[00:07] <Dimmuxx> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
[00:07] <Dimmuxx> hmmm maybe there will be no 64bit 10.1 alpha/beta then
[00:08] <micahg> Dimmuxx: which is why I refused to entertain the idea of packaging it in the archive :)
[00:10] <Dimmuxx> the security hole probably won't be targeted for linux system anyways so I can live with the old version :P
[00:11] <micahg> Dimmuxx: IIRC, all platforms were affected
[00:11] <Dimmuxx> indeed they are but to use it you still need to target linux systems for it to do any real harm
[00:11] <Dimmuxx> windows trojans won't work in linux :P
[00:13] <Dimmuxx> heh they even closed the forum for it
[00:13] <micahg> Dimmuxx: the forum was to discuss the alpha release
[00:13] <fta> http://html5test.com/
[00:13] <Dimmuxx> that's pretty much a f**k you to all their testers
[00:14] <Dimmuxx> the statement says 10.1 64-bit linux beta, I have only seen the 10 64-bit linux alpha
[00:15] <Dimmuxx> so maybe there are some 10.1 64bit betas out somewhere ;)
[00:19] <BUGabundo> fta WTH!! 217?
[00:19] <BUGabundo> was at 144
[01:37] <[reed]> how quickly can 10.1 be pushed out?
[01:37] <bobby_> It'll be avalible on October 10th
[01:37] <[reed]> no
[01:37] <[reed]> it's released now
[01:38] <[reed]> no?
[01:38] <bobby_> That is just the alpha 1 release
[01:38] <[reed]> or is that just for windows?
[01:38] <bobby_> ... What are you talking about?
[01:38] <bobby_> 10.10 is currently an Alpha 1 release, which is pre-beta
[01:38] <[reed]> no
[01:38] <[reed]> it was released today
[01:38] <micahg> [reed]: it should be out soon
[01:38] <[reed]> oh
[01:38] <[reed]> Flash 10.1
[01:38] <micahg> [reed]: it's in maverick already
[01:38] <[reed]> not Ubuntu
[01:38] <[reed]> sorry
[01:38] <bobby_> OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH....
[01:38] <[reed]> micahg: ok, good
[01:38] <bobby_> I was like "WTF?"
[01:39] <bobby_> 10.1 is already out, but should be available in the repos soon
[01:39] <micahg> [reed]: tomorrow maybe? I know that the security team is working on it
[01:40] <[reed]> ok
[01:40] <[reed]> cool
[01:40] <[reed]> thanks
[01:40] <bobby_> I built it myself already, and it is loading flash pages much faster
[01:40] <micahg> [reed]: do you know who I can poke about lightning bugs?
[01:41] <[reed]> #calendar or #sunbird on moznet or whatever?
[01:41] <micahg> [reed]: I've tried calendar and no one is active :(
[01:41] <[reed]> yeah
[01:41] <[reed]> it's not a very active project
[01:41] <micahg> [reed]: ah
[09:16] <BUGabundo_remote> raises the sales,row to south!
[10:13] <fta2> BUGabundo_remote, i score 227+10 at home
[10:19] <BUGabundo_remote> nice
[10:19] <BUGabundo_remote> let me retest
[10:19] <BUGabundo_remote> same here
[10:19] <BUGabundo_remote> didn't notice the extra bonus
[10:20] <fta2> i only get 217+10 here
[10:20] <fta2> same version
[10:20] <fta2> different arch
[10:20] <fta2> weird
[10:23] <BUGabundo_remote> 217+10
[10:23] <BUGabundo_remote> 64bits
[11:31] <BUGabundo_remote> fta ff3.6 139+4
[11:32] <BUGabundo_remote> ff 3.7 176+9
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i think i found my zsync problem
[12:08] <gnomefreak> they prefer we use zsync instead os rsync they should install it by default. IIRC rsync is still default
[12:12] <gnomefreak> s/os/of
[12:17] <asac> !test
[12:17] <ubot4> hrm?
[12:48] <gnomefreak76> Host 'Development', running Linux 2.6.35-2-generic - Cpu0: Intel 1681 MHz; Up: 2:00; Users: 4; Load: 0.48; Free: [Mem: 35/243 Mio] [Swap: 637/714 Mio] [/: 23168/37885 Mio]; Vpenis: 30.8 cm;
[12:48] <gnomefreak76> ok at least that works
[12:49] <gnomefreak76> ok maybe this will work
[12:49] <gnomefreak76> damnit
[13:12] <BUGabundo_remote> gnomefreak v*penis* ???
