[00:09] <IdleOne> dinner
[00:10] <Pici> bleh
[01:55] <funkyHat> Is calling people out on the CoC really ok, considering they may not have even read it, let alone signed it?
[01:56]  * funkyHat gently pokes IdleOne 
[01:56] <bazhang> well, its Spacey
[01:56] <funkyHat> of course I may not be in posession of all the facts in this case
[01:57] <bazhang> not many facts in that debate
[01:58] <IdleOne> funkyHat: sup dude ?
[01:58] <IdleOne> not signing the CoC does not mean that they don't have to abide by the channel rules
[01:59] <bazhang> triple negative!
[01:59] <IdleOne> -ot is different I get that but the channel can be different and still follow the rules
[02:00] <funkyHat> IdleOne: the channel rules sure
[02:00] <tsimpson> obeying the CoC noted in the guidelines
[02:00] <funkyHat> Oh drat!
[02:00] <IdleOne> funkyHat: the CoC is a way of thinking, not a set of rules. They clearly state that respectfulness is a must at ALL times
[02:01] <IdleOne> s/they/it
[02:01] <IdleOne> I know I am being a little bit of a pain about this but -ot can be so much of a better place
[02:02] <tsimpson> -ot *is* far too lax
[02:03] <IdleOne> -ot in my mind is supposed to be a place where people can join and discuss a variety of topics intelligently. I think we can do that without the name calling and chasing out every person who comes in with a different point of view
[02:06] <IdleOne> funkyHat: btw I love spacey too. I consider him a friend but I can't let my friends slide. wrong is wrong and I will call it out every time I see it
[07:39] <bazhang> heads up on jungli
[11:15] <bazhang> is it /mode #channel +e to see the exemptions?
[11:16] <ikonia> I believe so, I've just removed a good few of my bans, for some reason ubottu is not updating BT with all the ones I removed though
[11:16] <bazhang> or simply /mode
[11:16] <bazhang> whoops
[11:16] <bazhang>  /mode #channel e
[11:36] <bazhang> I'll clear the exemptions if someone can confirm either of the above (not all , obviously, just the older ones)
[11:48] <topyli> i muted alabd on -ot, will think about him again tomorrow. if i forget, feel free to remove the +q
[11:48] <topyli> not that his contribution will be missed
[11:54] <ikonia> to be honest, I think we have to be very careful if he is writing a book
[11:54] <ikonia> he's using random peoples opinions as fact in a book (assuming he's telling the truth))
[12:06] <bazhang> tsimpson, you around?
[12:12] <ikonia> 12:11 -!- poprazi [jungli@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-chtfoedqoucysnit] has left #ubuntu []
[12:12] <ikonia> same guy again
[12:13] <bazhang> yep. but not trolled of late
[12:13] <ikonia> what's the format for the indent ban in the new irc-server
[12:13] <ikonia> is it still i=ident!nick!@host
[12:13] <bazhang> I had a lengthy PM with him, and he knows any more of the 'ubuntards' or 'how to fix my redhat' will not be acceptable
[12:14] <ikonia> yet he's just come in and said fuck suse
[12:14] <bazhang> whoa missed that
[12:14] <ikonia> need to work out the ident ban
[12:14] <bazhang> nice catch, missed that
[12:15] <bazhang>  what about *!*@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-chtfoedqoucysnit
[12:15] <ikonia> could someone confirm the correct format for ident specific ban for ircd-7
[12:15] <ikonia> bazhang: I thought that would be fine, however I learnt the other day that bzhellz last part isn't unique to the user
[12:16] <ikonia> only the ident is
[12:16] <bazhang> just caught that from ##linux
[12:16] <ikonia> however he's not only the only problem user from bshellz, I think it's time we looked at banning the same way as the freenode gateway
[12:16] <ikonia> I may put it on the agenda for the next council meeting
[12:16] <bazhang> ikonia, not sure then, thought gateway users were getting a cloak , according to freenode wallop
[12:17] <bazhang> though perhaps a different issue entirely, never mind me
[12:17] <ikonia> I've not read the new stuff on the freenode webchat yet, I just meant in theory
[12:34] <bazhang> ikonia, jayne is active now
[12:34] <ikonia> jayne: can you confirm the correct format for an ident ban please ?
