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tyskahello someone, im having the following error when trying to connect into a instance through ssh: Permisson Denied (public key). What must i do?00:01
a3istdid you already transfer your key to the server with ssh-copy-id00:02
a3istor even set up a key in the first place00:02
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jameschhi, anyone around to answer my question about my FTP server/client config.00:38
gilsonneed help with openldap..00:39
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jo-erlendjamesch, this channel is _NOT DEAD_. But some times, you need to wait a little for people to notice your question.00:48
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jo-erlenddo you know the difference between ftp, sftp and ftps and is there a reason why you need ftp, or could you use sftp instead?00:49
jameschjo-erlend: I have a basic idea of the difference between ftp and sftp, not ftps. I'm using ftp because it's easy to setup? And I don't feel that I actually need sftp.00:51
jo-erlendit's much easier to setup sftp, and it's much safer. All you need, is to install openssh-server. It will give you shell access as well.00:52
jameschjo-erlend: ok, but will it solve the problem I have at the moment with permissions?00:53
jo-erlend... pardon?00:53
jameschjo-erlend: well, that's what my actual question was. I don't know how to set what the permissions on files that are uploaded will be. So at the moment they're being uploaded with the wrong permissions. I don't know where to change that.00:54
jo-erlendyou log in with your normal user, and the permissions will be the same as if you saved them locally.00:55
jo-erlendthat is, if you use sftp.00:55
jameschjo-erlend: and with ftp?00:55
jo-erlendI don't know. I haven't used ftp in ten years.00:55
jameschoh00:56
jo-erlendtelnet and ftp should have been buried a while ago.00:56
rgottenwho can help me with the error on http://pastebin.com/iwEqYvv4 i do use XINETD00:58
jo-erlendthat's why I asked that question before; unless you _have to_, you shouldn't use ftp, but sftp. Try it. Having SSH access to your system is useful in any case.00:58
jameschjo-erlend: I have ssh, just trying to find out how to setup the sftp server00:58
jo-erlendjamesch, if you have an openssh server, you already do have sftp.00:59
jameschok, where do I do the config?00:59
jo-erlendjamesch, what do you want to configure?00:59
jameschjo-erlend: the sftp server?00:59
jo-erlendjamesch, man sshd_config01:01
jameschthanks01:02
jo-erlendthere normally isn't much to configure though.01:02
jameschnope, I noticed that. Thanks, it seems to be working.01:04
pytherHello01:05
pytherAm I going to get a gui interface with ubuntu server?01:05
a3istnot by default01:05
a3istits not that hard to add one though01:06
jo-erlendpyther, anything you can do with Ubuntu Server, you can do with Ubuntu Desktop, and vice versa.01:06
pytherok, so then what do I need to do to add gnome?01:06
pytherapt-get update && apt-get install gnome ?01:06
a3istgnome-desktop01:06
jo-erlenddepends on what you want. ubuntu-desktop gives you the normal desktop environment.01:06
a3istoh that's it01:06
a3istubuntu-desktop not gnome-desktop01:06
pytherwhat are my other options?01:07
a3istunless you really need it, you might want to try one with a lower footprint01:07
a3istgot a TON of options out there01:07
jo-erlendpyther, you can use a plain ubuntu desktop install and just add the services you want. I do that for almost all of my servers.01:07
a3istfor a "normal" desktop environment, check out XFCE and LXDE.01:07
pytherahh ok, nah gnome should be good01:08
jo-erlenddepends, depends, depends. What is it you're trying to do?01:08
a3istpyther, gnome is pretty resource heavy01:08
pytherI am already installing ubuntu-server so I'll add ubuntu-desktop01:08
a3istI'd really recommend lxde or xfce for a server01:08
jo-erlendif it's a home server or a small network server, then using a desktop install and add services is much faster than vice versa.01:08
pytheryah I know, but I need to make this as easy as possible for my boss01:08
a3istoh01:08
pytherI was using centos, but it was just too old to support the new hardware I have01:09
a3istwell, what I do is I have ubuntu-desktop on my server but its only for hosting sessions occasionally for family members, and the sessions are created on demand by vnc4server.  For my own sessions I either go straight CLI or use the "awesome" tiling window manager01:09
pytherYah I use cli on my archlinux home server01:10
pytherput for this server at work we are putting freeghost on it01:10
a3istI'm on arch right now, but I made the server ubuntu-server so I wouldn't have to do as much configuring to get it up and workin01:11
pytherHehe01:11
a3istand its brand new hardware so I'm not worried about the extra footprint01:11
a3istalready unlocked an extra core on the amd cpu, and gonna tweak it more to try and get the fourth unlocked01:12
a3ist4x 3.1ghz cores....mmmmm.....01:12
pytherI got 4GB ram, AMD Tri-Core 630, and a 1.5TB raid01:12
* jo-erlend wins. :)01:12
a3istI have the 550 x2, with a third core unlocked; gonna try raising the voltage a tiny bit to try and get the fourth core stable01:12
pytherCan someone point me to a guide on how to configure what services startup01:15
pytheror tell me what command ubuntu/debian uses?01:15
pytherGrr stupid thing failing to boot01:28
pytherNever mind it booted, just took a long time and sat at a '_' for 30 seconds or more01:31
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a3istI've been digging through xmodmap wiki articles and man pages for a while now...anyone know how I can block mouse move (MotionNotify) events unless a certain key is held?  IE, prevent the mouse from moving the pointer/cursor unless a specific button is being held down01:40
jo-erlenda3ist, sounds like a desktop to me. :)01:46
a3istjo-erlend, its actually ubuntu-server running xbmc with a wiimote for controlling it :)01:47
a3istjust don't want the motion sensors to keep movin the cursor and possibly break out of full screen modes when trying to set it down01:47
rgottenanybody know what is the MasqueradeAddress01:48
pytherubuntu-desktop install everything literally01:53
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gbear14275anyone gotten pci passthrough to work with kvm on ubuntu 10.04?02:19
monokromehey02:29
monokromeDoes anyone here know how to fix my server's TTY text rendering off the screen on my monitor?02:30
monokromeIt's a 9:15 ratio resolution monitor, so I think that's related.02:30
monokromeOh well, I'll just set up SSH and wont need to worry about it02:36
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hggdhccheney: I am running a 2,000 instances on 30.2 right now03:09
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gondimj #ubuntu-server-br03:23
gondimops03:23
gondimsorry03:23
hggdhgondim: no prob, and I will go there also ;-)03:24
gondimhggdh: rsrsr ok. :)03:24
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hggdher. gondim, there is no such channel :-(03:25
gondimhggdh: are you brazilian?  :D03:28
hggdhgondim: born there, yes03:28
gondimhggdh: cool :D03:29
gondimhggdh: I'm thinking about migrating my servers CentOS to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.03:32
hggdhgondim: if that helps any, I upgraded two of mine to 10.04 already, no problems03:33
gondimhggdh: thanks :)03:42
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Yosihi all, question04:32
Yosimy box can run 10.04 for days no prob, reboot as many times as i want no prob... but when i shutdown, and start it up again i get a psck that runs, screen locks and nothing happens..  if i do a reboot, everything comes up fine...  I'm new to linux and 10.04... any idea of whats up04:33
twbYosi: ITYM "fsck".04:34
Yosisorry new to the ling... but what does itym mean04:34
twbI Think You Mean04:35
Yosilingo04:35
Yosioh04:35
Yosiyes!  LOL04:35
Yosiyes, thanks...   :)04:35
twbA fsck is performed after an unclean shutdown, and for ext[234] filesystems, after every thirty mounts or so.04:35
YosiI checked the raid many times and everything is fine with it.. always says Optimal condition04:35
twbThe system should not freeze, but for a large (say, 1TB) filesystem, the fsck might take an hour or two.04:35
Yosioh... see I'm running all SSD drives in my raid array, with no activity indicators on them (don't ask)..so for all i know they could be running, not freezing..  just seems to not do anything for a while, appears to be locked up....   the array is 450GB, and is ext404:37
twbDo a normal boot and then leave it for an hour.04:37
twbIf it's still screwy, you will need to investigate.04:37
Yosiwhy is it running all the time....  or do u think it may be just the once, and i keep on interupting it..so it does it next time   and next time?04:38
twbIt's running all the time because you keep interrupting it.04:38
twbThat, or you aren't doing a clean shutdown.04:38
Yosiahhh... one sec, let me do a shutdown and normal boot now and see if it clears up the issue...04:38
YosiI issue Shutdown -H Now04:39
twbGood.  That is the Right Thing.04:39
Yosifresh install of 10.04, LSI Raid array, LAMP installed04:39
Yosijust shutsdown so fast, cause of the ssd raid...04:39
Yosilet me try it now...see what happens, one sec..04:40
Yosibtw - b4 I shut it down is there a fsck log that i can see if its actually trying to do anything that i keep on interupting04:40
twbYosi: yes, it should just be /var/log/fsck IIRC04:45
Yosii just checked, but in that fsck folder there is only two files checkfs and checkroot and when i try to read them they both say "Nothing has been logged yet"04:46
Yosiso i will do a normal boot now and see what happens04:47
twbWell, it can't write to the filesystem until the root filesystem has been fscked04:50
Yosigot dsiconnected04:51
Yositwb: also on thwe next line it says "init: unreadahead other process (722) terminated with status 4"04:51
Yosiand now it seems frozen, but for all i know it could be reading the SSD array?04:51
Yosijust cursor blinking04:51
twbureadahead is just there to make things faster; you shouldn't need to care if it fails.04:52
twbYosi: what was the last message printed?04:52
Yosiahh, thanks...makes sense..04:52
Yosithat was the last msg printed04:52
twbHmph.04:52
Yosinothing after that just a blinking cursor on the next line04:52
twbDid it start a fsck before that?04:52
Yosifirst line says fsck from until-linux-ng 2.7....04:53
Yosithen next line was the /dev/sdb1: clean04:53
Yosithats my main array04:53
twbThat means the fsck of sdb1 finished.04:54
qman__so I got a new CF card and adapter for an old laptop, and hooked it up, but it won't let me create a partition table04:54
Yosiwhat ever that mean?  i assume its good news, maybe04:54
qman__I can write data to the disk with cat > /dev/sda, but fdisk will not write a partition table04:54
