[00:00] <user766> this started the gdm from the login prompt...
[00:00] <bobo1231> oh.. my computer just krashed. completly locked up :-(
[00:00] <user766> But before that, I had to reset my machine BIOS to default and reboot back in.
[00:02] <bobo1231> (I guess it is something hardware related though.) is there a log for this channel where it is possible to see the things sayd around the ltime?
[00:03] <user766> Then I installed the "Screens and Graphics" package, to reset the monitor type from Plug 'n Play to Generic 1024x768
[00:03] <Chesamo> !logs
[00:03] <ubot2> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[00:03] <bobo1231> phillw: and yes it is just for testing other dists and I'm not going to share my home-directory between the dists
[00:04] <user766> it then showed all the combinations in System/Preferences/Screen Resolution menu
[00:05] <user766> And I was able to change from the lower choices and get a larger screen.
[00:05] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: etherpad is open source. If that does everything you need you could install that on your server - http://code.google.com/p/etherpad/
[00:06] <TexasJam> kermiac_work:  thanks. Im going to play with that for now.
[00:06] <kermiac_work> TexasJam: no probs :)
[00:06] <user766> The OEM monitor driver (Gateway Vivitron 15) did not work, but the Generic driver did.
[00:07] <phillw> bobo1231: having just had a 'normal' update trash one of my stable installs, I am wary of what systems do have access to /home - for test ones they get an rsync -aS version of it
[00:07] <user766> The video card is an onboard nvidia 6150LE
install ufw and open a terminal window to configure it.
[00:13] <user766> when ufw is installed, in a terminal window, type: sudo ufw default deny,
[00:14] <user766> no comma.  Then, sudo ufw allow ssh/tcp
[00:15] <user766> Then, sudo ufw logging on sudo ufw enable sudo ufw status
[00:16] <phillw> uesr766 grub could not re-install itself onto the MBR, things were pretty grim :-(
[00:16] <user766> there is an mbr package
[00:17] <user766> .deb I think
[00:17] <phillw> yeah, it's called having a seperate home ;-)
[00:18] <user766> I reload a fresh OS when that has happened to me.
[00:18] <stlsaint> which is a very smart idea
[00:18] <stlsaint> (having a seperate home)
[00:19] <user766> repartition and dual boot
[00:19] <phillw> if tryng to rescue via http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484363 is not wanting to work, I'd be interested for other ideas
[00:20] <phillw> I'd go for seperate home via the psychocats one then a re-install
[00:21] <phillw> i just have to put my LAMP etc back on, all data is safe :-)
[00:23] <user766> Can you press <ESC> on boot?
[00:24] <phillw> user766, i have several systems on my computer. but it is usually one of the test ones that borks :p
[00:25] <user766> I knowhutyoumean
[00:26] <user766> thanks. it's been real
[00:49] <|friTTe|> any fast and easy to way to get of the mounted devices from the desktop?
[00:49] <|friTTe|> been configuring avm and wanna tidy up
[00:49] <acerimmer_> |friTTe|: umount
[00:49] <|friTTe|> ok so its the only wa<y?
[00:50] <ZachK-> Hello team
[00:50] <Chesamo> |friTTe|: Devices show up on the desktop if they're mounted in /mount. I believe there's a way to change the default mount location, but I don't remember what it is.
[00:50] <Chesamo> Erm
[00:50] <|friTTe|> ok
[00:50] <Chesamo> They show up if they're in /media
[00:50] <|friTTe|> hi ZachK-
[00:50] <Appl6> |friTTe|: You can right click the icons, and there will probably be an option to Unmount or Safely Remove.
[00:50] <|friTTe|> ok
[00:50] <Chesamo> Appl6, acrrimmer_, I'm not sure that's what |friTTe| wants to do
[00:51] <|friTTe|> no
[00:51] <Appl6> Chesamo: Yeah, it's either "they're on my desktop now and I want to unmount" or "they show up on the desktop when I mount them and that annoys me".
[00:52] <ZachK-> Hmm
[00:52] <ZachK-> So what exactly do want to happen
[00:52] <|friTTe|> hehe yeah they annoy me
[00:52] <|friTTe|> but i guess i can live with it
[00:54] <Chesamo> |friTTe|: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=828544&postcount=4  Change /dev/sda to /dev/usb and this will work for you
[00:55] <|friTTe|> cool thanks
[01:16] <KeithB> Got a problem installing XUbuntu 9.04  First time Linux user.
[01:16] <Chesamo> KiethB: Shoot
[01:17] <KeithB> Ok I tried installing onto a different hard drive. I already have windows 7, but when I try to load it takes me to a grub command prompt and does load load without the LiveCD
[01:18] <Chesamo> KeithB: Did you install GRUB to the master boot record of the hard drive you installed Xubuntu onto?
