[00:00] <Fyffi> hi.. if i have some app installed from software center and i want to compile the same app.. because the app from software center is old.. do i have to remove the app first before compiling?
[00:00] <peque> Fyffi: depends on the app and the changes between versions, but generally its better to uninstall the older version
[00:01] <Onepamopa> Fyffi the easy thing will be to try to compile it directly
[00:01] <Fyffi> the thing is that if i remove it.. it will remove some other apps.. and i dont want to reinstall the other apps back manually after
[00:01] <peque> Fyffi: notice doing that you'll sometimes loose the shortcut in the app menu, so you'll need to create it again
[00:01] <Onepamopa> it will tell u when something is missing
[00:01] <CynthiaG> In Ubuntu Lucid, opening the video editor PiTiVi and adding files gives me the error "This file cannot be used with PiTiVi", and the details include something about "no random access within the file" being available. Is PiTiVi usable in Ubuntu Lucid, and if so, how? What I've tried is installing all the gstreamer0.10* packages.
[00:01] <Onepamopa> Fyffi just ./configure then make
[00:02] <Onepamopa> without uninstalling the old app
[00:02] <peque> Fyffi: install it without remove it
[00:02] <Onepamopa> the new wont be installed untill u issue make install
[00:02] <fluggo> CynthiaG: what kind of video is in the file?
[00:02] <Fyffi> ok..  thanks.. i hope they will not interfere in any way
[00:02] <Onepamopa> that way u can check if u will actually be able to compile the app, and if not - what it needs to be compiled
[00:02] <CynthiaG> fluggo: DivX, XviD, MPEG-4, MPEG-2, MPEG-1, H.264, Flash video (On2 VP6)
[00:03] <Onepamopa> Fyffi the compiler will tell u "XXX is missing" or something like that
[00:03] <CynthiaG> [I've tried with different files to no avail for all]
[00:04] <Fyffi> i know.. i have already been compiling stuff for 10 hrs or more.. i just wanted to know if i should remove the old apps first.. i havent dont it.. but i just wanted to be sure what was the correct way :)
[00:04] <fluggo> CynthiaG: well, that exhausts my knowledge of PiTiVi :P
[00:04] <CynthiaG> fluggo: No worries :)
[00:04] <guntbert> !u | Onepamopa
[00:05] <Onepamopa> thanks ;)
[00:07] <Serraphyn> Appl6 Gee: either of you get sound working?
[00:07] <Rodensky> how do i ping a website in the terminal?
[00:08] <prince_jammys> ping google.com
[00:08] <Rodensky> thank you :)
[00:08] <prince_jammys> cntrl-c to stop
[00:08] <thune3> peque: looks like DejaDup does incremental backups. otherwise maybe look at rsync front ends 'apt-cache search rsync' shows a list of some packages that might be what you want.
[00:09] <peque> thune3: thanks, I'll take a look at them :)
[00:10] <Octo_> I ran the "check disk" option from the ubuntu cd and it told me there was 1 error, without elaborating. what do?
[00:11] <nickee_> What is the proper way to get Adobe Flash running in 64 bit KUbuntu Linux with Firefox on a 64 bit AMD processor?
[00:11] <nickee_> Adobe says they have discontinued work on their 64 bit version for now.
[00:11] <nickee_> Adobe says they have discontinued work on their 64 bit version for now.
[00:11] <nickee_> Is it ok to use the only version of AF 10.1 they make available for linux on a KUbuntu 10.4 AND 64 bit version, running FF?
[00:12] <trevjs> is there a preference file for rythmnbox that can be edited by hand?
[00:12] <eltawargy> please my laptop wireless not working with the latest ubuntu 10.04 , amilo li 1718
[00:12] <guntbert> Octo_: 1) check if the iso was ok 2) if no redownload and check again 3) burn it again (maybe with a lower speed)
[00:12] <nickee_> On #firefox,  here is some info:
  nickee_: 32 bit won't work by default, your distro may have a way to run 32 bit firefox or a program called nspluginwrapper can allow you to run 32 bit flash in 64 bit firefox
[00:13] <liam_wullfin> Is there a simple way to record what is being played through the headphones?
[00:13] <eltawargy> please my wireless not working theros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[00:13] <sebsebseb> eledesmar: Did it work with previous versions?
[00:13] <sebsebseb> eltawargy: ^
[00:13] <eltawargy> sebsebseb, no his is the first version of ubuntu i use
[00:14] <sebsebseb> oh
[00:14] <sebsebseb> ok
[00:14] <eltawargy> sebsebseb, this is amilo li 1718
[00:14] <Octo_> @guntbert: I think my burning software may be the cuprit. I just received an error saying that one of the files on my burned disc differ from the original.... =x
[00:14] <trevjs> liam: simple, not sure, but with jack and maybe ardour you might be able to figure something out
[00:14] <sebsebseb> eltawargy: so you can try and get it working natively,  or using Windows wireless driver in Ndiswrapper
[00:14] <eltawargy> sebsebseb, this is atheros
[00:14] <guntbert> !md5sum | Octo_ please check!
[00:14] <sebsebseb> !atheros | eltawargy
[00:15] <An_Ony_Moose> are tarbombs still in any way dangerous?
[00:15] <sebsebseb> eltawargy: can probably configure it and get it working then
[00:15] <manuel_> Hi, I need some help with installing my SSD firmware. I want to do it using a thumbdrive. Can anyone help?
[00:16] <Octo_> I'm reading those guides now, I was burning a copy of the iso to transfer to the new computer and received that error message from the burning software
[00:16] <CynthiaG> Octo_: So the burning software re-read your CD and saw that it was bad already. Check for scratches and dust on it. You may have to reburn the CD; check for scratches and dust on the new one. Burn slower if possible, too.
[00:17] <CynthiaG> Octo_ (+) If it's a CD-Rewritable ignore what I just said
[00:17] <Octo_> it's a standard cd-r. I'm using a different burner at the moment, maybe that's the problem...
[00:18] <CynthiaG> Octo_: Are you using overburn on a 74-minute (640 MB) CD? What brand of burner is it?
[00:19] <acovrig> Why does `cat /proc/asound/cards` = '--- no soundcards ---' - there is a soundcard in it
[00:19] <hiexpo> guntbert,  hey stranger haven't seen you in a bit
[00:19] <hiexpo> :)
[00:20] <Octo_> Theyre 80min(700mb) cds, and my dvd/cd burner is an old Emprex that I've used forever...
[00:21] <mmfb> From what I'm experiencing it seems that Linux doesn't stop you from installing something a second time. What I'm asking is, will it tell me it's already installed or will Linux install the program a second time?
[00:21] <CynthiaG> Octo_: That's weird. I'd suspect the disc then. But since you say you've used your burner forever, maybe its laser eye thing needs to be cleaned :)
[00:22] <rellis> mmfb: Yes it will stop you.
[00:22] <erUSUL> mmfb: apt will tell you that it is already installed
[00:22] <Octo_> Could be. I'v burned cds and dvds recently without problems though....
[00:22] <TeMagic> hi all
[00:22] <rellis> mmfb: apt-get at the command line reports "postgresql-8.4 is already the newest version"
[00:22] <peque> nickee_: 64 bits native version (experimental): http://www.2shared.com/file/GPxb74Yo/libflashplayer.html (just copy it to "/home/yourusername/.mozilla/plugins/")
[00:22] <erUSUL> mmfb: already at it newest version or some such
[00:22] <Octo_> I'm burning at 8x now, will see what resultare using nfraRcorder
[00:23] <mmfb> rellis: What about .exe programs through Wine?
[00:23] <TeMagic> I have a small problem with the latest 10.04 distro. I removed the network icon from the top panel by accident and I have no idea how to get it back up there, is there anybody that can help me? much appriciated. thanks
[00:23] <peque> nickee_: it is from adobe, I uploaded it as I haven't found where a downloaded it the first time xD
[00:23] <rellis> mmfb: oh, i have no idea at all
[00:23] <hiexpo> Octo_, it's not a cd prob its ubuntu i quit burning with ubuntu now and use another distro it does not work
[00:23] <sebsebseb> !panels | TeMagic
[00:23] <kbrosnan> peque: that has known and active security issues
[00:23] <anthony> TeMagic: I have the same problem, except mine wasn't removed by accident. It disappeared when I upgraded to Lucid.
[00:23] <TeMagic> sebsebseb: thanks
[00:23] <acovrig> Why does `cat /proc/asound/cards` = '--- no soundcards ---' - there is a soundcard in it
[00:23] <sebsebseb> TeMagic: np
[00:23] <nasalator> mmfb: should be the same like in win, no?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> !panels | anthony
[00:24] <peque> kbrosnan: sorry?
[00:24] <CynthiaG> peque: Adobe removed the 10.0x beta Flash Player for Linux 64-bit
[00:24] <prince_jammys> mmfb: a command like ''apt-get install'' will update an already installed package, if there's an update available.
[00:24] <CynthiaG> [+ from Adobe Labs, that is]
[00:24] <peque> CynthiaG: didnt know about that, why did they?
[00:24] <CynthiaG> peque: Released 10.1
[00:24] <anthony> sebsebseb: Thanks a lot -- it's perfect.
[00:24] <acovrig> !sound
[00:24] <TeMagic> sebsebseb: works like a charm. thank you! :)
[00:24] <CynthiaG> peque: And they kind of stopped developing on 10.0x for 64-bit, for both Linux and Windows Vista+
[00:24] <thune3> liam_wullfin: see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio   instructions "ALSA Monitor Source" for capturing Pulse output
[00:25] <TeMagic> good nite all
[00:25] <sebsebseb> TeMagic:  anthony np
[00:25] <peque> CynthiaG: thanks for the info
[00:25] <mmfb> I know this is pretty simple, but what does sudo mean? Is it a command that you place before any command in the terminal to let the terminal know you have root admin access?
[00:25] <hiexpo> Octo_, but small iso's work hugh   :)
[00:25] <CynthiaG> peque: You're welcome
[00:25] <foxmulder881> mmfb; exactly.
[00:26] <Octo_> hiexpo, do you mean stop trying to get Ubuntu to install or just stop trying to burn in Ubuntu?
[00:26] <prince_jammys> mmfb: sudo allows you to gain the run commands as another user. if you don't specify who, you run commands as administrator (superuser)
[00:26] <prince_jammys> mmfb: err, 'gain the privileges of another user, or run commands as another user', i mean.
[00:26] <CynthiaG> Octo_: I've found that I need to use 'cdrecord -sao FILE.iso' for an Ubuntu ISO to not error out with "I/O request failed". The default is Track-at-Once mode, you need Session-at-Once aka Disc-at-Once burning
[00:26] <acovrig> its a built-in card
[00:27] <hiexpo> Octo_, stop trying to burn in ubuntu it don't work i wasted 50 cd's to figure itout
[00:27] <tic^> !sudo | mmfb
[00:27] <nickee_> kbrosnan: hi, didn't know you were in #ubuntu too, so I din't ask you my follow up question: do you know the proper way for adobe flash _in ubuntu_? - your other anwer was general, not specific to ubuntu.
[00:27] <nickee_> !flash
[00:27] <bastid_raZor> Octo_: try k3b  i find it does a bit better than brasero
[00:27] <Octo_> I"m burning on an XP system at the moment. CynthisG: I'll double check the SAO..
[00:27] <CynthiaG> hiexpo [re Octo_]: maybe in Ubuntu Karmic with Brasero - this *indeed* doesn't work so well
[00:28] <mmfb> How can I have terminal understand my login (mmfb) as the default "root"?
[00:28] <CynthiaG> hiexpo: but with cdrecord it works well, at least on a CD-Rewritable
[00:28] <prince_jammys> mmfb: easy: don't do that.
[00:28] <banker247> if my host is localhost how do i find out my exact host name?
[00:28] <mimic18> its good
[00:29] <k0d3g3ar> banker247, did you take a look in /etc/hosts?
[00:29] <prince_jammys> banker247: looks like you found it :)
[00:29] <prince_jammys> !hostname
[00:29] <hiexpo> CynthiaG,  show me i can not make it work yet but i am an amateur  to unix
[00:29] <banker247> eh?
[00:29] <banker247> localhost is it?
[00:29] <prince_jammys> banker247: yes, see the bot's message for how to change it.
[00:30] <Octo_> If it weren't for Richard Butler's singing to me, I'd be trashing my computer out of frustration... =/
[00:30] <CynthiaG> hiexpo: keep the path where you saved the Ubuntu ISO in mind; open a !terminal, type 'cd PATHHERE' <Enter>, then 'cdrecord -sao ubuntu-VERSION-desktop-i386.iso' <Enter>
[00:31] <CynthiaG> no quotes, and type !terminal in here if you don't know how to access a terminal
[00:31] <hiexpo> CynthiaG,  cd record is the prob
[00:31] <electro_> spinning live..  http://bildz.dyndns.org:8000/listen.m3u  will take requests
[00:31] <Korcia> hi, yesterday, after upgrading gloobus preview my volume slider has changed into something black and with extrange behaviour, does anyone something about it?
[00:32] <CynthiaG> hiexpo: if the terminal outputs "cdrecord: command not found", it might have given you a package to install with a command like 'sudo apt-get ...'; type that first, then retry cdrecord
[00:32] <manuel_> Can anyone help me make my usb thumb drive a bootable disk for my SSD firmware?
[00:32] <wells> hi all
[00:32] <CynthiaG> !hi | wells
[00:32] <MaT-dg> is the 64bit flashplugin vulnerable by the huge security hole recently discovered?
[00:33] <Kane_Hart> is sudo apt-get update to update the system?
[00:33] <CynthiaG> MaT-dg: it's better to act as if it were. however, Adobe removed the 64-bit Linux player from the Adobe Labs site
[00:33] <Kane_Hart> or just installed packages
[00:33] <prince_jammys> banker247: i have for example in my /etc/hosts: 127.0.1.1 styx , and /etc/hostname: styx
[00:33] <VCoolio> Kane_Hart: neither, just update repository database
[00:33] <Kane_Hart> ahh
[00:33] <hiexpo> CynthiaG,  i am just ne a wise guy to amateur i am just an ole guy lol
[00:33] <Kane_Hart> is there a command to update everything on the system?
[00:33] <MeanEYE> Kane_Hart, no... update just pulls changes from repos... upgrade is for that
[00:34] <VCoolio> Kane_Hart: apt-get upgrade
[00:34] <prince_jammys> banker247: you need not delete the line that says 'localhost'
[00:34] <CynthiaG> Kane_Hart: It's to update dpkg's list of packages according to changes in the mirror you chose. With updated lists you can run 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[00:34] <Kane_Hart> whats the trigger for yes to all :)?
[00:34] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get update
[00:34] <Kane_Hart> something like -y
[00:34] <MeanEYE> Kane_Hart, sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:34] <MeanEYE> :D
[00:34] <CynthiaG> Kane_Hart: yes, -y, or the long option --yes
[00:34] <hiexpo> -y
[00:34] <Kane_Hart> perfect ty all :) I love learning this stuff =)
[00:34] <prince_jammys> or even --assume-yes
[00:34] <peque> does anybody uses gnash or other alternative to adobe flash player?
[00:35] <wells> I need to remember the console command to record live from mic to hdd?
[00:35] <hiexpo> !adobe
[00:35] <Emanon> ok all i have my turntable plugged in through the "Line" input and it is registering on the meter in pulseaudio but im getting no sound from line in playing out any ideas?
[00:35] <tripelb> how do I forcequit chrome?
[00:35] <MeanEYE> :D haha... wells cat /dev/dsp >somefile.raw :P
[00:35] <MeanEYE> tripelb, ps -A|grep chrome... then kill -9 procid
[00:35] <prince_jammys> yuck
[00:35] <Emanon> tripelb: in terminal 'killall -9 chrome'
[00:35] <MeanEYE> tripelb, even faster killall -9 chrome
[00:35] <MeanEYE> :D
[00:35] <hiexpo> sudo killall chrome
[00:35] <prince_jammys> ouch
[00:36] <wells> tkx MeanEYE
[00:36] <tripelb> ah chrome itself gave me an option, but I'll save those. Thanks
[00:36] <CynthiaG> Yay triple replies :)
[00:36] <CynthiaG> wells: Isn't it 'arecord' ?
[00:36] <MeanEYE> wells, np :D but... I don't think that works :D ... it was an old way :D...
[00:36] <Emanon> so no ideas why my line input wont output to speakers?
[00:37] <MaT-dg> CynthiaG: I know... bastards.. now I have to choose between a possible vulnerable, but good working plugin but without hardware acceleration and a safe plugin with hardware acceleration but prolly bugged because it's 32bit
[00:37] <MeanEYE> Emanon, priv pls?
[00:37] <Emanon> go ahead MeanEYE
[00:37] <wells> CynthiaG:  I will google on that
[00:37] <CynthiaG> MaT-dg: hopefully someone's already working on a guide to replace 64-bit Flash with 32-bit + how to install all the necessary 32-bit compatibility programs
[00:38] <wells> ubuntu cat command
[00:39] <MaT-dg> CynthiaG: hopefully devs are working hard on HTML5 support so I can ditch all flash crap altogether ;)
[00:39] <linith> oi
[00:39] <CynthiaG> MaT-dg: heh, that would also be cool :)
[00:40] <mbana> how do i force `passwd` to stop being so strict about passwords?
[00:40] <prince_jammys> you don't
[00:40] <mbana> well i want to
[00:40] <MeanEYE> MaT-dg, google published VP8 codec, and you can access some of the youtube by joining html5 beta at youtube.com/html5
[00:40] <naptastic> mbana, you mean the quality of passwords?
[00:40] <mbana> naptastic: yes
[00:41] <mbana> NEVERM IND
[00:41] <Akiraa> Is there a GUI for grub or grub2?
[00:41] <mbana> sudo passwd worked
[00:41] <naptastic> mbana, sudo passwd will change the root user's password...
[00:42] <mbana> no, sudo passwd mbana
[00:42] <manuel_> What is a good virtual drive mounting program for ubuntu?
[00:42] <MeanEYE> Akiraa, for configuration?
[00:42] <naptastic> mbana, the solution to your question is in "man passwd" or "man login.conf"
[00:42] <MeanEYE> manuel_, you can manually mount it from terminal...
[00:42] <bastid_raZor> manuel_: `mount`
[00:42] <MeanEYE> :D haha
[00:42] <tripelb> I've got CPU history at 100% (9.10) and little running. (this, 3x gedit, and movie player paused)
[00:42] <Korcia> Akiraa:  for grub2 GDM2Setup
[00:42] <MeanEYE> mbana, although it's not smart to change root password
[00:42] <Akiraa> MeanEYE: yes, ubuntu installed on my system, but the boot menu does not contain the pre-existing OSs
[00:42] <MaT-dg> MeanEYE: but webm is only enabled in FF's nightlies
[00:43] <VCoolio> Akiraa: for grub there was startupmanager, for grub2 I'm not sure, gdm2setup is for the login window
[00:43] <MeanEYE> oh, you are ff user...
[00:43] <wells> CynthiaG:  arecord was the command needed tkx nice job
[00:43] <MeanEYE> MaT-dg, sorry, chrome and opera have them... never thought about ff
[00:43] <CynthiaG> wells: You're welcome
[00:43] <MaT-dg> MeanEYE: I have chrome to, but I still prefer FF as main browser (plugins)
[00:44] <MeanEYE> MaT-dg, I understand... sorry :D but... soon ff 3.6 will be out...
[00:44] <tripelb> (9,10) My computer is jammed. _what's up? What can I do?_ It's not chrome. Mem 75%, swap 33%. I've got CPU history at 100% (9.10) and little running. (this, 3x gedit, and movie player paused)
[00:44] <mbana> ok great.  thanks
[00:44] <kelly> can anyone please help me
[00:44] <VCoolio> !ask | kelly
[00:44] <Korcia> Akiraa: in synaptic you can find it: python-gdm2setup
[00:45] <tripelb> me first kelly
[00:45] <laura_> free -m shows that just 100mb (out of 512mb) is free on my machine (not including buffers/cache), even when I have nothing running.  The machine swaps like crazy when I try to load FF.  Top shows that nothing is using more than 2% of my RAM.  Can anyone help me see where my RAM is going?
[00:45] <CynthiaG> No 'me first's in this channel; everyone's question has the same priority and will be answered if someone knows an answer :)
[00:45] <VCoolio> tripelb: what process does top point to as bad/
[00:45] <kelly> i cant enable desktop effects and i have a 1 gb nvidia gforce gtx 280
[00:46] <MeanEYE> kelly, did you install nvidia drivers?
[00:46] <tripelb> VCoolio, I dont understand top? I am quoting "system monitor" so nothing is labeled "bad"
[00:46] <CynthiaG> !nvidia > CynthiaG
[00:46] <CynthiaG> !nvidia | kelly
[00:46] <kelly> yes i am pretty sure
[00:46] <CynthiaG> Was checking if !nvidia was a trigger.
[00:46] <ramiro> hi
[00:46] <VCoolio> tripelb: system monitor isn't really good; run 'top' in a terminal and see what process uses most cpu
[00:47] <tripelb> !nvidia |tripelb
[00:47] <VCoolio> tripelb: htop is even better, but isn't installed by default
[00:47] <prince_jammys> the bot responds to /msg
[00:47] <ramiro> is there a way to compare 2 directory structures, but not the files themselves? (for example what diff -ur dir1 dir2 would do, but only check filenames and sizes, not contents)
[00:47] <tripelb> VCoolio, um chrome. which isnt running.
  yes i am pretty sure
[00:48] <JessD> Hello all.  Is there any way to tie 10.04's indicator applet to gmail w/out using evolution?
[00:48] <Octo_> when the MD5SUMS guide say to download the md5sums file, is it the .txt file? that's the only fle I ca find on the site it points to...
[00:48] <dean_> hey, does anyone know how to make my jack control pick up the guitar I'm playing through the USB? It runs but whenever it opens it shows in sound preferences that it doesn't hear any sound
[00:48] <MeanEYE> kelly, try running compiz --replace --debug from terminal and see what it says
[00:48] <VCoolio> tripelb: the process is running if top says so, only the window isn't there anymore; do 'pkill chrome' or 'kill pid' where pid is the first number on the line in top for chrome
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Octo_: hiexpo CynthiaG  K3B is good for burning ISO's  and so on.   I know I am replying to a little while ago here, but nevermind I guess.
[00:48] <JessD> ramiro : You can redirect ls out to text files, then diff the text files
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Octo_: so trying to burn a Ubuntu CD yeah?
[00:48] <CynthiaG> Octo_: if you open that .txt file and you see hashes of 32 characters and file names, then that's the md5sums file
[00:48] <tripelb> VCoolio, I did killall -9 chrome
[00:49] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[00:49] <MeanEYE> JessD, did you check software center... there's plenty of gmail indicators there
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Octo_: see above link :)
[00:49] <kelly> MeanEYE    it says compiz (core) - Debug: Could not stat() file /home/kelly/.compiz/plugins/libcore.so : No such file or directory
[00:49] <kelly> compiz (core) - Debug: Could not stat() file /usr/lib/compiz/libcore.so : No such file or directory
[00:49] <Akiraa> apparently, ubuntu did not add entries into the boot menu for the existing OSs on my machine, nor does it mount the specific hard disk partitions, what tool can I use to see the names of the different partitions?
[00:49] <seb_> hey was wondering if someone could help me a problem.... i have this other computer and i installed mandariva on it but when i my computer boots up it goes directly back to windows vista???
[00:49] <JessD> MeanEYE : Yes, but I don't want a second piece of software.  Plenty of those
[00:49] <tripelb> VCoolio, looks good. Thanks for the _top_ comment. (lol)
[00:49] <freud> is there a log file that shows user actions in ubuntu(cli commands, file saved, chmod, such things)
[00:49] <MeanEYE> kelly, private... don't want to polute :D the main chat here
[00:50] <sebsebseb> seb_: yay another seb
[00:50] <sebsebseb> seb_: right so you want Mandriva help?
[00:50] <Keith-BlindUser> Does anyone know how to update the Ubuntu menu cache for custom installed packages?
[00:50] <prince_jammys> seb_: heh, where does ubuntu fit into this?
[00:50] <seb_> yes please
[00:50] <sebsebseb> seb_: #mandriva
[00:50] <CynthiaG> seb_: please either ask #mandriva or #grub or #lilo
[00:50] <bastid_raZor> freud: history   command
[00:50] <seb_> right okay but its not a ubuntu problem its a getting linux going problem
[00:50] <Keith-BlindUser> I'm trying to update the menu cache myself, otherwise my menus disappear on the 64-bit box after I log off or reboot my Lucid box for VMware workstation and such.
[00:50] <CynthiaG> grub and lilo are different bootloaders; use the right channel for the loader you have :)
[00:50] <freud> bastid_raZor: cli?
[00:50] <Octo_> ok, then I have the correct file, but when I give the command "md5sum -c MD5SUMS" it says "no such file or directory"
[00:51] <MaT-dg> ok, how to install the 32bit 10.1 flashplugin on 64bit ubuntu? I got the deb from adobe.com.
[00:51] <sebsebseb> seb_: ah ha a Grub problem?
[00:51] <Octo_> I have it pointed to the correct folder
[00:51] <seb_> yee
[00:51] <bastid_raZor> freud: yes, it shows that last 500 or so bash commands
[00:51] <seb_> grub i guess just looking that up on internet now
[00:51] <dean_> does anyone know how to make my jack control pick up the guitar I'm playing through the USB? It runs but whenever it opens it shows in sound preferences that it doesn't hear any sound
[00:51] <sebsebseb> seb_: you will need the #mandriva channel since  Mandriva also uses the old Grub still, and #grub will be like we don't support that only Grub 2
[00:51] <JessD> freud : history is going to show _your_ stuff, not everybody's
[00:52] <JessD> freud : If it's system auditing your looking for, that's not the solution
[00:52] <seb_> okay
[00:52] <seb_> so i have to go to the mandriva server
[00:52] <seb_> thanks
[00:52] <CynthiaG> seb_: wait; that channel might be on freenode too
[00:52] <MeanEYE> seb_, nope... just type /join #mandriva
[00:52] <sebsebseb> seb_: the channel yes, since this one is for Ubuntu
[00:53] <sebsebseb> CynthiaG: it is
[00:53] <sebsebseb> seb_: /join #mandriva
[00:53] <seb_> type it in here?
[00:53] <sebsebseb> seb_: yeah that should do it
[00:53] <prince_jammys> yes
[00:53] <seb_> thanx see ya Seb
[00:54] <sebsebseb> seb_: well  I may end up helping you in there :D
[00:54] <MeanEYE> So anyone willing for beta testing twin-panel file manager in ubuntu (GTK+) :D
[00:54] <sarthor> Hi. i am using Ubuntu Lucid, during installing vmware-server i got there error here, " http://pastebin.com/Su6pdpj4 ",  i was following this guide, http://chrysaor.info/?page=faq#28
[00:54] <Keith-BlindUser> I've attempted update-menus, but not sure if that will work. I keep having to rerun the VMware installer. It manually creates the menu icons, but does not update the menu cache. I cannot find out how to update Ubuntu's menu cache so wondered if you folks knew.
[00:54] <freud> bastid_raZor: can it be had with time stamps aswell? I recently accomplished something(a good thing)but i don't know what of the many things i did that accomplished it for me, so a time stamped history to see what i did just before would be awesome
[00:55] <Keith-BlindUser> Googling "how to update the Ubuntu menu cache isn't helping either.
[00:55] <JessD> MeanEYE : You talking something different from the new dual panel version of Nautilus?
[00:55] <MeanEYE> yup
[00:55] <MeanEYE> more like total commander :D for linux
[00:56] <prince_jammys> freud: e.g.: HISTTIMEFORMAT='%F:%H:%M ' , in your .bashrc
[00:56] <chalk> hi, should the 11N channel be higher or lower, i'm the only person who connects to the router wirelessly
[00:56] <prince_jammys> freud: or even in your current shell, then type 'history'
[00:57] <MeanEYE> chalk, it's best for you to see which channel is least used... that way you'll get the best performance
[00:57] <Gilmar> Grub problem
[00:57] <chalk> MeanEYE, how can i tell?
[00:57] <MeanEYE> chalk, which router?
[00:57] <freud> prince_jammys: thx!
