| gichity | Hello all. When trying to install ubuntustudio from an alternate DVD on hard disk. After i have successfully partitioned and intending to install ubuntustudio i get a "Debootstrap error.. Failed to determine the codename for release". What is the solution? | 06:44 |
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| gichity | meant *am trying to install ubuntu studio not when | 06:44 |
| mothersofinventi | I can listen to MIDI normally using timidity through command line, I simply don't understand why don't I hear a sound when it comes to rosegarden. some problem related to jack, perhaps? | 08:23 |
| mothersofinventi | hello! | 08:38 |
| rvchila | morning! | 10:24 |
| AutoStatic | goodmorning | 10:33 |
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| rvchila | good afternoom | 19:58 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: yup it is | 20:00 |
| rvchila | how is going on ? | 20:01 |
| abstrakt | fine | 20:01 |
| astraljava | abstrakt: Btw. I am presently installing from a USB stick created from an alternate install .iso, so Ubuntu Studio might work out the same. | 20:06 |
| abstrakt | astraljava: ? | 20:07 |
| astraljava | abstrakt: :D | 20:07 |
| abstrakt | astraljava: i can make live USB images out of the regular installers | 20:07 |
| abstrakt | but i haven't been able to get a live usb of studio to work for me | 20:07 |
| abstrakt | of course i haven't tried doing anything more than using Fedora LiveUSB Creator | 20:07 |
| astraljava | abstrakt: Ahh... then I _totally_ misunderstood you in the first place. :) Sorry. | 20:07 |
| abstrakt | works like a charm for vanilla 9.10 and 10.04 discs | 20:07 |
| abstrakt | in fact i just did a LiveUSB install of 10.04 last night | 20:08 |
| astraljava | abstrakt: Somehow my {eyes|mind} left out the 'live' part. :D | 20:08 |
| abstrakt | astraljava: yeh i duno if there's some other stoftware for creating non-live USB images, maybe | 20:09 |
| abstrakt | astraljava: i mean, the Ubuntu live images let you either run the installer or run the live OS | 20:09 |
| abstrakt | take your pick | 20:09 |
| abstrakt | i just ran the installer, worked fine | 20:09 |
| abstrakt | but the alternate ones are text-based installer only | 20:09 |
| abstrakt | no live | 20:09 |
| astraljava | Ok. Understood. | 20:09 |
| holstein | hey guys | 21:02 |
| holstein | check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuServerFlashDriveInstaller | 21:02 |
| holstein | FireCrotch posted that the other day in here | 21:02 |
| holstein | said that a bootable USB stick was made to install ubuntustudio from that same tutorial | 21:03 |
| * holstein has not tried it yet | 21:03 | |
| holstein | astraljava abstrakt ^^ | 21:03 |
| abstrakt | holstein: awesome thanks | 21:04 |
| abstrakt | holstein: for now it appears that i don't really need the defacto studio distribution | 21:04 |
| abstrakt | holstein: i just installed 10.04 64 bit (regular, not studio) last night | 21:04 |
| abstrakt | and it works great actually | 21:04 |
| holstein | i think i still prefer that | 21:05 |
| abstrakt | holstein: actually i basically solved my problem twice over. for one, i bought a 100' ethernet cable so i'm not even using the wireless card | 21:05 |
| holstein | the upgade method | 21:05 |
| abstrakt | so there won't be any conflicts with restricted drivesr | 21:05 |
| holstein | abstrakt: nice | 21:05 |
| abstrakt | but i also | 21:05 |
| abstrakt | figured out that i don't need the RT kernel :) | 21:05 |
| holstein | and the speed and relaibility is better with a wire too | 21:05 |
| abstrakt | or at least figured out how to get away with not using the RT kernel | 21:05 |
| holstein | nice | 21:05 |
| abstrakt | holstein: yeah actually latency is lower | 21:05 |
| holstein | if you dont need it, you dont ned it | 21:05 |
| holstein | need* | 21:06 |
| abstrakt | indeed, apparently i don't | 21:06 |
| holstein | i need it | 21:06 |
| abstrakt | holstein: oh? what do you use it for then? | 21:06 |
| holstein | with my interface and my set-up | 21:06 |
| holstein | i get MUCH better latency | 21:06 |
| holstein | and no xruns | 21:06 |
| abstrakt | holstein: which interface? | 21:06 |
| holstein | presonus firepod | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | holstein: oh | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | you don't really need the RT kernel for that though do you? | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | just for the firepod | 21:07 |
