[00:16] <bizarro-paultag> classy as hell
[00:19] <aveilleux> Um, what
[03:17] <chris411> this working?
[03:17] <DarkwingDuck> It is chris411 what can we do for ya?
[03:17] <zkriesse> Hey DarkwingDuck congrats my Mann
[03:18] <DarkwingDuck> Thanks Zach... It got better too...
[03:18] <zkriesse> chris411: Whats the issue(s) you're having?
[03:18] <zkriesse> DarkwingDuck: What got better?
[03:18] <DarkwingDuck> zkriesse: see PM
[03:18] <chris411> I'm seeking some help with  Ubu getting stuck on the login srceen - I have seen its a recent common problem but unsure to use the terminal window commands
[03:19] <chris411> I had some help last night but had to log off as getting too late!
[03:20] <chris411> The person helped me create a backup of my home folder, but got stuck with creating 2 extra home folders somehow!
[03:22] <DarkwingDuck> So, when you login Ubuntu it freezes at the login screen?
[03:22] <chris411> can get into the "consul" at the graphical login screen...
[03:23] <chris411> no not freeze - "loops" after selecting user and pwd
[03:23] <DarkwingDuck> What happens when you type in the command startx ?
[03:23] <chris411> make sense?
[03:23] <chris411> hold on
[03:24] <aveilleux> chris411: sudo startx
[03:24] <DarkwingDuck> Gnome makes you use sudo?
[03:24] <chris411> yeh that might help
[03:25]  * DarkwingDuck mutters something about KDE
[03:25] <aveilleux> darkwingduck: of course you do O_O
[03:26] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[03:26] <aveilleux> I've never seen you able to startx without root permissions
[03:27] <chris411> whole bunch of error mssgs - inlc timeout in locking authority file - will try the command with sudo
[03:28] <chris411> same again
[03:30] <chris411> xauth created a new authority in /home/chris
[03:30] <DarkwingDuck> Who helped you last time and what did they have you do?
[03:31] <chris411> make /home/chris into chris.bak folder
[03:32] <chris411> create another /home/chris and used chown command but may have "muffed" this?
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> This is 10.04 correct?
[03:33] <chris411> yes - however i have dual boot on grub menu - Xubuntu hpld first places
[03:34] <chris411> holds 1st few places
[03:35] <chris411> Xubuntu was installed after ubu 10.04 and stole first placement on th egrub table
[03:35] <DarkwingDuck> YOu trying to log into Xubuntu or Gnome?
[03:35] <DarkwingDuck> Ubuntu
[03:35] <chris411> Ubu 10.04
[03:36] <chris411> latest updates were installed for both then problem occured
[03:36] <DarkwingDuck> Reboot it and when you get to the login screen hold there. Let me know when you get there.
[03:39] <chris411> ok at grub menu
[03:41] <chris411> at login screen for Ubu 10.04 latest kernal
[03:42] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, look on the login screen where you can choose your Desktop Environment
[03:42] <DarkwingDuck> I'm going from memory so, I'm not sure where it is exactly. If someone else can help me out with that.
[03:42] <aveilleux> Bottom-right
[03:43] <zkriesse> aveilleux: Good Jon
[03:43] <zkriesse> "job
[03:43] <DarkwingDuck> thanks aveilleux
[03:43] <aveilleux> You're welcome o_O
[03:43] <DarkwingDuck> chris411: Bottom right, select GNOME and try to log in.
[03:44] <chris411> sessions option N/a
[03:44]  * DarkwingDuck raises an eyebrow
[03:44] <DarkwingDuck> zkriesse: You following this?
[03:45] <chris411> Universal access prefs?
[03:45] <zkriesse> Sort of why
[03:45] <DarkwingDuck> Login problems and I'm stuck going from 2 year old memory using gnome
[03:46] <zkriesse> Ok so what's wrong chris411
[03:46] <chris411> bottom line is - langauge - keyboard - sessions - far right Uni Access but looks like stuff used for the blind!!