[00:57] <chalk> MeanEYE, it's a netgear router
[00:57] <Gilmar> I upgrade to 10.04 and lost XP
[00:58] <prince_jammys> freud: you can read about the time format string in 'man date'
[00:58] <prince_jammys> freud: and get the time however you like it displayed.
[00:58] <MeanEYE> JessD, not even close to Nautilus... check it out http://freshmeat.net/projects/sunflower
[00:58] <Emanon> forgot, whats the CLI command to reset my panels?
[00:58] <MeanEYE> chalk, hm, routers usually have some scan ...
[00:58] <Gilmar> I need help with grub: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9447596#post9447596
[00:59] <bastid_raZor> !panels | Emanon
[00:59] <Emanon> thanks bastid_raZor
[00:59] <avgbvg> Hi. Which is the right command-line alternative to update-manager: apt-get upgrade, or dist-upgrade? Thanks.
[00:59] <freud> prince_jammys, i started reading man history, but many lines down and still no easy "-x" modifier :)
[00:59] <MeanEYE> avgbvg, dist-upgrade is used when you upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 :D... just upgrade
[00:59] <prince_jammys> freud: 'history' is built in to the shell. details at 'man bash', not 'man history'
[01:00] <MeanEYE> avgbvg, just sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:00] <mazpe_> what package i need to install for PEAR PHP Library
[01:00] <prince_jammys> freud: or even 'help history'
[01:00] <avgbvg> thanks.
[01:00] <MeanEYE> mazpe_, php-pear?
[01:01] <mazpe_> MeanEYE: thats what i though.. i'm trying to install Pandora and after i install php-pear.. it still doesnt find it.
[01:01] <mazpe_> still asking for PEAR PHP Library, PEAR:DB PHP Library and PEAR::XML_RPC PHP Library
[01:02] <tacit> heck
[01:02] <iceroot> MeanEYE: dist-upgrade is not for updating to the next ubuntu-version
[01:02] <MeanEYE> iceroot, it's not?
[01:02] <iceroot> MeanEYE: no
[01:03] <MeanEYE> iceroot,  dist-upgrade - Distribution upgrade, see apt-get(8)
[01:03] <iceroot> MeanEYE: have a look at "man apt-get" to see the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade. what you mean is "do-release-update"
[01:03] <manuel_> How do i update/upgrade my kernel? im on 2.6.32-22-generic.... i need to get 2.6.33.x
[01:03] <MeanEYE> could be :D
[01:03] <MeanEYE> thanx :D
[01:03] <prince_jammys> mazpe_: you might have to install that stuff using pear. try #php, also.
[01:03] <amereservant> I'm having a difficult time matching an exact phrase/string using grep.  Example, I want to find "$var_name =" exactly, but my searches are searching for $var_name and for = independently.
[01:03] <SailorReality> how do I go about removing a previously installed version of Ubuntu? I have a windows ubuntu dual boot on my laptop but I want to uninstall Ubuntu...should I just delete the Ubuntu files in the harddrive on Windows?
[01:03] <tacit> amereservant: What is the full command?
[01:04] <iceroot> MeanEYE: dist-upgrade is updating a package if a dependecies is also getting an update, the normal "upgrade" is not updating a packge if a dependency will also change
[01:04] <amereservant> tacit: sudo grep -r -w "$__CMS_CONN__ =" .
[01:04] <tacit> SailorReality: Just remove the partitions or create new file sytems on them
[01:04] <MeanEYE> iceroot, thanx... :D
[01:04] <prince_jammys> amereservant: single quotes.
[01:04] <mazpe_> install apache-dev to see if it makes a difference
[01:04] <IdleOne> SailorReality: if it is a Wubi install of Ubuntu then you can just go to Add/Remove app in Windows and uninstall wubi
[01:04] <amereservant> prince_jammys: Thank you!
[01:04] <prince_jammys> amereservant: else you expand a (likely empty) bash variable $__Blah
 go to APPLICATIONS>SOFTWARE CENTER> search for the software you want to uninstall and hit the "uninstall" button
[01:04] <SailorReality> tacit: How can I do that from Windows by just deleting the folders that say Ubuntu? Or is it moer complciated
[01:04] <Rorschachdigital> hey guys
[01:04] <SailorReality> yea
[01:05] <SailorReality> ok sweet thanks
[01:05] <Rorschachdigital> is anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[01:05] <manuel_> oops nm
[01:05] <MeanEYE> manuel_, :D it's "remove" now :P
[01:06] <tacit> SailorReality: Control Centre / Administative Tools / Disk Management. Find the ubuntu partitions (usually marked "unknown") and kill them. Note that GRUB won't work after that so you need to re-install the Windows MBR.
[01:06] <prince_jammys> amereservant: the -w is suspicious. consider not using it.
[01:06] <tacit> amereservant: Are you grepping for the occurence of the variable name or for the contents of the variable?
[01:06] <Rorschachdigital> anyone?
[01:06] <amereservant> prince_jammys: Ok, it was what I had found in one example.  The single quotes work though, thank you.
[01:07] <tacit> Rorschachdigital: Probably.
[01:07] <MeanEYE> Rorschachdigital, what seems to be the problem?
[01:07] <amereservant> tacit: I was trying to find where the variable is defined in a series of files.
[01:08] <CynthiaG> amereservant: the definition of a variable is NAME=VALUE, not $NAME=VALUE
[01:08] <Rorschachdigital> im trying to run ubuntu 9.10 on my macbook pro and i cannot find a way to get the sound to work
[01:08] <CynthiaG> amereservant: (+) therefore grep for 'NAME='
[01:08] <ubuntu_> Hello all, my desktop that runs Kubuntu no longer boots, I   get a flashing cursor in the top left hand corner. I got a live disc of Kubuntu, but there is no option to repair the OS, what can I do?
[01:08] <amereservant> CynthiaG: PHP.
[01:08] <MaT-dg> CynthiaG: MeanEYE: well, I installed 10.1 but as expected it's bugged and it doesn't give me hardware acceleration (still stutter and CPU to 200%). Reverted back to 10.0 64bit :)
[01:08] <prince_jammys> CynthiaG: depends on the language.
[01:08] <CynthiaG> amereservant: ah, sorry, thought you were talking about bash :)
[01:09] <Rorschachdigital> ive asked google and tried what some of the posts on there said but nothing has worked
[01:09] <Emanon> yea still no output from Line In
[01:09] <ubuntu_> Can one even repair an OS with a Kubuntu live disk?
[01:09] <MeanEYE> ubuntu_, which os?
[01:09] <prince_jammys> too broad.
[01:10] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: Kubuntu
[01:10] <MeanEYE> ubuntu_, I mean, by repair, what do you mean
[01:10] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: When I boot the puter, all i get is a flashing cursor at the top left hand corner
[01:11] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: That's it
[01:11] <MeanEYE> ubuntu_, and what OSes do you have installed?
[01:11] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: Kubuntu
[01:11] <MeanEYE> ubuntu_, looks like you need to isntall grub..
[01:11] <ubuntu_> How does one do that with a live disk?
[01:12] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: You mean just do a clean install?
[01:12] <MeanEYE> no
[01:12] <MeanEYE> you can install grub separately
[01:12] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: The Kubuntu disc offers me no such option
[01:12] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: Perhaps it is the Ubuntu disc that does so?
[01:12] <MeanEYE> I know... give me a moment to find you a tutorial
[01:12] <Kioho> Hey, anyone got some experience with wine? im trying to launch a .bat from the cmd in wine but i get this weird error... it used to work >_>
[01:13] <infid> i just got a new monitor and plugged it in, how can i get nvidia-settings to recognize it to install the new drivers, etc?
[01:13] <kathe> Kioho what's the error
[01:13] <infid> lucid lynx
[01:13] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: And I just smashed my laptop to bits which ran Xubuntu. The laptop was about 9 months old
[01:13] <Kioho> it says Badrequest
[01:13] <Kioho> and a lot of other stuff... :P
[01:13] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: Sick of it crapping out on me
[01:13] <MeanEYE> ubuntu_, being aggressive doesn't help :D really :)... try with this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[01:13] <kathe> Kioho pm me the the script
[01:13] <Kioho> okedoke
[01:14] <happyface> is flash 10.1 in a lucid repo yet?
[01:14] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: Neither does   being patient, apparently  But there is satisfaction in destruction  ; - )
[01:14] <MeanEYE> ubuntu_, :D haha, couldn't really tell :D
[01:15] <Glowball> happyface: It is in the partner repository for 32 bit, activate it through Software Sources > Other Software. There is not plugin for 64 bit (yet).
[01:15] <Kentrel> how do I redirect the output of grep to a file so that the search terms are also color encoded, with ANSI or whatever bash uses
[01:15] <Emanon> oh and MeanEYE i get the same thing from the Mic input, registers on the meter but no sound
[01:15] <MeanEYE> Emanon, hm, weird really...
[01:15] <prince_jammys> Kentrel: grep --color=yes foo bar > file
[01:15] <Kentrel> k thanks
[01:15] <MeanEYE> Emanon, but you can play music normally... like mp3 and stuff
[01:15] <sinistrad> I have a problem similar to bug #112518. My problem is that I can't even make it to the switched user.
[01:15] <Emanon> yup
[01:16] <smt> hi folks, just a question, is there a way to upgrade a hardy server install to lucid without changing php version to 5.3?
[01:16] <prince_jammys> Kentrel: you end up with ugly stuff in the file, though.
[01:16] <Kentrel> Yeah, thats cool
[01:16] <mmfb> How do you open directories from the terminal?
[01:16] <Emanon> regular audio from the computer plays just fine but anything from the analog inputs wont passthrough
[01:16] <prince_jammys> mmfb: open how?
[01:16] <Emanon> mmfb: nautilus /your/directory/here
[01:16] <prince_jammys> ah.
[01:17] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: Thanks for the link but the post does not hekp
[01:17] <ubuntu_> help
[01:17] <MeanEYE> sorry then
[01:17] <Jairo> :P
[01:17] <ubuntu_> MeanEYE: I just get command not found, thanks anyway
[01:17] <happyface> Glowball: thanks - installed it on 64 bit and it works fine
[01:17] <ubuntu_> I remember when you put in a live CD thre used to be an option to repair a broken system
[01:18] <[Screamo]> I am trying to delete a folder in my home folder, but it gives me a permission denied, you are not the owner, and under the permission tab, it says owner: nobody and group: nogroup
[01:18] <[Screamo]> :|
[01:18] <Emanon> and i KNOW it has worked on this computer under linux in the past, its just like they have it muted
[01:18] <Glowball> happyface: Through nspluginwrapper? No, it doesn't work fine. In fact, it sucks. I'm still using the 64 bit alpha for 10.0. Way better.
[01:18] <mmfb> Like a folder. How do you open a folder in terminal? What command will open a folder?
[01:18] <prince_jammys> [Screamo]: you'll have to use sudo to remove it.
[01:18] <iceroot> mmfb: cd
[01:18] <[Screamo]> ok
[01:19] <happyface> Glowball: yeah nsplugin... hmm
[01:19] <CynthiaG> [Screamo]: rm -r ~/foldername, in a terminal
[01:19] <[Screamo]> yea i know..
[01:19] <MeanEYE> [Screamo], actually it's rm -Rf :)
[01:19] <mmfb> iceroot: I mean like it'll open the folder in it's own window. Not let me access it from terminal.
[01:19] <CynthiaG> mmfb: what command will change to a folder for the terminal, or open a window to that folder?
[01:19] <Guest69552> hello\
[01:19] <CynthiaG> mmfb: 'nautilus foldername' then
[01:19] <iceroot> mmfb: nautilus foldername
[01:20] <[Screamo]> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[01:20] <[Screamo]> fff
[01:20] <CynthiaG> [Screamo]: what is the command you entered?
[01:20] <prince_jammys> [Screamo]: quote the name of the directory if it has characters like '('
[01:21] <iceroot> [Screamo]: use tab to automaticly quote the directory
[01:21] <Glowball> happyface: Before you look for that - note that 10.0 has a severe security flaw that won't be fixed by Adobe. (The fix is in 10.1, but there's no updated 10.0 available)
[01:21] <[Screamo]> yeah it still does it
[01:21] <[Screamo]> im just gonna take the lazy way out and root nautilus
[01:21] <[Screamo]> :/
[01:21] <prince_jammys> [Screamo]: show the actual command.
[01:21] <luka> what codecs do i need to install in order to play any audio and video files plz
[01:22] <Emanon> and Glowball you're right the 64 bit alpha kicks alot of butt
[01:22] <ship> hi
[01:22] <Emanon> luka: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:22] <CynthiaG> luka: depends on the files involved; just to be sure, just 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer-0.10*' :)
[01:22] <nijelshp> hey
[01:22] <iceroot> luka: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a overkill for codecs
[01:22] <dv6000> Hey Nijel
[01:22] <dv6000> Hellppp
[01:22] <Glowball> Emanon: I wonder why Adobe doesn't support it in 10.1...
[01:23] <luka> mp3, avi, mpeg, asf, wmv
[01:23] <luka> divx, xvid,ac3
[01:23] <dv6000> I cannot get my wireless to work, can anyone please help me? I'm VERY new to Ubuntu.
[01:23] <iceroot> luka: w32codecs is what you want (or w64codecs) if using amd64
[01:23] <rottenstock> hola
[01:23] <luka> ok thanks
[01:24] <prince_jammys> !wireless | dv6000
[01:24] <Guest69552> how can i speed up my boot time on 10.04? its almost 40 seconds
[01:24] <rikkimaru> when i open my sd card as a file and seek to the end it only has 512 kb. but the card is 4 gigs. what did i break? ---
[01:25] <MeanEYE> Guest69552, 10.04 has really fast boot times unless you installed additional services...
[01:25] <[Screamo]> is it just me, or does it seem like using a higher resolution uses ore CPU/RAM
[01:25] <[Screamo]> *more
[01:25] <Guest69552> i like JUST installed this one
[01:25] <MeanEYE> [Screamo], shouldn't be like that...
[01:26] <Glowball> 40 seconds is even slower than the 700MHz machine I have
[01:26] <[Screamo]> Well maybe its just me :/
[01:26] <MeanEYE> Yeah, it's really slow
[01:26] <MeanEYE> for Ubuntu
[01:26] <Glowball> (From GRUB to usable - 35 seconds)
[01:26] <Kane_Hart> is there an apache help channel?
[01:26] <iceroot> Kane_Hart: #httpd
[01:26] <Kane_Hart> ty
[01:26] <Guest69552> well
[01:26] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: Do you hear a *lot* of noise coming from your hard drive? Should sound like KKKKRRRRR if so
[01:26] <nijelshp> dv6000: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[01:26] <Guest69552> is there anything i can do  to help it?
[01:26] <dv6000> Lifesaver
[01:26] <Guest69552> no i dont cynthia
[01:27] <Guest69552> brand new netbook
[01:27] <[Screamo]> it takes my comp about 35 seconds after i login and see the background image for the panels and icons to show up :/
[01:27] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: Ah, a netbook. So it has a solid-state drive, or does it still have a hard drive?
[01:27] <Guest69552> hard drive
[01:27] <[Screamo]> not to mention the 1min+ from grub to login screen
[01:27] <ubutom_> Guest69552, netbooks are not very fast machines
[01:27] <rottenstock> I've got my iphone hooked up and rythmbox running and its working as far as detecting, but i can edit track numbers via the properties option...anyone else have this issue?
[01:27] <Glowball> Did you try to reboot? ureadahead seems bugged and needs extra reboots after updating things to regain speed.
[01:28] <Guest69552> well, linux mint boots in 25 seconds
[01:28] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: netbooks are designed with power efficiency/battery longevity in mind, above performance. however, if you want to track down the culprit, install bootchart and look for charts in /var/something-or-other/bootchart. I'll get the path if you want.
[01:28] <Guest69552> arch linux in 20
[01:28] <Guest69552> i have bootchart
[01:28] <Glowball> Anyway, I should be going, actually. Bye.
[01:29] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: once you have the culprit tracked down, though, uninstalling bootchart might actually make your startup faster
[01:29] <Kioho> anyone had any problems with running .bat files with wine after installing new graphic drivers ? :o can't see how that would affect wine in that manner tho
[01:30] <Guest69552> how would i know what the culprit is?
[01:30] <nijelshp> dv6000: http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2009/01/16/how-to-remove-ubuntus-password-keyring/
[01:31] <MeanEYE> Kioho, what kind of problems
[01:31] <Guest69552> how would i know what the culprit is anyways>?
[01:31] <MeanEYE> Guest69552, http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=define:culprit&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[01:32] <infid> i just got a new monitor and plugged it in, how can i get nvidia-settings to recognize it to install the new drivers, etc?
[01:32] <MeanEYE> infid, just start nvidia-settings... it should recognize it
[01:33] <infid> MeanEYE: it still shows my old one's name
[01:33] <infid> MeanEYE: do i have to hit 'detect monitor'?
[01:33] <mmfb> Does anyone here play EVE Online through Wine? If so can you walk me through the steps?
[01:33] <Guest69552> lol i know what a culprit is
[01:33] <MeanEYE> infid, hm, try that... otherwise... restart should show right name and resolutions
[01:33] <Guest69552> but how do i know what program is slowing down my boot
[01:33] <MeanEYE> Guest69552, well bootchart should say what takes the most time to load...
[01:34] <Freeaqingme> Hi. Since I upgraded to 10.04 ubuntu lets me type caps only after I press shift every one in 4 times or so. Switched keyboard already but problem persists
[01:34] <wildbat> mmfb, goto #winehq or get me a account i will tell you XD
[01:34] <infid> MeanEYE: restart as in reboot?
[01:34] <MeanEYE> yup
[01:35] <Guest69552> dont see where..
[01:35] <Guest69552> oh wait
[01:35] <Guest69552> like the bars that go all the way across?
[01:36] <MeanEYE> By: CynthiaG: " if you want to track down the culprit, install bootchart and look for charts in /var/something-or-other/bootchart. I'll get the path if you want."
[01:37] <subone> Is there no way to listen to MySpace music on linux?
[01:37] <Guest69552> uhm
[01:37] <admin379> hi anyone know how to deal with broadcom drivers.. im using ubuntu 10.04 i have a dell e6500
[01:37] <Guest69552> still doesnt answer my question
[01:38] <MeanEYE> Guest69552, You'll have to ask CynthiaG... I've never user bootchart
[01:38] <sinistrad> !wifi | admin379
[01:38] <JayBond> hello
[01:39] <ubutom_> !broadcom
[01:39] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: you have the image from bootchart in front of you?
[01:40] <sinistrad> ubutom_, even better!
[01:40] <Guest69552> ..
[01:40] <rikkimaru> my sd card shows up as having negative unallocated space in gparted
[01:40] <rikkimaru> anyone have any idea how that could happen?
[01:40] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, fat32 filesystem?
[01:40] <ubutom_> ya sinistrad , it repeats itself, many people have boradcom, including me :)
[01:40] <Guest69552> well then..
[01:41] <yashar26> anyone using backtrack here?
[01:41] <ubutom_> lol, boradcom.. broadcom of course
[01:41] <sinistrad> ubutom_, so do I, but I figured the link I had would guide them there, but that is more direct
[01:41] <thewolf> can some one help me use ppa-purge to remove the Ubutnu netbook release... I just keep getting error
[01:41] <MeanEYE> yashar26, this is #ubuntu, not?
[01:41] <MeanEYE> thewolf, what kind of error?
[01:42] <yashar26> yeah however there is no IRC for backtrack
[01:42] <Susuzinha> Oiii
[01:42] <prince_jammys> yashar26: #remote-exploit
[01:42] <yashar26> ok cool
[01:42] <Guest69552> yes i have the image from bootchart infront of me
[01:42] <thewolf> Could not find list for ppa... I've tried diffreint formats but nothing
[01:42] <prince_jammys> yashar26: err, #backtrack-linux
[01:42] <gartuz> Hay alguna forma de ver archivos .camrec en Ubuntu?
[01:42] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: could you upload this image to Imageshack?
[01:43] <Guest69552> yeah
[01:43] <CynthiaG> !es | gartuz
[01:43] <MeanEYE> gartuz, english?! :D please
[01:43] <prince_jammys> !es | Guest69552
[01:43] <Susuzinha> eu naun consigo entender nada disso aki :O
[01:43] <ubutom_> sinistrad, I think it can be both a good entry point, it complements each other
[01:43] <thewolf> MeanEYE
[01:43] <MeanEYE> thewolf, yes?
[01:43] <thewolf> any help?
[01:44] <MeanEYE> thewolf, you need to be a bit more specific... what did you try to do... when this error happened, which version of Ubuntu you have installed :D stuff like that :D
[01:44] <admin379> i see to have touchpad errors with the mouse/cursor..seems to do better using chromium..but with firefox differnt story
[01:44] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone how do you activate the xorg config wizard that lets you set the video resolutions?
[01:44] <MeanEYE> THE_GFR|WORK, from console?
[01:44] <Susuzinha> adc msn : suuh_susuziinha@hotmail.com
[01:45] <dv6000> Um.. my wireless driver has mysteriously disappeared. Anyone know how i can reinstall it?
[01:45] <THE_GFR|WORK> MeanEYE: YES
[01:45] <THE_GFR|WORK> oops caps sorry
[01:45] <Guest69552> 1 sec cynthiag
[01:45] <CynthiaG> !pt | Susuzinha
[01:45] <THE_GFR|WORK> MeanEYE: yes please :)
[01:45] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, is there a way to restore the partition table?
[01:45] <dj_segfault> Hi.  I'm trying to move Lucid's buttons back where they belong on the right, but I used gconf-edit to set button_layout to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" it doesn't change.  In fact it doesn't change no matter what I set it to.  I even tried rebooting.  The setting persists but so do the buttons.  What can I try?  Thanks.
[01:45] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: Ok
[01:45] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, it only shows 512 kB in windows, when the card is 4GB
[01:46] <CynthiaG> dj_segfault: Did someone show you the !controls factoid before?
[01:46] <thewolf> MeanEYE I ran this in the terminal sudo ppa-purge ppa:launchpad.net/canonical-dx-team/une/ubuntu and it said PPA to be removed (it listed it) Waring: Could not find package list for PPA: (Listed it) and I have 10.04
[01:46] <dj_segfault> CynthiaG: No
[01:46] <CynthiaG> !controls > dj_segfault
[01:46] <sinistrad> rikkimaru, you can use gpart and it will try to find your old partition boundaries
[01:46] <MeanEYE> THE_GFR|WORK, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:46] <Susuzinha> messagen : suuh_susuziinha@hotmail.com
[01:46] <dj_segfault> CynthiaG: thanks, will read
[01:47] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, FAT32 has tendency to mess-up free space... run scandisk on it (from windows)
[01:47] <CynthiaG> You're welcome. I thought someone showed you that factoid before and you just had a problem with persisting the setting. :)
[01:47] <admin379> wow u "guys/gals" r off the hook..thanks for the FREE info..hehe
[01:48] <Guest69552> http://tinypic.co/m/r/1216a6r/6
[01:48] <MeanEYE> thewolf, not sure why you did that... anyone else can help?!
[01:48] <Guest69552> http://tinypic.co/m/r/1216a6r/6
[01:48] <Guest69552> oops
[01:48] <MeanEYE> admin379, you are welcome :D
[01:49] <thewolf> MeanEYE usually everyone ignores me... you started to be helpful so.. but you look busy
[01:49] <MeanEYE> thewolf, ... :D can you come to private chat...
[01:49] <Guest69552> http://www.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1216a6r&s=6\
[01:49] <Guest69552> thats
[01:49] <Guest69552> it :o sorry :P
[01:50] <dj_segfault> CynthiaG: Thanks, that worked.  I have too many years of it being on the right to move them because someday maybe someone will do something with the right.
[01:50] <Guest69552> http://www.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1216a6r&s=6
[01:50] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: tinypic resized your picture so much that the text in it is unreadable
[01:50] <Guest69552> ohh uhm okay
[01:50] <Guest69552> how do i fix that lol
[01:50] <thewolf> MeanEye i've never done that before... don't know how
[01:51] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: go with my initial suggestion of uploading to Imageshack :) and disable resizing to NxN pixels
[01:51] <nsahoo> hi guys. how do I find out at what frequency my processor is running? cat /proc/cpuinfo says "cpu MHz         : 1600.000", dmesg says "Detected 2992.697 MHz processor."
[01:52] <nsahoo> it's actually a Intel Core 2 Quad (Q6600)
[01:52] <BluesKaj> nsahoo, cpu freq stepping is used by default on ubuntu
[01:52] <Mortuis> Got a question, anyone know how to fix this?
[01:52] <Mortuis> http://pastebin.com/7nB9NvZ3
[01:52] <Guest69552> wait so dont resize it at all?
[01:52] <CynthiaG> nsahoo: sounds like your processor temporarily underclocked itself to 1600 MHz due to low load; it will go back to 3000 or so if you load it up
[01:52] <Random832> nsahoo: it probably is set up to run at a lower speed when it's not being fully used
[01:52] <MeanEYE> nsahoo, linux is scaling your frequency... cpuinfo says the current frequency
[01:52] <Random832> since doing nothing three billion times a second is a waste of energy
[01:52] <kelly> i installed my video drivers and now my audio will not work can someone help me?
[01:52] <nsahoo> aha! so, if I put load, it should go back up, right?
[01:52] <Random832> yes
[01:52] <nsahoo> lemme try that and report back
[01:52] <sebsebseb> kelly: video drivers and audio are not linked
[01:53] <MeanEYE> nsahoo, yup!
[01:53] <kelly> well when i installed the video my audio stopped working
[01:53] <Random832> while true; do :; done is a quick way to run up your CPU usage
[01:53] <Mortuis> When I do a ls -al on a particular folder I'm getting lines like "-????????? ? ? ? ?                ? autotalent.so"
[01:53] <chiggins> Hey, I'm getting a problem when running a2ensite.. http://chiggins.pastebin.com/67i82vye .. here is my "test" file...  http://chiggins.pastebin.com/rrbunkRW
[01:53] <MeanEYE> Mortuis, maybe -A switch... if you want ALL
[01:53] <Guest69552> cynthiag http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3610/patricklaptoplucid20100.png
[01:53] <THE_GFR|WORK> MeanEYE: thanks
[01:54] <MeanEYE> THE_GFR|WORK, you are welcome
[01:54] <Mortuis> MeanEYE: I guess I'm just wondering what's with all the question marks
[01:54] <Mortuis> that doesn't look right to me
[01:54] <Random832> Mortuis: what happens if you type 'stat autotalent.so' ?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> kelly: clean install or upgrade or what?
[01:54] <kelly> clean install
[01:54] <mawst> Can someone refresh my memory? Years ago I had a linux pal that could encrypt a file with a single command and then decrypt it with just another command and a password... what can I do this with?
[01:54] <Random832> question marks means it can't read the file information - it's fairly rare for that to happen yet it's still able to get the name
[01:54] <MeanEYE> Mortuis, not sure... should work though...
[01:55] <kelly> sebsebseb   clean install
[01:55] <Random832> mawst: gpg?
[01:55] <prince_jammys> mawst: gpg --out somefile inputfile --symmetric
[01:55] <sebsebseb> kelly: lap top?
[01:55] <Garagegoblin> Anyone know of a good How-to for running Microsoft Office 2007 in wine?  I have tried the #winehq room, but so far no love.
[01:55] <kelly> nope desktop
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: maybe you don't need to
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: depending on which country you are in I guess, theres a Microsoft Office web apps thing now
[01:55] <Mortuis> Random832: I get permission denied, when I do it with sudo I get:  http://pastebin.com/9AsPsvgv
[01:56] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: Aha, that's much better. I'll look at it.
[01:56] <kathe> Garagegoblin i've had no luck with 2007 in wine, i run virtual box now
[01:56] <Guest69552> alright :D thanks
[01:56] <MeanEYE> Garagegoblin, you do know OpenOffice fupports MS Office files?
[01:56] <nsahoo> umm.. it's going up, but, not all the way up
[01:56] <kelly> sebsebseb       clean install i think
[01:56] <Random832> Mortuis: what about ls -ld /usr/lib/ladspa
[01:56] <mawst> thanks guys
[01:56] <Mortuis> Random832: drw-r--r-- 2 root root 4096 2010-06-11 20:12 /usr/lib/ladspa
[01:57] <prince_jammys> mawst: err, --output, not --out.