qman__always shows04:54
twbqman__: why are you using fdisk?04:54
qman__invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table04:54
qman__because the installer failed, as did a windows installer04:54
qman__and fdisk is what I know how to use04:55
twbYou should be using cfdisk, gparted or GNU fdisk.04:55
qman__I use whatever 'fdisk' is on ubuntu04:55
twbBut try writing zeroes to the first block.04:55
a_m_ywanted to use mod_evasive in ubuntu for apache2. tnx04:55
twbqman__: Ubuntu uses util-linux's unmaintained fdisk by default.04:56
qman__ok04:56
Yositwb:  I'lll let it go for a while and come back to it...   I wish the stupid SSD's had a light so i would know if there was any activity...  one day i will have to wire up a LED to the raid controller to know whats going on...04:56
Yositwb: does fsck display anything on the screen when its running04:57
twbYosi: that depends how it is run.04:57
Yosifaair ebnough04:57
twbYosi: I suspect your fsck run is finishing correctly, and something else is failing to start, or is hanging before it prints anything.04:57
qman__cfdisk has the same problem04:58
twbYosi: you probably want to drop to a busybox shell and debug the boot process, but I can't be bothered talking you through that.04:58
qman__when I open it up again, I get "Unknown partition table type"04:58
twbqman__: did you zero the first block?04:58
qman__yes04:58
qman__well, provided cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda does that04:59
twbIt should04:59
twbI would normally do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=104:59
Yositwb:  maybe i'll just let it run for a while..04:59
Yosimaybe its doing something04:59
qman__worth a try04:59
twbqman__: if nothing else works, bounce the box after zeroing04:59
twbqman__: but "parted /dev/sda mklabel msdos" should also DTRT05:00
qman__it did the same thing with cfdisk, and for some reason parted is missing in my environment05:01
twbqman__: it's not installed by default.  Install it.05:01
qman__one moment, need to find another network cable05:02
ccheneyhggdh: ok05:02
* ccheney was gone most of the day to the hospital05:02
qman__it's doing the same thing05:07
qman__unrecognized disk label, fdisk still shows invalid partition table05:08
twb14:00 <twb> qman__: but "parted /dev/sda mklabel msdos" should also DTRT05:08
qman__it does, but for some reason it doesn't get written to the disk correctly or at all05:08
twbWhat size is this drive?05:09
qman__3.8GB05:09
twbIs it connected using a CF-to-SATA bridge?05:09
qman__3753MB to be more exact05:10
qman__no, CF to IDE05:10
qman__2.5:05:10
qman__2.5"05:10
qman__I would suspect the hardware but I can actually write data to it and retrieve it, using cat05:10
twbTry another bridge05:10
qman__so I'm guessing it's some kind of compatibility problem05:11
qman__I only have the one05:11
twbAlso, tell me the output of: parted -s /dev/sda <<<$'print\nmklabel msdos\nprint'05:11
pogidudehow do i stop an upstart-job from running during boot?05:11
twbGo buy another one; it's the cheapest part to swap out.05:11
twbpogidude: do you want to disable it forever, or just from starting at boot?05:12
pogidude@twb just from starting at boot05:12
pogidudeex. smbd05:12
twbEdit the .conf someone05:12
twbEdit the .conf someHOW05:12
pogidudewhere is that?05:12
twbpogidude: /etc/init/smb.conf05:12
qman__syntax error, redirection unexpected05:13
twbqman__: are you using bash?05:13
qman__oh, nope, hang on05:13
twbSilly zsh users...05:13
pogidudehmmm..05:13
pogidudedescription "SMB/CIFS File Server"05:14
pogidudeauthor      "Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@ubuntu.com>"05:14
pogidudestart on local-filesystems05:14
pogidudestop on runlevel [!2345]05:14
pogiduderespawn05:14
pogidudepre-start script05:14
pogidude        RUN_MODE="daemons"05:14
pogidude        [ -r /etc/default/samba ] && . /etc/default/samba05:14
pogidude        [ "$RUN_MODE" = inetd ] && { stop; exit 0; }05:14
pogidude        install -o root -g root -m 755 -d /var/run/samba05:14
pogidudeend script05:14
twbpogidude: stop05:14
pogidudeexec smbd -F05:14
pogidudestop on runlevel?05:14
twbNo, stop with the noise.05:14
qman__useless recovery environment, /bin/bash not found05:14
twb!pastebin > pogidude05:14
ubottupogidude, please see my private message05:14
pogidudeoh sorry05:14
twbqman__: OK, one moment05:14
qman__I'll have to burn a desktop CD05:14
twbqman__: printf 'print\nmklabel msdos\nprint\n' | parted -s /dev/sda05:15
qman__lack of functional backspace is a pain05:15
qman__ok05:15
twbqman__: that's sh portable05:15
qman__returned nothing05:15
twbHmph05:16
twbTry removing the -s05:16
qman__both before and after mklabel msdos, unrecognized disk label05:16
twbThat's royally fucked.05:16
twbDoes /proc/partitions look sane?05:17
twbDoes dmesg say anything suspicious?05:17
twbI'm running out of ideas here.05:17
qman__yeah, looks fine05:17
qman__8    0    3665592  sda05:17
pogidudetwb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/447571/05:17
qman__I do have another CF card I can try, but not another adapter05:18
qman__I guess I'll do that just to narrow it down05:18
twbpogidude: try commenting out the "start on" line05:18
pogidudeok05:18
pogidudeso all upstart jobs are in /etc/init ?05:19
twbYes.05:19
twbExcept older systems which used /etc/event.d/ instead05:19
pogidudehow old?05:19
qman__hardy05:20
qman__maybe intrepid05:20
pogidudeok thanks..05:20
twbYou either have /etc/init or /etc/event.d/05:20
LowValueTargetquestion.... im making a deb package that requires another package but its in a repo I am trying to add in the preinst script.05:24
LowValueTargetCan i even do that05:24
gondimtwb: sysv-rc-conf not work in 10.04?05:24
qman__the other card's doing the same thing, so it's either the laptop or the adapter05:25
qman__I'm going to try and create a partition table on the card from a card reader05:25
twbgondim: is that the wanky curses GUI?05:26
twbI don't know anything about it.  On Debian I normally use "update-rc.d foo disable", but I doubt that will work with upstart.05:27
gondimtwb: yes rsrsrsrs05:27
twbI haven't had to care about upstart yet because I'm still using 8.04.05:27
gondimtwb: ah ok :)05:28
twbI used to like rcconf, but it's totally broken now.05:28
CppIsWeirdim trying to boot a box to install ubuntu-server via PXE network booting.05:30
CppIsWeirdthe tftp server is going to be on a windows box05:30
CppIsWeirdthe only guide ive found is how to do everything with two ubuntu boxes05:31
CppIsWeirddo i just put the ubuntu-server iso in the tftp directory and it will find it?05:31
gondimtwb: ummm I'll look better upstart confs05:31
twbCppIsWeird: PXE does not use an ISO at all05:34
qman__ok, I plugged it into another system via USB, and now I have a totally different disk size05:35
twbThe best reference for PXE installation is the Debian Install Guide, because Ubuntu uses debian-installer for all its install media except the "desktop" CD (which still uses d-i, but wraps it in ubiquity).05:35
qman__same CF adapter though05:36
twbqman__: is it a reputable CF card?05:36
qman__CF -> IDE 2.5" -> IDE 3.5" -> USB05:36
qman__kingston, 133x05:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #592018 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59201805:36
qman__the other one I have is a patriot05:37
Yositwb:  nothing happened after 30 mins or so, i googled the hang on fck, and apparently it a knowen bug in 10.04, a workaround is hitting a Arrow key, so i did that and now a screen comes up saying "Ubuntu 10.04" and 4 flashing/cycling dots below it, any idea?05:37
qman__http://paste.ubuntu.com/447579/05:37
qman__odd cylinders and heads05:37
qman__but I don't know what it should be05:38
LowValueTargetHow can i call apt-get from within a deb package installer script05:40
LowValueTargetfor instance postinst or prerm05:40
panfistmy first how-to, comments appreciated: http://frontiertechnologist.blogspot.com/2010/06/ubuntu-getting-packages-through-air-gap.html05:41
twbYosi: nope05:43
twbqman__: C/H/S has been gibberish for years05:43
twbLowValueTarget: why do you want to do that?05:44
qman__well, over USB it works fine05:44
qman__so it must be something with the laptop05:44
qman__thanks for the help05:44
LowValueTargettwb: first off I would like to add a source as a dependency05:46
LowValueTargetis that possible05:46
Yositwb: how long would u guess a fsck of a 500gb drive would take?05:46
twbYosi: maybe half an hour?05:46
Yosifair enough05:46
Yosidioes fsck write anything to the disk or mostly reads?05:47
panfistman fsck05:48
Yosigood point, thanks, brb05:48
twbA typical fsck run will attempt to repair simple problems, which will generally not add files, but may move files into lost+found05:48
LowValueTargettwb: basically i want to add a package as a dependency, but auto-install the source that its on.05:49
twbWhat do you mean "auto-install the source"?05:49
LowValueTargettwb: so basically my package will depend on packagex for instance. But package x is only avail on repox. I want to add repox to sources.list.d/ and run an update so the user doesnt have to manually add it05:51
twbLowValueTarget: that's just wrong.05:54
LowValueTargeti FAIL?05:54
ScottKLowValueTarget: If the respository is signed, you'll also have to add the repository key to their keyring and if it's not, it's a security risk.05:55
twbYou shouldn't be calling apt from a pre/post-inst/rm script.05:55
ScottKIn addition to being just wrong.05:55
LowValueTargettwb: that makes sense05:55
LowValueTargeti have the key logic already with apt-eky05:55
LowValueTarget*apt-key05:55
LowValueTargettwb: how should I go about it?05:55
twbI have been thinking about a similar thing, and the Best Practice solutions I can think of are: 1) provide a README.Debian that tells the user what additional commands to run; or 2) provide a puppet/chef manifest instead of a deb.05:56
twbWhere my use case is wanting to define an SOE that can be upgraded in-the-field, which also allows me to apply Ubuntu security updates in-the-field and is generally as unintrusive and well-integrated as possible.05:57
qman__gah06:08
qman__there's a BIOS update that addresses disk geometry issues06:09
qman__but said BIOS update is an EXE that creates a floppy06:09
qman__and said EXE is a 16-bit windows program06:09
qman__wish I could afford to just throw this thing away and buy a netbook06:10
twbOn my asus systems, there's a BIOS option to boot the BIOS update ROM that's on the board06:12
twbIt just looks for a file FOO.ROM in a FAT16 USB key, and installs it.06:12
twbMUCH easier than the old way where you'd need a temporary windows install06:13
qman__I don't even know if the USB floppy will work on it06:13
qman__it has a proprietary floppy connector, and I don't have one of those drives06:13
Mgamerzhow do i remove the boot splash?06:21
MgamerzI installed uh... xfce or whatever06:21
