[00:11]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[00:11] <tgm4883> I don't use them
[00:11] <tgm4883> some part of mythvideo though
[03:22] <Shadow__X> hey guys i am trying to install ubuntu but gparted isnt seeing my windows partition as the right size
[04:02] <rhpot1991> Shadow__X1: how far is it off?
[04:03] <mrand> Shadow__X1: are you sure that it's not just that it uses different units of measurement?
[04:04] <rhpot1991> magic hard drive estimates are common
[04:04] <superm1> why are you using gparted when installing?
[04:04] <rhpot1991> 1tb == 8.8779837072132 somethinbyte
[04:04] <rhpot1991> he may mean the installer step, or doing it by hand up front
[04:04] <mrand> there goes superm1 inserting logic
[04:05] <superm1> partman/ubiquity also uses libparted, but there shouldn't be any need to run gparted independently
[04:05] <rhpot1991> superm1: I've done a resize ahead of time so I could say use the largest free space I thinks
[04:05] <superm1> you (should) be able to do the same thing in the installer
[04:37] <Shadow__X1> off as in my ntfs partition comes up as 194gb when it really is 230gb
[04:37] <Shadow__X1> superm1: i have used the installer and gparted to verify that its not coming up right
[04:40] <Shadow__X1> and even selecting manual and doing the partitions myself /dev/sda2 which is my ntfs partition comes up as 160gb raw and used is unknown
[04:40] <Shadow__X1> which 160gb is still a ways from 230
[04:40] <mrand> Shadow__X1: my suggestion is to look at start and ending locations (presumably sector numbers) and compare that within Windows and gparted
[04:41] <Shadow__X1> mrand: ok how do i do that
[04:45] <Shadow__X1> mrand: in windows my drive is 230gb and i am able to mount it on the live cd
[04:47] <rhpot1991> Shadow__X1: drive or the partition?
[04:47] <Shadow__X1> sorry partition
[04:47] <tgm4883> you lose about 5GB for every 100, so 160 from 230 is odd
[04:48] <Shadow__X1> tgm4883: what do you mean
[04:48] <Shadow__X1> the partitions in the ubuntu installer are coming up as the incorrect amount
[04:48] <Shadow__X1> my drive is a 320gb drive
[04:48] <tgm4883> a 100GB drive is actually about 95GB
[04:48] <tgm4883> marketing vs engineering
[04:48] <Shadow__X1> a 230gb or so partition for windows
[04:49] <Shadow__X1> and that should leave me roughly with 83gb of space
[04:49] <Shadow__X1> but thats not whats showing up
[04:49] <Shadow__X1> tgm4883: yeah i know i am aware of that 1024 vs 1000
[04:50] <Shadow__X1> sda2 is coming up as a 160gb partition when in all actuality it is a 230gb partition
[04:50] <Shadow__X1> sorry if i havnt been clear in my explanation
[04:50] <Shadow__X1> its just very odd to me
[04:50] <mrand> Shadow__X1: fdisk shows the partition table
[04:51] <mrand> You can change units between sectors and cylinders
[04:52] <Shadow__X1> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:52] <Shadow__X1> sda 1 boot start 1 end 13 blocks 102400 id 7 system hpfs/ntfs
[04:52] <Shadow__X1> partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary
[04:53] <Shadow__X1> sda2 start 13 end 28047 blocks 225177600 id 7 system hpfs/ntfs
[04:53] <superm1> Shadow__X1, do you have bitlocker on?
[04:53] <superm1> i wonder if that's throwing things off
[04:53] <Shadow__X1> nope
[04:53] <Shadow__X1> and its a fresh install
[04:54] <Shadow__X1> i literally installed windows 7 installed the gpu drivers then went to install ubuntu
[04:54] <superm1> try rebooting into windows once
[04:54] <superm1> i wonder if it's dirty bit
[04:54] <superm1> on ntfs
[04:54] <Shadow__X1> have already done that
[04:54] <Shadow__X1> and i am able to mount the windows partition in ubuntu
[04:54] <Shadow__X1> it comes up under the places menu
[04:55] <Shadow__X1> as 231gb and mounts perfectly
[04:55] <rhpot1991> run checkdisk on it?