[01:57] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: Open Office and Koffice and Abiword and Gnumeric do a good job at opening these files, but yes sometimes they will have issues.  Anyway I have known about this for a while, but recently came to UK as well. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/microsoft-have-finally-launched-their.html
[01:57] <nsahoo> I mean I am putting load on it, all the 4 cores are running at near 100 % as shown by top, but, the cpuinfo shows "cpu MHz: 2400.000"
[01:57] <Garagegoblin> MeanEYE thanks,  I do.  Issues that happen between Powerpoint not fun.
[01:57] <MeanEYE> Garagegoblin, ok, sorry:D I was just wondering :D
[01:57] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, scandisk ended instantly and seemingly did nothing. Now when i open the drive and let windows format it says "Unknown capacity" and still fails
[01:57] <kelly> sebsebseb  its a desktop
[01:58] <prince_jammys> mawst: namely: gpg --output somefile --symmetric inputfile
[01:58] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, do you know which filesystem is on sd card?
[01:58] <nsahoo> CynthiaG: Random832 : MeanEYE : I am wondering if cpuinfo detects overclocking correctly
[01:58] <sebsebseb> kelly: ok odd
[01:58] <Random832> nsahoo: wait, you're overclocked?
[01:58] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, i partitioned it and put quite a few on it
[01:58] <sebsebseb> kelly: Which graphics card? Which sound card?
[01:58] <mawst> prince, isn't a pgp key like huge though?
[01:58] <nsahoo> Random832: yes.
[01:58] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, and then ran mkntfs on one of them
[01:58] <Garagegoblin> Thanks everyone for the replies.  Everyone in here is awesome!
[01:58] <mawst> I want something I can type out quickly
[01:58] <Random832> no, cpuinfo doesn't correctly detect an overclocked processor's speed, apparently
[01:59] <sebsebseb> kelly: Desktop tend to work rather well indeed with Ubuntu, unlike lap tops, because of lack of manufacture support.
[01:59] <prince_jammys> mawst: --symmetric just password-encrypts it. you can decrypt with gpg -d
[01:59] <nsahoo> Random832: I see
[01:59] <Guest69552> :O
[01:59] <kelly> sebsebseb    nvidia geforce gtx 280 and my sounds card is on my mother board
[01:59] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: it looks pretty standard, except for the high CPU usage at 23 to 35 seconds (gnome login) and the very low disk throughput at 7 to 11 seconds
[01:59] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, hm, and gparded sees all paritions?
[01:59] <naptastic> Random832, cpuinfo should detect overclocking just fine. It detects my 2000mhz CPU I clocked at 2200mhz
[01:59] <Guest69552> so what do you think the problem ccould be?
[01:59] <g0tcha> hey guys, how can i check which version of python is installed on my ubuntu?
[01:59] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, it did until i mkntfs'd
[01:59] <naptastic> rikkimaru, Are they primary, logical, or LVM partitions?
[02:00] <nsahoo> naptastic: hmm, i wonder if something is limiting the cpu to 2.4
[02:00] <CynthiaG> Guest69552: unfortunately I'm not familiar with the differences between Arch Linux and Ubuntu to tell you what's wrong. Someone else might be able to say that.
[02:00] <nsahoo> GHz
[02:00] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, I think that killed other partitions... not sure though
[02:00] <rikkimaru> naptastic, it used 3 primary, and the last primary had 7 or so extended
[02:00] <MeanEYE> g0tcha, python --version
[02:00] <Guest69552> alright ill go rebot now and see what the time iis..
[02:00] <Guest69552> brb
[02:00] <naptastic> nsahoo, what CPU is this?
[02:00] <CynthiaG> [ Guest69552's problem is that of a slower boot in Ubuntu than in Arch Linux and other distributions. Bootchart provided: http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3610/patricklaptoplucid20100.png ]
[02:00] <Random832> naptastic: it may depend on what cpu - i just know that other people have reported the same thing online
[02:00] <Guest69552> :o
[02:00] <sebsebseb> kelly: ok I asked else where, and was told that if your using a DVI cable the graphics card can take over the audio to
[02:00] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, is there a way to tell if the card is broken or just formatted incorrectly?
[02:01] <nsahoo> naptastic: it's a q6600, I OCed it to 3GHz
[02:01] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, anything important on the card?
[02:01] <CynthiaG> for future reference Guesty, you can just post that bootchart link and ask "why is ubuntu booting slower than arch linux: <link>" :)
[02:01] <naptastic> nsahoo, Intel? And how did you OC it?
[02:01] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, nope
[02:01] <MeanEYE> sebsebseb, DVI can't cary audio signals
[02:01] <mawst> Ok I got it prince_jammys, thanks a lot.
[02:01] <Guest69552> okay lol
[02:01] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, then just erase everything and try making new paritions...
[02:01] <Guest69552> ill brb
[02:01] <nsahoo> naptastic: there is a tape trick for it, you put a tiny (1mm^2) tape on a pin on the chip
[02:02] <MeanEYE> sebsebseb, HDMI on the other hand... can
[02:02] <infid_> i have a dual monitor setup and they were both 1680x1050 and but i just replaced a monitor with one that can do 1920x1080 but when i try to switch it to that res in 'twin-view' part of the right end of the windows spills over into the left monitor. any one know why?
[02:02] <g0tcha> thanks MeanEYE
[02:02] <rikkimaru> MeanEYE, how do i "erase everything", when i open it in fdisk it shows 512Kb total with 0 partitions
[02:02] <naptastic> nsahoo, O_O'''
[02:02] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE: ok kelly has an odd issue, maybe you can help
[02:02] <nsahoo> naptastic: what?
[02:02] <howie> rikki, have you tried looking at it with gparted
[02:03] <MeanEYE> g0tcha, yw
[02:03] <naptastic> nsahoo, wide eyes and sweating bullets :-) I just bumped the FSB of my chip to overclock it. None of this chip modding for me!
[02:03] <rikkimaru> howie, yes, it shows - 512 B
[02:03] <MeanEYE> sebsebseb, hm, pm me?
[02:03] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE:  some cards will detect DVI cables as audio connctions, according to that other guy
[02:03] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE: uh why?
[02:03] <kelly> MeanEYE   well not this card
[02:04] <MeanEYE> sebsebseb, hm, newer cards may support audio... but not over DVI...
[02:04] <admin379> hey, does the broadcom drivers fix any mouse issues on the dell e6500 laptop?
[02:04] <howie> riki, does it show any other partitions sdb, sda up in the top right hand corner?
[02:04] <nsahoo> naptastic: wish this dell machine would have a bios that would let me do that. Just followed some tutorial on the net, rather easy. The hard part was reseating the processor back so that it's uniform and heat dissipation is right
[02:04] <admin379> using ubuntu 10.04
[02:04] <kelly> MeanEYE so how can i get my audio to work
[02:04] <MeanEYE> one moment pls... :D
[02:04] <naptastic> nsahoo, this is an intel chip, yeah?
[02:04] <MeanEYE> I am heaving a hard time follwing:D
[02:04] <nsahoo> naptastic: yes. Intel Core 2 Quad
[02:05] <MeanEYE> rikkimaru, there's a mkfs.vfat command...
[02:05] <nsahoo> naptastic: The Q6600, 2.4GHz per core
[02:05] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: So going to try Microsofts Office web apps or whatever its called?
[02:05] <naptastic> nsahoo, ok cool. The 2400.000 number is suspicious to me, because CPU clocks are rarely that precise
[02:06] <Garagegoblin> sebsebseb:  I am going to first try another install, since wine states that it should work.  I just am not really believing it just yet.
[02:06] <nsahoo> naptastic: you are right, seems like cpuinfo is just reading it off some place. the dmesg is detecting a 2992.697 MHz core
[02:06] <jo-erlend> which download should I get for a Cortex-A8? There seems to be a few different arm(el) images to download?
[02:06] <Garagegoblin> I will keep ya informed
[02:06] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: yeah you can do Office 2007 in Wine
[02:07] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: just may have to set up a bit
[02:07] <naptastic> nsahoo, well there you go :-) A nice fast chip. Quad core @ 3.00 ghz is pretty exciting.
[02:07] <admin379> anyone: dell e6500 touch pad issues with mouse will the broadcom drivers resolve this issue using ubuntu 10.04?
[02:07] <wildbat> rikkimaru, sound like you have a dead card ~ you have another carder reader to test?
[02:07] <nsahoo> naptastic: it is, but, I am unsure if it is actually running that fast when I am , e.g., running my simulation, not really complaining, but, would be nice to save another 20% time
[02:08] <ubutom_> nsahoo, just out of interest, what happens to powermanagement and speed step or cool n quiet after that modification, can the cpu still throttle itself down or is it using more energy now, even when it's idling?
[02:09] <nullbyte> hey I'm installing ubuntu 10 on my desktop. im trying to connect to the internet through a CNet 8-port switch. when I plug the computer directly into the wall the setup works but when i plug into the switch it doesn't find the connection. the same connection works on my windows machine
[02:09] <MeanEYE> nullbyte, tried multiple ports?
[02:10] <psusi> nullbyte, what is the wall?  campus network?  and is this a switch or a router?
[02:10] <g0tcha> hmm how can i see which open ports are open on my ubuntu?
[02:10] <howie> nullbyte, what does ifconfig
[02:10] <nsahoo> ubutom_: umm.. I am no expert, but, these are my observations: the cpuinfo changes with load, before load it was 1600MHz, after 2400. The core temperature of course changes with load quite a bit
[02:10] <MeanEYE> g0tcha, install nmap and then nmap localhost
[02:10] <howie> nullbyte, what does if config state?  does it show an odd ip address?
[02:10] <kelly> MeanEYE     have you found a solution?
[02:10] <ociredeF> hi everyone!
[02:11] <ociredeF> I'd like to know how to upload directories with lftp
[02:11] <nullbyte> campus network. i bought a switch so i can plug multiple computers into the ethernet
[02:11] <MeanEYE> kelly, I don't know what I should be looking for... can you explain it to me in details...
[02:11] <ociredeF> does anybody know how to upload directories with lftp?
[02:11] <ociredeF> mput won't do it
[02:11] <g0tcha> MeanEYE, at the top it says "Not shown: 1683 closed ports" how can i list those as well?
[02:11] <MeanEYE> nullbyte, are there more than one computers on that switch... if so... might be DHCP gives you only one address
[02:12] <g0tcha> using nmap i mean
[02:12] <kelly> MeanEYE    i have a dvi to hdmi my sound was working before we installed the nvidia video and now my audio stopped working
[02:12] <nullbyte> meaneye so how could i fix that
[02:12] <psusi> nullbyte, yea, campus probably only will give you one address
[02:12] <MeanEYE> g0tcha, those are not active... all the ports are defines in services file
[02:12] <MeanEYE> kelly, did you check gnome volume control for different output devices
[02:12] <nsahoo> ubutom_: before load the temperature was around 50, with load it's just over 60
[02:12] <nullbyte> but i am able to connect multiple windows machines
[02:12] <MeanEYE> nullbyte, if DHCP is the case you'll need a router...
[02:12] <g0tcha> MeanEYE, cool.. thanks alot
[02:12] <howie> nullbyte you might need a router, not a switch.. to allow for a single outbound ip..
[02:13] <MeanEYE> g0tcha, yw
[02:13] <psusi> g0tcha, closed means they were tested and found to be closed
[02:13] <nullbyte> but why does it work with windows?
[02:13] <MeanEYE> nullbyte, do you have a domain controler installed on that network?
[02:13] <nullbyte> dunno its a school network
[02:13] <psusi> nullbyte, could be that you started with windows and so they gave windows an address... and now they won't give out another
[02:13] <NZheretic> Help. I cannot get 'pppd' working under dial up.
[02:13] <ubutom_> hm, nsahoo on my desktop I have an e6750, it can be overclocked in bios, but most of the time it just refuses to start or freezes, it's also a question of the right parts, some memory modules can't cope with higher fsb, well, I'm fine as it is atm :) OCing is a science for itself, though it can be worth the work, except for that extreme overclocking with liquid nitrogen or what hey use ;)
[02:14] <psusi> nullbyte, unplug and power down the switch and try again
[02:14] <nullbyte> okay thank you ill try
[02:14] <kelly> MeanEYE      how do i check that?
[02:14] <kathe> psusi just jumping back in, it almost looked like you played a trick on nullbyte
[02:15] <NZheretic> The modem service connects fine , but  ppp0 is not on according to ifconfig
[02:15] <MeanEYE> kelly, gnome-volume-control then look at Hardware tab...
[02:15] <psusi> kathe, eh?
[02:15] <NZheretic> The modem connects fine , but  ppp0 is not on according to ifconfig
[02:15] <paulo> I want to know the exact date when a CD media was recorded. I tried QPxTool (nice software) but it doesn't report this specific info. There is any alternative to get this info?
[02:15] <MeanEYE> NZheretic, do you even have ppp0 in ifconfig?
[02:15] <NZheretic> THjs is under Ubuntu i386 10.4
[02:16] <NZheretic> MeanEYE No. this is using wvdial ( via gnome-ppp ) and pppconfig ( pon poff )
[02:16] <kelly> MeanEYE        how do i get to gnome
[02:17] <drphresh> I just installed xsensors and lm-sensors.  What is a safe CPU temperature range?
[02:17] <MeanEYE> kelly, which system do you have installed... ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:17] <MeanEYE> NZheretic, private?
[02:17] <kelly> MeanEYE     ubuntu 10.04
[02:17] <MeanEYE> drphresh, you have that info in /proc :D
[02:17] <bjhaid> I run asterisk on my ubuntu machine, I would want to know how I can make asterisk run at start-up so if I am not present someone with a poor knowledge of linux can get the asterisk box started by starting the ubuntu machine
[02:18] <MeanEYE> bjhaid, startup as on login?
[02:18] <psusi> drphresh, depends on the cpu, but generally up to 90 C max... 80 C is getting pretty up there
[02:18] <buppa_> "The display driver requires POSIX shared memory to be enabled on the system." <- What does this mean and how do I check if this is enabled on my system?
[02:18] <drphresh> MeanEYE: Do you mean the temperature range, or the temperature itself?
[02:18] <MeanEYE> drphresh, temperature itself
[02:19] <MeanEYE> drphresh, sorry, misread your question
[02:19] <drphresh> MeanEYE: How do I get to /proc ?
[02:19] <kelly> MeanEYE       ubuntu
[02:19] <bjhaid> I run asterisk on my ubuntu machine, I would want to know how I can make asterisk run at start-up so if I am not present someone with a poor knowledge of linux can get the asterisk box started by starting the ubuntu machine
[02:20] <MeanEYE> kelly, ALT+F2... then type gnome-volume-control
[02:20] <MeanEYE> drphresh, neeh, forget it... I misread the question... I thought you wanted to know which is current temperature of your processor
[02:20] <buppa_> "The display driver requires POSIX shared memory to be enabled on the system." <- What does this mean and how do I check if this is enabled on my system?
[02:21] <MeanEYE> buppa_, where did you read that?
[02:21] <kelly> MeanEYE     k i click the hardware tab now what?
[02:22] <buppa_> MeanEYE, here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[02:22] <MeanEYE> kelly, which devices are listed there
[02:22] <kelly> MeanEYE        internal audio
[02:23] <MeanEYE> kelly, that's all?
[02:23] <kelly> MeanEYE        yes that is all
[02:23] <rallias> Can someone send me a copy of what they have as a sources.list file?
[02:23] <MeanEYE> rallias, give me an email :D
[02:23] <MeanEYE> kelly, new drivers obviously don't support audio through your graphic card...
[02:24] <kelly> MeanEYE       so should i get an older driver
[02:24] <bjhaid> MeanEYE yes
[02:24] <tuxxy> hey anyone good with google webmasters tools and robots.txt
[02:25] <IdleOne> !ot | tuxxy
[02:25] <kelly> MeanEYE    i want the audio to play from my motherboard
[02:25] <MeanEYE> kelly, not sure... maybe nvidia drivers unloaded some module for your graphic card...
[02:25]  * tuxxy slaps himself
[02:25] <MeanEYE> kelly, internal audio is used for that...
[02:25] <MeanEYE> bjhaid, ? :D
[02:25] <kelly> MeanEYE     so is there anyything i can do
[02:26] <drphresh> What file in /proc do I open to find my CPU temperature?
[02:26] <drizzt_> buppa_, ls -ld /dev/shm
[02:26] <MeanEYE> tuxxy, shoot!
[02:26] <tuxxy> MeanEYE can I PM?
[02:26] <MeanEYE> tuxxy, sure
[02:26] <MeanEYE> drphresh, give me a sec
[02:26] <tuxxy> think IdleOne will kcik me otherwise heh
[02:26] <paulo> I want to know the exact date when a CD media was recorded. I tried QPxTool (nice software) but it doesn't report this specific info. There is any alternative to get this info?
[02:26] <berry> Greetings ..  Can someone give me some guidance on where to find a package called klibido_0.2.2.2-1_i386.deb?
[02:26] <kbar> hi i'm having some trouble compiling urxvt any1 can help?
[02:26] <no-name> how do you remove/uninstall commercial software in ubuntu?
[02:26] <no-name> in this case, vmware
[02:26] <buppa_> drizzt_, drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 140 2010-06-12 03:15 /dev/shm <- is it enabled?
[02:26] <kbar> no-name, try using synaptic
[02:26] <MeanEYE> drphresh, list all the files in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[02:27] <drizzt_> buppa_, yes
[02:27] <drphresh> MeanEYE: What do you mean by "list"?
[02:27] <buppa_> drizzt_, but when i write "mount | grep "shm"" its says that it isnt enabled
[02:27] <kbar> drphresh, cd into the director, and then ls
[02:27] <pranay_09> unablet to use mic in my system
[02:27] <Appl6> berry: That's a pretty old version; why do you need something that old?
[02:27] <Garagegoblin> ok well good news, apparently now wine will install and run microsoft office.
[02:27] <fedematico> Hello World, I need to know if X-Irc for ubuntu is the best I can have for using IRC on ubuntu. Can you suggest me other IRC software for ubuntu better then X-irc? thank you
[02:28] <no-name> kbar, it only found a couple of components
[02:28] <MeanEYE> drphresh, open terminal... then cd /proc/acpi/thermal_zone ... list files there
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: 2007 has been a while, 2003 has been ages
[02:28] <berry> it was calling for it , but I am open to suggestions.
[02:28] <drphresh> MeanEYE: sorry, I am a complete noob whose computer overheats too often
[02:28] <Appl6> fedematico: GUI: Pidgin, Empathy  command line: irssi
[02:28] <Appl6> berry: "it" was calling for it?  What's "it"?
[02:29] <R3cur51v3> Previews of SVG files don't show up in Nautilus when browsing in "compact" mode. How do I fix this?
[02:29] <wildbat> drphresh, you need better cooling then
[02:29] <kelly> MeanEYE     so what do you think i should do?
[02:29] <pranay_09> ??
[02:29] <Garagegoblin> sebsebseb:  I remember trying it before with issues, but I should have tried it again before bothering everyone.   hahaha sorry.
[02:29] <R3cur51v3> Also, they don't show up in the "Open file" dialog
[02:29] <buppa_> drizzt_, "none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)"
[02:29] <fedematico> Appl6: so I can use irc by Pdgin or Empathy? by typing irssi  THANK YOU Appl6 I try it now after ubuntu update :)
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Garagegoblin: nah no problem, its a support channel
[02:29] <R3cur51v3> Which is what is actually causing a problem for me
[02:29] <MeanEYE> drphresh, pm me... and pls wait a moment... I'll try to find you a solution
[02:29] <MeanEYE> kelly, let me google a bit about that
[02:29] <berry> sorry it was some commands to rebuild kilibido for ubuntu
[02:30] <gonzaloaf> Hello I have many problems with flash pages and firefox in ubuntu 64 bit, is there some workaround to stop suffering?
[02:30] <SlidingHorn> fedematico -- It's really a matter of opinion.  I prefer XChat, but that's not to say that someone else isn't going to whole-heartedly disagree with me
[02:30] <Appl6> berry: You know klibido is in the repos?
[02:30] <biggestchops> anyone in this forum in toronto should come out to the linuxcaffe at harbord and grace for our 5th year anniversary
[02:31] <drizzt_> buppa_, itr means it mounted
[02:31] <Appl6> berry: If you know that, and you need another version for something, then we need to know what it is that you're trying to do.
[02:31] <SlidingHorn> biggestchops -- I'm in Cleveland...I'll start swimming!  :)
[02:31] <sdwrage> is there an Ubuntu OffTopic channel?
[02:31] <berry> sorry kinda new to linux what is repos
[02:31] <kbar>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:31] <kbar> !offtopic
[02:31] <sdwrage> kbar, guess that would make since eh? :P
[02:31] <fedematico> SlidingHorn, I also prefere X-Chat, but I donno how to use IRC via Pdgin or empathy, there's also telepathy irc on ubuntu with python facilities etc...  but Xchat has to be the best or any kinda irc gui better than it?
[02:32] <Appl6> berry: "repos" is short for "repositories", servers that store all the packages you can install from Software Center, Synaptic, apt-get, etc.
[02:32] <kelly> MeanEYE    ok thanks
[02:32] <Appl6> berry: So if you want klibido, you can do "sudo aptitude install klibido" from a terminal, and it will be installed.
[02:32] <Garagegoblin> I am using irc through pidgin, very simple to do
[02:32] <rottenstock> Whats a good audio tag program that supports album art downloading?
[02:32] <SlidingHorn> fedematico -- I'm not a fan of empathy, and I only use pidgin for IM sessions (yahoo, aim, etc).
[02:33] <berry> Ok thyats where I started, but can;t seem to get it to work.. will not download to suscribe to groups
[02:34] <Appl6> berry: Well I have no idea how it works; I've never used it before.
[02:35] <berry> me neither LOL  may I'll try from the terminal
[02:36] <bakingsoda> Anybody know how to treat Helicobacter pylori?
[02:36] <MeanEYE> kelly, in the same volume control... on output tab... what do  you have selected?
[02:36] <berry> Tnks Appl6 apreciate it
[02:37] <hphzrd> has anyone encountered a problem with flash/shockwave with firefox on youtube etc?
[02:37] <bazhang> !ot | bakingsoda
[02:37] <fedematico> i gonna reboot ubuntu... it's update the kernet etc...
[02:37] <fedematico> later
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> hphzrd:  flash is known for having all sorts of problems.
[02:38]  * psusi hates all adobe products.... they all have problems.
[02:38] <hphzrd> well sorry that wasn't clear. mine is rather being a bit slow
[02:39] <ak> hi, my win manager crashed and even though I can use mouse, I can't do keyboard input in xterm. if I click on desktop and click on 'run command' that also doesn't work because popup won't have keyboard focus. what can I do?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> hphzrd:  for 32bit systems - i think a new version of flash was just released to the partner repositories.
[02:39] <julian_> I received an Ubuntu upgrade but it says it's unable to upgrade because it cannot authenticate the following packages:  gvfs-backends
[02:39] <julian_> gvfs-bin
[02:39] <julian_> gvfs-fuse
[02:39] <julian_> libgpod-common
[02:39] <julian_> libgpod4.. Should I be concerned?
[02:39] <FloodBot4> julian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <julian_> sorry about the flooding
[02:39] <hphzrd> Dr_Willis, thanks. I will try to update it then.
[02:40] <psusi> ak: ctrl-alt-f1 then sudo restart gdm... or just hit ctrl-alt-delete
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> hphzrd:  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/adobe-flash-player-101-uploaded-to.html   (seems 64bit is also avail now)
[02:40] <ak> psusi: well, I don't want to kill all programs. I just want to restart window manager inside that session
[02:40] <hphzrd> Dr_Willis: mine is an almost 5 year old 32bit laptop - have to say better performance comparing to XP
[02:41] <pretender> running ubuntu 10.04 and desktop webmail can anyone tell me do they know if desktop webmail supports sending  attachments
[02:41] <kelly> MeanEYE      analog stereo output
[02:41] <MeanEYE> kelly, any mute checkboxes checked?
[02:41] <foxmulder881> pretender; should do.
[02:42] <julian_> I'm unable to complete the ubuntu upgrade.  It tells me it can't autenticate the following packages:  gvfs-backends, gvfs-bin, gvfs-fuse, libgpod-common, libgpod4.  How can I complete the upgrade?
[02:42] <kelly> MeanEYE     nope
[02:43] <foxmulder881> julian_; try again in apt-get with -f argument,.
[02:43] <foxmulder881> .
[02:43] <julian_> thanks foxmoulder881.  I'll try that.
[02:43] <dixubuntu> excusing    hi
[02:43] <MeanEYE> kelly, weird... :/
[02:44] <pretender> foxmulder881:  when i try it does not seem to pass the attachment to gmail once logged in you just get a compose new email with no attachments.  Where can i get futher support on desktop webmail
[02:44] <kelly> MeanEYE     so there isnt anything i can do
[02:44] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE:  You sure shes not got some weird  pulseaudio issue?
[02:44] <bricky> anyone have any broadcom wifi card problems? or fixed them
[02:45] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE: she/he
[02:45] <IdleOne> !broadcom | bricky
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[02:46] <foxmulder881> pretender; can't help you any more mate. I don't use it. :-(
[02:46] <MeanEYE> sebsebseb, kelly: don't think so... devices are present... it should work...
[02:47] <bricky> ~$ lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 - does not or has never worked for me
[02:47] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: hi
[02:47] <MapleAwesome12> how do i join a different IRC in Gaim? I need help with Klik
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> back on lucid :)
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: /server
[02:48] <MapleAwesome12> /server #klik
[02:48] <MapleAwesome12> clearly i know nothing of Ubuntu or ICR
[02:48] <foxmulder881> You mean IRC!
[02:48] <piper69> how do i know what processor i have in a computer running ubuntu
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: no, #klik is a channel, not a server
[02:49] <MapleAwesome12> well i need to join the #klik channel
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> piper69: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:49] <greezmunkey> or the uber geeks here :)
[02:49] <Izinucs> MapleAwesome12: you're using gaim?  you should load up xchat.. much easier
[02:49] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE: yeah strange since its  a desktop
[02:49] <julian_> foxmoulder881, I tried that ( sudo apt-get upgrade -f)and i got the following message: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - N
[02:49] <julian_> o address associated with hostname)
[02:49] <MapleAwesome12> well i cant even install anything cuz i can't use the terminal
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Izinucs: both use standard irc commands, so both are equally easy
[02:49] <sebsebseb> MeanEYE: sound used to work, but then kelly installed a graphics  card driver for Nivida, and it stopped working, maybe you missed that
[02:50] <foxmulder881> Learn the terminal. Try it out and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
[02:50] <MapleAwesome12> i've BEEN trying
[02:50] <MapleAwesome12> everything gives me a DRM error
[02:50] <foxmulder881> Besides, you don't need to use terminal to install stuff.
[02:50] <Izinucs> ActionParsnip: isn't gaim now know as something else? like Pidgin
[02:50] <MapleAwesome12> err RPM
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Izinucs: true
[02:50] <MapleAwesome12> i'm on Ubuntu 7.04
[02:51] <foxmulder881> You can use gui method if that's what you feel comfortable with. ;-)
[02:51] <foxmulder881> RPM is not for Ubuntu/Debian but rather Red Hat based distros.
[02:51] <MapleAwesome12> i just wanna install rpm2cpio so i can use klik and install newer firefox and skype
[02:51] <wash> What is this GUI you speak of?
[02:51] <Izinucs> ActionParsnip: which is a great IM client but if he's using "gaim" then he's on an old release and needs a little coaxing.. I don't think gaim has the same irc plugins that Pidgin has currently
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: you can install newer firefox using the firefox ppa
[02:52] <wash> I know only zeh shell.
[02:52] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; how about upgrading your Ubuntu version for starters.
[02:52] <whodat> alsamixer looks ok maple?
[02:52] <MapleAwesome12> i just converted from WinXP just a week ago
[02:52] <whodat> omg nm
[02:52] <MapleAwesome12> i can't even figure out how to use my programs
[02:52] <bastid_raZor> julian_: trying changing the mirror you're using.. System > Adminstration > Software Sources
[02:52] <MapleAwesome12> my brother knows more abou this
[02:52] <Izinucs> MapleAwesome12: steep learning curve.. wonderful results :)
[02:52] <wash> Maple: don't worry, everyone's been there.
