| Mamarok | nixternal: thanks a lot, we went celebrating my last session tonight, and my aunt turned 80 today so we combined that :) | 00:15 |
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| === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying | ||
| Trouble_ | Dolphin keeps crashing for me in beta 2 :-( | 02:43 |
| Trouble_ | Also kmess seems to cause graphical chaos with beta 2 | 02:44 |
| * Trouble_ puts the computer in the bin and goes back to pencil and paper | 02:46 | |
| shtylman | any place I can get a list of all the packages we ship on a cd? | 03:46 |
| ScottK | shtylman: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/maverick-desktop-i386.manifest | 04:07 |
| shtylman | ScottK: gracias | 04:08 |
| ScottK | shtylman: Note that "we ship on a CD" actually encompasses more than that, since that is one image and there are several. | 04:08 |
| shtylman | I see | 04:08 |
| ScottK | That gives you the idea though. | 04:09 |
| shtylman | right... basically want to toy around with some visualization ideas or something | 04:10 |
| ScottK | Any reason we didn't upload kdepim 4.4.4 to Maverick? | 04:18 |
| CIA-91 | [kdepimlibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100611064742-3lyz53za3xuayhkh * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Make -dev replace the lib, since /usr/lib/libkontactinterface.so was in 4.4.4 (PPA release) in the lib and not the -dev package. | 07:47 |
| CIA-91 | [kdepimlibs] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100611064920-cp0fw9l3z244ceaq * debian/patches/kubuntu_01_increase_fail_timeout.patch revert unwanted change | 07:49 |
| * jussi hi 5's apachelogger | 07:51 | |
| * apachelogger hugs jussi | 07:51 | |
| apachelogger | jussi: wanna give fluffy alpha1 candidate a try? | 08:01 |
| jussi | apachelogger: not right now, Im at work | 08:06 |
| apachelogger | jussi: you are not doing that sort of stuff at work? ^^ | 08:08 |
| jussi | is it a new security feature or just a bug that I have to type my user name every login (it used to remember it)? | 08:17 |
| jussi | apachelogger: not today - its a bit crazy busy atm | 08:18 |
| valorie | jussi, I noticed the same thing | 08:19 |
| valorie | slightly annoying | 08:19 |
| jussi | valorie: I keep typing my password in the user field :/ | 08:20 |
| valorie | same here | 08:20 |
| valorie | fortunately, my dogs and cat can't read | 08:20 |
| valorie | lol | 08:20 |
| jussi | hehe | 08:20 |
| apachelogger | jussi: more like bug I suppose | 08:41 |
| apachelogger | you should ask ossi though ^^ | 08:41 |
| * apachelogger always thinks stuff in kdm is a bug but then it turns out ossi meant it to be a security feature :P | 08:41 | |
| valorie | turns out to be the opposite for me | 08:43 |
| valorie | since I keep typing my passwd in plain text | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | see, that is a problem, you are tying your password without first checking whether this is the real kdm, by not remember the uname you are not as easily lead to do that... | 08:47 |
| apachelogger | clearly this is meant to prevent desktop-manager-phising | 08:47 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: np | 08:49 |
| valorie | well, I shut down my laptop every night, so when I start it up the next morning, it darn well better be the real kdm! | 08:53 |
| valorie | unless my cat is evil | 08:54 |
| valorie | oh, wait | 08:54 |
| * apachelogger is scared | 09:01 | |
| valorie | we put a bell on her, so she can't sneak up on the birds | 09:02 |
| valorie | or me, for that matter | 09:02 |
| valorie | sharp claws, gads | 09:03 |
| apachelogger | see, scary | 09:03 |
| valorie | scary, and yet still a cutie | 09:04 |
| valorie | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1497498&l=6962600b02&id=507013560 | 09:05 |
| ghostcube | o/ | 09:08 |
| agateau | mmm, it seems my package of qt 4.7 with appmenu support does not play well with lucid kde 4.4 :/ | 09:23 |
| agateau | my machine threaten me to remove all of kde if I install the 4.7 packages :/ | 09:24 |
| agateau | are kdelibs packages tied to a specific version of qt | 09:24 |
| agateau | ? | 09:24 |
| shadeslayer | ok a bit OT,but which do i install first? Arch or Kubuntu Maverick? | 09:26 |
| ghostcube | mav | 09:26 |
| shadeslayer | ghostcube: sure? | 09:26 |
| ghostcube | think so | 09:26 |
| ghostcube | why do you want to install archi o.O | 09:27 |
| shadeslayer | ghostcube: im distro hopping :) | 09:27 |
| ghostcube | arch is somehow an ubuntu for snobs :D | 09:27 |
| ghostcube | lol | 09:27 |
| ghostcube | shadeslayer: try fc 13 | 09:28 |
| ghostcube | :) | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | ghostcube: heh... im trying it out,lets see how it works out :utut:D | 09:29 |
| ghostcube | :) | 09:29 |
| ghostcube | there is an working neveau | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: anything need testing in the installer? | 09:30 |
| * shadeslayer updates ISO | 09:35 | |
| Riddell | cor, it's a Hobbsee | 10:17 |
| Hobbsee | it is! | 10:19 |
| Hobbsee | upgraded my linode, and it connected all my default channels again | 10:19 |
| shadeslayer | wheee.... im in maverick :D | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | ubiquity is fail though.. if you click on skip frontend dies but install continues :) | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | omg | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | that is not fixed? | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dont think so :) | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | it is doing that for ages :/ | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | yeah i did see that on lp | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | http://fluffy.jussi01.com/2010/06/10/previews-of-fluffy/ | 10:43 |
| shadeslayer | i wonder if the ubuntu installer has the same issue | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | prolly not, IIRC the current ubiquity KDE frontend does loads of evil things in order to simulate all sorts of weirdness | 10:44 |
| jussi | apachelogger: ahh, so tsimpson set you up with a wordpress instance :) | 10:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that seems a bit harsh | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | well, it is manually doing QEventLoops | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | thing is, IIRC all that is just necessary so that no blocking happens when doing things with the backend | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | then again the UI is _a lot_ of code and I did not bother enough to look that close ;) | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | jussi: yes he did thanks for doing the hosting \o/ | 10:47 |
| jussi | apachelogger: you want to know something funny? | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | I might as well... | 10:48 |
| jussi | the machine that your website is on.... is a netbook :D | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | hahah :D | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | that is indeed funny ^^ | 10:48 |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| jussi | see - thats how cool ubuntu is :D | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | see even the fluffy website is so light :P | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | well, it is mostly made out of fluff | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | cant weigh much | 10:49 |
| jussi | that machine runs my 6 user quassel core, my blog, fluffy blog a few bots, and soem other niceties | 10:49 |
| jussi | its rather cool for an atom 270 :D | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: you run it 24x7 ? | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | wont it get damaged or something | 10:51 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: of course! | 10:51 |
| jussi | no, why would it? | 10:51 |
| jussi | it sits in the corner, being a good little thing | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | overheating/excessive use/etc | 10:51 |
| jussi | its just a small pc.... | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it is not an android phone! | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | one of the chips on my mobo died when i kept my laptop on for too much :P | 10:52 |
| apachelogger | those will melt if in use for more than 1h/d ;) | 10:52 |
| jussi | apachelogger: no.... | 10:53 |
| jussi | I have an android also... | 10:53 |
| jussi | been thinking of setting something up on that as well :P | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: i bet you run ubottu on it :P | 10:53 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: ubottu? no way. she is really heavy... | 10:54 |
| jussi | she is on some 8 core thing... | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | she? \o/ | 10:54 |
| jussi | !gender | 10:54 |
| ubottu | yes, I can confirm I am a female bot :) | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. i thought i varied :P | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | what fun http://pastebin.com/fcgcDhLH | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | heavy reminds me on large | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | large reminds me on marble | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | marble reminds me on fluffy | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | oh no | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | fluffy will come with marble \o/ | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | ill have to reinstall it seems :( | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | unless you guys have a idea as to how to extend my /boot | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did something break? | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | i gave it just 32 MB :P | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:56 |
| jussi | LOL | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | ohhhhhhhhh | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 10:56 |
| jussi | oops | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | does the installer not give warnings about that? Oo | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: seems i forgot the 0 in 320 :D | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | cause it really should do that | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: it didnt for me | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: bug report | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. yeah | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | to the bug mobile | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also you can probably use some partioner live cd thingy to fiddle with the partition sizes | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | i dont suppose i can symlink the kernel :P | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | you could remove the old one I suppose | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | then install the new one | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | unless the new one does not fit in at all, then this does of course not help either ^^ | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: there is just one kernel there | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | well yeah | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. will have to file the bug manually :P | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | one kernel -> remove kernel -> no kernel -> install new kernel -> one kernel | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | 2 bugs,one against ubuntu-bug and one against ubiquity | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: well.. im about to install arch as well.. so might just increase the size as well | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | are you sure about that? | 11:00 |
| * apachelogger would not install arch for real ^^ | 11:00 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sure about what? | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | oh... | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | why not? | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | breaks too easily | 11:00 |
| shadeslayer | im open to any adivse :) | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | especially if you are em and do not know what you are doing ^^ | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: vm | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: because its rolling release? | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | no, because you have to do everything yourself | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | see in ubuntu you get breakage for free using updates, in arch you even need to do that yourself ;) | 11:01 |