Mgamerzand now the splash F's up my loader06:21
twbMgamerz: you don't get a splash if you do a server install.06:21
MgamerzI installed uh... xfce or whatever06:21
twbMgamerz: don't do that, then.06:21
Mgamerz...06:22
Mgamerzwow thanks06:22
qman__ugh06:25
qman__the upgrade to lucid on my file server put a boot logo over top of the system messages06:25
qman__so now I just have to wait 3 hours to see if it's fscking or what06:25
Jordan_UMgamerz: sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-plymouth-theme06:26
qman__not having a good day :(06:26
Mgamerzi just uninstalled the gui06:26
Mgamerzqman06:27
Mgamerzthats what mine is doing i think06:27
qman__just says "Ubuntu 10.04" in the center of the screen with four blinking dots06:27
qman__hiding any useful information06:27
Mgamerzexactly what mine did06:28
Mgamerzpurple and orange?06:29
qman__no06:29
qman__"Ubuntu 10.04" is console font06:29
qman__the dots are white and orange06:29
Mgamerzyea... so is mine06:29
Mgamerzyea on a purpleish background?06:29
qman__no, black06:29
Mgamerzhmm06:29
Mgamerzmine is the same as that but purply06:29
Mgamerzi just did esc, and if that didnt work i did alt f206:30
Mgamerz(or is it ctrl alt f2)06:30
Mgamerznot on server atm so cant remember06:30
crazed__<3 Ubuntu06:51
Yositwb: are u online?06:52
YosiI let fsck run for 2 hours and no luck....  just stays frozon on the boot screen...06:52
Yosianyone else have the problem... that after a full shutdown, next time u boot up.. fsck run and freezes06:53
twbYosi: sorry, I don't care about your problem.  Find someone else.06:56
twbYosi: probably getting someone physically in front of the box, they'll be able to solve it much faster.06:56
Yosik, fair enopugh06:56
Mgamerzoh man... the situational irony of all the hype for longhorn07:27
NowhereBoyhi all07:28
NowhereBoyi need some advice.07:29
NowhereBoyis ne1 around?07:30
Mgamerzyep07:32
Mgamerzbut im not that experienced so...07:32
NowhereBoyhi Mgamerz07:32
Mgamerzhi07:32
Mgamerzi can only help with very basic stuff still07:32
NowhereBoyi am a newbie.. and I want to know how can I setup a small dev server on VMWare running on Windows Host?07:32
NowhereBoyohh.. ok!07:32
Mgamerzi cant help ya there07:33
NowhereBoyok thnx neway :)07:33
Mgamerzall my machines are over 5 years old07:33
NowhereBoy:O07:33
Mgamerzvmware was vaporware back then (figuratively)07:33
NowhereBoyokey!07:33
a_m_ycoulnd't din the xen-tools in repo. tnx07:34
NowhereBoy?07:35
Mgamerzno idea07:35
Mgamerzperhaps drunk :o07:35
a_m_ycoulnd't install ubuntu-xen-server cause it depends on xen-tools07:36
NowhereBoyohh!!07:36
Mgamerzperhaps not drunk07:36
NowhereBoylol07:36
a_m_ycoulnd't find the xen-tools in repo, even uncomment all in the sources.list07:36
Mgamerzlets see if mediatomb works...07:36
Mgamerzgo canola07:37
NowhereBoyi am really new too all this..07:37
Mgamerzwtf07:37
NowhereBoyso have very lil idea..07:37
Mgamerzcanola killed itself07:37
a_m_yappreciate for the help. tnx in advance07:37
NowhereBoy:)07:37
Mgamerzlinux you never really understand07:37
Mgamerzyou just learn it07:37
NowhereBoyit's fun thou!07:37
Mgamerznot if you are running maemo diablo07:38
Mgamerzbugssss!07:38
NowhereBoyi found a post.. to setup a dev server with Ubuntu-Server as guest and Windows as host.. on virtual box!07:38
Mgamerzwhats the date?07:38
NowhereBoyof the post?07:38
Mgamerzyes07:38
NowhereBoywait.. lemme look it up07:39
Mgamerzubuntu has changed a lot since most posts07:39
Mgamerz2008 is about the current threshhold for most items07:39
NowhereBoyOct 27, 0907:39
Mgamerzyou going to use lucid?07:39
Mgamerzi installed ubuntu into a win 7 box vmware07:40
NowhereBoyohh nice07:40
NowhereBoyyeah will be using Lucid07:40
NowhereBoyi installed Mac on VMWare07:40
Mgamerzall i did was mount the iso as the cd drive from vmware setup07:40
Mgamerzand did the install07:40
NowhereBoycool07:40
Mgamerzthen it runs like normal07:41
NowhereBoydid u install the server ed?07:41
NowhereBoyor the desktop one!07:41
Mgamerzalbeit much more latency07:41
Mgamerzno i had desktop then07:41
NowhereBoyok07:41
Mgamerzbut im running a server of lucid now07:41
NowhereBoywhat' r u working on these days!?07:41
Mgamerzmy 5 year old pos XP07:41
NowhereBoyok great.. maybe u can help if I'm stuck smwhr!07:42
NowhereBoyi just want a web/app server on my virtual server box..07:43
NowhereBoywill work on coldfusion and java07:43
NowhereBoyalso maybe.. i'm thinking.. will install MySQL07:43
Mgamerzmmhm07:43
NowhereBoyfor app server.. i am thinking of iPlanet(Sun Web Server)07:44
Mgamerzi don't know about the reliability of web hosting in vmware07:44
Mgamerzmainly cause i don't use it07:44
NowhereBoyok07:44
NowhereBoyvmware!!?07:44
NowhereBoyor web hosting!?07:44
Mgamerzcombined07:44
NowhereBoyok07:44
NowhereBoywhat are other channels i can visit on freenode?07:45
NowhereBoyu know.. linux/java/coldfusion related!?07:45
Mgamerztheres #ubuntu, but its super busy07:45
Mgamerz#linux07:45
Mgamerzprobably #java07:45
Mgamerz#coldfusion is rather empty07:46
Mgamerzerrr07:46
Mgamerzcoldfusion is invite only07:46
Mgamerz##coldfusion07:46
NowhereBoynice07:47
NowhereBoythis is a fun server :)07:47
MgamerzI used to use rizon07:47
Mgamerzi was a mod for a ds homebrew channel... i quit after too many noobs07:48
Mgamerzi do not like freenots hostname and vmask options07:48
Mgamerzfreenodes*07:48
NowhereBoyohh.. u planin to start nething new?07:48
Mgamerznope. I quit IRC for a while.07:49
MgamerzOnly back for linux assistance.07:49
Mgamerzhave you ever used linux?07:49
NowhereBoyyes..07:50
NowhereBoyvery little..07:50
Mgamerzhow little07:50
NowhereBoyi am a newbie.. in this linux world.. so still in the process of learning07:50
NowhereBoyfew months07:50
Mgamerzi see07:51
NowhereBoyi want a nice tutorial.. with load's of excersises.. to play wid..07:51
NowhereBoycould'nt find any07:51
twbWhy is #ubuntu-server suddenly getting all these noisy idiots?07:51
Mgamerzwell im not sure if you've installed ubuntu before, but server install is much more complex than desktop07:51
Mgamerzbut nothing too serious07:51
Mgamerzi used the mini iso however... it may differ from the original cd installer07:52
NowhereBoyohh.. is there a mini ISO?07:53
NowhereBoyman .. i am dldng the full blown version07:53
NowhereBoywhat is the difference?07:53
Mgamerzmini iso is a 14MB iso07:54
Mgamerzinstead of having a cd full of packages it downloads them instead07:54
Mgamerztrust me do not do it07:54
Mgamerzit takes way longer07:54
NowhereBoyok..07:54
Mgamerzbut my cd drive died and i had a 128MB sd card so i used that. i also could load the cd's iso from another flash drive (that i did not want to erase)07:55
Mgamerzso i didnt have to download all of it, but it was still slower07:55
Mgamerzand it F'ed up grub07:55
a_m_ycoulnd't find the xen-tools in repo, even uncomment all in the sources.list and do apt-get update. Afterwards, did aptitude search xen, counlnd't find xen-tools07:56
NowhereBoyso what do u suggest.. is the normal version doable!?07:56
NowhereBoywhat are XEN-tools?07:56
Mgamerzyea.07:56
MgamerzI can't see the server cd being more difficult than expert install from mini iso.07:56
Mgamerzfyi you're gonna see a hell of a lot of terminal07:56
Mgamerzon server07:57
Mgamerzso if you are used to gui then have some ice water07:57
NowhereBoylol07:57
NowhereBoyice water.. good one :P07:57
NowhereBoyno i'll stick to gui07:57
Mgamerzeh... im serious07:57
Mgamerzjust make sure you install nano not vi07:57
NowhereBoybrb07:58
Mgamerzvi is outrageous07:58
NowhereBoyi am comfortable wid vi07:58
NowhereBoynano.. is good too07:58
Mgamerzugh i hate vi07:58
Mgamerzi can't even type07:58
NowhereBoybrb07:58
* NowhereBoy is back07:59
NowhereBoyok..07:59
Mgamerzmy media server workssss08:00
NowhereBoywhy a media server?08:00
Mgamerzlistening to Just Surrender - Burning Up (Acoustic)08:00
Mgamerzcause its 5 years old08:00
NowhereBoycan u share some books on linux?08:00
NowhereBoyor can u point me to a site.. frm where i can dld some!?08:00
Mgamerzall i have is command shell and scripting bible08:00
Mgamerzand i torrented that one08:01
NowhereBoyok08:01
NowhereBoywhat is it fr?08:01
NowhereBoyscripting in linux?08:01
Mgamerzyep08:01
Mgamerzterminal scripting08:01
NowhereBoyyeah.. that is vry imp i guess08:01
Mgamerzi ran sudo apt-get purge plymouth-themes* but it stillhas that damned splash08:02
Mgamerzeven after the grub defaults too08:03
NowhereBoyhey man.. thanks for all the advice.. will catch you later.. i hv to go..fr now.. peace :)08:04
Mgamerzkbai08:04
Mgamerzthat guy is going to have a heck of time with server edition...08:05
a_m_ycoulnd't find the xen-tools in repo, even uncomment all in the sources.list and do apt-get update. Afterwards, did aptitude search xen, counlnd't find xen-tools08:11
elnurI've installed ruby1.9.1 and to use it I have to run `ruby1.9.1`. How can I run it as just `ruby`? Must I make a symlink by myself or there is a less hackish way?08:12
spezticlehey does anybody know where i can find the default /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl file?08:24
MasshuuSo i have a vps(openVZ) that runs 9.0408:35
MasshuuIs it worth it to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and get it to 10.04 or should i just wipe and start with a clean base08:35
Masshuuim thinkin just wipe due to possible issues from upgrading08:40
twb!do-release-upgrade08:41
twbGrr, stupid bot08:41
twb!upgrade08:41
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade08:41
Masshuui have a bunch of noob hacks and backports due to 9.04 packages not hacing certin things08:42
Masshuuwhich is why i like wiping08:43
twbMaybe you shouldn't install shitty kludges in the first place08:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #592058 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59205808:56
CVirusHow can I display grub's menu in ubuntu server ?09:01
CVirusubuntu 9.10 here09:01
RussnixHow often does Ubuntu (and most other distros, I suppose) need to be rebooted with and without desktop packages?09:01
CVirusRussnix: no need to do that09:02
RussnixSo a kernel patch doesn't require a reboot?09:02
CVirusunless you want to switch kernels09:02
sorenRussnix: Sure.09:02
CVirusbut this is irrelevant to your question09:02
RussnixHmm.09:03
RussnixI grow tired of having to reboot my workstation every month.09:03
Russnix(Windows 7)09:03
CVirusmy friend here has an uptime of 500 days with his laptop .. he's using it as a home server09:04
twbRussnix: then leave it turned off09:04
CVirustwb: good answer :-D09:04
Russnixtwb: I tried that once.09:04
RussnixIt still needed a reboot.09:04
CVirushaha09:04
RussnixAnyway.09:04
RussnixSomeone just told me you should reboot after kernel updates.09:05
CVirusRussnix: off course09:05
RussnixYou just told me a kernel patch doesn't require a reboot unless you want to switch kernels.09:06