[02:52] <wash> Just stick with it.
[02:53] <MapleAwesome12> my first problem was inernet
[02:53] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; be patient. You'll learn in the end.
[02:53] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; probably when you crack and are ready to go back to Windows. lol
[02:53] <MapleAwesome12> it wouldn't connect so i was stuck with my Wii for the week
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: you can also install later versions of (crappy) firefox
[02:53] <julian_> thanks bastid
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> Reading package lists... Done
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> Building dependency tree
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> Reading state information... Done
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:54] <FloodBot4> MapleAwesome12: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> Reading package lists... Done
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> Building dependency tree
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> Reading state information... Done
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:54] <FloodBot4> MapleAwesome12: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; use pastebin mate.
[02:54] <whodat> floodbots got him now
[02:54] <MapleAwesome12> stupid flood error
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: learn! dont flood the channel!
[02:54] <whodat> hehe
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: its not an error, it just stops you flooding the channle
[02:55] <tar-> "flood error" o.o
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> !paste | MapleAwesome12
[02:55] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; paste.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <MapleAwesome12> i hate Ctrl+V with multiple lines and terminal
[02:55] <tar-> we do too
[02:55] <tar-> .. but from the other side of the fence
[02:55] <agoole> !grub
[02:56] <greezmunkey> heh
[02:56] <wregle> quick
[02:56] <MeanEYE> am dead... :/
[02:56] <agoole> !grub2
[02:56] <MapleAwesome12> here's the main line: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:56] <CaptainTrek> !msgthebot | agoole
[02:56] <MeanEYE> to much info for the past few hours
[02:56] <MapleAwesome12> so your terminal code failed
[02:56] <kinks> or you failed to use it correctly :o
[02:56] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; what atre you trying to do?
[02:56] <agoole> CaptainTrek: oh thanks, I didn't know that had changed
[02:57] <MapleAwesome12> trying to get Klik working by getting rpm2cpio and install a new firefox, get skype, and a whole bunch of other junk
[02:57] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; you are beyond my help.
[02:57] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; why the hell are you using such an old version of Ubuntu?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: mozilla have a ppa which will give you the latest builds. you can install 3.7 if you want using that ppa
[02:57] <agoole> anyone have some quick advice to fix grub2 and/or windows mbr ?
[02:58] <paulo> I want to know the exact date when a CD media was recorded. I tried QPxTool (nice software) but it doesn't report this specific info. There is any alternative to get this info?
[02:58] <MeanEYE> agoole, what kind of advice :D
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | agoole
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> pretty quick imho
[02:58] <MapleAwesome12> stupid junky generic no-good horrible Ubuntu 7.04, locking me out of the NTFS drive and keeping me from modifying anything
[02:58] <agoole> MeanEYE: I had an old linux hard drive sitting in the computer,
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | MapleAwesome12
[02:58] <agoole> MeanEYE: it wasn't set up with grub or anything, we were only using the windows drive
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: gutsy isnt supported anymore
[02:58] <MeanEYE> paulo, you should be able to do that by looking at date of any file on that disk
[02:58] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; you need to use a more recent version and then we can help you more mate.
[02:59] <agoole> MeanEYE: and I figured I'd recycle it, and now I can't boot windows at all, haha
[02:59] <MapleAwesome12> i'm using Feisty Fawn
[02:59] <MeanEYE> agoole, you want dual boot or just windows
[02:59] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; even worse!
[02:59] <bastid_raZor> !eol | MapleAwesome12
[02:59] <greezmunkey> even older...
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> !7.04
[02:59] <MapleAwesome12> well, i cannot figure out how to upgrade anything
[02:59] <agoole> MeanEYE: right now, I can boot into linux, (this active partition that i'm using right now)
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> MapleAwesome12: its not supported anymore, you need to upgrade to get support
[03:00] <agoole> MeanEYE: and I'd like to dual boot, with a grub menu, like the old days, with windows
[03:00] <CaptainTrek> MapleAwesome12:  you can't upgrade directly to 10.04 if that's what you mean
[03:00] <CaptainTrek> xD
[03:00] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; go to www.ubuntu.com and download the latest lucid release. It's not that hard mate,
[03:00] <MapleAwesome12> well io can't upgrade if i can't get help
[03:00] <foxmulder881> .
[03:00] <IdleOne> MapleAwesome12: that is because you are running a version of Ubuntu that has not been supported in almost 3 years
[03:00] <MeanEYE> agoole, give me a moment
[03:00] <MapleAwesome12> and NOW i get told how to upgrade
[03:00] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; you never asked.
[03:00] <_EagleScreen> MapleAwesome12: much easier and faster to do a fresh install, if can do it
[03:00] <IdleOne> s/support/unsupported
[03:01] <IdleOne> err
[03:01] <Yuard> my netbook stopped mounting my ipod nano (2nd gen) about 3 days after upgrading (ipod mounted for 3 days or so).  ive researched but cant find any solutions. anyone know what the problem is? (im using ubuntu version 10.04)
[03:01] <IdleOne> never mins
[03:01] <CaptainTrek> MapleAwesome12:  i agree with _EagleScreen.  from the version you're using, a fresh install is recommended
[03:01] <drizzt_> MapleAwesome12, just install 8.04 over your system
[03:01] <IdleOne> mind
[03:01] <MapleAwesome12> weoll this was the only version my brother lended to me
[03:01] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; tell your brother to upgrade also.
[03:01] <_EagleScreen> drizzt_ why 8.04?
[03:01] <MapleAwesome12> well he switches from XP Ultimate to Linux
[03:02] <acerimmer> and upgrade the broter, too
[03:02] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; christ, I give up...
[03:02] <greezmunkey> heh
[03:02] <MapleAwesome12> as i said: well he switches from XP Ultimate to Linux
[03:02] <MeanEYE> agoole, private pls
[03:02] <drizzt_> _EagleScreen, because 8.04 is LTS and more stable than recent versions
[03:02] <MapleAwesome12> so he is not on LINUX RIGHT NOW
[03:02] <drizzt_> there's no XP Ultimate
[03:02] <MapleAwesome12> yews there is
[03:02] <MapleAwesome12> it's a modified version of XP
[03:02] <IdleOne> !windows
[03:02] <IdleOne> !piracy > MapleAwesome12
[03:03] <chris411> this working?
[03:03] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a way to enable the xdmcp chooser? I'm using 10.04, and I have enabled xdmcp sessions in gdm.conf on server. I've also tried kdm, but it doesn't give me the option either.
[03:03] <drizzt_> with trojans preinstalled?
[03:03] <MapleAwesome12> http://www.winxpu.info/
[03:03] <IdleOne> MapleAwesome12: Please don't paste links to illegal material
[03:03] <_EagleScreen> I'd recommend to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, it is also LTS and it is stable enought
[03:03] <MapleAwesome12> it isnt illegal
[03:03] <IdleOne> IT IS however not supported here
[03:03] <drizzt_> MapleAwesome12, you can get recent version if you can afford download 800MB for Internet
[03:04] <Phong_> is SSD better/faster then SAS?
[03:04] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; you're beginning to troll.
[03:04] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; and troll with illegal rubbish at that,
[03:04] <IdleOne> let's get back on topic please
[03:04] <drizzt_> drizzt_, torrents are better, but they create parasite traffic
[03:04] <MapleAwesome12> if you READ the website's FAQ, you'd know why it's exists
[03:05] <IdleOne> MapleAwesome12: I am going to ask you one more time to stop discussing that OS in here
[03:05] <chris411> can someone please help with a 10.04 login screen that keeps "looping" and so cant actually login
[03:05] <ablyss> i suppose everyone is watching the world cup.. why its so quite on freenode
[03:05] <foxmulder881> ablyss; ... and full of weirdos...
[03:05] <_EagleScreen> Chiliblue: tested a new fresh different user?
[03:05] <drizzt_> chris411, remove gdm
[03:05] <ablyss> w/ big yellow sunglasses no doubt!
[03:05] <MapleAwesome12> i'm just saying (AND I END THE TOPIC) it is NOT illegal. it's a better alternative to a junky broken company's Vista system
[03:06] <julian_> thanks bastid.  Still not working :-(  Error Message for upgrade attempt:  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ############
[03:06] <rallias> oh what are we talking about? Illegal stuff?
[03:06] <foxmulder881> MapleAwesome12; FUCK OFF will you. <mad>
[03:06] <rallias> fox he has left
[03:07] <Phong_> is SSD better/faster then SAS?
[03:07] <tuxxy> language people
[03:07] <rallias> Phong_ What is SAS?
[03:07] <tuxxy> :p
[03:07] <drizzt_> !language
[03:07] <foxmulder881> Thank god.
[03:07] <IdleOne> !language | foxbuntu
[03:07] <IdleOne> !language | foxmulder881
[03:07] <tuxxy> !language | foxmulder881
[03:07] <foxmulder881> Yeah I get it alright.
[03:07] <IdleOne> ok I think he got it :)
[03:07] <tuxxy> hehe
[03:07] <chris411> drizzt, i have somehow createda backup of my home folder and also created 2 extra folders in the home dir, I think this is cause a conflict as well
[03:07] <foxmulder881> Stop repeating.
[03:08] <tuxxy> stop swearing then
[03:08] <tuxxy> lol
[03:08] <rallias> !language | foxbuntu
[03:08] <foxmulder881> I said it once.
[03:08] <Phong_> hey foxmulder881
[03:08] <rallias> it was just tempting
[03:08] <tuxxy> one too many :D
[03:08] <foxmulder881> Phong_; hey mate, :-)
[03:08] <Phong_> is SSD better then SAS hard drive
[03:08] <Flannel> rallias: Please don't add to the noise in the channel, thanks.
[03:08] <IdleOne> foxmulder881: ok let's drop it. you said it we warned you about the rules :)
[03:08] <rallias> Phong_ What is SAS?
[03:08] <tennessean> hello ubuntu
[03:08] <Phong_> rallias is HD
[03:08] <foxmulder881> IdleOne; yeah about 20 times!
[03:09] <IdleOne> foxmulder881: we all typed it at the same time is all
[03:09] <foxmulder881> Phong_; never used SAS. Sorry mate.
[03:09] <waveclaw> SSD: Solid State Disk (basically flash), SAS is the Serial Attached SCSI protocol, which an SSD might use.
[03:09] <IdleOne> more or less
[03:09] <Pyrrha> Hello all.
[03:09] <tuxxy> ye quit whining lol
[03:09] <bastid_raZor> julian_: then you need to get the gpgkey from the PPA ..
[03:09] <rallias> SSD is better than magnetic disk in some aspects, but Magnetic Disks are better in terms of gigs per dollar
[03:09] <waveclaw> Do you want to compare an SSD vs non-SSD disk?
[03:09] <IdleOne> tuxxy: please don't
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: serial attatched scsi
[03:09] <tuxxy> ok sorry IdleOne
[03:09] <ajw> hey guys, i've noticed some odd audio problems with boxee and pulseaudio under karmic.  i looked around the internet and didn't see much, are there any known tricks for making pulseaudio behave better?
[03:09] <tuxxy> :D
[03:10] <julian_> Hi bastid_raZor...I have no idea what a gpgkey from PPA is...
[03:10] <Phong_> waveclaw i want to buy a high end disk
[03:10] <Phong_> waveclaw and do not know which to choose from.  SSD or SAS
[03:10] <foxmulder881> Phong_; go ssd.
[03:10] <bakingsoda> POP QUIZ!
[03:10] <foxmulder881> Phong_; it's the future of storage. That's why I suggest.
[03:10] <rallias> Phong_ high end in terms of size or speed?
[03:11] <bakingsoda> what cells go after cancer cells?
[03:11] <Phong_> rallias speed
[03:11] <IdleOne> !ot | bakingsoda
[03:11] <Phong_> rallias i care about speed
[03:11] <Flannel> bakingsoda: Please take it elsewhere.  This channel is for Ubuntu support
[03:11] <bakingsoda> WHAT CELLS GO AFTER CANCER CELLS?
[03:11] <whodat> white blood cells
[03:11] <rallias> Phong_ The only problem is that it has a lifespan of one a thousandth of the magnetic discs
[03:11] <foxmulder881> IdleOne; do you have anything better to do that prompting irc info?
[03:11] <ajw> i think there's also a performance difference between magnetic and ssd depending on whether you're doing streaming vs random access
[03:12] <Phong_> rallias oh okay...it's because it is chips ???? no disk spinning right for SSD
[03:12] <IdleOne> foxmulder881: yes but unfortunately some of us have to keep an eye on this and other channels because some people insist on continuing offtopic convos
[03:12] <tuxxy> now now foxmulder881 watch it is all im saying
[03:12] <Flannel> tuxxy: Enough.
[03:12] <IdleOne> foxmulder881: anything else I can help you with that is Ubuntu related?
[03:12] <Phong_> rallias so a SSD HD is like a hug memory chip right?
[03:13] <foxmulder881> What did I do wrong?
[03:13] <rallias> Phong_ What I would do is get a 10000 RPM hard drive for storing your data and a 32 GB hard drive for storing the OS. Ubuntu doesn't modify OS files very often, so it is safe to use SSD's. The issues in SSD's are in terms of the fact that you have a limited number of writes
[03:13] <IdleOne> foxmulder881: apart from the one curse. nothing.
[03:13] <con-man_> whats the unicode command in linux
[03:13] <foxmulder881> That's right.
[03:13] <IdleOne> foxmulder881: ok then lets drop it :)
[03:14] <ajw> so yeah, pulseaudio under karmic... does it have known issues?
[03:14] <pranay_09> unablet to use mic in my system in lucid
[03:14] <foxmulder881> I think I'll return when the normal brains are on here.
[03:14] <Pyrrha> Anyone running 10.04?
[03:14] <IdleOne> see you later
[03:14] <rallias> Pyrrha: I am
[03:14] <Chuck27> yea i am
[03:14] <Yuard> same
[03:14] <acerimmer> Pyrrha: most of us
[03:15] <Pyrrha> Is the add/remove improved from 9.10?
[03:15] <con-man_> whats the unicode command in linux
[03:15] <rallias> Pyrrha: Yes
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrha: many
[03:15] <Pyrrha> Well I am not... I am still using 9.04.
[03:15] <IdleOne> Pyrrha: it is called Software Center now
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrha: in soe ways, yes.
[03:15] <Pyrrha> Oh... fancy lol
[03:15] <Phong_> rallias my boss gave me 15k 450GB SAS.  my motherboard dont have it support....is it worth to buy 64GB SSD = $145  or get the SAS Controller = $200 for my MB.???? tell me what to do.
[03:15] <Pyrrha> 9.10's was horrible.
[03:15] <Pyrrha> amongst some other things.
[03:15] <k3rn> hi
[03:15] <Pyrrha> I may upgrade then...
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Phong_
[03:15] <rallias> Phong_ SAS controller
[03:15] <quietone> How do I change the default boot partition on lucid with 3 OS's?
[03:15] <Pyrrha> Wow...
[03:16] <rallias> Phong_ The SSD won't last nearly as long
[03:16] <hlx> Phong_ What will you be using it for in the end? Server? Desktop?
[03:16] <Phong_> rallias u just told me get SSD
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> quietone: its defined in /etc/default/grub
[03:16] <k3rn> i removed a file using the 'rm' in a console, is there any easy way to restore it?
[03:16] <Chuck27> Pyrrha i like the Play On Linux
[03:16] <rallias> Phong_ I didn't know your situation don't blame me too much
[03:16] <ajw> sell it on ebay and buy a big sata disk
[03:16] <Phong_> oh okay.
[03:16] <Flannel> k3rn: Not an easy way, no.
[03:16] <Phong_> rallias ..fine i go buy sas controller
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> k3rn: use your backups
[03:16] <Chuck27> download under games in the software center
[03:16] <Flannel> !undelete | k3rn
[03:16] <Phong_> rallias is that because i get free stuff and trying to use it?
[03:17] <Phong_> rallias or is because sas is better
[03:17] <quietone> ActionParsnip, thx
[03:17] <rallias> Phong_ No. I am just saying if i was building a new system i would put OS on SSD and data on HDD
[03:17] <Phong_> rallias i want to do the same thing
[03:17] <Yuard> My netbook stopped mounting my ipod nano (2nd gen) about 3 days after upgrading (ipod mounted for 3 days or so).  ive researched but cant find any solutions. anyone know what the problem is? (im using ubuntu version 10.04)
[03:17] <ajw> ssd is still gimmicky
[03:17] <Phong_> rallias my goal is to make os fast
[03:17] <rallias> Phong_ SSD has good read, but gets the craps in writes. How often do you plan to write to the drive?
[03:18] <Phong_> rallias often..i guess
[03:18] <MeanEYE> Have to go now... have fun ppl!
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: then tweak the OS or use a sleeker WM / DE
[03:18] <rallias> Phong_ I'd recommend the SAS controller, and get lots of RAM
[03:18] <tuxxy> later MeanEYE
[03:18] <Chuck27> night all
[03:18] <rallias> Phong_ You won't notice any preformance difference
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: you can also use a lower vm.swappiness
[03:19] <k3rn> okay question, when using rm in the console there is nothing like the trash basket as under gnome or kde?
[03:19] <Flannel> k3rn: correct
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> k3rn: not in console no
[03:19] <rallias> heck you can disable swap alltogether
[03:19] <k3rn> okay
[03:20] <Phong_> rallias no performace diff?
[03:20] <Phong_> rallias then i wont buy sas or ssd
[03:20] <Phong_> just stick with what i have then
[03:20] <thune3> k3rn: if it was a file installed by a package, you could reinstall that package (after finding it)
[03:20] <rallias> Phong_ I would go with SAS
[03:20] <drizzt_> !ops | chris411 unsolicited dcc
[03:20] <k3rn> thune3: nah it wasn't - thx
[03:20] <Phong_> rallias let say i boot to windows about 1 min......will it be faster like in 30 sec if i have sas
[03:21] <Flannel> drizzt_: please join #ubuntu-ops, thanks
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: vm.swappiness can help lots, using a lighter dE / WM can help lots
[03:21] <rallias> Phong_ No it would be the same timing
[03:21] <rallias> with plenty of ram though... :)
[03:21] <Phong_> rallias oh crab...i dont need it
[03:21] <Phong_> never mind
[03:21] <Phong_> no need it then
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: using lighter apps can also help, instead of openoffice use abiword etc
[03:22] <hlx> you never really NEED it for desktop use, but some people are fans of performance :)
[03:22] <Phong_> 'm going to sell sas then
[03:22] <rallias> Openoffice is fun for its StarWars game
[03:22] <con-man_> you know how you hold alt in windows for special chars, whats the linux equiv?
[03:22] <chiggins> How can I find what partition GRUB2 is installed to??
[03:22] <rallias> Phong_ Why? Its 15K.
[03:22] <hlx> it resides in the MBR, does it not?
[03:22] <Phong_> rallias i'm going to seell it
[03:22] <rallias> Phong_ What are the specs
[03:22] <Phong_> 15k 450GB
[03:23] <rallias> 15k what?
[03:23] <Phong_> my boss bought it for 400usd
[03:23] <hlx> rallias: RPM
[03:23] <Phong_> gave it to me
[03:23] <Phong_> RPM
[03:23] <con-man_> 15k? that's gonna spin off its wheels
[03:23]  * rallias whistles
[03:23] <con-man_> 15k = unlreliable
[03:23] <con-man_> get an SSD
[03:23] <chiggins> sda1?
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: cache makes more difference tan rpm
[03:23] <hlx> those drives are more meant for enterprise class data centre servers
[03:23] <rallias> i am no help then
[03:23] <con-man_> you know how you hold alt in windows for special chars, whats the linux equiv?
[03:23] <kathe> con-man ctrl-shift
[03:24] <rallias> kathe really?
[03:24] <kathe> rallias, really what, what i told con-man
[03:24] <rallias> äໟ෯
[03:24] <rallias> oh
[03:24] <kathe> yeah
[03:24] <rallias> kathe: do you have a guide?
[03:24] <Phong_> rallias if i can't sell it..i'll throw it in trash
[03:25] <kathe> rallias, nope it's just the unicode the the ansi character set, so just google it
[03:25] <rallias> Phong_ 15k RPM someone is going to want it
[03:25] <kathe> remember 255 is null
[03:25] <IdleOne> Phong_: can you please take this hardware convo to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:25]  * psusi ran a first generation 15k rpm seagate cheetah for a number of years... and that was a good 5 years ago now
[03:25] <waveclaw> friend of mine uses a ramdisk on his netbook with Ubuntu Netbook Remix. An advanced topic to set those up, but still nice.
[03:25] <Phong_> ok idleone
[03:25] <IdleOne> thank you
[03:25] <psusi> cache on a drive makes little to no difference... the OS has lots more ram to cache with and does a better job
[03:25] <Phong_> rallias any way, i will go buy 1 tomorrow
[03:25] <Phong_> SSD..thanks all
[03:26]  * psusi pets his ssd
[03:26] <hlx> Question: If I install multiple desktop environments, can i switch between them at logon time?
[03:26] <IdleOne> hlx: yes
[03:26] <hlx> IdleOne: Thank you.
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> psusi: hardware cache performs better than any software managed cache
[03:26] <IdleOne> hlx: you click on the Session button at the login screen
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> hlx: thats exactly the idea :)
[03:27] <psusi> ActionParsnip, prove it... if the os has it in the cache it doesn't even need to ask the disk for it... can't get much faster than not even doing the read in the first place.
[03:27] <Yuard> Is there a way to change my username?
[03:27] <bravisd>  solid state drive here..
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> hlx: click your username, then choose your desktop in the bottom of the screen
[03:27] <hlx> Thanks
[03:27] <kathe> ActionParnsip, true, but hard drive cache is not very valuable, its better to have higher memory so the os can load everything in memory and not hit the hard drive very much, the harddrive it is a memory page hit
[03:27] <hlx> Next brainwave, on Kubuntu, is there any way to segregate your open tabs into separate desktops? Right now the taskbar has apps appear in both desktops, or is this unavoidable
[03:27] <Phong_> idleone, i have to ask this: is it better to install linux on real HD or have it install on vmware on windows OS ???? i'm trying to learn linux
[03:28] <kathe> psusi, is quite correct especially to any major system like a DB
[03:28] <IdleOne> Phong_: real install will give better performance
[03:28] <hlx> Use Wubi to try it out, easiest, safe, I've had ubuntu not work so well on VMware
[03:28] <Phong_> idleone, what if i mess up something
[03:28] <psusi> IdleOne, what?
[03:28] <mopi> Phong_: a virtual machine will let you revert if you need to
[03:28] <Phong_> idleone,  i have to install all over.
[03:28] <drizzt_> Phong_, if you  mean ubuntu I would offer wubi install: real files & hardware and no messing with HD
[03:28] <rallias> Yuard in system -> Administration -> users and groups
[03:28] <IdleOne> psusi: what what?
[03:28] <mopi> Phong_: I use virtualbox
[03:28] <Phong_> mopi, that is what i am trying to say
[03:29] <psusi> IdleOne, you said something about real install giving better pformance...
[03:29] <IdleOne> Phong_: but if you are worried about messing something up you can VM or use Wubi
[03:29] <Phong_> vubi?
[03:29] <IdleOne> psusi: you here just to argue or offer help?
[03:29] <IdleOne> !wubi
[03:29] <hlx> Phong_: "Wubi" will install ubuntu into your add/remove programs, and let you choose at boot time which environment to go into. You can simple uninstall it from windows when you are done.
[03:29] <Phong_> ah
[03:29] <Phong_> i see
[03:29] <psusi> kathe, a database goes out of its way to do its own extensive caching.... not much point having data also sit in the disk cache at the same time the db is keeping it around in its cache, and for a longer period of time
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> psusi: the cache on the IDE is significantly faster than seeking the data on the drive, even if the drive is insanely fast, if the data is already in the cache it will be faster than seeking each piece of data. If you have a tonne of cache the drive can fill the cache with good stuff and this will be used to transfer the data to the ram. If there is little cache the OS will have to wait while the drive works and gets the data
[03:30] <Phong_> idleone, i probably try with vm first...how much is virtualbox?
[03:30] <IdleOne> free
[03:30] <Phong_> i want to try it
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> psusi: its usually why as the RPM increases the cache increases as more data can be cached per time period as the seek time is lower due to ROM
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> RPM
[03:30] <Yuard> rallias I don't see an area to change my username
[03:30] <hlx> Is virtualbox java's edition in the VM market?
[03:30] <mopi> Phong_:http://www.virtualbox.org. It's free for private use
[03:30] <Phong_> oh ok
[03:30] <psusi> ActionParsnip, sure, the disk cache beats the hell out of actually having to read the data... but it doesn't beat not having to ask the disk in the first place because it's in main ram
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> hix: its owned by Oracle now
[03:31] <mopi> Phong_: and its very feature rich
[03:31] <Phong_> mopi, will it install with .iso file?
[03:31] <mopi> Phong_: yes
[03:31] <Phong_> ok brb
[03:31] <Phong_> thanks all
[03:31] <Phong_> brb, got to get it
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> hix: java is a language, java is not a company
[03:31] <mopi> Phong_: It will also open up vmware machines
[03:31] <hlx> ActionParsnip: I had meant Sun.
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> hix: jave != sun
[03:32] <Phong_> mopi, x32 or x 64 ubuntu?
[03:32] <Phong_> hmm
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> hix: OOo is now owned by oracle
[03:32] <Phong_> dont knwo what to get
[03:32] <mopi> Phong_: either or
[03:32] <drizzt_> Phong_, 32x
[03:32] <rallias> yuard right click properties?
[03:32] <Phong_> okie
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> psusi: true
[03:32] <psusi> since the OS is using main ram for its own cache, and has a lot more of it than the disk does, whatever is in the disk cache is almost certainly in the kernel cache, and then some... no point having it in the disk cache if it's in the kernel cache since the kernel won't even ask the disk for it again in the first place
[03:32] <mopi> Phong_: I would go with X32 though
[03:32] <Phong_> mopi, mh HD is 32m cache is that good?
[03:32] <Phong_> 32MB
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: tats plenty :)
[03:33] <Phong_> i got 1 TB 32M
[03:33] <Phong_> ok
[03:33] <mopi> Phong_: how much ram do you have?
[03:33] <psusi> and the kernel has more information to go on than the disk... it can do things like delay background dirty buffer flushes to service page fault reads first
[03:34] <drizzt_> why gnome-panel has some crazy dependencies from libweather and libevolution-something? can it b e recompiled without them?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> psusi: but if the disk can pre-emptively cache data which is required before the data is asked for it will be significantly faster than waiting for the request to come in :)
[03:34] <kathe> psusi and ActionParsnip let's simply agree on 1.) hard drive cache is better then not having any and 2.) that having enough ram to prevent having to go to the hard drive in the first place is better but that point 1.) is atleast invoked during a startup.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> kathe: deal :)
[03:34] <rallias> you know how in install it asks if you want to require password to decrypt files? How do i set that setting on after install?
[03:34] <psusi> ActionParsnip, the kernel already does that, and the amount it reads ahead is configurable
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> kathe: and that readahead package is good :)
[03:35] <psusi> kathe, sure.. but my point is that more disk cache is not really any better
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> psusi: if th hardware can do this pre-emptively outside of the kernel it makes thigs easier on the cpu
[03:35] <hlx> It however is not any worse.
[03:35] <kathe> psusi, well that is depending on memory isn't it psusi
[03:35] <psusi> kathe, on what memory?
[03:36] <psusi> the disk cache or main ram?  how much, or how fast?
[03:36] <psusi> ActionParsnip, no... the kernel has more information to go on so it can do a better job... for instance, the kernel knows that it has reached the end of that file, so there is no reason to continue reading ahead beyond it
[03:36] <kathe> psusi the amount, but the point is stupid, i would rather add more memory then purchase new drives for a higher hdd cache, but then i don't deal with drives like I used to, I mainly am dealing with Compellent SANS and NANS anymore
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> psusi: so why under linux do we just not get rid of cach ram on IDEs. would make the drives ugely cheaper
[03:38] <psusi> ActionParsnip, some is good... just adding more doesn't really do any good... but it SOUNDS good... often times manufacturers add things to make them sound good so they will sell, not because they actually are good
[03:39] <mopi> any news on samba4 anyone?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> psusi: in a busy server, disk cache is ugely important to make things smooth. I'd shoot for maximum cache evertime
[03:39] <kathe> psusi is correct, unless you are going to add something crazy like a gig of cache on a drive, to cover most file sizes, the difference between 16 and 32 meg is not enough to matter that much.