| * shadeslayer is having second thoughts about this | 11:01 | |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | I personally would install everything in a vm anyway | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | ok ill install kubuntu and KDE svn in kubuntu :D | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | have a xen or something and then stack other stuff ontop of that | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | then again my laptop does not do hardware virtualization, so I am not doing that ^^ | 11:02 |
| jussi | [13:03:51] <apachelogger> see in ubuntu you get breakage for free using updates, in arch you even need to do that yourself ;) <--- great quote! | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | jussi: awardworthy? | 11:02 |
| mfraz74 | is anyone else here using knode? | 11:03 |
| jussi | apachelogger: almost | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | dang, need to try harder | 11:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: just a quick question,suppose i boot a xen kernel,i can virtualise windows directly onto that? no need to open a VM ? | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: at times | 11:03 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: have you tried using it since KDE 4.5? | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: dunno, to make full use it requires the guest system to support fancy stuff | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: no | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | dont we use knode from 4.4? | 11:03 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: yes we are, but i'm seeing this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/592356 | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 592356 in Kubuntu PPA "Knode icons are too big." [Undecided,New] | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: looking just fine here | 11:05 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: oh, any idea what could be causing it? | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | a buggy iconloader | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | thing is | 11:06 |
| * shadeslayer shuns arch linux... huggles kubuntu | 11:06 | |
| apachelogger | question is... why do you have a question mark there? | 11:06 |
| mfraz74 | I don't know why the question mark is there, perhaps the icon is missing? | 11:08 |
| mfraz74 | just purged the package and reinstalled it, no change | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: bug 592594 | 11:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 592594 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity does not warn if low space is allocated to /boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592594 | 11:11 |
| shadeslayer | ok going to reinstall with bigger /boot ;) | 11:12 |
| jussi | sigh... plasma crashed | 11:12 |
| jussi | how do I get it back again? | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | wait | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | drkonqi should relaunch it | 11:13 |
| mfraz74 | Alt-f2 plasma-desktop | 11:13 |
| jussi | it didnt come back the second time :( | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | then do what mfraz74 sez :P | 11:14 |
| jussi | thanks mfraz74 | 11:14 |
| mfraz74 | i used to get that when using quick launch | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: maybe you should strace knode | 11:14 |
| jussi | ok, segfaults trying to use the quick access plasmoid | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | <3 plasma | 11:15 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: how do i do that? | 11:15 |
| * jussi installs the debug symbols... | 11:15 | |
| apachelogger | a) quit kontact b) strace -f -o knodestrace.log knode | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | ensure such a question mark is visible | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | then close it | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | and inspect knodestrace.log | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | it seems /usr/share/kde4/apps/knode/pics/posting.png is the icon it should be looking for/finding | 11:16 |
| jussi | cripes I wish that stupid "details" from kpackage kit would get fixed or go away... | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | jussi: that segfault is probably because of binary incompability | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | in case you recently upgraded somewhere | 11:16 |
| jussi | apachelogger: oh :( | 11:17 |
| jussi | apachelogger: Im running the beta. | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | quickaccess prolly needs a rebuild | 11:17 |
| jussi | ok, so lex79 or shadeslayer prodding? or someone else? | 11:18 |
| mfraz74 | posting.png doesn't appear to be in the log | 11:18 |
| mfraz74 | i'm getting lines like this stat64("/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/actions/l10n", 0x9a41ce4) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) though | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | that is an odd line | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: plz attach the log to the bug report | 11:20 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: done | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: didnt I fix bug 564263 :/ | 11:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 564263 in akonadi (Ubuntu) ""No resource agents found" error when starting for the first time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564263 | 11:24 |
| ghostcube | hmmm ok guys i going to update to beta2 in 4 hours | 11:24 |
| ghostcube | :D | 11:24 |
| * apachelogger needs to backports krake's advanced fix anyway | 11:24 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: is this backtrace any use? http://paste.ubuntu.com/448186/ | 11:26 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: could it have something to do with the kde-l10n packages? I'm using engb | 11:26 |
| shadeslayer | i can haz k.... again :D | 11:27 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: apachelogger just mentioned to me that the quickaccess plasmoid probably needs a rebuild - do you think you could do it and pop it into the beta ppa? | 11:33 |
| jussi | (it currently crashes plasma for me) | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: yeah same here :) | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: odd enough it does not appear in my strace at all ^^ | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | there must be some caching going on | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: i think ill have to upload a new package :) | 11:33 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: probably | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: any idea on how to import ssh keys from lp? | 11:34 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: which locale are you using? | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | dont feel like generating one :P | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: none | 11:35 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: Im guessing you only uploaded a public key, which aint much use to you... | 11:35 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: changing to german doesnt change anything though | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: maybe you should nuke .kde/cache-*/kpc* | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | or all cache for that matter | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: lemme just get this machine setup and ill upload new package :) | 11:37 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: thanks! | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | fortunately i got my pgg/gpg keys saved :D | 11:37 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: yaw :) | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :D | 11:40 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: still getting the large icons | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | iDunno | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: try #kontact | 11:41 |
| * apachelogger thinks about writing a fedex tracker plasmoid | 11:41 | |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: isn't there a website you can go to for that? | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | http://www.fedex.com/desktop/ | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | brrr | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: sure but that is no fun | 11:42 |
| ScottK | anyone here know about pkg-config? | 11:42 |
| ScottK | kdeedu needs a newer libindi, which I uploaded, but it still doesn't see, apparently because it doesn't do pkg-config right. | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: can you add my new ssh key to ktown? im uploading in a few mins | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | cando | 11:43 |
| * apachelogger tries adobe air | 11:43 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thats just eww | 11:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: it works perfectly in gnome... not in kde | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | well it used kdesudo for starters | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | that is a good thing | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | + I only need it so that I can reverse engineer the fedex desktop tracker thingy ^^ | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | and it uses kwallet too | 11:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I've a feeling there is something else where can use gpsd you know | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | and then nothing :/ | 11:45 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Me too, but I can't recall where. | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | right, the adobe air installer is a zombie -.- | 11:46 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'm doing a full checkout of Debian's KDE packaging svn. I'll grep it and see. | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 11:48 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ./kdeedu/kdeedu-4.4.85/marble/src/lib/CMakeLists.txt: | 11:48 |
| Riddell | that's the one | 11:48 |
| Riddell | ./kdeedu/kdeedu-4.4.85/marble/src/plugins/positionprovider/CMakeLists.txt:find_package(libgps) | 11:49 |
| ScottK | Of course. Right after I upload the kdeedu FTBFS fix ... | 11:49 |
| ScottK | That would make sense. | 11:49 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: new key is up on launchpad.net/~rohangarg | 11:49 |
| ScottK | Riddell: That's the only one (my checkout finished). | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: chang0red | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thanks :) | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | i hope ssh keys can be exported... | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: just needs a rebuild right? | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the folderview plasmoid is in kdebase-workspace? or plasma-widget-addons? | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | ah nvm | 11:55 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: yeah, a rebuild against the new plasma I guess. | 11:55 |
| Riddell | ScottK: there's no pkg-config file in libindi-dev | 11:56 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: its the quick access plasmoid remember | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: ah ok | 11:56 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hmm, FindIndi seems to use a strange mix of pkg-config and looking for .h files, usually it's one or the other | 11:57 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Any chance you could beat it into using the .h? | 11:58 |
| Riddell | ScottK: let me look | 11:58 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 11:58 |
| ScottK | Then you'd be well positioned to add the libgps-dev build-dep too ... | 11:58 |
| Riddell | true true | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: which package does the quickaccess plasmoid figure in? | 12:01 |
| Riddell | don't know off the top of my head | 12:02 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: plasma-widget-quickaccess | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: it has a package to itself? ok | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: can you tell me the version you have to the plasmoid? | 12:03 |
| jussi | 0.8.1-0ubuntu4 | 12:04 |