[01:18] <KeithB> That I don't know how to do
[01:19] <Chesamo> KeithB: Hm. Try this: unplug the Win7 hard drive and see what happens
[01:20] <KeithB> I do see the Linux hard drive when I boot into XUbuntu though
[01:20] <Chesamo> KeithB: Just making sure you didn't accidentally write GRUB to the Win7 hard drive
[01:21] <Chesamo> Actually, KeithB, any particular reason you're installing a year-old version?
[01:22] <KeithB> Well, actually I got this version from a friend, instead of looking to make sure there wasn't a newer one..I'd prefer 10.04 actually
[01:23] <KeithB> Would it be beneficial to just try and install 10.04
[01:24] <Chesamo> KeithB: Probably, yeah. debian-installer's been updated since 9.04.
[01:24] <KeithB> So I just go to the website and get the LiveCD for 10.04
[01:24] <Chesamo> KeithB: Yep, sounds about right.
[01:25] <KeithB> Well, thanks a lot. You're the 1st person in 2 days that's actually answered a question for me..many thanks
[01:25] <Chesamo> KeithB: In here? That's surprising
[01:26] <KeithB> Well, thanks again. Hopefully that'll solve it.
[01:27] <Chesamo> KeithB: You know where to find us
[01:27] <Chesamo> ...aw....
[01:28] <dtwrites> Dumb question (me again), I've finally figured out that I have no sound package installed. Where do you find miscellaneous loose packages?
[01:28] <dtwrites> And, what exactly am I looking for?
[01:28] <dtwrites> I've the ancient eMac (power pc type).
[01:29] <phillw> dtwrites: ubuntu comes with sound package, are you using an older xubuntu install?
[01:29] <Chesamo> dtwrites: To find packages, you can use Synaptic. I happen to know, however, that the packages you want are linux-sound-base and alsa-utils.
[01:29] <Chesamo> dtwrites: which can be installed using sudo aptitude install alsa-utils
[01:29] <phillw> for the ppc apples?
[01:29] <dtwrites> Thanks Chesamo.
[01:30] <dtwrites> Phillw, I do not find it and I have no beeps,etc. when I enable sounds.
[01:30] <phillw> what Mac is it?
[01:31] <dtwrites> As far as I know I've got the 9.10 install. It was an upgrade from 9.04
[01:31] <dtwrites> eMac G4
[01:31] <phillw> dtwrites: give me a few minutes
[01:31] <dtwrites> Take all the time you need.
[01:32] <phillw> dtwrites: have an ask over at http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[01:33] <dtwrites> -k, thanks, phillw.
[01:33] <phillw> they're really good, the even helped me with a G3 Mac
[01:33] <dtwrites> Wow.
[01:34] <phillw> yup, it can work on a G3, so a G4 is piece of cake for them ;-)
[01:36] <phillw> dtwrites: the sticky for versions is http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714
[01:36] <dtwrites> Oh thank you.
[01:37] <stlsaint> ZachK_: ping
[02:01] <glorious__> Chesamo: are you there?  After getting both machines on the same network and researching and fiddling w/ this and that I got TeamViewer (commercial but free for personal use) working.
[02:01] <Chesamo> glorious__: Cool
[02:02] <glorious__> Its super, super simple, all-in-one both server and client, Linux (complete w/ variety of packaging/ distro support), windoze, mac, and Iphone!!!
[02:04] <glorious__> It didn't require ANY ip or ssh or anything else.  Just an ID and password.  This'll work great for supporting all kinds of newbies.
[02:04] <a_user> hi
[02:04] <a_user> Chinese input support on 9.04?
[02:05] <glorious__> Eventually I do want to figure out how to use the other FLOSS tools, but for now its great to just get going.
[02:06] <Chesamo> glorious__: I wasn't even aware TeamViewer had a Linux version. Good to know...
[02:06] <a_user> SCIM does not start at login
[02:06] <a_user> and it is not on the menu
[02:06] <a_user> when i log back in SCIM isnt in the panel
[02:07] <a_user> when i run scim manually there is no option to choose chinese input
[02:07] <a_user> how to fix?
[02:07] <glorious__> it essentially allows either end to initiate, providing invite support.  This could be useful for providing #ubuntu-beginners support.
[02:08] <Chesamo> glorious__: I've used TeamViewer in the past. I know it's nifty.
[02:14] <stlsaint> BAH teamviewer :D
[02:17] <glorious__> I guess the linux version of Teamviewer was just released in April.  They have both .deb and .rpm 32bit and 64bit.
[02:20] <phillw> stlsaint: it's about the same as deciding on the new documentaion system?
[02:21] <stlsaint> phillw: huh?