RussnixWindows doesn't *require* a reboot either. It just doesn't apply the patches until you start the reboot process.09:07
twbOn GNU/Linux, an upgrade affects files on the filesystem.09:10
twbRunning processes are usually copies of the old files, and so continue to run the old version.09:11
twbNew processes will get the new version from the filesystem.09:11
twbIf you upgrade the kernel, you need to restart the kernel process to get the new version, either by rebooting or by kexec'ing.09:12
twbThis need not be done immediately, but if it was a security update than it's advisable to do it sooner rather than later.09:12
RussnixAh.09:13
Russnix"<twb> Running processes are usually copies of the old files, and so continue to run the old version." <-- what's the technical term for this?09:13
twbBecause Windows doesn't use inodes, it can't update open files, which is why you HAVE TO reboot more often when upgrading various things.09:13
RussnixThis is a facility Windows doesn't have.09:13
twbRussnix: erm, Windows certainly has processes, and they'll still start out as executables copied into memory.09:14
RussnixVista and later supposedly fully support rebootless non-kernel hot patching.09:14
twbThere's a crowd that provides that for Linux, with the caveat that data structures remain unchanged.09:14
Russnixtwb: but wouldn't the executable on the disk be locked as in use?09:15
twbRussnix: I wouldn't think so, but I'm not a Windows sysadmin.09:15
Masshuuwell i have my windows server(08) set up to automaticly patch, and i only hear it reboot once every 3-4 months09:21
Masshuuthough it could obiously reboot more often,09:22
twbI get the impression that Microsoft batch up their patches into big blobs, though09:24
twbMaybe they only release a patch once per quarter09:24
Masshuuwhen i look at it, theres possibly 1-3 patches(which are run at 4 in the morning)09:25
Masshuuso they could group big patches and kernal ones per quarter09:25
ljungkwhat do i have to do to enable sound on an ubuntu server machine? I09:27
Masshuuuuuh09:27
ljungk...have installed alsa but aplay -l says aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found..09:27
Masshuui always assumed sound was coupled with a gui, but im just a noob09:28
ljungkwell you can have a music player server09:28
ljungklike mpd09:28
twbljungk: alsa-base should be sufficient09:30
twbljungk: perhaps your card is unsupported?09:30
huatsI know I have asked that already yesterday, but since I got no answer ans since I haven't progessed I am asking again...09:32
huatsI have used vmbuilder to create a lucid guest on a lucid host.09:32
huatsI want to have a bridge connection between them.09:32
huatsAnd it is not working. The xml configuation is OK, the route seems OK, the brctl output too. And the guest is well configured I think.09:32
huatsDoes anyone have a idea where I can look ?09:32
ljungktwb: I do have alsa-base, and I'm sure it's supported as it worked perfectly on jaunty desktop09:33
ljungkI suspect it has something to do with which module is loaded09:34
twbljungk: pastebin amixer scontrols -c0, for values from 0 up until you get an error09:38
twbljungk: also pastebin lspci -nn | grep Audio09:38
ljungktwb: actually it was pretty easily solved. I only had to add my user to the audio group09:42
ljungkthanks anyway09:42
trapmaxi'm updating our server from 8.04 -> 10.04. how can i download all updates without installing them?09:56
RussnixUm. Download the ISO and upgrade?10:00
uvirtbotNew bug: #592076 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59207610:01
corpsephilly10:09
corpsesorry mt10:10
corpseIs there anything i can do on my fileserver to make streaming video work smoother?10:10
X-Sleepy-Xso if i wanna secure apache a bit i should install fail2ban?10:16
X-Sleepy-Xor is there any other solution?10:16
twbtrapmax: aptitude full-upgrade --download-only10:17
OmahnAnybody know if a FAQ page exists for converting init scripts to upstart jobs?10:48
twbOmahn: is it a simple init script, or a horrible complicated one?10:50
Omahntwb: nis10:50
twbypserv or some other part?10:51
twbYeah, there are a few separate daemons10:51
twbI would probably split them out into separate upstart .confs10:51
OmahnBug #569757 is a complete show stopper for Ubuntu 10.04 server for us10:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 569757 in nis "NIS upstart dependancy broken for lucid" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56975710:51
twbOmahn: I'm glad I'm not rolling out my lucid NIS server yet, then :-)10:52
twbOmahn: I think #upstart and the upstart wiki should be sufficient for you to write yp{bind,serv,passwd,xfrd}.conf jobs.10:53
OmahnWe're just interested in the client part.10:53
Omahntwb: So the recommended route would be to split them up then. I'll have a look into it, without an upstart job for NIS we're pretty stuffed unless we use some ugly hacks.10:53
twbOmahn: oh, I notice that there are also parts in /etc/network/if-up.d/.  You would need to fold that in, too.10:53
twbNot that I know a hell of a lot about upstart, other than fighting it.10:54
Omahntwb: Thanks, you're filling me with confidence ;-)10:54
twbOmahn: please be sure to publish whatever you work out (to launchpad or whatever)10:56
Omahntwb: I'll be pushing it back on that bug report, assuming I can get something workable.10:57
twbThanks.10:57
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trapmaxtwb: thanks11:03
rahmanHi, I need to setup kvm on my ubuntu server. But there is one thing that I don't understand in wiki pages, that about bridging networks. Real machines interface is eth0 and I want the real server is accesible from outside with one ip (like xxx.xxx.xxx.50) and also the kvm machine should be accessible from outside with ip xxx.xxx.xxx.51. How can I achieve this?11:36
halvorsHi!11:37
rahmanWiki pages says to make eth0 manual mode and bridge br0 to eth0 but this doesn't give me two ip's11:37
halvorsI have a problem with mysql server, i can't connect from localhost also mysql socket. Here is my log: http://pastebin.com/WTCJnkN211:38
halvors?11:40
halvorsNo ideas?11:41
twbrahman: are you using libvirt?11:41
huatsI cannot find any configuation file for dnsmasq by default , on lucid, is it normal ?11:42
twbhuats: did you install dnsmasq, or dnsmasq-base?11:42
rahmantwb: didn't setup kvm yet but if it will help me I can use11:42
twbrahman: libvirt should Just Work wrt. networking, I think.11:42
huatstwb, I haven't installed anything :) so there is just the dnsmas-base installed11:43
twbrahman: if you aren't using libvirt, I suggest you use kvm's built-in userspace NAT.11:43
twbhuats: the config file and init script are in the "dnsmasq" package, which is in universe.11:43
huatstwb, so how can I disable it ?11:43
twbhuats: disable what?11:44
huatsor at least the dhcp stuffs it provides11:44
twbhuats: I think you have not installed Ubuntu Server.11:44
rahmantwb: If I use NAT, can I access to virtual machine with its ip from my network?11:44
twbrahman: well, supposing you needed only SSH, you would tell KVM to connect your host's port 2022 to your VM's port 22, and then you could "ssh -p2022 <host IP>"11:45
rahmantwb: as wiki says I need to use bridging to access vm from outside11:45
twbThe VM wouldn't have its own IP, but the beneft is that it's a lot simpler to set up.11:45
halvorsI have a problem with mysql server, i can't connect from localhost also mysql socket. Here is my log: http://pastebin.com/WTCJnkN2'11:46
twbhalvors: try 127.0.0.1 instead of "localhost"11:46
twbhalvors: mysql treats the string "localhost" specially, because they are idiots.11:46
huatstwb, indeed... it is on a remote server so I haven't done the install myself...11:47
huatsand I haven't the ubuntu-server package installed (I have just checked)11:48
twbhuats: ubuntu-server isn't a package.  It's install media that don't install broken desktop crap like Network Manager.11:48
huatstwb, I know the concept of meta package :)11:48
huatsbut in my opinion there was still a ubuntu-server meta11:49
twbhuats: you'll need to purge whatever desktop stuff is there; probably anything that the {,x,k}ubuntu-desktop metapackages ask for.11:49
huatstwb, there is nothing like that installed11:49
huatsI have already checked11:49
twbhuats: is network-manager installed?11:49
huatstwb, nope11:50
twbhuats: aptitude why dnsmasq-base11:50
halvorsok11:50
huatstwb, libvirt is recommending it11:50
halvorsit doesn't work...11:51
huats(and I need libvirt)11:51
twbhuats: ah, of course.11:51
twbhuats: OK, I don't know anything about libvirt, but that'll be what's invoking dnsmasq.11:51
twbYou could always just try breaking the recommendation11:51
huatsok so in my case I need to install dnsmasq to stop the dhcp to answer I think :)11:52
twbhuats: wrong.11:52
huatsI'll try to break the recommends then11:52
twblibvirt is invoking dnsmasq directly -- adding an init script that also starts dnsmasq at boot won't stop libvirt invoking dnsmasq11:52
halvorsWhat shoul di do whit this? http://pastebin.com/WTCJnkN211:52
huatstwb, in fact it is a depends ... :(11:52
twbhuats: then you need to talk to someone who understands libvirt.  Wait here, and/or try #virt (#libvirt?)11:53
huatstwb, I am sure soren might help :)11:53
twbhuats: he's probably been scared away by all the young punks that flooded in here this week11:54
huatstwb, thanks !11:54
huatstwb, well he is not scared of me we have met many times IRL :)11:54
huats(well I hope)11:54
rahmantwb: do you have any idea if it helps me if I bridge eth0 with br0 and eth0.1 with br0.1 ? Do you have any experince with subinterfaces?11:56
twbSome, but they're really BORING12:02
twbThe brctl package has either a manpage or a README in /usr/share/doc/btrctl, I forget which.12:02
rahmantwb: Thanks, I will look into it12:05
halvorsWhat shoul di do whit this? http://pastebin.com/WTCJnkN212:06
halvorsAlso a mysql problem...12:06
twbhalvors: I don't know; ask #mysql.12:09
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RoyKhalvors: google is nice http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=1555912:35
twbHm.  Why does my proxy think that URL is an ad?12:40
twbBecause it matches "/bug\.php\?"12:41
twbStupid adblockplus.12:41
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sorenhuats: Sorry, what was the problem again?12:50
sorenhuats: Something about dnsmasq?12:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #592140 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient16 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16.0.0', which is also in package mysql-cluster-client-5.1 0:7.0.9-1ubuntu7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59214012:50
huatssoren, yep12:51
ttxhuats: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/231060 ?12:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 231060 in libvirt "packages dnsmasq and libvirt-bin conflict with each other" [Low,In progress]12:51
