[00:11] <JackTO> anyone know what this means in the debug log: Resume from disk failed.
[00:12] <JackTO> exact line is:    Jun 10 18:48:13 cs1 kernel: [    1.988767] PM: Resume from disk failed.
[00:12] <JackTO> this is on system bootup
[00:23] <godzirra> Can anyone take a look at this and tell me why I'm getting "Not enough resources" when I try and start my instance?  The paste is at http://pastebin.com/6quhxphh
[00:25] <godzirra> Hrm.
[00:25] <godzirra> i'm lagging out I think.
[00:26] <godzirra> Can anyone take a look at this and tell me why I'm getting "Not enough resources" when I try and start my instance?  The paste is at http://pastebin.com/6quhxphh
[00:44] <Undeon> Hey guys.. I'm almost finishing my squid... The client can ping anysite, but I can't connect using name or IP...
[00:47] <godzirra> What should "virsh list" show on my node controller?
[00:49] <Undeon> Hey guys.. I'm almost finishing my squid... The client can ping anysite, but I can't connect using name or IP...
[01:04] <godzirra> Can anyone take a look at this and tell me why I'm getting "Not enough resources" when I try and start my instance?  The paste is at http://pastebin.com/6quhxphh
[01:10] <corpse> does anyone run xbmc in server, or recommend a good command line media server?
[01:14] <AndChat|> Is there a floppy image I could use to try and boot an ubuntu cd on my server?
[01:14] <AndChat|> For some reason my cd rom won't even try and read the ubuntu cd
[01:17] <AndChat|> This is really driving me nuts.
[01:22] <holmser> Anyone in here?
[01:26] <godzirra> Can anyone take a look at this and tell me why I'm getting "Not enough resources" when I try and start my instance?  The paste is at http://pastebin.com/6quhxphh
[01:30] <AndChat|> I got booted, did anyone have any input on the boot disk?
[01:38] <corpse> If i have a download going in a SSH connection, how can i get a new command line without stoping the download?
[01:38] <godzirra> AndChat|: No one has said anything.
[01:38] <godzirra> corpse: SSH in again? :p
[01:38] <corpse> =P
[01:38] <corpse> thought there would be a more convient way
[01:42] <pmatulis> corpse: you can interrupt the download and then put it in the background
[01:43] <corpse> pmatulis: yeah i suppose that would work as well. Thank you
[02:04] <godzirra> corpse: I run screen.
[02:04] <godzirra> corpse: Screen lets you open up additional ... well.. screens.
[02:05] <godzirra> So I ssh back into a box, just run "screen -x" and it reconnects my screen.
[02:05] <godzirra> I've got irssi on 2 servers, a bot running in the background, a few edit windows, etc.
[02:05] <godzirra> Can anyone take a look at this and tell me why I'm getting "Not enough resources" when I try and start my instance?  The paste is at http://pastebin.com/6quhxphh
[02:53] <jturek> greetings all
[02:54] <jturek> quick question,  I have a VirtualBox Guest with Lernid, Virtualboxt host is Karmic.  Headless setup, where I remote into the guest via ssh only -  I am finding there is lag in my Lucid, that i don't see in my karmic guest, same settings default install
[02:54] <holmser_> anyone have experience with pxe installs?
[02:54] <jturek> Was wondering if anybody had suggestions of places to look to figure out where this "lag" is coming from.  CPU looks ok with htop
[02:55] <jturek> its a notible delay as  i type into the session that i don't see with karmic doing same app/function
[02:56] <twb> !anyone
[02:56] <jturek> thanks twb lo
[02:57] <twb> jturek: that was for holmser_.
[02:57] <jturek> twb: oh ok!  i said "anybody" too i guess haha
[02:58] <twb> jturek: pastebin the output of "ps auxf" within the guest.
[03:05] <twb> Does Ubuntu have an HCL somewhere?
[03:06] <jturek> twb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/448045/  for the lag issue
[03:06] <twb> jturek: that all looks fine.
[03:07] <jturek> twb: not much runnong on the box :)
[03:09] <twb> I would next look at the host OS, e.g. if the niceness or ioniceness is different for one host to the other.
[03:10] <twb> Re. HCL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:12] <jturek> twb: i'll check, but same host for both karmic and lucid guest :)
[03:20] <godzirra> how do I get mykey.priv to copy to my image before starting it?
[03:24] <twb> godzirra: what is a mykey.priv?
[03:25] <godzirra> twb: in this doc, it says to create a keypair and use it to start your VM.  mykey.priv is the file it says to write it to, but mine says "mykey already exists"
[03:26] <godzirra> and I'm not sure how to get the correct version
[03:26] <godzirra> http://open.eucalyptus.com/wiki/EucalyptusGettingStarted_v1.5.2 is the url I'm reading from
[03:53] <rgotten> how hard or easy is to use a webserver
[03:55] <bc> rgotten: nginx should be easy to set up. Apache, not too much more difficult.
[03:57] <rgotten> bc: i know i have php, apache and other stuff installed, but from here to place and make my we  up and running?
[03:58] <bc> rgotten: service apache start, then open localhost in your browser
[03:58] <bc> rgotten: sorry, make that apache2, probably
[04:02] <rgotten> bc: i use webmin to manage the ubuntu server ( i know people dont like it) but is easy for me to manage the server...i cansee ther i have apache installed and i see i have a default server and a virtual sever..which i have to use
[04:03] <bc> rgotten: I have no experience with webmin. I've never used it.
[04:04] <bc> rgotten: by default I believe apache binds to 0.0.0.0:80, which will probably just work if you start it up.
[04:04] <rgotten> ok but if i use he terminal..any easy how to?
[04:04] <bc> rgotten: in terminal, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:07] <rgotten> bc: it says already running
[04:08] <bc> rgotten: surf to the IP of the web server and you should see an apache page.
[04:09] <rgotten> bc...you mean the ip of the computer..like 192.168.1.11
[04:09] <bc> rgotten: yes sir
[04:10] <rgotten> what about to be seen by people outside of my network..i mean with my static ip
[04:10] <rgotten> by the internet
[04:10] <bc> rgotten: if your webserver is 192.168.1.11, and it is behind a router, then you may have to forward port 80 to 192.168.1.11 from the router.
[04:11] <bc> rgotten: if your provider blocks 80, then you will have to use another port, like 8000. E.g. http://192.168.1.11:8000
[04:13] <rgotten> bc: can this expose my server to hackers or this is pretty safe
[04:14] <bc> rgotten: that entirely depends on what you host with Apache.
[04:15] <bc> rgotten: if you host just .html files.. pretty safe. close to fort knox safe, at least if you keep up with apt updates.
[04:15] <CppIsWeird> i just tried to install ubuntu-server on a computer using a usb flash drive. i downloaded the normal ubuntu-server iso and put it on the pen drive with unetboot. the installation stops because it cant find the ubuntu cd in the cdrom.
[04:15] <bc> rgotten: if you host something like wordpress or phpbb or phpgallery, you have to watch it like a hawk.
[04:16] <rgotten> bc: on hich folders of ubuntu shuld i download the folders of the website to be safe?
[04:16] <bc> rgotten: I don't understand
[04:16] <panfist> is there any sort of backup ability included in ubuntu server?
[04:17] <bc> panfist: there's a couple options listed on help.ubuntu.com
[04:17] <bc> rgotten: grep -R DocumentRoot /etc/apache2
[04:17] <rgotten> bc: well i am new..so sorry if i sound dum....i am using a software call webplus x2...thia will upload the folder to the web server..i gues i havere to find a place were to uploaded?
[04:18] <bc> rgotten: the grep above should show the location of the web directory
[04:19] <panfist> there seems to be a lot of specific documentation available for the last LTS but not lucid yet, or am i not looking in the right palce?
[04:20] <bhavamitra> hello, at ubuntu 10.04 server install, i've created two lvm volumes encrypted and one not encrypted. the not encrypted one i could successfully set it to mount at /boot, but the encrypted ones i couldn't as it just flashed the screen and kept on the same menu portion. anything wrong?