[13:13] <gnomefreak76> BUGabundo_remote: its part of the script
[13:13]  * gnomefreak76 didnt write it
[13:14] <gnomefreak> ok i have to get this done. ill be back in an hour or 2
[13:19] <gnomefreak> the alternate iso's came back but they are oversized. the past few weeks there are not there or they are oversized. ok im going before i throw things
[14:03] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: hey, why is seamonkey listed in http://mozilla.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4173? I don't see xul listed in its depends...
[14:04] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, ara added that because it is in the PPA
[14:04] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: are we hoping to push 2.0.5 out as well or just do that some other time?
[14:04] <chrisccoulson> we were going to replace seamonkey 1 in the older releases at the next security update, as that's been rotting for a while now
[14:05] <jdstrand> ok
[14:05] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I'm going to ignore it for now
[14:05] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's ok
[14:05] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: when you/others have tested it and you tell me to push the button, I'll push it to -security
[14:06] <chrisccoulson> thanks. we're just waiting for the proper release for that now
[14:06] <jdstrand> (that's normally how we handled seamonkey, since it is in universe)
[14:06] <jdstrand> cool, thanks
[14:11] <jdstrand> fta: hi! mdz told me that he upgraded to chromium-browser in lucid-proposed and that the fonts look different, especially in google docs
[15:34] <asac> !test
[15:34] <ubot4> hrm?
[15:38] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: you are getting as boring as the bot
[15:38] <BUGabundo_remote> just join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <BUGabundo_remote> before your page refreshs, you know you are online or not
[15:38] <asac> is a bot there?
[15:39] <asac> no i dont know that
[15:39] <asac> website pages reload even after IP changed
[15:39] <asac> while irc stays offline for a longer time
[15:40] <asac> and if i get an answer from bot i at least know that everything i sent before my ping got submitted ;)
[15:40] <asac> anyway ... i am not in offtopic
[15:45] <asac> BUGabundo_remote: they dont want me to use offtopic for !test :(
[15:45]  * asac feels not loved
[15:48] <gnomefreak> bot is in all *buntu channels
[15:48] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: that's NOT what I mean
[15:48] <gnomefreak> hell this bot wont let me log in iu dont think
[15:48] <gnomefreak> @login
[15:48] <BUGabundo_remote> asac: I meant that if you are there, or any other active channel,
[15:48] <gnomefreak> @whoami
[15:48] <ubot4> gnomefreak: I don't recognize you.
[15:48] <BUGabundo_remote> you will see messages
[15:48] <gnomefreak> see :(
[15:48] <BUGabundo_remote> if you don't, then you are offline
[15:49] <asac> BUGabundo_remote: ok :)
[15:50] <asac> i might send a !test now and then here too ... just to spread the pain for lurkers ;)
[15:50] <asac> actually they said i should go into #test
[15:51] <BUGabundo_remote> yep
[15:51] <BUGabundo_remote> or #ubuntu-bots
[15:51] <BUGabundo_remote> or you can query the bot directly
[15:58]  * sebner hugs asac ;)
[15:58]  * asac hugs sebner 
[15:59] <sebner> asac: do you feel loved now? :D
[16:01] <fta> asac, do you find adding the official repos to my dashboards useful?
[16:01] <fta> asac, like here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html
[16:02] <asac> fta: what does "x" mean?
[16:02] <asac> is that supposed to be green or red or none?
[16:02] <asac> in general i find it useful
[16:02] <fta> asac, well, it means, "i haven't decided what to put there yet"
[16:03] <asac> is that second table a "wrapped line" table?
[16:03] <fta> all arches will sure be too wide
[16:03] <asac> ah  yeah
[16:03] <asac> i would say just make green
[16:03] <asac> and if there is a failure you could make a red with arch name
[16:03] <asac> like in ppas
[16:04] <fta> it's not really a wrapped table. i used -r --grouped --output chromium-daily.html chromium-daily/stable,beta chromium-daily/ppa,dev
[16:04] <fta> so it's two tables grouped on the same page
[16:04] <BUGabundo_remote> LOL @ (2010-06-11 16:02:52) fta: asac, well, it means, "i haven't decided what to put there yet"
[16:05] <fta> also, it seems only useful for me, so i'm not sure if it's worth spending more time on this
[16:26] <micahg> jdstrand: did someone upload openjdk for the hardy backport already?
