[00:32] <tgm4883> Azelphur, some of them may work under 0.23
[00:32] <tgm4883> you will have to test them
[00:32] <Azelphur> tgm4883: they don't appear in the list lol
[00:32] <tgm4883> I wouldn't recommend updating to 0.24 on a production box yet
[00:32] <tgm4883> Azelphur, that is because they aren't shipped by default
[00:33] <Azelphur> oh, how would I enable iplayer?
[00:33] <tgm4883> I have a PPA with some of them on there, I don't recall if the iplayer one is on there or not
[00:33] <tgm4883> I can check when I get home, if not, it's a simple addition. Although the build process is backed up
[00:33] <Azelphur> I'd be interested in trying that :)
[00:33] <Azelphur> cool, let me know
[00:33] <tgm4883> Ok, ping me in about 2 hours in case I forget
[00:33] <tgm4883> BBL
[00:33] <Azelphur> willco
[02:11] <tgm4883> Azelphur, good news for you, looks like I already have the iplayer grabber in the package
[02:11] <tgm4883> are you using 10.04?
[02:11] <Azelphur> cool
[02:11] <Azelphur> yup, mythbuntu 10.04
[02:11] <qwebirc52197> hi folks... where can I find a utility to config my WiFi connection?
[02:11] <tgm4883> qwebirc52197, should be installed by default
[02:12] <tgm4883> Azelphur, https://edge.launchpad.net/~tgm4883/+archive/ppa/+files/mythnetvision-grabbers_1.2-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu~lucid_all.deb
[02:12] <Zinn> [edge.launchpad.net]
[02:12] <Azelphur> ty
[02:12] <tgm4883> install that, it's basically me taking the grabbers that aren't shipped in mythbuntu
[02:12] <qwebirc52197> thanks.. under which menu? I'm just not seeing it.. =(
[02:12] <tgm4883> I did that awhile ago, so anything that is newer is still missing, but I know iplayer is in there
[02:13] <tgm4883> qwebirc52197, should be an icon in the upper right of your screen
[02:13] <tgm4883> networkmanager
[02:13] <qwebirc52197> k thx
[02:15] <Azelphur> yup, very nice, all working :D
[02:16] <Azelphur> well, I see it in the grabbers, I have yet to play video, so all was a bit premature :P
[02:17] <Azelphur> yup, that's working nicely :)
[02:54] <Azelphur> tgm4883: weird problem, it appears it's loading the page correctly, the iplayer flash comes up, displays a screenshot of the correct episode, you hit play, it says "This content doesn't seem to be working. Try again later"
[02:54] <Azelphur> no problem in Firefox
[02:54] <tgm4883> Azelphur, odd
[02:56] <tgm4883> Azelphur, do you have python-lxml installed?
[02:56] <Azelphur> yes
[02:56] <tgm4883> Daviey, do you use MNV with iplayer?
[02:56]  * tgm4883 isn't in the UK, so can't use iplayer
[02:57] <Azelphur> haha, coincidence, I know Daviey :)
[02:57] <Azelphur> tis 3am here so he's probably asleep, though
[02:57] <Azelphur> should probably ask again at a more uk-ish sort of time
[02:57] <tgm4883> and by asleep, you mean he is a slacker ;)
[02:57] <Azelphur> indeed xD
[02:58] <Azelphur> I been renting a VPS off him for over a year now, his website is still exactly the same as it was when I first rented :D
[02:58] <Azelphur> "This website IS configured"
[02:58] <Azelphur> lol
[02:58] <tgm4883> heh
[02:58] <tgm4883> what site?
[02:58] <Azelphur> http://vpserve.com/
[02:58] <Zinn> [vpserve.com]
[02:59] <tgm4883> heh, nice
[02:59] <Azelphur> indeed :P
[02:59] <Azelphur> but yea I shall prod him about it tommorow and see how far I get
[03:01] <tgm4883> ok
[03:11] <mcl0vin> anyone here please
[03:11] <Azelphur> nope
[03:11] <mcl0vin> good then
[03:11] <Azelphur> lol
[03:12] <mcl0vin> keep freezing all the time
[03:12] <Azelphur> turn the heating on?
[03:12] <Azelphur> mcl0vin: what keeps freezing?