[04:21] <bc> panfist: most of the tools exist in all of them
[04:22] <bhavamitra> hello, at ubuntu 10.04 server install, i've created two lvm volumes encrypted and one not encrypted. the not encrypted one i could successfully set it to mount at /boot, but the encrypted ones i couldn't as it just flashed the screen and kept on the same menu after activation. anything wrong?
[04:24] <bc> panfist: I use rsnapshot. It has no pretty GUI, but the hard linking and ease of getting at the files was a winner to me. I've been using it for years and years.
[04:25] <bc> panfist: single config file
[04:29] <bc> panfist: to illustrate the hard linking benefit, currently my backups are 514G, and that's a couple of high traffic web servers combined.
[04:48] <mathiaz> hallyn: re https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/maverick/qemu-kvm/update-to-12.4/+merge/27293
[04:49] <mathiaz> hallyn: almost - I've requested a review from the ubuntu-sponsors team
[04:49] <mathiaz> hallyn: which is the way to ask for sponsorship
[04:51] <mathiaz> SpamapS: (late) pong
[04:52] <holmser_> I am really confused right now... I just installed ubuntu 10.04 on my server, but it still rebooted to windows server 2003
[04:53] <holmser_> I don't know how the hell to get it off my server.
[04:53] <holmser_> I just want to erase the damn thing and start from scratch
[04:55] <e_t_> holmser_: when you installed Ubuntu, did you select the option for 'use entire disk' (or similar)? That is what will wipe out WS2003.
[04:55] <holmser_> yeah... I did.
[04:56] <holmser_> I selected "guided, use entire disk"
[04:56] <holmser_> and when it installed grub it said that ubuntu was the only operating system
[04:56] <twb> holmser_: boot a live image and write zeroes to the entire disk, then confirm that you have no other disks or ROMs on the system.
[04:56] <holmser_> is there that option on a pxe boot?
[04:57] <twb> Sure, just go to a shell and use dd
[04:59] <holmser_> whats the dd command to zero the disk?
[04:59] <e_t_> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[04:59] <twb> dd if=/dev/zero of=<whatever the disk is>
[04:59] <holmser_> thanks
[04:59] <twb> e_t_: it won't be /dev/sda in d-i, it'll be something horrid like /dev/discs/scsi/lun/0/0/1/part/0
[05:00] <twb> It should be listed in /proc/partitions
[05:00] <e_t_> Only if he's go a SAN.
[05:00] <twb> e_t_: er, no, for SATA, too.
[05:01] <twb> At least, that's my experience
[05:01] <e_t_> My laptop's SATA drive is /dev/sda.
[05:01] <twb> e_t_: *in d-i*?
[05:02] <e_t_> I don't know what that means.
[05:02] <twb> Which is rather my point.
[05:02] <e_t_> Care to educate me?
[05:03] <twb> holmser_: "cat /proc/partitions", which should list every disk and partition the kernel can see.  The largest one is likely your largest drive.  Have dd target that.
[05:03] <twb> e_t_: d-i is the debian-installer, a kernel and ramdisk used for all installs of Ubuntu other than the desktop CD.
[05:07] <mopi> Does anybody know how to use windows group policies with samba server
[05:07] <twb> !anybody > mopi
[05:08] <mopi> twb: thanks you are a big help
[05:08] <holmser_> he likes to do that
[05:09] <holmser_> he's done that to me 2x so far
[05:09] <twb> I like people to contribute to the signal, not the noise.
[05:09] <holmser_> he is also very helpful though....
[05:10] <bc> ubottu: what are you?
[05:10] <bc> ubottu: what kind of bot are you?
[05:10] <bc> supybot?
[05:10] <twb> ubottu: version
[05:10] <twb> Bah.
[05:11] <bc> !ubottu
[05:12] <bc> Ah, it is supybot, or based upon it.
[05:20] <mopi> !bye
[05:22] <holmser_> is there an easy way to give dd a progress bar?
[05:23] <bc> holmser_: maybe pv
[05:23] <twb> holmser_: pkill -HUP dd
[05:24] <twb> Recent dd should respond to a HUP signal by emitting progress information to stderr
[05:24] <twb> Sorry, usr1
[05:24] <twb> Don't use HUP, it'll stop dd
[05:25] <twb> holmser_: In *theory* you should only need to blow away the first 512 bytes or so, but since that happens during install and didn't appear to work, you're blowing away the entire disk.
[05:28] <holmser_> This server is a hand me down, and its the first actual server I have ever played with, so there are some things I am a little unclear about
[05:28] <holmser_> when I run the cat /proc/partitions it gives me sda and sda1, both 75 or so gigs
[05:29] <holmser_> I know previously it was set up as a raid 1
[05:29] <holmser_> when
[05:29] <holmser_> when I was in the install, it showed 1 drive with 140+ gigs
[05:30] <twb> Huh, how about that.
[05:30] <holmser_> but when I look inside the box, there are 3 drives
[05:30] <twb> holmser_: it's probably hardware RAID5, then.
[05:30] <qman__> if it successfully booted 2003, I'm guessing ubuntu only wiped one of the disks
[05:31] <qman__> and the RAID decided that was wrong
[05:31] <twb> Yeah, that's possible
[05:31] <twb> But then I'd expect him to be able to see all the drives
[05:31] <qman__> yeah
[05:32] <twb> holmser_: do you WANT to have a RAIDed ubuntu?
[05:39] <holmser_> Sure
[05:39] <holmser_> I don't really care.  I just want to be able to boot at this point
[05:39] <holmser_> I've gone through so much damn trouble with this machine
[05:40]  * ball sighs
[05:40] <twb> holmser_: if you just want to boot, unplug two of the three drives
[05:42] <twb> But note that it's not easy to turn a raidless install into a raided install; if you want raid later, you'll have to reinstall
[05:48] <holmser_> could it possibly be my raid settings?
[05:49] <twb> We don't even know if you're using raid
[05:49] <holmser_> I just looked at the raid settings, and apparently I have 2 147 gig drives
[05:49] <holmser_> so now I'm really confused
[05:49] <holmser_> I know the server 2003 install is using raid
[05:50] <twb> You said there were three drives.  Where does the third come in?
[05:59] <ball> Perhaps you've got one array of three drives partitioned into two spaces?
[05:59] <twb> Who knows
[05:59] <twb> I'd wanna check if it was a fakeraid card, too
[06:00] <ball> I'd wanna set fire to it, but that's just me.
[06:01] <twb> Never trust a machine you can lift
[06:01]  * ball nods
[06:03] <twb> So is auth-client-config supposed to be broken in 10.04?
[06:03] <twb> http://pastebin.com/qjEnTzBi
[06:07] <twb> No, it's my coworker's fault for being an ass
[06:07] <twb> He created a new auth-client-conf profile and didn't do it properly.
[06:07] <holmser_> ok... I just reset the raid config to defaults, and now the installer recognizes a 140 gig raid 5 disk
[06:08] <ball> holmser_: how large are your individual drives?
[06:08] <holmser_> I have 2 140 gig and 1 80 gig
[06:09] <holmser_> I think
[06:09] <ball> holmser_: I wouldn't try RAID 5 on those then
[06:09] <ball> ...especially not hardware RAID5
[06:09] <holmser_> it freezes when I don't activate the raid, and it doesn't boot when I install to the 80 gig, so I'm kind of stuck
[06:10] <ball> holmser_: Can you build a RAID 1 mirror from the two 140 Gbyte drives?
[06:10] <twb> There is little point raiding disks of varying sizes
[06:11] <ball> twb: at least with a hardware RAID controller.
[06:11] <ball> twb: with software RAID it's possible.
[06:11] <twb> It's *possible* with anything
[06:11]  * ball nods
[06:11] <ball> s/possible/possibly useful/
[06:11] <twb> s/disks/partitions/ and the same applies to md raid
[06:12] <ball> What is "md raid"?
[06:12] <twb> The RAID that is implemented by the kernel's multiple disk driver, "md".
[06:12] <ball> Ah, so Linux software RAID then?
[06:13] <twb> As opposed to software raid that is fakeraid
[06:13] <twb> md raid = mdadm = linux software raid
[06:13] <ball> Thanks.
[06:13]  * ball <- limited Linux experience.