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> !ot | mopi
[03:40] <kathe> ActionParnship, and on most servers, people are dealing with SANS and NANS anymore, which is an entire different beast
[03:41] <psusi> ActionParsnip, do you have any evidence to back that up, or does it just sound better?  assuming the kernel has much more ram to do its own caching with... and it does so... it will never ask the disk for data it already has in its cache, so it won't make a lick of difference...
[03:41] <mikewhatever> Anyone here knows how to manage BCM4312 power?
[03:42] <mopi> ActionParsnip: how is that offtopic?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> psusi: where I work the guys who manage the servers and NAS etc for our many customers shoot for cache, we have early customers who use less cache on there drives and the throughput and performance is slower, i call it as i see it
[03:43] <psusi> ActionParsnip, in other words... it /sounds/ good
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> mopi: its not an Ubuntu support question, your OS is not in issue. Its a generic question. they are for #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:43] <psusi> just like how people assume that more MHz = faster cpu.... which is why they started labeling them with model numbers instead of MHz
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> psusi: no, i've seen it perform better, weather its a config difference or the drives are doing better I call it as I see it
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> psusi: it is consistant though, the old guys using 8Mb drives on the same controllers arent nearly as slick as the customers on 32mb drives
[03:44] <mopi> ActionParsni: it is linux related. Processor cache is not at all
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> psusi: how else can I see it?
[03:44] <mopi> !ot > ActionParsnip
[03:45] <psusi> ActionParsnip, are the drives the same other than cache?  I'll bet they also have quite different areal density and such
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> psusi: please pM
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> psusi: ops get narky otherwise
[03:45]  * psusi goes back to speeding up e2defrag
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> psusi: but yes they are identical
[03:46] <kathe> mopi, on your samba4 question, late 2010 early 2011 i hear
[03:47] <mopi> kathe: thank you
[03:47] <kathe> psusi and ActionParsnip I am going to step out from the debate, but here is my say, psusi is mostly correct, however if a lot of files of smaller size are called ActionParsnip can be correct, but it's a very limited use.
[03:48] <hlx> Question: Can Ubuntu Server utilize samba to act as a domain controller? If so, group policy aside, what features can it offer for a windows user?
[03:48] <mopi> hlx: yes it can
[03:48] <mopi> hlx: you can do roaming user profiles and home directories, login scripts, etc
[03:48] <hlx> so basically everything aside from group policy
[03:48] <Izinucs> hlx: fine grained control as to what is shared
[03:48] <mopi> hlx: basically
[03:49] <kathe> hlx Ubuntu can be a domain controller no problem, don't now about utilizing samba to act as the domain controller but it would work as a form of group policy and share points
[03:49] <mopi> hlx: samba4 will have that ability though
[03:49] <mopi> hlx: it will be a good opensource AD replacement
[03:50] <hlx> mopi / kathe: Thanks, I am a freelance IT doing a domain for a business on a budget, looking at my options here.
[03:50] <drizzt_> mopi, only 11 year late
[03:50] <hlx> aka does not have 20,000 to spend on microsoft licensing
[03:50] <mopi> drizzt_: exactly
[03:50] <mopi> hlx: how many users do they have? are they a nonprofit?
[03:50] <windowshasyou> Anyone in here know much about repairing partitions? I've got a terabyte hd that is fdisk is saying does not have a partition, but yet, I can mount the drive, read the files and write to it. Any clues on how to fix this?
[03:50] <paulo> I want to know the exact date when a CD media was recorded. I tried QPxTool (nice software) but it doesn't report this specific info. There is any alternative to get this info?
[03:51] <hlx> mopi: nonprofit, 20 workstations, 3 MFD's
[03:51] <kathe> aka 20000 for just a few basic things, a million once you get the wsus servers going the anti virus, the additional firewalls, etc to protect the microsoft products, and lets not forget the additional licensing of products for that one function share point or office functionality that doesn't come with the base version... etc. etc. etc.
[03:52] <hlx> indeed.
[03:52] <Izinucs> windowshasyou: testdisk might be able to recover the partition data and restore the drive
[03:52] <psusi> windowshasyou, what is there to fix exactly?
[03:52] <mopi> hlx: ever heard of techsoup.org?
[03:52] <hlx> mopi: I have not
[03:52] <windowshasyou> psusi: Let me paste bin it all
[03:52] <mopi> hlx: you can get use licenses for like $10, server licenses are really cheap too
[03:52] <windowshasyou> Izinucs: I'm gonna try test disk in a minute
[03:53] <psusi> if you can access it fine, then it ain't broke... don't fix it
[03:53] <kathe> mlx, yeah, if your a nonprofit, you can get software cheap
[03:53] <kathe> er hlx i mean
[03:54] <mopi> hlx: ccbnonprofits is good too, that one is good if your organization is church-affiliated at all
[03:54] <hlx> This is quite useful. Thanks a lot. What should I be researching into from linux domains for profitable businesses?
[03:54] <hlx> I would much rather work with a ubuntu server than server 2k8
[03:54] <mopi> hlx: ok, I see. brb
[03:55] <windowshasyou> psusi, Izinucs, http://pastebin.com/N2yn4v1M
[03:55] <bastid_raZor> hlx: there is a #ubuntu-server channel. they may be of some help
[03:55] <psusi> windowshasyou, you ran fdisk on /dev/sdb1
[03:55] <windowshasyou> psusi: Yes.
[03:55] <psusi> windowshasyou, don't do that.
[03:55] <windowshasyou> psusi: k.
[03:56] <psusi> windowshasyou, sdb1 IS the partition... you're trying to partition a partition
[03:56] <mopi> hlx: just google ubuntu as domain controller, ubuntu has it in there forums, samba as well. You can also use webmin along with that.
[03:56] <kathe> hlx, the cost of linux is only in finding linux people, ms only people are a dime a dozen, multi-platformers are harder to come by and often cost more money to bring in, that's about it...  as far as doing business, there is an equiv or near equiv that will get your non-profit working for next to nothing.
[03:57] <windowshasyou> psusi: ok, that doesn't explain gparted though
[03:57] <windowshasyou> it says the whole disk is empty
[03:57] <mopi> hlx: check out these tools, webmin, ebox, and fogproject
[03:57] <hlx> Mopi / kathe : Thanks for all the help. appreciate it.
[03:57] <hlx> Now to set up a test network... wooo
[03:57] <psusi> windowshasyou, what does sudo parted /dev/sdb print say?
[03:58] <mopi> hlx: oh and look at untangle for your firewall. That is a very powerful tool.
[03:58] <hlx> mopi: Already use it, very useful tool
[03:58] <mopi> hlx: nice
[03:58] <windowshasyou> psusi: No Implementation: Partition 1 isn't aligned to cylinder boundaries.
[03:58] <charles_> hello
[03:58] <hlx> Also helps keep the kids computers alive for a little while longer :P
[03:59] <greenjon> mopi: don't mean to butt in on the convo, but i saw someone in here earlier today saying that they shouldn't recommend webmin because it can break your configuration or something of that sort. is that true? (sorry, don't know much about this)
[03:59] <rallias> what program do you reccomend for extracting a rar
[03:59] <bastid_raZor> !webmin
[03:59] <Steve1804> I'm trying to install a Lexmark prospect pro205 on ubuntu 10.04. the installer windows asks for my administrative password, but whenever  i type in my password it says incorrect password given
[03:59] <psusi> windowshasyou, sigh... parted bug.... just to make sure pastebin sudo fdisk -lu /dev/sdb
[03:59] <hlx> Ebox looks like a pretty robust solution, I shall try that
[04:00] <greenjon> bastid_raZor: thank you
[04:00] <mopi> greenjon: It all depends on what else you have installed on your server. I would install webmin first so that way the other apps have to work around it instead
[04:00] <bastid_raZor> greenjon: the bot knows all
[04:01] <kathe> !monkeysex
[04:01] <windowshasyou> psusi: http://pastebin.com/M5kvP57j
[04:01] <kathe> [04:01] <kathe> not all
[04:01] <administrator> what
[04:01] <mopi> hlx: do you have windows clients?
[04:01] <administrator> no
[04:02] <hlx> mopi: I do, but they have expressed interest in coming to the light side of the force, so to speak, so I'm exploring any options
[04:02] <Guest83834> hello
[04:02] <Guest83834> bay
[04:03] <psusi> windowshasyou, yea... it's fine... do you have a special version of parted installed?  what version does dpkg -s parted say?
[04:03] <mopi> Take a look at fogproject.org. FOG stands for Free Opensource Ghost. It runs on linux and will cover all of your deployment needs. Including imaging, app deployment, printers, wol, etc
[04:03] <IdleOne> !botabuse > kathe
[04:03] <Steve1804> I'm trying to install a Lexmark prospect pro205 on Ubuntu 10.04. the installer windows asks for my administrative password, but whenever i type in my password it says incorrect password given. can anyone help please?
[04:03] <windowshasyou> psusi: looks like the relevant stuff is Architecture: amd64 Version: 2.2-5ubuntu5
[04:03] <hlx> alright
[04:04] <psusi> windowshasyou, and you haven't compiled your own from source or anything right?
[04:04] <windowshasyou> psusi: I wasn't worried about it. I was going to resize the partition until I saw gparted's glitch. And no, I haven't. I'm operating off of a mint live image right now.
[04:05] <kathe> Steve1804
[04:05] <kathe> er Steve1804 run it from the command line using sudo
[04:06] <kathe> Steve1804 Lexmark has a bug with it's packages right now and doesn't pass it correct, i had to do sudo nameofshellscript.sh on the command to run the installer
[04:06] <sdwrage> is the path seperator a ; ?
[04:06] <psusi> windowshasyou, hrm.... odd... try Ubuntu instead of mint... that's a perfectly normal partition... I can't believe it's complaining about it... a lot more people should be complaining about that if it were a problem in Ubuntu
[04:06] <Steve1804> Kathe: ok thanks I'm going to try that
[04:07] <joe_c8> Hi all, what's new!? :^)
[04:07] <windowshasyou> psusi: This is actually the 3rd image thats complaining. First was a sabayon live cd which I normally use for such operations, second image was a suse install disk, had intended to try their disk utilities, and this mint image is the last one.
[04:07] <bastid_raZor> !mintsupport | windowshasyou
[04:08] <drizzt_> psusi, mint uses the same kernel and the same gparted that stock ubuntu
[04:08] <sdwrage> $PATH:/my/path. is the : the seperator if I want to add another path on top of that?
[04:08] <psusi> drizzt_, I thought so.. looks to be the same version, but man... that's as plain simple stupid bland of a partition layout as you can get...
[04:08] <Steve1804> Kathe: this what i got. sudo: lexmark-injet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh: command not found
[04:08] <psusi> if it doesn't like that, there should be a LOT of people with that problem
[04:08] <windowshasyou> bastid_raZor: Thanks. I'm about done anyway. psusi: thanks anyway.
[04:09] <drizzt_> i see you envy and hate the company which makes mint, because it takes revenue from canonical, lol
[04:09] <drizzt_> sdwrage, yes
[04:09] <kathe> Steve1804 no colon
[04:10] <drizzt_> sdwrage, do you need to escape :?
[04:10] <sdwrage> drizzt_, so PATH = $PATH:/my/path:/my/Second/path ?
[04:10] <drizzt_> sdwrage, yes
[04:10] <sdwrage> ok good
[04:10] <kathe> Steve1804 and make sure you navigated to that path that has the .sh file
[04:11] <chalk> hi, how do i get the equinox gtk2 engine?
[04:11] <kathe> if in doubt drop the file in the home folder, which is the default directory when you start the terminal up
[04:11] <Steve1804> Kathe: do I have to type sudo apt-get install?
[04:12] <kathe> Steve1804 no
[04:12] <Steve1804> Kathe: how do i do it?
[04:12] <kathe> Steve1804 just make sure teh .sh file is in your home folder, then type sudo lexmark-inkjet-09=driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh
[04:12] <drizzt_> Steve1804, sh ./lexmark*.sh
[04:12] <kathe> in the terminal
[04:13] <drizzt_> Steve1804, you may want to check ~/Downloads folder for that file
[04:13] <paulo> I want to know the exact date when a CD media was recorded. I tried QPxTool (nice software) but it doesn't report this specific info. There is any alternative to get this info?
[04:14] <kathe> paulo, most cd's don't contain that data to begin with
[04:14] <hiexpo> kathe,  :0)
[04:15] <sangho> how can i reload menu bar in xchat?
[04:15] <sangho> it's disappeared
[04:15] <psusi> kathe, if it's a data cd I'm pretty sure it does
[04:16] <paulo> yeah, it's a data CD :)
[04:16] <joe_c8> Question!  Now that Sun has been bought by Oracle...  What will this mean for us Ubuntu'ers, regarding OpenOffice & Java!?
[04:16] <drizzt_> joe_c8, nothing
[04:17] <kathe> psusi, it depends is this burned or original stamped, what is the burning software, did it record the meta data, and if so is that meta data correct, etc...  most don't go around burning and timestamp the meta data too
[04:17] <agoole> alright I need help fixing my windows/dual boot problem
[04:17] <drizzt_> joe_c8, java SE & openoffice are dying now, and will die eventually
[04:17] <agoole> I can't seem to add windows to the bootable list of OS for grub2
[04:17] <agoole> is anyone else dual booting ?
[04:17] <Steve1804> Kathe: when i type sudo lexmark-inkjet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh I get this:sudo: lexmark-inkjet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh: command not found
[04:18] <windowshasyou> agoole: do you have os-probe installed?
[04:18] <Flannel> Steve1804: You want sudo dpkg -i lexmark-yadda-yadda.deb
[04:18] <administrador_> wea
[04:18] <drizzt_> agoole, it should detect it automatically as 'Windows 7 (loader)'
[04:18] <robotchickenparm> hi guys..  i really could use some help.  my laptop is running karmic and it wont load up.  i did a fresh install of karmic today and it worked for a few hours but i just used the update manager and after the required restart, it wont  finish loading..  it stops on black screen with 2 lines of white text that says /dev/sda1: clean, 130994/2351104 files, 7790779400025 blocks on the first line...
[04:18] <robotchickenparm> ...and /dev/sda1: clean, 130994/2351104 files, 7790779400025 blocks on the second
[04:18] <robotchickenparm> any help would be much appreciated
[04:18] <joe_c8> At drizzt_: Eh!? dying??  Way to many people uses it!
[04:18] <agoole> windowshasyou: whats the package name ? i thought I did though
[04:18] <drizzt_> joe_c8, uses, not develops
[04:18] <agoole> drizzt_: running xp, and it didn't add it, and I did a fresh install tonight
[04:19] <joe_c8> I see...
[04:19] <windowshasyou> agoole: its os-prober
[04:19] <drizzt_> agoole, fresh install of what?
[04:19] <aaro700930> Steve1804: sudo ./lexmark-inkjet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh
[04:19] <agoole> drizzt_: of ubuntu, I just got the install cd tonight, fresh from the website
[04:19] <agoole> windowshasyou: yup, got it
[04:19] <joe_c8> At drizzt_: What will they replace those with now?
[04:20] <agoole> windowshasyou: I tried looking in the grub.cfg file for the os-prober section, and its there, but its blank
[04:20] <chalk> robotchickenparm, sounds like something is wrong with your harddrive, i'm not good with linux
[04:20] <kathe> robotchickenparm, can you press esc before it gets to far along on the cleaning
[04:20] <drizzt_> joe_c8, Java ME&EE and StarOffice, both commercial products
[04:20] <robotchickenparm> what do you mean the cleaning?
[04:20] <robotchickenparm> im sorry i have a lot to learn
[04:21] <robotchickenparm> i used karmic for a year and lucid for 2 weeks with no problems i couldnt handle, somtimes thanks to the help of a very helpful community...  but this i dunno
[04:21] <Flannel> joe_c8: Just ignore drizzt_, OOo won't go away, and certainly not overnight (and if it does, it will go away because there's something better replacing it)
[04:21] <Steve1804> aaro700930: thanks it worked
[04:21] <kathe> robotchickenparm, you know how windows does a hard drive check after improper shut down and it cleans up bad blocks and partitions,  ubuntu has a similiar function, that's what those white lines are, it usually offers you the ability to press esc to get past the check
[04:21] <robotchickenparm> ok
[04:22] <robotchickenparm> lemme try that and see
[04:22] <windowshasyou> agoole: Unfortunately, I'm not good at fixing grub issues.
[04:22] <flan_suse> Has anyone been able to run Runescape in OpenGL mode under Ubuntu? No matter what I tried, I could not get OpenGL mode to work under Ubuntu, but on Windows XP it worked fine.
[04:22] <robotchickenparm> when it was all done i pressed esc but it just made a symbol or somthing
[04:22] <joe_c8> Thanks Flannel!!  Yeah that kinda make sense now! :^)
[04:22] <robotchickenparm> i think it was 3 characters
[04:22] <robotchickenparm> so before it stops hit it?
[04:22] <acerimmer> robotchickenparm: "grub"  ?
[04:22] <kathe> robotchickenparm, that's why i asked to try it before the stop
[04:23] <drizzt_> sorry, I have some bugs in OOO starting from 2004, and they still there, I'd say it's pretty dead
[04:23] <robotchickenparm> k..  im gonna do that right now...
[04:23] <robotchickenparm> 1 sec.
[04:23] <robotchickenparm> thanks
[04:23] <kathe> robotchickenparm if it doesn't get past it, then something is really messed up not just kinda could be a problem
[04:24] <robotchickenparm> when it gets to "gnu grub", should i do recovery mode or regular?
[04:24] <acerimmer> robotchickenparm: recovery
[04:24] <kathe> try regular first
[04:24] <kathe> then trry recovery
[04:25] <nUboon2Age> joe_c8: re OO & Java, I don't think it will mean anything about any versions up till now, but it could effect the future direction.  Let's hope only for the better.  There's been concern for OpenSolaris's future.
[04:27] <kathe> drizzt_ unfortunately ooo has lots of bugs, it's pretty think, but it's not dead
[04:27] <joe_c8> nUboon2Age: Yeah, hence my concerns/questions about it!
[04:27] <robotchickenparm> nvm...  this computer is tiotally screwed...  this is about the 5th problem ive had since yesterday
[04:27] <robotchickenparm> its why i downgraded from lucid back to karmic
[04:27] <robotchickenparm> i apppreciate you trying to help guys
[04:28] <kathe> robotchickenparm... yeah wipe and reinstall karmic if that's the case...
[04:28] <drizzt_> kathe, oh like they added color sheet labels? that's development for sure
[04:28] <robotchickenparm> im thinkin it might be smthing inside thats causing all this...  with the hardware
[04:28] <robotchickenparm> theres anther rblem its having
[04:28] <kathe> drizzt_ i don't disagree with your pessimistic view, i am just saying
[04:29] <kathe> drizzt_ it's still got a heart beat
[04:29] <robotchickenparm> where the screen ges black with a blue-ish blb in the middle f the screen and black virtical lines
[04:29] <kathe> drizzt_ and the much better support of various file formats went a long way for me.
[04:29] <robotchickenparm> and it i get the computer int the perfect positioon it will go away
[04:29] <mistergibson> what is the best package for getting flv videos from web sites?
[04:29] <robotchickenparm> lol i think im screwed
[04:29] <robotchickenparm> do u think dust could cause that?
[04:29] <kathe> robotchickenparm what do you mean the perfect position
[04:30] <acerimmer> mistergibson: you're running ffox?  get teh ytube addon
[04:30] <hiexpo> lol kathe  is it still breathing  :)
[04:30] <stephans> does any one know why minimized windows do not appear as a preview (only an icon) when I alt tab with compiz enabled. Windows that are not minimized appear correctly in a coverflow manner.
[04:30] <mistergibson> acerimmer: ff almost hangs (a site w/ at least 15 flash objects) ... pegs cpu
[04:30] <mmfb> How do you add a program to a panel? I'm trying to put Thunderbird next to Firefox on Panel 1.
[04:30] <robotchickenparm> the right side pred u n a folded pillow
[04:30] <stephans> I KDE they all have thumb nails.
[04:30] <sinistrad> Has anyone found a replacement that works in ubuntu for Picasa's "Hello" program? Google killed the app/service right after it took over.
[04:30] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[04:30] <stephans> But I want to use gnome.
[04:30] <robotchickenparm> \propped up on a folded pillow
[04:30] <kathe> hiezpo if you heard your hand up to it's mouth you can feel a little air
[04:31] <mistergibson> acerimmer: if I had to not use ff - any ideas?
[04:31] <Flannel> mmfb: Create the appropriate shortcut on your desktop, then drag it to the panel
[04:31] <stephans> is there a way to get this to work correctly in gnome?
[04:31] <acerimmer> mistergibson: what browser?
[04:31] <mmfb> Flannel: Haha, thanks. That was crazy easy.
[04:31] <robotchickenparm> lol its insaine
[04:31] <aschmitz> robotchickenparm: I have a semi-similar thing with a laptop I've received. It could be dust, it could be a loose cable, etc.
[04:31] <robotchickenparm> could it be dust or somthing?
[04:31] <mistergibson> acerimmer: hoping to not use a browser ... a scraper?
[04:31] <robotchickenparm> or maybe somthing simple like a lose connector?
[04:32] <kathe> robotchickenparm, yeah, i would blow it out and check the connections
[04:32] <chalk> joshua@SymphonyofTheDawn:~$ cd  ~/Desktop/equinox-gtk-engine.tar.gz
[04:32] <chalk> bash: cd: /home/joshua/Desktop/equinox-gtk-engine.tar.gz: Not a directory
[04:32] <hiexpo> mmfb,  - easiest way is to go into your apps where you launch it and right click on it and click add tp panel no need to add a shortcut to desktop
[04:32] <chalk> what ami doing wrong?
[04:32] <acerimmer> mistergibson: I can only speak to my experience with ffox and the add-ons.  haven't had any need to try other solutions to your prob.
[04:32] <bastid_raZor> stephans: if you use compiz you can enable this in ccsm .. Window Previews
[04:32] <robotchickenparm> and when that happens the computer freezes...  like nothing will happen...  but if i fix it right with the pillow it works
[04:32] <robotchickenparm> somtimes
[04:32] <mistergibson> acerimmer: thanks anyhow
[04:32] <mistergibson> :)
[04:32] <NZheretic> Help. I cannot get Ubuntu 10.4 ppp to authenticate ( No response to PAP authenticate-requests ) when using dial up ( via wvdial/gnome-ppp or pppconfig/pon  ).
[04:32] <aschmitz> robotchickenparm: If you're comfortable taking it apart and putting it back together, I'd try it, yeah.
[04:32] <acerimmer> robotchickenparm: perhaps just cleaning?
[04:32] <kathe> Well I am going to go off tonight
[04:32] <robotchickenparm> i think im gonna wait and try to get one of my morte hardware experienced friends on it
[04:33] <kathe> everyone take care
[04:33] <robotchickenparm> ciz ive never openned a laptop...  i've read about openning this one
[04:33] <robotchickenparm> but i havent tried it
[04:33] <joe_c8> g'night Kathe! :^)
[04:33] <thune3> mistergibson: from youtube or somewhere else? you can install flashblock in ff and only activate it when you need it.
[04:33] <mmfb> Question 2 - How do you create a shortcut?
[04:33] <robotchickenparm> im not too confident right now
[04:33] <robotchickenparm> lol
[04:33] <mistergibson> thune3: thanks, flash is such an ungodly cpu pig
[04:34] <leo> hi everyone any pc/os chat room?
[04:34] <mistergibson> 15 ... the lights truly dim
[04:34] <Bookman> Anyone around to help with a sound problem?  I understand that sound problems and ATI 3D are Linux famous problems not yet solved
[04:34] <wash> Flash isn't too bad, as long as you're not running the 32 bit player on x86_64. The wrapper is rather buggy
[04:34] <drizzt_> mmfb, i believe they're called launchers in gnome
[04:34] <robotchickenparm> its weird, i dont know if it's coincidence or anything, but these problems started up almost immediately after i tried out kde on it to see if maybe my mom or somthing might like it
[04:34] <robotchickenparm> and not too long after i started having all these bugs
[04:35] <robotchickenparm> so i did a fresh install of lucid
[04:35] <robotchickenparm> and thedn the blue blob happenned
[04:35] <acerimmer> robotchickenparm: my laptop definitely slows down running kde.  all that eye candy takes up some serious cpu cycles.
[04:35] <sebsebseb> leo: PC Linux OS you mean?
[04:35] <wash> I find KDE to be particularly buggy too, robot
[04:36] <leo> seb: yes..
[04:36] <robotchickenparm> but that couldn have caused this blob problem could it?  everyone ive talked to today has said dust or a cable
 is ccsm an app?
[04:36] <bastid_raZor> !ccsm | stephans
[04:36] <wash> Firefox'll still be the biggest CPU hog on most systems
[04:36] <acerimmer> robotchickenparm: a little cleaning can't really hurt, can it?
 ok got it...
[04:37] <robotchickenparm> but yea i didnt like kde at all, i removed it right awway, but then my network manager started not showing up in the notificatio area
[04:37] <Bookman> Ok, I will blacklist my machines with sound and ATI requirements
[04:37] <robotchickenparm> followed by a series of similar probs
[04:37] <wash> Network-manager's a pain, just use interfaces.
[04:37] <robotchickenparm> i guess i can give it a shot
[04:37] <sebsebseb> leo: #pclinuxos and theres another channel as well
[04:38] <aschmitz> robotchickenparm: If it's not a geometric "blob" (perfect rectangles, etc), it's probably not a driver/software thing.
[04:38] <Bookman> Kind of limits the usefullness of Linux....2/10 machines
[04:38] <acerimmer> robotchickenparm: "removed"  kde - how?
[04:38] <Guest84375> hmmm debo admitir q mi mama me mima
[04:38] <leo> seb: thx a lot. :)
[04:38] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, whats happening
[04:38] <theadmin> Guest84375: Err, english please
[04:39] <Appl6> leo: sebsebseb: PC/OS and PCLinuxOS are two different distributions.
[04:39] <Appl6> theadmin: You don't want a translation.
[04:39] <Guest84375> ehh suck my beautiful rocket please
[04:39] <theadmin> Appl6: ...I see... :/ What language was that?
[04:39] <robotchickenparm> ummm....
[04:39] <robotchickenparm> ill tell u in one sec
[04:39] <wash> robotchickenparm: I'd advise you to not open up your laptop, even if you think it's hardware damage. Modern laptops tend to be very... "snug" internally. If it was a desktop, that's a different story, but a laptop should go to the store
[04:40] <robotchickenparm> first with apt-get or whatever...  and then all of the kde programs
[04:40] <mistergibson> thune3: thanks a lot! works great ... no cpu issues :) Cheers!
[04:40] <aaro700930> chalk: You need to unpack it, right mouse click Extract here
[04:40] <drizzt_> microsoft is getting desperate? :P
[04:40] <robotchickenparm> i was gonnna find it but that was on that laptop
[04:40] <robotchickenparm> which i already wiped
[04:40] <theadmin> drizzt_: What is this one about?
[04:40] <robotchickenparm> twice since
[04:40] <robotchickenparm> im gonna try opening up and cleaning
[04:40] <drizzt_> they pay mexicans to spam in linux channels lol
[04:40] <hiexpo> drizzt_, what u mean
[04:40] <robotchickenparm> thanks for the support everybody
[04:41] <hiexpo> lol
 Ok I tirned it on... but if a window is minimized it gets no thumb nail? Is that not strange, because that is exactly when you would want a thumbnail?
[04:41] <chalk> aaro700930, i just found out already, but thanks :D
[04:41] <robotchickenparm> i really hope this works
[04:41] <robotchickenparm> bye everybody
[04:41] <robotchickenparm> thanks
[04:41] <IdleOne> !guidelines | drizzt_
[04:41] <drizzt_> do someone use non-UTF-8 system locale?
[04:41] <theadmin> 3.5.9? That's old
[04:42] <aaro700930> drizzt: a mexican here, not spamming
[04:42] <Bookman> Ok, anyone iwith my problem?