[02:23] <phillw> stlsaint: are you on the doc's team mailing list ;-)
[02:34] <glorious__> stlsaint: I was trying to get rdesktop or tsclient running w/ Vista.  No luck.  So I'm very happy to get something working.
[02:37] <stlsaint> aye, i got ya
[02:53] <glorious__> If I'm interpreting this right, according to this review, TeamViewer for Linux is running on Wine, under the covers http://www.the-source.com/2010/04/review-teamviewer/
[03:06] <Buuntu> anyone use arch?
[03:06] <Chesamo> Buuntu: Arch Linux?
[03:06] <Buuntu> yeah
[03:07] <Chesamo> Buuntu: I have a little bit. What's up?
[03:07] <Buuntu> Chesamo, just having trouble getting it to boot with grub2 (I think that's the problem)
[03:08] <stlsaint> collinp: ping
[03:08] <Chesamo> Buuntu: dual-boot with Ubuntu?
[03:08] <Buuntu> Chesamo, I tried adding an entry to chainload grub legacy but that didn't work either, does this look right? http://pastebin.org/323843 (it's /dev/sdb9)
[03:08] <Buuntu> Chesamo, yes
[03:09] <Chesamo> Buuntu, that looks correct to me.
[03:10] <Buuntu> Chesamo, yeah, grub's just stupid and never works for me
[03:10] <Chesamo> Buutnu: Any particulare reason you're chainloading Legacy?
[03:11] <Buuntu> Chesamo, so that I can boot arch
[03:11] <stlsaint> Buuntu: GRUB IS NOT STUPID...DONT SAY THAT ABOUT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:11] <Buuntu> stlsaint, yeah he is
[03:12] <Buuntu> stlsaint, he never get its right
[03:12] <Chesamo> Buuntu, why can't you just boot using GRUB2 normally? Why must you chainload?
[03:12] <Buuntu> Chesamo, because the entry that's automatically added gives me an error
[03:12] <stlsaint> Buuntu: so make a custom entry
[03:12] <stlsaint> Buuntu: what error are you getting?
[03:13] <Buuntu> stlsaint, Error: Unable to determine major/minor number of root device /dev/sdb9
[03:13] <Buuntu> stlsaint, after it loads a bit
[03:13] <stlsaint> Buuntu: your uuid's are not adding up
[03:13] <stlsaint> or fstab is not mounting / correctly
[03:13] <a_user> hi
[03:14] <a_user> i installed chinese language support
[03:14] <a_user> SCIM came up ok this time
[03:15] <Buuntu> stlsaint, alright, I'll just use the /dev name, but I doubt the installation would have messed up the UUID by itself...
[03:15] <Chesamo> Buuntu: It's been known to happen
[03:16] <stlsaint> Buuntu: i had a similar issue recently...youd be surprised
[03:16] <Buuntu> stlsaint, actually no, it doesn't even use the UUID in that fstab :P
[03:16] <stlsaint> Buuntu: what does it use?
[03:16] <Buuntu> stlsaint, the /dev name
[03:17] <Buuntu> http://pastebin.org/323868 that's the fstab
[03:31] <collinp> Hmm?
[03:38] <stlsaint> collinp: buuntu had an arch issue...
[03:42] <glorious__> stlsaint: I just saw the prices for TeamViewer.  Whew!  They don't seem to have anything between free and $749 5 user business. :(
[03:42] <stlsaint> yea
[03:44] <glorious__> stlsaint: way slick though.  i hope they might provide something in between pricewise in the future.
[03:48] <tenach> Is there any way to add items to the menu where empathy and evolution show up?  The little mail icon on the Gnome top bar.
[03:51] <ZachK_> tenach: there should be
[03:52] <tenach> ZachK_, I uninstalled Evolution and would like to find a way to add something like gmail notify so that I get email notifications even without using evolution.
[03:53] <ZachK_> tenach: one sec
[03:53] <tenach> ZachK_, alright.
[03:53] <ZachK_> ah tenach what mail client do you intend on using?
[03:53] <tenach> I've been looking forever.   Today is not my day for searching.
[03:53] <ZachK_> Thunderbird?
[03:53] <tenach> ZachK_, I don't plan on using a mail client.
[03:54] <Appl6> tenach: http://lifehacker.com/5239203/gmail-notifier-is-a-light-convenient-email-checker-for-ubuntu
[03:54] <tenach> I already have it, I just am looking for a way to have it inside that convenient spot
[03:55] <ZachK_> tenach: so you already have it you just need or want, to put it on the applet menu
[03:55] <tenach> Yeah.
[03:55] <tenach> I'd rather it make the mail icon change color than use libnotify.
