[00:13] <judgen> Hi, how do i end all power savings measures in xfce... it pisses me off to hafve to ask the nurse to move the mouse every now and then to let me continue to watch the browns.
[00:44] <judgen> wow this chanel is dead..
[00:44] <judgen> =P
[00:56] <knome> judgen, no, this channel is for user support, and because xubuntu is so perfect, nobody has anything to ask!
[00:58] <knome> judgen, anyway, check applications » settings » settings manager » power manager
[01:29] <judgen> cant find it knome
[01:29] <judgen> well i find the power manager.
[01:30] <judgen> but i cant disable the screen from going black when i do notthing for a while
[01:31] <judgen> i must say though, that i love thunar
[03:49] <Shy> Ok. I have a question. What exactly do I need to install xubuntu on a flash drive?
[04:19] <judgen> Shy, an answer is slow to come
[04:20] <judgen> but i would say, start with installing the netboot install+ eventual drivers if you need them.
[04:21] <judgen> after that you just use "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[04:21] <judgen> then you have a xubuntu on a stick
[04:21] <Shy> hrm ok thx :)
[04:28] <judgen> Shy,  this channel is very slow, and i am happy to have atleast done some good,
[04:28] <Shy> hehehe, well I dont want to burst your bubble or anything but I dont quite know what you mean by anything you said. I downloaded netboot; thats as far as I got.
[04:29] <judgen> when the channel heats up though, it would be alot faster.
[04:29] <judgen> only me not afk at the moment
[04:29] <Shy> hehehe
[04:29] <Shy> Does the channel ever heat up?
[04:29] <judgen> do you have an iso called nerboot.iso or simial ~12mb
[04:30] <judgen> or in american english approchisomething
[04:30] <Shy> The only files I have that I know I need so far are...
[04:30] <Shy> unetbootin-windows-471.exe , and xubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:31] <judgen> oh, you have a booted xubuntu usb stick?
[04:31] <Shy> no.
[04:31] <judgen> no that is not right
[04:31] <judgen> just download the, wiat ill url you.
[04:32] <Shy> I am on windows right now. I want to put xubuntu on usb thing. xD
[04:32] <judgen> ok
[04:32] <Shy> and I am total noob, I hope that clarifies everything that you need to know to help me lmao
[04:33] <judgen> do you have an spare blank cd-r disk or do you intend to install it from within something else?
[04:33] <Shy> I have a cd-r if I need one
[04:34] <judgen> also do you have a recent computer that supports 64bit (since about 1999 opteron and later, and intel: almost there but stil needed since 1009)
[04:34] <judgen> 2009
[04:35] <Shy> why would the computer need 64 bit?
[04:35] <judgen> One last question would be, and this is important!: Are you usgin a wireless network to INSTALL the sytem.
[04:36] <judgen> for the 64bit version it would, but im just making sure.
[04:36] <judgen> to give you the correct link
[04:36] <Shy> I do, have a system, but I want to be able to move the 'system' from machine to machine
[04:36] <Shy> and no to the wireless
[04:37] <judgen> Do you have a non-wireless system that has broadband connection (this will not hamper your current installation)
[04:37] <Shy> yes
[04:37] <judgen> if it is 64bit, http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[04:38] <Shy> if I use that, will any computer be able to use the xubuntu installtion?
[04:38] <judgen> bot from the cd, and partition the usb drive like you would a regular hard drive
[04:38] <judgen> boot*
[04:39] <judgen> install (would take about 10 min if you are using US cable or faster)
[04:40] <judgen> after that just issue the command after login "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" and you will have the entire xubuntu on your flash drive.
[04:40] <judgen> Do not create a swap partition though, that will waste your write cycles.
[04:41] <Shy> whats a swap partition?
[04:41] <judgen> make only a / partition of it all
[04:41] <judgen> you wil have to raly on the ram on the host computer instead.
[04:41] <judgen> you dont have to worry about thatm as you will be using the curses install, just make the entire space /
[04:43] <judgen> .     / is like the mase of the filesystem, like the windows equivalent of %systembase%
[04:43] <judgen> basic directory*
[04:43] <judgen> damn im drunk, i cant even spell.