huatssoren, I am using libvirt to manage a vm12:51
huats(I have built it using vmbuilder)12:51
sorenhuats: Ok.12:51
huatsand some informations are given to the guest (like gw)12:51
huats(I have setup it as bridge)12:52
sorenOk.12:52
huatsbut the gw is not the good one12:52
sorenNot understood.12:52
huats:)12:52
sorenWhat does "gw is not the good one" mean?12:52
huatsthe gateway that receive the guest is not the correct one12:52
huatsso I'd like to disable the dhcp settings from the dnsmasq-base12:53
sorenOk.12:54
huatsbut I couldn't find any configuration for dnsmasq-base and since it is a depends from the  libvirt-bin I am a bit annoyed12:54
sorenYou could just make the guest not use dhcp, couldn't you?12:54
huatssoren, it is not using dhcp that is the weird stuff :(12:54
sorenhuats: sorry, then I don't understand.12:55
huatsI don't understand how the guest gets that gateway information12:55
sorenhuats: You're saying it "gets the wrong gateway"?12:55
sorenhuats: Can I see the output of: "cat /etc/network/interfaces ; ps -ef | grep dhc" in the guest, please?12:55
huatssure12:56
huatssoren, let me reput everything like it was since I have shanged some stuff in order to fix it :)12:56
sorenanyways, to disable the dnsmasq instance libvirt started, you just disable dhcp in libvirt's network configuration. Try "virsh net-edit default" and it should be fairly obvious.12:56
sorenOh, hang on.12:57
sorenIf you're bridging, that dnsmasq instance does not come into play at all.12:57
huatsthen I don't understand :(12:57
huatsthe guest is getting a gateway from somewhere. and of course it is not correct...12:58
linxehis it possible to configure IP level router failover fairly easily? eg if router a.b.c.d stops routing packets (but the physical layer is still active) switch to using e.f.g.h ?12:58
huatssoren, right now my configuration is messed up, I cannot anymore ping my guest from the host13:06
huats:(13:06
huatsI'll ping you once I have fixed it up13:06
twblinxeh: try #netfilter.13:10
zulmorning13:11
zulremember kids grape isnt funny13:11
linxehtwb: those channels normally scare me :)13:12
a_okI want a minimum installation (will only be running KVM) how much diskspace would I need?13:19
alvina_ok: 1.5 GB, but I'd go for a bit more.13:22
Omahna_ok: Remember to leave enough room for downloading + installing system updates. :-)13:23
a_okalvin: since we use a SAN I can always scale it up when needed. although I might want to have some extra so files wont be fragmented to badly13:24
a_okthank13:25
twba_ok: a truly minimal install would be around 256MiB13:28
twbGive or take 64MiB13:29
a_oktwb: but that would mean that I have to strip down a lot and not do a default instalation right?13:30
twbDepends how you do the install13:30
_rubena default -server install on a 2GB flashdisk is already pretty tight when you want to do-release-upgrade (depending on partitioning)13:30
twbI'm not counting Priority: standard, or a kernel, *buntu-desktop, ubuntu-standard, or language-base-*13:31
twbThe easiest way to find out would be to debootstrap or d-i an install and then du the tree.13:32
twbIf you use casper, you can get it down a lot smaller -- a kernel, ramdisk, and filesystem.squashfs for a minimal system is 80MiB.13:33
twbI leave such an image in my /boot/ in case my root filesystem gets hosed, to save me having to find a live CD13:34
a_oktwb: well it's not that importand to me. I just don't want to waste 7GiB if I don't need it13:34
Omahna_ok: A couple of gigs should be fine, particularly if you're using a SAN backend and you can just grow the LUN if required.13:35
twb7GiB is enough for xubuntu-desktop AND kubuntu-desktop AND ubuntu-desktop13:35
a_okOmahn: that is exactly what I am using. I'll go with 2 Gig for now13:36
Omahna_ok: That's sensible :-)13:36
twbOn real servers, I normally allocate two to four gig for the root filesystem, since I can online grow it if I need to.13:37
a_oktwb: Omahn: That will do fine than thanks for the advice13:38
OmahnNo problem.13:38
OmahnCan anyone think of a valid reason why install Emacs on ubuntu server pulls down libasound2?14:02
a_okOmahn: because emacs can play audio files?14:05
Omahna_ok: Really? Fair enough. Seems a bit silly on a server.14:06
a_okI have to agree on that14:06
a_okunless its a sound server (but than you would still not use emacs for that purpose)14:06
OmahnAgreed :-)14:07
twbOmahn: install emacs23-nox14:09
twbThe default "emacs23" is a GTK version, and pulls in lots of silly things14:09
Omahntwb: I did, or at least emacs-snapshot-nox14:09
twbHm.14:09
twbYou're right, -nox still depends on libasound (i.e. ALSA).14:09
twbI don't know why.14:09
twbReport it as a bug if you want to save that 200kB14:10
OmahnYeah, I found an early bug report in debian saying that -nox had ALSA disabled but that doesn't appear to be the case in Ubuntu.14:10
Omahn400kB ;-)14:10
OmahnNot that I care about that, it's the questions that will arise from the other admins when they ask why ALSA libs are getting installed for a text editor.14:10
twbEasy: Emacs isn't a *text* editor14:12
OmahnIt's an OS :-)14:12
twbIt's more of a desktop environment than an OS14:12
twbIt provides a set of libraries and a set of applications and utilities that use those libraries to provide a consistent look-and-feel.14:13
twbJust like GNOME or KDE.14:13
cloakableheh14:13
twbWhereas an OS would need to provide hardware drivers.14:13
cloakableShort: want a text editor? Get vim :P14:13
twbcloakable: ITYM mg14:13
cloakable?14:14
twbeven nvi is TWICE the size of mg14:14
twband vim is like 8MB14:14
cloakableheh14:14
* Omahn dips out - not getting involved in this one ;-)14:14
twbOf course, busybox-static might still include its vi applet, in which case you get it for free with your ramdisk support.14:14
sommermorning14:16
sorenWhy, oh why, is it so bloody difficult for people to understand that reporting a bug is a way of asking for help, and asking for help by calling people idiots and shouting and screaming at them for no good reason is really, really unlikely to give good results?14:24
zulsoren: i know i know14:24
sorencase in point: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcat-openbsd/+bug/59092514:27
elb0whow can I disable unattended-upgr14:53
TeTeTelb0w: sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades14:56
elb0wwill this hurt anything?14:56
elb0wit is a production machine14:56
lukassI've built a media server running ubuntu server lucid yesterday. Problem: the hard drives won't spin down.14:57
TeTeTelb0w: AFAIK not, the unattended-upgrades are only run by the nightly apt cron job14:58
elb0wok14:58
elb0wcron.daily/apt?14:59
lukasspossibly related, the raid5 process md0_raid5 is constantly running at about 25-30%15:04
Omahnlukass: I would say highly related :-)15:06
lukassOmahn: So it isn't normal, good to know :)15:07
Omahnlukass: md0_raid5 running at 25-30% could be normal, depends on how loaded those disks are or if they're currently scrubbing.15:09
lukassOmahn: they aren't doing anything. Or shouldn't be anyway.15:10
Omahnlukass: What's the output from 'mdadm --detail /dev/md0' ?15:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #592249 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "package mysql-server None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server.list] failed to install/upgrade: 子进程 pre-installation script 返回了错误号 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59224915:11
Omahnlukass: '/usr/share/mdadm/checkarray -s /dev/md0' will show if the array is currently undergoing a sanity check15:14
Omahnlukass: An active check will show something like this in the output of 'cat /proc/mdstat':15:15
Omahnd2 : active raid1 sdb5[1] sda5[0] 69685184 blocks [2/2] [UU] [>....................]  check =  0.9% (629056/69685184) finish=21.9min speed=52421K/sec15:15
lukass/dev/md0:15:18
lukass        Version : 00.9015:18
lukass  Creation Time : Wed Jun  9 19:24:53 201015:18
lukass     Raid Level : raid515:18
lukass     Array Size : 4395411264 (4191.79 GiB 4500.90 GB)15:18
lukass  Used Dev Size : 1465137088 (1397.26 GiB 1500.30 GB)15:18
lukass   Raid Devices : 415:18
lukass  Total Devices : 415:18
lukassPreferred Minor : 015:18
lukass    Persistence : Superblock is persistent15:18
lukass    Update Time : Thu Jun 10 16:16:34 201015:18
lukass          State : active, resyncing15:18
lukass Active Devices : 415:18
lukassWorking Devices : 415:18
lukass Failed Devices : 015:18
lukass  Spare Devices : 015:18
lukass         Layout : left-symmetric15:18
lukass     Chunk Size : 64K15:18
lukass Rebuild Status : 48% complete15:18
lukass           UUID : 81da332e:2d66582c:69b0e654:86e38bd915:18
lukass         Events : 0.2615:18
lukass    Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State15:18
lukass       0       8       17        0      active sync   /dev/sdb115:18
lukass       1       8       33        1      active sync   /dev/sdc115:18
lukass       2       8       49        2      active sync   /dev/sdd115:18
lukass       3       8       65        3      active sync   /dev/sde115:19
Omahnlukass: It's currently undergoing a rebuild, have you recently replaced a disk?15:19
Omahnlukass: Or had an unscheduled reboot?15:19
lukassOmahn: I've only built the system yesterday, and no, no sudden reboots15:19
Omahnlukass: Ok, in that case it's probably just building the array.15:20
Omahnlukass: It can take a long time, particularly with 4.5TB :-)15:20
lukassOmahn: That's a relief, thought something was wrong with it. Thanks a bunch :)15:21
Omahnlukass: Nothing wrong, perfectly normal :-)15:21
Omahnlukass: RAID builds are limited to a certain bandwidth, you can increase the limit if you don't mind the machine becoming *very* slow until it finishes.15:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #316257 in lm-sensors (universe) "[wishlist] merge amd  k10 (phemon) support" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31625715:23
lukassOmahn: how do I go about this?15:23
Omahnlukass: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/25/increase-the-speed-of-linux-software-raid-reconstruction/15:23
bjorany good with ldap?15:33
bjoranyone*15:33
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bjormore specifically using openldap as a central user authentication server?15:35
MTecknologyI wish there was a php5-cgi-lite15:35
MTecknologyand a mysql-server-lite15:35
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uvirtbotNew bug: #592272 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59227216:01
zulMTecknology: lite?16:11
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lukassOmahn: Thanks again. Learnt a bit about RAID today. Changing the minimum didn't do much unfortunately, 28000K/s is the maximum for rebuilding. I just hope it's not the maximum write speed :).16:22
MTecknologyzul: yup16:26