[16:27] <jdstrand> micahg: chrisccoulson uploaded icedtea-gcjwebplugin that fixed the issue, yes
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i uploaded the icedtea plugin, but that's a separate source package from openjdk isn't it?
[16:27] <micahg> jdstrand: so we don't need the full backport?
[16:27] <jdstrand> micahg: I've updated the wiki and test results page for it as well
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> that wasn't what you were already working on was it?
[16:27] <jdstrand> it is a separate source package
[16:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, I was going to do a full backport of openjdk and replace the plugin from the in source one
[16:27] <jdstrand> it doesn't require the new openjdk afaics
[16:28] <jdstrand> though, that update would be nice to have (unrelated to the ff update)
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ah, there's probably no need to now. i got the plugin working yesterday without doing a backport
[16:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: great
[16:28] <jdstrand> micahg: if you are doing more with that, keep me posted as I will need to redo my tests/wiki page
[16:29] <micahg> jdstrand: well, I'm half way done with the backport, but I could work on that later if it's not needed for this update
[16:30] <jdstrand> micahg: that is up to you. I'm interested in the openjdk update in as much as I like people to provide updates for universe security :) but for the firefox transition, it is not required
[16:31]  * micahg will go back to finishing kazekhase this weekend and midbrowser
[16:34] <micahg> jdstrand: midbrowser is in main in hardy
[16:35] <jdstrand> micahg: noted
[16:35]  * jdstrand updates wiki
[16:35] <micahg> jdstrand: unless chrisccoulson wants to do it today, it'll be ready monday
[16:36] <jdstrand> micahg: is it moving to webkit or the newer xul?
[16:36] <micahg> jdstrand: new xul, I think it was a custom ubuntu app that was dropped
[16:37] <micahg> jdstrand: ah, it was an attempt at a mobile xul browser, but we have fennec now
[16:38]  * jdstrand wonders about xulrunner-1.9.2 down the line...
[16:39] <jdstrand> will we need to provide 1.9.3 to hardy if 1.9.2 is deprecated? I guess hardy desktop will be eol by then...
[16:40] <micahg> jdstrand: that's the hope :)
[16:41] <micahg> jdstrand: xul192 is the last xul to support PPC on OS X, so they'll probably keep it around a little longer
[16:42] <micahg> hopefully we can make it till next April
[16:42] <jdstrand> cool
[16:42]  * micahg is hoping Lucid can jump straight to xul-2.0.1
[16:42] <fta> jdstrand, 5.0.371 introduced some changes wrt the fonts. see http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/04/dev-channel-update_08.html
[16:44] <micahg> jdstrand: kazehakase is also missing from the wiki, but it's in universe
[16:44] <jdstrand> fta: thanks
[16:44] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, i confirm i get 227+10 on i386, and 217+10 on amd64
[16:44] <BUGabundo_remote> lol
[16:44] <BUGabundo_remote> fail
[16:44] <jdstrand> micahg: yeah-- I haven't added all the universe bits cause I'm not actively testing most of them. I recommended QA get involved
[16:44] <micahg> jdstrand: k
[16:45] <jdstrand> micahg: I might have mentioned that to chrisccoulson off-channel...
[16:48] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, oh, i know
[16:48] <fta> $ grep CHROMIUM_FLAGS /etc/chromium-browser/default
[16:48] <fta> CHROMIUM_FLAGS="--enable-webgl --enable-extension-timeline-api"
[16:49] <fta> webgl gave me some points
[16:59] <chrisccoulson> jdtrand - i figured out why its not using the freetype LCD filter now
[17:00] <chrisccoulson> oops, jdstrand ;)
[17:00] <chrisccoulson> i spelt your name wrong
[17:01] <jdstrand> oh cool
[17:03] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson, micahg: re universe> let me clarify slightly-- I'm not testing the universe bits as much, but I do need to have a complete list for pocket copying to -security (they just won't be in the USN). so as you upload stuff, please let me know
[17:03] <chrisccoulson> i've been keeping a list here as i upload things
[17:41] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, is xserver-* upgradable for you? mine is stuck since yesterday
[17:41] <fta> damb
[17:41] <fta> n
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, the fonts are looking really good on hardy now :)
[18:36] <jdstrand> \o/
[18:37] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: so will this be in a .3 upload?