[06:13] <twb> I try to avoid the term "software raid" because it could mean md raid OR fakeraid
[06:14] <holmser_> I have never configured raid before, this is a gift server from a law office that I want to use as a file server
[06:14] <ball> holmser_: Why do you (think you) need three drives in there?
[06:14] <twb> holmser_: we can help you if you're using md raid.  If you're using hardware raid, you need to talk to your hardware vendor.
[06:15] <twb> holmser_: you need to look at the raid card and determine if it's hardware or fake raid.
[06:16] <ball> twb: Would lspci or dmesg help him or her figure that out?
[06:16] <holmser_> If it was me, I would use one disk for OS and the raid array for a database
[06:16] <twb> ball: possibly.
[06:17] <ball> holmser_: I'd take out the 80 Gbyte drive and just run on a mirror of the two 140 Gbyte drives.
[06:17] <twb> holmser_: well, it IS you.
[06:18] <holmser_> I didn't realize that this would be a literal crash course in server admin
[06:18] <holmser_> I couldn't even get it to boot from a cd, so I had to configure a pxe boot
[06:19] <holmser_> this thing has been a pain in the ass since the minute I brought it home
[06:19] <twb> I'm actually impressed that you got PXE working on your own
[06:19] <ball> holmser_: It's good to figure these things out during (or shortly prior to) installation.
[06:19] <ball> holmser_: set fire to it.
[06:19] <holmser_> and it sounds like there is a damn jet engine in my living room
[06:19] <holmser_> my wife is pissed :)
[06:19] <ball> holmser_: They tend to be.
[06:19] <holmser_> luckily I had my web server in the closet that I could configure as the pxe hose
[06:20] <holmser_> host*
[06:20] <holmser_> I was really surprised that pxe worked too.
[06:21] <twb> holmser_: maybe you should reconsider putting this crappy box in your home
[06:22] <twb> A new, small-form-factor unit with two 500GiB drive would cost maybe $400 to $800.
[06:22] <holmser_> I'm a broke ass college student
[06:22] <holmser_> not really much choice
[06:22] <holmser_> I am stuck with hand me downs
[06:22] <twb> Do you pay for the power and A/C in your place? ;-)
[06:23] <holmser_> yeah.... but once I get it up and running I am gonna throw it in my detached garage.  its on seperate power that the landlord pays for :)
[06:23] <ball> Does the detached garage have crickets in it?
[06:25] <holmser_> I don't think so
[06:25] <holmser_> do crickets like servers?
[06:25] <twb> snakes do
[06:26] <holmser_> I believe it
[06:27]  * ScottK knows cockroaches like televisions.  Not sure about servers.
[06:27] <ball> Some people I know had roaches crawl out of a desktop PC recently (not their own, thankfully)
[06:31]  * bc killed one of the biggest "outside" roach bugs I've ever seen in my life yesterday trying to summit the ceiling.
[06:31] <bc> I'm guessing it's the 90F heat
[06:32] <bc> He had to be 2"x0.5"
[06:32] <jo-erlend> I have a local apt mirror. How do I make the installer use that mirror instead of accessing the default ones?
[06:33] <twb> jo-erlend: d-i or ubiquity?
[06:33] <jo-erlend> d-i?
[06:33] <jo-erlend> ah. d-i, yes.
[06:33] <twb> d-i should prompt you to select a mirror during the install.
[06:34] <jo-erlend> it doesn't. It does ask if I need to use a http proxy though.
[06:34] <twb> I suppose if canonical have gotten too "helpful" again, you will need to either do an "expert" install or manually supply it on the boot: prompt or in a preseed file.
[06:34] <twb> There is an appendix to the Debian Install Guide that covers these.
[06:35] <jo-erlend> thanks.
[06:36] <criminy> is there a hook for any of the linux ftp servers to delete a file once a client has downloaded it?
[06:37] <criminy> I've solved it by cludging together awk, sed, bash, cron, and lsof but I'd like a more integrated approach that doesn't rely on log file analysis and such
[06:39] <twb> criminy: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[06:40] <criminy> that doesn't really help me. nor will it load. We are working with a lazy vendor. We typically use webservices over HTTPS but this vendor demanded a non-secure FTP in a DMZ
[06:40] <holmser_> well, it doesn't boot to windows server 2003 anymore
[06:40] <holmser_> but it just freezes on boot after post
[06:41] <holmser_> I am starting to think that lighting it on fire is a viable option
[06:41] <criminy> ask a valid question and I get snark. fml
[06:41]  * ball nods, enthusiastically.
[06:41] <ball> holmser_: take out the 80, configure your array and install your OS>
[06:42] <ball> brb, pop
[06:47] <twb> holmser_: the fact that it hung is progress
[06:48] <twb> holmser_: now you can be confident that when you install ubuntu, it won't boot into windows afterward.
[06:48] <bc> ball: pop? soda?
[06:49]  * ball nods
[06:49] <bc> ball: North east? :)
[06:49] <bc> ball: Penn?
[06:49] <ball> bc: of what now?
[06:50] <bc> ball: when you wrote pop, do you mean, for instance, pepsi/coca-cola?
[06:50] <ball> I think this one's some sort of odd cherry pepsi thing.
[06:51] <twb> I thought they had it in cans now
[06:51] <twb> You wouldn't need to leave your terminal to go to the fountain
[06:52] <ball> twb: Some days, walking to the fridge is the only exercise I get. ;-)
[06:52] <bc> ball: you must be originally east of Missouri and north of Virginia
[06:52]  * ball thinks about it.
[06:52] <bc> ball: heh
[06:53] <ball> I suppose technically you're correct.
[06:53] <ball> ...though perhaps not in the way you imagine.
[06:53] <bc> ball: were you born in the area I described?
[06:54] <ball> bc: I was born and raised in England.
[06:54] <bc> ball: yikes, way off, by about an Atlantic
[06:55] <twb> "England, Kentucky or England, Ottawa?"
[06:55] <twb> \end{usian}
[06:55] <ball> twb: :-)
[06:56] <bc> I'm out before my mind explodes. G'night, foreigners. ;)
[06:56] <ball> bc: I live in Illinois now though.
[06:59] <bc> ball: What is the termin people in England use? Do they use "pop"?
[06:59] <bc> s/termin/term/
[07:01] <ball> bc: I don't know.  I'm not in England.
[07:01] <ball> bc: It may vary by region.
[07:01] <ball> "Soda" sounds American though.
[07:01] <ball> ...so perhaps it's just "pop".
[07:01] <bc> ball: no doubt it varies. OK, 'night.
[07:23] <rahman> Hi, is it possible to setup a kvm machine on a remote host via ssh? I need to install and configure a vm on our server but Its out of my reach and it also headless linux server without X. the guest system will alse be plain linux without X. So any hint?
[07:33] <unewbie> rahman have you installed the guest os?
[07:33] <qman__> rahman, I don't have experience with it, but I see no reason why that wouldn't work
[07:33] <unewbie> i have to stop apparmor to be able to manage my guest os
[07:37] <rahman> unewbie: Nope, As I try to say, I need to install it but I have only ssh access to host os. I used to use graphical tools to manage VMs. So I realy don't know how will I manage the VM when I start it up. Will it redirect its output to my current ssh console? Or Will I need to connect another port of the Host OS?
[07:37] <unewbie> no
[07:38] <unewbie> install the vm with ip
[07:38] <unewbie> then ssh as usual
[07:38] <unewbie> i just installed vm 2 days ago
[07:38] <unewbie> i'm new too
[07:46] <rahman> unewbie: I figured out that I need to use virt-manager on my desktop to connect and see the output of the VM guest after I do "virt-install --connect qemu:///system -n vm10 -r 128 --vcpus=2 -f ~/vm10.qcow2 -s 2 -c archlinux-2010.05-core-x86_64.iso --vnc --noautoconsole --os-type linux --accelerate --network=bridge:br0 --hvm" So I am trying it know . Thanks
[07:52] <unewbie> good
[08:39] <CppIsWeird> i cant seem to install ubnutu-server through usb. i've tried using unetboot and this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/run-ubuntu-9-10-server-edition-installer-from-usb/ it all gets stuck wanting files from the CD rom
[08:49] <Jordan_U> CppIsWeird: Easiest way is to just use the mini.iso (netboot). Everything needed to boot is contained in the kernel and initrd
[08:50] <huats> morning
[08:50] <twb> *Technically*, I think the 12MB mini.iso is distinct from the 120MB-ish netboot .iso.