[03:47] <zkriesse> chris411: What error(s) are you having
[03:47] <DarkwingDuck> Sessions
[03:47] <chris411> as i mention session not avail, down aarrow not active
[03:48] <zkriesse> Are you dualbooting two OS's or are you running
[03:49] <zkriesse> Ubuntu with a different DE along side GNOME
[03:49] <chris411> dual os - as I understand it
[03:50] <chris411> both OS give same result - login screen, select user ok key in pwd ok then login loops back to empty values
[03:50] <DarkwingDuck> xubuntu and ubuntu
[03:50] <chris411> yes
[03:50] <zkriesse> Ok so did you install ubuntu and then stick In a different os disk and install that too?
[03:50] <chris411> yes
[03:50] <zkriesse> Or did you install Ubuntu and then install the XFCE DE
[03:52] <chris411> ohhh now ya asking, I had Ubu for a long time and updated, I wanted to test another version soo loaded Xu on diff parttion
[03:52] <zkriesse> Because if you installed them side by side the. You have to go in the boot menu to choose which os to boot into
[03:53] <chris411> the Xu stole 1st plce via install and I wanted to edit the grub menu, but never got to that point, since 10.04 used a new file and location i believe
[03:55] <chris411> last thing i was doinf was changing fonts on header bars in Ubu and rebooted and nothing was able to login, neither any prior kernal versions
[03:56] <zkriesse> Hmm
[03:56] <chris411> I burned a 10.04 onto disk - does that help reset anything or totally foul up my folders and data!!
[03:58] <acerimmer> chris411: burning an iso doesn't change your hdd
[03:58] <chris411> how about running it and reinstalling?
[03:59] <chris411> sorry thats what i ment
[03:59] <aveilleux> chris411: That'll overwrite everything o_O
[03:59] <acerimmer> chris411: backup your /home make sure you get the hidden folders as well.
[03:59] <acerimmer> unless you have a dedicated and separate /home it will get rewritten
[04:00] <chris411> eew
[04:00] <zkriesse> chris411: Back up your personal/pertinent data, reinstall ubuntu, and then do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" without quotes
[04:00] <chris411> )-:
[04:00] <aveilleux> chris411: Well that's how it works
[04:00] <chris411> mm
[04:01] <zkriesse> That will install the xubuntu desktop environment on ubuntu so at startup you can choose between them
[04:01] <zkriesse> chris411: ^^
[04:01] <chris411> I would rather sacrifice Xubu
[04:02] <acerimmer> !panels
[04:02] <ubot2> To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[04:05] <chris411> if I run the 10.04 on CD can I see my files in the existing 10.04?
[04:05] <aveilleux> chris411: Yes
[04:06] <chris411> then I couls have an option to off load to a flash or burn to a backup disk?
[04:07] <zkriesse> chris411: I believe so my friend
[04:08] <chris411> ok - (sigh - knowing how many files there are to BU)
[04:09] <chris411> havn a peek with Live CD - Thanks folks - enjoy the footy!
[04:32] <stlsaint> chrome holding out like a champ
[04:33] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Chrome or chromium?
[04:34]  * aveilleux is formerly Chesamo, stlsaint
[04:34] <stlsaint> aye
[04:34] <stlsaint> chrome
[04:35] <aveilleux> stlsaint: laaaaame.
[04:35]  * stlsaint is thinking of going back to his love......screen
[04:35]  * stlsaint uses his superior penguin senses to sense the hating illuminating off aveilleux 
[04:36] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Chrome is Google-tained Chromium.
[04:36] <stlsaint> maybe so...but its MY google-tainted chromium browser of choice :P
[05:23] <stlsaint> IM BACK
[05:23] <aveilleux> :O
[05:23] <greenjon> wb stlsaint
[05:24] <stlsaint> thank you thank you
[05:26] <pedro3005> hey stlsaint
[05:35] <nfearnley> I'm trying to setup a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. They both pair correctly, connect and work. After they are disconnect, they won't reconnect unless I remove the pairing and re-pair them. What can I do to allow them to automatically reconnect?
[05:37] <stlsaint> nfearnley: i havent been an advent bluetooth user but i know there are some tools in repos for it
[08:48] <shahan> getting very slow internet speed on ubuntu using my wifi. but I was using for this for about one month. it was giving me an excellent support for last 1 month. but now.. what happened I dont know. Its very slow.... but in XP its working good....