| holstein | not really | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | i have a firepod | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | it has the headphone/line out | 21:07 |
| holstein | just to get low latency | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | which is zero latency | 21:07 |
| holstein | when overdubbing | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | yeh but the monitor outs are zero latency | 21:07 |
| holstein | and no xruns | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | but ardour already accounts for the latency | 21:07 |
| holstein | tracking 8 tracks at once | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | and moves your tracks into place for you | 21:07 |
| holstein | abstrakt: so im told | 21:08 |
| abstrakt | you don't use ardour? | 21:08 |
| holstein | BUT i get no lag with softsynths either | 21:08 |
| * holstein uses ardour | 21:08 | |
| holstein | and i usually mix with a lower latency setting | 21:08 |
| holstein | BUT now, i can use rakarrack for real-time effects | 21:09 |
| holstein | with out any lag | 21:09 |
| holstein | and MIDI too | 21:09 |
| abstrakt | you mean jackrack? | 21:10 |
| abstrakt | i'm not sure how mixing with a "lower latency setting" means anything | 21:11 |
| abstrakt | anyway, i do all my monitoring through the headphone jack, which is zero latency | 21:11 |
| holstein | abstrakt: i meant a higher latency | 21:11 |
| holstein | more relaxed settings to mix | 21:11 |
| holstein | because the lag doesnt matter so much | 21:11 |
| abstrakt | are you playing a physical/outboard/hardware MIDI keyboard? | 21:11 |
| holstein | rakarrack is kinda like jackrack in a way | 21:12 |
| abstrakt | cuz if you are, you don't need jack midi | 21:12 |
| holstein | its nice | 21:12 |
| abstrakt | you should just use ALSA midi | 21:12 |
| holstein | abstrakt: yeah, i know, but i like to route with JACK while im using the synths | 21:12 |
| abstrakt | cuz otherwise your midi will be stuck on whatever latency jack audio is stuck with | 21:12 |
| holstein | and it works well | 21:12 |
| abstrakt | holstein: route the MIDI with jack while you're using the synths? | 21:12 |
| abstrakt | cuz you can still route the jack audio | 21:12 |
| holstein | hmmm | 21:13 |
| holstein | i think thats how im doing it | 21:13 |
| holstein | i just route it in Qjack | 21:13 |
| holstein | and i think thats just a connections bay for that right? | 21:13 |
| abstrakt | holstein: do you have 'seq' selected under MIDI in qjackctl ? | 21:13 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 21:13 |
| holstein | id have to look | 21:14 |
| abstrakt | yeah you don't need to have jack running in order to use the ALSA connection stuff | 21:14 |
| holstein | it 'just worked' | 21:14 |
| abstrakt | ALSA midi that is | 21:14 |
| holstein | and i didnt mess with it | 21:14 |
| abstrakt | there's three tabs in the connections | 21:14 |
| rvchila | anyone know when ardour 3 will be realeased ? | 21:14 |
| abstrakt | ALSA, MIDI, and Audio | 21:14 |
| holstein | yeah/ | 21:14 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: ask #ardour | 21:14 |
| rvchila | thanks | 21:14 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: the answer is "don't ask when ardour 3 will be released" | 21:14 |
| holstein | and my MIDI connections that i use are under the ALSA tab | 21:14 |
| rvchila | why ? | 21:14 |
| abstrakt | holstein: oh ok well then you're fine | 21:14 |
| holstein | abstrakt: COOL :) | 21:15 |
| abstrakt | holstein: and you probably don't need the RT kernel | 21:15 |
| holstein | probably not | 21:15 |
| holstein | but thats how i role :) | 21:15 |
| abstrakt | holstein: you can still use the JACK MIDI to route MIDI from application to application | 21:15 |
| holstein | lol | 21:15 |
| abstrakt | holstein: for which there is zero latency | 21:15 |
| holstein | roll* | 21:15 |
| abstrakt | holstein: for hardware though you want to do it with ALSA | 21:15 |
| abstrakt | otherwise you'll be stuck on whatever latency jack audio is on | 21:15 |
| holstein | rvchila: i dont know if there is an offical date yet | 21:15 |
| holstein | did you check the site? | 21:16 |
| abstrakt | holstein: so like if you want to connect e.g. rosegarden to hexter | 21:16 |
| holstein | i think theres an alpha or beta of ardour 3.x | 21:16 |