MTecknologyzul: Some really really light weight version of those that's just as powerful but but faster and lighter :D16:26
zulk16:27
MTecknologyzul: sorry, I was just thinking about how I switched from Apache to Nginx and things were much lighter with all the power I needed - There's not really an option like that for the other two16:28
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JackTOAfter GRUB, I see a blinking cursor and nothing happens in 10.04.  The Live CD works, but not my new installation... any easy way to debug and troubleshoot the bootup process, see what is causing the freeze?16:55
bjorctrl-alt-F716:56
bjori think16:56
bjordoesnt that pull up a terminal16:56
bjoror F6 i forget16:56
JackTOwhen it freeze, should i hit that sequence?16:57
bjoridk16:57
bjorcan you get to a login screen?16:57
JackTOno, before login screen, after grub16:57
bjortry it16:57
bjoridk anything else to do16:57
JackTOlet me try16:57
JackTOnothing happs16:59
JackTOjust stuck there... is there a safe mode or a step by step/line by line loading like windows?17:00
bjorIm not sure17:00
bjortry using the install disk to check ur ram or disks17:00
JackTOalready did both:(17:01
bjorIs it a particular old system or something?17:03
bjorsounds like it might be hanging on some drivers17:03
bjorSomething with the kernel17:03
bjorTry unplugging all your unneeded USB devices?17:04
JackTOodd enough, in my GRUB menue ther is two versions of the system "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32.22-server" and "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32.21-server"... just tried the older one and it loads fine!17:05
JackTOwhen i did an update, does it make two copies of the entire system, of is that just the kernel17:05
bjorI have no idea17:06
bjorBut it would have to make a temporary copy17:06
bjorCause it can't update files currently being used17:06
bjorSounds like it might be time for a fresh format and install17:08
monokrome]/me just finished two of those17:11
mathiazzul: great!17:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #592326 in apache2 (main) "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 11s! [apache2:22615]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59232617:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #592327 in qemu-kvm (main) "KVM becomes unresponsive due to waiting for aio threads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59232717:36
mathiazzul: could two pages be generated instead/in addition?17:37
zulmathiaz: probably17:37
mathiazzul: so that someone that wants to work on SRU can just look at one page and get the whole list from there17:37
mathiazzul: or may be add a links to the top of the page17:37
zulmathiaz: good idea, ill do that next17:37
mathiazzul: and put the unassigned SRU first17:38
baddassmuthaHi. Does anyone know of a case study where a Windows Server domain with Windows PC connecting to that domain has been replaced completely by an Ubuntu Server with Ubuntu Desktops connecting and authenticating against that server. I know how to joing an Ubuntu desktop to a windows domain with AD and Samba shares etc to a windows server/PC, but I would like to know the answer to my question 'if possible', thank you.17:53
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hggdhjiboumans: ping17:54
jiboumanshggdh: pong17:55
cloakablebaddassmutha: not that I know of18:01
cloakableI'll let you know when I get my network up :)18:01
DirtyDvmbuilder is complaining to me:  unmet dependency: ubuntu-minimal: Depends: lsb-release but it is not installed   - any ideas about cause?18:19
ScottKbaddassmutha: Samba 3 can't do PDC for Win2K or later AD.  Samba 4 is not released yet (it's an alpha grade system)18:19
spatI (or the installer) installed grub stage one on the wrong disk how can I get it on the second disk asap?18:20
spatnever mind found it size of the code area :)18:24
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ne7workhello all18:50
ne7workhow can i install gnome on my ubuntu server edition 9.04?18:50
bjorapt-get ubuntu-desktop?18:56
bjoror w/e18:56
godzirraHowdy folks.   I installed Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud edition and it didn't give me the information to log into the UEC when I installed.  How do I login?19:01
godzirraI got to the login page, but the user I created doesn't let me login.19:01
godzirraAnyone know?19:07
bjornarp19:07
godzirraI just need to know how to log into the UEC panel.19:08
godzirraWell darnit.19:09
Picigodzirra: Be patient, this channel isn't nearly as busy as #ubuntu19:09
godzirraI've noticed.  Its all good.19:11
godzirraI've setup my original linux box as a cloud controller (I think)... but it chose an IP address based on dhcp.  any reason I can't change that to static?  And forgive me if my questions are basic, i've never played with a cloud setup before.19:11
bjoralways use static IPs for server19:12
godzirraOkee dokee.  It didn't give me an option during setup.  Although I may have missed it.19:12
mathiazSpamapS: hey - re bug 49168519:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 491685 in memcached "memcached doesn't correctly daemonize" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49168519:44
mathiazSpamapS: in the patch a file reopen before the second fork19:44
mathiazSpamapS: shouldn't the file be reopen *after* the second fork?19:44
mathiazSpamapS: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50080362/lp_491685.patch19:45
SpamapSmathiaz: I know it seems weird19:47
SpamapSmathiaz: but that will result in the tty staying attached19:47
SpamapSmathiaz: I took the method directly from Proc::Daemon19:47
mathiazSpamapS: is this due to the way reopen_logfile works?19:48
SpamapSmathiaz: reorienting my mind.. let me re-read it19:49
SpamapSmathiaz: no that is correct. reopen_logfile closes stdin/stdout and reopens to the correct place. If you do that after the fork, you still are "attached" to your tty.19:50
mathiazSpamapS: ok - thanks19:50
SpamapSmathiaz: I tested it the way you suggest, and it kept the tty. though re-reading 'perldoc Proc::Daemon', it does suggest that it closes files before the second fork. Hrm.19:51
mathiazSpamapS: ok - it may be better to wait for upstream's response to the patch19:51
mathiazSpamapS: I've opened a bug task against the upstream project in bug 49168519:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 491685 in memcached "memcached doesn't correctly daemonize" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49168519:52
mathiazSpamapS: as you've pasted the link into the bug comment - I just cliked on also affect project19:52
SpamapSmathiaz: err, I already did that?19:52
mathiazSpamapS: ah - you've opened a bug in the *upstream* bug tracker19:53
mathiazSpamapS: I've setup a bug watch in LP19:53
SpamapSRemote bug watches19:53
SpamapSauto-code.google.com-79 #13919:53
SpamapSBug watches keep track of this bug in other bug trackers.19:53
uvirtbotNew bug: #539328 in dhcp3 (main) "apparmor-messages in syslog" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53932819:53
mathiazSpamapS: hm - right19:54
SpamapSmathiaz: is there a difference?19:54
mathiazSpamapS: hm...19:54
SpamapSmathiaz: one thing that really annoys people is that Launchpad projects get created for their projects without their involvement.19:54
SpamapSThough this would appear to have Brian Aker's seal of approval, sort of.. so thats probably no big deal. ;)19:55
mathiazSpamapS: :) - that's one of the goal of LP19:55
SpamapSThough they only have 1.2.8 on their.. and 1.4.5 is the latest upstream.19:55
mathiazSpamapS: well - I think that opening a task for the upstream project enables you to track the bug status as well19:55
mathiazSpamapS: so if upstream closes the bug we can get notified about it19:56
SpamapSs/their/there/19:56
mathiazSpamapS: I'm not sure if you'd get notified if you're *not* opening an upstream bug task19:56
SpamapSmathiaz: back to LP .. what is one of the goals of LP? To have a LP project listed for every project?19:57
panfisti was hoping someone could help me understand the default postfix configuration options...'local only' says "will not accept any mail from the network",19:58
mathiazSpamapS: to be a central hub for open source projects19:58
panfistso which option do i want if i just want a mail server for sending and receiving mail between LAN users only19:58
mathiazSpamapS: to enable collaboration between projects19:58
mathiazSpamapS: bug watches is one such example19:58
SpamapSpanfist: no outside email at all?19:58
panfistwell the network doesn't even have internet access, so nope19:59
mathiazSpamapS: if you use LP you can have one central place to monitor the status of bugs accross multiple projects/distors19:59
SpamapSmathiaz: yeah I like the bug watch thing, but it seems like you can do that w/o a project page.19:59
mathiazSpamapS: true - now there are other things such bzr branches19:59
mathiazSpamapS: where you can import remote upstream repositories19:59
mathiazSpamapS: (even if upstream repositories are in git, svn, cvs)19:59
mathiazSpamapS: and have them available as bzr branch via LP20:00
SpamapSpanfist: you probably want internet site then. Use a domain now, so that you don't have to re-do contacts later when you realize that email w/o internet is kind of silly. ;)20:00
SpamapSmathiaz: that I've done, and like. :)20:00
panfistwell, don'20:00
mathiazSpamapS: which is getting more interesting for ubuntu as we'd like to link the upstream repository with the package branches at some point20:00
panfistemail w/o internet is silly. hum. i suppose we should all just kill ourselves at our sight then.20:00
panfisti mean site.20:00
SpamapSpanfist: no, but you might want to wear giant shoes and red noses. ;)20:01
mathiazSpamapS: so given that you've got bug watches, code imports - it starts to be interesting to group them under a project20:01
mathiazSpamapS: thus - creating projects in LP20:01
mathiazSpamapS: to be able to have a quick view of the project ressources - even if it's just links towards external ressources (bug trackers, code repository)20:01
SpamapSpanfist: I kid.. you can certainly have offline email. I'd suggest running it like an internet site. If you want, you can certainly run it as 'local only'.. your users will need to set their To: to just the username then.. like To: panfist20:01
panfistspamaps what if you were a small business that depended entirely on owning a few important trade secrets, and if those trade secrets were leaked, a larger competitor could crush you in weeks20:02
SpamapSpanfist: I've worked with people who have to maintain two computers on their desks at work.. 1 with internet, and 1 without. I was really joking. :)20:03
Todd"N20:03
panfistsorry if i kinda snapped...i'm stressed20:03
SpamapSpanfist: I would be too if I was afraid the competitors were going to crush me in weeks. ;)20:03
