[00:00] <Apollonovich> fair enough
[00:01] <amichair> there are neverending growing pains, but things do improve with time on most fronts
[00:01] <coreberserker> Hello Everyone I can't seem to get Enna to run on Kubuntu 10.04 Lucid 64bit. Is anyone else having this problem?
[00:04] <coreberserker> Anyone?
[00:21] <jorge> how can i up audio
[00:21] <jorge> is 100 % and continuo slow
[00:27] <adam__> Whoa am I a fresh newborn Linux user?!
[00:28] <amichair> adam__: welcome :-)
[00:28] <adam__> I'll tell you how much of a noob I am with linux!  I just closed off all my windows and I'm amazed i made it into here!
[00:28] <adam__> i have no task bar
[00:28] <adam__> start button
[00:28] <adam__> nothing!
[00:28] <adam__> lol!
[00:28] <FloodBotK3> adam__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <adam__> Whoa sorry
[00:29] <adam__> forgot about that
[00:29] <adam__> IRC HAS RULES you know
[00:29] <adam__> i just installed what i think is drivers for my nvidia and now i lost my dual display!
[00:30] <amichair> adam__: you can use the nvidia settings applet to configure TwinView (or whatever means of dual display you use)
[00:31] <adam__> lol where do i find that now that i have removed everything but this window hahahaha! im such a funny noob
[00:31] <adam__> this really is funny
[00:31] <amichair> you can run nvidia-settings
[00:31] <adam__> ok
[00:31] <adam__> ill try that out
[00:32] <amichair> adam__: you mean you mistakenly removed your panel and desktop?
[00:32] <adam__> yeah hahahahaha!
[00:32] <adam__> not really mistakenly
[00:32] <jcgs> does anyone know what to do if i think i've found that one of the packages in the repositories is fubar?
[00:32] <adam__> i normally learn things by just going apeshit
[00:33] <adam__> i have backups of everything so who cares right?
[00:33] <adam__> but yeah im having to look accross to my laptop screen when i usually look at my cintiq 21"
[00:33] <adam__> so ill sort out this display prob
[00:34] <amichair> adam__: you can use alt-f2 to run arbitrary commands, or open a konsole from there
[00:35] <jcgs> who do i tell?
[00:35] <adam__> ok got my nvidia settings back to normal thanks very much
[00:35] <adam__> phew im getting the hang of this LOL!
[00:35] <jcgs> i've reported it as a bug, but all of the bugs against that package seem to be being ignored
[00:37] <amichair> adam__: to get your desktop back, you can erase the ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc config file and then logout and back in (a new default config file should be created)
[00:38] <amichair> jcgs: maybe you can try asking in #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel
[00:38] <adam__> how do i locate that file
[00:38] <jcgs> amichair: thanks a lot, i'll give it a go
[00:39] <amichair> adam__: you can run 'rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc' to delete the file
[00:40] <amichair> adam__: if you mess around too much and you have nothing important on this system, you can erase the entire ~/.kde folder, and it will be recreated when you restart
[00:40] <adam__> yeah i think i might do that perhaps
[00:40] <adam__> i just ran that command
[00:40] <amichair> adam__: (hopefully with working defaults :-) )
[00:41] <adam__> it game me no confirmation that it did it. But i think it has
[00:41] <adam__> IM SUCH A MESS HAHAHAHA!
[00:41] <adam__> hopefully i can work my way back in here and say thank you
[00:42] <adam__> but if i dont thanks for your help
[00:42] <amichair> adam__: good luck :-)
[00:42] <adam__> hahaha thanks
[00:50] <jorge> hello
[00:51] <adam__> is there like a find file app in here so i can delete plasma-appletsrc
[00:51] <adam__> ??
[00:51] <amichair> adam__: in a console, you can use 'locate plasma-appletsrc'
[00:53] <adam__> Maybe I might just keep it like this LOL!
[00:53] <adam__> its kinda nice not to have to have a task bar and what not
[00:53] <adam__> and that is all windows like features
[00:56] <amichair> adam__: is just the panel missing, or is the screen entirely black?
[00:57] <ybit> how do you group the kopete tabs to the left or right?
[00:57] <ybit> on top of the window causes me to scrool in order to see all my im tabs
[01:04] <ybit> also kubuntu-restricted-extras doesn't do the trick for listening to mp3s in amarok...
[01:04] <adam__> oh sorry no its not black its just got its default background image with widgets at the top left and this other thing at the top right
[01:05] <adam__> i have just draged a "K" logo widget onto the screen and I'm just using that to open up a browser and this chat program
[01:05] <adam__> lol
[01:05] <adam__> Linux is kinda nice
[01:05] <amichair> adam__: ok then, never mind. I thought maybe your entire plasma-desktop died, but that's not the case.
[01:05] <adam__> ok sorry about that
[01:05] <adam__> i should have clarified
[01:06] <adam__> i shouldnt have gone trigger happy closing off things and pushing and pulling things apart LOL!
[01:07] <adam__> but its fun, its a new OS i have never got my hands on and given it a go
[01:07] <adam__> giving*
[01:10] <oxymoron> Is it possible to have multiple owners of files and directories? :P
[01:11] <amichair> oxymoron: only via groups, as far as I know
[01:11] <oxymoron> like "chown -hR root,user:user /u  "
[01:11] <oxymoron> amichair: yeah but then you need 0775 permissions and not 0755
[01:12] <oxymoron> I would like www-data and oxymoron both being owners of my apache document directory.
[01:13] <amichair> oxymoron: oh, yes, that can be annoying. I get used to sudo -u www-data when working on websites...
[01:14] <oxymoron> amichair: I now have 0775 and make myself owner and www-data co-owner in group for oxymoron ... but everytime I add a new file I need to chown again and do chmod 0775 ....
[01:15] <amichair> oxymoron: I had the same annoyance, and started using sudo -u, which is a bit more convenient (no need to chown all the time)
[01:15] <oxymoron> amichair: Whats sudo -u ?
[01:15] <amichair> 'sudo -u www-data' is like using sudo but running as user www-data (not root)
[01:15] <amichair> so files are created with that user, etc.
[01:16] <oxymoron> Dont understand, youre using sudo -u everytime you create new files or what?
[01:17] <amichair> if it's just copying/creating new files there, then yep
[01:18] <oxymoron> amichair: Mostly I dont create files in terminal, I do it in the IDE I am working with, which mean Kdevelop
[01:18] <amichair> i.e. I can copy a whole directory that way and it'll all be with the right user/group, instead of copying, then chowning, etc. not a huge difference, but I find it more convenient and less error prone
[01:18] <amichair> so u can probably run kdevelop as www-data, and not have to worry about it
[01:19] <amichair> (I do it with kate sometimes)
[01:19] <oxymoron> amichair: Like sudo -u www-data kdevelop ?
[01:19] <amichair> well in that case it'll be kdesudo, need to make sure it has the same -u argument
[01:20] <amichair> I think so
[01:20] <oxymoron> amichair: Epic fail on kdesudo -u www-data kdevelop
[01:21] <amichair> bummer. what happens?
[01:21] <oxymoron> "trying to create local folder /var/www/.kde: Access denied"
[01:22] <amichair> hrm... probably trying to create it's own config files and stuff :-(
[01:22] <oxymoron> amichair: its never good trying to make a hack solving the actual problem :/
[01:22] <amichair> well the actual problem is already solved - security
[01:23] <amichair> but convenience is the price :-)
[01:23] <oxymoron> amichair: Not really, I want 0755 and not 0775
[01:29] <amichair> oxymoron: I'd be happy to hear if you find a convenient solution
[01:32] <oxymoron> amichair: I cannot find anyone at the moment, programmers have to fix new permission protocol then.