[03:55] <ZachK_> Ah ok...that will help my search paramaters
[03:57] <Appl6> tenach: https://launchpad.net/gm-notify
[03:57] <duanedesign> /http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/gmail-notifier-puts-gmail-in-your.html
[03:58] <duanedesign> tenach: ^^  is that what you are wanting to do?
[04:03] <tenach> Appl6, duanedesign, you both rock. I failed to search well today.
[04:11] <duanedesign> tenach: cool. I hope you get it set up how you want. I just started using Google Calendar, which i import into Evolution and my phone.
[04:16] <tenach> duanedesign, for a long time the only thing I used evolution for was to import my calendar
[04:16] <ZachK_> noisserpxe: welcome
[04:16] <ZachK_> welcome back switchgirl
[04:18] <ZachK_> acerimmer_: HI!
[04:18] <acerimmer_> ZachK_: greetings
[04:19] <ZachK_> acerimmer_: How are thee this day?
[04:19] <acerimmer_> desperately trying to correct an uploaded file for which I found the typo - AFTER final publication,  :(
[04:21] <ZachK_> acerimmer_: Not good, do I find that
[04:22] <acerimmer_> my first dtp project in scribus.  not at ALL intuitive, but I managed to learn as i went.  Then I put the output up on "spreadubuntu" and saw the mis spelled word.
[04:22] <acerimmer_> DOH
[04:23] <ZachK_> Ah
[09:33] <that_guy_> how do I open KISO as a root?
[09:34] <leoquant> that_guy_: What is KISO?
[09:35] <that_guy_> KISO is a sorta like Daemon Tools. It simulate ISO files
[09:36] <leoquant> that_guy_: how do you start the prog?
[09:36] <leoquant> via the terminal/
[09:36] <that_guy_> no, I just tried to open using the shortcut
[09:37] <that_guy_> but i havent tried via terminal
[09:37] <leoquant> what does KISO in the terminal?
[09:38] <that_guy_> It worked via terminal/.. thatnks
[09:38] <leoquant> ok
[09:38] <leoquant> enjoy ubuntu
[09:41] <that_guy_> i love it!!
[10:31] <that_guy_> how do i make it so that I can watch ISO files?
[10:40] <that_guy_> hello?
[10:46] <leoquant> sudo kiso
[10:47] <leoquant> Click "CD Image" -> "Convert image" (or press Ctrl+C) and select the image to convert.
[10:47] <leoquant> your_image.img will be converted to your_image.iso. The converted image is placed into the same folder as your original image.
[10:47] <leoquant> You can burn .ISO images with k3b or any other program.
[10:48] <leoquant> that_guy_: thats all i know bout this
[10:50] <that_guy_> will i be able to watch the file without having to burn to a dsic
[10:51] <that_guy_> disc
[10:51] <leoquant> maybe this thread is also helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35378
[10:52] <leoquant> VLC comes with many codecs it will prob. do the job
[10:52] <leoquant> and your prob have the install gmount
[10:54] <leoquant> the=to
[10:55] <that_guy_> ssssweet
[10:58] <leoquant> that_guy_: good luck, i am off for a break now
[11:06] <that_guy_> cool beans
[15:20] <shahan> for any unknown reason I am getting  very poor Internet(Wifi) speed on my LINUX then Windows....
[15:20] <shahan> using Lucid Lynx
[15:21] <shahan> Desktop edition
[15:23] <shahan> It was giving me an  excellent service for last 1 month
[15:27] <geirha> Sounds like a problem with the wifi-driver for your wifi-adapter
[15:27] <phillw> hi shahan, I've not experienced it, I can only suggest you have a look on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336
[15:27] <shahan> geirha: what can I do now?
[15:27] <shahan> geirha: its performing an excellent in XP
[15:28] <shahan> phillw: ok.... let me check
[15:29] <geirha> Some hardware manufacturers make excelent drivers for windows and just plain ignores linux
[15:29] <geirha> What you can do very much depends on what wifi-adapter you have. For some you can use the windows driver in linux, which may give you better performance
[15:30] <mohi1> geirha, but it was perfect for him for about a week. finally he updated Mysql package and will that have some effect
[15:30] <mohi1> or.....
[15:30] <phillw> hmm, sounds like a regression
[15:31] <shahan> It was giving me an  excellent service for last 1 month
[15:31] <geirha> Ah, yeah, could be it was introduced in a kernel update
[15:31] <phillw> ::cries:: they killed my 3G device with one of them
[15:32] <phillw> shahan: do you still have the option to boot into the older kernel?
[15:32] <geirha> shahan: You can do a little test on that, reboot, and at the grub menu, choose the previous kernel, maybe try the one before that as well. See if you get good speeds with any of them.