| rvchila | yes, there is a svn version | 21:16 |
| abstrakt | holstein: using JACK, there will be zero latency, because it's software-to-software | 21:16 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: yeah there's a beta | 21:16 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: basically Ardour 3 has MIDI support | 21:16 |
| abstrakt | dunno what all kind of midi support it has, but it has it | 21:16 |
| rvchila | for this reason i would like it | 21:16 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: but there's already rosegarden | 21:16 |
| abstrakt | so in a way it's almost redundant | 21:17 |
| abstrakt | we'll see though, i have faith that las will make it good | 21:17 |
| rvchila | i have seriously problems with rosegarden ( sorry i´m spanish and i don´t know much english enough ) | 21:17 |
| holstein | rvchila: theres an interview with paul davis at.. | 21:17 |
| holstein | http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ | 21:17 |
| holstein | its been a while though | 21:17 |
| rvchila | my rosegarden crash every time i load it | 21:17 |
| holstein | hmmm | 21:18 |
| holstein | i hate to talk about another distro here | 21:18 |
| abstrakt | holstein: try it without the RT kernel :) | 21:18 |
| holstein | but the musix guys are mostly spanish speaking | 21:18 |
| rvchila | traverso or qtractor, they need, for me, a stretch | 21:18 |
| abstrakt | holstein: i had issues with rosegarden crashing also | 21:18 |
| * holstein too | 21:19 | |
| abstrakt | yeh | 21:19 |
| abstrakt | i'll try to double confirm whether or not this is still an issue for me tonight | 21:19 |
| rvchila | but i mean in the first moment when i load | 21:19 |
| * holstein would trust an ardour beta release though | 21:19 | |
| holstein | those guys are ACTIVE | 21:19 |
| rvchila | just i click rosegarden, and crash, i have to kill this pid | 21:19 |
| abstrakt | yeah they are active | 21:19 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: are you on ubuntu studio? | 21:19 |
| rvchila | yep, exactly 10.04 | 21:20 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: 9.10? 10.04? 32 bit? 64 bit? | 21:20 |
| rvchila | 64 bits | 21:20 |
| abstrakt | k | 21:20 |
| rvchila | with rt kernel | 21:20 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: try it without the RT kernel | 21:20 |
| * abstrakt actually can't see a reason that the RT kernel is useful anymore ... :/ | 21:20 | |
| rvchila | i will try | 21:20 |
| rvchila | but first i will have to learn how is work ardour | 21:21 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: i was using it for MIDI, but apparently it's better to just use ALSA for MIDI | 21:21 |
| holstein | the RT kernel crashes quite a few things i think | 21:21 |
| abstrakt | holstein: yeah it does | 21:21 |
| holstein | zynaddsubfx | 21:21 |
| holstein | lmms? | 21:21 |
| abstrakt | yeah it crashes zyn for sure | 21:21 |
| abstrakt | and rosegarden | 21:21 |
| rvchila | you mean rt kernel on ubuntu 10.04 ? | 21:21 |
| holstein | RG | 21:21 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: i mean any RT kernel | 21:22 |
| holstein | the RT kernel in gerneral | 21:22 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: the RT kernel is not specific to ubuntu | 21:22 |
| rvchila | for example, on 9.10 i hadn´t got problems | 21:22 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: fedora has an RT kernel available in Planet CCRMA | 21:22 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: 9.10 32 bit? 64 bit? 9.10 with the rt kernel? non-rt kernel? | 21:22 |
| rvchila | 9,10 64 bits with rt kernel | 21:22 |
| rvchila | i just did the upgrade | 21:22 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: did you do an "upgrade" or did you do a full/fressh install? | 21:23 |
| rvchila | upgrade | 21:23 |
| rvchila | i will try to install normal kernel | 21:24 |
| abstrakt | rvchila: ahh, i always do a fresh install | 21:26 |
| rvchila | but will i have to change the limits conf ? | 21:26 |
| rvchila | in case i use the normal kernel stuff ? | 21:26 |
| abstrakt | no those limit clauses don't affect anything | 21:27 |
| abstrakt | if you're not running RT anyway | 21:27 |
| abstrakt | it just gives your user *permission* to run as realtime | 21:27 |
| abstrakt | doesn't mean you are or have to run realtime | 21:27 |
| rvchila | ok, understood | 21:28 |
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