| jussi | 0.8.1-0ubuntu4 | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok.. | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | http://imagebin.ca/view/7mT7jl.html \o/ | 12:06 |
| * apachelogger is the uber plasmoid haxx0r | 12:06 | |
| ghostcube | calls apachelogger Mr. Pink from now on | 12:09 |
| ghostcube | -.- | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: gsoc welcome basket? | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: aye | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | ghostcube: cool | 12:12 |
| ghostcube | yeah... reservoir dog :P | 12:12 |
| * apachelogger is wondering how to process WSDL in plasma :/ | 12:12 | |
| ScottK | lex79: How goes the fun with symbol files? | 12:17 |
| ScottK | qtwebkit on armel is having symbol issues too apparently. | 12:17 |
| Riddell | that probably needs me or NCommander to fix unless anyone else has the hardware/PPA access | 12:18 |
| * NCommander sighs, wishing he had some FTBFS fixing time | 12:18 | |
| ScottK | OK. | 12:18 |
| apachelogger | well then | 12:20 |
| ScottK | NCommander: How about a rescore for kdepimlibs then? | 12:21 |
| * apachelogger cannot do fedex plasmoid unless someone comes up with sensible idea on processing WSDL | 12:22 | |
| * apachelogger aint is not going to do no html parsing | 12:22 | |
| shadeslayer | jussi: uploading to ninja ppa,it will get a higher build score,will copy over to beta when done ;) | 12:24 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: thank you! | 12:24 |
| shadeslayer | now why didnt the dialog pop up for the part where it signs the changes file.... | 12:24 |
| shadeslayer | gpg-agent... how do i configure that now.. | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: np | 12:25 |
| Riddell | _Sime: what's the state of the marble python bindings? | 12:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: For that matter, any thoughts about xplanet or avagadro in Main (I'm assuming R is out)? | 12:29 |
| Riddell | ScottK: R is out, I seem to remember xplanet is too | 12:31 |
| Riddell | what's avagadro for? didn't see that | 12:31 |
| Riddell | buildlog says it is located on my system | 12:31 |
| ScottK | It's in Universe though | 12:31 |
| Riddell | I wonder why the build log thinks I have it installed then | 12:32 |
| Riddell | hmm, seems I do have libavogadro1 installed | 12:33 |
| Riddell | ah, it's in the build-depends | 12:33 |
| Riddell | no mention in changelog | 12:33 |
| ScottK | Molecular Graphics and Modelling System | 12:34 |
| ScottK | IIRC it was once part of kdeedu and then was split out. | 12:34 |
| Riddell | really? no MIR needed if that's the case | 12:34 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: i've just tried opening knode as a different user on this computer and the icons are ok. tried removing all knode configs, but still have problems with this user | 12:34 |
| ScottK | Let me investigate | 12:36 |
| ScottK | It appears I remember incorrectly. | 12:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: kdeedu in 4.4.3 had kalzium/libavogadro-kalzium | 12:37 |
| Riddell | but it's not the same as avogadro | 12:37 |
| Riddell | maybe it's a copy of some parts of avogadro | 12:37 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: im copying the packages now,can you test them | 12:38 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: nice. thanks | 12:38 |
| Riddell | yes looks like a copy of libavogadro/src/dddd | 12:39 |
| Riddell | so MIR needed there then | 12:39 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: hmm.. theyre still waiting to be published... :) | 12:40 |
| ScottK | Anyone up for doing a MIR? | 12:40 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: sure | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | the bug filing part i can do :) | 12:41 |
| ScottK | Need you to do the writing part too. | 12:41 |
| ScottK | avogardo ... | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: the description? ok np | 12:41 |
| ScottK | Ahh. | 12:41 |
| ScottK | avagadro <--- | 12:41 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ^^ | 12:42 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | mfraz74: try logging out - nuking the cache - login back in | 12:42 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: what do we need it for? | 12:42 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: package copied | 12:43 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: build-depends for kdeedu. | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 12:44 |
| shadeslayer | oh noes.. i forgot to sync all my git and svn checkouts to my HD -.- | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | ok brb.. nvidia wants a reboot :) | 12:46 |
| mfraz74 | apachelogger: fixed it. i hadn't realised .kde/cache-* was a link to /var/tmp/kdecache-* removing that folder fixed the icons | 12:47 |
| mfraz74 | sorry for wasting your time | 12:51 |
| mfraz74 | is the quickaccess bug being looked into or do I need to file a bug here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/quickaccess/ ? | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | hmmmm ... no show desktop plasmoid anymore? | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: did the upgrade work? | 13:06 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: on a conference call | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | oh no problem :) | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: where did the show desktop plasmoid go in maverick? | 13:08 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: their reasoning is completely falwed, pretending that they are respecting freedesktop.org policy, and at the sametime blatantly violate that by overriding the chosen theme by ugly monochrome svgs in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/ | 13:10 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I don't know | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: bug 592640 | 13:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 592640 in avogadro (Ubuntu) "[MIR] avogadro" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592640 | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: should i push the changes for kdeaccessiblity in my bzr branch? ( the transitional package ) | 13:39 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I'd prefer a debdiff somewhere if I'm going to sponsor it. | 13:59 |
| Riddell | his bzr branch would be the diff surely | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: ping | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | btw for maverick,in the changelog , do i write unstable or unreleased | 14:03 |
| Riddell | not unstable, that's Debian | 14:04 |
| Riddell | if it's unreleased use UNRELEASED | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 14:04 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: You need to list the MIR questions and answers in the bug one by one. | 14:09 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes, but I do better with diff and patch than bzr and merging. | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: oh ... | 14:09 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: No problem. Just edit the bug. | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: will do in a second :) | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | bzr crashes with this : http://pastebin.com/VnUWUV1d | 14:10 |
| ScottK | Cool. I'd file a bug. | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | doing that as well :P | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | apart from that there was a kernel panic as well :D | 14:12 |
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| shadeslayer | ScottK: does this look ok : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/control | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | the new transitional package for kttsd | 14:24 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Doesn't need shlibs and jovie should conflict/replace << 4:4.85.0 | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | ok... will update that | 14:29 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: For the description, you keep the old kttsd description and just add the "This is a transitional package ..." at the end. | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: kttsd doesnt need shlibs right? | 14:29 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Correct | 14:30 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Also the depends for kdeaccessbility need updating. It should depend on all the other binaries (except not the transitional package). | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: so i just add the binary package names in the depends section right? | 14:31 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Yes. | 14:32 |
| ScottK | Riddell: kdeedu in New and it's my upload, so would you please have a look. | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | hehe.. MIR page has a incorrect link to debians policy manual :P | 14:37 |
| Riddell | ~ | 14:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: err, really? what's new? | 14:40 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Didn't look. | 14:41 |
| * ScottK just fixed the build. | 14:41 | |
| shadeslayer | is pdo down> | 14:41 |
| Riddell | ScottK: your indi package has a debian/ directory in the .orig tar | 14:47 |
| ScottK | Riddell: That's how upstream ships it. | 14:47 |
| ScottK | I just threw ours over it. | 14:47 |
| Riddell | fair enough, I prefer removing it from the tar in such cases | 14:48 |
| Riddell | it makes the evil .ex files reappear when you download it | 14:49 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1137047 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.h ++apidox | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | If you use source format 3.0, it'll automagically remove upstream debian dirs | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | when packing the source | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ok bug 592640 updated | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 592640 in avogadro (Ubuntu) "[MIR] avogadro" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592640 | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: and new control file for accessibility http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/control | 14:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: there's no requirement to list the MIR questions and answers in the bug one by one these days | 14:52 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. I thought it was just doing that in the bug and not on a wiki. | 14:53 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I'm back, I can do symbol stuff now ;) | 14:55 |
| ScottK | lex79: Great. | 14:55 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I think the MIR bug is good. | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: :D | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: theres a missing , in the control file after jovie.. im pushing that change now | 14:56 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Great. I was just typing about that. | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | done | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: everything else good to go? | 14:57 |
| * ScottK looks again. | 14:57 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: The short description for kttsd should be the old one too. | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: hmm.. ok,i wasnt sure about that,so i didnt make that change | 14:59 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: btw : a Text-to-Speech system for KDE can be changed to : A Text-to-Speech system for KDE | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | trivial change.... ;) | 15:01 |
| shadeslayer | or do we keep it because we dont want delta with debian | 15:01 |
| ScottK | I'd keep it the same. | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | anything else? | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | new changes are up :) | 15:04 |
| * Riddell gets round to kde-l10n | 15:04 | |
| === _EagleScreen is now known as pepe | ||
| === pepe is now known as _EagleScreen | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw can you sponsor a upload of the VLC backend of phonon? | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | doesnt seem to be in the repo | 15:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I thought it was waiting on a newer vlc version | 15:08 |
| Riddell | debfx had it in his PPA | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: seems to have built in the PPA | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | https://edge.launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/experimental/+packages | 15:09 |