[15:33] <shahan> phillw: I have deleted the old one
[15:33] <phillw> shahan: bad move :-(
[15:34] <shahan> phillw: :(
[15:34] <phillw> it _may_ still be available via synaptic
[15:34] <shahan> phillw: what I have to do?
[15:34] <phillw> always, but always keep your last working kernel.
[15:35] <shahan> phillw: ok
[15:35] <shahan> phillw: give me any suggestion for my present situation
[15:35] <shahan> :(
[15:35] <phillw> I'm in lubuntu atm, but it should be under System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[15:36] <kdotj> afternoon
[15:36] <goodtime> im supposed to get 12mbs but it runs only 1.7mbs max
[15:37] <goodtime> im getting a new modem though saturday
[15:37] <goodtime> this one is outdated
[15:38] <phillw> shahan, type in linux in the search bar, find the entry for your current kernel then install the least oldest one.
[15:39] <phillw> linux-headers is the one to look for.
[15:41] <shahan> phillw:  on System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager?
[15:42] <phillw> once it has installed you need to run 'sudo update-grub' from a terminal session so that grub can add it to your list of options on booting, once done when you reboot you should see the older kernel in the list
[15:42] <phillw> shahan: yes
[15:42] <shahan> ok
[15:43] <shahan> phillw: what I will write on the Search bar?
[15:43] <phillw> linux-header
[15:45] <phillw> you should see the one that is currently installed, and also older ones, click on the lower version number from the one you have. and mark for install.
[15:48] <shahan> phillw: ok... tnx
[16:14] <phillw> [alt] + [f2] no longer brings up the 'run' window, anyone got any ideas?
[16:18] <geirha> panel isn't running, or the key-combo has been changed in keyboard shortcuts
[16:21] <Darkness_Des> If one has a virtual machine and dedicated say, 512 MB of RAM, does it only reserve that RAM when running or is that amount always reserved for VirtualBox only?
[16:21] <kdotj> only when the VB is running
[16:22] <kdotj> when the VB is off it takes up no system resources
[16:22] <Darkness_Des> So, if I closed the virtual machine and powered it off and everything, but still had VirtualBox open, my RAM would be free?
[16:22] <goodtime> yeah id crash if i vb windows
[16:23] <Darkness_Des> So.... Program up = okay, no RAM reserved, but Virtual Machine active = Reserved?
[16:24] <kdotj> Darkness_Des, if you have VituralBox open (the program, but no VM's running), it would only use the RAM needed to run the interface, but not ue any reserved RAM
[16:24] <Darkness_Des> Cuz I always dedicate 512 MB of my 2 gigs of ram to a virtual machine, and I've made 3 so far (Debian, openSUSE, and FreeBSD)
[16:24] <Darkness_Des> Alright, thank you very much!
[16:24] <kdotj> yea thats fine, it doesnt mean you have lost 1.5gig al the time
[16:25] <kdotj> only when the machines are running, you lose the respective RAM dedicated to that VM
[16:28] <phillw> geirha: has any updates been reported to cause that? i _think_ you can delete a .config to force a re-create, but I could be well off the mark
[16:29] <geirha> phillw: recreate?  do you see the Alt+F2 combo in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts?
[16:30] <phillw> it's on an lxde based system (lubuntu), so keyboard shortcuts are not in the preferences, but it works fine.
[16:31] <geirha> Ah, I'm not familiar with lubuntu. In ubuntu it's gnome-panel that does the run-window
[16:31] <shahan> phillw: I have installed the kernel
[16:31] <shahan> phillw: also sudo update-grub
[16:32] <phillw> shahan: when you reboot, it should be there for to boot into below the current version, the lower the number the older it is ;-)
[16:34] <shahan> phillw: I have reboot the PC. but in GRUB there shows no change... no older kernel is shown.....
[16:34] <phillw> hmmm...
[16:35] <phillw> can you paste-bin the result of 'ls /boot' to http://pastebin.com and post back the link it gives you.
[16:37] <shahan> phillw: http://pastebin.com/xGqN62fu
[16:37] <shahan> phillw: there shows that the older kernel has not installed
[16:38] <shahan> phillw: its shows only one kernel...the latest one which is installed on my PC
[16:38] <geirha> You need the corresponding linux-image packages
[16:39] <phillw> hmm, idk then, you're going to have to ask some one else as to how to get an older kernel installed.
[16:39] <phillw> geirha: i asked that shahan install the linux header package
[16:39] <geirha> aptitude search '^linux-image'
[16:40] <phillw> thanks geirha,
[16:40] <geirha> phillw: They don't depend on the linux-image packages
[16:40] <shahan> will I install linux-image package?
[16:41] <geirha> Yes, the linux-image-<version> packages contains the actual kernels
[16:41] <shahan> "linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic" is it?