panfistanyway, i'm trying to set up services and web apps like request tracker and a wiki that traditionally rely on email notifications20:04
SpamapSpanfist: that can all work, just set it up as an internet site.20:04
panfistok.20:05
SpamapSpanfist: nobody says you have to have root servers to make DNS work. :)20:05
Toddhttp://wiki.uberprivateserver.local  panfist@uberprivateserver.local20:06
Toddseems easy enough20:06
panfistok so i just paste that into a config file...?20:07
panfistjust kidding!20:07
blackxoredmy gwibber post message pane is gray, anyone knows why??20:07
blackxoredsorry, bad channel ;)20:10
* SpamapS pastes ASCII art of a huge trout slapping panfist around in a config file20:10
ne7workhow to install gnome on ubuntu server edition 9.1020:12
panfistyou probably want to do- sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop20:14
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SpamapSne7work: you might also look at tasksel20:16
ne7workpanfist, I don't want to install ubuntu-desktop20:16
ne7worki want to install only gnome enviorment20:16
panfistif you have to ask about how to install gnome, then you are better off installing ubuntu-desktop. ubuntu-desktop is a high-level package that depends on other packages that set up an environment just like you'd get if you installed ubuntu desktop edition20:18
panfistcan you answer the question: what part of ubuntu-desktop do you not want? if you don't know exactly, just install ubuntu-desktop, you'll save yourself some pain later20:18
Todd*cough*LXDE*coughcough*20:18
Toddalthough.. definitely still has a learning curve20:18
ne7worki need very simple server edition without any programs only with graphic enviorment20:19
ToddLXDE sounds perect for that application20:19
panfistthen you don't even want gnome, because gnome is a complete desktop environment20:19
ne7workwell20:20
ne7workwhat i need20:20
ne7worki need to play counter-strike 1.620:20
panfiston your server?20:21
ne7workand run half life dedicated server, apache2, mysql-server, php5-mysql, phpmyadmin20:21
ne7workyes20:21
ne7workwhen I install my nvidia driver..20:21
ne7worki need only wine20:21
ne7workand graphic enviorment20:21
SJrHmmmm at 6:30 this morning my mysql server stopped with a normal shutdown, and I'm not sure why.20:22
ne7work:X20:24
ne7workand now20:24
ne7workhow can I install only gnome not ubuntu-desktop on my server20:24
ne7workand what is the different between ubuntu server edition with ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu desktop edition?20:24
panfisti'm pretty sure server edition with ubuntu-desktop is about the same as desktop edition with ubuntu-server20:25
SpamapSne7work: Todd's right, give lxde a try20:25
SpamapSSJr: /var/log/syslog have any information about it?20:25
panfistnevermind20:25
panfistyeah, lxde is probably the best combination between easy and light20:25
SJrno Spamaps, just that the shutdown occured20:25
SpamapSne7work: you know though, ubuntu desktop isn't exactly "heavy" .. its actually pretty lean for all the crazy stuff it does. ;)20:26
SpamapSSJr: like 'mysqld is shutting down...' ?20:26
SJrmysqld[2743]: 100610  6:39:49 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Normal shutdown20:27
SJrmysqld[2743]: 100610  6:39:49 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Normal shutdown20:27
SJrmysqld[2743]: 100610  6:39:49 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Normal shutdown20:27
SJrWHOOPS sorry20:27
SpamapSSJr: I'd make sure that nobody has super user access.20:27
SpamapSmeaning mysql super user20:27
SJrhmmmmm20:27
SJrthere shouldn't be20:27
SJronly two people logged into the system according to last20:27
SpamapSselect * from mysql.user where super_priv = 'Y'\G20:28
SJrOh you think it happened in MySQL20:28
SJrhmmm didn't think of that.20:28
SJr5 users20:29
SJrhmmmm and Phpmyadmin, perhaps brute forced20:29
SJractually I wonder, is my syslog in current time or UTC?20:30
SJrprobably local time it looks like20:30
azloni am having problems with one of my drives in an mdadm RAID-520:48
azlonwhen i do cat /proc/mdstat it says my /dev/sdd1 is missing20:49
azlonwhen i do ls -l /dev/disk/by-id it shows up20:49
azlonwhat can i do?20:49
corpseok, im having a hell of a time connecting to my seedbox via lftp. its an sftp server so i use lftp sftp://username.site.adress.com:port  and i will be prompted for my password which i enter. Then when i !ls i just get the output of the directory i was in before i ran lftp, i.e servers /home20:51
JackTOcan anyone help me debug my bootup issue... 50% of the time it lock on bootup with a blinking cursor...20:53
JackTOafter grub20:54
MrWiseis the ubuntu server install using GUI setup?20:55
JackTOnope..20:55
JackTOjust the AMD64 bit server edition20:56
JackTOworking on this 3 days now with no luck20:56
JackTOhalf the time it boots fine, and half the time it locks20:56
guntbertJackTO: did you look into the log files?20:57
JackTOi did, i read the dmesg log, and the boo log20:58
JackTObut not sure how to detect if something is messing up the dmsg file is HUGE20:58
JackTOand the boot.log is useless..20:58
guntbertJackTO: the log files have time stamps - so on the next lockup remember the time - then you have an anchor point in the logs20:59
SpamapSJackTO: is there any pattern? Like, does it lock if you soft reboot, but not if you hard boot from poweroff?21:00
JackTOmostly from hardboot, softboot rarly cause the lockup21:00
MrWisesystem hangs shortly after I choose install ubuntu server, I see one line of text flash by and then around 12 blinks of an underscore, then it just stops21:02
MrWisethat's from CD install, from usb it hangs even before that menu21:02
MrWiseanyone know what's up? :(21:02
MrWiseI've installed winXP on this machine without any problems from CD earlier, also have a fully working XP install on it that boots fine21:03
guntbert!md5sum | MrWise did you check?21:03
ubottuMrWise did you check?: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:03
habananywindows channel address please21:07
Todd???21:07
guntberthabanany: ##windows21:08
habananyI have question about windows21:08
habananythanks21:08
JackTOI JUST noticed, something...my system locked up again..off a hard boot..  nothing works, BUT when I hit (Ctrl-Alt-F1), i gte the login prompt?  what does ctrl-alt-f1 do??21:08
MrWiseguntbert; yeah md5sum checks out fine21:08
ToddJackTO: sounds like you're switching to a different TTY.21:10
JackTOTodd: is that solving my problem?  seems to bypass the hanging issue on startup21:11
habanany##windows21:11
ToddJackTO: Do you have X installed?21:11
JackTOtodd: no, no x installed21:12
ToddJackTO: Weird. Whatever TTY you're booting up to is freezing, but TTY1 is not? Above my head.21:12
JackTObut after gub, the scren flashes a few time before the hanging or before the login21:12
guntbertMrWise: at that time it tries to enable the frame buffer, you could set fb=false in the command line, also you *should* be able to switch to another virtual console with alt+left or alt+right21:13
JackTOafter grub*21:13
MrWiseguntbert; mind explaining in more detail how I set fb=false and in which command line?21:14
MrWisealso, when should I switch virtual console, just before it hangs?21:14
guntbertMrWise: in the start menu press F6, then ESC (to get rid of the pop up menu, then you see the command line, I ussually remove "quiet" too21:15
guntbertMrWise: you could try to switch when you have the impression that it hangs and see if there is something happening on another console21:16
MrWiseah21:17
panfistregarding postfix configuration, there is a step that asks if you want to use procmail to deliver local mail. i'm a complete email noob. what are the implications of using procmail or not?21:18
DelemasIs anyone here familiar with UEC and specifically how the node controller caching works?21:18
MrWiseguntbert; oh and do I add set fb=false or just fb=false?21:18
guntbertpanfist: a severe warning : don't run a publicly reachable mail server if you don't really know what you are doing -- keep it strictly confined to your llocal network21:19
JackTOdoes anyone here know if CentOS is more stable, less buggy than Ubuntu server.. its my first week of working with ubunto and already encountered many bugs from not working with webmin, to random lokups on startup etc...21:19
guntbertMrWise: just fb=false (press F1, then F8 to get help on that)21:20
MrWiseguntbert; with just fb=false, and removnig quiet, it still hangs21:20
guntbert!webmin | JackTO21:21
ubottuJackTO: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.21:21
panfistguntbert it is strictly confined, no physical access to the internet21:21
MrWiseguntbert; but now it shows switching to color frame buffer before it hangs21:21
guntbertpanfist: in that case it doesn't really matter, keep to the default21:21
JackTOubottu - tried ebox and it SUXS!   webmin is 100% better...21:22
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:22
panfistalrighty then21:22
guntbertJackTO: it doesn't matter that it is better - it may play havoc with your configuration21:22
MrWisegrantbow; [    1.867660] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x3021:23
guntbertMrWise: and the neighboring consoles?21:23
MrWisenothing happens21:23
MrWisewhen I hit alt+left or alt+right21:23
JackTOguntbert: maybe since i loaded webmin, my system has been freezing on boot?....  mmmmmmmmmmmm21:23
guntbertJackTO: installing webmin won't hurt, using it can and will ...21:24
guntbertMrWise: then I'm out of ideas - sorry, it seems your system really hangs  :-(21:25
JackTOwhich is the most stable linux for a webserver out there? rhel? centos? suse?   i can't stand this constant hanging and crashing..21:25
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godzirrahowdy folks.  Looks like I have my cluster going... sort of.21:26
bjorJackTO: Ive never had problems with ubuntu server hanging..21:26
MrWiseguntbert; can't I just not make it switch to colour frame buffer device?21:26
MrWisemake it not*21:26
godzirraWhen I run this command to start my ubuntu instance, it tells me I don't have enough resources... what am I doing wrong?21:26
godzirrashawn@jomamma:~$ sudo euca-run-instances $EMI -k mykey -t m1.large emi-E11E108821:26
JackTObjor: both my physical box and my virtual box both hang on random boots...21:27
guntbertMrWise: that was the point of fb=false -- please compare what you typed with the help message21:27
bjorJackTO: have you ruled the possibility of hardware faults?21:27
JackTObjor: tried for 3 days to track any hardware faults down with no luck, but then again i'm new to linux, so maybe there are places i'm not checking21:28
hallynmathiaz: https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+activereviews   uh, did i do that right?21:29
bjorJackTO: Well just double check the usual suspects, RAM, HDDs, and USB Devices21:29
hallynshould i have listed you specifically?21:29
godzirraSo what am I doing wrong?21:29