[01:33] <oxymoron> amichair: Its all this details that annoys me in Linux that just doesnt work, but mostly in Windows.
[01:34] <oxymoron> Or wehn getting Iso-8859-1 encoded files from Kopete/MSN with åäö chracters in filename, then you cannot do anything with the file ... not even delete or renmae it. Only wayt to delete it, is todo sudo rm *.extension
[01:35] <oxymoron> Or nVidia Proprietary cannot show high resolution plymoth by default, but Nouveau can. But Nouveau havent nay OpenGL support ...
[01:35] <oxymoron> And you cant use Cairo Dock, then video player doesnt work with ARGB because of QT and OpenGL xD
[01:36] <oxymoron> There is a lot of bug reports for this but nobody cares it seems.
[01:36] <amichair> yes, there are lots of little issues... I'm currently trying to figure out why bluetooth isn't working. but still, I switched from windows xp, and never looked back. There are many advantages here.
[01:36] <oxymoron> Or just a tiny little thing changing icons in systray plasmoid isnt possible in an easy way, and WIne icons you cant change at all.
[01:37] <oxymoron> amichair: Yes of course, most things work REALLY GOOD on Linux. More advantages on Kubuntu 10.04 then on WIndows 7
[01:37] <oxymoron> But then I just want that freaking flawless or somehwta flawless OS one day, that just works 24/7
[01:38] <oxymoron> When my system does I shall turn of all upgrades and updates.
[01:38] <amichair> I wish ubuntu/kubuntu/kde would take a couple releases to just fix things and stop trying to innovate (while breaking more things)
[01:39] <amichair> focus more on QA and user experience
[01:39] <oxymoron> Then I got disappointed on the "new" notification system in KDE 4.5 ... no news at all. I thought they implemented the awesome idea from kde-look on brainstrom :(
[01:39] <oxymoron> amichair: Yes, TOTALLY agree
[01:40] <oxymoron> amichair: Most times they doesnt innovate anything at all and just destroy the things people really like. Most people used to like Amarok 1.4 and Konqueror for instance.
[01:40] <oxymoron> Not that I dont like Amarok 2.1 and Dolphin but still.
[01:40] <oxymoron> KickOff or ALL application launchers looks like hell, noone give it love with awesome design interface.
[01:41] <oxymoron> We need better icon path sorting/stroing/collections.
[01:41] <amichair> yep. I guess it's hard for developers to leave their software in a near-perfect state. when all is well, they take the opportunity to do a full rewrite, or switch to a totally different frontend/backend/alternative...
[01:41] <oxymoron> The ultimate video/audio player, no VLC doesnt work completly.
[01:42] <oxymoron> amichair: Or when making Quassel default over Konversation, what da heck was that about? :O
[01:42] <amichair> exactly
[01:42] <lucitu> oxymoron: how hard is it to replace it?  a few keystrokes
[01:42] <oxymoron> amichair: Of course, I dont expect all software to be PERFECT mint condition all the time, but at least not breaking or remove anything that works GOOD already.
[01:42] <amichair> and now maybe rekonq instead of konqueror (when firefox should be default), and many other examples...
[01:43] <oxymoron> lucitu: Its not about that, its the principle.
[01:43] <oxymoron> amichair: But I tried out Rekonq, I would say its better then Firefox, Chromium, Konqueror and all ones. But its maybe just me.
[01:43] <oxymoron> lucitu: I always replace it.
[01:44] <oxymoron> The default system should attract users. First time you boot into Kubuntu on LiveCD or desktop you think, what have I got into it looks ugly as i dont know. You change every single setting.
[01:44] <amichair> oxymoron: maybe, but still the same point. I wish the focus would be on stability and quality, rather than jumping around to the latest shiny rewritten things
[01:45] <lucitu> oxymoron: amichair: there's debian etch for you..:)
[01:45] <amichair> it's ok to move forward, but only if you at the very least don't lose any functionality and don't introduce new annoyances
[01:45] <oxymoron> amichair: Yes, I agree ;) AND if they should switch to latest things, it sure WOULD work almost perfect and better than the previous alternative.
[01:45] <oxymoron> lucitu: Whats debian etch?
[01:46] <lucitu> oxymoron: debian etch if you want stability and it works
[01:46] <oxymoron> amichair: One thing I hate, is to upgrade from one stable to another "stable" release, which always end up with a clean install of the new one xD
[01:46] <lucitu> close to perfect
[01:47] <amichair> lucitu: so without kde? :-P
[01:47] <lucitu> kde 3.5 if that's what you want
[01:47] <oxymoron> lucitu: KDE 4.5?
[01:48] <oxymoron> lucitu: To old packages/software for me.
[01:48] <lucitu> oxymoron: IIRC that's what you want..stable..no new things..?
[01:49] <oxymoron> lucitu: New things, as long they are better than previous ones ... and WORK. Old and unupdated stuff isnt working well with new devices and other things using the latest stuff :P
[01:50] <oxymoron> lucitu: I am not that conservative
[01:50] <amichair> lucitu: it's not new things we dislike... it's broken, buggy, or bad UX things...
[01:50] <oxymoron> Actually I prefer new things, but as said they should WORK out of box and look nice with default settings without have todo anything.
[01:50] <amichair> I'm all for new, better, working and usable things...
[01:52] <oxymoron> Amarok 2.1 was a good step for instance.
[01:52] <oxymoron> Kdevelop4
[01:52] <amichair> oh well, it's 4am, I give up. No bluetooth for me in 2010.
[01:52] <amichair> maybe in 2011...
[01:53] <oxymoron> amichair: Almost it doesnt even work with Bluetooth on my Android.
[01:53] <oxymoron> amichair: I can see a connection with Linux and Android, and that Bluetooth problem becasue Android is based on Linux :D
[01:53] <amichair> hehe
[01:54] <amichair> good night fellas :-)
[01:54] <oxymoron> its a real shame you cannot transfer files between two droid devices with Bluetooth.
[01:54] <oxymoron> amichair: Good night :)
[01:54] <oxymoron> amichair: Oh damn, bed time for me as well.
[02:26] <m_tadeu> hi...I installed kubuntu-netbook package...now how do I change to have the netbook desktop?
[02:55] <[Relic]> Anyone  got a text version of how to install flash 10.1 into kubuntu 64bit?
[02:56] <[Relic]> the video becomes quite useless once you get to the part of removing the flash player and therefore disabling the video
[02:56] <ablyss> [Relic]: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:56] <[Relic]> that will get 10.1 32bit onto a 64bit install?
[02:57] <ablyss> 10.1 ? not sure. I'm still on 9.10
[02:57] <[Relic]> flash 10.1, not the flash 10.0.45.2
[02:58] <ablyss> my bad. didn't read your question too good
[02:59] <ablyss> in the past i've been able to just drop the plugins directly into the plugin folders.
[02:59] <[Relic]> don't work 32bit vs 64bit
[03:02] <ablyss> i really hate upgrades just for little headaches like that
[03:02] <[Relic]> guess I need to find someone to watch the video and tell me the nsplugin parts :(
[03:02] <[Relic]> cause guess what the youtube video is flash
[03:02] <ablyss> could you do vmplayer w/ a very tiny linux w/ your flash
[03:03] <ablyss> sooner or later it will be available
[03:04] <[Relic]> adobe isn't making a 64bit version again by the looks of it
[03:05] <ablyss> i'm slowly trying to get adjusted to the kde desktop.. i love how elegant it feels.  Though i'm not like kwrite and kate too much... still a much devout fan of gedit
[03:07] <ablyss> [Relic]: what about klash or gnash
[03:08] <ablyss> doesn't vlc have a firefox plugin?  just thinking out load
[03:09] <ablyss> load/loud
[03:09] <ablyss> brb, wifey says dinner is ready
[03:09] <[Relic]> klash and gnash are in alpha according to docs
[03:53] <zcf115> Hello everyone.