[16:42] <phillw> ahh, well In my pitiful defence I am only used to installing the newest kernel, I'm sorry about that shahan
[16:42] <shahan> geirha: "linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic" is it?
[16:43] <geirha> Yeah, sounds right
[16:45] <shahan> geirha: ok...
[17:50] <goodtime> hahaha cant install flashplayer
[17:51] <goodtime> this needs a tweek or 2
[17:51] <Chesamo> goodtime: Why not?
[17:51] <goodtime> man theres all kinds of problems with this os
[17:51] <goodtime> idk Chesamo good to see ya
[17:52] <goodtime> i tryed  sudo apt-get install flashplayer no package
[17:52] <goodtime> i tryed the softwear center
[17:53] <goodtime> nota
[17:53] <Chesamo> goodtime: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[17:53] <goodtime> ill try synaptic
[17:53] <phillw> goodtime: bearing in mind http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8734465.stm I'd not worry too much about it not working ;-)
[17:54] <goodtime> ok
[17:54] <goodtime> guess what Chesamo
[17:54] <Chesamo> what, goodtime
[17:57] <Chesamo> oh man, phillw. Thanks for the heads-up!
[17:57] <goodtime> my ram is running high again
[17:57] <goodtime> and the lappy is kinda hot
[17:57] <goodtime> im worried
[17:57] <goodtime> Chesamo: i would be willing to do some ssh at this point
[17:57] <goodtime> i installed it good at least
[17:57] <goodtime> you up to it i trust you
[17:57] <goodtime> so you can look at my lappy from there
[17:57] <goodtime> yes ty phillw
[17:58] <hobgoblin> Chesamo phillw - that was in today's upgrades on my lucid system
[17:58] <Chesamo> goodtime: I'd rather not have to SSH into someone's system. Not because I'm uncomfortable with it, but because opening your computer's SSH port (22) to the world is kind of a huge security hazard.
[17:58] <goodtime> wow
[17:59] <goodtime> thats a prob
[17:59] <goodtime> hmmm
[17:59] <phillw> it is todays security release
[17:59] <phillw> I'm not sure if the 64 bit one has been patched, though
[17:59] <goodtime> so how can i get my ram to relax then i know im a pain
[18:00] <goodtime> if i could just do that id be so greatfull id buy you 10 rounds at any bar
[18:00] <goodtime> lol
[18:01] <phillw> goodtime: relax you ram ??? (sorry a bit late to the party here)
[18:01] <goodtime> with some food even
[18:01] <goodtime> its running high on ram
[18:01] <Chesamo> phillw: He's having a RAM overuse issue. I thought it was a memory leak in Firefox since that was running high, but removing it didn't fix the problem.
[18:01] <phillw> have a look at either top or, if it is installed htop#
[18:01] <goodtime> right
[18:01] <goodtime> ok
[18:03] <hobgoblin> goodtime: just checking that you're not mistaking ram usage that is normal as abnormal after being used to windows
[18:04]  * mohi1 gives hobgoblin a bottle of wine
[18:04]  * hobgoblin thanks mohi1 but refuses to share as he's a pig 
[18:04] <mohi1> :(
[18:04] <mohi1> he = hobgoblin xD :P
[18:05] <hobgoblin> :)
[18:05] <Chesamo> Hehehe.
[18:05] <hobgoblin> absolutely I am
[18:05] <mohi1> lol i meant in that sentence
[18:06] <goodtime> 59%progrhams
[18:06] <goodtime> 40 cache
[18:06] <goodtime> 99%
[18:06] <goodtime> with only 4 things running
[18:06] <hobgoblin> goodtime: pastebin the whole of your free -m output
[18:06] <hobgoblin> or not as the case maybe
[18:07] <mohi1> hobgoblin, will the ls command work in windows7?? *sigh*
[18:07] <hobgoblin> mohi1: possibly
[18:07] <hobgoblin> not
[18:07] <Chesamo> mohi1: Nope. it's "dir"
[18:08] <hobgoblin> really I thought it was format
[18:08] <hobgoblin> :)
[18:08] <mohi1> Chesamo, i am expecting some good replies from him :D
[18:08] <hobgoblin> goodtime: did you catch my last message?
[18:08] <goodtime> crashed 2 time today now
[18:08] <mohi1> hobgoblin, what about chmod command?? ^_^
[18:09] <goodtime> total lock up
[18:09] <hobgoblin> only an admin can change a mod
[18:09] <mohi1> goodtime, welcome to my world. mine will crach twice per min :)
[18:09] <hobgoblin> goodtime: have you looked in your logs at all ?