[04:43] <NZheretic> Help. I cannot get Ubuntu 10.4 ppp to authenticate ( No response to PAP authenticate-requests ) when using dial up ( via wvdial/gnome-ppp or pppconfig/pon  ).
[04:43] <bastid_raZor> stephans: honestly, i don't use it.. i use cairo-dock in place of my bottom bar, and sadly it too does the same type of window preview, only if the application isn't minimized. possibly ask in #compiz to see if there is some way of tweaking that plugin.
[04:44] <joe_c8> Question!  Is the latest Radeon HD5700 & HD5800 Series graphics card fully working under Ubuntu "Lucid"?
[04:47] <mmfb> How do you create a shortcut on Xubuntu 9.10?
[04:48] <dj_segfault> mmfb: You mean an icon on a desktop or panel to launch an application?
[04:48] <mmfb>  Yes
[04:49] <dj_segfault> mmfb: Find it in the menus, then right click on it, and chose which option you want.
[04:49] <mmfb> dj_segfault: Whenever I rightclick on a program it just opens it.
[04:50] <dj_segfault> Are you sure you're right clicking and not left clicking?
[04:50] <mmfb> dj_segfault: Yes.
[04:50] <dj_segfault> Oh, you're using Xubuntu, which prolly works differently.  Sorry, I didn't see that.
[04:52] <Dmole> anyone know why "df -h" would say 5.4T when "df" said "5768567312"?
[04:52] <bastid_raZor> Dmole: -h means human readable
[04:52] <wash> df -h prints human readable
[04:53] <Dmole> right but I would expect 5.8 not 5.4
[04:53] <Appl6> Dmole: Because 1TB = 2^40.
[04:53] <aLemmer> Hey, I recently edited my user's font.conf to force all fonts of my pixel/small font family to size 7, since the font was created for that specific size. However, my llittle configuration file doesn't work for the fonts in Ubuntu Software Center.
[04:53] <wash> It's a bit contradictory. Usually, UNIX-like systems go out of their way to be not human friendly.
[04:54] <Dmole> Appl6: ah yes it's counting them differently
[04:54] <shauno> Dmole: TB vs TiB still doesn't seem to have made it's mind up
[04:56] <Guest15802>  would i use vgreduce -A datavg /dev/sdb6 to remove sdb6 from a lvm
[04:56] <Dmole> "df -H" is the other counting option
[04:56] <shauno> (imho, mostly because people still make the mental association between TiB and disk manufacturers 'lying' about sold capacity)
[04:56] <Guest15802> or or the switches wrong
[04:57] <Dmole> Guest15802: seems wrong from looking at man vgreduce
[04:58] <H3M10CK> M10CK
[04:58] <H3M10CK> hey
[04:58] <Dmole> Guest15802: "-A" is for autobackup and should have a "y" after it
[04:58] <hotfloppy> hello all..
[04:59] <H3M10CK> Anyone know what channel "The Specialist" is on?
[04:59] <prince_jammys> try #specialist
[04:59] <hotfloppy> this is might be the lamest question ever ask.. but, spare me please... i've installed diveintopython (sudo apt-get install diveintopython).. but how do i read/use it ?
[04:59] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: it's somewhere in /usr/share/doc
[04:59] <H3M10CK> #specialist
[04:59] <H3M10CK> k
[05:00] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: probably /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/index.html
[05:00] <prince_jammys> (guessing)
[05:00] <hotfloppy> yeap.. it is..
[05:00] <hotfloppy> thanks prince_jammys
[05:00] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: that's where doc packages end up
[05:01] <prince_jammys> just data, no programs.
[05:01] <rtronk> is there a easy way, while in root on ubuntu 10.04 basic install to remort back to just ubuntu server
[05:01] <hotfloppy> oic..
[05:01] <brianherman> hey
[05:01] <ua0ds> uduntu-ru
[05:01] <brianherman> ubuntu-ru
[05:01] <brianherman> !ru
[05:02] <Guest15802> Dmole  vgreduce -Ay datavg /dev/sdb6   Is that it to remove drive thats full of stuff to another in the lvm so i can safely remove
[05:02] <Guest15802> Dmole i have 2 drives in the lvm sda1 and sdb6
[05:03] <con-man_> you know how you hold alt in windows for special chars, whats the linux equiv?
[05:03] <con-man_> its like
[05:03] <con-man_> super + something
[05:03] <Guest15802> Dmole sdb6 is giving me problems so id like to remove it from the lvm
[05:04] <Dmole> Guest15802: you need one step before you can do that
[05:04] <Dmole> Guest15802: read this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/removeadisk.html
[05:05] <aLemmer> Anyone? I have a typographical question.
[05:06] <Guest15802> Dmole thanks for the link pvmove first loks like the go
[05:06] <Guest15802> *looks
[05:06] <Guest15802> cheers
[05:06] <joe_c8> What is Typographical? :^)
[05:06] <prince_jammys> aLemmer: is it about ... animals?
[05:07] <usacomputertec> I have a logitech quickcam pro3000 and I need to install pwc but I don't know where to find it.
[05:07] <aLemmer> Ha, ha.
[05:07] <usacomputertec> Can someone help me?
[05:07] <aLemmer> As in typography, type.
[05:07] <aLemmer> Font.
[05:08] <prince_jammys> is it about .. fixed width fonts?
[05:08] <bastid_raZor> !info setpwc | usacomputertec
[05:08] <Dmole> usacomputertec: you may be beyond help
[05:08] <aLemmer> Anywho, Ubuntu Software Center ignores ~\.fonts.conf.
[05:08] <aschmitz> aLemmer: What's the question?
[05:09] <hotfloppy> !python
[05:09] <hotfloppy> !java
[05:09] <hotfloppy> !c++
[05:09] <usacomputertec> setpwc is installed. How do I use it
[05:09] <hotfloppy> !help
[05:09] <Dmole> hotfloppy: http://xkcd.com/353/
[05:10] <bastid_raZor> !msgthebot | hotfloppy
[05:10] <aLemmer> I modified ~\.fonts.conf to assure that fonts never render at any size (for the default Gnome specifications [application and such]) than 7 px. The Ubuntu Software Center is the only application that ignores the rules in ~\.fonts.conf that every other app seems to adhere to.
[05:10] <no-name> in ubuntu 64-bit is all the stuff in Ubuntu Software Centre 64-bit?
[05:10] <kfizz> I have a bluetooth dongle connected to my laptop, how can I get it's MAC address?
[05:10] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: install python-doc if you want more python stuff. diveintopython isn't so great, IMO, if you're beginning.
[05:11] <bastid_raZor> usacomputertec: possibly type: man setpwc   in a terminal to see its usage
[05:11] <usacomputertec> ok.
[05:11] <hotfloppy> lol Dmole.. nice comic strip..
[05:11] <hotfloppy> thanks bastid_raZor
[05:11] <usacomputertec> why can't I just plug in my webcam and use skype?
[05:11] <hotfloppy> prince_jammys: yeap, i'm a beginner..
[05:11] <aschmitz> aLemmer: Sounds like an Ubuntu Software Center problem, perhaps. Don't know, sorry. (Might be intentional to avoid problems with packages, as a failsafe measure? I have no idea.)
[05:12] <prince_jammys> hotfloppy: python-doc has tutorials, if i remember right.
[05:12] <aLemmer> Well I just worry for aesthetic reasons, because have a look at these two links (which I'm setting up now, just a sec'):
[05:12] <steven89> How do I mark an .exe file as executable?
[05:12] <airtonix> steven89, permissions tab
[05:13] <hotfloppy> prince_jammys: i'll check it out.. :)
[05:13] <greenjon> hotfloppy: i like this one too... http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english2e/
[05:13] <Dmole> usacomputertec: because ubuntu is not web cam friendly ye
[05:13] <bastid_raZor> Dmole: please be helpful.
[05:13] <starbuckt> anyone want to try out a pastebin utility I wrote? http://www.tristanwaddington.com/2010/06/upaste/
[05:14] <joe_c8> Er, what would be the best/functional webcam for Ubuntu!?
[05:14] <starbuckt> it's good for posting logs and debugging info
[05:14] <airtonix> starbuckt, ubuntu has pastebinit
[05:14] <starbuckt> oh yeah?
[05:14] <DHowett> ever since the upgrade to karmic, dav-svn (as of subversion 1.6.5) has been serving all files (even with extensions matching those in /etc/mime.types) as binary files, whereas it would previously serve them as text. The subversion patches do not appear to be to blame. There appears to be no way to correct this errant behaviour.
[05:15] <aLemmer> Ah, the Ubuntu Software center uses hardcoded CSS. Can I edit the CSS somehow?
[05:15] <Guest15802> Dmole one of my lv's is bigger than the hdd im removing
[05:15] <hotfloppy> thanks greenjon
[05:15] <DHowett> SVN clients seem to work properly, but browsers offer to download the files instead of just displaying them. Any ideas?
[05:15] <starbuckt> airtonix, nice!
[05:15] <wildbat> !pb | starbuckt
[05:15] <DHowett> this worked with the same exact repositories and the same exact files on jaunty.
[05:15] <wildbat> !pastebinit | starbuckt
[05:15] <hotfloppy> this channel make me love Ubuntu more and more.. ;)
[05:15] <Guest15802> so i neeed to recue the size of datavg/video whick is xfs
[05:15] <airtonix> starbuckt, i dont think it has a tiny tool to do images though
[05:15] <Dmole> bastid_raZor: I know but seriously sometimes you just have to give up before you find yourself writing drivers
[05:15] <usacomputertec> Ok that's cool that it works in skype
[05:15] <greenjon> hotfloppy: you're very welcome. i'm learning python myself and that's one i've mainly been using to learn it hehe
[05:16] <usacomputertec> now how do I get it to work with other apps like my web browser?
[05:16] <nfearnley> I'm trying to setup a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. They both pair correctly, connect and work. After they are disconnect, they won't reconnect unless I remove the pairing and re-pair them. What can I do to allow them to automatically reconnect?
[05:16] <Dmole> Guest15802: how do you expect to remove a drive if you have no where to put the stuff?
[05:16] <moody> anyone remember the name of that PC game that came out in the last year or two where you move little circles and lines around to make different sounds, and it creates electronic music that you can save as a sound file?
[05:17] <Guest15802> dmole i added a 1tb drive to my lvm a month ago
[05:17] <aschmitz> moody: Auditorium? http://www.playauditorium.com/
[05:17] <Guest15802> and the old 500gb drive in the lvm is causing problems
[05:17] <hotfloppy> greenjon: love to learn all the things myself too.. its save me a lot of money.. :P
[05:17] <greenjon> hotfloppy: exactly lol
[05:17] <starbuckt> airtonix, I'll look into pastebinit, my script only supports pastebin.com presently
[05:17] <airtonix> starbuckt, there is something called pyShare, but its not wanting to work for me in lucid. so i made this cli/nautilus script : http://github.com/airtonix/PyImagePoster
[05:18] <moody> aschmitz, it wasn't auditorium... i can't remember the name, i'm trying so hard!
[05:18] <greenjon> hotfloppy: and it's just more enjoyable. great feeling of satisfaction from doing it yourself (IMO anyway)
[05:18] <Dmole> Guest15802: then you should be able to pvmove /dev/0.5T /dev/1T
[05:18] <moody> aschmitz, i remember it being so awesome... it was a windows game, and you moved something like cells and molecules and you could adjust the nucleus and it changed the sound
[05:19] <aschmitz> moody: Sorry, no idea.
[05:19] <hotfloppy> greenjon: agreed !
[05:19] <Guest15802> Dmole yes but i allocated all the space to one lv called /dadatvg/video
[05:20] <Guest15802> and i have another 5 lv's called photos,images,music etc
[05:21] <Guest15802> so i need to reduce the size of the video volume which is xfs to allow the other lv's to move accross as at the moment the vidoe lv is 1.1 tb
[05:21] <usacomputertec> Is anyone listening to me?
[05:21] <Peddy> I just found out that sound alerts come out of the speaker they are closest too. This is awesome.
[05:21] <thune3> con-man_: did you solve you keyboard issues yet?
[05:21] <Dmole> Guest15802: depending on exactly what you have setup you might need a few extra steps to move the data around
[05:22] <usacomputertec> I got my logitech quickcam pro3000 working in Skype now how do I do the same thing in my web browser?
[05:22] <aschmitz> usacomputertec: I think I missed the beginning. Can you restate your question?
[05:22] <corinth> I installed xfce using the xubuntu-desktop metapackage. Can anyone tell me how to remove all packages that xubuntu-desktop installed?
[05:22] <aschmitz> usacomputertec: How are you trying to use it in the browser?
[05:22] <bastid_raZor> corinth: you had ubuntu/gnome before?
[05:22] <corinth> bastid_raZor, yes.
[05:23] <prince_jammys> !puregnome
[05:23] <bastid_raZor> corinth: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:23] <usacomputertec> aschmitz I need to use the web cam to chat. I need JAVA to use the webcam
[05:23] <prince_jammys> mm
[05:23] <bastid_raZor> prince_jammys: the factoid is gone for some reason.
[05:23] <prince_jammys> ah
[05:23] <corinth> Thanks a ton.
[05:23] <usacomputertec> I can get skype to by doing this: bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype'
[05:23] <bastid_raZor> corinth: make sure you pick the correct version of ubuntu
[05:23] <aschmitz> usacomputertec: Sorry, I don't know about Java and webcams. Flash, I might be able to help with.
[05:24] <hiexpo> prince_jammys,  puregnime?
[05:24] <usacomputertec> aschmitz maybe it's flash then
[05:24] <hiexpo> puregnome
[05:24] <aschmitz> usacomputertec: What program/website are you trying to use?
[05:24] <prince_jammys> bastid_raZor: probably because it's easier to do now than when that doc was written
[05:24] <corinth> I'm using Lucid, bastid_raZor. Thanks though.
[05:25] <usacomputertec> chat roulette
[05:25] <usacomputertec> www.chatroulette.com
[05:25] <nfearnley> moody: Was the game microsia?
[05:25] <nfearnley> moody: http://www.microsia.de/
[05:25] <moody> nfearnley, thats it, thanks!
[05:25] <astralpop> Hi
[05:25] <nfearnley> moody, n/p
[05:25] <Guest15802> Dmole i used lvextend -L +900G /dev/datavg/lv_video
[05:25] <hiexpo> !hi | astralpop
[05:26] <usacomputertec> Like I said in order to get my webcam working with skype I have to enter bash-c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype'
[05:26] <astralpop> It just crossed my mind I could ask my question here.
[05:26] <markcl> im trying to sync things using lftp via mirror, everything's fine but the permissions of the target file should be different from that of the source file. what option can i use so that the permissions of the uploaded files are then different?
[05:26] <astralpop> I cant view embedded videos on web pages.
[05:26] <nfearnley> Can anyone help me with bluetooth reconnect issues for my bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[05:26] <usacomputertec> so maybe if I do the same and replace skype with googlechrome I'll get it to work?
[05:26] <aschmitz> usacomputertec: Try the same LD_PRELOAD with firefox (or chromium, or whatever you're using to browse with).
[05:26] <Guest15802> Dmole to expand but i nned to reduce lv-video to 700g to alow for my other lv's
[05:27] <hiexpo> astralpop,  do u have java
[05:27] <astralpop> Yes
[05:27] <astralpop> Tried manually installing the latest as well.
[05:27] <hiexpo> astralpop,  jdk6
[05:28] <astralpop> have that as well
[05:28] <usacomputertec> it works
[05:29] <hiexpo> astralpop,  shockwave flasdh
[05:29] <astralpop> yep
[05:29] <hiexpo> flash
[05:29] <astralpop> Both are confirming on their web sites as well.
[05:30] <prince_jammys> !flash
[05:30] <hiexpo> astralpop,  divx web player
[05:30] <NZheretic> Not wanting to flame, but why has Ubuntu 10.04 screwed up POT dial-up with the version of ppp it is using.  I can get fedora 12 ppp  (ver 2.4.5-8 ) to pap/chap authenticate a dial up session with no problems, but Ubuntu 10.04 ppp fails no matter what options I set in /etc/ppp/options etc.
[05:30] <astralpop> Im pretty sure I have dixv web player
[05:31] <Ellement> I'm trying to install ubuntu 10.04 LTS, and my pc reboots when it tries to install to partition. i only have a sata hard drive plugged in, with all integrated periperhals turned off. i'm booting from a usb key. any ideas?
[05:31] <hiexpo> astralpop,  open firefox click addons and see
[05:31] <julian_> I'm confused on how to install the ppa for the gvfs package.  Any help?
[05:33] <aschmitz> usacomputertec: Good to hear. I don't know if it'll work, but try creating /etc/ld.so.preload with the contents "/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so" by itself. (You'll need to create the file as root, because it's in /etc.)
[05:33] <iromli> hi guys, what library/header needed for fixing Firefox tidy html addon? i'm using lucid ...
[05:34] <corinth> What's the proper way to unpack a tar.bz in terminal?
[05:34] <aschmitz> usacomputertec: (If that works, the webcam should work without any special launcher hijinks.)
[05:34] <aschmitz> corinth: tar xvjf [file.tar.bz]
[05:34] <prince_jammys> corinth: tar xjf file
[05:34] <rottenstock> how odd
[05:34] <rottenstock> apparantly im in this channel twice
[05:34] <rottenstock> but i only have 1 copy of xchat going
[05:35] <aschmitz> corinth: (With or without the v is fine, the v just shows details.)
[05:35] <corinth> Thanks!
[05:35] <hiexpo> rottenstock, u didnt properlly log out than don't worry
[05:36] <rottenstock> ok.
[05:36] <Ellement> aschmitz: when you get a chance, could you help me with an installation issue?
[05:37] <ohzie> Guys just in case you randomly needed a machine to duplicate tons of hard drives on: I just got everything working on this ASROCK 3-way crossfire board. Three Rocketraid 3420's and a whole lot of trayless hotswap bays on the front. It is amazing.
[05:37] <Omen_20> Apparently Bluray is possible on linux now: http://www.korben.info/lire-bluray-linux.html
[05:37] <ohzie> Bash script to DD a bunch of /dev/sd devices. I'm set.
[05:37] <ohzie> =D
[05:37] <aschmitz> Ellement: I can try, feel free to ask.
[05:37] <iromli> what library/header needed for fixing Firefox tidy html addon? i'm using lucid ...
[05:38] <doormat81> Is there some way to adjust the mousewheel scroll speed in Ubuntu?
[05:38] <Ellement> aschmitz: thanks, when i get to installtion ubuntu to my sata drive, its cut short within 1 min and reboots
[05:39] <aLemmer> Is there anyway to customize the CSS used in Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:39] <prince_jammys> yes
[05:39] <chuck_> I lost my panel when I login any help?
[05:40] <dj_segfault> If I want to control one Ubuntu box from another, what server and client do I use?  Remote Desktop is for Windows not Linux, right?
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> !panels | chuck_
[05:40] <aschmitz> Ellement: That does seem rather odd. What's the last step it goes through before rebooting?
[05:40] <nfearnley> dj_segfault: You need a VNC client.
[05:40] <prince_jammys> or ssh
[05:40] <dj_segfault> nfearnley: And what do I run on the box to be controlled?
[05:40] <julian_> How to I install the ppa for gvfs and libgod4?
[05:41] <aschmitz> !vnc | dj_segfault
[05:41] <Ellement> iaschmitz: it starts installing to drive, its so quick to see but goe to about 15% then stops and moves on to something else at 0% then reboots shortly after. sorry for lack of info
[05:41] <nfearnley> dj_segfault: Ubuntu comes with a remote desktop server. It runs VNC server.
[05:41] <astralpop> Ok, that worked. What horrible secuirty hole did I make?
[05:41] <Ellement> aschmitz: i'm currently checking disc for defects
[05:41] <Ellement> aschmitz: says no errors found
[05:41] <dj_segfault> nfearnley: OK, but what app do I have to start to serve vnc?
[05:41] <chuck_> bastid_raZor, boss will the panel be back next login?
[05:41] <aschmitz> Ellement: Huh. Well, there goes one possibility. Memory test?
[05:42] <astralpop> Yea where is the control for mouse scrool speed ?
[05:42] <doormat81> And is there a database format that allows you to stop media files within the database itself (audio, video, etc)?
[05:42] <Ellement> aschmitz: ok ill try memory test.
[05:42] <corinth> Anyone know how to install babl? I'm having trouble using git. Don't know how to use git, really...
[05:42] <aschmitz> astralpop: There's no central one as far as I know. What kind of mouse are you using?
[05:42] <astralpop> regular usb
[05:42] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: look in .xsession-errors  .. see if there is a reason the gnome-panel died.
[05:43] <Ellement> aschmitz: that looks at ram?
[05:43] <nfearnley> dj_segfault: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[05:43] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: and yes it should be there on a reboot
[05:43] <aschmitz> Ellement: Yep.
[05:43] <chuck_> thank you again!
[05:43] <iromli> what library/header needed for fixing Firefox tidy html addon? i'm using lucid ...
[05:43] <Ellement> aschmitz: ok test 3, at 21% and 4000 errors and counting
[05:43] <aschmitz> Ellement: Mm, that's a problem.
[05:43] <chuck_> gedit /?/?/.xsessions-error? bastid_raZor
[05:44] <aschmitz> Ellement: Turn your computer off, try unplugging the RAM, and plug it back in, then try the memory test again.
[05:44] <Ellement> aschmitz: ok good idea
[05:44] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: gedit ~/.xession-errors
[05:44] <aschmitz> Ellement: (Memory having errors means that unpredictable things will happen when running programs, including installation, so that's probably the source of your problem.)
[05:45] <chuck_> o.O ty again!
[05:45] <dj_segfault> nfearnley: Got it.  Thanks.  So do I use Remote Desktop Viewer on the controlling machine then?
[05:45] <thune3> julian_: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware
[05:46] <julian_> thanks thune3, i'm a little confused on how to actually get the ppa location.
[05:46] <GRIM-mobile> Can anyone point me to where I can find a description of the network manager applet icons?
[05:47] <nfearnley> dj_segfault: Yes. That should work for Ubuntu <-> Ubuntu connections. If you need another OS support, there's plenty of free servers/clients.
[05:47] <dj_segfault> nfearnley: OK, looks like a firewall issue is preventing it from working.  I'll bang on that.  Thanks
[05:47] <chuck_> bastid_raZor, I see I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/shelby/.compiz/usr/bin/compiz (core) - warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[05:48] <GRIM-mobile> The problem is Im getting this blank icon with a red exclamation point when I connect to my N network
[05:48] <bastid_raZor> julian_: why are you using a ppa for gvfs?
[05:48] <chuck_> darn compiz Q_Q
[05:48] <jmcantrell> how can i format a drive in the native mac format so that it will be readable by osx?
[05:48] <julian_> hello bastid...actually, i don't know.  It happens when I update.
[05:48] <corinth> Does anyone have Netflix streaming working in Ubuntu? (Outside of a VM)
[05:48] <thune3> julian_: ppa are for upgrading certian software to versions different/more recent than that available in the standard repos. Generally they are unnecessary.
[05:48] <bastid_raZor> julian_: remove the ppa, is my suggestion.
[05:49] <julian_> ok, I'll just leave it alone then.  thanks for your help.  How would i remove it?  just uncheck "ppa" from software sources?
[05:49] <GRIM-mobile> Ive looked all over and for the life of me I cant find a simple description of icons
[05:49] <bastid_raZor> julian_: yes
[05:49] <hiexpo> i am the worst on partitioning///  so i need help i need to partion my thumb drive 1 gb of fat 32 and the other side as ext2
[05:50] <julian_> ok, thanks again bastid_raZor and thune3.  I really appreciate it.
[05:50] <Ellement> aschmitz: ok took all mem sticks except one, will try mem test again
[05:50] <aschmitz> hiexpo: You can use gparted. Why are you trying to do ext2 on most of it?
[05:51] <Dmstrdj> just cannot get this older ubuntu machine to shut down on command just restarts everytime
[05:51] <hiexpo> aschmitz,  because i am going to update a live cd system
[05:51] <GRIM-mobile> Right. these icons are beyond everyone
[05:51] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i accidentally have removed the package that taskbar needs and now i can only see the desktop and the icons on it! Can anybody help? Please...
[05:52] <aschmitz> hiexpo: Ah, fun. I'd use gparted, but you may have to install it. It'll show up under System->Administration->gparted. Otherwise, you may try System->Administration->Disk Utility.
[05:52] <x_> hi everyone. how do i get higer than native resolution on my laptop with legacy radeon driver? my current "native" resolution is 1366x768 but i want to try 1440x900 "higher than native" resolution. I added a modeline for "1440x900@60" in the monitor section and added entry for it in the display section in my xorg.conf. I am on lucid btw. Any ideas?
[05:52] <cozziemoto> GRIM-mobile,  what kind of discription are you looking for??
[05:52] <x_> higher*
[05:52] <naftilos76> Which package do i need to re-install???
[05:52] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: i normally see tons of compiz errors/warnings .. nearly all can be ignored
[05:52] <iromli> is anyone knows what library/header needed for fixing Firefox tidy html addon? i'm using lucid ...
[05:52] <GRIM-mobile> Just a simple description of what the icons mean
[05:52] <mickster14> naftilos76: reisntall it? what did u remove?
[05:52] <hiexpo> aschmitz,  ya i knowall that other stuff lol thanx
[05:52] <mickster14> !panel | naftilos76
[05:52] <naftilos76> thanks!!!
[05:53] <bastid_raZor> !resetpanels | naftilos76
[05:53] <bastid_raZor> naftilos76: try that first. see if the panels come back
[05:53] <stuart_> How should I set up users for a server application (ie. what parameters to adduser)?
[05:53] <cozziemoto> GRIM-mobile,   on gnome?  if so where exactly?
[05:54] <x_> I cannot get this my custom resolution to show up in System>Pref>Monitors.  I added a modeline for "1440x900@60" in the monitor section and added entry for it in the display section in my xorg.conf.
[05:54] <aschmitz> Ellement: If it looks like it's working on the one stick, I'd try adding them back in until you have a problem, because more RAM is usually useful in a computer.
[05:54] <GRIM-mobile> cozziemoto: If standard ubuntu that you get from the site is gnome then yes, And the icons for network manager applet
[05:54] <cozziemoto> GRIM-mobile,  ah I see hold on let me open that
[05:54] <chuck_> hmm then I wonder what could have caused the crash...
[05:55] <stuart_> How should I set up a dedicated user for a TF2 server (ie. what parameters to adduser)?
[05:55] <chuck_> thanks for the help bastid_raZor!
[05:55] <mickster04> stuart_: it isn't out for *nix yet is it?
[05:55] <Ellement> aschmitz: ok dill do
[05:55] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: good luck :)
[05:55] <cozziemoto> GRIM-mobile,  ok  are you opening system /preferences/ network connections  or system/administration/network tools ??
[05:56] <stuart_> mickster04: source dedicated server has always been out for Linux
[05:56] <mickster04> stuart_: oh yeah fair point
[05:56] <joejc> can someone help me with this http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#pki ?
[05:56] <GRIM-mobile> cozziemoto: Im refering to the applet in the taskbar. I would like a page with a description of what the icons it displays mean
[05:56] <aschmitz> Ellement: (Er, by "until you have a problem," I mean "until the memory test shows a problem," because otherwise you'll have unpredictable errors. You don't really have to wait for the whole thing to finish, just let it go for a minute or so.)
[05:56] <dj_segfault> I got VNC remote connection from one Ubuntu system (A) the other (B), and (A) can control (B), but once (A) displays (B)'s screen, it never changes on (A) even though it changes on (B).  All I ever see is the initial image.  Am I doing something wrong?
[05:57] <hbsmiley7> if i was trying to install the nvidia graphics driver (195...), is it a red light if it gives errors on the "pre-install" script?
[05:57] <x_> anybody?
[05:57] <mickster04> x_: saying anybody won't help you at all...
[05:57] <x_> I've uploaded my xorg.conf to pastebin if anybody wants to have a look
[05:57] <cozziemoto> hbsmiley7,  install the nvidia_current driver
[05:57] <x_> somebody?