[08:50] <twb> Just to make things confusing
[08:51] <twb> Never mind, that's "netinst", not "netboot"
[08:57] <huats> soren, sorry for giving anwers to your questions yesterday (questions that you asked to hep me)... I was struggling with  my host and guest configuration and at the end it was the time to get my son...
[08:58] <huats> soren, in the server mailing list you mention that you had configured an host as a router (in a datacenter), I would be really interested to hear a little more about that
[09:10] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all; I'm running 8.04 (since it came out of beta/rc) on my server (mainly a web server with a little extra mysql help around the network). My question is; to weather I should go ahead and update to 10.04 yet, or hang on until the end of the life cycle of 8.04? It's been working great; upgrading would mean I could jump in and clean it out at the same time.
[09:11] <twb> NineTeen67Comet: wait for 10.04.1
[09:12] <NineTeen67Comet> I've tried a few odds and end on it over the years (Nagios 2 and some others) that failed .. as well as several different e-mail server tutorials gone bad. So I know there are some dead config files laying around in there.
[09:12] <NineTeen67Comet> twb: good idea; I always forget the small updates and their security/stability improvements.
[09:18] <soren> huats: There's not much to it, really. Let me look it up.
[09:19] <eagles0513875> !iptables
[09:19] <soren> huats: These days, it should be even easier. That box is still running Hardy, and libvirt in Hardy didn't support this very well.
[09:20] <soren> eagles0513875: Can you please do stuff like that in private?
[09:20] <eagles0513875> sry
[09:20] <soren> Don't be sorry. Be better :)
[09:21] <soren> huats: You can create a network in libvirt that isn't NAT'ed, but just routed.
[09:21] <soren> huats: It was added to support this very use case.
[09:22] <huats> soren, that was my idea since apparently I have read in many places that the dataceter where the server is does not really support bridge
[09:22] <huats> so I'll continue that way
[09:22] <soren> huats: http://www.libvirt.org/formatnetwork.html under "Connectivity"
[09:22] <huats> thanks soren
[09:23] <soren> huats: You set <forward mode="route">
[09:23] <leander> btw, is ipv6 addressing syntax already properly supported in libvirt?
[09:23] <soren> huats: ...and that's pretty much it. Of course your firewall needs to allow the traffic to pass through and all that, but otherwise, that's it.
[09:25] <huats> soren, ok I'll try that way
[09:25] <huats> I'll let you know more during the day
[09:32] <soren> huats: sure thing.
[09:37] <baddassmutha> Apart from the Ubuntu main site, does any body know of a resource where I can find out about real world ubuntu server / desktop implimentations? i.e. someone who has installed from new or replaced a windows server / desktop domain with Linux (not just adding a Linux PC to a Win AD). Thank you all in advance!!
[09:49] <optikfluffel> hey guys.. i try to get a pptp vpn running on my ubuntu vserver.. could anyone help me with this, cause i'm getting some error and googling arround didn't fixed it..
[10:03] <corpse> quick noob question, once i have a iso mounted how can i go about installing the application?
[10:03] <corpse> or is that not possible from command line?
[11:05] <jussi> How does one create a new ssl certificate?
[11:07] <cicatrix> Hey guys. Looking for something like similar to supervisord. I found that supervisord rarely works properly on 9.10, not sure I want to try again with 10.04. Suggestions?
[11:07] <angelete2> how can i install xen on my 10.4?
[11:08] <soren> angelete2: You can't.
[11:08] <angelete2> and is it planed to add xen capabilities for newer versions=?
[11:11] <soren> No.
[11:12] <jussi> angelete2: kvm is the way to go now, iirc.
[11:13] <soren> If someone wants to maintain Xen, they're welcome to, but as it stands, noone does.
[11:13] <soren> Ubuntu works fine as a Xen guest, though.
[11:17] <angelete2> thank you
[11:17] <cicatrix> Nobody knows any alternatives to supervisor then?
[11:27] <rahman> Here is my kvm guest xml: http://pastebin.com/uLeeQ5US  virsh reports its running but I cant connect to it via virt-viewer, KRDC (kde remote desktop for vnc and rdp) how can I connect to the vm and setup a guest os?
[12:02] <a_ok> I am trying to do a iSCSI boot with ubuntu 10.4 but i'm getting the following error
[12:03] <a_ok> ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
[12:05] <mac_nibblet> Anyone alive?
[12:05] <RoyK>  
[12:05] <mac_nibblet> got a question about hardware compability
[12:05] <RoyK> just ask
[12:05] <mac_nibblet> does ubuntu server take full use of multiple processors on the motherboard
[12:05] <soren> Of course.
[12:06] <soren> Dude. It's 2010.
[12:06] <mac_nibblet> yeah i know but i read on google about some issues
[12:06] <soren> Even Windows does SMP these days.
[12:07] <mac_nibblet> the company is going to buy 3 dell poweredge 2850 servers
[12:07] <mac_nibblet> and i know im going to be the one the configurate them
[12:09] <a_ok> mac_nibblet: I have a few R510 here with two Intel Xeon E5520
[12:09] <mac_nibblet> oki
[12:09] <mac_nibblet> and u didn't have any major issues?
[12:10] <a_ok> as long as the program is multitreaded all 8 cores are utilized and no issues at all
[12:10] <a_ok> mac_nibblet: well I do have an issue but not cpu related
[12:11] <a_ok> iSCSI boot is a pain and I don't know wether its simply a missing driver in the initram or some config thingy
[12:13] <soren> rahman: ...but it's ok in here.
[12:13] <soren> rahman: that screenshot doesn't help at all. You need to explain what you're doing.
[12:14] <rahman> soren: thanks, so #kvm  is for only developer chats?
[12:14] <soren> rahman: No, it's for kvm.
[12:14] <soren> rahman: You're not having problems with kvm.
[12:14] <soren> Probably, at least.
[12:15] <rahman> soren: thanks, never mind I give up to setup kvm, and will try VBoxHeadless instead
[12:16] <soren> Have fun.
[12:22] <eagles0513875> !bind9 | eagles0513875
[12:27] <a_ok> what modules do I need for a broadcom netxtreme2
[12:27] <thefish> a_ok: bnx2 ifaik
[12:27] <a_ok> ok thanks
[12:27] <thefish> a_ok: been having wierd problems on a dell blade with that here, are you having issues?
[12:29] <a_ok> thefish: iSCSI boot not working so I want to make sure the driver is in the initram
[12:29] <thefish> ah k
[12:34] <eagles0513875> is anyone having strange issues with ssh on a non standard port with iptables as a firewall
[12:43] <eagles0513875> for some reason for me unless i restart ssh i cant connect to my server via ssh
[12:44] <eagles0513875> the port im using instead of port 22 is 2200
[12:44] <eagles0513875> iptables is set to allow connections on that port
[12:44] <thefish> eagles0513875: unless you restart ssh?
[12:44] <thefish> so you cant connect, then you restart ssh and you can connect?
[12:44] <eagles0513875> ya
[12:45] <eagles0513875> basically
[12:45] <eagles0513875> the operation either times out or is refused
[12:45] <thefish> this is after some time passes?
[12:45] <eagles0513875> this is on a vps
[12:45] <thefish> you say it works after you restart ssh
[12:45] <eagles0513875> thefish: ya
[12:45] <eagles0513875> ya
[12:45] <eagles0513875> since this is a vps i have a java consol on this panel and i can access the server from there to restart ssh
[12:46] <thefish> did you change your sshd_config to listen on 2200?