[03:53] <workspace> hi zcf115
[03:54] <zcf115> where are you from?
[03:54] <zcf115> i an chinese.
[03:54] <zcf115> i come from china.
[03:54] <workspace> the usa.
[03:55] <zcf115> o!are you a boy?
[04:12] <robs529> hello
[04:44] <jorge_> hello
[04:44] <jorge_> who can help me
[04:44] <zizi> hello jorge
[04:45] <jorge_> hi zizi
[04:46] <jorge_> i have problem with the sound and wine
[04:46] <jorge_> you know about that
[04:46] <jorge_> zizi
[04:47] <zizi> that problem, maby you not set soud up
[04:48] <jorge_> is 100% the soud
[04:48] <jorge_> but i listing slowly
[04:48] <zizi> are chek speaker, mamby broken
[04:49] <jorge_> i was cheking is not
[04:50] <zizi> okey, tray open seting soud on internal driver
[04:51] <jorge_> where
[04:52] <zizi> tray, start - sytem seting , multimedia
[04:53] <jorge_> i think is the driver of the soud
[04:53] <jorge_> how can ii install again the driver sound
[04:53] <zizi> jorge can you give your email, mamby i foud solution i send masege.
[04:54] <jorge_> but tell me for tha way
[04:55] <zizi> you tray reinstal again and dowload your driver
[04:55] <jorge_> how
[04:56] <jorge_> i am no expert
[04:56] <jorge_> you know
[04:56] <jorge_> i have maybe 8 day with kubuntu
[04:57] <zizi> run cd instalation and instal after that you find driver you have by on line ,find driver and insta
[04:58] <zizi> im 2 day with kubuntu before i with ubuntu
[04:59] <jorge_> which is better
[05:01] <zizi> all better jus diferent dekstop. ubuntu with gnome , kubuntu with KDE but ubuntu more faster
[05:03] <zizi> jorge where you live? im from solo indonesia
[05:04] <jorge_> i will go to chang
[05:04] <zizi> where chang, i mine coutry?
[05:05] <jorge_> the sistem
[05:05] <jorge_> i have kubuntu i going to chang for ubuntu ssitem
[05:07] <zizi> you can request free cd ubuntu, in www.ubuntu.
[05:09] <zizi> jorge if you have troubel agan send me masage on Petrukman@gmail.com
[05:30] <SirTravers> hello from New MExico USA
[05:34] <SirTravers> anyone available to help with a small konversation issue?
[05:35] <Rorschachdigital> can anyone point me toward another music player for kde 4 amarok and i arent getting along much these days
[05:37] <SirTravers> lemme think what it was i was using
[05:37] <SirTravers> I know it's mainly a vid player but I like VLC media player
[05:38] <SirTravers> it does regular audio too
[05:38] <SirTravers> it also lets you use streaming stations
[05:38] <Rorschachdigital> ooh you know i completely forgot about vlc
[05:38] <Rorschachdigital> thank you
[05:38] <SirTravers> its in the videolan repository
[05:38] <SirTravers> no problem
[05:38] <SirTravers> heck it even works on...shudder....windows
[05:39] <Rorschachdigital> lol
[05:40] <SirTravers> I'm slowly migrating over to linux and trying out diff distros right now.
[05:40] <SirTravers> running ubuntu but like some of the kde apps
[05:40] <SirTravers> just haven't tried kubuntu out yet
[05:41] <Rorschachdigital> where are you migrating from?
[05:42] <SirTravers> started out on WinXP running rocketdock and custom desktop
[05:42] <SirTravers> got tired of having to pay for all the extra protection and office stuff so I started looking at options an found my way to linux
[05:43] <SirTravers> I started on OpenSUSE and found ubuntu after getting frustrated with hunting up dependancies all the time
[05:43] <Rorschachdigital> lol yeah well ubuntu would be the best for a newcomer
[05:44] <SirTravers> i got hooked on the KDE apps and didn't realize kubuntu was available until after I had already started runnin the gnome version
[05:44] <SirTravers> luckily the apps port across pretty well
[05:44] <Rorschachdigital> ah yeah the widgets are nice in kde
[05:45] <Rorschachdigital> yeah you will find most programs can easily be run on gnome and kde
[05:45] <Rorschachdigital> as long as they arent gnome 2 base
[05:45] <SirTravers> I'm tryin to learn how to setup a qban alias for konversation now. It's not the same as Icechat and it's driving me nuts
[05:45] <Rorschachdigital> :-/ i dont use konversationn
[05:46] <SirTravers> it's pretty nice for irc. just hunting up a good help page has been hard
[05:47] <Rorschachdigital> ive been using quassel its pretty solid
[05:48] <SirTravers> checking
[05:51] <SirTravers> does it allow mirc scripting?
[05:53] <Rorschachdigital> SirTravers:sec im looking into it
[05:55] <Rorschachdigital> doesnt look like it
[06:16] <naftilos76> hi, can i somehome adjust the number of simultaneous connection that ftp client in Kubuntu establishes to a ftp server? if it is more than onei want to lower that number because i get an error message saying "too many users connected" even if i am connected with one client only!
[06:20] <naftilos76> anyone
[06:20] <naftilos76> ?
[06:24] <thebloos> Is there a way to enable SLI for multiple NVidia cards in Kubuntu
[06:40] <Renovatio> hi there, a deb package is reqiring "sun-java6-jre" but i cannot find it on kpackagektit, there's something missing in my sources.list or this package is really unaviable?
[06:41] <bazhang> check in partner repo
[06:41] <bazhang> !partner
[06:47] <thebloos> Is anyone here familiar with Kubuntu and DB2 express edition?
[06:48] <Renovatio> bazhang ok it worked, thank you :-)
[08:23] <TheAncientGoat> Does anyone know the package name of openGL's development files?
[08:33] <loxs> I added the beta overlay in order to try kde 4.5 beta. Now I want to downgrade back to "stable" kubuntu. But if I only remove the overlay, apt-get upgrade doesn't revert. What is the right way to do it?
[08:43] <kurt__> hi. since one of the latest updates, LAN is not detected on several of our machines any more. knetworkmanager says "network management disabled". I have to do a "sudo dhclient eth0" to get it working again. any hints what causes this? It happens on 4 different machines.
[10:56] <terran4000> Hey, does anyone know of a good graph/plot program that can take a multi-column csv file and work with it?
[11:00] <Bucky> hi, where i can find some kate/kdevelop color schema? in kde-look there are just a few.
[11:00] <Bucky> looking for something dark with high contrast, as http://code.google.com/p/geany-vibrant-ink-theme/
[11:15] <evilsherpa> hey all, i am unable to remove my ipod, as it says that a partitian is still active, but i cant find out whats using it or how to just safely remove
[12:33] <amichair> how does one install additional codecs for ffmpeg?
[12:40] <apparle> hi guys
[12:52] <amichair> hey apparle
[12:52] <apparle> amichair: hi wassup
[12:53] <amichair> the usual... trying to get flaky things to work :-)
[12:54] <apparle> amichair: flaky?