[12:35] <jayne> like /mode ##channel +b *!*ident@* you mean?
[12:35] <ikonia> no as in ident@
[12:36] <ikonia> eg: nick = ikonia, ident = mattd, host = unafilliated/ikonia
[12:36] <ikonia> so I'd want to ban ikonia i=mattd@unafilliated/ikonia
[12:36] <ikonia> I want the mattd part
[12:36] <jayne> want it from what?
[12:37] <jayne> if you want to ban anyone using the ident of mattd, then *!*mattd@*
[12:37] <ikonia> should it not be *!mattd@* or is *!*mattd@* right ?
[12:38] <jayne> if you know identd is in use (unlike yourself, for example), then you can drop the *
[12:38] <jayne> for example, I have an ident running, so there's no ~
[12:38] <ikonia> that's simpler than I remember it, thank you jayne
[12:38] <ikonia> perfect
[12:38] <jayne> you don't have an identd running, so you get ~mattd instead
[12:38] <jayne> yeah, we got rid of the i=/n= thing when we left hyperion
[12:39] <jpds> Do people still use identds?
[12:39] <jayne> jpds: sometimes. I mostly consider it useful for cloaked gateways
[12:39] <jayne> and shell providers that we know about
[12:39] <jayne> ... basically any time we know the users can't fake the ident
[12:40] <jpds> Oh, yeah.
[12:40] <ikonia> odd, a user called text just pm'd me to tell me he saw my real name when he whois'd me and did I know it was showing my name
[12:41] <ikonia> and was I "ok" with that
[12:50] <jpds> ikonia: Everyone is anonymous on the Internest.
[12:52] <tsimpson> bazhang: I am now
[13:00] <bazhang> tsimpson, hi
[13:01] <tsimpson> hi
[13:01] <bazhang> just wanted confirmation on removing exemptions; should be /mode #channel e to see them?
[13:01] <tsimpson> yes, but you need to be +o to see them
[13:01] <bazhang> then /mode #channel -eeee to remove them
[13:01] <bazhang> okay thanks tsimpson
[13:01] <tsimpson> yeah
[13:02] <tsimpson> one 'e' for every exempt up to 4 per line
[13:02] <bazhang> just getting the -ops-monitor warnings of late, wanted to see if that would reduce or eliminate them
[13:02] <bazhang> okay
[13:02] <tsimpson> I cleared out the +e list a day or two ago, didn't make much difference
[13:03] <bazhang> oh right
[13:03] <bazhang> well nice to have the knowledge nonetheless (will note down this conversation)
[13:03] <tsimpson> it should probably go in the operator guide document too
[13:04] <bazhang> good point
[13:38] <popey> !login
[13:38] <popey> bah
[13:38] <popey> i am such a numpty
[13:38] <popey> @login
[13:38] <popey> @btlogin
[13:39]  * jussi hugs popey
[13:39] <popey> got a fool in -uk being a bit of a troll, wondered if he was known
[13:39] <popey> Russnix
[13:42] <jussi> popey: yeah, i noticed. I havent seen him before
[13:42] <popey> me neither
[13:42] <jussi> popey: you know you can do @bansearch russnix
[13:42] <popey> handy
[13:42] <popey> thanks
[13:42] <jussi> very :)
[13:43] <jussi> yw
[13:44] <popey> i get no results searching via the web interface for his nick, but @bansearch russnix returns two results. odd?
