maybe they need an exclamation mark... [05:28] so the taglines for those don't have to be verbs. [05:29] lol [05:29] exclamation marks, drop shadows, animations, bling! [05:29] yes! [05:29] you could have the download arrow spin in circles [05:29] although not outer glows. [05:29] they're hidious [05:29] lol [05:29] hideous * [05:29] hahaha [05:29] yes [05:29] oh, that's where you draw the line, eh? [05:29] I could have some exciting black/white flashing at 500 FPS [05:30] see how epileptic fits we can induce? [05:30] yep [05:32] ah, man. I'm gonna have to go to sleep soon if I'm going to be up in time for that ayatana meeting. [05:32] I should adjust my availability time for that. [05:32] getting up for a 7 a.m. meeting isn't fun. [05:32] sadly, after that meeting, I have another meeting at 9:30. [05:32] I can't win. [05:32] I aint gonna be there, exam tomorrow [05:32] well [05:32] I might be if i'm still around [05:32] but I'm going to try to go to sleep early [05:33] I was half awake during the last one, but stay in bed. [05:33] just read the messages on my phone as they came by. [05:33] :) [05:36] what do you guys think of my blogs new look: https://freakaboutlinux.wordpress.com/ [05:37] great. I can't remember my launchpad pwd. [05:38] godbyk-sagan: hehe [05:39] looks cool Ryan! [05:39] not so keen on the red rollovers [05:39] they are a bit bright arent they? [05:39] blood red color [05:40] i dont think i can change that in css [05:40] I don't think you need a diagonal line pattern on the selected page tab [05:40] humphreybc: its a preset theme [05:40] Ohhh [05:40] I thought you made it :D [05:40] hehe, i wish :) [05:40] I like the stuff on the left [05:40] ill see what i can change with css [05:41] * humphreybc likes it how my post is now rated 10/10 on omgubuntu [05:41] hehe, your rant, i thought that was cool [05:42] aw shit, i have to pay to have custom css on my blog [05:42] oh yeah [05:42] no freaking way [05:42] I remember that with wordpress :D [05:42] * humphreybc is really overusing the :D smiley today [05:43] * nisshh thinks humphreybc is a smiley fanboy [05:43] * nisshh also just hit 200 pageviews thismorning [05:43] yay! [05:44] yea, i suppose, thats 200 after 5 months of blogging [05:44] although 8 posts is not much [05:45] sorry 9 posts [05:51] Okay, I'm off to bed. [05:51] godbyk-sagan: ok, gnight [05:53] nighy [05:53] * nisshh is hungry, he goes foraging [08:06] humphreybc: are we going to hold another 48-hours irc event again? [09:01] morning all [09:11] good morning! [09:12] hello thorwil how are you? [09:13] ubuntujenkins: i'm fine, wrestling with html and css. and you? [09:14] thorwil: I am good got one more exam to do, playing with doing the index in tamil [11:13] humphreybc: please can you answer https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+question/112203 I guess the most suitble would be when the editing is finished [11:13] I can think of a nice way to write that [11:35] godbyk and godbyk-sagan I have e-mailed the xindy mailing list as there have been a few problems with the rules we shall see what they say [11:49] humphreybc, have you found a place for facebook & twitter icons ? [11:56] hi daker. have a look at http://code.google.com/p/hyphenator/, please. i'm using it for a site in development already and i think ubuntu-manual.org would benefit from it, too [11:58] haha [11:58] great yes [12:09] humphreybc-mini: did you see my mention about that question on launchpad? [12:10] yes, briefly. Could you paste it again please? [12:10] and daker, nope, haven't worked on them again since you hit the sack :) [12:10] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+question/112203 thanks [12:16] Answered it [12:44] thanks humphreybc-mini === \vish is now known as vish [14:38] just read in #ubuntu " I think they need to put a link to the ubuntu manual right in the middle of the desktop. :)" [14:39] hehe [14:39] haha [14:41] lol [15:02] look women website is very poor http://women.ubuntu.com/ [15:05] daker: holy crap, that is terrible [15:08] yeah [15:28] What is CTCP VERSION? [15:30] hannie: is the frigg bot asking you for it? [15:31] Yes [15:37] hannie, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect [15:38] Thanks, I'll read it [15:38] all it does is ask your irc client for its version and name [15:38] nothing to worry about really [15:41] I won't ;) [15:42] nisshh, he must worry :) [15:43] CTCP request is very bad [15:43] She [15:44] o.O sorry :) [15:44] she must worry [15:44] I cannot find much help in the faq about this [15:44] lol, i had it requesting me for like 2 months, now its stopped [15:45] there is one paragraph that tells you what it does [15:47] Update your client regularly to avoid security problems, and don't be too worried unless they're doing more than just CTCP VERSION, or doing it over and over. [15:48] I use Qwebirq [15:48] * if you are running an old version, there is a good chance that it can be hacked [15:48] * by checking your CTCP version, they can 'guess' your operating system [15:49] So I should update qwebirq? [15:50] no qwebirq is web apps [15:50] Under Options I cannot find a way to turn off CTCP VERSION [15:50] I will install another irc client then [15:52] yes with an irc client(like xchat) you can turn off them or just fake them [15:52] Ok, thanks for your help. I am going to install xchat. [16:00] haha ubuntujenkins look http://bobbo.me.uk/ [16:01] daker: I see a progress bar that looks like i have seen it before [16:03] \o/ [16:05] how does the progress thing work? [16:07] should ask vish [16:10] ?mppa [16:11] ?mppa [16:11] ubuntujenkins: Error: "mppa" is not a valid command. [16:11] ?manualppa [16:11] ubuntujenkins: Error: "manualppa" is not a valid command. [16:11] ?mtppa [16:11] ubuntujenkins: Error: "mtppa" is not a valid command. [16:11] ?tppa [16:11] ubuntujenkins: Error: "tppa" is not a valid command. [16:12] ubuntujenkins, you will become crasy with quickshotdevs [16:13] I thought i tought it the manual latex ppa stuff now i can't rember the factoid [16:14] ubuntujenkins: daker is not human ;p [16:20] hhhhh [16:48] http://www.geekosystem.com/0888-888-888/ [17:29] ubuntujenkins, http://bobbo.me.uk/index.php/planet-ubuntu/operation-cleansweep-day-four-update [17:31] daker: yey for the post === daker_ is now known as daker [18:07] * daker is on the planet [19:07] ubuntujenkins, did you know how can i make something like this http://imagebin.org/100693 [19:09] daker no not a clue you could probably use alacarte to make a custom menu but it would never look as good as that [19:09] i want to make an input inside a menuitem [19:10] i see i guess you could try and find the memenu code in launchpad [19:11] daker: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/indicator-me [19:13] daker: its probably a custom gtk widget [19:14] it's programmed with C [19:14] not python :s [19:16] daker: yea, gtk is written in C, it has a python wrapper [19:17] hence the python-gtk package [19:19] i was talking about the memenu [19:20] daker: ah, i take it you only know python then? [19:20] a little of python [19:20]