/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/12/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

=== ZachK- is now known as zkriesse
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bizarro-paultagclassy as hell00:16
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aveilleuxUm, what00:19
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chris411this working?03:17
DarkwingDuckIt is chris411 what can we do for ya?03:17
zkriesseHey DarkwingDuck congrats my Mann03:17
DarkwingDuckThanks Zach... It got better too...03:18
zkriessechris411: Whats the issue(s) you're having?03:18
zkriesseDarkwingDuck: What got better?03:18
DarkwingDuckzkriesse: see PM03:18
chris411I'm seeking some help with  Ubu getting stuck on the login srceen - I have seen its a recent common problem but unsure to use the terminal window commands03:18
chris411I had some help last night but had to log off as getting too late!03:19
chris411The person helped me create a backup of my home folder, but got stuck with creating 2 extra home folders somehow!03:20
DarkwingDuckSo, when you login Ubuntu it freezes at the login screen?03:22
chris411can get into the "consul" at the graphical login screen...03:22
chris411no not freeze - "loops" after selecting user and pwd03:23
DarkwingDuckWhat happens when you type in the command startx ?03:23
chris411make sense?03:23
chris411hold on03:23
aveilleuxchris411: sudo startx03:24
DarkwingDuckGnome makes you use sudo?03:24
chris411yeh that might help03:24
* DarkwingDuck mutters something about KDE03:25
aveilleuxdarkwingduck: of course you do O_O03:25
DarkwingDuck:P03:26
aveilleuxI've never seen you able to startx without root permissions03:26
chris411whole bunch of error mssgs - inlc timeout in locking authority file - will try the command with sudo03:27
chris411same again03:28
chris411xauth created a new authority in /home/chris03:30
DarkwingDuckWho helped you last time and what did they have you do?03:30
chris411make /home/chris into chris.bak folder03:31
chris411create another /home/chris and used chown command but may have "muffed" this?03:32
DarkwingDuckThis is 10.04 correct?03:32
chris411yes - however i have dual boot on grub menu - Xubuntu hpld first places03:33
chris411holds 1st few places03:34
chris411Xubuntu was installed after ubu 10.04 and stole first placement on th egrub table03:35
DarkwingDuckYOu trying to log into Xubuntu or Gnome?03:35
DarkwingDuckUbuntu03:35
chris411Ubu 10.0403:35
chris411latest updates were installed for both then problem occured03:36
DarkwingDuckReboot it and when you get to the login screen hold there. Let me know when you get there.03:36
chris411ok at grub menu03:39
chris411at login screen for Ubu 10.04 latest kernal03:41
DarkwingDuckOkay, look on the login screen where you can choose your Desktop Environment03:42
DarkwingDuckI'm going from memory so, I'm not sure where it is exactly. If someone else can help me out with that.03:42
aveilleuxBottom-right03:42
zkriesseaveilleux: Good Jon03:43
zkriesse"job03:43
DarkwingDuckthanks aveilleux03:43
aveilleuxYou're welcome o_O03:43
DarkwingDuckchris411: Bottom right, select GNOME and try to log in.03:43
chris411sessions option N/a03:44
* DarkwingDuck raises an eyebrow03:44
DarkwingDuckzkriesse: You following this?03:44
chris411Universal access prefs?03:45
zkriesseSort of why03:45
DarkwingDuckLogin problems and I'm stuck going from 2 year old memory using gnome03:45
zkriesseOk so what's wrong chris41103:46
chris411bottom line is - langauge - keyboard - sessions - far right Uni Access but looks like stuff used for the blind!!03:46
zkriessechris411: What error(s) are you having03:47
DarkwingDuckSessions03:47
chris411as i mention session not avail, down aarrow not active03:47
zkriesseAre you dualbooting two OS's or are you running03:48
zkriesseUbuntu with a different DE along side GNOME03:49
chris411dual os - as I understand it03:49
chris411both OS give same result - login screen, select user ok key in pwd ok then login loops back to empty values03:50
DarkwingDuckxubuntu and ubuntu03:50
chris411yes03:50
zkriesseOk so did you install ubuntu and then stick In a different os disk and install that too?03:50
chris411yes03:50
