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IdleOnedinner00:09
Picibleh00:10
funkyHatIs calling people out on the CoC really ok, considering they may not have even read it, let alone signed it?01:55
* funkyHat gently pokes IdleOne 01:56
bazhangwell, its Spacey01:56
funkyHatof course I may not be in posession of all the facts in this case01:56
bazhangnot many facts in that debate01:57
IdleOnefunkyHat: sup dude ?01:58
IdleOnenot signing the CoC does not mean that they don't have to abide by the channel rules01:58
bazhangtriple negative!01:59
IdleOne-ot is different I get that but the channel can be different and still follow the rules01:59
funkyHatIdleOne: the channel rules sure02:00
tsimpsonobeying the CoC noted in the guidelines02:00
funkyHatOh drat!02:00
IdleOnefunkyHat: the CoC is a way of thinking, not a set of rules. They clearly state that respectfulness is a must at ALL times02:00
IdleOnes/they/it02:01
IdleOneI know I am being a little bit of a pain about this but -ot can be so much of a better place02:01
tsimpson-ot *is* far too lax02:02
IdleOne-ot in my mind is supposed to be a place where people can join and discuss a variety of topics intelligently. I think we can do that without the name calling and chasing out every person who comes in with a different point of view02:03
IdleOnefunkyHat: btw I love spacey too. I consider him a friend but I can't let my friends slide. wrong is wrong and I will call it out every time I see it02:06
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up (this is a test, and might not detect a full banlist correctly, please report problems to LjL): 452)02:52
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up (this is a test, and might not detect a full banlist correctly, please report problems to LjL): 451)04:02
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up (this is a test, and might not detect a full banlist correctly, please report problems to LjL): 451)06:12
ubottuIn ubottu, Guest59509 said: your name is interesting06:55
bazhangheads up on jungli07:39
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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up (this is a test, and might not detect a full banlist correctly, please report problems to LjL): 451)09:04
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist filling up (this is a test, and might not detect a full banlist correctly, please report problems to LjL): 451)10:39
bazhangis it /mode #channel +e to see the exemptions?11:15
ikoniaI believe so, I've just removed a good few of my bans, for some reason ubottu is not updating BT with all the ones I removed though11:16
bazhangor simply /mode11:16
bazhangwhoops11:16
bazhang /mode #channel e11:16
bazhangI'll clear the exemptions if someone can confirm either of the above (not all , obviously, just the older ones)11:36
topylii muted alabd on -ot, will think about him again tomorrow. if i forget, feel free to remove the +q11:48
topylinot that his contribution will be missed11:48
ikoniato be honest, I think we have to be very careful if he is writing a book11:54
ikoniahe's using random peoples opinions as fact in a book (assuming he's telling the truth))11:54
bazhangtsimpson, you around?12:06
ikonia12:11 -!- poprazi [jungli@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-chtfoedqoucysnit] has left #ubuntu []12:12
ikoniasame guy again12:12
bazhangyep. but not trolled of late12:13
ikoniawhat's the format for the indent ban in the new irc-server12:13
ikoniais it still i=ident!nick!@host12:13
bazhangI had a lengthy PM with him, and he knows any more of the 'ubuntards' or 'how to fix my redhat' will not be acceptable12:13
ikoniayet he's just come in and said fuck suse12:14
bazhangwhoa missed that12:14
ikonianeed to work out the ident ban12:14
bazhangnice catch, missed that12:14
bazhang what about *!*@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-chtfoedqoucysnit12:15
ikoniacould someone confirm the correct format for ident specific ban for ircd-712:15
ikoniabazhang: I thought that would be fine, however I learnt the other day that bzhellz last part isn't unique to the user12:15