[03:16] <mcl0vin> mythbuntu
[03:16] <Azelphur> anything you do that causes it to freeze? or does it just freeze at random
[03:17] <mcl0vin> randomly ...am running ubuntu 9.10
[03:17] <Azelphur> I'd start by running memtest
[03:18] <mcl0vin> new mem bought less than 2 weeks
[03:18] <Azelphur> is that because the old memory failed?
[03:19] <mcl0vin> now pc start but mythtv doesn't
[03:19] <mcl0vin> no upgrade from 512 to 2 GB
[03:20] <Azelphur> well, I'm not sure how to debug it so I'd start by running memtest
[03:20] <Azelphur> you've gotta start eliminating possibilities, and that's one of em :p
[03:21] <mcl0vin> Azelphur: ok ki will do it tonight , i just start it manually now ...kido want to wact a cartoon movie
[03:21] <Azelphur> :)
[03:22] <Azelphur> stay in here and hopefully someone will have some better suggestions for you
[03:22] <mcl0vin> but can u help me dig some logs
[03:22] <Azelphur> I'm not sure what to look for, and it's 3:20am here I'm in need of sleep
[03:22] <Azelphur> but stick around, I'm sure someone can help with that
[03:22] <mcl0vin> :) i will like every other day
[03:23] <mcl0vin> good night
[08:17] <Fudge> hi, is this error common. the video frame buffering dfailed to many times
[08:23] <Jay2k1> i've seen it a few times
[08:24] <Jay2k1> i don't quite remember when, but it was while fast forwarding while the box was very very busy doing stuff on the hard disk i think
[08:26] <Fudge> Jay2k1  my brothe rinlaw has jsut set it up on his media machine in lounge room. im slowly converting him to linux. he says the channels jsut drop out. could you give some tips of things i can tell him to troublehshoot?
[08:26] <Jay2k1> sorry but i have no idea :/ i'm relatively new to that whole myth / watching tv on linux thing
[08:29] <Fudge> how bout cant get channel # or set channel as default, seen that?
[08:29] <Jay2k1> nope
[08:30] <Jay2k1> but all that sounds like something is seriously f*cked up there
[08:30] <Fudge> hehehe yeah mate
[08:30] <Fudge> not bagging ppl here coz i know how irc works but does this cahnnel get supported much or shoudl i be looking elsewhere
[08:37] <Jay2k1> i got helped here often
[08:38] <Jay2k1> but it's mainly the same few people that talk, you probably have to wait 1-2 hrs or even come back later in the evening
[08:38] <Jay2k1> (talking about CET)
[08:43] <Fudge> im happy to wait
[12:21] <mcblack> hi @all
[12:21] <mcblack> i've got a liitle problem with a fresh install of mythbuntu 10.04 maybe somone here can give me a hint
[12:22] <mcblack> the system shut's down on itself from time to time
[12:22] <mcblack> with : Broadcast message from root@xbmc         (unknown) at 13:06 ...  The system is going down for halt NOW!
[12:22] <Jay2k1> while the frontend is running?
[12:23] <mcblack> it doesn't need to run, but it doesn't matter also
[12:25] <mcblack> just for the record :
[12:26] <mcblack> I've also installed vdr and xbmc from the testing branch
[12:26] <mcblack> but I can't find something with ps or in the crontabs
[13:08] <mrand> Have you tried uninstalling or disabling xbmc, since that is what is in the Broadcast message?
[13:09] <mcblack> xbmc is the name of the machine
[13:25] <Azelphur> Hi, can anyone help me setup my Hauppage TV remote with mythbuntu?
[13:25] <Azelphur> I tried using the control center and selecting Hauppage DVB-s card (ver 2.1) but only some of the buttons work
[13:26] <Azelphur> I think the remote is actually being detected as a HID rather than a remote, as it actually sends keystroke rather than just commands to mythtv
[13:27] <Azelphur> and the buttons that don't correspond to actual keyboard buttons don't work (EG red/green/yellow/blue,TV,Videos don't work)
[13:50] <Keithamus> Azelphur, I'll help. First can you run "ls /dev/input/by-path"
[13:51] <Azelphur> pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.0-event-kbd    pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.1-mouse   pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.1-event-mouse  pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.2-event
[13:51] <Azelphur> ty :)
[13:54] <Azelphur> The only other HID I have connected is a USB HTPC Keyboard with built in trackball, if that's relevant
[13:55] <Keithamus> right
[13:55] <Keithamus> for each of those listed
[13:55] <Keithamus> you need to do this
[13:55] <Keithamus> sudo cat /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.0-event-kbd
[13:56] <Keithamus> Then press keyboard buttons, if it is the right one it'll spew a bunch of crap when you press a button on the remote (you need to press the buttons that DONT work)
[13:57] <Azelphur> pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.0-event-kbd is the keyboard
[13:58] <Azelphur> none of them appear to be the remote
[13:59] <Azelphur> pci-0000:00:10.0-usb-0:1:1.2-event does nothing whatever I press
[13:59] <Keithamus> when you say the keyboard, you mean the 0-9 and enter keys on the remote? or your physical keyboard attached?