[04:43] <Shy> ~cough~ your starting to confuse me and still didnt asnwer my other question
 if it is 64bit, http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
 if I use that, will any computer be able to use the xubuntu installtion?
[04:44] <judgen> YES!
[04:44] <Shy> Ok. lmao
[04:44] <Shy> not just x64?!?!
[04:44] <judgen> after the isnstall just make sure you write the grub loader to the USB drive and you will be fine
[04:44] <Shy> ok.
[04:45] <Shy> Im going to print this just incase I forget all that lmao
[04:45] <judgen> the x32 mahines will not run the x64 version, no.
[04:45] <Shy> x.x
[04:45] <Shy> I need a version that will allow alllllll the machines to run this
[04:45] <judgen> aaah let me url it for you.
[04:46] <judgen> thaqt 12mb iso only include wired networking drivers. so untill you install the xubuntu package: you dont have wireless... just wnt to let you know that.
[04:46] <Shy> I dont need wireless right away
[04:47] <judgen> Shy, http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso is the url for the x32 version
[04:47] <judgen> and it runs on pretty much anything that isnt completley strange
[04:47] <Shy> hrm k
[04:48] <judgen> Shy, do you install on the computer that you are running at the moment, or are you able to chat to me through the process if you have any problems?
[04:49] <Shy> Uhm if I can install using a virtual machine, onto a physical usb thing, then i can chat with you
[04:49] <Shy> otherwise prob not
[04:49] <Shy> ill try using virtualbox
[04:49] <judgen> that would be preferable.
[04:51] <judgen> Also the BIOS of hte machine you are booting from must be 2003 or older. since good usb2 speeds are not available before that and also your bios must support the notion of booting from usb (wich most of them do)
[04:51] <judgen> newer
[04:51] <judgen> damn
[04:51] <judgen> im too retarded at he momen
[04:51] <judgen> newer than 2003 i ment
[04:51] <Shy> thats to use the thing right?
[04:52] <judgen> and that means working with OHCI and thus intel's version is a bit later...
[04:52] <judgen> yes you still have to have boot order in the bios to boot from it.
[04:53] <judgen> pretty simple.
[04:53] <judgen> my little:est sister (25 years younger than me) can do it, so i guess you can to =D
[04:54] <Shy> Yeah, but dont forget I am being directed by a drunk guy.
[04:54] <judgen> yeah that does not help.. atleast not much
[04:54] <judgen> Atleast im trying =D
[04:55] <judgen> when you boot it should be recognized and you should just pick it as / and then after install you should just run "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" and you will be fin
[04:56] <judgen> just make sure during the colourful install that you write the bootloader to you usb drive and NOT to your current HDD drive..
[04:57] <Shy> ok sooo
[04:57] <Shy> I started the virtual system with the iso in it.
[04:57] <judgen> ok nice
[04:57] <Shy> i got a  black and white or grey screen saying
[04:57] <Shy> iso linux
[04:57] <Shy> blah blah
[04:57] <Shy> then boot: _
[04:57] <Shy> What now?
[04:57] <judgen> write cli>press enter>
[04:58] <Shy> cli?
[04:58] <judgen> yes
[04:58] <judgen> command line interface
[04:59] <judgen> hello!
[04:59] <Shy> trying to do the keyboard thing
[04:59] <judgen> ? keybard thing?
[05:00] <Shy> yeah. i selected langauge
[05:00] <Shy> then it asked me to select keyboard
[05:00] <judgen> aah
[05:00] <judgen> just pick en-uk you can edit htat later if you want. it is just for the installation
[05:01] <Shy> ok. it wants me to configure the network
[05:01] <Shy> does it matter what hostname i put?