ikoniaonly the ident is12:16
bazhangjust caught that from ##linux12:16
ikoniahowever he's not only the only problem user from bshellz, I think it's time we looked at banning the same way as the freenode gateway12:16
ikoniaI may put it on the agenda for the next council meeting12:16
bazhangikonia, not sure then, thought gateway users were getting a cloak , according to freenode wallop12:16
bazhangthough perhaps a different issue entirely, never mind me12:17
ikoniaI've not read the new stuff on the freenode webchat yet, I just meant in theory12:17
bazhangikonia, jayne is active now12:34
ikoniajayne: can you confirm the correct format for an ident ban please ?12:34
jaynelike /mode ##channel +b *!*ident@* you mean?12:35
ikoniano as in ident@12:35
ikoniaeg: nick = ikonia, ident = mattd, host = unafilliated/ikonia12:36
ikoniaso I'd want to ban ikonia i=mattd@unafilliated/ikonia12:36
ikoniaI want the mattd part12:36
jaynewant it from what?12:36
jayneif you want to ban anyone using the ident of mattd, then *!*mattd@*12:37
ikoniashould it not be *!mattd@* or is *!*mattd@* right ?12:37
jayneif you know identd is in use (unlike yourself, for example), then you can drop the *12:38
jaynefor example, I have an ident running, so there's no ~12:38
ikoniathat's simpler than I remember it, thank you jayne12:38
ikoniaperfect12:38
jayneyou don't have an identd running, so you get ~mattd instead12:38
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jayneyeah, we got rid of the i=/n= thing when we left hyperion12:38
jpdsDo people still use identds?12:39
jaynejpds: sometimes. I mostly consider it useful for cloaked gateways12:39
jayneand shell providers that we know about12:39
jayne... basically any time we know the users can't fake the ident12:39
jpdsOh, yeah.12:40
ikoniaodd, a user called text just pm'd me to tell me he saw my real name when he whois'd me and did I know it was showing my name12:40
ikoniaand was I "ok" with that12:41
jpdsikonia: Everyone is anonymous on the Internest.12:50
tsimpsonbazhang: I am now12:52
bazhangtsimpson, hi13:00
tsimpsonhi13:01
bazhangjust wanted confirmation on removing exemptions; should be /mode #channel e to see them?13:01
tsimpsonyes, but you need to be +o to see them13:01
bazhangthen /mode #channel -eeee to remove them13:01
bazhangokay thanks tsimpson13:01
tsimpsonyeah13:01
tsimpsonone 'e' for every exempt up to 4 per line13:02
bazhangjust getting the -ops-monitor warnings of late, wanted to see if that would reduce or eliminate them13:02
bazhangokay13:02
tsimpsonI cleared out the +e list a day or two ago, didn't make much difference13:02
bazhangoh right13:03
bazhangwell nice to have the knowledge nonetheless (will note down this conversation)13:03
tsimpsonit should probably go in the operator guide document too13:03
bazhanggood point13:04
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popey!login13:38
ubottuuse @login13:38
popeybah13:38
popeyi am such a numpty13:38
popey@login13:38
ubottuThe operation succeeded.13:38
popey@btlogin13:38
* jussi hugs popey13:39
popeygot a fool in -uk being a bit of a troll, wondered if he was known13:39
popeyRussnix13:39
jussipopey: yeah, i noticed. I havent seen him before13:42
popeyme neither13:42
jussipopey: you know you can do @bansearch russnix13:42
popeyhandy13:42
popeythanks13:42
jussivery :)13:42
jussiyw13:43
popeyi get no results searching via the web interface for his nick, but @bansearch russnix returns two results. odd?13:44
popeyor am I 'doing it wrong'13:44
jussino13:45
jussibecause @bansearch uses ip13:45
jussioh wait13:46
jussino13:46
jussiits because he is using the gateway thats been banforwarded to proxy users13:46
jussinothing to worry about - if you logged in using web chat it would be same13:47
popeyno, i'm not worrying about that, more the discrepancy between bansearch showing stuff and the website not13:50
jussipopey: yeah, its simple, just like I can switch nick and still be on the same host. @bansearch searches the host, not the nick13:53
jussiit looks at the user, pulls their host and searches that13:53
h00k!ping14:43
ubottupong14:43
h00kokay.14:43