[13:59] <Azelphur> physical keyboard
[14:00] <Keithamus> most remove devices on the new kernel have 2 inputs - one is the remote keyboard (i.e 0-9, enter) and the other is the special keys which you need to configure with LIRC
[14:02] <Azelphur> well -mouse and -event-mouse are both the physical mouse, -kbd is the physical keyboard
[14:02] <Keithamus> do "dmesg | grep dvb"
[14:03] <Azelphur> [   18.330550] cx88/2: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.7 loaded | [   18.330555] cx88/2: registering cx8802 driver, type: dvb access: shared
[14:03] <Keithamus> (if the output is long don't spam it here, instead use pastebin.com. you can do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then add "> pastebinit" to the end of a command)
[14:03] <Keithamus> ah cool
[14:04] <Azelphur> yea, I will use a pastebin if it's long, no point for 2 lines though :)
[14:04] <Keithamus> no indeed
[14:04] <Keithamus> what card is it? The HD nova?
[14:04] <Azelphur> grep -i dvb reveals more info, yay for case insensitivity
[14:04] <Azelphur> Nova-S-Plus
[14:04] <Keithamus> oh yeah @)
[14:05] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/r74vVBGs
[14:05] <Keithamus> ls /lib/firmware/dvb-usb-*
[14:05] <Azelphur> a litte more there with the case insensitivity :)
[14:06] <Azelphur>  /lib/firmware/dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw
[14:06] <Keithamus> you sure none of those /dev/input/by-path devices are catting?
[14:06] <Azelphur> nothing from the remote, no
[14:06] <Keithamus> if its plugged in, they should definitely output
[14:07] <Azelphur> kbd is physical keyboard, mouse and event-mouse are the mouse, event doesn't seem to do anything
[14:07] <Azelphur> and I notice they all say usb, the remote is not a USB device
[14:07] <Keithamus> ls /dev/lirc*
[14:07] <Azelphur>  /dev/lircd
[14:07] <Keithamus> its that little 3.5mm jack right?
[14:08] <Azelphur> yup, IR Reciever into the DVB-S card on the 3.5mm jack
[14:08] <Keithamus> "cat /dev/lircd" and try pressing a range of buttons
[14:08] <Azelphur> cat: /dev/lircd: No such device or address
[14:08] <Keithamus> uhh "sudo !!"
[14:08] <Azelphur> same again
[14:09] <Keithamus> wtf... it just said it was there!
[14:09] <Keithamus> ls -la /dev/lirc
[14:09] <Azelphur> it's /dev/lircd, missing d :)
[14:09] <Azelphur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2010-06-06 08:20 /dev/lircd -> /var/run/lirc/lircd
[14:09] <Keithamus> oh yeah sorry
[14:10] <Keithamus> uhhh
[14:10] <Keithamus> I think I noobed it
[14:10] <Keithamus> "ls /dev/input/lirc* -la" I think its in /dev/input lol
[14:10] <Azelphur> hehe, No such file or directory
[14:11] <Keithamus> ok
[14:11] <Keithamus> "sudo cat /dev/input/event*" will cat all of the devices, it might get messy, try not to press anything but the remote.
[14:12] <Azelphur> no output from that when pressing buttons on the remote.
[14:12] <Keithamus> that confuses me. just for the hell of it try running "irw" and see what comes  up when you press keys
[14:12] <Zinn> Keithamus: Please watch your language.
[14:12] <Azelphur> no output from the keyboard either
[14:13] <Azelphur> no output from irw
[14:13] <Keithamus> pressing keys 1-9 works yeah?