[08:56] <leoquant> shahan, which version of ubuntu and which wifi encr. do you use? wep. wap or wpa2?
[08:57] <leoquant> did you get troubles after an update?
[08:57] <shahan> leoquant: lucid lynx... dont know about wep, wap or wpa2
[08:58] <shahan> leoquant: ya
[08:58] <leoquant> which update
[08:59] <leoquant> shahan, every wifi connection should be protected with wap or wpa2
[08:59] <shahan> leoquant: may be mysql client
[08:59] <leoquant> shahan, please go to the networkapplet, is you wifi visible?
[09:00] <leoquant> (rightclick
[09:01] <leoquant> your
[09:01] <shahan> leoquant: yes its visible
[09:01] <leoquant> is it "open"or "protected"?
[09:02] <leoquant> protected gives a lock
[09:02] <leoquant> (picture)
[09:03] <shahan> leoquant: there has no lock picture
[09:04] <leoquant> shahan, you should really protect your wifi, everyone could use your wifi connection now
[09:04] <shahan> leoquant: I have no further knowledge about wifi
[11:30] <Silver_Fox_> Hello mohi1
[11:49] <mohi1> heya Silver_Fox_ i was having my lunce =]
[11:49] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[11:50] <mohi1> how are ya Silver_Fox_?
[11:50] <Silver_Fox_> Tired mohi1 ,  very tired.
[11:50] <Silver_Fox_> How are you ?
[11:50] <mohi1> Silver_Fox_, same :D
[11:51] <mohi1> Silver_Fox_, how you became tired??
[11:51] <Silver_Fox_> ~5 hours sleep in 48 hours
[11:51] <Silver_Fox_> I am back in UK,  body clock is all wrong
[11:51] <mohi1> Silver_Fox_, i slept for 2 hours in the past three days
[11:51] <Silver_Fox_> Fun
[11:51] <mohi1> lol
[11:52] <mohi1> no
[11:52] <Silver_Fox_> Why ?
[11:52] <mohi1> was talking with my friend =]
[11:53] <mohi1> day1: A marriage. Day2: messed up in my native. Day3: chats =]
[11:53] <mohi1> Silver_Fox_, how was the trip?
[11:54] <Silver_Fox_> Long,  but it was worth going to US
[11:54] <hobgoblin> to come home and realise all is well
[11:55] <mohi1> hiya hobgoblin =]
[11:58] <mohi1> wb shahan. hows the download speed now?
[11:59] <shahan> mohi1: same as before
[11:59] <shahan> mohi1: I have installed the kernel ... just the previous version of the current
[12:00] <mohi1> hmmm Silver_Fox_ and hobgoblin. shahan had a certainly impossible problem. His WiFi slows down in Lucid, but good with windows
[12:00] <mohi1> works good*
[12:00] <shahan> mohi1: :(
[12:01] <hobgoblin> usual thing then - the windows drivers are built properly thr linux ones are built by people working in the dark
[12:01] <mohi1> hobgoblin, but it WiFi was working perfect before a week. now only it slowed down
[12:02] <hobgoblin> mohi1: no idea really about wifi
[12:02] <mohi1> hobgoblin, same here :(
[12:02] <Silver_Fox_> Wifi is iffy at best
[12:03] <hobgoblin> I would have a good search on the specific wifi hardware and chipset
[12:03] <Silver_Fox_> Chipset
[12:03] <hobgoblin> sorry - forgot the capital C
[12:03] <hobgoblin> ;)
[12:04] <Silver_Fox_> No worries ;)
[12:04] <mohi1> sILVER_fOX_
[12:34] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[12:38] <Silver_Fox_> o/
[12:39] <Silver_Fox_> How are you duanedesign
[12:42] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: good. I have a sick cat though :(
[12:42] <Silver_Fox_> Oh no,  whats wrong with it  ?
[12:43] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: she is sneezing a lot. If she doesn't get better or gets worse i'll have to take her to the vet
[12:45] <Silver_Fox_> :(
[12:45] <Silver_Fox_> BRB
[12:45] <duanedesign> kk
[12:54] <Silver_Fox_> Back duanedesign ,  sorry about that.  Since I got back to UK my phone hasn't stopped ringing
[12:54] <Silver_Fox_> I hope your cat gets better soon
[13:29] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: thank you
[13:30] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: where did go? you said 'back to the UK'? France again?