[05:01] <judgen> pick the correct timezone though to get better speeds on the net downloads
[05:01] <judgen> no
[05:01] <judgen> my computers hostnames are all decepticons from the animated series
[05:02] <judgen> i have been doing that since 1987 and i wont change it onw =D
[05:02] <judgen> now*
[05:02] <Shy> lol
[05:02] <Shy> well i guess its doing something
[05:02] <Shy> it looked like it was downloading something
[05:02] <Shy> or such
[05:03] <Shy> and now its blue screen
[05:03] <Shy> with grey bar at bottom
[05:03] <Shy> with some black
[05:03] <judgen> kinda brings my programming skills to a bba moment... but yeah.
[05:03] <judgen> yeah the speed depends on your internet connection
[05:03] <Shy> ..couldnt I of just used the iso I downloaded via the torrent?
[05:03] <Shy> lmao
[05:04] <judgen> i run at a 1000/1000mbit univ system so i dont personaly have to bother with bandwith.
[05:04] <Shy> O.O
[05:04] <Shy> Ok you are just bragging now.
[05:04] <judgen> a little, but not the pint.
[05:04] <judgen> Sorry
[05:05] <judgen> point
[05:05] <Shy> now it wants me to configure that clock.
[05:05] <judgen> pick your timezone. it IS important.
[05:05] <Shy> and it guessed right.
[05:05] <judgen> good
[05:06] <Shy> Ok now it says partition disks
[05:06] <judgen> the god part about this install is that you dont HAVE to install xubuntu-desktop. You can install just whaqt you need.
[05:06] <judgen> pick "ALL" of it ti be /
[05:06] <judgen> to
[05:07] <judgen> NO swap or your flash drive will die
[05:07] <Shy> Uhm what method should I do?
[05:07] <Shy> guided - use entire?
[05:07] <judgen> just as it does when you use xp on a flash
[05:07] <judgen> manual
[05:07] <Shy> k
[05:08] <judgen> take it all and make it ext4 if possible or reiserfs if you use alot of vermy small files
[05:08] <judgen> and by small i mean 8kb or less.
[05:09] <Shy> what does configure iscsi volumes mean?
[05:09] <Shy> I have 3 options.
[05:09] <Shy> guided partitioning
[05:09] <Shy> configure
[05:09] <Shy> the one with the virtual hard drive
[05:09] <judgen> dont bother, if you can find the usb drive it is all good
[05:09] <Shy> I cant.
[05:09] <Shy> It dont see it listed
[05:09] <judgen> are you using vmware?
[05:09] <Shy> virtualbox
[05:11] <judgen> hmmm. i havent tried VT out that muich. but i know it lacks some basic stuff in the ground. You could thy booting from the cd and run the process all the way untill partitioning to srr if you get signal ( eargerly waiting for an aybabtu reference)
[05:12] <judgen> thus you will not ruin anything at all
[05:12] <judgen> as it wont touch your data
[05:12] <Shy> hrm k
[05:13] <judgen> Or if you have ubuntu allready installed, i think there is an app for making slow and crappy usb drives =P
[05:13] <judgen> just kidding, it is decent atleast
[05:14] <judgen> btw i forgot to ask how large is your usb stick, AND does it follow standards so that it can be booted from?
[05:15]  * Shy shrugs
[05:15] <Shy> No idea.
[05:15] <Shy> Its a brand name..
[05:15] <Shy> san disk
[05:15] <Shy> cruzer micro or something
[05:16] <Shy> Well. I found out why It didnt show up.
[05:16] <judgen> sandisk are usually very god at following standards and doing it well.
[05:17] <Shy> Virtualbox says "state: unsupported"
[05:17] <judgen> unless you bought it as a part of a compq sale
[05:17] <Shy> when i click the little usb thing
[05:18] <judgen> yes becaus you can not still runa proper x64 system in vt in either paralells or vmware.
[05:18] <judgen> even though the host is 6bit
[05:18] <Shy> but its not x64 system im trying to run
[05:20] <judgen> reiterate the åroblem of late.... i am very very drunk
[05:20] <Shy> lmao
[05:20] <Shy> just wondering, how old are you?
[05:20] <judgen> 35
[05:20] <Shy> Ah ok :)
[05:21] <judgen> does  that matter?