zkriesseOr did you install Ubuntu and then install the XFCE DE03:50
chris411ohhh now ya asking, I had Ubu for a long time and updated, I wanted to test another version soo loaded Xu on diff parttion03:52
zkriesseBecause if you installed them side by side the. You have to go in the boot menu to choose which os to boot into03:52
chris411the Xu stole 1st plce via install and I wanted to edit the grub menu, but never got to that point, since 10.04 used a new file and location i believe03:53
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chris411last thing i was doinf was changing fonts on header bars in Ubu and rebooted and nothing was able to login, neither any prior kernal versions03:55
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zkriesseHmm03:56
chris411I burned a 10.04 onto disk - does that help reset anything or totally foul up my folders and data!!03:56
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acerimmerchris411: burning an iso doesn't change your hdd03:58
chris411how about running it and reinstalling?03:58
chris411sorry thats what i ment03:59
aveilleuxchris411: That'll overwrite everything o_O03:59
acerimmerchris411: backup your /home make sure you get the hidden folders as well.03:59
acerimmerunless you have a dedicated and separate /home it will get rewritten03:59
chris411eew04:00
zkriessechris411: Back up your personal/pertinent data, reinstall ubuntu, and then do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" without quotes04:00
chris411)-:04:00
aveilleuxchris411: Well that's how it works04:00
chris411mm04:00
zkriesseThat will install the xubuntu desktop environment on ubuntu so at startup you can choose between them04:01
zkriessechris411: ^^04:01
chris411I would rather sacrifice Xubu04:01
acerimmer!panels04:02
ubot2To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »04:02
chris411if I run the 10.04 on CD can I see my files in the existing 10.04?04:05
aveilleuxchris411: Yes04:05
chris411then I couls have an option to off load to a flash or burn to a backup disk?04:06
zkriessechris411: I believe so my friend04:07
chris411ok - (sigh - knowing how many files there are to BU)04:08
chris411havn a peek with Live CD - Thanks folks - enjoy the footy!04:09
stlsaintchrome holding out like a champ04:32
aveilleuxstlsaint: Chrome or chromium?04:33
* aveilleux is formerly Chesamo, stlsaint04:34
stlsaintaye04:34
stlsaintchrome04:34
aveilleuxstlsaint: laaaaame.04:35
* stlsaint is thinking of going back to his love......screen04:35
* stlsaint uses his superior penguin senses to sense the hating illuminating off aveilleux 04:35
aveilleuxstlsaint: Chrome is Google-tained Chromium.04:36
stlsaintmaybe so...but its MY google-tainted chromium browser of choice :P04:36
stlsaintIM BACK05:23
aveilleux:O05:23
greenjonwb stlsaint05:23
stlsaintthank you thank you05:24
pedro3005hey stlsaint05:26
nfearnleyI'm trying to setup a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. They both pair correctly, connect and work. After they are disconnect, they won't reconnect unless I remove the pairing and re-pair them. What can I do to allow them to automatically reconnect?05:35
stlsaintnfearnley: i havent been an advent bluetooth user but i know there are some tools in repos for it05:37
shahangetting very slow internet speed on ubuntu using my wifi. but I was using for this for about one month. it was giving me an excellent support for last 1 month. but now.. what happened I dont know. Its very slow.... but in XP its working good....08:48
leoquantshahan, which version of ubuntu and which wifi encr. do you use? wep. wap or wpa2?08:56
leoquantdid you get troubles after an update?08:57
shahanleoquant: lucid lynx... dont know about wep, wap or wpa208:57
shahanleoquant: ya08:58
leoquantwhich update08:58
leoquantshahan, every wifi connection should be protected with wap or wpa208:59
shahanleoquant: may be mysql client08:59
leoquantshahan, please go to the networkapplet, is you wifi visible?08:59
leoquant(rightclick09:00
leoquantyour09:01
shahanleoquant: yes its visible09:01
leoquantis it "open"or "protected"?09:01
leoquantprotected gives a lock09:02
leoquant(picture)09:02
shahanleoquant: there has no lock picture09:03