[18:09] <mohi1> hobgoblin, i am the admin :P
[18:09] <hobgoblin> mohi1: less offtopic while we try to help someone ;)
[18:10] <mohi1> ok. agreed
[18:10] <iTarD> Could someone help me with installing Adobe Flash Player on the Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit system? I'm all new to the ubuntu OS :)
[18:11] <goodtime> yes
[18:11] <goodtime> there huge
[18:11] <goodtime> meening theres alot of them
[18:11] <hobgoblin> well yes - that does not mean they are bad though :)
[18:11] <Chesamo> iTarD: http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/install-64-bit-adobe-flash-player-on-ubuntu-904/
[18:11] <Chesamo> iTarD: It's been update for 10.04
[18:12] <hobgoblin> goodtime: have you worked out where one ends and the next starts?
[18:13] <goodtime> nope
[18:13] <Chesamo> iTarD: Here's a better link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[18:14] <phillw> Chesamo: has adobe made the security patch for 64 bit?
[18:14] <Chesamo> phillw: I don't think so. Let me go check
[18:14] <hobgoblin> goodtime: ok - open the log viewer - try the messages one to start with - go right to the very botttom - that is the current boot - now go up the page and you will see the timestamp in the middle changing
[18:14] <phillw> last i heard, they had not, but it would be good to update a thread on the forum if they have
[18:14] <goodtime> ok ill try
[18:14] <Chesamo> phillw: Nope. https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[18:15] <hobgoblin> goodtime: eventually you will go past 0.0000 and then you are at the end of the last boot - check for anything that looks odd- though it might be it all does :)
[18:15] <phillw> hmm, poor 64bit users :-(
[18:15] <goodtime> im opening ssh brb
[18:15] <hobgoblin> goodtime: also check syslog
[18:17] <hobgoblin> good time - if it really means nothing - pastebin the ends of you last boot - someone will have a look
[18:19] <iTarD> I have another problem as well. I cant get my sound to work. I got a headset plugged in to the motherboard jack-plugs. I have checked the sound-settings in Ubuntu, but i cant seem to find a solution there.
[18:21] <iTarD> Oh, never mind. I managed to figure it out :)
[18:23] <phillw> iTarD:  yeah, aren't defaults = mute a PITA
[18:32] <goodtime> Jun 11 13:30:38 goodtime-laptop pulseaudio[1404]: ratelimit.c: 2 events suppressed
[18:33] <hobgoblin> normal
[18:33] <hobgoblin> goodtime: can you run free -m and pastebin it let me have a look
[18:34] <goodtime> got someone ssh right now buddy
[18:34] <goodtime> ill give it a shot later
[18:34] <goodtime> ty
[19:09] <nUboon2Age> has anyone here got any experience w/ syncing evolution to palm and/or iphone?  Does it go smoothly or is it like walking on crocodiles?
[19:11] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PalmDeviceSetup  and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[19:16] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: thanks much.  Also if anyone has personal experience of what it is like, please speak up.
[19:16] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: No problem. Wish I could help more :c
[19:18] <iTarD> How do i move a into a folder in the same directory using Terminal? (Just learning the basics)
[19:18] <iTarD> Move a .png picture*
[19:18] <stlsaint> iTarD: use the cd command
[19:18] <Chesamo> iTarD: mv <file> folername/
[19:18] <stlsaint> ie: cd /Documents
[19:18] <Chesamo> stlsaint: They want to move a file
[19:19] <Chesamo> iTarD, stlsaint is telling you how to navigate, not how to move a file.
[19:19] <stlsaint> mv /Pictures/itard.png /new/folder/direcort
[19:19] <stlsaint> iTarD: use the mv command
[19:19] <iTarD> Yeh, Chesamo explained it for me :) And it worked
[19:23] <iTarD> What if i have multiple files i want to move to the same directory?
[19:24] <Chesamo> iTarD: If they're all png, then you can use mv *.png directory/
[19:24] <iTarD> Chesamo: Cool, it worked. Thank you
[19:25] <Chesamo> iTarD: You're very welcome.
[19:45] <phillw> iTarD: can i recommend you have a look over here --> http://ubuntu-manual.org/ it has a lot of good information
[19:47] <iTarD> Cool, I'll take a look :)
[19:47] <phillw> they put a lot of work into that, I'm sure you will find it very useful
[20:00] <ZachK_> hello greenjon
[20:00] <ZachK_> and acerimmer_
[20:00] <acerimmer_> yo
[20:01] <greenjon> hey
[20:43] <nUboon2Age> is there a way in irc to not have all the messages about people coming and leaving the channel and wotnot ?
[20:43] <nUboon2Age> Thanks in advance as I have to leave all a sudden like...
[20:43] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: Hide the join/part messages? Yes. What client?