[05:21] <Shy> No :P I just wanted to be able to picture the fake you in my head at the right age.
[05:22] <Shy> I was picturing you like 50 or something, and it was quite amusing. Now its a little bit more realistic
[05:22] <judgen> fake or fate?
[05:22] <Shy> fake.
[05:22] <judgen> oh i am sorry, english is also my fifth language.
[05:22] <Shy> O.O
[05:23] <Shy> Where do you live, hahaha :D
[05:23] <judgen> Sweden
[05:23] <Shy> lmao. figures.
[05:23] <Shy> All the tech savy irc people are from there :P
[05:24] <judgen> I speak Pijt, Swedish, noregian, german and english as first languages... most paople only do three or so.
[05:25] <judgen> nah they arent. the gods of coding is usually invisible, but from germany,
[05:26] <judgen> 'garmany has surpassed china in exports now... im kinda scared =D
[05:26] <Shy> :O really?
[05:27] <judgen> what happened last time germany was the largest... nap wars, ww1,ww2 and so om.
[05:27] <judgen> on**
[05:28] <judgen> the us has 1/13th of german exports now... the trade differentiates have never been bigger.
[05:28] <judgen> Oh i ment in revenue NOT in tonnage.
[05:29] <Shy> :o
[05:30] <judgen> There so muc i love about the americans, (especially the people) but why cant  a ton be just that.... nooo ab imperial ton is 900kilo's adn decimal  when rest of the world uses 1ton is 1ton=1000kg=1000000g and so on
[05:31] <judgen> in tonnage the US OWNS germany bu about 2/3s
[05:31] <Shy> :o
[05:31] <judgen> I blame the brittish
[05:32] <judgen> the americans woul be using the metric system if sweden still held delaware and france the lui's territoies.
[05:33] <Shy> standard all the way
[05:33] <Shy> \o\
[05:33] <judgen> The US prooved with out a doubt that colonization is good.
[05:34] <judgen> Standards are good
[05:35] <judgen> the only reason that imp system of measurements still lives is because of the US.. Even the country that it originated from is abandoning it and claiming it  silly and incomprehensible.
[05:36] <judgen> I mean who knows how many liters there is to a hogshead
[05:36] <judgen> or how many km there is to a furlong...
[05:36] <judgen> i just dont get it.
[05:36] <Shy> how many miles are in a km?
[05:36] <Shy> ;\
[05:37] <judgen> there is 1.6km in a km
[05:37] <judgen> how many miles in a metric mile?
[05:37] <Shy> Dont confuse me.
[05:38] <judgen> a imp mile is 1.6, is what i ment to say
[05:38] <judgen> how many miles on a metric mile?
[05:38] <Shy> I think someone had a little bit much to drink, and should prob consider going to bed, dont you think judgen?
[05:39] <judgen> yes i will leave it if you can answer the question =)
[05:39] <oren> i got GeForce 6200. i installed glx-180 and glx-185. when running nvidia-setting i am told i don't use nvidia X driver and advice me to install nvidia-xconfig but I can't find this package. advice?
[05:39] <judgen> oren, just try alktering the xorg
[05:39] <judgen> altering
[05:40] <judgen> Shy, so, how many miles does it take to make a metric mile=
[05:40] <judgen> ?
[05:40] <oren> judgen: i never had to do that in the past and i don't know what to change.
[05:41] <oren> i also want to have support for 2 monitores,
[05:41] <Shy> whats  a metric mile?
[05:41] <judgen> oren, what resolution are you using as main
[05:41] <Shy> a km?
[05:41] <judgen> oren,  i had the same problem, so i fixed it.
[05:41] <judgen> Shy, no
[05:42] <judgen> a metric mile is 10km
[05:42] <oren> judgen: i don't know. one is 29", the other 15
[05:42] <judgen> everything is decimal... lol
[05:42] <judgen> oren, i ment resolution
[05:42] <Shy> x.x ok well im going to bed. Thanks for the help judgen. Dont confuse oren too much with your drunkness.