[12:46] <eagles0513875> yes
[12:46] <eagles0513875> first thing i did
[12:47] <eagles0513875> iptables -L shows 2200 is allowed
[12:47] <thefish> so to reproduce, you restart sshd, login sucsessfully with ssh, then wait a while for it to stop working again?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> thefish: yes it seems to also happen if the server closes the remote connection from its end then the problem also arises
[12:50] <eagles0513875> if i enter the password im fine
[12:50] <eagles0513875> also happens after a reboot of the server
[12:50] <eagles0513875> thefish: http://pastebin.com/xzqQhLCk <-- iptables -vL from a bit earlier shows that the port is open
[12:51] <eagles0513875> it seems like a massive delay though before it asks me for my password thefish
[12:51] <eagles0513875> seems to be fine now O_o
[12:51] <thefish> heh
[13:31] <jdstrand> unewbie: please file a bug if you have to disable the apparmor profile when using libvirt
[13:32] <jdstrand> unewbie: file it against libvirt and state all the steps to reproduce
[13:36] <_ruben> eagles0513875: sounds dns-problem'ish
[13:40] <sommer> morning
[13:45] <diago> Is it possible to install and setup DRBD on a system that is already in use?
[13:49] <Snadder> Does ubuntu server 64bit have an dvd with all packages? I only see the cd on ubuntu.com.
[13:59] <a_ok> I am trying to build a cpio archive but keep ending up with doubles... can someone please tell me whats the correct way to build a cpio archive?
[14:04] <a_ok> arg never mind messed up my find command
[14:06] <eagles0513875> _ruben: its not dns is fine
[14:08] <phretor> hi, I have a number of dbus-daemon open for almost every user. Is it normal?
[14:13] <zul> ttx: what do you think of bug #342056?
[14:20] <dassouki> what is the best way to give a user access to their home and /var/www/their_url ... I'm adding a developer to what pretty much was a solo project
[14:26] <Snadder> Hi.. I installed ubuntu 10.04 with grub2 (previously had debian lenny with grub1).. Now I booted to a grub 15 error.. Anyone know how to fix it?
[15:06] <Omahn> Anyone fancy reviewing some upstart scripts for NIS?
[15:08] <dassouki> awesome .. /wc 4
[15:08] <dassouki> oops
[15:12] <zul> Omahn: yeah that would be cool...if you open up a bug in launchpad that would be great!
[15:12] <Omahn> zul: I'll upload to bug #569757
[15:14] <zul> Omahn: thanks
[15:16] <Omahn> zul: Done. This is my first attempt with writing upstart scripts. I've tested the client side (ypbind) and that works fine on our test machines. I haven't tested the server parts as comprehensively, but they appear to work ok. I might of course be heading in completely the wrong direction. Looking forward to some feedback :-)
[15:16] <zul> Omahn: gotcha
[15:17] <Omahn> zul: Thanks.
[15:18] <Omahn> I understand that nis is no longer in main but the fact that nis doesn't reliably come up in Lucid has completely stopped the roll out of Ubuntu at our site. Hopefully we can get it sorted sooner rather than later. :-)
[15:41] <ttx> Daviey: you didn't send me the euca merge to review ?
[15:43] <Daviey> ttx: No.. i'm trying to establish why only the CC works at the moment
[15:43] <ttx> Daviey: ok
[15:43] <Daviey> I was unable to even touch it yesterday
[15:43] <Omahn> Bit stuck now. What's the correct way of installing an upstart job when building a package?
[15:45] <a_ok> can someone tell me how I add something to the initrd image? so far all my attempts end in a kernel panic (eg my initrd file is not accepted)
[16:54] <leonel-vaio> hello ... is there an estimated time for python-django 1.2.1 gets merged from debian unstable to maveric?
[16:59] <ScottK> leonel-vaio: It's when someone gets to it.
[17:00] <leonel-vaio> ScottK: any one ?
[17:00] <leonel-vaio> even me ?
[17:00] <ScottK> You could prepare a merge and propose it for a developer to review.
[17:00] <ScottK> Absolutely.
[17:01] <leonel-vaio> Great .. squeesing my schedule to make time ..
[17:07] <mathiaz> hggdh: hi!
[17:07] <mathiaz> hggdh: what's the state of the ubuntu10.2 eucalyptus SRU verification process?
[17:09] <hggdh> mathiaz: I tested it, and marked the bugs verification-done (yesterday)
[17:09] <hggdh> mathiaz: and hi ;-)
[17:09] <mathiaz> hggdh: awesome - so ubuntu10.2 should be pushed to -updates soon?
[17:10] <MTecknology> I have a server that has everything sitting on a single HD. (and it's hosting 4 vm's) I'm going to get pretty read/write heavy (hdparm tells me I'm getting anywhere from 4 to 90 mb/s on the guests and ~150 on the host). I'm hitting my head here and my guess is that the only way to alleviate this is to get more drive i/o available. I'm not sure what the best way to do this is, but I know cheap is extremely important. I was thinking of ge
[17:22] <hggdh> mathiaz: hold on. I think I misunderstood you
[17:23] <hggdh> mathiaz: I tested euca 1.6.2-0ubuntu30.2. What is Ubuntu 10.2?
[17:32] <mathiaz> hggdh: oh no - you were correct
[17:32] <mathiaz> hggdh: I mistyped
[17:32] <mathiaz> hggdh: I was referring to 1.6.2-0ubuntu30.2.
[17:35] <hallyn> mathiaz: i'm still failing to see exactly how the bzr qemu-kvm tree relates to the package i built.  In particular, I can see pretty trivially how I would base on a custom +noroms tgz by editing the .dsc file by hand.  But where under debian/ would I do the change to be reflected in .dsc?
[17:36] <mathiaz> hallyn: hm
[17:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: here is the process I would follow to update to the new upstream release
[17:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: 1. download the upstream tarball
[17:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: 2. unpack and remove the binary roms
[17:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: to create +noroms.orig.tar.gz
[17:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: 3. import the +noroms.orig.tar.gz:
[17:37] <mathiaz> hallyn: bzr merge-upstream +noroms.orig.tar.gz
[17:38] <mathiaz> hallyn: 4. Update the package and rebuild the debian src package
[17:38] <mathiaz> hallyn: bzr bd -S
[17:38] <hallyn> mathiaz: thanks!
[17:38] <mathiaz> hallyn: does that answer your question?
[17:38] <hallyn> (i'll have to look into how merge-usptream is coded)
[17:38] <hallyn> yup!
[17:39] <mathiaz> hallyn: bzr help merge-upstream
[17:39] <mathiaz> hallyn: with the bzr-builddeb plugin installed
[17:39] <mathiaz> hallyn: with the bzr-builddeb *package* installed
[17:40] <hallyn> mathiaz: thanks, i'll go try, hopefully i won't be bugging you any more
[17:40]  * hallyn off
[17:41] <mathiaz> hallyn: if you run into other issues don't hesitate to ask around
[17:41] <mathiaz> hallyn: I would actually ask in #ubuntu-devel instead
[17:41] <mathiaz> hallyn: since more people may be able to answer there
[17:42] <mathiaz> SpamapS: hi!
[17:43] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I've finished up the mongodb merge you've asked for sponsoring
[17:43] <hallyn> mathiaz: ah, ok
[17:43] <BrixSat> hello how do i enable "Tun" module?
[17:44] <mathiaz> hallyn: you can still ping me from #ubuntu-devel (I'm there...) - doing it there will increase your chances to have an answer if/when I'm not around
[17:44] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I'd suggest you quickly review the whole diff
[17:44] <mathiaz> SpamapS: as I've added some things
[17:46] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I took a look last night .. I think I understand everything. :)
[17:47] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I got side tracked when I accidentally deleted my entire /home when trying to remove schroots. ;)
[17:47] <mathiaz> SpamapS: great - so now we can work on the other bugs I looked at yesterday
[17:47] <mathiaz> SpamapS: oh....
[17:47]  * SpamapS is thankful for hourly backups. :)
[17:47] <SpamapS> I lost nothing.. amazingly enough
[17:48] <Shinhan> How can I change resolution in command line mode? Everything I google about changing resolution CLI talks about various commands for X server, while this installation of ubuntu server doesnt even have X. It just has too high resolution so the letters are really small. (its a 19" CRT)
[17:48] <hggdh> mathiaz: then all is good -- 30.2 was already in the -proposed, should now go to backports
[17:48] <mathiaz> hggdh: hm - s/backports/-updates/?
