=== noy_ is now known as noy === \vish is now known as vish === pak33m is now known as pak33mself [19:57] meeting in 1 hour? [20:18] IdleOne: Yes [20:18] nhandler: thank you [20:50] the manual meeting is in #ubuntu-manual in ten minutes not here === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:00] Looks like meeting time [21:00] jussi, topyli, Pici, tsimpson: Who is here? [21:00] o/ [21:00] For any Ubuntu Manual folks in here, we'll be meeting in #ubuntu-manual. [21:01] ♫ [21:01] o/ [21:03] #startmeeting [21:03] Meeting started at 15:03. The chair is topyli. [21:03] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [21:03] so we have a nice short agenda [21:03] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda [21:03] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda [21:03] [TOPIC] Official Adoption of the operatorguide [21:03] New Topic: Official Adoption of the operatorguide [21:04] I can talk about it since jussi appears not to be here [21:04] ok [21:04] ok [21:04] A few meetings ago, we decided to work on creating an operator guide. Thanks to some help from the community, the guide is basically complete [21:04] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler/OperatorGuide [21:04] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler/OperatorGuide [21:05] I still want to add a section about when/how to escalate certain issues to the IRCC/freenode staff, but the guide is probably complete enough to officially adopt [21:05] it's certainly useful already [21:06] It looks good to me :) [21:06] it should be quite useful, especially for newer ops [21:06] Can anyone think of a reason not to officially adopt it and move it to the team's namespace ? [21:07] I cannot. [21:07] o/ [21:07] sorry im late [21:07] i'm happy enough with it to recommend adopting it [21:07] jussi: Anything you want to add about this item? [21:07] I think it should be adopted, with the caveat that its organic and will grow as we think of stuff [21:07] Agreed. It is just a guide, not policy, so I think changing it is fine === noy_ is now known as noy [21:08] yes [21:08] you want to have a vote? [21:08] If we adopt it, it might be useful to add a factoid or 2 linking to it, update some of our other wiki pages to link to it, and link to it when helping people with IRC issues [21:09] maybe a vote is not needed, we seem to have agreement, no? [21:09] yes, there should be an !opguide factoid [21:09] If nobody disagrees with my above suggestion, I can take that action [21:09] topyli: vote makes it easier on the minutes writer ;) [21:09] nhandler: +1 [21:10] we can [agree] :) [21:10] [agreed] [21:10] it's not policy, so i guess a vote is not strictly needed [21:10] Argh, do we have to have a vote to see whether we should vote on the document? [21:10] hehehe [21:11] alright then. [21:11] whatever [21:11] Either way, topyli, can you give me the action? [21:11] [VOTE] adopt the operator guide [21:11] Please vote on: adopt the operator guide. [21:11] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [21:11] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [21:11] +1 [21:11] +1 received from jussi. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [21:11] +1 [21:11] +1 [21:11] +1 received from Pici. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [21:11] +1 received from nhandler. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [21:11] +1 [21:11] +1 received from topyli. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [21:11] +1 [21:11] +1 received from tsimpson|n800. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [21:11] #endvote [21:12] [ENDVOTE] [21:12] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [21:12] yay [21:12] so, anything else? [21:13] Anything else on the agenda? [21:13] nhandler: you will add the factoid? [21:13] We need an [AGREED] and [ACTION] for that vote still topyli [21:13] topyli: Yeah, and update the wiki [21:13] let's [agreed] and [action]... what nhandler said [21:13] [AGREED] adopt the operator guide [21:13] AGREED received: adopt the operator guide [21:13] Did the LoCo Council have their meeting yet? I haven't seen an email to the list about the channel logging yet [21:13] [ACTION] nhandler to update wiki and add a !opguide factoid [21:13] ACTION received: nhandler to update wiki and add a !opguide factoid [21:14] nhandler: nor i [21:15] right, so anything else? [21:15] any new bugs? [21:16] Not that I've seen. I think we got a reply on the bug we discussed at the last meeting though [21:16] we got a reply, but the bug is still open [21:18] anything we can do about it? all i can think about is nag [21:18] Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is the bug in question? [21:19] [LINK] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/guadalinex/+bug/513915 [21:19] LINK received: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/guadalinex/+bug/513915 [21:19] Launchpad bug 513915 in Guadalinex "IRC Clients join Ubuntu channels by default" [Low,New] [21:19] oh fast [21:19] I see [21:19] they said the would be able to close the bug last week (?) [21:20] just haven't got the final "ok, fixed" yet [21:20] I think we can just wait. Not much more we need to do with that [21:21] are we actually seeing lots of those users these days? [21:21] not that i can see [21:21] yeah [21:21] not as many [21:21] as we used to [21:22] Ok, not much we can do there, so anything else? [21:22] I don't have anything else to discuss. [21:22] the bug page says fix released [21:22] IdleOne: Only for one of the tasks [21:22] ok, let's wrap it up then [21:23] IdleOne: there are 2 tasks [21:23] they are two different distros apparently, or something [21:23] topyli: You will take care of the fixed agenda items, correct? [21:23] nhandler: yes [21:24] #endmeeting [21:24] Meeting finished at 15:24. [21:24] almost forgot :) [21:24] maybe i should actually learn to chair before chairing :) [21:24] thanks everyone [21:25] have a good day everyon :)