[14:13] <Azelphur> yea
[14:13] <Azelphur> and the arrows
[14:15] <Keithamus> k open a second terminal window, and do: "sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop; sudo lircd -n -H devinput -d /dev/lircd"
[14:15] <Keithamus> in the first terminal window run irw again
[14:17] <Azelphur> interesting output from the sudo command
[14:17] <Keithamus> sure
[14:17] <Keithamus> lets see
[14:17] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/u3Rx4mYJ
[14:18] <Azelphur> also I think I may have an idea why it can't access the hardware, looking in lsmod I have a module called "ir_common" loaded
[14:18] <Keithamus> oh yeah your /dev/lircd was naff wasnt it? Errr... grrr. Its like your remote doesnt exist!
[14:18] <Azelphur> ir_common              38875  1 cx88xx
[14:18] <Azelphur> maybe it's hijacking the remote so lirc can't get at it
[14:18] <Keithamus> I dont think that matters much, because if its pluggin in it should be in /dev
[14:19] <Azelphur> ok
[14:19] <Keithamus> /dev/lirc* are usually just simlinks to other /dev/ files.
[14:20] <Azelphur> so any other ideas?
[14:20] <Keithamus> hmm. "dmesg | grep -i remote" ?
[14:20] <Azelphur> [   18.479244] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
[14:21] <Azelphur> oO, found something else of interest when grepping for "ir "
[14:21] <Azelphur> [   18.254819] input: cx88 IR (Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus  as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7
[14:22] <Keithamus> *rages* - so try "cat /devices/prci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7" and then try button bashing
[14:23] <Azelphur> no such file or directory \o/
[14:23] <Keithamus> oh oops
[14:23] <Keithamus> i typoed
[14:23] <Azelphur> I fixed your typo
[14:23] <Azelphur> still no such file or directory
[14:23] <Azelphur> :P
[14:23] <Azelphur> cat: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7: No such file or directory
[14:23] <Keithamus> wait what... /devices/...
[14:23] <Azelphur> exactly
[14:24] <Azelphur> there isn't even a /devices/
[14:24] <Keithamus> ls /dev/* -la
[14:24] <Keithamus> or even better add -R too
[14:24] <Azelphur> sudo cat /dev/input/event7
[14:24] <Azelphur> found the remote \o/
[14:24] <Keithamus> XD
[14:25] <Azelphur> it's /dev/input/event7
[14:25] <Azelphur> lol
[14:25] <Keithamus> is that the remote as in 0-9 or the remote as in the special buttons?
[14:25] <Azelphur> that's every button on the remote, including the buttons that don't work
[14:25] <Keithamus> if you just do "sudo ln -sf /dev/input/event7 /dev/lirc; sudo lircd -n -H devinput -d /dev/lirc" and then run irw in another window
[14:26] <Azelphur> I get output from irw :D
[14:26] <Keithamus> XD
[14:27] <Azelphur> it appears to pick up all the buttons correctly, down up ok left blue yellow green etc :P
[14:27] <Keithamus> Want to hear the good news though? /dev/input/event* are randomly assigned, so it wont always be event7!
[14:27] <Azelphur> hmm
[14:27] <Keithamus> so
[14:28] <Keithamus> sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
[14:28] <Azelphur> blank file
[14:28] <Keithamus> yup cool
[14:28] <Keithamus> try this one
[14:28] <Keithamus> KERNEL=="event*", ATTRS{name}=="IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver", SYMLINK+="input/lirc"
[14:28] <Keithamus> add that into that file
[14:28] <Keithamus> save (ctrl+o) and exit (ctrl+x)
[14:29] <Keithamus> ctrl+o then enter to save actualyl
[14:29] <Azelphur> done
[14:29] <Keithamus> reboot
[14:29] <Keithamus> when you've rebooted you need to "ls /dev/lirc -la"
[14:29] <Azelphur> ok
[14:30] <Azelphur> no such file or directory
[14:30] <Azelphur> did you mean /dev/lircd?
[14:31] <Azelphur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2010-06-10 14:30 /dev/lircd -> /var/run/lirc/lircd
[14:31] <Keithamus> oh noob, I meant /dev/input/lirc
[14:31] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:31] <Azelphur> no such file or directory
[14:32] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i remove
[14:32] <Keithamus> remote**
[14:32] <Keithamus> freudian
[14:32] <Azelphur> [   18.073307] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
[14:33] <Keithamus> did it not assign to an input?