[17:48] <hggdh> mathiaz: duh. Indeed, sorry
[17:48] <BrixSat> hello how do i enable "Tun" module?
[17:54] <Shinhan> I found something that might help me, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682377 but I dont have a menu.lst file in /boot/grub/ Am I safe to create menu.lst with only contents being "vga=792"?
[17:55] <Shinhan> or is that some other file that I should change? or is that file elsewhere?
[17:56] <SpamapS> mathiaz: wait, I didn't realize what you were saying. Where can I get your .dsc for 1.4.3-2ubuntu1?
[17:56] <SpamapS> mathiaz: never mind, found it on launchpad :)
[17:57] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I'd suggest to use bzr pkg branches
[17:57] <mathiaz> SpamapS: bzr branch lp:ubuntu/mongodb
[17:57] <mathiaz> SpamapS: and you'll get the unpack source code
[18:01] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I've been using apt-get source only.. though just because thats "the way I learnt it" ;)
[18:01] <SpamapS> that or 'dpkg-source -x' ..
[18:02] <mathiaz> SpamapS: right - bzr pkg branches in the new cool thing in Ubuntu
[18:02] <mathiaz> SpamapS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/
[18:02] <mathiaz> SpamapS: nowadays I rarely do apt-get source ....
[18:02] <mathiaz> SpamapS: instead I usually start with:
[18:02] <mathiaz> SpamapS: bzr init-repo src-pkg-name
[18:03] <mathiaz> SpamapS: cd src-pkg-name/
[18:03] <mathiaz> SpamapS: bzr co lp:ubuntu/src-pkg-name/ maverick
[18:03] <mathiaz> SpamapS: that way I get the complete source
[18:03] <mathiaz> SpamapS: If I need to have the debian source:
[18:03] <mathiaz> SpamapS: bzr co lp:debian/sid/src-pkg-name/ sid/
[18:03] <mathiaz> SpamapS: and when I plan to work on a fix:
[18:04] <mathiaz> SpamapS: bzr branch maverick fix-bug-XXXX
[18:04] <mathiaz> SpamapS: to merge a package from debian:
[18:04] <mathiaz> SpamapS: bzr branch maverick m-merge-from-debian
[18:04] <mathiaz> SpamapS: cd m-merge-from-debian/
[18:04] <mathiaz> SpamapS: bzr merge-package ../sid
[18:10] <hallyn> mathiaz: so 'bzr branch' pretty much works like git checkout?  i can do unlimited cheap branching?
[18:14] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I like it if for no other reason than I can use launchpad's collborative features for branches. :)
[18:14] <SpamapS> mathiaz: given that, can I use merge proposals instead of sponsorship queued bugs? ;)
[18:15] <BrixSat> how do i enable "Tun" module?
[18:15] <mathiaz> SpamapS: yes - that's the goal of the project
[18:16] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I'll happily review merge proposal
[18:16] <mathiaz> SpamapS: as it's easier than bug and patch attachements
[18:16] <mathiaz> hallyn: yes - kind of
[18:16] <mathiaz> hallyn: I haven't enough knowledge from git though
[18:16] <mathiaz> hallyn: but I usually start by setting up a shared repository
[18:17] <mathiaz> hallyn: (bzr init-repo src-pkg-name)
[18:17] <mathiaz> hallyn: and then get the pkg branch from lp
[18:17] <mathiaz> hallyn: IIRC git checkout will do the checkout of the branch in the directory you're in
[18:17] <mathiaz> hallyn: where as with bzr you still have one directory per branch
[18:18] <hallyn> mathiaz: yup
[18:18] <mathiaz> hallyn: but the .bzr/ directory is shared amongst all of them
[18:18] <mathiaz> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/448341/
[18:19] <mathiaz> hallyn: ^^ this is what I created while reviewing your qemu-kvm branch
[18:19] <mathiaz> hallyn: I started by get the maverick branch
[18:19] <mathiaz> hallyn: and then got your own branch
[18:19] <mathiaz> hallyn: as they're using a shared repository (the .bzr/) getting your branch from LP is much faster
[18:20] <hallyn> to be honest the git branches "feel" cheaper since they don't take up extra directories :)
[18:20] <mathiaz> hallyn: agreed
[18:20] <mathiaz> hallyn: you're not changing directories
[18:20] <hallyn> but that's just a perceived diff...
[18:20] <mathiaz> hallyn: for bzr you can still refer to other branches
[18:20] <mathiaz> hallyn: so given the directory structure above I diff your contentn with:
[18:21] <mathiaz> hallyn: update-to-12.4/$ bzr diff --old ../maverick
[18:23] <mathiaz> hallyn: and when working with merges the best trick is to use the ancestor: option when doing diff
[18:23] <mathiaz> hallyn: maverick/$ bzr diff -rancestor:../sid
[18:23] <mathiaz> SpamapS: ^^
[18:24] <mathiaz> hallyn: SpamapS: using -rancestor:../other-branch you can easily review what has changed in Debian,Ubuntu since the last point of merge
[18:26] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I like it, but its going to take me a few times to get used ot it. ;)
[18:27] <mathiaz> SpamapS: yeah - it took me a while to figure it out
[18:27] <SpamapS> mathiaz: ppa question.. if I upload things into the PPA first, can they be used as build deps for other things that I upload to the PPA? (hoping YES)
[18:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: yes!
[18:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it's one of the advantage of using PPAs
[18:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it's like mini-archive
[18:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it will use the Ubuntu archive by default
[18:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: but also the PPA itself
[18:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: which is useful when you need to add dependencies
[18:29] <SpamapS> mathiaz: right.. have to do that for the Cassandra debs
[18:30] <mathiaz> SpamapS: this is what I did for the backport of bzr-git in https://launchpad.net/~mathiaz/+archive/bzr-git/
[18:30] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I *think* you can upload everything and LP will take care of building the build dependencies correclty
[18:30] <mathiaz> SpamapS: but I haven't tested it yet
[18:31] <mathiaz> SpamapS: for the PPA above I took care of the ordering by myself
[18:31] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I'm ok with having to upload the build deps first, waiting for them to build, then uploading main package
[18:31] <mathiaz> SpamapS: first uploading the dependency, waiting for it to be build and then uploading the other package
[18:32] <mathiaz> SpamapS: right - IIRC LP takes care of that in ubuntu
[18:32] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I guess it may do the same thing for PPA
[18:34] <diago> is there a way to shrink a qcow2 image. I made a 500GB image and only about 50GB is being used. I want to shrink it so I can transfer it to an lv
[18:38] <BrixSat> how do i fiz this "FATAL: Module tun not found." ?
[18:40] <SpamapS> BrixSat: when do you see that?
[18:42] <BrixSat> SpamapS:  sudo modprobe tun
[18:44] <BrixSat> SpamapS:  any ideia how to enable mod tun?
[18:45] <SpamapS> BrixSat: it may be built into the kernel
[18:45] <SpamapS> BrixSat: try 'ifconfig tun0'
[18:45] <zul> mathiaz: ping is the weelky accepted SRU suppose to be sent to ubuntu-server ml?
[18:45] <BrixSat> tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[18:49] <hggdh> smoser: around?
[18:49] <smoser> here.
[18:49] <smoser> que pasa?
[18:50] <hggdh> when you were testing, you saw a series of instances that did not get a public IP address, correct?
[18:51] <smoser> i'm not certain.
[18:52] <smoser> i believe when you look at the logs, you will see that all those failures do not have IP addresses.
[18:52] <smoser> that said, i think (this is fuzzy memory), that the logs only show the final 'describe-images' output
[18:52] <smoser> err... describe-instances
[18:52] <hggdh> may be. I see many of them now with both IPs set to the private
[18:52] <smoser> my experience is that instances can lose their public ip address
[18:52] <smoser> so its possible it got one, and then lost it.
[18:52] <hggdh> weird
[18:53] <smoser> hggdh, right.
[18:53] <hggdh> well, ça va sans dire, I guess
[18:53] <smoser> i'm just not certain that that was *always* the case for a given instance.