[04:55] <Shadow__X1> and i have booted into windows cleanly and shutdown cleanly
[04:55] <Shadow__X1> but i can boot into windows again for the heck of it
[04:56] <mrand> I don't know what to say about the two ntfs partitions...  Write down the sector and/or cylinder numbers and compare against the ones that fdisk gives you in windows
[05:01] <Shadow__X1> mrand: the first partition if for the bootloader
[05:06] <Shadow__X1> doing ckdisk from windows now
[09:56] <mcblack> just for the record
[09:57] <mcblack> my problem with automatic shutdown came from the vdr package i've installed
[09:57] <mcblack> maybe someone remembers, if some other have a problem with this
[09:57] <mcblack> thx @all
[10:05] <Jay2k1> who would install vdr on a myth machine anyway
[10:31] <Fudge> whats vdr
[11:07] <Jay2k1> video disk recorder
[11:07] <Jay2k1> it's a very popular pvr software
[11:07] <Jay2k1> afaik it's focused on turning a pc into a "normal" pvr
[11:08] <Jay2k1> which you would buy in a store
[11:08] <Jay2k1> in other words, just pvr, no media center kind of thing like myth is
[14:12] <Fudge> do u just have to install mythbuntu-frontened and backend to make it work?
[14:42] <mrand> Fudge: What features do you want?
[16:28] <Propel> I finally was able to set MythTV to be able and detect my TV Tuner, but it can't detect any channels
[16:28] <Propel> Well it can detect 1, 97 and 3**, but it's all scrambled and listed as unknown
[16:29] <Propel> I'm trying to setup my analog cable
[17:20] <Propel> !help
[17:20] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[19:16] <piper69> howdy folks
[19:16] <piper69> after i did an update on my system, mythtv crashed
[19:16] <piper69> whenever i start mythtv now , i say "No UPnP backend found"
[19:17] <tgm4883> is the backend started?
[19:17] <piper69> that is when i try to start the Be
[19:18] <tgm4883> really? the backend shouldn't be trying to find a UPnP...
[19:18] <tgm4883> how are you starting the backend?
[19:18] <tgm4883> and what version of mythtv/mythbuntu
[19:18] <piper69> before the update it use to start by it self ,whenever i reboot ...
[19:19] <piper69> and now i go to menu and settings then BE setup
[19:19] <piper69> am running mythbunu how do i know the version
[19:20] <piper69> this is my ubuntu  2.6.31-22-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 27 02:41:03 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:24] <tgm4883> lsb_release -a
[19:24] <piper69> 9.10
[19:25] <tgm4883> dpkg -l mythtv
[19:25] <tgm4883> rather
[19:25] <tgm4883> dpkg -l mythtv-backend
[19:25] <piper69> mythtv-backend 0.22.0+fixes22
[19:27] <piper69> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:27] <tgm4883> is mysql started?
[19:27] <piper69> i didn't check , but it should be i just booted
[19:28] <piper69> how can i check please
[19:28] <tgm4883> service mysql status
[19:28] <tgm4883> it might be mysqld
[19:30] <piper69> can i just do /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[19:30] <tgm4883> sure
[19:31] <piper69> install: cannot change owner and permissions of `/var/run/mysqld': No such file or directory
[19:31] <piper69> mybe i should sudo
[19:32] <piper69> i pm'd u
[19:33] <piper69> * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.
[19:34] <rhpot1991> don't pm stuff, other people may be paying attention to try to help or look for a solution :)
[19:34] <piper69> restart seem to have fixed it
[19:34] <rhpot1991> restarting mysql or the whole box?
[19:35] <piper69> mysql
[19:37] <piper69> its running mythfilldatabase now
[19:38] <piper69> while it is doing this, i have another different issue with mythbuntu
[19:39] <piper69> before the update, and right after i config'd it ...i ve only been using myth for about a month....it will be on the main screen and it freez i can'tdo anything except powerit down
[19:40] <rhpot1991> piper69: did you try to plug a keyboard in and see if you can still control it then
[19:40] <rhpot1991> or vnc in and try that
[19:40] <rhpot1991> eliminate your remote (assuming you are using one)
[19:40] <tgm4883> does it respond to ping
[19:42] <piper69> rhpot1991: hahahha "Remote" i have been trying to get my remote to work for a whole month since i start mythtv project i couldn't get it to work ...so i wam using a keyboard
[19:42] <piper69> my card is hauppage hvr-1600
[19:42] <piper69> i tried lirc from pkg to compiling it from source
[19:43] <piper69> can not get it to work right
[19:44] <rhpot1991> see if you can ping it, or use ctrl+alt+F<pick a number> and see if you can get it to switch to a console
[19:45] <piper69> tried that too
[19:46] <piper69> now i will reboot to see it mysql will start
[20:01] <Shadow__X> hey superm1 are you around i am using the broadcom sta driver in ubuntu 10.04 and at times it will hit n speeds and others it will barely do g speeds
[20:02] <tgm4883> Shadow__X, that doesn't seem like a mythtv question
[20:03] <Shadow__X> due to that instability i cant stream mythtv
[20:03] <tgm4883> there you go
[20:03] <Shadow__X> bam now its mythtv related
[20:03] <superm1> haha
[20:03] <superm1> well the best you can do is mail broadcom
[20:04] <superm1> i mean i dont think there are many knobs on the driver  to tweak
[20:04] <Shadow__X> and tell them to get to their act together?