[13:30] <Silver_Fox_> No,  I was in USA for 3 weeks
[13:32] <Silver_Fox_> ^ duanedesign
[13:32] <duanedesign> oh the states, I hope it wasnt vacation, :)
[13:33] <Silver_Fox_> Mostly vacation,  but did have a little business to take care of aswell
[13:33] <Silver_Fox_> Had a good time and saw plenty of sights,  so thats the main thing
[13:34] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: where in the states?
[13:34] <Silver_Fox_> Quite happy at current sight,  basement cat curled up on the chair
[13:34] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[13:34] <Silver_Fox_> Missed him
[13:34] <duanedesign> i bet
[13:34] <duanedesign> 3 weeks would be awhile
[13:35] <Silver_Fox_> I was based in California
[13:35] <Silver_Fox_> Went into Arizona o'course
[13:35] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: so that was quite a flight
[13:35] <Silver_Fox_> And then also down into Mexico
[13:35] <Silver_Fox_> Yep,  long flight
[13:37] <Silver_Fox_> I think it was 10h on way back
[13:46] <duanedesign> good time to catch up on all that reading you have been meaning to do
[13:47] <Silver_Fox_> Well,  truth be told I slept
[13:47] <Silver_Fox_> Or at least tried to ;)
[13:47] <Silver_Fox_> I just sat in the chair with my eyes closed
[13:48] <Silver_Fox_> Didn't actually work
[13:48] <Silver_Fox_> LOL
[13:48] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: yeah pretty big time difference between West Coast and UK
[13:48] <Silver_Fox_> 8 HOURS
[13:51] <duanedesign> Im working on a blog post about interesting ways to use Ubuntu One.
[13:55] <duanedesign> so far i have: Create Your Own Browser Start Page, Don't Wait Until You Get Home to download a Torrent. Monitor your Desktop....
[13:55] <ikt> quitting ma job tomorrow
[13:55] <ikt> ohhh yeah
[13:55] <ikt> *starts to sing a happy song*
[13:55] <Silver_Fox_> Got a new one ikt  ?
[14:02] <ikt> nah but it would be easy as pie with my experience to get another one in a similar position
[14:07] <duanedesign> what is a command to get time?
[14:07] <duanedesign> more specifically, I want to add time to this:    import -frame -strip -quality 100 "$HOME/screenshots/$(date +%s).png"
[14:10] <duanedesign> ahhdate does return the time :)
[14:10] <Silver_Fox_> duanedesign,  date --help
[14:10] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[14:10] <Silver_Fox_> Don't know which format you want
[14:12] <Silver_Fox_> duanedesign,  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/timedate.html
[14:12] <Silver_Fox_> Should help
[14:19] <paultag> duanedesign, date +"%s"
[14:20] <paultag> oh doh
[14:20] <paultag> sorry duanedesign, you did it right
[14:34] <Yos> what is the command to show which graphics card I have ?
[14:35] <duanedesign> hello Yos
[14:35] <Yos> hi duanedesign :)
[14:35] <Yos> good to see you
[14:36] <duanedesign> Yos: lspci | grep VGA
[14:36] <Yos> Thanks
[15:25] <duanedesign> /5/5
[15:26] <hobgoblin> some sort of time signature?
[15:26] <Silver_Fox_> date
[15:26] <Silver_Fox_> NO...time ?
[15:46] <switchgirl> trying to get the ubuntu webbook screen size to go to the size of the screen i have
[15:46] <switchgirl> eeepc 4g
[15:53] <ibuclaw> oh hey there switchgirl
[15:54] <ibuclaw> been a while, has it not?
[16:07] <switchgirl> yeah
[16:09] <Silver_Fox_> How are you doing?  Still working crazy hours ?
[16:13] <duanedesign> switchgirl: it is at a lower resolution than you are expecting?
[16:14] <switchgirl> umm tbph  its the windows not fitting
[16:14] <switchgirl> and wifi not working
[16:17]  * switchgirl hopes that America doesn't launch a nuclear war tonight when they get beat in the world cup
[16:18] <switchgirl> *by us (england
[16:23] <duanedesign> switchgirl: i think we are safe, no one in America will even realize they were beat.