[12:54] <apparle> amichair: which one right now
[12:55] <amichair> bluetooth dongle and some ffmpeg codecs
[12:56] <amichair> apparle: the bluetooth dongle works ok (well, flakily) on netbook, and isn't recognized on desktop
[12:56] <apparle> amichair: you mean it works on one system and not on there, with same OS
[12:57] <amichair> oh and an X memory leak, but there's nothing much I can do about that at the moment
[12:57] <amichair> apparle: yes, both running lucid
[12:57] <apparle> amichair: try exiting the kbluetooth,
[12:57] <apparle> amichair: in mycase I always exit it
[12:57] <apparle> amichair: and then connect,
[12:58] <rethus> my gimp is english, need it german... how can i change the langguage? 10.04
[12:58] <amichair> apparle: kbluetooth doesn't work well anywhere. I installed blueman, which works ok on the netbook. on the desktop, I think the usb dongle is never recognized at all, so lower level problem than the tray icon GUI, I think
[12:59] <apparle> amichair: I don't know about blueman, but I also used to exit blueplgd and rerun it
[12:59] <amichair> apparle: oh, and wireless on netbook disconnects after a few minutes of copying files over ssh, and reuires powerdown to work again :-(
[13:00] <apparle> amichair: no idea, never had wireless myself
[13:00] <amichair> apparle: I don't see a blueplgd running, how does it show up in ps?
[13:00] <amichair> 'ps -ef | grep blue' shows only a '[bluetooth]' entry
[13:00] <apparle> amichair: I don't remember, but I think it doesn't show in lucid, it used to in karmik
[13:01] <apparle> amichair: check ksystemlog for any USB dongle related errors
[13:02] <amichair> apparle: so anyway, currently the flakiness is nonfuncional bluetooth, crashing wireless, unsupported webcam (low priority), a memory leak.... and trying to get some work done in between :-)
[13:03] <amichair> (which, unfortunately, requires wireless and BT)
[13:03] <apparle> amichair: check if memory leak is related to neopmunk
[13:03] <apparle> amichair:  do one thing
[13:03] <apparle> amichair: disconnect the dongle
[13:03] <amichair> apparle: oh, I shut that down long ago, to cross off a couple more problems from the list
[13:03] <apparle> amichair: start ksystemlog and then connect ti
[13:04] <amichair> apparle: ksystemlog == dmesg?
[13:04] <apparle> amichair: ya
[13:04] <apparle> amichair: nothing there?
[13:04] <amichair> "usb 3-6: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 12"
[13:05] <amichair> "usb 3-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"
[13:05] <amichair> and that's it
[13:07] <apparle> amichair: have you selected your backing in systemsettings>advanced>hardware
[13:07] <apparle> amichair: what happens in case of BlueZ backend
[13:07] <amichair> apparle: I only see BlueZ there
[13:08] <apparle> amichair: ohh
[13:08] <amichair> apparle: also, lsusb does show the device, but hcitool finds nothings
[13:09] <apparle> amichair: what is hcitool, and ok blueman also works on BlueZ so thats fine
[13:09] <amichair> apparle: hcitool is what I found when googling - a cli lower level interface to BT devices, or something like that
[13:10] <amichair> it shows the problem is not with any particular frontend, but with the backend, I guess
[13:12] <apparle> amichair: check if you are using hcitool right, also in lsusb, does it say what module or driver it is using.. maybe try lsusb -v
[13:12] <apparle> a little offtopic guys, but is the football worldcup song, officially free? how to get it?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> apparle, the "like a waving flag" ?
[13:16] <apparle> BluesKaj: no the "This time for Africa (waka waka)" by shakira
[13:16] <amichair> apparle: here's the lsusb -v output, what do you make of it? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/448229/
[13:16] <BluesKaj> oh that one ...doubt if it's free
[13:17] <apparle> BluesKaj: so can I buy it online/CD etc
[13:17] <tdnicho> good morning
[13:17] <tdnicho> looking for some assistance with kubuntu and multiple monitors
[13:18] <apparle> amichair: seems ok to me
[13:18] <tdnicho> running kubuntu 10.04 on a pc with geforce 9600
[13:18] <apparle> shadeslayer: you there?
[13:18] <tdnicho> twinlook seems to work once i install the restricted nvidia driver
[13:18] <shadeslayer> apparle: yes :)
[13:18] <amichair> apparle: where does it say what module is loaded for it?
[13:18] <tdnicho> but if I reboot, the setting isn't remembered and I lose the second display
[13:18] <apparle> shadeslayer: what's the name of package of the nvidia dual monitor package for tdnicho
[13:19] <shadeslayer> !twinview | tdnicho
[13:19] <shadeslayer> its not a package :)
[13:19] <amichair> tdnicho: I use TwinView (configured from nvidia-settings), it remembers it after reboots - but the second monitor (TV in my case) must be on at time of login for it to be recognized
[13:19] <apparle> shadeslayer: I don't know and care until I get a nvidia
[13:19] <apparle> :D
[13:20] <tdnicho> sorry, i said twinlook, meant twinview
[13:20] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:20] <mfraz74> what is the difference between flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer and why does konqueror keep asking for installer if nonfree is installed?
[13:20] <tdnicho> i can configure twinview with no problem and get both monitors workikng
[13:20] <tdnicho> working
[13:20] <amichair> mfraz74: I think -nonfree was renamed to -installer, so no difference
[13:20] <tdnicho> problem is on reboot, i always lose the second monitor and have to revisit the nvidia hardware manager
[13:21] <tdnicho> got it amichair...i'll try that....
[13:21] <mfraz74> amichair: if I install -nonfree and then load konqueror it wants to load -installer
[13:22] <amichair> mfraz74: it's pointing at the new name, while the older transitional name is installed, but it doesn't recognize it... you can just install the -installer one
[13:25] <amichair> apparle: any other ideas regarding bluetooth?
[13:26] <apparle> amichair: try other tools package in bluez package, try seeing there man pages to find the errors
[13:30] <amichair> apparle: ok, I'll keep playing around with it... thanks :-)
[13:30] <apparle> amichair: ya best luck
[13:30] <apparle> amichair: as for wireless have you tried wicd
[13:32] <amichair> apparle: no, but here too, I have a feeling the problem is with the driver or something lower level, not the frontend
[13:32] <apparle> amichair: wicd is a backend :)
[13:32] <amichair> apparle: oh :-)
[13:33] <apparle> amichair: so maybe it could help,
[13:33] <amichair> apparle: what's the other default backend? networkmanager?
[13:33] <apparle> amichair: ya networkmanager is the default
[13:34] <amichair> apparle: how does it work - are they different drivers? or different mechanisms to load the same sets of drivers?
[13:34] <apparle> amichair: no idea, as I told you, I never had wireless
[13:34] <amichair> apparle: ah ok. Well thanks, I'll look into it :-)
[13:41] <cch> hello
[13:42] <cch> I'm using kub 10.10
[13:42] <cch> not bad~
[14:37] <odhinn> can anyone help me with an Akonadi issue?
[14:40] <steso> hi
[14:48] <humildi> Bom dia a todos!
[14:48] <humildi> é minha primeira vez aqui...
[14:48] <Pici> !br | humildi
[14:49] <humildi> qual o canal do kubuntu em portugues?!
[14:49] <humildi> tem!?
[14:49] <humildi> ?
[14:49] <Pici> !br
[14:50] <humildi> Pici, com o canal kubuntu em portugues...?!
[14:50] <humildi> sabe me dizer...?!
