/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/12/#ubuntu-meeting.txt

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IdleOnemeeting in 1 hour?19:57
nhandlerIdleOne: Yes20:18
IdleOnenhandler: thank you20:18
ubuntujenkinsthe manual meeting is in #ubuntu-manual in ten minutes not here20:50
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nhandlerLooks like meeting time21:00
nhandlerjussi, topyli, Pici, tsimpson: Who is here?21:00
topylio/21:00
godbykFor any Ubuntu Manual folks in here, we'll be meeting in #ubuntu-manual.21:00
Pici21:01
tsimpson|n800o/21:01
topyli#startmeeting21:03
MootBotMeeting started at 15:03. The chair is topyli.21:03
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]21:03
topyliso we have a nice short agenda21:03
nhandler[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda21:03
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda21:03
topyli[TOPIC] Official Adoption of the operatorguide21:03
MootBotNew Topic:  Official Adoption of the operatorguide21:03
nhandlerI can talk about it since jussi appears not to be here21:04
topyliok21:04
Piciok21:04
nhandlerA few meetings ago, we decided to work on creating an operator guide. Thanks to some help from the community, the guide is basically complete21:04
nhandler[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler/OperatorGuide21:04
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler/OperatorGuide21:04
nhandlerI still want to add a section about when/how to escalate certain issues to the IRCC/freenode staff, but the guide is probably complete enough to officially adopt21:05
topyliit's certainly useful already21:05
PiciIt looks good to me :)21:06
tsimpson|n800it should be quite useful, especially for newer ops21:06
nhandlerCan anyone think of a reason not to officially adopt it and move it to the team's namespace ?21:06
PiciI cannot.21:07
jussio/21:07
jussisorry im late21:07
tsimpson|n800i'm happy enough with it to recommend adopting it21:07
nhandlerjussi: Anything you want to add about this item?21:07
jussiI think it should be adopted, with the caveat that its organic and will grow as we think of stuff21:07
nhandlerAgreed. It is just a guide, not policy, so I think changing it is fine21:07
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topyliyes21:08
jussiyou want to have a vote?21:08
nhandlerIf we adopt it, it might be useful to add a factoid or 2 linking to it, update some of our other wiki pages to link to it, and link to it when helping people with IRC issues21:08
topylimaybe a vote is not needed, we seem to have agreement, no?21:09
jussiyes, there should be an !opguide factoid21:09
nhandlerIf nobody disagrees with my above suggestion, I can take that action21:09
jussitopyli: vote makes it easier on the minutes writer ;)21:09
jussinhandler: +121:09
topyliwe can [agree] :)21:10
Pici[agreed]21:10
tsimpson|n800it's not policy, so i guess a vote is not strictly needed21:10
PiciArgh, do we have to have a vote to see whether we should vote on the document?21:10
topylihehehe21:10
topylialright then.21:11
jussiwhatever21:11
nhandlerEither way, topyli, can you give me the action?21:11
topyli[VOTE] adopt the operator guide21:11
MootBotPlease vote on:  adopt the operator guide.21:11
MootBotPublic votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot21:11
MootBotE.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting21:11
jussi+121:11
MootBot+1 received from jussi. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 121:11
nhandler+121:11
Pici+121:11
MootBot+1 received from Pici. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 221:11
MootBot+1 received from nhandler. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 321:11
topyli+121:11
MootBot+1 received from topyli. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 421:11
tsimpson|n800+121:11
MootBot+1 received from tsimpson|n800. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 521:11
topyli#endvote21:11
topyli[ENDVOTE]21:12
MootBotFinal result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 521:12
topyliyay21:12
jussiso, anything else?21:12
PiciAnything else on the agenda?21:13
topylinhandler: you will add the factoid?21:13
nhandlerWe need an [AGREED] and [ACTION] for that vote still topyli21:13
nhandlertopyli: Yeah, and update the wiki21:13
tsimpson|n800let's [agreed] and [action]... what nhandler said21:13
topyli[AGREED] adopt the operator guide21:13
MootBotAGREED received:  adopt the operator guide21:13
nhandlerDid the LoCo Council have their meeting yet? I haven't seen an email to the list about the channel logging yet21:13
topyli[ACTION] nhandler to update wiki and add a !opguide factoid21:13
MootBotACTION received:  nhandler to update wiki and add a !opguide factoid21:13
topylinhandler: nor i21:14
jussiright, so anything else?21:15
jussiany new bugs?21:15
nhandlerNot that I've seen. I think we got a reply on the bug we discussed at the last meeting though21:16
tsimpson|n800we got a reply, but the bug is still open21:16
topylianything we can do about it? all i can think about is nag21:18
IdleOneSorry if this is a dumb question, but what is the bug in question?21:18
nhandler[LINK] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/guadalinex/+bug/51391521:19
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/guadalinex/+bug/51391521:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 513915 in Guadalinex "IRC Clients join Ubuntu channels by default" [Low,New]21:19
topylioh fast21:19
IdleOneI see21:19
tsimpson|n800they said the would be able to close the bug last week (?)21:19
tsimpson|n800just haven't got the final "ok, fixed" yet21:20
nhandlerI think we can just wait. Not much more we need to do with that21:20
topyliare we actually seeing lots of those users these days?21:21
tsimpson|n800not that i can see21:21
topyliyeah21:21
IdleOnenot as many21:21
IdleOneas we used to21:21
jussiOk, not much we can do there, so anything else?21:22
nhandlerI don't have anything else to discuss.21:22
IdleOnethe bug page says fix released21:22
nhandlerIdleOne: Only for one of the tasks21:22
topyliok, let's wrap it up then21:22
tsimpson|n800IdleOne: there are 2 tasks21:23
Picithey are two different distros apparently, or something21:23
nhandlertopyli: You will take care of the fixed agenda items, correct?21:23
topylinhandler: yes21:23
topyli#endmeeting21:24
MootBotMeeting finished at 15:24.21:24
topylialmost forgot :)21:24
topylimaybe i should actually learn to chair before chairing :)21:24
topylithanks everyone21:24
Picihave a good day everyon :)21:25

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