leoquantshahan, you should really protect your wifi, everyone could use your wifi connection now09:04
shahanleoquant: I have no further knowledge about wifi09:04
Silver_Fox_Hello mohi111:30
mohi1heya Silver_Fox_ i was having my lunce =]11:49
Silver_Fox_:)11:49
mohi1how are ya Silver_Fox_?11:50
Silver_Fox_Tired mohi1 ,  very tired.11:50
Silver_Fox_How are you ?11:50
mohi1Silver_Fox_, same :D11:50
mohi1Silver_Fox_, how you became tired??11:51
Silver_Fox_~5 hours sleep in 48 hours11:51
Silver_Fox_I am back in UK,  body clock is all wrong11:51
mohi1Silver_Fox_, i slept for 2 hours in the past three days11:51
Silver_Fox_Fun11:51
mohi1lol11:51
mohi1no11:52
Silver_Fox_Why ?11:52
mohi1was talking with my friend =]11:52
mohi1day1: A marriage. Day2: messed up in my native. Day3: chats =]11:53
mohi1Silver_Fox_, how was the trip?11:53
Silver_Fox_Long,  but it was worth going to US11:54
hobgoblinto come home and realise all is well11:54
mohi1hiya hobgoblin =]11:55
mohi1wb shahan. hows the download speed now?11:58
shahanmohi1: same as before11:59
shahanmohi1: I have installed the kernel ... just the previous version of the current11:59
mohi1hmmm Silver_Fox_ and hobgoblin. shahan had a certainly impossible problem. His WiFi slows down in Lucid, but good with windows12:00
mohi1works good*12:00
shahanmohi1: :(12:00
hobgoblinusual thing then - the windows drivers are built properly thr linux ones are built by people working in the dark12:01
mohi1hobgoblin, but it WiFi was working perfect before a week. now only it slowed down12:01
hobgoblinmohi1: no idea really about wifi12:02
mohi1hobgoblin, same here :(12:02
Silver_Fox_Wifi is iffy at best12:02
hobgoblinI would have a good search on the specific wifi hardware and chipset12:03
Silver_Fox_Chipset12:03
hobgoblinsorry - forgot the capital C12:03
hobgoblin;)12:03
Silver_Fox_No worries ;)12:04
mohi1sILVER_fOX_12:04
duanedesign'lo all12:34
Silver_Fox_o/12:38
Silver_Fox_How are you duanedesign12:39
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: good. I have a sick cat though :(12:42
Silver_Fox_Oh no,  whats wrong with it  ?12:42
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: she is sneezing a lot. If she doesn't get better or gets worse i'll have to take her to the vet12:43
Silver_Fox_:(12:45
Silver_Fox_BRB12:45
duanedesignkk12:45
Silver_Fox_Back duanedesign ,  sorry about that.  Since I got back to UK my phone hasn't stopped ringing12:54
Silver_Fox_I hope your cat gets better soon12:54
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: thank you13:29
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: where did go? you said 'back to the UK'? France again?13:30
Silver_Fox_No,  I was in USA for 3 weeks13:30
Silver_Fox_^ duanedesign13:32
duanedesignoh the states, I hope it wasnt vacation, :)13:32
Silver_Fox_Mostly vacation,  but did have a little business to take care of aswell13:33
Silver_Fox_Had a good time and saw plenty of sights,  so thats the main thing13:33
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: where in the states?13:34
Silver_Fox_Quite happy at current sight,  basement cat curled up on the chair13:34
Silver_Fox_:)13:34
Silver_Fox_Missed him13:34
duanedesigni bet13:34
duanedesign3 weeks would be awhile13:34
Silver_Fox_I was based in California13:35
Silver_Fox_Went into Arizona o'course13:35
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: so that was quite a flight13:35
Silver_Fox_And then also down into Mexico13:35
Silver_Fox_Yep,  long flight13:35
Silver_Fox_I think it was 10h on way back13:37
duanedesigngood time to catch up on all that reading you have been meaning to do13:46
Silver_Fox_Well,  truth be told I slept13:47
Silver_Fox_Or at least tried to ;)13:47
Silver_Fox_I just sat in the chair with my eyes closed13:47
Silver_Fox_Didn't actually work13:48
Silver_Fox_LOL13:48
duanedesignSilver_Fox_: yeah pretty big time difference between West Coast and UK13:48
Silver_Fox_8 HOURS13:48
duanedesignIm working on a blog post about interesting ways to use Ubuntu One.13:51
duanedesignso far i have: Create Your Own Browser Start Page, Don't Wait Until You Get Home to download a Torrent. Monitor your Desktop....13:55
iktquitting ma job tomorrow13:55
iktohhh yeah13:55