[05:58] <Ellement> aschmitz: ok
[05:58] <x_> http://pastebin.com/bYzxBt5w
[05:58] <mickster04> !return
[05:58] <niku> x_ - if your xorg.conf is broken, usually the safest bet is to mv it to xorg.conf.bak and restart
[05:58] <x_> niku,  its not broken .. i am still at native res
[05:58] <GRIM-mobile> Ok, well if there isnt a page that describes the network manager applet icons can anyone tell me what a greyed out icon with a red exclamtion point means?
[05:58] <GRIM-mobile> The connection works fine
[05:59] <niku> x_ then take look at jocky
[05:59] <x_> i want to be able to switch to a custom  resolution
[05:59] <hbsmiley7> cozziemoto: how would one do that?
[05:59] <niku> x_ or xrandr
[05:59] <x_> jocky? is it an application i install on my lucid?
[05:59] <cozziemoto> hbsmiley7,  go into  system/administration/hardware drivers
[05:59] <cozziemoto> hbsmiley7, choose the nvidia_current
[05:59] <cozziemoto> GRIM-mobile,  let me google
[06:00] <niku> x_ if you drop down to a terminal, and type jocky and then hit the tab key it will show one thats like "jocky-gtk" or somthing similar
[06:00] <x_> niku .. i am googling it. thanks
[06:00] <GRIM-mobile> cozziemoto: Hehe good luck :)
[06:00] <corinth> How do I use git clone to install something? babl, specifically. I know the url is git://git.gnome.org/babl
[06:00] <niku> x_, xrandr will allow you to change the resolution from the command line
[06:00] <x_> ok. will get back
[06:00] <hbsmiley7> cozziemoto: thanks for the help
[06:00] <mickster04> has anyone heard or tried using gmabooster?
[06:01] <cozziemoto> hbsmiley7,  did you get that installed?
[06:01] <cozziemoto> hbsmiley7,   if so  reboot the computer
[06:01] <x_> jockey-gtk says no proprietary drivers. ... btw i am on a radeon legacy driver ... old x1200 chipset on my laptop
[06:01] <nfearnley> dj_segfault: Did you make sure to select VNC as your protocol?
[06:02] <red2kic> What's the command to search for "whatever" channels?
[06:02] <x_> niku xrandr reports 1366 as the higest resolution
[06:02] <niku> x_ then try the xrandr see if it supports higher resoltions w/ the native drivers
[06:02] <bastid_raZor> x_: an RS690M ?
[06:02] <x_> i want 1440
[06:02] <x_> oh yeah
[06:02] <naftilos76> bastid_raZor: Back in order! Thanks guys
[06:02] <hbsmiley7> cozziemoto: i have a unique problem with my setup since I have dual video cards and it never wants to update xorg automatically to reflect that, so i'll figure that out first before reboot, haha
[06:02] <x_> bastid_raZor, niku yes R690M
[06:03] <dj_segfault> nfearnley: Yes.  As I said, it now connects and I see the screen, but it never changes on the controlling computer, even though it's really controlling and changing things on the controlled computer.
[06:03] <x_> i have added a modeline in my xorg.conf ... but i cannot select it
[06:03] <niku> x_ just pop on the command line and run xrandr, if it supports that high with the current driver, it will show it as an option
[06:03] <nfearnley> dj_segfault: What are the server settings?
[06:03] <bastid_raZor> x_: i have the exact card in this laptop.. 1280x800@60 is the best i can do
[06:03] <niku> x_, the driver may not support higher than that w/ the open source driver
[06:04] <x_> yeah ... but i want a higher than native resolution ... which does not list in the xrandr list
[06:04] <niku> you could check the "linux hardware database" to check for the correct driver
[06:04] <niku> like, virtual resolution?
[06:04] <x_> niku ... this driver came with the distro (10.04)
[06:04] <cozziemoto> hbsmiley7,  ah I see... I dont have any experience with more than one video card... sorry :)
[06:04] <cozziemoto> hbsmiley7,  although I have talked with people with 2  and 4 nvidia cards
[06:05] <bastid_raZor> x_: the radeon driver
[06:05] <x_> i yes non-native scaled down resolution
[06:05] <x_> yes
[06:05] <dj_segfault> nfearnley: Allow others to view/control, I put in a password to require, configure network automatically to accept connections.
[06:05] <aschmitz> Ellement: Does it seem to be going okay?
[06:05] <Vigo> Can I install Ubuntu 10 Lucid but omit a few applications that I never use and never have used? If so, is it a minimal install or is there a Net Install where I can  pre-select what Applications/Software are loaded before commiting to install?
[06:05] <niku> x_ - I dunno man, I don't specialize in x. you could try the x.org mailinglist
[06:06] <red2kic> !minimal | Vigo
[06:06] <hbsmiley7> cozziemoto: well wish me luck, I have tried this plenty of times and never been successful, and then I get fed up and go back to windows for a while... and then get fed up with windows and the process repeats, haha
[06:06] <Ellement> aschmitz: i have 3/4 sticks in and doing test, so far so good
[06:06] <nfearnley> dj_segfault: I'm not sure how to help you then. You'll have to see if someone else knows more.
[06:06] <nfearnley> I'm trying to setup a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. They both pair correctly, connect and work. After they are disconnected, they won't reconnect unless I remove the pairing and re-pair them. What can I do to allow them to automatically reconnect?
[06:06] <x_> i tried different options like setting UseEDID "false" but to no avail
[06:06] <red2kic> Vigo: From there, you won't have any X, you'll have to install packages as you go to meet your desires.
[06:06] <dj_segfault> nfearnley: ok, thanks.
[06:06] <Vigo> red2kic: Thank you.
[06:06] <mickster04> x_: try mv .bak and restarting, then readding the line if it doen't appear, you are probably using he vesa drivers though:/
[06:07] <x_> on my intel graphics on my desktop i could run at hierh than native resolutin easily
[06:07] <Lt_Wolf> I love high resolutins
[06:07] <x_> mickster04, http://pastebin.com/bYzxBt5w which line?
[06:08] <coryewest> I have a question regarding user accounts
[06:08] <x_> Lt_Wolf, i HATE low resolutions
[06:08] <aLemmer> Anyone know how I could prevent Pidgin from sporting annoying square-brackets around window titles?
[06:08] <chuck_> bastid_raZor, u still around? I reboot and still not there.
[06:08] <x_> i know quality is best at native ... but i have some applications which i am used to at higher resolutions
[06:09] <mickster04> x_: have you actually tried backing up and restarting. I have a funny feeling it may well help. even if it just cleans up your xorg.conf
[06:09] <aLemmer> Oh wait, it's for all windows that have updated since last focus.
[06:09] <x_> yes i tried rebooting. restarting x ... breaking x .. correcting syntax errors .. rebooting over and over
[06:09] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:09] <coryewest> Any one good at knowing how to restrict accounts?
[06:10] <chuck_> 10.04
[06:10] <iromli> what package that contains libxpcom.so ?
[06:10] <x_> ^ mickster04
[06:10] <x_> this is the current xorg.conf that is loaded right now ... with the modeline .... but i cannot choose it
[06:10] <red2kic> What is the IRC commands that will allow me to search for particular channels?
[06:10] <coryewest> qiut
[06:10] <coryewest> quit
[06:10] <aLemmer> So is there any way to disable the square bracket encasing for minimized window titles?
[06:11] <mickster04> x_: you still haven
[06:11] <mickster04> x_: you still haven't removed the corg.conf:/
[06:11] <Ellement> aschmitz: ok i have isolated the bad ram. should i now try install?
[06:11] <dj_segfault> red2kic: It's much easier to do it from the freenode website
[06:11] <Vigo> red2kic: Wowies, that is a 20mb .ISO, do I need one of those tiny CD-Rs or can I use a CD-RW and re use it after install?
[06:11] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: do you get any results from this: ps aux | grep -i gnome-panel
[06:11] <x_> mickster04, removed it? as in delete it?
[06:12] <mickster04> x_: no as in sudo mv corg.vonf.bk
[06:12] <mickster04> x_: no as in sudo mv corg.conf.bk
[06:12] <red2kic> Vigo: Mmm. Do what you want. You even can burn 20BMB onto the dvd.
[06:12] <mickster04> x_: its as good as removing it without deleting it
[06:12] <chuck_> one sec bastid_raZor need to plug in this laptop and will try it asap
[06:12] <red2kic> Vigo: It's just small, but the latest packages will be retrieved from the Internet.
[06:12] <aschmitz> Ellement: Yep, as long as the bad RAM is out.
[06:13] <Ellement> aschmitz: great. will try now
[06:13] <aLemmer> Anyway to disable the square brackets in GNOME for minimized window titles?
[06:13] <red2kic> Vigo: Just don't use any metapackages (ie ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop) but ubuntu-minimal should be enabled though.
[06:13] <x_> yeah ... mickster04 i actually messed up my xorg.conf earlier .... which failed and i asked X to create a new one ... this is the fresh one ... with the added modeline. do you want me to recreate the xorg.conf afresh? btw 1440 is not what is going to be detected coz it is not in the EDID of my monitor ... i want to go higher than native here
[06:14] <Vigo> red2kic: Okee dokee, Thank you, that is what I wanted, a Net Install doo-hicky, this way I can sorta custom spin it, I think?
[06:14] <chuck_> bastid_raZor, yes I got something
[06:14] <mickster04> aLemmer: might this help? https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/255316
[06:15] <aLemmer> Aw, I was hoping there was a way around that after Google-searching.
[06:15] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: more than : grep -i gnome-panel
[06:15] <red2kic> Vigo: Sure. You will want to install gnome-core (if you like Gnome) and gdm and few other packages. It should pull in dependencies and viola!
[06:15] <chuck_> yes
[06:15] <mickster04> x_: oh well no idea then: if you created a fresh one already this wouldn't help anymore...altho it may have just tried to fix the previous one rather than start from scratch, i dunno if that would make a difference
[06:15] <zjm> pattern
[06:15] <x_> mickster04, i have 2-3 backups lol
[06:15] <Vigo> red2kic: That is the "and type "sudo tasksel" part?
[06:16] <mickster04> x_: heh, nm
[06:16] <mickster04> righ im off
[06:16] <mickster04> i should be asleep
[06:16] <red2kic> Vigo: Yes, metapackages generally are listed in "sudo tasksel"
[06:16] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: type killall gnome-panel   .. do the panels show up after about 5 seconds
[06:16] <x_> it was so easy with the intel drivers ... no problemo .. add modeline .. select it ..voila ... but am sstuck on this on my laptop
[06:16] <Vigo> red2kic: Thank you kindly.
[06:16] <niku> red2kic, Vigo - if you install ubuntu-desktop, that's the gnome meta-package
[06:16] <niku> w/ all the dependencies and goodies
[06:16] <chuck_> no
[06:17] <chuck_> gave me a bash error bastid_raZor
[06:17] <Ellement> aschmitz: install going well so far
[06:17] <pishta> Help, I need to get my ATI M4 graphics working..
[06:17] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: what was the error?
[06:17] <chuck_> sorry fat fingered the command
[06:17] <aschmitz> Ellement: Cool.
[06:17] <chuck_> yes panels back
[06:17] <RedXIII_> I'm having a problem getting Tor to run on Firefox in Lucid Lynx
[06:17] <x_> anybody with Xorg+radeon experience going higher than native resolution?
[06:17] <RedXIII_> I have an onion address I want to open, so I installed Tor from torproject
[06:17] <RedXIII_> I also installed the torbutton addon to firefox
[06:18] <pishta> can only run in low res failsafe
[06:18] <RedXIII_> Every time I turn on torbutton I get "Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections."
[06:18] <Guest64158> me too
[06:18] <RedXIII_> Any solutions?
[06:18] <Vigo> niku: Ut Oh. so if I chose Gnome I would get Bluez, Cloud and Aisleroot solitaire and stuff?
[06:19] <red2kic> niku, Vigo: Ubuntu-desktop will pull in gnome-core -- but that's not same as gnome-core pulling in ubuntu-desktop since ubuntu-desktop have many packages tied up as dependencies (ie tomboy, lolgames, openoffices, etc).
[06:19] <pishta> it shows 4 different resolutions but all but one are 61MHz and those give me a diagonal pic
[06:19] <aLemmer> So there really isn't a configuration file for setting minimized window titles?
[06:19] <red2kic> Vigo: gnome-core won't pull in bluetooth. You'll have to install them yourself. :)
[06:20] <Vigo> red2kic: Okee dokee that is what  I was sorta aiming for, I have a custom spin of 8.04.3, but it is getting tired now.
[06:20] <niku> Vigo, yes, as opposed to gnome-core which will just be the desktop, gtk, and basics
[06:20] <chuck_> yes panels back bastid_raZor
[06:21] <marcio> alguem poderia me ajudar
[06:21] <red2kic> Vigo: Nice. :)
[06:21] <niku> Vigo, red2koc had described it correctly, ubuntu-destkop includes gnome-core
[06:21] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: and you didn't see anything in .xsession-errors about gnome-panel ?
[06:21] <x_> niku, any X related channel I can checkup on?
[06:21] <Guest9851> como eu poderia fazer o meu hotmail funcionar no ubuntu
[06:21] <chuck_> no but i will look again bastid_raZor
[06:21] <niku> x_ not sure, I'd think mailing lists are the way to go
[06:21] <lifestream> Guest9851, #ubuntup-pt
[06:21] <doormat81> Okay... annoying as hell: how do I adjust my mousewheel's scroll speed??
[06:21] <x_> ty
[06:21] <Ellement> aschmitz: is it possible to login to ubuntu from mac or pc without having to be logged in already on the ubuntu machine?
[06:21] <lifestream> Guest9851, #ubuntup-br    , desculpe, este e o certo
[06:21] <niku> x_ slower response time, but it will reach a large number of x specialists
[06:21] <Guest64158> Ellement, y
[06:22] <bastid_raZor> Ellement: ssh
[06:22] <Guest64158> haha
[06:22] <pejman> q
[06:22] <Guest64158> Ellement, ssshh!
[06:22] <x_> i think somone may already have raised such a common issue ... tried google .. then came here
[06:22] <Ellement> haha
[06:22] <aschmitz> Ellement: Using ssh will get you a command prompt.
[06:22] <chuck_> Yes bastid_raZor
[06:23] <lifestream> Is there a some sort of quick guide to netbooks, and which are compatible with ubuntu, what problems they have with ubuntu, etc? I'm SICK of googling! LOL
[06:23] <chuck_> GLiB-Critcal error
[06:23] <aschmitz> Also, you can use NX, I think. (Haven't used it, personally, though.)
[06:23] <niku> Ellement, also, if you want a desktop, you can use vnc, or the linux terminal services
[06:23] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: what is the error?
[06:23] <aschmitz> !nx | Ellement
[06:23] <chuck_> gnome auth agent-1:1516
[06:23] <Ellement> thanks
[06:23] <niku> Ellement, if you ssh -X linux_machine
[06:23] <chuck_> sorry cannot copy and past on netbook and pc with dead panel also has no network connection atm
[06:23] <Vigo> red2kic, niku: So I select gnome-core then spin them in as needed or required?
[06:24] <niku> Vigo, you can do it that way, although it's usually easier to remove stuff after
[06:24] <Ellement> do i need to install anything on ubuntu. i want to to login to desktop
[06:24] <niku> Ellement, you can launch a command and have it show up on max/win box
[06:24] <Ellement> FreeNX looks like it will do what i wamt
[06:24] <red2kic> Vigo: gnome-core gdm x11-xserver-utils
[06:25] <niku> Ellement, I'd look @ vnc: you can install a vnc server through synaptic, or ubuntu software manager
[06:25] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: normally the gnome-panel fails to start when an applet that is added crashes.. the first command i gave you should have removed that thoug.
[06:25] <red2kic> Vigo: Then you add what you want, themes and applications.
[06:25] <Ellement> vnc ok will look into that also
[06:25] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: i have to sleep, work in 4 hours.
[06:25] <chuck_> bastid_raZor, I can now give u exact error msg if that helps
[06:25] <chuck_> ok sir I will do some googling
[06:25] <Ellement> ok so i install vnc server on ubuntu and vnc viewer on client pc or mac?
[06:26] <bastid_raZor> chuck_: best of luck.
[06:26] <chuck_> thank you sir! bastid_raZor
[06:26] <niku> Ellement, yes. You'll need to start the vnc server, but that's fairly straight forward
[06:26] <SReject> *nix help please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=H09UPmVa
[06:27] <niku> Ellement, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[06:27] <Vigo> niku, red2kic: Thank you kindly, this should be fun and I need the learning experience to show others it can be done on sight.
[06:27] <Ellement> can i start vnc server and then logout? so i can then login remotely with different account tho?
[06:27] <pishta> ex-chat
[06:28] <red2kic> Vigo: The same idea can be applied for just about anything. I wanted a media center and nothing else. So I start off with few essential packages then xbmc (popular media center). Eventually I add samba and cups (for printer sharing). Kinda making it my home server + media center. :)
[06:28] <niku> Vigo, if you're in it for the learning, you should check out an ubuntu online class http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training
[06:29] <Ellement> sorry got disconnected by last question was: can i start vnc server and then logout? so i can then login remotely with different account tho?
[06:29] <lifestream> Is there a some sort of quick guide to netbooks, and which are compatible with ubuntu, what problems they have with ubuntu, etc? I'm SICK of googling! LOL
[06:29] <niku> Ellement - you should be able to have multiple different accounts logged in @ the same time w/ different users
[06:30] <Ellement> niku: ah ok
[06:30] <niku> lifestream, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:30] <niku> lifestream, also, basically all dell machines
[06:30] <lifestream> niku,  you mean the ones sold with ubuntu
[06:30] <niku> lifestream, since they offer to install ubuntu instead of windows
[06:31] <Ellement> niku: but a user has to be logged in at any time for vnc server?
[06:31] <lifestream> niku,  thank you for the link
[06:31] <Vigo> red2kic, niku: I did the same with Media Ubuntu before it was recognized, and niku, I like those classes, I passed them when they were free back in Dapper Daze. But I thank you kindly for the heads up on it.
[06:31] <aLemmer> Is there anyway to manipulate the window title behavior in Gnome?
[06:31] <hbsmiley7> umm, so i am getting failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module after running "sudo nvidia-xconfig -a"
[06:31] <niku> Ellement, you can disconnect, and leave the session running and re-connect to it
[06:31] <niku> hbsmiley7, try using jocky-gtk
[06:31] <hbsmiley7> and if i try to start gdm i get the same error, it's fatal
[06:32] <niku> hbsmiley7, that may not be exactly the right command name, but it's close
[06:32] <niku> should load the module if it's not installed correctly. Sometimes after you've upgraded the kernel, a module can get borked
[06:32] <Ellement> niku: on windows server for instance u can logout, i cant emulate that on ubuntu?
[06:33] <niku> Ellement, you can log out, and then log back in, or you can terminate the session
[06:33] <monokrome> Hey. Does anyone know how to "burn" a bootable ISO to a USB drive? It's not a Linux ISO, so I can't use the startup disk creator.
[06:33] <niku> it's basically a rdp altenrative
[06:33] <hbsmiley7> niku: i had to use jockey-text, i can't get X running, and anyways it just through warnings at me and stopped searching for drivers
[06:33] <niku> monokrome, unetbootin or something
[06:34] <hbsmiley7> niku: threw*
[06:34] <niku> hbsmiley7, yeesh. :)
[06:34] <monokrome> niku: No other tools?
[06:34] <niku> hbsmiley7, running it w/ sudo?
[06:34] <red2kic> monokrome: dd? ;o
[06:34] <monokrome> dd wouldn't work
[06:34] <niku> the mv your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.back
[06:34] <red2kic> monokrome: Why not?
[06:34] <monokrome> niku: I thought unetbootin was only for Linux ISOs
[06:35] <hbsmiley7> niku: now i am, same result
[06:35] <monokrome> red2kic: Try it
[06:35] <Vigo> aLemmer: Yes, there are a few ways, Appearance and Settings or add a Compiz, AWN. gDesklets or some such thing, but those are not really needed, in Main Menu or Appearance  or gconf it can be done easily.
[06:35] <Ellement> niku: ok thanks
[06:35] <SReject> Am trying to "burn" a bootable iso to a usb flash drive(From winSP pro sp3) and am getting errors. What i've done: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=H09UPmVa
[06:35] <red2kic> monokrome: Try http://pastebin.com/gm3zxNps
[06:35] <niku> monokrome, ah, I assumed that's what you were doing - in that case, not sure
[06:36] <niku> hbsmiley7, ok - this is an odd one on linux, but try rebooting
[06:36] <niku> hbsmiley7, w/o the xorg.conf x should startup and build a failsafe xorg.conf
[06:37] <Vigo> !usb | SReject
[06:37] <monokrome> red2kic: That looks like it worked
[06:37] <monokrome> We'll see where a reboot goes.
[06:37] <monokrome> Thanks.
[06:37] <red2kic> monokrome: Excellent. *crackles*
[06:37] <hbsmiley7> niku: i doubt it will work, but i value your opinion over my own so here it goes, haha
[06:38] <Ellement> aschmitz: installed successfully. thanks for all your help
[06:39] <niku> hbsmiley7, its sort of a last-ditcher. If that doesn't work, you should find the nvidia packages and do an apt-get purge whatever_the_nvidia_package_is ; then an apt-get install to re-install it
[06:39] <aschmitz> Ellement: Sounds great. Glad I could help. Have a good time with your new installation!
[06:39] <hbsmiley7> niku: well i'll be damned
[06:40] <niku> hbsmiley7, ;)
[06:40] <Vigo> Ok, two .ISOs burned, Minimal and Alternate, before I delve into this, any errors or problems with two or three Grub Distros on one HDD?
[06:40] <hbsmiley7> niku: it worked, surprisingly, i'll be sure to check out what it did to the xorg. you have no idea how long i have been not using ubuntu because every time i tried i could never figure out the errors i had after install the nvidia drivers
[06:41] <red2kic> Vigo: Expect problems is all I have to say. Nothing ever go the way you like it.
[06:41] <hbsmiley7> niku: you are a gentlemen and a scholar
[06:41] <niku> hbsmiley7, haha. No worries. Rebooting does two things: it re-loads all the kernel modules (fixes one of the potential problems) and rebuilds the config file (other major potential problem)
[06:41] <Ellement> aschmitz: thanks
[06:42] <niku> hbsmiley7, glad to have helped.  if you want a line by line comparison, do a diff xorg.conf xorg.conf.back
[06:42] <Vigo> red2kic: That is why Backups are made on a rotating  and incremental basis.
[06:42] <monokrome> Nope, red2kic. Doesn't work.
[06:43] <red2kic> monokrome: What ISO is it anyway? Bootable ISO?
[06:43] <monokrome> iBoot
[06:43] <monokrome> iBoot/nVidia for installing OS X on a PC
[06:44] <mmfb> What command can you use to locate a file through terminal?
[06:44] <red2kic> mmfb: locate zomg.txt
[06:44] <Duskin> i need help with making my wireless work
[06:44] <Duskin> no networks show up in the list
[06:44] <Vigo> hbsmiley7: Please post any fixes or resolutions on the Ubuntu Forums so that others may use them, and thank you niku.
[06:44] <red2kic> monokrome: Check this out.
[06:44] <hbsmiley7> niku: yeah, i'm looking at it now. it does what it should have done initially, i just have no idea how this time it worked rather than any other time, considering restarting was a common time when i thought i figured it out but only had my dreams torn apart when it errored again
[06:44] <red2kic> !burning | monokrome
[06:45] <monokrome> red2kic: Those burn CDs
[06:45] <hbsmiley7> niku and vigo: i wish i could tell you step by step what i did, but it just worked upon restarting, niku is a god
[06:45] <Duskin> is there a room for powerpc users?
[06:45] <mmfb> How do you know what to call the file when you input the command "locate file.run" ?
[06:46] <niku> mmfb, are you trying to find a specific file, or contents in a file?
[06:46] <Vigo> hbsmiley7: Okee dokee, thank you, it may still be in the .logs.....
[06:46] <red2kic> monokrome: Well, Those burns ISO.
[06:46] <mmfb> Yes. I'm trying to locate a folder. I'm not sure what the folder would exactly be called.
[06:46] <monokrome> red2kic: Specifically to CDs :(
[06:47] <red2kic> monokrome: Oh you want USB or something?
[06:47] <monokrome> Yes, I have a USB flash drive that I need to burn iBoot to
[06:47] <mmfb> The file is Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
[06:47] <amr> hello all
[06:47] <hbsmiley7> vigo: ah, well where would i be able to find any logs, i'll be willing to post anything that is relevant
[06:47] <monokrome> I don't have any blank DVDs.
[06:47] <red2kic> mmfb: "sudo updatedb && locate enemy" -- Try that
[06:48] <amr> any one guys have experience over pptp issues
[06:48] <niku> mmfb, Ok, I doubt that's the name of the actual file, but locate, or find, will match parts of a file name. I'd do something like "find / -name '*olfen*' 2>/dev/null"
[06:48] <monokrome> red2kic: That script you showed me did put the files on the disc, but it's not bootable.
[06:48] <niku> but locate may be nicer.
[06:49] <mmfb> red2kic: That command worked for me, thanks.
[06:49] <greenjon> niku: can you give an example for using locate? :D
[06:49] <red2kic> mmfb: Np.
[06:49] <amr> i have weird issue am unable to trace pptp client keep discounting within 120 sec of connection or less
[06:49] <red2kic> monokrome: I wonder if gparted can make it bootable. I'm looking at gparted at the moment.
[06:50] <greenjon> niku: i'm still pretty at some things and using that is one of them
[06:50] <greenjon> *still pretty new at
[06:50] <monokrome> red2kic: It wasn't recognized by fdisk
[06:50] <amr> any hints
[06:50] <red2kic> monokrome: I see. There are flags in gparted that you can toggle on to 'boot'
[06:50] <red2kic> monokrome: Take it out and plug it in aain.
[06:51] <niku> locate works red2kic mentioned. basically just "locate file_you_are_looking_for"
[06:51] <greenjon> can you use an asterisk as a wildcard?
[06:52] <Duskin> why does it say my account password is expired everytime i try to type in my password
[06:52] <greenjon> (i had actually missed the example red2kic gave until after i asked for an example lol)
[06:52] <red2kic> greenjon: Don't use asterisk. Just use... okay. You got it.
[06:52] <holmser_> what packages do I need to install to get a cloud set up on my server?
[06:52] <amr> vpn pptp client keep discounting any hints
[06:53] <monokrome> red2kic: gparted thinks it's unallocated.
[06:53] <greenjon> niku, red2kic: thanks guys :)
[06:54] <monokrome> red2kic: But it's mounted and files on it are readable
[06:54] <Vigo> hbsmiley7: Rather vague, but is a start: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/rsyslogd.8.html
[06:54] <banker247> how do i remove all access read write permisions of an entire directory
[06:54] <paulo> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -atip => Error trying to open /dev/cdrom exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. => WTF?
[06:55] <amr> i have vpn pptp client issue keep discounting any hints
[06:55] <hbsmiley7> vigo: thanks
[06:55] <red2kic> monokrome: Try and unmount it (right-click) and reload gparted. After that, I'll be... in same boat with you.
[06:56] <martadinata> hello, i wanna ask...
[06:56] <amr> holmser what you using as your virtual  backend
[06:56] <Vigo> hbsmiley7: You are welcome. There is also a Graphical Log Viewer in most Ubuntu Desktops.
[06:56] <red2kic> !permissions | banker247
[06:57] <martadinata> i have an usb modem and get connect with it, but how do you make a call or send a message with it?
[06:57] <Vigo> I am off to do multi installs now, I Thank you all kindly and hope to return soon, or in 47mins....
[06:58] <amr> pptp vpn client keep discounting any clue?
[06:58] <abhijain> hello
[06:59] <aLemmer> Any way to add a Vista/7 like search field in the applications menu via Gnome?
[06:59] <aLemmer> I like Gnome and the interface, but I'd like to have that feature.
[06:59] <giskard2> i need help getting a tv tuner card to work, Smart TV CL-P06, here's my lspci and dmesg http://pastebin.org/325751
[06:59] <red2kic> aLemmer: I like Gnome-Do.  Give it a try.
[07:00] <banker247> when a directroy after doing ls -l vtigercrm shows user | root does that mean only user and root have access?