[14:50] <Pici> humildi: #ubuntu-br
[14:50] <humildi> ?
[14:51] <Pici> humildi: #ubuntu-br por ubuntu y kubuntu
[14:52] <humildi> ubuntu br não fala de kubuntu não...
[14:52] <humildi> é só ubuntu que eles falam lá...
[14:54] <bazhang> humildi, /join #ubuntu-br
[14:54] <Pici> bazhang: He said that the ubuntu-br people told him they don't support kubuntu.
[14:54] <Pici> humildi: Não há nenhum outro canal kubuntu Português específicos. Me desculpe, eu não sei mais o que sugerir. Além disso, desculpe-me pela tradução ruim, eu estou usando o Google.
[14:54] <bazhang> Pici, that is odd
[14:59] <humildi> Pici, muito obrigado pelo seu esforço, muito gentil de sua parte! :D
[14:59] <humildi> Pici, valeu de coração!
[15:01] <vi390> hi,  I am looking for the setting option for "expanding window when click in the head of window" - where Will I find that option?
[15:51] <B1> haha
[15:56] <recurso> hey there
[15:57] <recurso> I've just fresh installed kubuntu 10.04 and I'm trying to create a new user account, however can't find the right tool to do that. What package should I install to be able to do it in graphical mode?
[16:08] <alleehol> recurso: start system settings -> advanced tab.  Lower 'system part'  there is user management
[16:11] <recurso> thanks alleehol I missed that one
[16:43] <Scunizi> what's the kde version of gparted?
[16:47] <Pici> Scunizi: qtparted?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Scunizi, there isn't one if you're talking about the livecd
[16:47] <Scunizi> Pici: BluesKaj did an apt-cache search for parted and packagemanager search for qtparted with no results
[16:47] <BluesKaj> gparted works great as a live cd , just because it's gtk doesn't mean it won't work
[16:48] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: yea.. I know.. but I knew there was a kde version and was looking for that.. I had it in 9.10 but after reinstalling 10.04 it doesn't seem to be there.
[16:49] <BluesKaj> kparted?
[16:50] <Scunizi> BluesKaj: looked for that too
[16:52] <BluesKaj> yeah, i don't see it either Scunizi
[16:52] <Scunizi> weird
[16:54] <BluesKaj> maybe Pici's suggestion ..qtparted
[16:54] <Scunizi> nope.. not in the repos or in packages.ubuntu.com
[16:55] <BluesKaj> strange
[16:55] <Pici> erm. rmadison suggestions it was last shipped in hardy.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:55] <Scunizi> so on kde we're suppose to use gparted?
[16:55] <Scunizi> doesn't make sense
[16:57] <BluesKaj> yeah, well I've always prefer synaptic to adept, dunno if adept even exists anymore...the latest version was very clunky
[16:57] <BluesKaj> I just ignore kpackagemanager
[16:57] <Scunizi> adept is available but needs to be installed.. synaptic is good.. kde default is kpackagekit and .. well.. it's "ok"..
[16:57] <BluesKaj> err kit
[17:02] <BluesKaj> well, got stuff to do for a bit ..bbl
[17:03] <Scunizi> Pici: partitionmanager is the kde version.... go figure .. it doesn't have a "K" in it .. :/
[17:04] <Pici> Scunizi: krazy
[17:04] <Scunizi> lol
[17:04] <Machtin> uhm.. anyone here with problems launching KDE?
[17:05] <Machtin> i can't install/update kde-workspace-data. :/
[17:09] <Machtin> hm.. never mind, i removed freespacenotifier.. works now.
[17:09] <Machtin> however, i only get a black screen when starting KDE. i can move the mouse and so on.. but no desktop and nothing
[17:16] <Machtin> solved! :)
[17:39] <genous> KDEInit could not launch 'gksudo'.:
[17:39] <genous> Could not find 'gksudo' executable.
[17:42] <jmichaelx> genous: you may just need to install gksudo
[17:43] <jmichaelx> man, is this channel dead these days
[17:43] <genous> how to?
[17:43] <goodtime> apt-get install gksudo
[17:44] <jmichaelx> genous: you could just try 'sudo apt-get install gksudo'. what are you needing to use it for?
[17:44] <goodtime> or that
[17:45] <genous> i can not install gksudo      tip:error
[17:45] <genous> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:47] <jmichaelx> genous: did that fix your apt-get problem?
[17:47] <genous> jmichaelx:thx
[17:48] <alesan> hi! how can I configure the windows button on the keyboard to do what it is meant for, that is to open the K menu'?
[17:48] <genous> i success       :sudo apt-get install gksu
[17:48] <alesan> Mandrake worked, but since I switched to kubuntu it does not work anymore
[17:49] <alesan> also, how can I configure the alt+tab switch to be like on windows?
[17:49] <jmichaelx> genous: gksudo is for running gtk apps as superuser from the command line. if you are trying to do the same with qt apps, you should use 'kdesudo'
[17:50] <Serraphyn> Hi, I just installed 10.04(via upgrade from 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04) I normally use ubuntu but like KDE more so I thought I'd switch.  ONly problem I'm having is I can't find how to install the nvidia driver
[17:50] <Serraphyn> In standard Ubuntu, there was a little card that showed up on the status bar
[17:51] <jmichaelx> alesan: i am not sure what it looks like on windows, but the settings for alt+tab switching are in System Settings>Desktop under 'Effect for window switching'. just experiment until you find what you want.
[17:52] <alesan> jmichaelx, well it is not really an "effect"
[17:52] <wedo> hello
[17:52] <alesan> but the behaviour
[17:53] <wedo> how can access the odbc configuration gui plz
[17:53] <alesan> when you press alt+tab a small window appears with the icon of the window you can switch to
[17:53] <alesan> and only when you release tab, it switches
[17:53] <jmichaelx> Serraphyn: there should be something in your menu that mentions hardware drivers. if not, then run 'sudo apt-get install jockey-kde', and run that
[17:57] <jmichaelx> alesan: not being too familiar with how it is done in windows, i'm not sure what you're looking for. when i switch windows with alt+tab, it does not switch until i release alt
[18:00] <alesan> jmichaelx, in my case it switches immediately!!!
[18:01] <alesan> it brings up the "next" window when I *press* TAB
[18:01] <alesan> and ALT is obviously still pressed
[18:03] <jmichaelx> alesan: all i can tell you is that KDE is not windows.
[18:04] <alesan> is that relevant?
[18:04] <alesan> you have described the behaviour I think I want
[18:04] <alesan> in my case it's different and we both use KDE
[18:04] <alesan> I wish I had your setting!
[18:06] <jmichaelx> alesan: it may or may not be relevant... i wish i knew so i could tell you
[18:07] <alesan> what about the K menu, maybe somebody knows how to enable it when the windows button is pressed
[18:07] <llutz> alesan: checked "systemsettings" Window-Behaviour?
[18:08] <alesan> let me see
[18:08] <alesan> oh I have a message there:
[18:08] <alesan> "Focus policy settings limit the functionality of navigating through windows."
[18:08] <alesan> what does it mean?
[18:12] <doztenus> Hello. First of all I have Kubuntu 10.4 i386 installed on my PC. And I have some trouble with playing *.flv files. "Dragon player" plays it but only video frames are normal. And sound...very loud noise and nothing else. Any idea how do i correct it? P.s. English isn't my native language :-[
[18:13] <wedo> how can access the odbc configuration gui plz
[18:21] <hyper_ch> where do I open a new bug on launchpad... I can't find it anymore
[18:30] <jmichaelx> doztenus: do you have all of your codecs installed?