| Riddell | that doesn't mean it works :) | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | heeh | 15:10 |
| * shadeslayer tests | 15:10 | |
| Riddell | he has vlc 1.1 in there which isn't in maverick | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: can you fire up your ktorrent an seed fluffy? | 15:16 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: seeding | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | perfect | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | thx | 15:17 |
| * apachelogger is feeling hot today :/ | 15:17 | |
| JontheEchidna | no prob | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: weather graz, austria | 15:17 |
| kubotu | Weather info for Graz-Andritz, Graz, Austria (updated on 4:15 PM CEST on June 11, 2010); Temperature: 95.0 F / 35.0 C; Humidity: -999%; Wind: North at -; Pressure: - (Falling); Conditions: Clear; Sunrise: 5:03 AM CEST; Sunset: 8:52 PM CEST; Moon Rise: 3:45 AM CEST; Moon Set: 8:14 PM CEST; Moon Phase: Waning Crescent | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | look at the humidity!!! | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | omg | 15:17 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1137060 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h worker/worker.cpp) (log message trimmed) | 15:18 |
| CIA-91 | Use pkgCache::FindPkg() instead of our hown-grown "iterate through all packages | 15:18 |
| CIA-91 | to find the one we want, comparing by name" method. Cuts the amount of nested | 15:18 |
| JontheEchidna | No leechers connected to me yet, though :( | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: weather Gurgaon,India | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | this trackerless torrenting is very weird IMHO | 15:19 |
| kubotu | Weather info for New Delhi, India (updated on 7:00 PM IST on June 11, 2010); Temperature: 102 F / 39 C; Humidity: 20%; Dew Point: 54 F / 12 C; Wind: NW at 12 mph / 18 km/h; Pressure: 29.50 in / 999 hPa (Steady); Conditions: Unknown; Yesterday's Cooling Degree Days: 31 approx.; Sunrise: 5:24 AM IST; Sunset: 7:19 PM IST; Moon Rise: 3:59 AM IST; Moon Set: 6:24 PM IST; Moon Phase: Waning Crescent | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | I have two dudes from linuxtag connected to me it seems | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | kubotu: weather concord, new hampshire | 15:19 |
| kubotu | Weather info for Concord, New Hampshire (updated on 9:58 AM EDT on June 11, 2010); Temperature: 57 F / 14 C; Humidity: 88%; Dew Point: 54 F / 12 C; Wind: Variable at 5 mph / 7 km/h; Pressure: 30.17 in / 1022 hPa (Steady); Conditions: Overcast; Visibility: 10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers; UV: 2 out of 16; Clouds: Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 1300 ft / 396 m Overcast (OVC) : 2100 ft / 640 m; Yesterday's Maximum: 58 F / 14 C; | 15:19 |
| kubotu | Yesterday's Minimum: 52 F / 11 C; Yesterday's Heating Degree Days: 10; Sunrise: 5:05 AM EDT; Sunset: 8:25 PM EDT; Moon Rise: 4:00 AM EDT; Moon Set: 8:01 PM EDT; Moon Phase: Waning Crescent | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | yet they apparently do not interchange data | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | VERY WEIRD | 15:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think anybody's interchaning data. sebner and I weren't yesterday :( | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | that would make me the only node though | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | which is probably not the point of torrenting | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: when you redownload the torrent, does this change anything? | 15:21 |
| * apachelogger figures that maybe people are not on the same dht nodes | 15:21 | |
| apachelogger | although I think the nodes should also be interchanging hashes *shrug* | 15:21 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: where's the torrent again? | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/fluffy-snapshot.torrent | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | in my networking lecture we learned how gnutella works.... but not a word about torrent | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | ok. let's see | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | this is all very dated IMHO | 15:22 |
| Riddell | I always thought gnutella was just a way of annoying AOL rather than anything which worked | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | well it is a very inefficient protocol, I know that much... it is a bit like distributed hash tables just not really ... so yeah, it is probably just a way of annoying AOL ^^ | 15:24 |
| Riddell | [15:24:09] got bad file info - bad torrent file - announce is invalid | 15:24 |
| Riddell | fluffy not working :( | 15:24 |
| alleehol | kaddressbook/akonadi: fresh lucid install + 4.4.4 upgrade. New user, first login, start kontact: no resource agents found | 15:27 |
| alleehol | Looks like akonadi has trouble since 4.4.4. Was more or less fine in 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 :( | 15:28 |
| alleehol | ups, wrong channel :( | 15:28 |
| alleehol | err, right channel. c&p ;) | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you have DHT turned on? | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: still no peers? | 15:32 |
| JontheEchidna | nope | 15:32 |
| * apachelogger goes reading about dht then ^^ | 15:33 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: tried manual announce? | 15:33 |
| JontheEchidna | trying | 15:33 |
| JontheEchidna | I can manually add a peer given an IP address and port | 15:33 |
| JontheEchidna | (The UPnP port) | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)#Distributed_trackers | 15:34 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: whatever is dht? | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | any kubuntu packages that need love? | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: btw should i ask for a merge of accessibility? | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that what the wikipedia page talks about | 15:35 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Sure. | 15:35 |
| * ScottK is willing to experiment. | 15:35 | |
| shadeslayer | :) | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: usually with torrents you need a central node that manages all sharing parties (that thing is called tracker) ... with dht you have a distributed approach with a node cloud and no tracker | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | currenlty however usually one would use a combination of both | 15:36 |
| JontheEchidna | switches > if... else if | 15:37 |
| JontheEchidna | ...and this would make more sense if CIA were faster. ;) | 15:38 |
| JontheEchidna | lart CIA-91 | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: man, you do not make sense :P | 15:38 |
| JontheEchidna | ~lart CIA-91 | 15:38 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1137069 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Use a switch statement here to make things a bit more readable. | 15:38 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/+merge/27365 | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what happens when you try adding 84.119.15.193 as peer? | 15:40 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: what's the port? | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: 6881 I suppose | 15:41 |
| JontheEchidna | (Clicking Add doesnt' do anything with the default port :( | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | now also with udp for the utp protocol ;) | 15:42 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Now that I see the diff, why did you move jovie to the bottom of debian/control? | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: odd | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | Fr. Jun 11 16:42:24 2010: UTP: established connection with [::ffff:173.9.*.*]:31230 | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: suppose this is you? | 15:43 |
| === steveire_ is now known as steveire | ||
| JontheEchidna | I guess | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | I just saw a peer, but then it disappeared in a flash | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | New Hampshire ^^ | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | yep yep | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: maybe seeders do not show up in the peer list | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | also I wonder why we are connected via utp ^^ | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | do you see a german peer? | 15:44 |
| * ScottK is suprised to see apachelogger view anyone as a peer. | 15:49 | |
| apachelogger | huh? | 15:49 |
| ScottK | You're generally fairly clear on your overall wonderfullness. | 15:50 |
| ScottK | (peer is an overloaded term in this case) | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | member peer cannot be overloaded in this context | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I was meaning that JontheEchidna would see a peer :P | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | I do only have "Gegenstellen" here | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: KTorrent isn't listing any peers, either connected or in my swarm | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | you are a poor man, without any peers :( | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | well, I do not get it | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | you are clearly connected to me | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | and I am connected to fregl | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | applying sane logic one would be led to assume that me and you would be exchanging fregl as peer | 15:53 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm not even seeing that I am connected to you O.o | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: hmm.. is it necessary to have it in the same place? | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | but apparenlty torrent is not working that way | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well, we are not exchanging data | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | I am just pinging you every once in a while | 15:53 |
| JontheEchidna | ah | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: Rhonda told me that it would be better if the new package was at the bottom.... | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: You can put them anywhere, but putting them last is a good idea. | 15:54 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1137073 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Don't say we've finished updating the cache succesfully if we've really failed. | 15:55 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: We want to minimize the diff with Debian on this, so what we want is to maintain the package order they have. It is kdeaccessibility, kde-icons-mono, kmag, kmouth, kttsd, kmousetool, and kdeaccessibility-dbg. | 15:58 |
| ScottK | I'd add jovie just above kttsd. | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ok ill change that.. or will you do it in bzr? | 15:58 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Please do it. Also mention your kdeaccessibilty depends change in debian/changelog | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well, I do not get this | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | next snapshot shall be with tracker | 16:01 |
| JontheEchidna | ^.^ | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ok | 16:02 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1137074 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Forgot this bit... | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | omg | 16:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK, shadeslayer: indi updated and kdeedu updated for various things, waiting on avogato MIR to upload | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | do not go into the module config of new ktorrent | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | it will run away | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | like amarok's script manager does | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: :) | 16:04 |
| * apachelogger builds new fluffy image | 16:04 | |
| * apachelogger also lies down for a bit because this heat is making him super tired | 16:05 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: Would you please fish kdeedu out of binary New for the mean time? | 16:05 |
