[00:13] <Fudge> mrand  ive installed mythtv, its going to be a media machine and hopefully accessible enough for me to set it up. also hopefully will stream tv to other machines in the house eventually
[00:18] <mrand> Fudge:  The short answer is that yes, you need to install both.  One isn't very good without the other.
[00:18] <mrand> (both front and backend)
[00:19] <Fudge> does mythtv install both or do i need to install all mythtv mythtv-front and back
[00:19] <tgm4883> Fudge, use MCC, it helps setup alot
[00:19] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-control-centre
[00:19] <Fudge> im not sure if its compatible with orca but ill give it a go
[00:21] <mrand> Fudge: mythtv package installs both.  As tgm4883 says, mcc is very nice, but I didn't try it with orca, so I don't know.
[00:22] <Fudge> thanks mate, im installing it at the least someone could help set it up for me anyway
[00:22] <Fudge> are there driver packages to help detect a capture card? i bought one that had been mentioned a lot of forums but it didnt seem to detect when i had it in this system
[00:23] <tgm4883> hmm
[00:23] <mrand> Fudge: Linux kernal supports most common capture cards.
[00:23] <tgm4883> mrand, restricted-extras?
[00:23] <mrand> kernel, that is.
[00:23] <mrand> *shrug*
[00:23] <tgm4883> that might not be drivers
[00:23] <tgm4883> but yea, kernel supports lots
[00:23] <tgm4883> what card
[00:24] <mrand> be back later
[00:25] <Fudge> ill let u know :D
[00:26] <Fudge> oh i cant remember
[00:26] <Fudge> oops
[00:33] <Fudge> ill see if i can find the list though
[02:13] <piper69> why if i played a video inside mythtv it stutter, but if i played the same move from VLC out side Mythtv it play just fine?
[02:16] <tgm4883> piper69, why don't you post some logs :)
[02:16] <tgm4883> !logs
[02:16] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[02:25] <piper69> http://pastebin.com/jpM1BidU
[02:25] <piper69> tgm4883: ^^
[02:26] <piper69> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/cRnAKXwa
[02:28] <tgm4883> hmm
[02:28] <tgm4883> your getting some buffer underrun errors
[02:29] <tgm4883> are you running 0.22 or 0.23?
[02:30] <piper69> 0.22
[02:30] <piper69> is there 0.23 mythbuntu
[02:31] <piper69> i wonder if i can upgrade without losing my current recordings
[02:32] <tgm4883> !upgrade
[02:32] <Zinn> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[02:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[02:32] <tgm4883> !auto%
[02:32] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[02:32] <tgm4883> thats what you want
[02:44] <piper69> tgm4883: autobuild is asking me which version i want to update
[02:44] <piper69> 0.22 or 0.23
[02:45] <tgm4883> well both have been released. 0.22 would give you more up to date packages than you currently have
[02:45] <tgm4883> 0.23 would to, because it is the next version after what you have
[02:46] <piper69> what oo you suggest update my current 022 or upgrade to 0.23
[02:53] <tgm4883> 0.22 would be less impact
[02:57] <piper69> tgm4883: doing so right now
[03:22] <piper69> tgm4883: ok so how do i know it is setup or i have the latest
[03:23] <tgm4883> dpkg -l mythtv-frontend
[03:23] <piper69> 0.22.0+fixes23893-0u
[03:26] <tgm4883> yea that probably was the latest version of 0.22
[04:42] <yakov> hello anyone from mexico?
[11:06] <Fudge> back here
[17:05] <aahz> hi all, i'm using 10.04 but unfortunately have to fight a few problems. in the video browser, i always have 3 columns visible. which is a real pain, because having to deal with long file names, i can't read most of them. any idea how to get rid of one of the comlumns, to and up with only two?
[17:05] <aahz> oops, i'm talking of list mode!
[17:22] <mrand> aahz: have you tried different themes?  If none of them meet your needs, it's time modify the xml of one that is closest to what you like ;-)
[17:31] <aahz> mrand: thanks, for the input. i think i'll try that.
[17:59] <dewman>  is there preferred default settings that should be used for mytharchive? IE encoding reocrding profiles,etc.
[18:27] <tgm4883> dewman, it's assume the defaults are already set
[18:27] <tgm4883> that is kinda the definitions of default
[21:39] <Azelphur> I have a backend running Mythbuntu 10.04, and I'm trying to get a frontend running Ubuntu 9.10 to connect to it, but it says "Error: MythTV database has newer TV schema (1254) than expected (1244)."
[21:39] <Azelphur> Any idea what I can do? I am using the auto builds from mythtv so they should be the same version :/
[21:54] <gregl> AZelphur: All your frontends and backends need to be running the same version..You will have to upgrade all your machines to the same version..
[21:54] <Azelphur> gregl: but they are all running off the mythbuntu repo
[21:54] <Azelphur> doesn't the mythbuntu repo have the newer versions of myth for the older versions of ubuntu?
[21:54] <mrand> Azelphur: there is a 9.10 auto-builds for 0.23, but you ahve to select it.
[21:55] <Azelphur> I did select it
[21:56] <Azelphur> I went to the mythtv autobuilds section, grabbed the mythtv repos deb, installed it, selected 0.23
[21:56] <Azelphur> then installed the frontend
[21:56] <Azelphur> and that's what I ended up with :(
[21:56] <gregl> do a mythfrontend  --version in a terminal on each machine and you will see they don't match..
[21:56] <Azelphur> they actually do match, that's the weird thing
[21:57] <Azelphur> oh wait, no they don't lol
[21:57] <mrand> Azelphur: what about the backend version then?  Something isn't matching.
[21:57] <Azelphur> yea, the frontend on the 9.10 doesn't match, \o/
[21:57] <Azelphur> and yea I can see it says it's 0.22, maybe I did something wrong.
[21:58] <mrand> and then after selecting 0.23, did you do an apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade?
[21:59] <mrand> Mythbuntu-control-center makes it really easy.
[21:59] <Azelphur> yea, I did
[22:00] <Azelphur> trying a reboot and then taking another look to see if I can figure out what's going on
[22:00] <Azelphur> trying to get mythtv to run on one of these, hehe http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/2010-06-11%2022.35.06.jpg
[22:00] <Zinn> [dl.dropbox.com]
[22:00] <Azelphur> hense my reluctance to update to 10.04, it won't boot on them for some reason :(
[22:01] <mrand> This should show you what repo and version you have installed, as well as if there is something newer that needs to be installed.  apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend
[22:01] <mrand> bbl
[22:08] <Azelphur> this is interesting, it says mythtv and a bunch of other things have been "kept back" when I try to apt-get upgrade
[22:23] <qwebirc19714> I feel dumb asking this but, I just installed mythbuntu and I can't figure out the root password.  I know the pw I typed in when setting up the system.  It works for synaptic, but not for sudo?  cay anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[22:23] <Azelphur> there is no root password on ubuntu
[22:23] <Azelphur> that said, the password for synaptic should be the same as the password for sudo
[22:27] <superm1> Azelphur, dist-upgrade
[22:27] <superm1> that should let it go
[22:27] <superm1> apt-get dist-upgrade that is
[22:28] <Azelphur> yea, just got that far, it's failing during the dist-upgrade now
[22:28] <qwebirc19714> Azelphur, thanks, must be me being a dum a$$,
[22:29] <Azelphur> lol