[18:30] <doztenus> Yeah I think so
[18:31] <jmichaelx> doztenus: have you installed, for example 'kubuntu-restricted-extras'?
[18:32] <doztenus> How do I check it?
[18:33] <buckfast> Every time I install new updates kpackagekit tells me there is something wrong with ca-certificates-java
[18:33] <buckfast> it also happens with apt-get
[18:36] <doztenus> jmichaelx: Ok, clear. Terminal shows that I haven't got that 'kubuntu-restricted-extras'. I'm trying to install it now...
[18:37] <jmichaelx> doztenus: it is possible that will fix things for you.
[18:47] <doztenus> jmichaelx: Thanks. That codecs really helped me
[18:50] <jmichaelx> doztenus: you might also want to install some other video players. you might want to try running 'sudo apt-get install smplayer vlc'. smplayer is mplayer with a nice GUI, and vlc is an ols standby that can sometimes play what others players can't
[18:50] <jmichaelx> ols=old*
[18:50] <lontra> what is the best way to go about learning Qt?
[18:51] <alesan> lontra, join #qt :)
[18:52] <doztenus> jmichaelx: Thanks, but I wanna install Wine and then KMPlayer into it. KM is my favourite player.
[18:55] <jmichaelx> doztenus: i have never used that kmplayer (there is a player called 'kmplayer' in the repos... another qy frontend for mplayer, but is not the same thing), but i think you'd have much better luck using native linux video players
[18:55] <jmichaelx> s/qy/qt/
[19:03] <doztenus> jmichaelx: Hm...well I used vlc when I have ubuntu installed on my PC. First of all I'll try to install KM and if there'll any troubles I'll install vlc.
[19:23] <doztenus> I believe the most of people on this channel are from USA and UK, right?
[19:25] <doztenus> Well I have heard that in USA and UK almost nobody uses an ICQ
[19:25] <doztenus> Does it true? And what do you use, if so?
[19:28] <bendersteed> I am from Greece
[19:28] <bendersteed> and nobody uses ICQ either here
[19:30] <llutz> !ot | doztenus nobody who read icqs "privacy policy" would use icq, except he's braindead
[19:31] <clarnist> hello guys
[19:31] <avihay> well, maybe people figured that you can chat online, without a program that throws windows into a chaos and a resource drainage
[19:32] <clarnist> I have instal the kde 4.5 from backports and there's no libqt4-assistant package
[19:32] <clarnist> how can I install this?
[19:32] <doztenus> ubottu, llutz: Well, sorry.
[19:51] <buckfast> error processing ca-certificates-java
[19:51] <buckfast> why do I keep getting this
[19:55] <jhutchins_lt> ubottu: who owns you?
[19:56] <castarco> hello
[19:57] <castarco> i'm having problems with kexi , in the 10.4 version the package not exists.. and because that i downloaded the 2.2 version of koffice web (the totallity of koffice)
[19:57] <castarco> i've tried to compile it but..
[19:58] <castarco> the kexi package can be compiled because i can't resolve a sqlite dependency
[19:58] <castarco> i've installed almost the packages related to sqlite
[19:58] <castarco> but there are no results :(
[19:59] <gottto> !find kexi
[20:00] <uga> Anyone else here  tried upgrading to maverick, and found himself with an "improved" intel graphics support of <50fps in glxgears?
[20:00] <uga> I'm going mad searching for info, but I don't see any related issues
[20:00] <Pici> uga: Maverick support/discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[20:01] <uga> Pici: cheers, I was looking for that
[20:04] <castarco> anybody have experience with kexi here?
[20:05] <nodder> how do i install kde 4.5 ? i need repos for that?
[20:06] <n8w> hey
[20:06] <shadeslayer> n8w: yes
[20:06] <shadeslayer> um
[20:06] <shadeslayer> nodder: ^^
[20:06] <shadeslayer> nodder: you will need the kubuntu beta backports ppa
[20:06] <n8w> the enter keyboard doesnt work under wine...anyone experiencin the same?
[20:07] <shadeslayer> nodder: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5-beta-2
[20:07] <nodder> shadeslayer: ok how do i do that
[20:07] <shadeslayer> nodder: the link has all the info
[20:08] <nodder> shadeslayer: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta <- i put that in sources.list ?
[20:08] <shadeslayer> all the kinks should have been worked out,but if you find a bug in packaging please do report it :)
[20:08] <shadeslayer> nodder: open a terminal and : sudo add-apt-repository  ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[20:09] <nodder> shadeslayer: and then apt-get update - dist-upgrade
[20:09] <shadeslayer> nodder: yes
[20:09] <nodder> shadeslayer: nicenice, tnx
[20:09] <shadeslayer> np
[20:09] <nodder> shadeslayer: how stable is this?
[20:10] <shadeslayer> nodder: depends on your definition of stable
[20:10] <nodder> shadeslayer: well when opening window it freezes or something :D
[20:10] <shadeslayer> nodder: hehe.. its usable
[20:10] <nodder> shadeslayer: neatoooo tnx alot bro..
[20:10] <nodder> shadeslayer: and this has new effects i heard
[20:10] <nodder> shadeslayer: what else is new here? and fixed
[20:11] <shadeslayer> nodder: yes,the kwin tiling effects and blur effects
[20:11] <shadeslayer> nodder: might as well checkout the announcement on kde.org
[20:11] <nodder> shadeslayer: blur is like in compiz blur?
[20:11] <shadeslayer> nodder: like blur effect behind notifications and stuff
[20:11] <nodder> ok
[20:14] <castarco> U_U
[20:17] <nodder> shadeslayer: so this will make if faster too?
[20:18] <shadeslayer> nodder: eh?
[20:25] <buckfast> I'm trying to fix some subtitle timing with subtitle composer
[20:26] <buckfast> according to the internal player, the first spoken line of dialogue is at 2:24
[20:26] <buckfast> so I shift the subtitles accordingly
[20:27] <buckfast> however when I play the video in mplayer, the subtitle shows up at 2:19
[20:30] <aperson> my keyboard stopped working in kde!?
[20:30] <aperson> works everywhere else :S
[20:31] <aperson> on screen keyboard won't even input anything
[20:31] <aperson> the heck is going on here?
[20:31] <noddler> hmm, upgrade to kde4.5beta2 konsole coenst' let me change font size with ctrl-+ and -
[20:31] <buckfast> in fact, subtitle composer is showing completely different times than subtitle editor
[20:31] <buckfast> why is that
[20:32] <noddler> +ah it's ctrl-shift-+ -
[20:32] <noddler> ok
[20:32] <noddler> then another thingy i cant see Desktop directory in my Desktop
[20:34] <martin____> hallo!!
[20:35] <rork> hi
[20:35] <martin____> DE?
[20:36] <rork> !de | martin____
[21:29] <duryodhan> Hi for some reason my windows meta key is being mapped to ctrl+z - does anyone know what could be wrong or where I could fix this ?
[21:50] <gottto> you could use   xev   in terminal to find out what it is coded at - and the same for ctrl+z
[21:55] <stamp_> how to use kmail with Message Indicator?
[22:00] <whodat> I got a pair of usb to cat5 extenders, but my webcam isnt seen on them, do I need a module built or called?
[22:03] <gottto> do they show in   lsusb   or in   dmesg   after you plug them in whodat ?
[22:03] <whodat> nope
[22:03] <amichair> is there some way to reset the wifi system without rebooting?
[22:05] <gottto> whodat: if there's nothing in dmesg after you plug them in then the system doesn't see 'em ...