| Riddell | fooey, got half way through doing that then forgot | 16:06 |
| Riddell | done | 16:06 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Release team meeting. Are you going to speak for Kubuntu or do you want me to cover it. | 16:06 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i did add a line about the depends : - Modify depends of kdeaccessibility to include jovie | 16:07 |
| ScottK | Great. | 16:07 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I can do it | 16:07 |
| ScottK | OK | 16:08 |
| * Riddell puts kdevelop into main and back on the DVD | 16:08 | |
| * ScottK grumbles about missinng the publisher by 3 minutes. | 16:10 | |
| khindenburg_ | Anyone running KDE SC 4.5 beta2 on lucid comment on kde bug 241435 (ie can't run konsole from command-line)? | 16:11 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 241435 in general "QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Konsole::Application::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance()" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241435 | 16:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I've seen that with other apps. It's not a konsole-specific bug. | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | plus it doesn't prevent the loading of anything | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method DolphinApplication::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | probably a kcmdlines bug or somesuch | 16:14 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/+merge/27372 | 16:14 |
| khindenburg_ | JontheEchidna: ok, txs...so the app still starts | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | brb after reboot | 16:16 |
| JontheEchidna | khindenburg_: yeah. No loss of functionality either, just an annoying message. | 16:16 |
| === khindenburg_ is now known as khindenburg | ||
| Riddell | ScottK: got to run out for 10 mins, if we get called at the meeting I put notes at the end of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus | 16:21 |
| ScottK | Will do | 16:22 |
| * JontheEchidna notes that rekonq is also blocked on its own MIR | 16:23 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Please add it to the wiki. | 16:25 |
| lex79 | ScottK: btw about qtwebkit on armel, if you don't want ftbs on armel, just add -V -u-c0 in dh_makelibs in rules, like we do for the other KDE packages | 16:31 |
| lex79 | that means don't fail in case of missing symbols | 16:31 |
| ScottK | lex79: Thanks. | 16:31 |
| * ScottK looks at Riddell for that one. | 16:32 | |
| lex79 | no problem | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: i read your statement as " if you want ftbfs on armel.... " and i went \o/ | 16:33 |
| lex79 | :) | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what happens if i do : sudo killall fluffiness on fluffy? :)( | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: oh btw remember that strigi indexing bug? on lucid.. the one for which there is a new kubuntu-default-settings in lucid? | 16:36 |
| JontheEchidna | yes | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | you might want to port it to maverick as well | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | strigi is enabled by default on login | 16:36 |
| JontheEchidna | I think we should take a "wait and see" approach with maverick, since it's still in the alphas | 16:36 |
| JontheEchidna | if there's no improvement by beta2 or so it should be disabled for final release | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ok.. just thought you might want to know | 16:37 |
| JontheEchidna | thanks | 16:37 |
| ghostcube | hmmm 4.5 is buggy but looks nice :) | 16:46 |
| apparle | guys whoever has done firefox integration, I would suggest, it is better to notify when "download is over" rather than "Downloading" | 16:55 |
| JontheEchidna | !find /usr/lib/kde4/kcal_akonadi.so | 17:00 |
| ubottu | File /usr/lib/kde4/kcal_akonadi.so found in kdepim-runtime, kdepim-runtime-dbg | 17:00 |
| ScottK | Looks like ia64 is back in business. | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: http://pastebin.com/XCv102jv | 17:29 |
| lex79 | kdelibs4-dev ? | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 17:30 |
| lex79 | I don't know if we still support issues with kdelibs 3 | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. | 17:32 |
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| ScottK | lex79: It's in Universe, so it's community supported. | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: btw any idea where the show desktop plasmoid has vanished ? | 17:33 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: What's the pastebin from? | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev | 17:33 |
| ScottK | So kdelibs5-plugins needs to replace kdelibs4-dev. | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | seems so... | 17:34 |
| ScottK | We should also probably remove that file from kdelibs4-dev. I don't think we support KDE3 kateparts anymore. | 17:36 |
| * ScottK hopes Riddell remembers. | 17:36 | |
| * shadeslayer goes and reads more Qt | 17:40 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: mind trying http://aplg.kollide.net/tracker/torrents/fluffy-alternate-alpha1.iso.torrent | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | that beasty should have 2 peers right now | 18:10 |
| JontheEchidna | k | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hey :) | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | oh | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: now I seem connected to you and kollide | 18:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I see two other leechers, but I'm not connected to them | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you o/ | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yo o/ | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw im starting to learn Qt with Qt creator... any thoughts? | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you tick the allow-not-encrypted-connections box? | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | since we too are using encrypted and you did not successfully establish with anyone but me | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: yes | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do you know cpp? | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes | 18:21 |
| JontheEchidna | aha! a peer! | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: then I recommend you just dive into a projcet ;) | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | Qt is very intuitive | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hehe i would like to learn the functions and clases first | 18:21 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm connected to www.kollide.net as a leecher | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | perfect | 18:22 |
| JontheEchidna | just took it a bit to find me I guess | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | well, kollide is using bittorando, which happens to be written in python, do I do not trust python anymore :/ | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | I am also using 512kb chunks now, that should make sharing easier | 18:23 |
| * shadeslayer started with http://doc.trolltech.com/4.7-snapshot/widgets-tutorial.html | 18:24 | |
| apachelogger | oh ok | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | not bad to read that I suppose | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also if it is not covered, you should read on a bit about signals&slots | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah theyre covered too :) | 18:25 |
| * JontheEchidna is seeding at half a megabyte a second :D | 18:25 | |
| shadeslayer | will move to that when i get the hang of widgets :) | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | well, then I think you know the most important bits already | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, if there are questions ask here or in #kde-devel or #qt | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the C++ part? | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: already in all 3 channels :P | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | signals&slots and layouts are IMHO the most important topics | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | then comes parenthood I suppose, since it makes heap usage so much easier :) | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: \o/ thanks | 18:27 |
| * apachelogger hopes that things should be a bit faster now that kollide can take part in the swarm | 18:28 | |
| JontheEchidna | I can only get the speeds approaching 1 MB/s at the office though. | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | so I can seed at these speeds for another 2.5 hrs or so | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you might want to finish what you started with bug 509772 | 18:29 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter | ||
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 509772 in kdenetwork (Ubuntu) "Build Kopete with Google Talk voice call support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/509772 | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | will not get to that before summer I am afraid | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | might as well leave a comment then :) | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | also to make aseigo a bit happier ggadgets for plasma are top prio for me ;) | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, you could get started on the MIRs if you want to | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: which MIR ? | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | packages mediastreamer (2.3.0) and libortp are not set in build depend | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | possibly more (dependein on what those 2 thingies need) | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer_ | bah... stupid power surge | 18:33 |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: didnt get any messages after packages mediastreamer (2.3.0) and libortp are not set in build depend | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: well.. i can work on the kopete package... if its only a matter of build deps | 18:34 |
| * shadeslayer assigns bug to self | 18:34 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so kopete _does_ have gtalk call support? \o/ | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: see my comment | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I am not sure of what quality it is though | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | which probably should be looked into first | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | since upstream was not terribly promotive of this feature I am thinking it is more of a walking proof of concept *shrug* | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: any info on that ^ | 18:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: gah... | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: will have a look... | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I think the linuxtag people are out drinking already, so no worries there :) | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: how I miss being @ LT :/ | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you are awesome | 18:38 |
| * apachelogger hugs shadeslayer | 18:38 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: werent you supposed to be there? | 18:38 |
| * shadeslayer hugs back | 18:39 | |
| apachelogger | nope | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... | 18:39 |
| * apachelogger is all tied up in work unfortunately | 18:39 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: s/work/gsoc | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | studies work, gsoc work, other work work | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | that reminds me that I still need to fix a bug in my tcp implementation ^^ | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. rekonq might be getting a URL like rekonq.kde.org.... maybe even a new site :) | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | they really ought to upload a new kopete image on http://kopete.kde.org/ | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | so that name is gonna stick? | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: they need to get rid of that site | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: probably... there hasnt been much discussion about the name | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | merge it in the kde userbase | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | probably... | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | hah.. latest news dates back to 2008 :P | 18:41 |