[14:34] <Azelphur> I don't see anything new in /dev/input, so probably not
[14:34] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i "input: cx88 IR"
[14:34] <Azelphur> on the bright side, the remote is still event7 xD
[14:34] <Keithamus> heeeh
[14:34] <Keithamus> it wont be for long XD
[14:34] <Azelphur> [   18.073307] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
[14:34] <Azelphur> tv@tv:/dev/input$ dmesg | grep -i "input: cx88 IR"
[14:34] <Azelphur> [   18.369995] input: cx88 IR (Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus  as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.2/input/input7
[14:34] <Azelphur> oops. got 3 lines there instead of one >.<
[14:35] <Keithamus> do "ls /dev/input/by-path/ -la"
[14:35] <Keithamus> is one of those linked to event7?
[14:36] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/mYHMLmm9
[14:36] <Azelphur> nope
[14:36] <Keithamus> well
[14:36] <Keithamus> try irw for now
[14:37] <Azelphur> nope nothing from irw now
[14:37] <Keithamus> yeah so you need to "sudo nano /etc/lirc/hardware.conf" and change your device to /dev/input/event7
[14:37] <Azelphur> REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event7" ?
[14:38] <Keithamus> but ideally you need to find a fixed path for event7, because mark my words it will change and you'll rage when it does and you've spent another hour debugging it
[14:38] <Azelphur> haha
[14:38] <Azelphur> I have no idea how i'd find one
[14:38] <Azelphur> just have to cross fingers
[14:39] <Keithamus> udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/input/event7)
[14:39] <Azelphur> udevinfo command not found
[14:40] <Keithamus> sudo apt-get install udevinfo
[14:40] <Azelphur> couldn't find package udevinfo
[14:40] <Keithamus> udevadm info -q all -n /dev/input/event7
[14:41] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/aTqZrmzE
[14:45] <Keithamus> udevadm info -a -n /dev/input/event7
[14:46] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/vC7rskLe
[14:46] <Keithamus> great
[14:46] <Keithamus> sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
[14:46] <Azelphur> yup
[14:47] <Keithamus> KERNEL=="event*", ATTRS{name}=="cx88 IR (Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus", SYMLINK+="input/lirc"
[14:47] <Keithamus> reboot and "ls -la /dev/input/lirc"
[14:47] <Azelphur> remove the existing line, yea?
[14:47] <Keithamus> yeah sorry
[14:47] <Keithamus> remove existing line
[14:47] <Azelphur> .whoid Keithamus
[14:47] <Azelphur> oops lol
[14:48] <Keithamus> !!
[14:48] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about !
[14:48] <Azelphur> fail, was looking to see if you have a website :P
[14:48] <Keithamus> i DO
[14:48] <Keithamus> Oops caps
[14:48] <Azelphur> shiney
[14:48] <Keithamus> http://keithcirkel.co.uk/
[14:48] <Zinn> [keithcirkel.co.uk] Keith Cirkel - Portfolio
[14:48] <Azelphur> cool :)
[14:48] <Keithamus> abnd http://blog.keithcirkel.co.uk/
[14:48] <Zinn> [blog.keithcirkel.co.uk] Keith Cirkel
[14:48] <Keithamus> but they're not about mythtv ;)
[14:48] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:49] <Keithamus> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Keithamus
[14:49] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] User:Keithamus - MythTV
[14:49] <Azelphur> ls -la /dev/input/lirc, no such file or directory
[14:50] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i cx88
[14:51] <Azelphur> nothing
[14:51] <Azelphur> oh wow
[14:51] <Azelphur> noob moment
[14:51] <Azelphur> executing the commands on my laptop, not via ssh
[14:52] <Azelphur>  /dev/input/lirc exists
[14:52] <Keithamus> XD
[14:52] <Keithamus> sweet, does it link?
[14:53] <Azelphur> doesn't seem to, no output from irw
[14:53] <Keithamus> *facepalm*
[14:53] <Keithamus> try that dmesg command above
[14:53] <Azelphur> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2010-06-10 14:48 /dev/input/lirc -> event7
[14:54] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/aqSgMPmx
[14:54] <Keithamus> ah too much :(
[14:54] <Keithamus> dmesg | grep -i lirc
[14:54] <Azelphur> Keithamus: in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf REMOTE_DEVICE is /dev/lirc0
[14:54] <Azelphur> is that wrong?
[14:54] <Keithamus> ah yeah def!
[14:54] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:54] <Keithamus> needs to be /dev/input/lirc
[14:54] <Azelphur> figures
[14:55] <Azelphur> reboot?