[18:37] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - yeah, i will do a .3 upload tonight
[18:37] <jdstrand> nice
[18:37] <chrisccoulson> and then there will likely be another one next week for the last remaining font issue
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> but, i'm pretty much done with hardy now :)
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> other than testing everything is still working
[18:38] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: did you figure out the issue with totem-mozilla?
[18:39] <chrisccoulson> ah, no, i've got no idea what would cause that. i did another upload to put the symlinks in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which is consistent with where we put them on lucid
[18:39] <chrisccoulson> but that doesn't solve your issue
[18:39] <chrisccoulson> it's like something deleted all the symlinks from your plugins folder ;)
[18:40] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: well, flash worked, and it isn't in /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins
[18:40] <jdstrand> actually, hold on...
[18:41] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, yeah, flash works because it is in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[18:43] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: openjdk seems to work, and it isn't in /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins
[18:43] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I purged and installed totem-mozilla and still nothing
[18:43] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, yeah, that's in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins too
[18:43] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm
[18:43] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: maybe totem-mozilla should be put in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins since that seems to work?
[18:44] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, it should be in there now (i did that with the last upload)
[18:44] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: ubuntu4?
[18:45] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, it's currently ubuntu3.8.04.3
[18:45] <chrisccoulson> where did you get ubuntu4 from? :)
[18:46] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I didn't upgrade yet and guessed that is what you used, since you used ubuntu3 before
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> ah, ubuntu3 is the version in -updates
[18:46] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: let me try that one. if it works, I'll stop pestering you about it :)
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> i hope it works, otherwise i'm completely confused ;)
[18:53] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: that update fixes it here. thanks!
[18:53] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, excellent, that's ok then :)
[18:54] <chrisccoulson> i will start on karmic now
[18:54] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: when you have the final hardy ff package, I'll run my tests through with clean VMs
[18:54]  * jdstrand updates wiki and QA page
[20:18] <jdstrand> micahg: are you working on midbrowser? I get "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.1...
[20:19] <jdstrand> micahg: that is with the released version..
[20:19] <micahg> jdstrand: yeah, this weekend
[20:19] <jdstrand> that is a fairly nower version range ;)
[20:19] <jdstrand> nower?
[20:19] <jdstrand> narrow
[20:19] <jdstrand> micahg: k
[20:20] <micahg> jdstrand: yeah, I'll try to make it variable like the rest of the xul apps
[20:20] <jdstrand> cool, thanks
[20:29] <fta> micahg, the timeout bug didn't move an inch :(
[20:30]  * micahg checks the archvie admin queue
[20:30] <micahg> jdstrand: you have time for bug 591758 today?
[20:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 591758 in tct (Ubuntu) "please remove 'timeout' from Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591758
[20:31] <micahg> fta: wait
[20:32] <micahg> fta: it's still being built, we need a new upload that doesn't build it
[20:33]  * micahg doesn't see why it would build in ubuntu and not debian
[20:34] <jdstrand> micahg: that bug is not clear to me. tct is in unstable, and we both have the same version
[20:34] <micahg> jdstrand: yeah, I just noticed that...
[20:34] <micahg> jdstrand: so, do we need an upload to drop the timeout binary and then have archive admin remove it?
[20:34] <jdstrand> tct is also in universe, so anything in main or restricted won't pull that into a build
[20:35] <micahg> jdstrand: the binary was removed in debian w/out removing it from the package
[20:35] <jdstrand> micahg: that would be one way to do it. it would be best to just follow Debian. Is there a Debian bug reference?