| apachelogger | yay my gsoc package is in paris \o/ | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that is why, konqueror website has same problem | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | indeed most of the *.kde.org websites do (those that are still around that is) | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i shot off a mail to the Kopete ML,lets see what they say :) | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: did you get my last message? | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | yes | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: perfect | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | awesome :) | 18:50 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you might consider getting a quassel account on a server btw :) | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: hmm.. where do i get one of those? | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: actually the modem cable got disconnected.. its a bit loose... | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer_ | >< | 18:52 |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Probably talk nice to jussi. | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | <3 jussi | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you probably need to bribe him with cookies | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: um... https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/+merge/27365 is still not merged,can you take a look? | 18:54 |
| jussi | nah, Im full with quassel accounts - Ive 6 on my server and 50GB of db... | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you happen to know whether there is progress on the soundmenu thingy? | 18:54 |
| * shadeslayer bakes some choco chip cookies with fluffiness | 18:54 | |
| shadeslayer | jussi: \o/ | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | jussi: that is one big database right there | 18:55 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I marked a comment on it: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/+merge/27372 | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | Sput: do you happen to know someone with a core and space for shadeslayer? | 18:55 |
| Sput | jussi :) | 18:55 |
| Sput | hm, who is hosting the amarok devs? | 18:56 |
| Sput | our core is quite crowded already too, we have 8 people on there | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: hmm... can you clarify whats the difference between arch any and arch all? | 18:56 |
| apachelogger | Sput: jefferai probably | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: pingy, do you have space on your core and want to take up famous kubuntu dev shadeslayer? ^^ | 18:57 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: arch: all is that the package can be built once and used on all architectures. arch: any, is a package that can be built for every architecture, but needs per-arch builds. | 18:57 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: hm, how is he famous? | 18:57 |
| jefferai | I dunno him | 18:57 |
| jefferai | :-) | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: \o/ | 18:57 |
| Sput | we're moving to a bigger server probably on monday (the long-announced move), but our core also is highly experimental :) | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | jefferai: hey im shadeslayer now you know me :P | 18:58 |
| jefferai | do I? | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :D | 18:58 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: So C++ codes is going to be arch: any. Stuff like data or pure Python would be arch: all. | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: he is working on bringing google talk support to kopete in kubuntu ;) | 18:58 |
| jefferai | oh | 18:58 |
| * jefferai uses psi | 18:58 | |
| jefferai | :-) | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ah ok :) | 18:58 |
| jefferai | anyways | 18:58 |
| apachelogger | jefferai, shadeslayer: well you too try working this out | 18:58 |
| jefferai | I could theoretically host another | 18:58 |
| jefferai | my core is super big though | 18:58 |
| jefferai | db size right now is like 9 GB :-| | 18:58 |
| jefferai | brb | 18:59 |
| ScottK | Sounds like time for cookies/alchohol | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: <jussi> nah, Im full with quassel accounts - Ive 6 on my server and 50GB of db... | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | 9 GiB | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | that is like...lol :P | 18:59 |
| shadeslayer | well... i can provide 20 GB of offline storage for data if you guys want | 18:59 |
| shadeslayer | just got rid of windows :P | 18:59 |
| Sput | wow, I could backup half of my mobile phone's storage on that... | 18:59 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: Ive stackloads of storage... | 19:00 |
| apachelogger | lol | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: :) | 19:00 |
| * shadeslayer even has a 1TB portable .... | 19:00 | |
| * apachelogger wishes he could get 2 laptops ^^ | 19:00 | |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ill fix that and and ask for a merge :) | 19:01 |
| ScottK | OK | 19:01 |
| ScottK | Riddell: 4.4.85 is finally fully built on i386 in maverick. | 19:02 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: transitional can be arch all right> | 19:02 |
| ScottK | yes. | 19:02 |
| ScottK | It's got no arch specific content. | 19:02 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: it's only a problem when it starts taking forever to log in | 19:04 |
| jefferai | anyways | 19:04 |
| jefferai | shadeslayer -- sure | 19:04 |
| jefferai | although I do make a request | 19:04 |
| jefferai | which is | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | jefferai: awesome :D | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | sure :) | 19:04 |
| jefferai | once in a while, take the buffers you're in that you don't really care about | 19:04 |
| jefferai | and part/delete/rejoin | 19:04 |
| jefferai | to wip the backlog | 19:04 |
| jefferai | just to help keep things tidy | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | jefferai: sure sure.. irclogs.ubuntu.com ftw :) | 19:05 |
| jefferai | right | 19:05 |
| jefferai | no sense in storing backlog for 50 channels you will never, ever, ever care about | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | Sput: IMHO quassel should have a feature for that ^ | 19:05 |
| jefferai | etc. | 19:05 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: I've asked him | 19:05 |
| Sput | yes, we all think that :) | 19:05 |
| jussi | yeah, and dont leave #ubuntu or #kubuntu too long or youll kill the core | 19:05 |
| jefferai | part/delete/rejoin sucks | 19:05 |
| jefferai | also | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | okies | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | jefferai: im never in 50 channels :P | 19:05 |
| jefferai | when I delete a buffer | 19:05 |
| jefferai | sometimes it makes the server disconnect | 19:05 |
| jefferai | because it locks it up too long | 19:05 |
| * jussi is normally in > 100 | 19:05 | |
| apachelogger | jussi is irc overlord though :P | 19:06 |
| jefferai | I am happy to say though that I recently did some postgres tuning and things have been much better since | 19:06 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: btw, this has a price | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: isnt there a limit to it? | 19:06 |
| jefferai | which is the following | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | oh dear! | 19:06 |
| jefferai | if you want shadeslayer's continued existence on my core | 19:06 |
| jefferai | you have to <strikeout>blow me</strikeout> help me understand snippets of Ruby code | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | oh noes! | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | sure cando :) | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whee :D | 19:07 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: your first task: | 19:07 |
| * apachelogger was afraid he was gonna force him to join the e.v. :P | 19:07 | |
| jefferai | http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Data+Bags#DataBags-UsingDataBagsinRecipes | 19:07 |
| jefferai | under "A more complete example" | 19:07 |
| jefferai | there is the user(login) do part | 19:07 |
| jefferai | and it seems to map attributes to variables, or some such thing | 19:07 |
| lex79 | ScottK: renaming library, doesn't need a transitional package right? make no sense. | 19:07 |
| jefferai | but with no equals, , etc | 19:08 |
| jefferai | I also don't really understand :manage_home | 19:08 |
| * jefferai should really read a Ruby book, but has no time | 19:08 | |
| apachelogger | jefferai: well, the :foo is a symbol | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | sec | 19:09 |
| apachelogger | http://www.troubleshooters.com/codecorn/ruby/symbols.htm#_What_do_symbols_look_like | 19:09 |
| jefferai | yeah, I read that | 19:10 |
| jefferai | so they're just consts? | 19:10 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: simply put, yes | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure about that assignmentless part though | 19:12 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: right, so if they're constants, then I don't get this: | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | did you ask nhn about that one? he is doing fancy ruby stuff too nowadays | 19:12 |
| jefferai | supports :manage_home => true | 19:12 |
| jefferai | hm, I didn't, no | 19:12 |
| piquadrat | Hi! I installed the beta packages of KDE SC 4.5, and since yesterday, plasma-desktop crashes on startup. Is this a known bug or should I bother to install the debug packages for a bug report? | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: well, see, they are not just const | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | symbols are a bit of magic | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | essentially they are a combination of an integer an object and a string | 19:14 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: yeah, saw that | 19:15 |
| jefferai | but, dont' get how that relates to that line above | 19:15 |
| jussi | jefferai: stop giving me bad ideas... I just crapped out the connection deleting #ubuntu-uk | 19:17 |
| jussi | :D | 19:17 |
| piquadrat | I'm on 10.04, btw, using the kubuntu beta ppa | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: well, I can only guess because it I do not quite grasp what that thingy is doing anyway | 19:17 |
| jefferai | jussi: hah, see? | 19:17 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: ok | 19:17 |
| jefferai | this is making Chef hard to learn :-( | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | but to me the looks like it is used as a flag | 19:17 |
| jefferai | not knowing Ruby + stuff like that | 19:17 |
| jussi | jefferai: Id hate to see how long it would take for #ubuntu... | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | supports would be the flags and it is setting manage_home to true | 19:18 |
| jussi | btw, Im still looking for perl coders with an interest in irc if anyone is up for it... | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | ohhh | 19:18 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: a) what are flags; and b) but symbols are immutable, right? | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | well, they are not really flags, I just compared it to QFlags ;) | 19:19 |
| jefferai | oh | 19:19 |
| jefferai | heh | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | imagine you set the window props of your app, you would pass it the flags you want to have, which is essentially what happens here | 19:20 |
| jefferai | ok | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | also I just had an inspiration | 19:20 |
| jefferai | so -- it's constructing an obejct and setting the value of the symbol | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | it is entirely possible that uid, gid, shell etc. are setter functions | 19:21 |
| jefferai | which it can do, at this time, because it's at construction | 19:21 |
| jefferai | ? | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | in ruby foo(bar) is equal to foo bar | 19:21 |
| jefferai | oh really? | 19:21 |
| jefferai | yeah, I'm sure they're setters | 19:21 |
| jefferai | I didn't know you could set like that though | 19:21 |
| jussi | right, Im off. laters | 19:21 |
| jefferai | man, ok | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | o/ | 19:21 |