[14:55] <Keithamus> so edit that, then sudo /etc/init.d/lircd restart
[14:55] <Azelphur> still nothing from irw
[14:55] <Keithamus> you should rarely have to reboot - the exception being finicky stuff like udev which is a pita to restart
[14:55] <Azelphur> it says it restarted ok though
[14:55] <Keithamus> hmm
[14:56] <Keithamus> sudo /etc/init.d/lircd stop; sudo lircd -n -H devinput -d /dev/input/lirc
[14:56] <Keithamus> then irw
[14:56] <Azelphur> it's /etc/init.d/lirc btw
[14:57] <Azelphur> Keithamus: yup irw works now
[14:57] <Keithamus> k
[14:57] <Keithamus> double check your hardware.conf, make sure the driver is set to devinput, and make sure theres no weird looking comments.. infact, perhaps pastebin your conf here
[14:58] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/vbHUX3p1
[14:58] <Keithamus> so yeah, REMOTE DRIVER needs to be devinput
[14:58] <Keithamus> probably best to comment out all the TRANSMITTER lines unless you have a blaster?
[14:59] <Azelphur> ok
[14:59] <Azelphur> no blaster :)
[14:59] <Azelphur> so now restart lircd again?
[14:59] <Keithamus> sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[15:00] <Keithamus> and then you should *fingers crossed* be good to go
[15:00] <Azelphur> Unable to load LIRC kernel modules. Verify your selected kernel modules in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[15:00] <Keithamus> ohh... its funny
[15:00] <Keithamus> lemme check mine
[15:00] <Azelphur> REMOTE_MODULES="devinput" yea?
[15:01] <Keithamus> yeah
[15:01] <Keithamus> i hate lirc you know
[15:01] <Keithamus> try REMOTE_MODULES="dev/input"
[15:02] <Azelphur> no luck
[15:04] <Keithamus> edit it back to "devinput" and try rebooting. Lirc's conf is really unreliable compared to straight up cli
[15:04] <Keithamus> sometimes I'll have it perfect, reboot and it breaks, sometimes it'll be broken I'll reboot and it works... its just weird like that.
[15:05] <Azelphur> \o/
[15:06] <Keithamus> it works? :D
[15:06] <Azelphur> irw doesn't work (connect: No such file or directory)
[15:08] <Azelphur> Keithamus: I got it
[15:08] <Azelphur> REMOTE_MODULES=""
[15:08] <Azelphur> REMOTE_DRIVER="dev/input"
[15:08] <Keithamus> ah awesome, that works? Even after reboot?
[15:08] <Azelphur> just checking the reboot now
[15:09] <Keithamus> Told you lirc's conf was finicky ;)
[15:09] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:10] <Azelphur> yup works after the boot
[15:10] <Keithamus> XD
[15:10] <Keithamus> wd, you managed to tame the lirc beast!
[15:11] <Azelphur> ty :D
[15:11] <Azelphur> most of the buttons now just work with mythtv too
[15:11] <Keithamus> yeah, awesome
[15:11] <Keithamus> for the top set (i.e TV, Radio etc) you need to set those shortcuts
[15:11] <Azelphur> I see, in the mythtv edit keys menu?
[15:11] <Keithamus> something like Settings > Shortcuts > Edit Shortcuts > Global Jump keys
[15:11] <Keithamus> yeah
[15:12] <Keithamus> Im sure its called Global Jump keys
[15:12] <Azelphur> Setup > Edit Keys > JumpPoints
[15:13] <Keithamus> ah
[15:13] <Azelphur> oh dear, it doesn't pick up on the top set, I can't bind them
[15:13] <Azelphur> they do work though, and are detected correctly by irw
[15:15] <Azelphur> Keithamus: any ideas on how I'd get them to life?
[15:15] <Keithamus> check the remote config
[15:15] <Azelphur> where's that?
[15:15] <Keithamus> uhhh
[15:15] <Keithamus> its in /etc/lirc/
[15:15] <Keithamus> dunno what the filename is though
[15:16] <Azelphur> hardware.conf  hardware.conf.old  lircd.conf  lircd.conf.dpkg-old  lircmd.conf
[15:16] <Keithamus> probably lircd.conf
[15:17] <Azelphur> lircd.conf includes a nice long and confusing looking file in /usr/share
[15:17] <Keithamus> yeah
[15:17] <Keithamus> you in nano?