[22:05] <whodat> Im thinking kernel build
[22:05] <whodat> usb dongle support module build or something
[22:06] <whodat> I havnt done one since slack 11 though
[22:06] <whodat> will need help if we do
[22:07] <pat5star> amichair: what do you want to do?
[22:07] <whodat> custom kernel is likely
[22:07] <amichair> pat5star: wireless on my netbook works ok for a few minutes, then disappears. I can only get it to work again after a cold boot, and was wondering if there's a quicker way...
[22:07] <whodat> need support for usb rj45 extenders
[22:08] <pat5star> amichair: should figure out why it quits working really, but you can reset your connection without reboot, yes
[22:09] <pat5star> amichair: depending upon what's happening, you could try sudo dhclient3
[22:09] <amichair> pat5star: will be glad to figure it out, but don't know how. it just... dies.
[22:09] <pat5star> amichair: have you tried wicd?
[22:09] <pat5star> amichair: I find it works a lot better. sudo apt-get install wicd
[22:10] <amichair> pat5star: not yet, but that won't help figuring it out either, just running away from it :-)
[22:10] <pat5star> amichair: I agree, but networkmanager been pretty buggy with wifi, while in my experience wicd worked a charm
[22:10] <whodat> gotto is there some modprobe for dongles?
[22:11] <pat5star> amichair: are you using lucid?
[22:11] <amichair> pat5star: yes, this is a fresh lucid netbook install
[22:11] <amichair> pat5star: just installed wicd, rebooting
[22:12] <pat5star> amichair: also, while your connection is up, you should tail -f /var/log/syslog  to see if you can find a clue as to what's happening with your connection
[22:12] <amichair> pat5star: are nm and wicd different drivers, or different managers for the same drivers?
[22:13] <pat5star> amichair: ok, if on lucid, you'll have to manually remove knetworkmanager I think. With karma and before, installing one or the other would remove the other one, but I've found with lucid that's not the case anymore....
[22:13] <pat5star> amichair: different managers
[22:13] <pat5star> amichair: oops, meant karmic koala and before, not karma lol
[22:13] <amichair> pat5star: so I removed networkmanager? knetworkmanager? both? anything else?
[22:14] <pat5star> amichair: sudo apt-get remove knetworkmanager should do it
[22:14] <amichair> hmm seems its network-manager-kde now
[22:14] <gottto> whodat: you need to find out from dmesg how the system sees it first
[22:14] <whodat> ok how to send it
[22:15] <gottto> send what wher?
[22:15] <pat5star> amichair: the problem with lucid is that when you install wicd and it no longer removed knetworkmanager they actually fight with each other to control your network. it's not pretty ;)
[22:15] <whodat> gotto my dmesg dont you want to see it?
[22:16] <amichair> pat5star: ok, removed both, restarting again
[22:16] <gottto> whodat: nope - unplug the usb do   dmesg -tail -n 20    plug it back in and do the command again
[22:16] <gottto> whodat: nope - unplug the usb do   dmesg | tail -n 20    plug it back in and do the command again
[22:17] <pat5star> amichair: sorry, didn't remember they changed names....been awhile since I had to do this. I think you'll find that once you have wicd running things, all your problems will be gone ;)
[22:18] <pat5star> amichair: all the same, for the first bit, I'd: tail -f /var/log/syslog   just to see if you catch any weird stuff going on
[22:19] <amichair> pat5star: wicd isn't finding my network at all (it's hidden, but entering ssid doesn't find it)
[22:19] <whodat> gotto done
[22:20] <gottto> whodat: did the system give some extra output saying how it recognised it?
[22:20] <pat5star> amichair: can you unhide it for a min just to see if you can get a connection?
[22:20] <gottto> !tab | whodat
[22:20] <whodat> invalid option
[22:21] <whodat> on the tail cmd
[22:21] <whodat> dmesg: invalid option -- 't'
[22:22] <wedo> how to update the kick-off menu
[22:22] <gottto> whodat: see the second line about dmesg I posted -    dmesg | tail -n 20
[22:22] <pat5star> amichair: I'll be honest, I'm going to be a bit stumped if you can't get wicd working especially if knetworkmanager was working before. I've never seen it go that way, it's always the other way around!
[22:22] <whodat> plug it in first?
[22:23] <gottto> whodat: nope - unplug the usb do   dmesg | tail -n 20    plug it back in and do the command again
[22:23] <whodat> k
[22:24] <whodat> gotto done
[22:24] <gottto> whodat: did the system give some extra output saying how it recognised it?
[22:25] <gottto> use that info and google - I have to leave whodat
[22:25] <gottto> bye :]
[22:25] <whodat> cya
[22:27] <whodat> I got a pair of usb to cat5 extenders, but my webcam isnt seen on them, do I need a module built or called? not in lsusb or dmesg
[22:28] <amichair> pat5star: nope, doesn't recognize it. running 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan essid <hidden_ssid> does show it, so there's nothing wrong with the backend, I think
[22:29] <amichair> pat5star: not that knetworkmanager found it at first either (bug #422174)
[22:30] <solidturtle> hi I have several pdf files and I would like to know why there are not indexed with strigi? perhaps it is not possible?
[22:31] <pat5star> amichair: wow...first time I've seen that happen. usually just switching to wicd solves the problems. I don't know what to tell you unless you wanna go back and tail the syslog until your connection drops out and we can see if we can figure out what's going on
[22:31] <solidturtle> and I would like to know if it is possible to change the shortcut Alf+F2 for krunner?
[22:31] <amichair> pat5star: ok, I'll uninstall/reinstall and brb
[22:31] <pat5star> amichair: k
[22:33] <amichair> pat5star: oh darn, it can't reinstall knm because there's no netowrk connection :-P
[22:34] <pat5star> amichair: you don't have cable nearby?
[22:34] <amichair> pat5star: is there any chance it's still in the package cache or something? anyway to make apt-get not look online?
[22:34] <pat5star> amichair: oh you're on a netbook right, I've never used one...do they only work wirelessly or you can plug them in too?
[22:35] <pat5star> amichair: you can look in /var/cache/apt
[22:35] <pat5star> amichair: if you haven't done apt-get clean or autoclean it might still be there
[22:36] <amichair> pat5star: I think it isn't, coz it wasn't manually installed (but part of the original distro installation)
[22:36] <pat5star> amichair: oh darn, no it won't be there then.
[22:36] <pat5star> amichair: do you have the install disks still, you could pull it from that
[22:36] <amichair> the plot thickens... :-)
[22:37] <pat5star> amichair: I hate to say it, but I should have known better myself, I ran into a similar situation a while back...my bad :(
[22:37] <amichair> hmm... I have an iso of the livecd on a usb stick
[22:39] <amichair> now on the netbook
[22:39] <pat5star> amichair: I have to go out for 10 mins, then I'll be back. see if you can get that deb and reinstall it and then I'll see if I can help you afterwards
[22:39] <amichair> pat5star: I shall. Thanks!
[22:45] <whodat> I got a pair of usb to cat5 extenders, but my webcam isnt seen on them, do I need a module built or called? not in lsusb or dmesg
[22:53] <whodat> I got a pair of usb to cat5 extenders, but my webcam isnt seen on them, do I need a module built or called? not in lsusb or dmesg..
[22:55] <the_madman> Lo everyone.
[22:56] <the_madman> I'm something of the tech support guy for my family, and I've been happily using Ubuntu's default remote desktop tool to connect to other computers and help them out.
[22:56] <the_madman> But for some reason, KRDC on a default Kubuntu install finds the VNC server on those computers and allows me to connect by double-clicking, but then complains, "Server not found".