[20:04] <Shadow__X> i just dont understand while testing a file transfer it will get from 7.9MB/sec down to 800KB/sec
[20:04] <Shadow__X> all within secounds
[20:14] <mrand> mail broadcom?  ha!  good luck with that.  I have multiple direct FAE contacts and I can't even get my questions answered.
[20:14] <mrand> snail mail, maybe.  To the CEO.
[20:18] <superm1> mrand, if anyone though, they're  the most likely to be able to help, i mean they do have the source
[20:19] <mrand> I guess I can't disagree with that statement.
[20:19] <mrand> And the people supporting that are not the same people supporting me.
[20:19] <mrand> Might as well try... don't have anything to lose!
[20:44] <rhpot1991> buy a new card
[20:44] <rhpot1991> replace your motherboard, the rhpot1991 solution!
[20:52] <superm1> the rhpot1991 solution is to complain to the manufacturer that it's a hardware problem i thought (even though ti might be sftware) ;)
[20:52] <rhpot1991> superm1: I'm pretty sure it was hardware most of the time
[20:52] <rhpot1991> and even was the motherboard a few times
[20:53] <superm1> yeah sure sure
[20:54] <rhpot1991> superm1: I'll make sure I tell you my router is broken come sunday
[20:55] <superm1> rhpot1991, you mean when you have a hard time flashing openwrt?  must be routers fault.
[20:55] <superm1> lol
[20:55] <rhpot1991> heh yep
[22:25] <piper69> got my mythbuntu fixed yayayyyy
[22:25] <piper69> thank you all
[22:38] <Ratok> hello everyone, I am getting an error connected to a database error
[22:46] <Ratok> my .mythtv/config.xml is empty after a restart which was caused by a backend hangup
[22:46] <piper69> is your mysql running
[22:47] <piper69> [R] you think 775 will be a good permission for videos please
[23:04] <Ratok> i think the hangup filled my first hdd
[23:04] <Ratok> hence no disk space was available
[23:06] <piper69> btw anyone here?
[23:06] <piper69> i see all these people here but barely someone answers
[23:09] <rhpot1991> Ratok: I'd venture the other way around, you filled the HD and then the db shut down
[23:10] <rhpot1991> !ask piper69
[23:10] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about ask piper69
[23:10] <rhpot1991> !ask | piper69
[23:10] <Zinn> piper69: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[23:11] <piper69> for the past week i have been here asking question and no one replies to me
[23:11] <rhpot1991> !forums | piper69
[23:11] <Zinn> piper69: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[23:12] <rhpot1991> depends on the question and who is paying attention
[23:12] <piper69> its okay the folks over mythtv-users are doing a perfect job supporting me ;)
[23:13] <rhpot1991> piper69: thats the best place to go for general mythtv questions if you aren't getting help here
[23:13] <rhpot1991> they like to send you over here if its something mythbuntu specific
[23:14] <piper69> thanks for the tip thu, i already did! ;)
[23:15] <piper69> ok
[23:16] <piper69> so can someone here please help me with themoviedb.org perl script i am getting this error "2010-06-11 14:56:22.698 Unable to contact themoviedb.org while retrieving movie list, stopped at /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/tmdb.pl line 329.
[23:16] <Zinn> [themoviedb.org] TMDb — The open movie database
[23:16] <piper69> TMDB API
[23:27] <mrand> piper69: do you have reason to believe the error message is incorrect (that it is having network type trouble contacting TMDB)?
[23:30] <piper69> mrand: i am not sure what you are asking
[23:30] <piper69> i am able to browse the internet fine
[23:32] <piper69> is there is some kind of settings i need to setup in FE or BE
[23:36] <mrand> no, there shouldn't be.  I guess you're saying that you can  browse tmdb just fine?
[23:38] <piper69> yes
[23:39] <piper69> does it grab it from from the title or the filename
[23:41] <mrand> it converts the filename into a query string
[23:41] <mrand> from the looks of the script.
[23:44] <piper69> so what is the problem that i can't get any movie db
[23:44] <Fudge> mrand  sry i went to bed before seeing ur msg
[23:50] <mrand> piper69: I don't know what to say beyond what the message says.  You can ask in #Mythtv-users, but I don't know that I'd hope for a much different answer.
[23:50] <piper69> how do i know my current mythbuntu relase n how to upgrade it
[23:51] <mrand> piper69: lots of ways.... synaptic is one.
[23:51] <mrand> apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend is another.