| jefferai | time to find where I stashed that Ruby book | 19:21 |
| jefferai | which is out of date :-| | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | jefferai: thank you :D | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | you can do puts("hello") and puts "hello" it is all the same to ruby ;) | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: the fundamentals do not really change | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: so now i never disconnect> | 19:22 |
| jefferai | shadeslayer_: sure | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | and everytime i start the client it will syncd to core? | 19:22 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: I didn't know you could do puts("hello") :-) | 19:22 |
| jefferai | shadeslayer_: yeah | 19:23 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: ah, the book is free online now... | 19:23 |
| jefferai | http://ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | jefferai: thank you so much :) | 19:23 |
| jefferai | shadeslayer_: sure | 19:23 |
| jefferai | I try to give warning before any core downtime | 19:23 |
| jefferai | doesn't always happen | 19:23 |
| jefferai | but I try | 19:23 |
| * shadeslayer_ will probably run one of these when he sets up his own server | 19:23 | |
| apachelogger | jefferai: you cannot imagine the feeling I had when I discovered that ;) | 19:23 |
| * apachelogger is more of a c-like-style-coder and likes them brackets a lot | 19:24 | |
| apachelogger | oh I just found a nice site that outlines ruby symbols very well, unfortunately in german :( | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | jefferai: ill keep clearing the logs.. dont you worry ;) | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | ahhh | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: http://www.randomhacks.net/articles/2007/01/20/13-ways-of-looking-at-a-ruby-symbol | 19:27 |
| apachelogger | jefferai: 8. might be what the supports line does | 19:27 |
| * apachelogger did not know one could do that ^^ | 19:28 | |
| shadeslayer | qtcreator borked in maverick :P | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: use the static linked version | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: new and final merge ( hopefully ;) ) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/+merge/27389 | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | or make a PPA | 19:29 |
| * apachelogger thinks a PPA of qt creator would be very nice | 19:29 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: seemed to be a ibus problem.. im installing ibus to check what happens | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | danimo sure would giv eus cookies for that :) | 19:30 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: do you know if removal of public qt signals is BIC ? | 19:30 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: haven't tested gtalk feature lately, but when I did (years ago) it was ok | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: could I see the symbols? | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: gtalk works fine... the voice calling part doesnt :P | 19:31 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: #MISSING: 4:4.4.85# _ZN5Solid7Control6Ifaces12PowerManager13schemeChangedE7QString@Base 4:4.3.4 | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: which is the static linked version of qtcreator? | 19:31 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: it's in powermanager.h in 4.4.3 | 19:31 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: yeah, but kdebase-workspace libraries aren't garuanteed binary compatible | 19:32 |
| lex79 | under Q_SIGNALS: void schemeChanged(QString newScheme); | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | so it's a bit stinky, but not unexpected | 19:32 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: "yeah" is for ? :) is it BIC for you? | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | for BIC | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | but its somewhat OK | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | as there's a given expectation that -workspace libs can break BC, which is why they're not in kde4libs in the first place | 19:33 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: ok, I chat with modax if he wants change the name of the library | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: thanks :) | 19:34 |
| sheytan | Hi guys | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: hey :D | 19:36 |
| sheytan | i was already speaking with the kpackagekit dude | 19:36 |
| sheytan | and he said that kpgk is pached to use an additional dialog window with settings. I'm asking what for? :D | 19:37 |
| sheytan | it would be more cooler to have it without that dialog. Just as a normal window | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: the edit settings thingy? | 19:37 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer yes. when y ou click on 'edit repositories list' | 19:39 |
| sheytan | this dialog sucks, really :D | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: hmm.. thats probably for authentication purposes | 19:39 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: I meant voice call | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: oh :) | 19:39 |
| Tm_T | the chat is normal xmpp | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | yep.. | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | same as fb :) | 19:40 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer maybe yes, couse it uses kdesudo instead of policykit (or how it's called) | 19:40 |
| sheytan | but i think it's not much work with that :P | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: hmm... | 19:41 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: no, fb is totally different story | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | maybe we can get it to ask passwords when applying the changes? | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: i thought fb used xmpp too | 19:41 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer why not ;) | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | they opened their protocol lately ... | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw bug 592786 | 19:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 592786 in qtcreator (Ubuntu) "qtcreator crashes on start in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592786 | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | what kopete needs to do is get jabber mapped to all the different providers and defaulting to their specific requirements | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I suppose you should backtrace | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | it might be a BIC issue though | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: with gdb? | 19:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: BIC? | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | aye | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: binary incompatible (ABI changed) | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: maybe run with unset KDE_FULL_SESSION or what it is called before gdbuggin it | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ah ABI changes :P | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | if it does not crash then it prolly is that | 19:45 |
| shadeslayer | still crashes :P | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | i ran qtcreator KDE_FULL_SESSION | 19:46 |
| * apachelogger goes crying about amarok crashing so much | 19:46 | |
| apachelogger | this takes away all the fun I once had listening to music | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the otherway around if at all | 19:47 |
| apachelogger | but I would really go to the length of unset KDE_FULL_SESSION | 19:47 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: me too :( (re linuxtag) | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: unset KDE_FULL_SESSION;qtcreatort still fails :P | 19:47 |
| * apachelogger needs to hand in his tcp by midnight and there is a bug somewhere | 19:48 | |
| apachelogger | OMG! | 19:48 |
| * shadeslayer will compile qtcreator | 19:48 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: then gdb | 19:48 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: was there any further talk on the soundmenu stuff from the canonical people you know about? | 19:48 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: not that i know nopw | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | cause I found aseigo's suggestion very very very sane and good and pretty much perfect | 19:49 |
| Nightrose | *nope | 19:49 |
| jefferai | apachelogger: thanks for that link, it's good | 19:49 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: yeah! debconf-kde support progressbars now :D and I'm finishing to get rid of that useless std code :P | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | \o/ | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: might as well file a wishlist bug :) | 19:55 |
| dantti | even split was reinvented there again :P | 19:55 |
| JontheEchidna | QString is the best string api ever | 19:55 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer will do :) | 19:55 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: ever | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: qtcreator has a RC release roo | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | *too | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | im downloading that | 20:03 |
| * apachelogger is already using it :P | 20:03 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: gotta poke people tomorrow | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: repo has beta :P | 20:04 |
| * apachelogger is not using the repo for qtcreator :P | 20:04 | |
| apachelogger | development is much too fast for that | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hehe :) | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i was advised to use git.... :P | 20:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: does the binary come with docs and stuff too? | 20:05 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: need hug and cookie :/ | 20:07 |
| Nightrose | before poking anyone | 20:07 |
| * shadeslayer starts watching daybreakers at 1 am .... | 20:10 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: not sure, I am using loads of addtional stuff anyway ;) | 20:17 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order cookies for Nightrose | 20:17 |
| * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to Nightrose. | 20:17 | |
| JontheEchidna | So | 20:17 |
| * apachelogger super huggles Nightrose | 20:17 | |
| JontheEchidna | I fixed the QuickAccess crash | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | but | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopek1531-jpg.jpg | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | :( | 20:17 |
| apachelogger | my flippin TCP is bugged | 20:17 |
| apachelogger | a! | 20:18 |
| * Nightrose huggles apachelogger | 20:18 | |
| apachelogger | and I do not care | 20:18 |
| JontheEchidna | the model's handing me invalid indexes :( | 20:18 |
| JontheEchidna | so I get nothing painted :( | 20:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i ran the installer,how do i make it pick up the examples from the packages? | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the code examples? | 20:19 |
| * apachelogger never used the code examples :/ | 20:19 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the tutorials and stuff | 20:19 |
| apachelogger | no clue really | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | back to qt-creator i gues s :P | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | you probably can set a path somewhere *shrug* | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: is quickaccess booted from the default install yet? | 20:20 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: nein | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | omg! | 20:21 |
| JontheEchidna | it should be, if this bug can't be fixed | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | poor panel is all filled up ^^ | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: also, does our default plasma setup shiz conflict with upstream's? | 20:21 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: yes, both .js files are loaded on clean config | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | sweet | 20:21 |