[13:44] <popey> or am I 'doing it wrong'
[13:45] <jussi> no
[13:45] <jussi> because @bansearch uses ip
[13:46] <jussi> oh wait
[13:46] <jussi> no
[13:46] <jussi> its because he is using the gateway thats been banforwarded to proxy users
[13:47] <jussi> nothing to worry about - if you logged in using web chat it would be same
[13:50] <popey> no, i'm not worrying about that, more the discrepancy between bansearch showing stuff and the website not
[13:53] <jussi> popey: yeah, its simple, just like I can switch nick and still be on the same host. @bansearch searches the host, not the nick
[13:53] <jussi> it looks at the user, pulls their host and searches that
[14:43] <h00k> !ping
[14:43] <h00k> okay.
[15:35] <h00k> Why is autobleh telling me Fooey, Not Opped. I haven't done anything in a while :(
[15:37] <gnomefreak> h00k: the new servers?
[15:37] <gnomefreak> i havent tried it in a while
[15:44] <h00k> gnomefreak: the new servers?
[15:44] <gnomefreak> h00k: sorry dont remember but it was a while ago
[15:45] <gnomefreak> a couple of months but they just updated webchat maybe that is the issue
[15:45] <h00k> I think I figured it out, I had accidentally done /opme on an ircd server running from localhost and didn't have permissions
[15:45] <h00k> and autobleh still rememberd I wanted to op and was echoing that in channels I am in
[15:45] <h00k> I think since I've opped, it has since forgotten.
[15:46] <Pici> You could try unloading and reloading it?
[15:46] <h00k> I think I'm set, I saw:
[15:46] <h00k> 09:44 We've been opped
[15:46] <h00k> 09:44 Expiring action: "I've wanted to op h00k in #arg on  since 1276139239" because of time
[15:46] <h00k> but it says expiring so I am guessing it is forgetting
[15:50] <h00k> there, I unloaded and reloaded.
[20:26] <RudyValencia> Hi, I was having an intermittent connection earlier, and it has now stabilized. Please allow me back into #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server.
[20:26] <Pici> RudyValencia: sure, one moment.
[20:26] <RudyValencia> Thanks.
[20:26] <Pici> RudyValencia: You're all set. :)
[20:27] <RudyValencia> Thanks.
[20:33] <h00k> !bestbot could alias with !best
[20:33] <Pici> !bestbot
[20:33] <Pici> !best
[20:33] <Pici> !-best
[20:34] <Pici> !bestbot is <alias> best
[20:34] <Pici> h00k: ding!
[20:34] <h00k> !bestbot
[20:34] <h00k> ta-da! Pici, you rock.
[21:27] <h00k> !dma
[21:28] <h00k> in 6.06 ?!
[21:28] <guntbert> hi, !dma seems to need an update :-)
[21:29] <Tm_T> how?
[21:29] <h00k> guntbert: you /just/ missed my comment about it :)
[21:30] <Tm_T> what would be the new info?
[21:30] <guntbert> h00k: ah, I should have known you would spot it  - thx for the support just now in #ubuntu
[21:30] <guntbert> !dma
[21:31] <h00k> 'enabled in 6.06' fantastic, but what about the latter?
[21:32] <guntbert> have a nice time with it :-) -- bye
[21:32] <h00k> !dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.
[21:32] <h00k> for more info, etc, etc.
[21:32] <h00k> !dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[21:32] <h00k> there we go.
[21:44] <bazhang> should be !dma is <reply> etc etc ;
[21:45] <knome> !dma is <reply> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[21:45] <h00k> yeah. that.
[21:45] <knome> bazhang, there you go
[21:45] <bazhang> !dma is <reply> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is supported by most systems since 2002.  For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[21:46] <bazhang> whoops
[21:46] <knome> !dma
[21:46] <knome> har :)
[21:46] <bazhang> any changes needed?
[22:02] <h00k> is running as root supported? I know changing the root password is not
[22:02] <bazhang> like !noroot? !rootirc ?
[22:03] <h00k> no, like, someone in #ubuntu running as root user, apparently
[22:04] <bazhang> should use sudo -i afaik