h00kWhy is autobleh telling me Fooey, Not Opped. I haven't done anything in a while :(15:35
gnomefreakh00k: the new servers?15:37
gnomefreaki havent tried it in a while15:37
h00kgnomefreak: the new servers?15:44
gnomefreakh00k: sorry dont remember but it was a while ago15:44
gnomefreaka couple of months but they just updated webchat maybe that is the issue15:45
h00kI think I figured it out, I had accidentally done /opme on an ircd server running from localhost and didn't have permissions15:45
h00kand autobleh still rememberd I wanted to op and was echoing that in channels I am in15:45
h00kI think since I've opped, it has since forgotten.15:45
PiciYou could try unloading and reloading it?15:46
h00kI think I'm set, I saw:15:46
h00k09:44 We've been opped15:46
h00k09:44 Expiring action: "I've wanted to op h00k in #arg on  since 1276139239" because of time15:46
h00kbut it says expiring so I am guessing it is forgetting15:46
h00kthere, I unloaded and reloaded.15:50
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RudyValenciaHi, I was having an intermittent connection earlier, and it has now stabilized. Please allow me back into #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server.20:26
PiciRudyValencia: sure, one moment.20:26
RudyValenciaThanks.20:26
PiciRudyValencia: You're all set. :)20:26
RudyValenciaThanks.20:27
h00k!bestbot could alias with !best20:33
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:33
Pici!bestbot20:33
Pici!best20:33
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.20:33
Pici!-best20:33
ubottubest aliases: good, better, preference, polls, opinion, poll, favorite, favourite - added by LjL on 2006-07-21 01:18:13 - last edited by LjL on 2008-04-03 17:11:4420:33
Pici!bestbot is <alias> best20:34
ubottuI'll remember that, Pici20:34
Picih00k: ding!20:34
h00k!bestbot20:34
h00kta-da! Pici, you rock.20:34
ubottuIn ubottu, shadeslayer said: !ebook is FBReader is a ebook reader which supports several open e-book formats: fb2, html, chm, plucker,20:46
ubottuIn ubottu, shadeslayer said: !ebook is FBReader is a ebook reader which supports several open e-book formats: fb2, html, chm, plucker,palmdoc, ztxt, tcr (psion text), rtf, oeb, openreader, non-DRM'ed  mobipocket, plain text, epub. To install type << sudo apt-get install fbreader >>20:46
h00k!dma21:27
ubottudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:28
h00kin 6.06 ?!21:28
guntberthi, !dma seems to need an update :-)21:28
Tm_Thow?21:29
h00kguntbert: you /just/ missed my comment about it :)21:29
Tm_Twhat would be the new info?21:30
guntberth00k: ah, I should have known you would spot it  - thx for the support just now in #ubuntu21:30
guntbert!dma21:30
ubottudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:30
h00k'enabled in 6.06' fantastic, but what about the latter?21:31
guntberthave a nice time with it :-) -- bye21:32
h00k!dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.21:32
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, h00k said: !dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.21:32
h00kfor more info, etc, etc.21:32
h00k!dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:32
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, h00k said: !dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:32
h00kthere we go.21:32
bazhangshould be !dma is <reply> etc etc ;21:44
knome!dma is <reply> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:45
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, knome said: !dma is <reply> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:45
h00kyeah. that.21:45
knomebazhang, there you go21:45
bazhang!dma is <reply> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:45
ubottuBut dma already means something else!21:45
bazhangwhoops21:46
knome!dma21:46
ubottudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA21:46
knomehar :)21:46
bazhangany changes needed?21:46
h00kis running as root supported? I know changing the root password is not22:02
bazhanglike !noroot? !rootirc ?22:02
h00kno, like, someone in #ubuntu running as root user, apparently22:03
bazhangshould use sudo -i afaik22:04

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