ikt*starts to sing a happy song*13:55
Silver_Fox_Got a new one ikt  ?13:55
iktnah but it would be easy as pie with my experience to get another one in a similar position14:02
duanedesignwhat is a command to get time?14:07
duanedesignmore specifically, I want to add time to this:    import -frame -strip -quality 100 "$HOME/screenshots/$(date +%s).png"14:07
duanedesignahhdate does return the time :)14:10
Silver_Fox_duanedesign,  date --help14:10
Silver_Fox_:)14:10
Silver_Fox_Don't know which format you want14:10
Silver_Fox_duanedesign,  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/timedate.html14:12
Silver_Fox_Should help14:12
paultagduanedesign, date +"%s"14:19
paultagoh doh14:20
paultagsorry duanedesign, you did it right14:20
Yoswhat is the command to show which graphics card I have ?14:34
duanedesignhello Yos14:35
Yoshi duanedesign :)14:35
Yosgood to see you14:35
duanedesignYos: lspci | grep VGA14:36
YosThanks14:36
duanedesign/5/515:25
hobgoblinsome sort of time signature?15:26
Silver_Fox_date15:26
Silver_Fox_NO...time ?15:26
switchgirltrying to get the ubuntu webbook screen size to go to the size of the screen i have15:46
switchgirleeepc 4g15:46
ibuclawoh hey there switchgirl15:53
ibuclawbeen a while, has it not?15:54
switchgirlyeah16:07
Silver_Fox_How are you doing?  Still working crazy hours ?16:09
duanedesignswitchgirl: it is at a lower resolution than you are expecting?16:13
switchgirlumm tbph  its the windows not fitting16:14
switchgirland wifi not working16:14
* switchgirl hopes that America doesn't launch a nuclear war tonight when they get beat in the world cup16:17
switchgirl*by us (england16:18
duanedesignswitchgirl: i think we are safe, no one in America will even realize they were beat.16:23
duanedesignswitchgirl: did the Asus eeepc fixes page on the wiki help any?16:24
switchgirl_i used to live near Whitehaven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehaven#History :) so.... it's been 300 years but umm we have scores to settle, this time on the football pitch.19:43
ibuclawswitchgirl_, we was robbed. :F20:27
switchgirl_ibuclaw, meh.... they are better than in '2820:28
switchgirl_how to ban a contact in empathy?20:31
switchgirl_block*20:31
aveilleuxswitchgirl_: you can't20:32
switchgirl_aveilleux, why not? i am facing harrasment20:33
switchgirl_i need to block them20:33
aveilleuxswitchgirl_: That program does not have the ability to Block. Use Pidgin if you need to Block.20:34
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switchgirlwhy are ubuntu using it then?20:37
aveilleuxswitchgirl: I don't know. I don't like it either.20:37
aveilleuxswitchgirl: I made my own Ubuntu version just because of that ;-)20:38
switchgirli think it breaks EU directives20:38
aveilleuxswitchgirl: What20:39
switchgirlnot being able to block breaks a few eu directives - if it where commecial20:40
switchgirlie eu law20:41
aveilleuxswitchgirl: http://ubuntu-minimal-desktop.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-umd.html  /shameless_self_promotion20:41
stlsaintaveilleux: are you josh peterson?20:43
aveilleuxstlsaint: Negatory. My name is Anthony Veilleux.20:44
ibuclawaveilleux, you use a script?21:05
ibuclawugh... >..>#21:05
stlsaintibuclaw: ping21:05
ibuclawaveilleux, while I'm not a fan of "script to install software for you", only thing I'll note is that you use aptitude21:06
ibuclawwhich may be removed in 10.10 Desktop edition21:06
ibuclawbut kept in Server21:06
ibuclawstlsaint, word up?21:06
stlsaintibuclaw: i somehow jacked up my sudoers in a fedora vm and im not sure how to fix it?21:07
ibuclawstlsaint, don't you have a root account in Fedora?21:07
stlsaintyes and usually i would just stick with it but i was trying to try and add my user account to it for giggles i guess since i usually just use root21:08
ibuclawstlsaint, so you can't 'su root' ?21:09
stlsainti can do everything as root but i cant sudo anything under my user account (stlsaint)21:10
ibuclawvisudo21:10
aveilleuxibuclaw, removing aptitude? Why?21:10
ibuclawaveilleux, there's an abundance of tools for installing software, and aptitude is a bit of a "power-users" tool anyway.21:11
aveilleuxibuclaw: I know, that's why I use it21:11