[21:34] <phillw> ZachK_: ping
[21:51] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: I'm back for just long enough to type in the answer to your question:  Yes, those are the messages I mean, and Konversation is the client I'm using.  Thanks if you can leave a response.  I've looked in the Konversation manual and on the irc commands and I haven't figured it out yet.
[21:52] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages#Konversation
[21:52] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: thanks I'll investigate that..,
[21:55] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: I found that setting and am trying it now.  Thanks!
[22:00] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: that worked!  Also I found Konversation has an irc support channel on freenode #konversation, so I'll check that out too.
[22:00] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: Yeah, you'll usually get better support on the project channels. Good luck@
[22:06] <kdotj> who here uses X-CHAT?
[22:07] <Chesamo> kdotj: I do
[22:07] <mohi_away> meeeeeee :D
[22:07] <kdotj> ah good, i was hoping someone could help me
[22:08] <kdotj> how do i set it up so I connect to the ubuntu-beginner channels automatically when i start X-CHAT?
[22:09] <Chesamo> kdotj: Open the Server settings (should be ctrl+s, I think) and open FreeNode's properties. In the third tab, there should be a place to put channels to join on connect.
[22:11] <kdotj> Edit > Preferences > Network?
[22:11] <kdotj> as ctrl+s saves the transcript lol
[22:11] <Chesamo> kdotj: Yes, that. I'm on Xchat Aqua (OSX version) right now, so cmd+s is the shortcut there. My apologies.
[22:12] <kdotj> Chesamo:  no worries =]
[22:24] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: I'm over on this page and trying to figure out how to add a repository that would allow Synaptic to get konversation 1.3-1.  Do you know how I can do that?
[22:25] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo:  sorry, here's the page http://packages.debian.org/sid/konversation
[22:25] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: This is a better idea: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu
[22:26] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: Change "jaunty" to "lucid"
[22:27] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: okay, will that allow me to get this new version, 1.3-1?
[22:28] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: The "experiemental" repository will
[22:28] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: okay (looking)...
[22:39] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: hmmm... that doesn't seem to see anything newer than 1.2.3-1 which is installed now.  Is there a way to tell synaptic to look at the debian repository?
[22:40] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: You can add it, but I wouldn't reccomend it since there'll be a lot of duplicate entries. Scroll down to the bottom and download the deb file.
[22:41] <nUboon2Age> okay, i'll try that...
[22:42] <phillw> is there a windows programme that can check an md5cheksum on a cd?
[22:43] <Chesamo> phillw http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[22:44] <phillw> Chesamo: thanks, i am sooooo out of date with what win can do
[22:44] <Chesamo> phillw: google-fy
[22:44] <Chesamo> fu*
[22:45] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: sorry, I'm not seeing the link.  Can you direct me?
[22:45]  * phillw been googling, must like you ;-0
[22:46] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: Scroll down to the bottom of the Debian repository page
[22:48] <phillw> ahh, Chesamo  we tried that link earlier, pile of crepe
[22:49] <phillw> http://www.fastsum.com/ was no better
[22:49] <phillw> but, we're not a windows support area :p
[22:51] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: is it one of the .dsc, tar.bz2, or .tar.gz files?
[22:51] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: What archetecture is your system>
[22:51] <nUboon2Age> 32 bit(?)
[22:51] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: pate the output of uname -m
[22:51] <Chesamo> maste*
[22:51] <Chesamo> paste****
[22:52] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo:  i686
[22:52] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: Where are you located? (country)
[22:53] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: US.  Maybe I was on the wrong page.  Maybe this is the right paehttp://packages.debian.org/sid/konversation
[22:54] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/konversation/konversation_1.3-1_i386.deb
[23:01] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: okay, it made me go get a matching 1.3-1 version of Konversation-data before its dependencies were satisfied, but now its installing. I think I'd wandered off the page I'd sent you originally and that's why I got confused. :)
[23:04] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: i don't know how it works to upgrade a program while you're using it, so I probably better quit now.  Thanks!!!
[23:04] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: No problem
[23:16] <nUboon2Age> Chesamo: I'm now running Konversation 1.3.  Thanks!!!
[23:16] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: You're welcome!
[23:16] <Chesamo> ...what
[23:17] <nUboon2Age> what do those channel messages about DarkwingDuck and nhandler being kicked from the channel mean?
[23:18] <nUboon2Age> and ddecator too.
[23:18] <Chesamo> nUboon2Age: They just joined the team, so they get the +v flag on their nick. nhandler was just being a goof :P
[23:18] <nhandler> :)
[23:18] <nUboon2Age> what is a +v mean?
[23:19] <Chesamo> Voice
[23:19] <Chesamo> It means they can talk if the channel is muted
[23:20]  * phillw hides from nhandler