| JontheEchidna | we get two activities and two panels | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | supposedly we could just rename ours to override the upstream one | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | probably gets cascaded anyway | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | also the upstream one is bugged | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | it assumes that main screen is screen 0, while this is not necessarily the case and if you do not have access to screen 0 then you are panelless | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | and activityless for that matter | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | or actually you have a panel I think ^^ | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | well you get the idea ;) | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: your desktop needs fluffying up! | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: where is our script located? | 20:24 |
| ScottK | Also the -workspace currently in the archive is missing some files for the js config stuff. | 20:24 |
| ScottK | Once lex79 gets the symbol files done we'll upload | 20:25 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/01-kubuntu-default-setup.js | 20:25 |
| * shadeslayer renames that script once and for all | 20:25 | |
| lex79 | almost finished | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | now it wont add more activities | 20:26 |
| android | O/ | 20:32 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: kdeaccessibility uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 20:32 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: no problem at all :D | 20:32 |
| ScottK | The init scripts should only run once anyway | 20:32 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: anything else to do? | 20:32 |
| android | shadeslayer: is rocking today | 20:32 |
| ScottK | Probably. | 20:32 |
| shadeslayer | android: im simply free :) | 20:33 |
| * ScottK needs to run out for a while. | 20:33 | |
| shadeslayer | will probably rock for the next 3-4 months :P | 20:33 |
| shadeslayer | at least :D | 20:33 |
| android | shadeslayer: btw, the rebuild of quick access today didnt help :( | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... we probably need a newer qtcreator package in the maverick repos | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^^ | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | android: yes JontheEchidna is working on that | 20:34 |
| shadeslayer | android: idk if thats on lucid or maverick,but work is going on | 20:35 |
| android | shadeslayer: excellent | 20:35 |
| * shadeslayer heads over to answers.launchpad for a quick look and then off to sleep | 20:35 | |
| android | shadeslayer: I take it you figured out who i am... | 20:36 |
| * android points to cloak | 20:36 | |
| shadeslayer | android: jussi on your android :P | 20:36 |
| android | :) | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | i know,didnt need the cloak :P | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | android: rofl : https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+question/114290 | 20:36 |
| android | Heh | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | dont even feel like adding a comment there :P | 20:37 |
| android | Thats useful... | 20:37 |
| android | Sounds a candidate for: | 20:38 |
| android | !doesntwork | 20:38 |
| ubottu | Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. | 20:38 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 20:39 |
| android | Yeah, my audio just sits on the couch and does nothing.... | 20:39 |
| android | :P | 20:39 |
| shadeslayer | android: it probably watches the video playing on the screen :P | 20:39 |
| android | Lol | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | !ebooks | 20:42 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ebooks | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | !ebook | 20:42 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ebook | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | bye all ,will be back tomorrow :) | 20:50 |
| _Sime | Riddell: KDE 4.5 marble bindings have been updated and should work. The API may or may not be BC in the future. | 21:08 |
| _Sime | Riddell: BTW, what is the status of Python3 support for the PyQt and PyKDE packages? | 21:11 |
| ScottK | Isn't it the other way around? What's the status of support for Python 3 in PyQt and PyKDE? | 21:12 |
| ScottK | We're very close to having the infrastructure done to package Python 3 stuff the way we want it done (trying to lose some of the cruft in the Python packaging) | 21:13 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: yes fb uses xmpp but their implementation is really really bad (from my point of view anyway) | 21:14 |
| _Sime | ScottK: has been ready for quite some time now. | 21:15 |
| ScottK | _Sime: Good to know. | 21:16 |
| ScottK | _Sime: It's a goal to have the default python be python3 before 12.04. | 21:17 |
| apachelogger | Departed FedEx location | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | PARIS FR | 21:24 |
| * apachelogger is wondering where his gsoc package is going now ^^ | 21:25 | |
| apachelogger | this is all sorts of fun I must say | 21:25 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Found something. We need kdepim 4.4.4 packaged for Maverick. | 21:29 |
| apachelogger | any thoughts on adding the fluffy blog to planet ubuntu? | 21:40 |
| ScottK | fluffy isn't an Ubuntu member | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | bug a flavor | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | s/bug/but | 21:44 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Is fluffy stuff all in the official archive? | 21:45 |
| apachelogger | nope | 21:48 |
| asac | ho | 22:02 |
| asac | kde-pim ... is there a plan to add that to the archive this cycle? | 22:03 |
| apachelogger | asac: the new stuff with mobile magic and all? | 22:04 |
| * apachelogger notes that this mostly depends on whether kdepim upstream manages to get to a stable stage in time | 22:05 | |
| asac | yeah ... one sec | 22:05 |
| asac | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-liquid | 22:05 |
| asac | looking for someone who could take the pim module packaging off rbelem's shoulders maybe ;) | 22:05 |
| asac | not sure if its an easy package that would be suitable for a mentoree ... would definitly have time until alpha-3 | 22:06 |
| asac | apachelogger: so you say its not packagable? | 22:06 |
| asac | i could also live with a package in a ppa ;) ... if the stability does not meet the quality requirements of the kubuntu team ;) | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | I say that currently kdepim 4.5 is not scheduled for release with KDE SC 4.5 | 22:07 |
| asac | i am not really familiar with the kde/kubuntu release way | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | whether it will be released in time to even make 10.10 is another question :/ | 22:07 |
| asac | and kdepim 4.4 doesnt exist? | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | it does and is packaged | 22:08 |
| asac | kk | 22:08 |
| apachelogger | and actually will be what we ship in maverick in case 4.5 does not reach a stable release in time :) | 22:08 |
| asac | i assume the package update would be easy? | 22:09 |
| asac | e.g. would it be straight forward to push some svn snapshot to ppa based on current packaging? | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | I am not familiar with current SVN's structures, but most of the breaking changes are switching to akonadi and removing loads and loads of old clutter, so I suppose it is not that different | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: pingy ^ | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | anything about this discussed @ UDS? | 22:10 |
| ScottK | asac: First we need to get plasma-mobile in. | 22:11 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: In general. | 22:11 |
| asac | ScottK: right, thats part of the spec too :) | 22:11 |
| asac | just trying to find someone who would be willing to take the kdepim items ;) | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: do our kolab contacts want snapshots of 4.5 maybe? seeing as the akonadi based kontact will be next reference client for kolab... | 22:13 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I think they will be interested in a dedicated KDE3 kontact package specifically for a kolab client first. | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | why are they not lurking in here anyway :P | 22:15 |
| ScottK | asac: I think it's way to early to tell if the pim mobile stuff will be doable this cycle or not. | 22:15 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It was discussed that they'd do that. Busy I guess. | 22:15 |
| asac | ScottK: you say there is risk that it might not work at all? | 22:15 |
| ScottK | asac: I don't know the upstream development schedule. | 22:16 |
| asac | or is it mostly regression potential for none mobile images? | 22:16 |
| * asac is ignorant what part pim plays in normal kubuntu images | 22:16 | |
| ScottK | First we need plasma-mobile (which last I checked didn't build). | 22:16 |
| ScottK | It's a leaf package for us. | 22:16 |
| asac | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-liquid | 22:16 |
| rbelem | ScottK, i will get it ready in this weekend | 22:16 |
| rbelem | :-) | 22:17 |
| asac | \o/ | 22:17 |
| ScottK | asac: So we walk before we run and see how far we get. | 22:17 |
| ScottK | asac: We do have #kubuntu-mobile for dedicated conversation on this topic. You might want to hang out there. | 22:17 |
| asac | ScottK: well, i will keep a work item then and make it dependent on whether its ok for archive; otherwise we put it in a ppa as it seems to be essential for any kind of mobile experience i was told | 22:17 |
| asac | so stay tuned ;) | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | asac: for kdepim they are exchanging almost all internals, so there is a lot of regression potential, which is also why they are not releasing along with KDE SC (which is what usually happens) | 22:18 |
| rbelem | ScottK, it is building fine now | 22:18 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Great. | 22:18 |
| asac | apachelogger: right. i didnt check if its used in any other kubuntu images. if thats the case its clear that it cant be replaced in archive with svn snapshots etc | 22:18 |
| rbelem | ScottK, just need to finish the debian/copyright | 22:18 |
| ScottK | asac: So this is a really weird cycle for kdepim. | 22:18 |
| rbelem | ScottK, that's painful | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | asac: it is what we are using for pim activities in Kubuntu :) | 22:18 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Yeah, it's in many ways the trickiests part of packaging. | 22:19 |
| asac | we could put it in a ppa ... or in the archive using a special package name so mobile profiles can benefit from it (in case it works) | 22:19 |
| asac | but as ScottK said. lets see ;) | 22:19 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Is pim-mobile a patch to the regular pim package or a seperate tree? | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | shouldnt be | 22:19 |
| ScottK | We'll see. | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | kdepim is seperated into UI and libs, so I suppose pim-mobile would just be using the libs and stack another UI ontop of it | 22:19 |
| ScottK | Reminds me I need to work on seed setup. | 22:19 |
| * apachelogger looks | 22:20 | |
| rbelem | http://dot.kde.org/2010/06/10/kde-pim-goes-mobile | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | http://files.kolab.org/local/maemo/README.html | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | steveire: pingy | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: if that helps http://steveire.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/akonadiplatform2.png :) | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdepim/mobile/ | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | looks like it is part of kdepim to begin with | 22:27 |
| * apachelogger checks out | 22:28 | |
| ScottK | Interesting | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | now I could use a faster machine now :/ | 22:38 |
| bulldog98 | what to install to have kdevelop in maverick? | 23:26 |
| DarthFrog | Hmm, clicking on the Quick Access icon kills plasma. | 23:47 |
| apachelogger | it must have been ages since I did package a non-native package | 23:57 |
| * apachelogger feels a bit rusty :/ | 23:57 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, ScottK: pingy, got time to revu grantlee? | 23:58 |
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