[22:57] <the_madman> Is there anything else I have to install to get it working?
[22:58] <whodat> ho do I reset my kb shortcuts back to defaults?
[23:01] <the_madman> whodat: System Settings --> Keyboard and Mouse --> [Standard keyboard shortcuts]/[Global keyboard shortcuts] --> Defaults --> Apply.
[23:02] <whodat> sweet thnx mad
[23:02] <amichair> is it possible to use a livecd iso as an apt source?
[23:04] <harjot> How do i hardlink a samba share?
[23:04] <harjot> on 8.04
[23:05] <the_madman> amichair: I believe so.
[23:06] <whodat> madman my zoom shortcut is disabled???
[23:06] <amichair> the_madman: any idea how?
[23:07] <the_madman> amichair: Go to Software Sources, click, "Add CD", I think
[23:07] <the_madman> whodat: For KWin?
[23:08] <whodat> srry im ubu
[23:08] <the_madman> whodat: Like, Super+"="?
[23:08] <amichair> the_madman: that looks for an actual CD, not an iso
[23:08] <the_madman> amichair: Aah, an ISO.
[23:08] <the_madman> amichair: Theoretically, you could mount it somewhere with -o loop
[23:09] <amichair> the_madman: and then how do I add it as a source?
[23:09] <whodat> o boy I screwed up somethin
[23:10] <the_madman> amichair: Then add a standard source (not a CD), then add the directory you've mounted the ISO to.
[23:10] <whodat> screen follows cursor now
[23:10] <whodat> lol
[23:10] <the_madman> whodat: Super+"-" zooms out, Super+"0" returns zoom to normal.
[23:11] <whodat> tryin to restore defaults
[23:11] <whodat> thinkin maybe conflict in effects man
[23:12] <whodat> what is super key?
[23:12] <amichair> the_madman: thanks
[23:13] <whodat> whew I found a free one to assign
[23:14] <whodat> was getting drunk watching screen swim
[23:14] <the_madman> whodat: Usually the Windows key.
[23:15] <whodat> is the super key the logo ? ahh thnx
[23:15] <harjot> How do i hardlink a samba share?
[23:16] <whodat> harjot is it on your lan?
[23:18] <harjot> Yes
[23:18] <harjot> Sorry just a sec
[23:18] <harjot> I need to reboot
[23:19] <harjot> OK
[23:19] <harjot> It is on my lan
[23:20] <harjot> whodat: any idea?
[23:20] <harjot> whodat: ln doesnt work
[23:21] <whodat> yea gimme a sec
[23:21] <whodat> just did this
[23:22] <harjot> ok
[23:22] <whodat> see here
[23:23] <whodat> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/share-ubuntu-home-directories-using-samba/
[23:23] <whodat> works for me
[23:23] <harjot> let me try
[23:24] <harjot> So bsaically im trying to get a samba share to show up as a real folder in my home
[23:24] <whodat> yes
[23:24] <harjot> That is explaining how to share your home directory
[23:25] <harjot> Im aiming at hardlinking a directory that appears as a share already
[23:25] <whodat> from both boxs yes
[23:26] <whodat> it will be under places on hardy thru lynx
[23:27] <whodat> drag and drop works fine for me to use it like any other folder
[23:27] <whodat>                            however I dont think its secure enough for wan
[23:30] <harjot> ?
[23:30] <whodat> it shares all your folders
[23:31] <harjot> But how exactly is the share a folder?
[23:31] <harjot> Its under somewhere else
[23:31] <harjot> Not home
[23:32] <whodat> the share is a link always
[23:33] <whodat> maybe you want to rsync?
[23:34] <whodat> 2 copies of same folder on 2 boxes?
[23:36] <harjot> how?
[23:36] <whodat> is that what you want?
[23:37] <harjot> I have a network harddrive with some movies, and i wish to Hardlink the share to my computer
[23:37] <harjot> I.e. The network harddrive should appear as a folder on my computer
[23:38] <whodat> gnump3d will serve all that
[23:39] <harjot> gnump3d?
[23:39] <whodat> yea its great to serve media again for me
[23:40] <whodat> and you can see it from any box anywhere
[23:40] <harjot> its a server
[23:40] <whodat> yes
[23:40] <harjot> i need a hardlink cause i have another server that handles avi ---> mp4
[23:41] <whodat> go to the folder r clik properties shares
[23:41] <whodat> share this folder
[23:42] <whodat> will make a share
[23:42] <harjot> no no im trying to hardlink an already shared folder
[23:42] <whodat> but it still is a link in places
[23:42] <harjot> where?
[23:43] <harjot> Whats the directory
[23:43] <whodat> ok srry all i know
[23:43] <Scunizi> harjot: you using samba? if you are you can mount the share ... kinda like a link
[23:43] <harjot> Ive got it mounted
[23:43] <harjot> I need it as a folder
[23:43] <Scunizi> harjot: in the machine you want to put the hard link?
[23:43] <harjot> yeah
[23:43] <Scunizi> so why do you need a link?
[23:44] <harjot> Complcated
[23:44] <Scunizi> if it's mounted to a directory in the remote machine via samba/cifs you should be done
[23:44] <harjot> How do i mount to a directory?
[23:45] <Scunizi> First.. is it actually setup on the machine hosting the share as a samba share
[23:45] <Scunizi> wait..
[23:45] <Scunizi> are both these machines ubuntu or one windows?
[23:45] <harjot> THe host is a network hardrive
[23:45] <harjot> The client is this laptop kubuntu 8.04
[23:46] <Scunizi> like a NAS?
[23:46] <harjot> I dont know
[23:46] <Scunizi> does it have a brand name? is it usb based or ethernet?
[23:46] <harjot> Network hardrive shares via samba
[23:46] <harjot> Its ethernet based
[23:46] <harjot> so like nas
[23:47] <Scunizi> ok.. so it has it's own ip address right?
[23:47] <harjot> Yup
[23:47] <Scunizi> static?
[23:47] <harjot> Ive connected to it
[23:47] <harjot> Now i need a hardlink
[23:47] <harjot> static
[23:47] <Scunizi> ok.. is this a store bought device?
[23:47] <harjot> yes
[23:48] <Scunizi> what's the make and model and I'll look it up and see if it's running samba
[23:49] <harjot> it shares via windows
[23:49] <harjot> buffalo linkstation 2tb
[23:49] <Scunizi> k.. just a sec
[23:51] <amichair> pat5star: well, I managed to get nm back (using cable), looked at logs as you recommended, and found it to look just like bug #432353
[23:51] <Scunizi> cool.. looks like a server with a shared folder and print server combined.. all based in linux :).. most likely running samba so windows machines can see it.
[23:53] <Scunizi> harjot: do you have samba installed on the machine you want to put the hard link?
[23:55] <harjot> yes
[23:55] <harjot> ive already connected to it
[23:55] <Scunizi> ok.. in what way?
[23:55] <harjot> Network folder
[23:55] <harjot> smb://192.168.0.3/media
[23:55] <harjot> Now i want to hardlink that
[23:57] <Scunizi> ok.. well what you *really* want to do is add a line to your /etc/fstab to mount it to a folder of your choice on boot.. It's not really a hard link perse but you're mounting it as a device on your network to a folder on your laptop designated only for that mount
[23:58] <Scunizi> that way when you boot the laptop if the NAS is on it will automagically be mounted and available to you in your /home directory
[23:58] <harjot> How can i do that?
[23:58] <Scunizi> I'm looking for the line or some docs for you .. hang on.