[20:35] <jdstrand> oh, that is weird
[20:35]  * micahg looks for it
[20:36] <micahg> debian 570997
[20:36] <ubot4> Debian bug 570997 in ftp.debian.org "RM: timeout -- ROM; uninstallable; superseded by coreutils" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/570997
[20:37]  * micahg wonders why they didn't do a -2 to drop the binary first
[20:37] <micahg> jdstrand: ^^^
[20:37] <jdstrand> micahg: in that case, a Debian bug should be filed, it should get fixed in 0.19-2 at which point we can sync it
[20:37] <jdstrand> micahg: yeah
[20:37] <micahg> jdstrand: k, should you unsub archive admin from our bug until that happens?
[20:38] <jdstrand> yes
[20:38] <micahg> jdstrand: k, thanks
[20:38] <jdstrand> I can do that and add a reference
[20:38] <micahg> fta: so, do you want to file the bug for debian to release a 1.19-2 to drop the binary?
[20:38] <micahg> fta: or I can do it over the weekend
[20:39] <fta> micahg, please do. i'm bad at following bugs elsewhere
[20:39] <micahg> fta: k, will do
[20:39] <fta> thanks
[20:39] <micahg> np
[21:04] <fta> jdstrand, micahg: just fyi, the reason i filed the timeout bug is that it broke chromium in maverick. it was fine in a ppa, but someone sync coreutils from debian in the meantime :(
[21:05] <jdstrand> hmm
[21:05] <jdstrand> fta: that is the latest security relevant one?
[21:05] <fta> yes
[21:10] <jdstrand> fta: I'll see what I can do. I'm unable to login to perform the removal atm
[21:11] <fta> thanks
[21:34] <micahg> fta: does switching the order to coreutils > 7,5 |  timeout help?
[21:34] <jdstrand> fwiw, it is removed
[21:34] <fta> micahg, no: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50008608/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.chromium-browser_5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu2~ucd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[21:36] <fta> i still see it in apt-cache policy timeout, i guess it takes some time to reach the index
[21:36] <micahg> fta: that seems to just have timeout
[22:06] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson, micahg: fyi, ctxextensions doesn't work, but I couldn't get it to work in hardy with 3.0.19 either. see the QA tracker for details
[22:06] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - yeah, that was my experience too. i'm not too bothered about making things work that didn't work before
[22:06] <jdstrand> no, me either
[22:06] <jdstrand> hence the 'fyi' :)
[22:07] <micahg> +it's in universe
[22:07] <jdstrand> though I could go to the upstream site and get it to work with 3.0.19, so it probably a packaging bug
[22:07] <jdstrand> (ie, by installing the xpi directly)
[22:07] <BUGa_depressed> fta: Jun 11 22:07:23 BluBUG kernel: [12916.541271] chromium-browse[22510]: segfault at 8 ip 0000000000f5fd6c sp 00007fff93765ca0 error 4 in chromium-browser[400000+27e2000]
[22:08] <jdstrand> anyhoo, I gave extensions a PASS on the wiki for what I tested and what others reported
[22:08] <micahg> jdstrand: chrisccoulson: I can try to look at it after I finish my other packaging tasks this weekend
[22:08] <jdstrand> (but noted the ctxextensions issue)
[22:08] <jdstrand> micahg: imho it would be a fairly low priority
[22:09] <micahg> jdstrand: k, so karmic updates would come first then?
[22:09] <jdstrand> it's broke now, it will continue to be broken
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i wouldn't waste too much time looking at things which already don't work
[22:09] <jdstrand> micahg: oh yes :)
[22:09] <micahg> k
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, karmic would be better
[22:09]  * micahg hopes to accomplish something this weekend :)
[22:09] <jdstrand> heh
[22:22] <fta> BUGabundo, me too. chromium-browse[22083]: segfault at 4 ip 08ba5177 sp bfa72e90 error 4 in chromium-browser[8048000+23c5000]
[22:23] <BUGabundo> got the log filled with those
[22:23] <BUGabundo> serious?
[22:23] <fta> BUGabundo, but i didn't loose any window. it's just the new flash crashing
[22:23] <BUGabundo> or just oververbose?
[22:23] <BUGabundo> yeah I got that at work
[22:23] <BUGabundo> flash crashed a few times
[22:23] <BUGabundo> didn't notice it here, yet
[22:46] <micahg> chrisccoulson: build7 for 3.6.4 FYI
[22:46] <chrisccoulson> micahg - cool, will get that uploaded in a bit
[22:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[23:28] <Dimmuxx> what's fixed in build 7?