[05:42] <Shy> cya
[05:43] <judgen> Shy, have a lovely night
[05:43] <Shy> u 2
[05:43] <oren> judgen: i don't know
[05:44] <judgen> oren, my attention span is kinda limited due to a large amount of alcohol. but i'll do my best.
[05:45] <oren> judgen: (-:
[05:45] <oren> np
[05:46] <judgen> oren, could you run "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:47] <judgen> and check if there is anything strrange
[05:48] <judgen> otherwise, tell me your resolution, your gfx chip amd your screen and i could probablt write an xorg .cong for ye.
[05:49] <oren> judgen: before we dive into xorg, don't we want to make sure i have the relevant packages? this desktop worked with 2 monitors all the time. i recently install lubuntu lucid and that's where i had this issue.
[05:52] <judgen> I have to leave.. i fell on my girlfriend and now she wants carnal relations,,, i cant help you any more,
[05:53] <judgen> my mail is judgen@gmail.com and judge@googledev.com
[05:54] <oren> judgen: ok, no worries..
[05:54] <judgen> i'll help you tomorrow, but my drunkeness will do more bad than marm at this pinot.
[05:55] <judgen> If she gets pregnaint again, i promis i will get a visectomy... and i leave you with those wise words. LOL
[15:49] <pog> I just tryed a 10.04 live cd on a sony vaio vgn S1xp.  It's strange that a application is flickering and opening and closing an application. I didn't find which process I have to stop or kill.
[15:51] <pog> I killed X-Session, but the next start had the same behavior. But I could open a terminal, and release a command (while the other prozess opened an closes Windows)
[17:50] <ancarius> hello everyone
[17:50] <ancarius> can anybody help me?
[17:50] <Sysi> ask
[17:51] <ancarius> so...i downloaded ubuntu just now, tried booting off the CD but it wouldn't load. the sucker freezes on me at the loading screen
[17:51] <ancarius> any ideas why?
[17:51] <ancarius> i'm running off an MSI dual core laptop
[17:52] <ancarius> tried both the x86 and x64 distros
[17:53] <ancarius> and probably should mention that i already have windows on it
[17:55] <ancarius> anyone?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> at what loading screen?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> Do the dots quit flashing?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> did it pass the cd integrity check?
[18:27] <razer> yeah...sorru
[18:27] <razer> *sorry....my net froze up
[18:28] <razer> yes, the dots quit flashing
[18:28] <razer> i get 5 out of 6 dots
[18:28] <razer> and my cooler whirls up so i'm guessing it
[18:28] <razer> it's eating up my CPU
[18:32] <razer> has anybody else had this error? did anyone find a solution? i found a remix with an intel driver upgrade 855gm. any comments on it?
[18:36] <Aquina> Sysi, do you have got an idea hy my ".config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml" of a hardy installation on virtualBox gets always overwritten after each restart?
[18:37] <Sysi> no
[20:21] <gothenburg> Whats the name of the default theme in xubuntu and can I download it somewhere?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> albatross is the theme, check with #shimmer to see if it is available
[20:23] <gothenburg> this theme? http://chaostech.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/xubntu1004install1.png
[20:24] <charlie-tca> It is called albatross
[20:24] <gothenburg> ok
[20:24] <charlie-tca> the people who built it hang out in #shimmer on irc
[20:24] <gothenburg> ok
[20:24] <charlie-tca> Sometimes they hang out here, too
[20:25] <gothenburg> :)
[20:29] <knome> hi gothenburg, charlie-tca :)
[20:30] <knome> charlie-tca, http://shimmerproject.org/projects/albatross/ for the direct link and latest downloads
[20:30] <charlie-tca> I couldn't remember it, but I knew who could!
[20:32] <knome> :)
[20:36] <gothenburg> thank you
[22:22] <gothenburg> :)
[22:22] <gothenburg> got it right
[22:32] <tycho> gothenburg : eru go elle'?!
[22:33] <gothenburg> tycho: de e la mysigt!