ibuclawstlsaint, you should use visudo to edit the sudoers file21:12
stlsaintyea i guess thats route im going to have to take21:12
ibuclawstlsaint, it's the only route you _should_ take. ;)21:12
ibuclawat the bottom of the file:21:13
ibuclawstlsaint ALL=(ALL) ALL21:13
ibuclawif it opens in vi, use :wq to save and quite21:13
ibuclawvisudo will then parse and check the file for errors21:13
ibuclawall checked out, it then writes the file to /etc/sudoers21:14
ZachK_hello Commodore6421:16
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zkriessewelcome cavalliloco21:23
cavallilocoah, hi21:23
zkriessecavalliloco: ask your question here so all may help21:23
cavallilocowell, story goes21:23
cavallilocodownloaded latest release of ubuntu21:24
cavallilocoon lenovo 3000 N20021:24
cavallilocobooted the cs21:24
cavallilococd21:24
aveilleuxcacalliloco: One line, please21:24
stlsaintibuclaw: do you know why a application would be installed but not be read by the OS?21:24
cavallilocohi, I can not install ubuntu on my lenovo 3000 n200, phyton (installer included) throws exceptions, can anyone help or direct me to proper channel?21:24
stlsaintcavalliloco: what error are you getting thats preventing you from installing?21:25
ibuclawstlsaint, what do you mean?21:26
stlsaintibuclaw: im going to post screenshot21:26
cavallilocostlsaint: when I run the installer with -v I get some strane errors from final AB something module21:26
cavallilocostlsaint: did google it, and just got some simillar errors, not same, with patch for python itself that just adds exception handeling21:28
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zkriessesorry21:29
zkriesseinternet cut out on me21:29
cavallilocostlsaint: apart from installer, I've tried also to run sudoku (python as well) with no luck, just exception on different module and different include line (I believe it was os, but not sure)21:30
aveilleuxcavalliloco: Have you tried the ncurses (alternate) installer?21:31
Commodore64ZachK_ hello21:32
cavallilocoaveilleux: ehm no, but, even If I install it, I still need workging python to use it21:32
Commodore64zkriesse: hello21:32
zkriesseCommodore64: And how are you today/what brings ya here?21:33
Commodore64Linux of course brings me here21:33
aveilleuxcavalliloco: Yes but getting Ubuntu running should be a priority21:33
cavallilocoaveilleux: is d-i python?21:34
aveilleuxcavalliloco: I have no idea21:34
cavallilocoaveilleux: k, thanks, I'll try, and come back here if all else fails21:35
stlsaintibuclaw: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/232/parallelserror.png21:35
zkriesseCommodore64: Cool....looking to join any teams?21:36
Commodore64zkriesse: soccer team ? ^^21:36
zkriesseCommodore64: Ubuntu Teams21:37
ibuclawstlsaint, oh... lol21:39
ibuclawkernel sources is not the name of the package =)21:39
Commodore64zkriesse: what are the goals of Ubuntu Teams ?21:39
stlsaint?21:40
ibuclawstlsaint, is it yum install kernel-sourcecode ?21:40
zkriesseCommodore64: Well All of the teams try to promote and advocate the Ubuntu Mission21:40
stlsaintibuclaw: is it kernel-devel?21:40
stlsaintibuclaw: oh sourcescode?21:40
stlsaintibuclaw: i will try21:41
zkriesseCommodore64: but there are many different teams which have a different mission such as the Ubuntu Beginners Team (This Channel)21:41
ibuclawam no ood with fedora package names =)21:41
ibuclaw*good21:41
stlsaintibuclaw: nope, no sourcecode package21:43
stlsaintibuclaw: i know that there is a source-devel package but that didnt install the package needed21:44
Commodore64zkriesse: I'm from France, and my english is not so fluent I guess21:45
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ibuclawstlsaint, perhaps it is kernel-devel then...21:45
zkriesseCommodore64: well what do you mean?21:45
zkriesseCommodore64: you haven't asked much21:45
ibuclawI need to dash off anyway21:46
zkriesseCommodore64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam21:46
zkriesseCommodore64: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/21:46
Commodore64zkriesse: I have to think about it....it is a good project21:47
zkriesseheya paultag21:55
paultagheyya zkriesse21:55
paultagzkriesse, love the new nick21:56