[18:53] <hggdh> k
[18:54] <hggdh> I will try to zero in that
[18:54] <hggdh> wait
[18:55] <hggdh> the metadata issue, when it happens (at least all my last tests) it shows an internal IP address -- 169.something
[18:55] <hggdh> meaning there was no response from the DHCP server
[18:55] <hggdh> I wonder if their fix will also affect this error
[18:55] <hggdh> ('this' meaning no public IP)
[18:55] <SpamapS> BrixSat: something in the back of my mind is telling me there is a commandl ike 'tunctl' that needs to create the tun device
[18:56]  * hggdh meanwhile pushes a series of small adjustments to the uec testing scripts
[18:57] <BrixSat> SpamapS:  installed the tunctl
[18:57] <BrixSat> SpamapS:  should i install the tunctl?
[19:00] <newbie> Hey can someone recommend me a program that is able to attempt a internet/ network trace rout and provides more network information then the default installed unbuntu one
[19:01] <kpettit> newbie, mtr
[19:01] <kpettit> it's kind of like a ping but shows you a updated route with info about those routes.  helps spot problem spots
[19:01] <SpamapS> BrixSat: you're trying to create an IP-IP tunnel, right?
[19:02] <newbie> Would that help me identify why I can connect to the internet and yet my network is fine?
[19:02] <BrixSat> SpamapS:  yes for (coovachilli)
[19:02] <SpamapS> BrixSat: after 'modprobe tun' what is the next instruction you're supposed to follow?
[19:02] <newbie> Internet worked perfectly when I installed unbuntu 2 days ago and installed tor yesterday which fine and today nothing
[19:02] <kpettit> it might.  It will let you know how far you can get.  So if you try to do  "mtr google.com"
[19:03] <kpettit> if you don't go anywhere that lets you know you probally have a settings issue
[19:07] <newbie> Think running it off a pen drive could make a difference? such as the settings not saving right after a shutdown?
[19:15] <BrixSat> SpamapS:  the problem is that altought i have a tun0 i dont see any trafic on it
[19:36] <zul> mathiaz: ping
[19:51] <bventura> hello!  ? for a dovecot expert is it possible to automate deleting messages in a dovecot installation using Maildir format?  IE, trashing junk mail in a specific folder after it's been run thru the spamassassin filter with a script?
[19:51] <bventura> "run thru sa-learn" i should have said to be precise
[19:54] <bc> bventura: you may be able to use crontab -e -u <user> to simplify things.
[19:54] <bventura> sure, but what I'm missing is how to delete the messages from a command line?
[19:57] <bc> bventura: I'm not sure if it keeps some kind of journal of messages, but you may be able to just rm -f files from a cronjob at a specific interval. Or wrap sa-learn in a script that rm -f's after, then call that from crontab.
[19:58] <oru_work> greetings. how can I go about backing up entire filesystem ?
[19:58] <bc> bventura: however, depending on the scope, you might be able to automate the deletions from your mail client if this is only for you.
[19:58] <bventura> bc: i was thinking the same thing but am hesitant because I thought Maildir also maintians a database of the messages and I dont want to jack up my DB
[19:58] <bc> bventura: yes, that's what I was uncertain about.
[20:09] <Adylas> Hello ! Ubuntu 10-04 server at host. Ubuntu 10.04 as guest. As soon as I start using the VM (read, using all the memory) I got a kernel panic. The Guest seems to never write to swap. Any idea ?
[20:11] <mathiaz> zul: hey - asupz?
[20:12] <zul> mathiaz: for the weekly accepted sru should it be sent to the ubuntu-server list?
[20:12] <oru_work> anyone ?
[20:12] <mathiaz> zul: the weekly *nominated* sru
[20:12] <mathiaz> zul: the accepted will be listed somewhere else
[20:13] <zul> mathiaz: ok
[20:13] <SpamapS> mathiaz: just getting the build-deps for cassandra is turning out to be *almost* as hard as the runtime deps
[20:13] <mathiaz> SpamapS: :)
[20:13] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it usually is the hardest part actually
[20:14] <hggdh> oru_work: dd works
[20:14] <SpamapS> mathiaz: yeah ... dep dep dep.. I'm just putting the jars in lib since we're giving up on doing this "the right way" :-/
[20:14] <mathiaz> SpamapS: yeah
[20:14] <mathiaz> SpamapS: that's probably the easiest way
[20:14] <mathiaz> SpamapS: put all the binary jars into the .orig.tarball
[20:15] <SpamapS> mathiaz: maven-debian-helper, btw, is failing me now.. the first thing I did with it worked fine, but ever since it hasn't worked, and most of the time for mysterious reasons. :-/
[20:15] <oru_work> hggdh, will that work in virtual envirenment ? I"m payinb for VPS from linode
[20:15] <SpamapS> mathiaz: oohh.. I was going to put them in debian.. no?
[20:15] <mathiaz> SpamapS: hm - you could put them there
[20:16] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it may be better - I've never done that
[20:17] <Pici> oru_work: Theres no reason why it wouldn't work.
[20:18] <oru_work> Pici, so with dd i can copy an "image" of my entire disk over ssh ? am I understanding it right ?
[20:19] <Pici> oru_work: sure.
[20:20] <oru_work> Pici, what would be the command ?
[20:21] <Pici> oru_work: That, I do not know, sorry :(
[20:33] <prodcutnews1> asking ubuntu Q in ubuntu room.... whatz best  internet download manager for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[20:34] <guntbert> prodcutnews1: the same rule applies here: try them - nobody can tell what is "best" for you :-)
[20:35] <SpamapS> ERROR [pool-1-thread-1] 2010-06-11 12:35:40,452 CassandraDaemon.java (line 78) Fatal exception in thread Thread[pool-1-thread-1,5,main]
[20:36] <SpamapS> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
[20:36] <SpamapS> ahh... java.. so sweet... so bloated.. ;)
[20:36] <prodcutnews1> ont get me wrong ...i dont even started with any IDM in ubuntu, im not trying for poll here,  the use of word 'BEST' is a crime in the room
[20:37] <guntbert> !crosspost | prodcutnews1
[20:41] <oru_work> I remember in 9.04 by default when using screen it first gave you a choice which screen profile to use, and one of them on the bottom showed system time, version and some other very useful info. How would i go about using that in 9.10 or 10.04 ?
[20:43] <SpamapS> oru_work: byobou
[20:44] <SpamapS> oru_work: specifically, apt-get install byobou, and then if you want to enable it by default, 'dpkg-reconfigure byobou'
[20:44] <SpamapS> oru_work: sorry, byobu
[20:48] <hallyn> then run dvtm in byobu :)
[20:51] <oru_work> dvtm ?
[20:51] <hallyn> tiling terminal manager.  if you have a big screen it can be useful
[20:52] <hallyn> (like splitvt of old)
[21:19] <hggdh> SpamapS: byobou... like couscous? ;-)
[21:25] <Omahn> Could anyone tell me what the correct way of including an upstart job in a source package is?
[21:28] <oru_work> SpamapS, what would be the proper way of exiting from putty with byobu ?
[21:29] <oru_work> to detach ?
[21:29] <oru_work> and then logout
[21:29] <oru_work> ?
[21:33] <guntbert> oru_work: if you want to keep the byobou session, yes
[21:35] <oru_work> guntbert, hmm on one of my servers dpkg-reconfigure byobu worked, on the other diddn't
[21:36] <oru_work> :(
[21:36] <oru_work> just returned an empty line
[21:36] <oru_work> didn't go into config
[21:36] <kirkland> oru_work: to exit all windows, you can use ctrl-a-\
[21:37] <kirkland> oru_work: to detach, and leave your stuff running, use F6
[21:37] <guntbert> oru_work: you don't need to use byobou - screen has the same capabilities, only no bottom line with help
[21:38] <oru_work> how can I enable byubu for all users ?
[21:39] <guntbert> oru_work: if you installed it anyone can use it
[21:39] <oru_work> its installed. I'm trying to make it enabled by default for all users
[21:40] <oru_work> sudo dpkg-reconfigure byobu
[21:40] <oru_work> that apparantly does nothing
[21:40] <kirkland> oru_work: cat /etc/issue
[21:40] <guntbert> oru_work: sorry, I never use it myself
[21:41] <kirkland> oru_work: the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure byobu" was added in 10.04
[21:41] <oru_work> kirkland, 9.10
[21:41] <kirkland> oru_work: okay, there you go ...