[16:24] <duanedesign> switchgirl: did the Asus eeepc fixes page on the wiki help any?
[19:43] <switchgirl_> i used to live near Whitehaven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehaven#History :) so.... it's been 300 years but umm we have scores to settle, this time on the football pitch.
[20:27] <ibuclaw> switchgirl_, we was robbed. :F
[20:28] <switchgirl_> ibuclaw, meh.... they are better than in '28
[20:31] <switchgirl_> how to ban a contact in empathy?
[20:31] <switchgirl_> block*
[20:32] <aveilleux> switchgirl_: you can't
[20:33] <switchgirl_> aveilleux, why not? i am facing harrasment
[20:33] <switchgirl_> i need to block them
[20:34] <aveilleux> switchgirl_: That program does not have the ability to Block. Use Pidgin if you need to Block.
[20:37] <switchgirl> why are ubuntu using it then?
[20:37] <aveilleux> switchgirl: I don't know. I don't like it either.
[20:38] <aveilleux> switchgirl: I made my own Ubuntu version just because of that ;-)
[20:38] <switchgirl> i think it breaks EU directives
[20:39] <aveilleux> switchgirl: What
[20:40] <switchgirl> not being able to block breaks a few eu directives - if it where commecial
[20:41] <switchgirl> ie eu law
[20:41] <aveilleux> switchgirl: http://ubuntu-minimal-desktop.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-umd.html  /shameless_self_promotion
[20:43] <stlsaint> aveilleux: are you josh peterson?
[20:44] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Negatory. My name is Anthony Veilleux.
[21:05] <ibuclaw> aveilleux, you use a script?
[21:05] <ibuclaw> ugh... >..>#
[21:05] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: ping
[21:06] <ibuclaw> aveilleux, while I'm not a fan of "script to install software for you", only thing I'll note is that you use aptitude
[21:06] <ibuclaw> which may be removed in 10.10 Desktop edition
[21:06] <ibuclaw> but kept in Server
[21:06] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, word up?
[21:07] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: i somehow jacked up my sudoers in a fedora vm and im not sure how to fix it?
[21:07] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, don't you have a root account in Fedora?
[21:08] <stlsaint> yes and usually i would just stick with it but i was trying to try and add my user account to it for giggles i guess since i usually just use root
[21:09] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, so you can't 'su root' ?
[21:10] <stlsaint> i can do everything as root but i cant sudo anything under my user account (stlsaint)
[21:10] <ibuclaw> visudo
[21:10] <aveilleux> ibuclaw, removing aptitude? Why?
[21:11] <ibuclaw> aveilleux, there's an abundance of tools for installing software, and aptitude is a bit of a "power-users" tool anyway.
[21:11] <aveilleux> ibuclaw: I know, that's why I use it
[21:12] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, you should use visudo to edit the sudoers file
[21:12] <stlsaint> yea i guess thats route im going to have to take
[21:12] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, it's the only route you _should_ take. ;)
[21:13] <ibuclaw> at the bottom of the file:
[21:13] <ibuclaw> stlsaint ALL=(ALL) ALL
[21:13] <ibuclaw> if it opens in vi, use :wq to save and quite
[21:13] <ibuclaw> visudo will then parse and check the file for errors
[21:14] <ibuclaw> all checked out, it then writes the file to /etc/sudoers
[21:16] <ZachK_> hello Commodore64
[21:23] <zkriesse> welcome cavalliloco
[21:23] <cavalliloco> ah, hi
[21:23] <zkriesse> cavalliloco: ask your question here so all may help
[21:23] <cavalliloco> well, story goes
[21:24] <cavalliloco> downloaded latest release of ubuntu
[21:24] <cavalliloco> on lenovo 3000 N200
[21:24] <cavalliloco> booted the cs
[21:24] <cavalliloco> cd
[21:24] <aveilleux> cacalliloco: One line, please
[21:24] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: do you know why a application would be installed but not be read by the OS?
[21:24] <cavalliloco> hi, I can not install ubuntu on my lenovo 3000 n200, phyton (installer included) throws exceptions, can anyone help or direct me to proper channel?