zkriessepaultag: still talking about that eh?21:56
zkriessepaultag: jezsh21:56
paultagzkriesse, hey man, looks a lot better21:56
zkriessepaultag: ok21:56
paultagzkriesse, anywho21:56
* zkriesse will be back soon21:56
paultagzkriesse, how's things21:56
paultagzkriesse, kk, cheers21:56
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yvan300paultag, sorry, can i come back?23:01
paultagstlsaint, come backkk23:03
stlsaintpaultag: LOL....YOU KICKED ME!!!! :p23:21
paultagheh23:21
paultaghell yeah I did stlsaint23:21
stlsainti didnt even know it!!! WHERE IS MOHI!!23:21
paultaghe left stlsaint23:21
paultagstlsaint, he knew the hell that you would have gave him23:21
stlsaintsee i tried to let mohi off for awhile without bashing him but i see he wants some more! >:)23:23
ekseniksHi guys23:35
aveilleuxHello ekseniks23:36
ekseniksI'm running 10.04 and i need help stopping X server so i can install nvidia drivers23:36
aveilleuxekseniks: Reboot into "failsafe mode"23:36
aveilleuxEr23:36
eksenikshehe.. umm.. how :)23:37
aveilleuxekseniks: get to the GRUB prompt, THEN failsafe. not GNOME failsafe.23:37
aveilleuxekseniks: I believe if you mash Spacebar while the computer's loading, the GRUB prompt will show up. Someone confirm for me?23:37
paultagnot with grub 2 aveilleux23:37
paultagekseniks, ctrl + alt + f1 ( don't do it yet )23:37
paultagekseniks, log in as your administrative user, and run sudo stop gdm23:38
paultagekseniks, then when you want to bring it back in, sudo start gdm23:38
paultagekseniks, beware! if you use wifi, you won't have nm-applet23:38
paultagekseniks, you should be able to install the driver, run nvidia-xconfig and do a restart on gdm23:38
ekseniksah yes.. i did that earlier but it says something about gdm being upstart? and fails23:38
paultagekseniks, yeah, that's sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop23:39
paultagekseniks, upstart is using start / stop / restart script23:39
paultagekseniks, and it should not fail23:39
paultagekseniks, the rc.d script should call "restart" "start" or "stop"23:39
paultagekseniks, anywho, you can do it with gdm / x online and config x11 after you install the module23:40
ekseniksah ok.. i'll give it a shot... thanks guys!23:40
paultagekseniks, sure thing, good luck!23:40
drubinpaultag: last tweet was insane23:52
paultagdrubin, source: collinp23:52
collinpHm?23:52
paultagdrubin, fucking _insane_!!! mirite?!!23:52
paultagcollinp, I tweeted unreal ircd23:52
collinpAh.23:52
drubinwow collinp you are like the local awesome news server23:52
* drubin keeps finding collinp's tweets23:52
drubinand not giving him credit23:52
drubincollinp: sorry about that23:52
collinpLuckily, my UnrealIRCd was ran in a completely walled-off account, so it's unlikely anyone could plant something on my server.23:53
collinpFor the rest of the idiots out there that didn't do that, you had might as well reinstall your system.23:54
drubincollinp: +123:55
drubinif your system was comprismed or you think it was take it off line!23:55
drubinturn it off. 1) backup 2) dd 3) format/reinstall 4) restore data you know is safe23:56
collinpI've made sure that my boxes are nearly bulletproof.23:56
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collinpSure, if you managed to get root access, then it's already screwed, but you can't do much damage without it.23:56
paultagcollinp, selinux ftw23:58
paultagcollinp, you can make it so root can't do shit unless you boot up without selinux23:58
drubinpaultag: but that makes admining normal non production servers impossible23:58
drubin;/23:58
paultagdrubin, well duh :)23:59
drubinhehe23:59
paultagdrubin, I only manage prod servers :)23:59
paultagdrubin, did you see my datacenter?23:59
drubinLMAO23:59
drubinpaultag: no23:59
paultagdrubin, I work in a big datacenter as a UNIX admin23:59
drubindoes any one have any exprience with HIGH HIGH latency wireless APN23:59
paultagdrubin, it's in an old church23:59
paultagdrubin, http://www.computerworld.com/common/images/article/unlikely_data_centers/BC_datacenter_lg.jpg23:59
paultagdrubin, http://www.eypaedesign.com/resources/projects/70_1.jpg23:59

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