MrWiseguntbert; so is the setup ignoring my command line input? :S or maybe it's hanging on something that's directly after that21:30
MrWisehelp file says fb=false21:30
MrWiseso it should be right21:31
godzirraEven sudo "euca-run-instances -k mykey emi-E11E1088" gives me "not enough resources"21:31
godzirraoops.  Quote in the wrong place.21:31
MrWiseis there any way I can install ubuntu server from within windows? or could I perhaps put the harddrive in another computer, install ubuntu and then put it back?21:32
bjorJust format and fresh install it21:32
guntbertMrWise: I just checked, it still activates a vga16fb, but I don't know why or how to prevent that21:32
MrWisebjor; so you think it's the windows install on this harddrive that's causing these problems?21:33
EtienneGrepost from #eucalyptus, in case someone has a clue:21:33
EtienneG<EtienneG> Q.: in 1.6.2 (UEC), does the NC honor the VNET_PRIVINTERFACE configuration?  Ie, can you have the SC listen on PUBINTERFACE for registration and communication with Walrus, but serve EBS volume on PRIVINTERFACE?21:34
EtienneG<EtienneG> I am talking about a standalone SC, CC service is running on another machin21:34
bjormrWise: I am not sure of your problem but formatting usually solves alot of problems with Windows ;)21:34
MrWiseI have no problem with windows though21:34
MrWiseit installed fine, it boots fine21:35
MrWiseit's ubuntu that I'm having problems with, bjor21:35
bjorWhat is the problem21:35
MrWisebjor; system hangs shortly after the message [    1.867660] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x3021:36
bjorno idea what that is lol21:36
MrWiselol!21:36
bjorGoogle it, otherwise I have no idea21:36
bjorGunna have to do some webcrawling21:36
bjorformat it21:39
bjorJust reinstall it21:39
habanany##windows21:39
guntbertbjor: please don't give random "advice"21:39
guntberthabanany: type /join ##windows21:40
bjorI wouldn't say it is random advice, if you waste more than 30 minutes troubleshooting an issue that most likely can be solved by a format21:40
MrWiseit is random advice as it's not related to the issue21:41
bjorThrow a frisbee at your computer, it might fix it.21:41
bjorThat is random.21:41
MrWisethat's just as random21:41
MrWisein this specific instance21:42
bjorWhere a format could actually fix it, I am just trying to help you solve the problem in the quickest way21:43
MrWisea lot of things could fix it21:43
MrWisea LOT of things21:43
MrWisethere are many things I would try that have actual explanations behind them, before I try those with none21:43
godzirraHrm.  Its not showing my nodes when I do "euca_conf --list-nodes".  Why would it not show up?  If I manually do "sudo euca_conf --deregister-nodes 192.168.1.99" it deregisters just fine.21:47
UndeonHey guys. I'm having a weired problem with my squid.. My server has 2 NICs, static IP. From server, I can access the internet without problem... And I can ping the client too.. But the client can't access the internet...21:47
guntbertUndeon: the client browser is configured to use tha proxy?21:48
Undeonguntbert: Well... I've tryied with configuration and without by using "transparent" on the squid.conf21:49
guntbertUndeon: I never used transparent, so no idea, what error do you get when you try with configuration?21:51
Undeonguntbert: It appears that the client can't "understand" that the server are a proxy server... The IE8 says "connectivity lost or site offline or DNS not accessible, typo error" etc...21:53
guntbertUndeon: in IE deselect "friendly error messages" - so that you get the real error and see if it comes from your squid, are you certain that the port is correct?21:54
godzirraIf I have a cluster and a node, why does euca-describe-availability-zones verbose still show only 1/1/2/2/4 for cpus, and all of my free/max  slots are listed as 0?21:58
godzirraeuca_conf --list-nodes/cluster show both the node and cluster21:58
Undeonguntbert: I've deselected "friendly error messages", but still showing the same error page... And I'm certain about the configuration on port21:58
guntbertUndeon: it really seems that you client doesn't know about the proxy, try the following (on command line) : telnet <yourproxy> <yourport>  -- if it connects the page stays black, then type get http://some.url, you *should get an answer from squid22:02
MrWisethe threads I'm reading seems to suggest it has something to do with my graphics card being an ATi radeon card (onboard)22:02
guntbert*your client22:02
MrWiseanyone have any experience with this problem then?22:02
MrWiselike22:05
MrWisecan I slipstream the proprietary drivers for the graphics card into the install maybe?22:06
Undeonguntbert: He cant connect... "It's impossible to open conection with host on port 3128: Connection failed22:07
godzirraBleh.  I'm getting ready to scrap this all and start completely over.22:08
godzirraI don't know what I'm doing wrong because I don't understand most of what I'm doing =p22:09
wieshkaQUESTION: is there way how to migrate from debian 5 to ubuntu 8.04. yes, i know, it is old version already, but i have specific software. Running virtual host22:09
wieshkalat night stupid questions ... :)22:09
godzirraCan anyone recommend a good howto?22:09
e_t_godzirra: a good howto for doing what?22:10
ScottKwieshka: Which release code name was Debian 5?22:10
wieshkalenny22:10
wieshkaif i remmebre correctly22:10
ScottKLenny is actually newer than 8.04.22:10
wieshkaaha22:10
wieshka8.04 is debian 4 based22:10
wieshkaits mean i need downgradinf22:10
ScottKIn any case, the boot systems are fundamentally different.  The odds of a successful cross-grade between Debian and Ubuntu are low.22:11
ScottKSarge -> Dapper was quite doable, but that was the last one.22:11
wieshkaScottK: it is clean debian 5 install22:11
ScottKI wouldn't try it.22:11
wieshkai just ordered today debian 5 64 bit virtual machine22:11
godzirrae_t_: Setting everything up.  I've installed ubuntu and thought I was close to done setting it up, but now whneever I try and start an instance it tells me I don't have enough resources.22:11
ScottKI'd reinstall.22:11
wieshkabut in the end - software supports says that they do not provide support for debian22:12
wieshka522:12
wieshkaand i need to migrate ubuntu 8.0422:12
godzirraScottK: Was that to me?22:12
ScottKWhy not 10.04?22:12
wieshkaScottK: i have only access to virtual machine22:12
ScottKgodzirra: No.22:12
godzirraOh.  not to me.22:12
ScottKwieshka: Oh.  I'd run it as Debian then.22:12
wieshkaScottK: the virtualhost is for zimbra collabration tool network edition only22:12
e_t_godzirra: What processor? How much RAM? How much hard drive?22:12
wieshkamy mistake is that it checked out open source edition support list22:13
wieshkathere is debian 522:13
wieshkayee , cool, better then ubuntu for virtual host22:13
godzirrae_t_: An old AMD64 with a gig of ram.22:13
godzirraI may just not have enough ram.22:13
wieshkabut network edition does not have it22:14
godzirraAlthough all of my free/max pool listed under euca-describe-availability-zones verbose is listed as 000022:14
e_t_godzirra: A gigabyte should be more than sufficient for Ubuntu Server. What are you trying to use the computer for?22:15
jethro_If I move my server (ubuntu, nginx, mysql, ffmpeg) from 32 bit to 64 bit platform is that going to wreak havoc?22:19
UndeonWell.. I've solve the problem about the client cant connect... From DOS, I can ping any site, but I cant connect by name (I'm using Google's DNS), and some sites cant conect by IP too.... =(22:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #592434 in openssh (main) "ssh -X user@machine hangs when using exit to terminate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59243422:46
UndeonEvery time I start my squid, it goes down a few seconds latter... Can anyone help me?22:47
_holmser_I finally got my postfix server up and running, but my mail keeps getting rejected by spam filters because I have a dynamic IP22:49
lzantalhi all22:50
_holmser_how can I set up postfix to route through another smtp server, but still show as coming from my server's email address?22:50
lzantalInstalled ubuntu 9.10 server on raid5 When I boot it I get this error and drop to shell "Alert! /dev/md0 does not exist22:51
T3CHKOMMIEhey everyone!22:51
T3CHKOMMIEI was wondering, does webmin work with 10.04 now?22:52
T3CHKOMMIEim looking for a program that will email me with information/ warnings about the server any ideas?22:52
_holmser_I was under the impression that webmin didn't like ubuntu's package system.  could be wrong though22:53
_holmser_you can still install it from source if you want too22:53
T3CHKOMMIE_holmser_, i was reading that the perl packages it uses are now depricated ?22:53
_holmser_could be... last time I messed around with webmin was a couple months before 10.04 dropped22:54
T3CHKOMMIE_holmser_, do you know of something i could run on my server that will email me if i have a crashed program or the server goes down?22:56
T3CHKOMMIEpreffurably something in the repository?22:57
_holmser_not off the top of my head... although I should really look into that.  there has to be a bunch out there.22:58
_holmser_I'm leaving work right now, but when I get home I'll google for one22:58
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King_of_Metalhi, I'm following the UEC/CDInstall tutorial on 9.10 but there is no uec-component-listener command. Is this relevant?23:17
SpamapSmathiaz: ping23:19
Rafaelhgas anybody use livezilla to ftp to ubuntu23:30
uvirtbotNew bug: #592442 in php5 (main) "fopen fails on some SSL urls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59244223:31
UndeonEvery time I start my squid, it goes down a few seconds latter... Can anyone help me?23:46
godzirraDarnit, e_t_ left.23:48
godzirraI had to rubn for my kids t-ball game.23:48
therianhey guys, so i installed 10.04 on a new computer and then installed windows 7 after it, which deleted the boot loader (damn windows) so now i cant get to my ubuntu install. is there an easy way to reinstall the bootloader?23:51
JackTOhi all23:52
King_of_Metaltherian http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/23:52
therianthanks King_of_Metal idk why i didnt find this with my google search...23:53
King_of_Metaltherian it happens...23:54
JackTOI got the wierdest thing going on....   for the last 3 days, I'm learning ubuntu server and linux, and 50% of the times i bootup the system after the grub and after fsck run, i get a unreadahead error, and the screen, locks up with a blinking cursor (50% of the time).  Well, I just tried to SSH into the box, and I can perfectly, loin as root not prob, but on ther server screeen its all locked up...  what do 23:54
JackTOis there an easy fix?23:54
theriancan i do it with any livecd or does it have to match the os? aka 10.04 64bit vs 32 bit23:55

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