[21:25] <stlsaint> cavalliloco: what error are you getting thats preventing you from installing?
[21:26] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, what do you mean?
[21:26] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: im going to post screenshot
[21:26] <cavalliloco> stlsaint: when I run the installer with -v I get some strane errors from final AB something module
[21:28] <cavalliloco> stlsaint: did google it, and just got some simillar errors, not same, with patch for python itself that just adds exception handeling
[21:29] <zkriesse> sorry
[21:29] <zkriesse> internet cut out on me
[21:30] <cavalliloco> stlsaint: apart from installer, I've tried also to run sudoku (python as well) with no luck, just exception on different module and different include line (I believe it was os, but not sure)
[21:31] <aveilleux> cavalliloco: Have you tried the ncurses (alternate) installer?
[21:32] <Commodore64> ZachK_ hello
[21:32] <cavalliloco> aveilleux: ehm no, but, even If I install it, I still need workging python to use it
[21:32] <Commodore64> zkriesse: hello
[21:33] <zkriesse> Commodore64: And how are you today/what brings ya here?
[21:33] <Commodore64> Linux of course brings me here
[21:33] <aveilleux> cavalliloco: Yes but getting Ubuntu running should be a priority
[21:34] <cavalliloco> aveilleux: is d-i python?
[21:34] <aveilleux> cavalliloco: I have no idea
[21:35] <cavalliloco> aveilleux: k, thanks, I'll try, and come back here if all else fails
[21:35] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/232/parallelserror.png
[21:36] <zkriesse> Commodore64: Cool....looking to join any teams?
[21:36] <Commodore64> zkriesse: soccer team ? ^^
[21:37] <zkriesse> Commodore64: Ubuntu Teams
[21:39] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, oh... lol
[21:39] <ibuclaw> kernel sources is not the name of the package =)
[21:39] <Commodore64> zkriesse: what are the goals of Ubuntu Teams ?
[21:40] <stlsaint> ?
[21:40] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, is it yum install kernel-sourcecode ?
[21:40] <zkriesse> Commodore64: Well All of the teams try to promote and advocate the Ubuntu Mission
[21:40] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: is it kernel-devel?
[21:40] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: oh sourcescode?
[21:41] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: i will try
[21:41] <zkriesse> Commodore64: but there are many different teams which have a different mission such as the Ubuntu Beginners Team (This Channel)
[21:41] <ibuclaw> am no ood with fedora package names =)
[21:41] <ibuclaw> *good
[21:43] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: nope, no sourcecode package
[21:44] <stlsaint> ibuclaw: i know that there is a source-devel package but that didnt install the package needed
[21:45] <Commodore64> zkriesse: I'm from France, and my english is not so fluent I guess
[21:45] <ibuclaw> stlsaint, perhaps it is kernel-devel then...
[21:45] <zkriesse> Commodore64: well what do you mean?
[21:45] <zkriesse> Commodore64: you haven't asked much
[21:46] <ibuclaw> I need to dash off anyway
[21:46] <zkriesse> Commodore64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[21:46] <zkriesse> Commodore64: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[21:47] <Commodore64> zkriesse: I have to think about it....it is a good project
[21:55] <zkriesse> heya paultag
[21:55] <paultag> heyya zkriesse
[21:56] <paultag> zkriesse, love the new nick
[21:56] <zkriesse> paultag: still talking about that eh?
[21:56] <zkriesse> paultag: jezsh
[21:56] <paultag> zkriesse, hey man, looks a lot better
[21:56] <zkriesse> paultag: ok
[21:56] <paultag> zkriesse, anywho
[21:56]  * zkriesse will be back soon
[21:56] <paultag> zkriesse, how's things
[21:56] <paultag> zkriesse, kk, cheers
[23:01] <yvan300> paultag, sorry, can i come back?
[23:03] <paultag> stlsaint, come backkk
[23:21] <stlsaint> paultag: LOL....YOU KICKED ME!!!! :p
[23:21] <paultag> heh
[23:21] <paultag> hell yeah I did stlsaint
[23:21] <stlsaint> i didnt even know it!!! WHERE IS MOHI!!