[21:41] <kirkland> oru_work: any chance you can upgrade to 10.04?
[21:41] <oru_work> uhu
[21:41] <kirkland> oru_work: otherwise, each user needs to run "byobu-launcher-install"
[21:41] <kirkland> oru_work: or, if you're an admin, perhaps you can run that on behalf of each user
[21:41] <oru_work> kirkland, yup, after scheduled backup at 17:00 my time today
[21:42] <oru_work> kirkland, "byobu-launcher-install" ? I don't get it
[21:47] <kirkland> oru_work: byobu-launcher-install (and byobu-launcher-uninstall) are two commands that any user can run to toggle on/off byobu to launch automatically at login
[21:47] <kirkland> oru_work: those two commands exist on both 9.10 and 10.04
[21:48] <kirkland> oru_work: while 10.04 introduced the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure byobu" method of always launching byobu for all users
[21:48] <oru_work> byobu-launcher-install
[21:48] <oru_work> byobu-launcher-install: command not found
[21:48] <kirkland> oru_work: so, if you want to upgrade 9.10 to 10.04, you can use the dpkg-reconfigure method
[21:48] <oru_work> kirkland, ^^
[21:48] <kirkland> oru_work: ls /usr/bin/byobu-* for me
[21:50] <oru_work> http://pastebin.org/325192
[21:50] <oru_work> kirkland, ^^
[21:51] <kirkland> oru_work: one sec ...
[21:52] <kirkland> oru_work: okay, found it ... /usr/share/byobu/byobu-launcher-install (and -uninstall)
[21:52] <kirkland> oru_work: so in 9.10, you can ask each user to run that command
[21:52] <kirkland> oru_work: or, if you can su - to those users, you can run it for them
[21:53] <kirkland> oru_work: alternatively, you can upgrade to 10.04
[21:53] <kirkland> oru_work: or, you can install byobu from this PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~byobu/+archive/ppa
[21:53] <kirkland> oru_work: actually, if you install from that PPA, you'll get the latest/greatest byobu will new features too
[21:54] <oru_work> kirkland, i just ran /usr/share/byobu/byobu-launcher-install which returned nothing, should i trying to re-login ?
[21:54] <kirkland> oru_work: yup
[21:55] <oru_work> worked but when I hit F9 and select change colors, here is what I get  Error: /home/paul/.byobu/profile file exists, but is not
[21:55] <oru_work> is not ..... nothing
[21:55] <kirkland> oru_work: okay ... do this ...
[21:56] <kirkland> oru_work: your setup sounds buggered
[21:56] <kirkland> oru_work: mv your .byobu out of the way entirely
[21:56] <kirkland> oru_work: and remove the line in your ~/.byobu/profile that says anything about byobu
[21:56] <kirkland> oru_work: then run "byobu"
[21:56] <kirkland> oru_work: then press F9, and Toggle Byobu to launch by default
[21:56] <oru_work>  sec
[21:57] <larsemil> arent there any jeos with 10.04?
[21:58] <oru_work> kirkland, should i try apt-get remove byobu instead ?
[21:58] <kirkland> oru_work: no
[21:59] <oru_work> so then mv /usr/bin/byobu/ /usr/bin/byobu.bak ?
[21:59] <kirkland> oru_work:
[21:59] <kirkland> oru_work: no
[21:59] <kirkland> oru_work: mkdir /tmp/foo
[21:59] <kirkland> oru_work: mv ~/.byobu ~/.screen /tmp/foo
[21:59] <kirkland> oru_work: byobu
[22:00] <kirkland> oru_work: F9
[22:00] <kirkland> oru_work: configure away
[22:00] <oru_work> sec
[22:01] <sbeattie> larsemil: the server install offers a minimal install for virtual environments under the F4 menu option.
[22:03] <oru_work> kirkland, mv: cannot stat `/home/paul/.screen': No such file or directory
[22:05] <oru_work> kirkland, you know lets not worry about this for now
[22:05] <oru_work> kirkland, thanks for help, i'm about to start the backup and then just upgrade to 10.04
[22:06] <oru_work> kirkland, thanks for help and have a great weekend i'm out here :)
[22:07] <dazman> Was just about to say ~/.screenrc too.
[22:09] <larsemil> sbeattie: found it thanks alot
[22:18] <larsemil> i have heard libvirt + kvm is slower in 10.04 then earlier, is that the case?
[22:29] <malchias> I tried a dpkg --get-selections > out.deb and on another server dpkg --set-selections && apt-get -f install.   Isn't this supposed to copy the package configuration so the 2 machines have the same base install?   if not, how do I do that?
[22:29] <malchias> I meant dpkg --set-selections < out.deb ....sorry
[22:37] <webPragmatist> RoAkSoAx: you around… have a question about http://roaksoax.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/cluster-sinchronization-tool-csync2/
[22:37] <webPragmatist> or anyone know what the point of the certificates are if you are doing -k
[22:38] <webPragmatist> on that link
[22:40] <ziesemer_> What is the easiest way to create a new partition to fill a disk on gpt that is "properly aligned"?
[22:41] <ziesemer_> I made sure both the start and the end size were evenly divisible by 512 (matching reported 512B sector size), and parted still complains that it isn't aligned.
[22:53] <ziesemer_> Guess I needed to align to cylinders, not just sectors...
[23:04] <larsemil> last
[23:04] <larsemil> help commands
[23:04] <larsemil> sry!
[23:07] <webPragmatist> man
[23:14] <webPragmatist> hey guys
[23:14] <webPragmatist> i'm trying to use csync2 but get Identification failed
[23:14] <webPragmatist> i had to recreate the keys a few times… i deleted the old sqllite db
[23:14] <webPragmatist> is there something else ih ave to do?
[23:15] <webPragmatist> http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20071128.125839.683b1eae.en.html
[23:15] <webPragmatist> thats the exact same pickle i'm in
[23:18] <webPragmatist> oooh idea
[23:19] <webPragmatist> nope
[23:19] <webPragmatist> dammit what the heck
[23:21] <malchias> how do I make sure one server is the same as another as far as packages installed is concerned?
[23:22] <jpds> malchias: dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt on both and diff the output.
[23:22] <webPragmatist> ooh got it
[23:22] <malchias> jpds: can I --set-selections too?
[23:22] <jpds> Yep.
[23:22] <malchias> it didn't do anything when I did, and I did a apt-get -f install too
[23:23] <jpds> dpkg --set-selections < packages.txt && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[23:23] <malchias> ah, ok I will try that, thank you
[23:30] <malchias> jpds: perfect, thank you  - it showed me the diff in a cut and paste apt-get install too so I can document it quick.  Thank you
[23:31] <jpds> malchias: No worries.
[23:32] <cybrocop> Hi all. I got a question about Eucalyptus on 10.04.   eucalyptus-cc is not automatically starting upon system boot. I don't think this is normal behavior as all other euca* services start properly. When I manually start it, it works.
[23:32] <cybrocop> Is it possible that eucalyptus-cc is not enabled to start by default for some reason?
[23:33] <hggdh> cybrocop: no, it is not normal behaviour
[23:38] <SpamapS> hrm.. I really do need to build an apt mirror on this 500G USB drive I bought... starbucks 2Mbit connection just isn't enough for installing 40MB of dependencies 5 times.. :-P
[23:41] <linxeh> SpamapS: better than my home connection :p
[23:42] <SpamapS> linxeh: heh... at home I have AT&T U-verse .. 6Mbit is the low end... can get 30Mbit down/5Mbit up pretty cheap.
[23:49] <malchias> for security, how should apache logs be group & permission?   Actually how should all of the web directories be?  assume the group is www-data.   Can anyone recommend an article that spells it out for me?
[23:54] <SpamapS> malchias: not necessarily.. its up to you on what strategy you want to use. It may be better to make it an alternate user/group from the webserver, and world readable. That way you can give multiple users write access w/o allowing the web server scripts to change the content.
[23:54] <malchias> is there a best practices document somewhere?
[23:54] <malchias> I don't feel like I know enough to choose a proper strategy