[15:18] <Keithamus> or grep it
[15:18] <Keithamus> basically find the key you're after
[15:18] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/1GiF7jcQ
[15:18] <Keithamus> so... "Radio" for example
[15:18] <Azelphur> there's multiple entries for TV
[15:18] <Keithamus> oh
[15:18] <Keithamus> thats the decoder file
[15:18] <Azelphur> also search in nano is ctrl+w :D
[15:18] <Keithamus> you need the keybinding file
[15:18] <Azelphur> I see
[15:18] <Keithamus> yeah I know
[15:18] <Keithamus> err
[15:18] <Keithamus> try ~/.lirc/mythtv or ~/.mythtv/lirc
[15:19] <Azelphur> well /etc/lircd/lircd.conf is just a bunch of comments and an include to the file I pastebinned
[15:19] <Azelphur> yea, it looks like it doesn't have buttons for TV
[15:19] <Azelphur> I think I can add them
[15:27] <Azelphur> nope, not having any luckj
[15:27] <Azelphur> Keithamus: http://pastebin.com/axmfFqsh
[15:28] <Keithamus> try "TV"
[15:29] <Keithamus> you have "Tv" for button
[15:29] <Azelphur> irw says "Tv" but ok
[15:29] <Keithamus> also
[15:29] <Keithamus> oh weird
[15:29] <Azelphur> I assume restarting the frontend is enough to apply changes to that file
[15:29] <Keithamus> Definitely TV
[15:29] <Keithamus> look at the decoder config; TV, Videos, Music, Pictures, Guide Radio are all the buttons
[15:30] <Keithamus> yeah, you need to kill mythfrontend
[15:30] <Keithamus> and mythwelcome I think
[15:30] <Keithamus> you should give them a config like ALT+T, ALT+V etc
[15:31] <Azelphur> oh cool
[15:31] <Azelphur> config = alt+t ?
[15:31] <Keithamus> I think so
[15:31] <Keithamus> yeah, perhaps do them caps to be safe
[15:31] <Keithamus> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI#lircrc
[15:32] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T 500 PCI - MythTV
[15:35] <Azelphur> seems to be working :)
[15:38] <Keithamus> great XD
[15:47] <Azelphur> Keithamus: lol, it appears jump points only work when your at the main menu :P
[15:47] <Azelphur> there must be a global jump points menu like you said
[15:48] <Keithamus> Yeah perhaps Azelphur; I've noticed it appears to do a "back" key and then assumes that will get it to the main menu or something
[15:48] <Keithamus> so if you're deep inside your video directory, then it wont work
[15:48] <Azelphur> it doesn't work for me in live tv
[15:48] <Keithamus> if you're on the top level directory inside videos, it will
[15:48] <Keithamus> hmm
[15:48] <Keithamus> perhaps Global then
[15:49] <Azelphur> if I press TV in the top level of Videos it works
[15:49] <Azelphur> oh wait
[15:49] <Azelphur> it's working now :S
[15:49] <Azelphur> \;/
[15:49] <Azelphur> \o/*
[15:49] <Azelphur> it's intermittant
[15:49] <Keithamus> yeah unfortunately
[15:50] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:50] <Azelphur> oh well
[15:50] <Azelphur> only 3 buttons left not bound, is there a jump point to mythmusic?
[15:50] <Azelphur> I can't find it in the jump points list
[15:51] <Keithamus> hmm
[15:51] <Azelphur> aha, play music looks like the job
[15:51] <Keithamus> yeah probably
[15:51] <Azelphur> not called MythMusic like the rest of the stuff
[15:51] <Keithamus> yeah the keys are a bit of a mess
[15:51] <Azelphur> is there a radio plugin for mythtv?
[15:52] <Azelphur> the one remaining button besides power...it plagues me
[15:52] <Keithamus> not that i know of
[15:52] <Keithamus> I bind it to recordings
[15:52] <Azelphur> haha
[15:52] <Azelphur> tyvm for your help
[15:52] <Azelphur> I'm all set now :D
[15:52] <Keithamus> no worries
[15:53] <Keithamus> hopefully you'll learn all the nuances of mythtv, and hang around here to help the next Azelphur
[15:53] <Azelphur> indeed, I usually do
[15:53] <Keithamus> xD
[15:53] <Azelphur> quite active on IRC, been IRCing since I was 6 years old xD
[15:53] <Keithamus> that is young!