[23:21] <paultag> he left stlsaint
[23:21] <paultag> stlsaint, he knew the hell that you would have gave him
[23:23] <stlsaint> see i tried to let mohi off for awhile without bashing him but i see he wants some more! >:)
[23:35] <ekseniks> Hi guys
[23:36] <aveilleux> Hello ekseniks
[23:36] <ekseniks> I'm running 10.04 and i need help stopping X server so i can install nvidia drivers
[23:36] <aveilleux> ekseniks: Reboot into "failsafe mode"
[23:36] <aveilleux> Er
[23:37] <ekseniks> hehe.. umm.. how :)
[23:37] <aveilleux> ekseniks: get to the GRUB prompt, THEN failsafe. not GNOME failsafe.
[23:37] <aveilleux> ekseniks: I believe if you mash Spacebar while the computer's loading, the GRUB prompt will show up. Someone confirm for me?
[23:37] <paultag> not with grub 2 aveilleux
[23:37] <paultag> ekseniks, ctrl + alt + f1 ( don't do it yet )
[23:38] <paultag> ekseniks, log in as your administrative user, and run sudo stop gdm
[23:38] <paultag> ekseniks, then when you want to bring it back in, sudo start gdm
[23:38] <paultag> ekseniks, beware! if you use wifi, you won't have nm-applet
[23:38] <paultag> ekseniks, you should be able to install the driver, run nvidia-xconfig and do a restart on gdm
[23:38] <ekseniks> ah yes.. i did that earlier but it says something about gdm being upstart? and fails
[23:39] <paultag> ekseniks, yeah, that's sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:39] <paultag> ekseniks, upstart is using start / stop / restart script
[23:39] <paultag> ekseniks, and it should not fail
[23:39] <paultag> ekseniks, the rc.d script should call "restart" "start" or "stop"
[23:40] <paultag> ekseniks, anywho, you can do it with gdm / x online and config x11 after you install the module
[23:40] <ekseniks> ah ok.. i'll give it a shot... thanks guys!
[23:40] <paultag> ekseniks, sure thing, good luck!
[23:52] <drubin> paultag: last tweet was insane
[23:52] <paultag> drubin, source: collinp
[23:52] <collinp> Hm?
[23:52] <paultag> drubin, fucking _insane_!!! mirite?!!
[23:52] <paultag> collinp, I tweeted unreal ircd
[23:52] <collinp> Ah.
[23:52] <drubin> wow collinp you are like the local awesome news server
[23:52]  * drubin keeps finding collinp's tweets
[23:52] <drubin> and not giving him credit
[23:52] <drubin> collinp: sorry about that
[23:53] <collinp> Luckily, my UnrealIRCd was ran in a completely walled-off account, so it's unlikely anyone could plant something on my server.
[23:54] <collinp> For the rest of the idiots out there that didn't do that, you had might as well reinstall your system.
[23:55] <drubin> collinp: +1
[23:55] <drubin> if your system was comprismed or you think it was take it off line!
[23:56] <drubin> turn it off. 1) backup 2) dd 3) format/reinstall 4) restore data you know is safe
[23:56] <collinp> I've made sure that my boxes are nearly bulletproof.
[23:56] <collinp> Sure, if you managed to get root access, then it's already screwed, but you can't do much damage without it.
[23:58] <paultag> collinp, selinux ftw
[23:58] <paultag> collinp, you can make it so root can't do shit unless you boot up without selinux
[23:58] <drubin> paultag: but that makes admining normal non production servers impossible
[23:58] <drubin> ;/
[23:59] <paultag> drubin, well duh :)
[23:59] <drubin> hehe
[23:59] <paultag> drubin, I only manage prod servers :)
[23:59] <paultag> drubin, did you see my datacenter?
[23:59] <drubin> LMAO
[23:59] <drubin> paultag: no
[23:59] <paultag> drubin, I work in a big datacenter as a UNIX admin
[23:59] <drubin> does any one have any exprience with HIGH HIGH latency wireless APN
[23:59] <paultag> drubin, it's in an old church
[23:59] <paultag> drubin, http://www.computerworld.com/common/images/article/unlikely_data_centers/BC_datacenter_lg.jpg
[23:59] <paultag> drubin, http://www.eypaedesign.com/resources/projects/70_1.jpg