[15:53] <Azelphur> yea, I was smart though, using my brothers laptop
[15:54] <Azelphur> IRC being IRC, someone told me to run format C: it'd make my brother really happy, I said "Yea, right, I'm not that stupid"
[15:54]  * Azelphur high fives 6 year old self
[22:35] <subone> I installed mythtv through ubuntu apt-get then installed the autobuild deb from the mythtv site, now i cant see the selected item. apt-get says: "The following packages have been kept back..." how do i resolve this?
[22:38] <tgm4883> subone, what is being kept back?
[22:42] <subone> libmyth-0.22-0 libmyth-perl mythtv-backend mythtv-common mythtv-frontend mythtv-themes mythtv-transcode-utils mythvideo
[22:42] <subone> doesnt say why
[22:42] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:42] <tgm4883> 0.22?
[22:42] <tgm4883> subone, do this
[22:42] <subone> i upgraded to .23
[22:42] <tgm4883> apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[22:43] <tgm4883> tell me if it says it's going to remove anything
[22:43] <subone> um... i dont want to upgrade to 10.04... is that what that does?
[22:43] <tgm4883> no it does not
[22:43] <tgm4883> first, it's a -s, which is simulate
[22:43] <subone> ok idk
[22:43] <tgm4883> second, it's a apt-get, not update-manager
[22:44] <subone> The following packages will be REMOVED:  libmyth-perl nvidia-185-libvdpau nvidia-185-libvdpau-dev
[22:44] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:44] <tgm4883> this is on 9.10?
[22:45] <subone> yes sir
[22:45] <tgm4883> I believe that is right then
[22:45] <tgm4883> what video card?
[22:46] <subone> ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
[22:46] <subone> the nvidia is internal and not used
[22:46] <subone> im removing those anyway...
[22:46] <tgm4883> ok, if you are using ATI, then I can't think of a reason the above command wouldn't work
[22:46] <tgm4883> apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:46] <tgm4883> no -s
[22:47] <subone> what does that do exactly?
[22:48] <tgm4883> ok
[22:48] <subone> besides "...upgrade: libmyth-0.22-0"?
[22:48] <tgm4883> apt-get upgrade will only upgrade packages, will not add or remove any packages due to new dependencies
[22:49] <subone> ic
[22:49] <tgm4883> apt-get dist-upgrade will also add or remove any packages due to new dependencies
[22:49] <subone> ok awesome
[22:49] <subone> doing that
[23:02] <subone> says its doing a database upgrade now about how long does that usually take?
[23:05] <mrand> subone: it can take a bit.  Depends on the machine and size of the database.  Be very patient.
[23:06] <subone> ok it finished
[23:08] <subone> however now i seem to have a new issue
[23:09] <tgm4883> s/issue/feature/ :)
[23:09] <subone> lol
[23:10] <subone> i have 2 monitors and i had it setup to use screen 1 (the second monitor), but now it shows up on the first monitor and the second monitor is the same but all messed up... i tried to see if the setting was changed or something but when i go into setup>appearance i dont see anything, it doesnt go to the setup, just sits there, but pressing escape goes back to the setup screen as if it did go somewhere
[23:10] <subone> same thing happened in mythtv-setup
[23:10] <tgm4883> odd
[23:11] <tgm4883> what theme are you using?
[23:11] <subone> i forget the name :p
[23:11] <tgm4883> what color isit?
[23:11] <subone> blue with wavy swoops
[23:11] <subone> tentacles if you will
[23:12] <subone> widescreen format
[23:15] <tgm4883> try this from a terminal
[23:15] <tgm4883> mythfrontend -O Theme=terra
[23:17] <subone> same issue
[23:18] <subone> oh i think i see what the issue may be
[23:18] <subone> 2010-06-10 16:17:00.885 Using screen 1, 1680x1050 at 1680,0      2010-06-10 16:17:00.885 Using theme base resolution of 1280x720
[23:18] <subone> it changed my res
[23:19] <subone> how do i avoid that
[23:28] <subone> cus i cant get into appearances to change the res
[23:30] <subone> tried using geometry and windowed but still changes to the "base resolution"
[23:37] <subone> seems it was opengl that was the issue
[23:43] <tgm4883> subone, that was my next guess
[23:43] <tgm4883> i'm at work, so answer are slow
[23:54] <subone> what are banners for?