[07:01] <red2kic> aLemmer: Use Mini for Selected Theme -- Background Color = #333333 -- That's how I have it set up. There are bunch of useful plugins like tinyurl and imageupload :)
[07:01] <red2kic> banker247: First are 'user' and second are 'group'
[07:02] <banker247> red2kic so when i do the ls -l dirname .. and i see www-data and then root next to it
[07:02] <amr> martadinata http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3656717 not sure if this can help
[07:03] <banker247> red2kic whats that mean exactly? because in my home folder when i do it.. i get user user side by side.. user being my name
[07:03] <red2kic> banker247: I see root root under /var/www/.
[07:03] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:04] <banker247> red2kic on ur system?
[07:04] <ShapeShifter499> I'm trying to set up a Cannon Pixma iP2600 printer and I have  almost no clue what to do
[07:04] <banker247> red2kic i see www-data root
[07:04] <aLemmer> Yes, but I couldn't integrate Gnome-Do into the desktop, eh?
[07:05] <red2kic> banker247: The first one is for ownership. Who actually own/create-it -- The second one are for groups -- ie what groups is it under. If it's under root -- then that's fine. You don't want to have access to sensitive stuffs.
[07:05] <red2kic> aLemmer: You can if you use Gnome-Do Docky, personally, I just trigger (START + SPACEBAR) when I need it.
[07:05] <ShapeShifter499> my computer can detect what kind of printer it is but can't find the driver
[07:05] <Ellement> niku: for multiple user remote connections, your meant to go to If you go into the System, Administration, Login Window, then there is a tab for remote, but i cant see such remote tabe in 10.04??? anyone know?
[07:05] <red2kic> aLemmer: Super Key. (ie winblow flagkey)
[07:06] <ShapeShifter499> where would I get a PPD driver file?
[07:06] <red2kic> ShapeShifter499: From search engines.
[07:06] <ShapeShifter499> ooh?
[07:06] <ShapeShifter499> D=
[07:07] <red2kic> ShapeShifter499: Check your print manufacturer for support/download (drivers)
[07:07] <banker247> red2kic whats it mean when the file is highlighted bright green in terminal?
[07:07] <ShapeShifter499> red2kic: ok
[07:07] <giskard2> i need help getting a tv tuner card to work, Smart TV CL-P06, here's my lspci and dmesg http://pastebin.org/325751
[07:08] <red2kic> banker247: Good question. :O
[07:08] <prince_jammys> banker247: depends on your setup. probably that the file is executable
[07:09] <linux> tvtime
[07:09] <banker247> is root root good?
[07:10] <Kardos> can i burn the 698mb ubuntu cd onto a blank dvd?
[07:10] <ShapeShifter499> red2kic: yay there is a new cannon linux repo
[07:11] <red2kic> ShapeShifter499: ;3
[07:12] <aLemmer> How can I use the super key for a hotkey via Gnome's "Keyboard Shortcuts"?
[07:14] <red2kic> aLemmer: Super Key can't be a hotkey. It's a modifier like SHIFT, ALT, or CTRL. You can't use them along.
[07:14] <red2kic> alone*
[07:15] <aLemmer> That's kinda "meh".
[07:16] <red2kic> aLemmer: It is no different than SUPER + E to bring up Explorer.exe in Windows. :)
[07:16] <aLemmer> Well in Windows you can bring up the application menu with the super key.
[07:16] <aLemmer> Which I found handy.
[07:17] <banker247> prince_jammys if i changed /var/www to root:www-data    why can i still browse it as user?
[07:17] <prince_jammys> banker247: ls -ld /var/www
[07:17] <markcl> lftp does not seem to work. it doesnt even ask me for username or password when i connect to my ftp server.
[07:17] <banker247> drwxrwxrwx 3 root www-data 4096 2010-06-11 19:15 /var/www
[07:17] <prince_jammys> banker247: bad
[07:17] <banker247> prince_jammys translation? :)
[07:17] <prince_jammys> banker247: it is world-writable, world-everything. no good
[07:18] <banker247> prince_jammys ya thats what i'm trying to learn.. i just want my root and apache to be able to write
[07:18] <prince_jammys> banker247: did you do some kind of recursive chmod command?
[07:18] <banker247> yes
[07:18] <banker247> during installation
[07:18] <prince_jammys> find whoever advised you to do that, and smack 'em
[07:19] <banker247> i was having problems installing my CRM databases
[07:19] <banker247> and i'm still learning.
[07:19] <dillard> hey im running ubuntu 10.04 and i made a dock delted vbottom dock now i have decided id rather just have the panel anyone now how i can fix the issue when i open stuff i go to minimize it it disappears and wont sit on that panel
[07:19] <aLemmer> Anyone know where I can change the keybinding for showing previews of windows with SUPER + A?
[07:19] <prince_jammys> banker247: so every single file inside there is rwxrwxrwx ?
[07:19] <aLemmer> Gnome/Ubuntu/Compiz.
[07:19] <banker247> finally got everything up and functioning though
[07:19] <banker247> there is no sensitive info there but i'm just saying.. for future
[07:19] <red2kic> aLemmer: There are Compiz Shortcuts you can assign to. Install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:19] <banker247> so whats the rwxrwxrwx mean?
[07:19] <ramukmar> Hi, anyone know how I can somehow reset the notification applet to show 'set up mail' again? i tried evolution by adding an account, but removed it now. Want to go back to the earlier setting.
[07:20] <aLemmer> I have it, where's it under?
[07:20] <prince_jammys> !permissions | banker247
[07:20] <aLemmer> Just "commands"?
[07:20] <aLemmer> Found it.
[07:20] <banker247> ok
[07:20] <prince_jammys> banker247: read that. it's not too complex, but too involved too explain here.
[07:21] <banker247> gotcha.. so how to change back so www-data can control it only
[07:21] <prince_jammys> the details are complex, but the basics (e.g. your question) are not.
[07:21] <prince_jammys> banker247: chmod -R o-w   # at least
[07:22] <banker247> # at least
[07:22] <banker247> ?
[07:22] <prince_jammys> this will make so at least the files aren't writable by everybody
[07:23] <prince_jammys> banker247: '# at least' is not part of the command, just a comment of mine.
[07:23] <red2kic> prince_jammys: You're very kind to include # in case he ran that. :)
[07:23] <banker247> now its drwxrwxr
[07:23] <prince_jammys> well, there's no filename in the command :)
[07:23] <banker247> i put /www
[07:24] <prince_jammys> banker247: read that URL so this stuff isn't gibberish
[07:24] <banker247> yea i'm browsing thorugh it
[07:25] <ramukmar> Hi, anyone know how I can reset the notification applet to show 'set up mail' again? i tried evolution by adding an account, but removed it now. Want to go back to the earlier setting.
[07:26] <banker247> uh oh user@host:/home/user$ sudo chmod -R / home/john/Desktop/tempfiles.. does this mean he wiped his comp?
[07:26] <prince_jammys> that space is making me cringe.
[07:27] <banker247> what would i tdo?
[07:27] <banker247> lock you out of the whole system?
[07:27] <prince_jammys> hopefully nothing, because '/' is not a permission mode
[07:27] <gemini> qq all )
[07:28] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: do you have pointer to this repo?
[07:28] <banker247> ok so now my www. has drwxrwxr-x
[07:28] <prince_jammys> consider that chmod -R  can be a very quick way to trash a system. read the URL before you mess with this, and use the command super-carefully.
[07:28] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: ya
[07:29] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: link pls
[07:29] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: one sec
[07:29] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: here---->  http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon
[07:29] <banker247> i gues my question is why is rwxrwxrwx 3 times?
[07:30] <prince_jammys> banker247: guess where the answer lies :)
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: cannon and epson drivers for debian/ubuntu
[07:31] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: it worked?
[07:31] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: if your printer is not listed there you can go here--> http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/
[07:31] <banker247> ahh owner group other
[07:31] <alabd> Good day all , system internet connection type is ADSL , humble used PPPOECONF to create connection , now how to make another adsl connection and how to submit bandwitch of this 2 adsl connection ?
[07:31] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: haven't tested yet, waiting for d-load
[07:31] <banker247> so what we did.. is made it so...
[07:31] <banker247> the owner and group and rwx
[07:31] <banker247> and some random peoples can only read
[07:31] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: what is your printer?
[07:32] <banker247> and execute
[07:32] <prince_jammys> banker247: which in the case of a directory, mean they can 'cd' into it.
[07:32] <banker247> so.. owner root can rwx group www-data can rwx... otehr people can r-x
[07:32] <banker247> and they can execute files but they can't modify anything
[07:32] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: i was just looking into your problems earlier (something to do) and was curious where you found a repo and if you can now print? my research also led me to http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/ for drivers.
[07:33] <i__> does terminator terminal emulator have an irc channel?
[07:33] <Ellement> can anyone help me with remote connection from mac to ubuntu over a lan. i want to able to login to multiple user accounts?
[07:33] <banker247> prince_jammys whats a t
[07:33] <banker247> mena?
[07:34] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: oh ...
[07:34] <prince_jammys> banker247: 'sticky'
[07:34] <prince_jammys> i__: yes
[07:34] <bricky> hey ppl
[07:34] <i__> prince_jammys: which one is it?
[07:34] <prince_jammys> i__: you get one guess
[07:35] <i__> prince_jammys: lol, i think irssi windows was on another window when i tried the obvious one, thanks
[07:35] <prince_jammys> welcome
[07:36] <banker247> prince_jammys so its really important to note what "others" can do right.. and technially they shoulnd't be able to do anyting
[07:36] <prince_jammys> banker247: they usually shouldn't be able to write
[07:36] <Botanic> hey i just installed ubuntu alternite on a old laptop and the system shows the ubuntu logo, then goes black. Any ideas?
[07:36] <banker247> gotcha.. still dont get what the t menas
[07:36] <banker247> or even the d
[07:37] <prince_jammys> banker247: usually, write privileges go to the owner, and maybe to the group. don't worry about 't' for now.
[07:37] <prince_jammys> learn the other stuff first
[07:37] <prince_jammys> banker247: learn 's', 't', once you grasped the basic stuff
[07:38] <banker247> hmm i dunno why but.. i have a crash dir in my /var
[07:38] <prince_jammys> that's fine
[07:38] <banker247> and its drwxrwxrwt
[07:38] <prince_jammys> !fsh
[07:39] <banker247> thats not good i take it?
[07:39] <kiamo> When I try to boot my windows partition from grub, it says it cannot find the device
[07:39] <kiamo> its looking at hd1'1  and my windows partition is sda1.  So that is fine right?
[07:39] <prince_jammys> !fhs
[07:40] <banker247> prince_jammys is it wise to chmod your entire file system and wipe out all "other" privledges?
[07:40] <prince_jammys> banker247: hell no
[07:40] <banker247> prince_jammys why would you want "other" to have ability to do anything?
[07:41] <banker247> it seems to me that the "other" group isn't really necessary
[07:41] <prince_jammys> banker247: take a file like /usr/bin/gnome-terminal. if 'other' can't read it, YOU can't read it
[07:42] <prince_jammys> banker247: you wouldn't be able to run programs you don't own
[07:42] <banker247> prince_jammys unless I'm root right?
[07:42] <prince_jammys> right
[07:42] <banker247> or..
[07:42] <banker247> i assign the file to root:username?
[07:42] <prince_jammys> no, you leave it alone :)
[07:43] <unop> banker247, too many usernames to deal with that way.
[07:43] <prince_jammys> seriously, you can cause *major* damage this way. apply permissions to select files you need to control.
[07:44] <banker247> still doesn't explain why my var/crash/ has drwxrwxrwt
[07:44] <banker247> is it because some "other" program can write a log to it if need be?
[07:44] <prince_jammys> means that whoever owns the file is the only one who can delete it
[07:44] <prince_jammys> banker247: yes
[07:45] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - i never hear u anymore ?
[07:46] <alabd> Good day all , system internet connection type is ADSL , humble used PPPOECONF to create connection , now how to make another adsl connection and how to submit bandwitch of this 2 adsl connection ??
[07:46] <banker247> ok so for my server my /www/var/
[07:47] <banker247> my www-data has to be able to read&write
[07:47] <banker247> d-wx-wx--x
[07:47] <banker247> so currently it seems it cannot
[07:47] <prince_jammys> rwxr-xr-x should do.
[07:47] <prince_jammys> plain html files need not be executable
[07:50]  * red2kic sets mode -j #ubuntu 5:10
[07:51] <bricky> whats the app to extract inf from .exe file? starts with a C
[07:52] <red2kic> bricky: cabextract? I guess.
[07:52] <giskard2> i need help getting a tv tuner card to work, Smart TV CL-P06, here's my lspci and dmesg http://pastebin.org/325751
[07:52] <bricky> red2kic: ty
[07:52] <bricky> :)
[07:52] <banker247> prince_jammys so is it ok to have rwxrwx--x for the www dir?
[07:53] <prince_jammys> banker247: --x isn't too useful
[07:53] <prince_jammys> others can cd there, but can't view the contents :)
[07:53] <banker247> d-wx-wx--x
[07:53] <rww> but can view the contents of subdirectories that are o+r
[07:54] <banker247> well its a CRM software i'm running so
[07:54] <banker247> www-data has to be able to change and delete things
[07:54] <alabd> How  to create second pppoe connection ?
[07:55] <charles_> salutations a vous
[07:55] <rww> banker247: rwxrwxr-x (775) is probably best.
[07:56] <banker247> ok
[07:56] <banker247> so chmod -R /var/www?
[07:56] <rww> (assuming that www-data:www-data owns your CMS files
[07:56] <rww> banker247: yes
[07:56] <prince_jammys> banker247: preferably only for directories.
[07:56] <banker247> right
[07:56] <rww> oh, yeah, huh
[07:56] <prince_jammys> you don't need a bunch of executable html files
[07:57] <banker247> so i'm going to do chmod 775 -R /var/www/vtigercrm
[07:57] <banker247> correct?
[07:57] <ManDay> Is SAGE not in the repositories?
[07:57] <ManDay> What Numerical Package do you use?
[07:57] <Ranjan> Hello every body I am having an issue wile installing goldendict from respo I am getting "This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time." as error msg so can any body can help in installing it on ubuntu 10.04
[07:58] <prince_jammys> banker247: capital X
[07:59] <banker247> prince_jammys X?
[07:59] <prince_jammys> yes
[07:59] <banker247> chmod -R /var/www/vtigercrm
[07:59] <Slart> ManDay: I don't think so, I use matlab and sometimes octave
[07:59] <banker247> chmod 775 -R /var/www/vtigercrm
[08:00] <Ranjan> Hello every body I am having an issue wile installing goldendict from respo I am getting "This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time." as error msg so can any body can help in installing it on ubuntu 10.04  Any help would be of great help .. Thanks in advance
[08:00] <Slart> ManDay: for symbolic stuff I use maple.. I haven't really found anything free that I like
[08:00] <ManDay> Slart, proprietary software makes me vomit
[08:00] <ManDay> Slart, scilab, maxima, scipy/sage they are all great
[08:01] <ManDay> i dont have any expierence with symbolic things tho
[08:01] <Slart> ManDay: mm.. scilab has it's quirks.. scipy is on my list of stuff to try though
[08:01] <ManDay> what problems do you have with scilab?
[08:02] <Slart> ManDay: I can't really remember at the moment.. I think I had some installation problems and then there was something else that bothered me.. might have been some extra packages that weren't available.. matlab, proprietary or not, comes with lots and lots of toys =)
[08:02] <banker247> prince_jammys i'm not using X.. using -R
[08:03] <Taev> Im trying to install gnome, ive tried both Synaptic and apt-get I keep getting "Depends swfdec-mozilla but is not going to be installed" when I install that package manually it tells me "Depends Epiphany-something but is not going to be installed" when I manually install that package, it removes swfdec-mozilla
[08:03] <Taev> its really ticking me off because im trying to compile screem but I don't have the gnome libraries needed for it.
[08:03] <Taev> is there a way I can force the install?
[08:04] <ManDay> Slart, if I were you I'd franky give it another try. I've been using scilab like forever, it has gone through many major improvements and is very good to my opinion. the ponly problem that i might have with it is that it really has no symbolic powers whatsoever - but it offers interfaces to many other apps which can do that for you if you really need it
[08:05] <ManDay> Slart, don't get me wrong but I think if you know your arsenal the open software realm offers you more tools in sum than matlab and maple do together. you will have to pick them manually but alltogether if you know the right packages open can do anything that propritary can (unless you have really VERY specific needs)
[08:06] <ManDay> how come that the sage webpage has a dedicated 10.4 ubuntu package but sage is not packed in the repos?
[08:06] <rww> Taev: The gnome-meta packages don't get much love in Ubuntu. That breakage was a known bug; I generally recommend installing gnome-desktop-environment instead and installing any extra packages you want on top of that manually.
[08:06] <banker247> prince_jammys so the key here is not to have "other" be able to write files
[08:07] <prince_jammys> banker247: yes, that's important.
[08:07] <rww> Taev: (generally, Ubuntu people go with ubuntu-desktop rather than the Gnome packages)
[08:07] <banker247> prince_jammys because then people can just run around deleting stuff right
[08:07] <ManDay> Slart, besides if you are familar with matlab scilab is pretty close and, if im not wrong about matlab, is far ahead of the latter for the many interfaces it has
[08:07] <prince_jammys> banker247: yes
[08:07] <prince_jammys> banker247: even by accident
[08:08] <Taev> well i need the libraries to install screem
[08:08] <Taev> i can't believe they didn't include screem or quanta in ubuntu 10
[08:08] <Taev> those were the only 2 good HTML editors available
[08:08] <Slart> ManDay: if the choice was between open source only or proprietary stuff only I would go open source all the way.. but if I have to chose from open source or (open source and proprietary) the later has more features etc etc..
[08:08] <prince_jammys> banker247: if a non-admin user tries to say, write to a file like /etc/passwd (by some accidental command), it fails.
[08:08] <Taev> Im really not happy that they are going to stop supporting 8.04
[08:08] <red2kic> !html is old.
[08:08] <rww> Taev: the "gnome" package likely wouldn't install development headers anyway. If you tell me which library it's complaining about missing, I can point you to a specific package.
[08:08]  * bleah hy
[08:09] <Taev> my server runs on 8.04, and the upgrade option has broken numerous systems I've tried it on.
[08:09] <red2kic> Wait? Did I just did a factoid request? o.O
[08:09] <rww> red2kic: yes
[08:09] <Slart> ManDay: but this is getting offtopic.. and I feel the need for some breakfast.. I'll be back later
[08:09] <red2kic> rww: Heh. That was unintentional.
[08:09] <Appl6> slart: ManDay: Your best bet is Sage.
[08:10] <rww> Taev: Ubuntu Server 8.04 is supported for five years, so until 2013...
[08:11] <rww> (Desktop is until next April)
[08:11] <Taev> rather than post them all
[08:11] <Taev> i took a screenshot
[08:11] <Taev> http://djs.homelinux.com/images/misc/screenshot.png
[08:11] <ManDay> enjoy it Slart
[08:11] <red2kic> Taev: You tried Bluefish + KompoZer?
[08:12] <Taev> No. I like Screem
[08:12] <banker247> prince_jammys technically you can't take nay privlidges away from root os  having rwxrwx for a file owned by root:root is reduntant?
[08:12] <ManDay> Appl6, after taking a brief look at maxima and being a yet-to-learn-fan of python i agree that sage looks promising
[08:12] <Taev> its saying I don't have package Libgnome-menu2
[08:13] <Taev> but when i search in synaptic
[08:13] <Taev> its installed
[08:13] <ManDay> I just wonder why sage is not the repositiores
[08:13] <bricky> anybody want to help with wifi card issues
[08:13] <thune3> Taev: looks like quanta is in still available in universe repository, for 10.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/quanta
[08:13] <bricky> my back is hurting from my short ethernet cable,
[08:13] <aLemmer> Anyone know of some flat monochrome icons for Gnome? I'm having troubles sifting through Gnome-Look.
[08:14] <Appl6> ManDay: Sage includes maxima, and can call anything from maxima.  It is a strict superset.  You also mentioned scipy as a symbolic mathematics package, which is wrong.
[08:14] <prince_jammys> banker247: root can be told that a file isn't executable, though of course can then change permissions.
[08:14] <rww> Taev: is there a package ending in -dev with a similar name? That's probably what it actually wants.
[08:15] <ManDay> i did not mention scipy as being symbolic Appl6 - this must be a misunderstanding
[08:16] <taso5> my ubuntu 10.04 64 bit doesn't star regularly some times a black screen to sing in opens...
[08:16] <taso5> can you help me?
[08:16] <Taev> well it says I need libgnome-2.0
[08:16] <Taev> i have libgnome-2.0 installed
[08:16] <rww> ManDay: sagemath was apparently removed from Ubuntu because it depends on python 2.5.
[08:17] <rww> ManDay: per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pychecker/+bug/516932
[08:17] <Botanic> what is the xorg config command on ubuntu?
[08:17] <Taev> its telling me i don't have these packages installed
[08:17] <Taev> but synaptic says i do
[08:17] <ManDay> rww, are you impyling that it cannot be run on 2.6?
[08:18] <ManDay> rww, I thought SAGE included a bundled version of python
[08:18] <thune3> Taev: screem was dropped for lucid "(From Debian) RoQA; inactive maintainer, dead upstream, buggy, depends on deprecated libraries" in ref. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/screem/0.16.1-4.2ubuntu1
[08:18] <rww> ManDay: no, I'm implying that the package in Ubuntu and Debian at the time was set to use 2.5
[08:18] <rww> ManDay: if it did, that would have been patched out to make it use the system python.
[08:19] <Taev> well regardless
[08:19] <Guest3211> hey everyone, I'm having problems installing google gadgets on 9.10, I cant find any .debs for it, nothing conclusive is on google, and on the software center it's telling me that it's not available in current data. I checked the software sources, and I have multiverse and universe checked, but nothing... any  ideas?
[08:19] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[08:19] <Taev> when i try and compile its telling me I need those packages
[08:19] <Taev> but I have those packages installed
[08:19] <rww> Taev: as I've said, it probably needs a package with a similar name with -dev on the end, not the package it's listing
[08:20] <Taev> i just installed all the -dev and dbg packages
[08:20] <Taev> nothing
[08:20] <ManDay> rww, so there is actually no reason for it not being in the repos right *now*, do I get this right?
[08:20] <Taev> same thing
[08:20]  * Flyswatter smacks down Flyzoola 
[08:20] <denis12345> Hi. When I extract a .rar file nothing inside gets extracted. What's a tool for extracting .rar that works?
[08:20] <ShapeShifter499> an package is depending on another but the system apparently calls this needed package by another name, what do I do?
[08:20] <red2kic> denis12345: Install rar unrar
[08:20] <rww> ManDay: The version in Debian appears to /still/ require python2.5, which means either the Debian maintainer doesn't care enough to fix it or it needs 2.5. Ubuntu does not ship Python 2.5.
[08:20] <Taev> libgtkhtml-2.0 not found, but libgtkhtml, libgtkhtml-dev, and libgtkhtml-dbg are installed
[08:20] <ShapeShifter499> force install the package??
[08:21] <Flyzoola> red2kick haha I know, I put a nickname when I added this account to my pidgin but it just didn't register
[08:21] <denis12345> red2kic: ok found em. Will give it a shot thanks
[08:21] <ManDay> rww, is Py 2.6 not backwards compatible to 2.5 o_O ?
[08:21] <Taev> ok fine can some one name a good HTML Editor
[08:21] <Taev> for Lucid
[08:21] <denis12345> red2kic: worked. Thanks!!
[08:22] <red2kic> denis12345: Great. :)
[08:22] <ManDay> rww, I'm just judging from the sage website where they offer an ubuntu 10.4 LTS packed package
[08:22] <thune3> Taev: does source have ./configure script ? to tell you if it found what it needed
[08:23] <Taev> well i guess ill just use bluefish
[08:23] <red2kic> Taev: Bluefish? Geany.
[08:23] <rww> ManDay: as far as I can see, those are .tar.gz files, not actual packages.
[08:23] <Taev> to be honest I am really not feeling that great about Lucid, nor am I happy about being forced to upgrade my server from 8.04 or stop receiving updates.
[08:23] <`boz> hi all i have just installed ubuntu 9.04 on an asus laptop, all seems well however unable to play a standard dvd
[08:24] <taso5> my ubuntu 10.04 64 bit doesn't star regularly some times a black screen to sing in opens,what should i do to fix it?
[08:24] <rww> Taev: Server 8.04 is supported until 2013. If five years isn't a long enough support period for you, you're using the wrong distro.
[08:24] <Flyzoola> I'm having problems installing google gadgets on 9.10, I cant find any .debs for it, nothing conclusive is on google, and on the software center it's telling me that it's not available in current data. I checked the software sources, and I have multiverse and universe checked, but nothing... any  ideas?
[08:24] <rww> Taev: I'm not sure how a server is relevent to a HTML editor anyway, since Ubuntu Server isn't GUI-based, but still.
[08:24] <Taev> yeah well that still doesn't solve my dilema. the "upgrade operating system" feature stinks
[08:25] <Taev> I've hosed about 5 installs trying it
[08:25] <ManDay> rww, I've just downloaded the 10.4 one - I asumme it has an installer and will simply install like any other binary - its not far from that to become a package - what else makes up a real package?
[08:25] <Taev> as a test before I did it with my server
[08:25] <red2kic> rww: The ideal is that the servers aren't GUI-based but I bet you some of the servers are GUI-based. :O
[08:25] <Taev> i really don't want to reconfigure apache, MySQL databases, and everything else on my server
[08:25] <rww> ManDay: the ability to uninstall it, conformance to Ubuntu policy, updates, etc.
[08:26] <klips_85> hi all!!
[08:26] <ManDay> rww, ok, thanks
[08:26] <rww> red2kic: Ubuntu Server (which s/he said s/he's using) + GUI = not Ubuntu Server. There's a list of packages covered by Server support lengths, they're not GUI.
[08:26] <Taev> I use plain old 8.04 as my web server and other stuff
[08:26] <Appl6> ManDay: Sage provides precompiled binaries for certain distributions; I think that's what you downloaded.
[08:26] <Taev> just because Im serving stuff doesn't mean I don't want a GUI to do other stuff
[08:26] <Taev> I'm chatting on my server right now.
[08:26] <Jordan_U> Taev: 8.04 server will be supported untill 2013.
[08:27] <rww> Jordan_U: the GUI packages s/he's apparently installed on it aren't.
[08:27] <Taev> yeah but what Im saying is I'm still between a rock and a hard place because the 5 test systems I've tried the automated "upgrade" option has hosed them all
[08:27] <Zenon777> Hello. I use kubuntu, i have laptop on compal HEL80 and combination of Fn+F2 is not work, what can i do?.
[08:27] <rww> Taev: As you keep saying. It might be a good idea to diagnose that problem at some point.
[08:27] <Taev> and I don't really want to reconfigure everything or encounter "this particular package isn't included in Lucid" so I have to find another package and configure everything else to work with it.
[08:27] <Kane_Hart> can a sh file script I guess just be as simple as adding command lines into it like cp file file2 next line cp back back2?
[08:28] <Taev> the problem is Ubuntu's upgrade option
[08:28] <red2kic> Kane_Hart: Sure. $1 $2 $3
[08:28] <ManDay> Appl6, Yes, **** its just a binary, no installer
[08:28] <Taev> I've tried it on 2 virtual machines, and on 3 different boxes
[08:28] <klips_85> adobe has present flash player 10.1 for linux. is it better to install the deb package from here : http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ or to copy the file from tar package to /home/mozilla/plug-in folder ?
[08:28] <Flyzoola> anyone..? I'm having problems installing google gadgets on 9.10, I cant find any .debs for it, nothing conclusive is on google, and on the software center it's telling me that it's not available in current data. I checked the software sources, and I have multiverse and universe checked, but nothing... any  ideas?
[08:28] <ManDay> thats annoying
[08:28] <Taev> 8.04 upgrade to Lucid failed everytime
[08:28] <rww> Kane_Hart: pretty much, yes. You'd want to put "#!/bin/bash" at the start and run "chmod +x scripthere.sh" if you want to run it directly.
[08:28] <Appl6> ManDay: Hey, that's a good thing.  It means you don't have to install it =).
[08:28] <red2kic> !abs | Kane_Hart
[08:29] <`boz> when i when i type the following command sudo/usr/libdvdread/./install-css.sh
[08:29] <rww> Taev: Considering that 8.04 to 10.04 upgrades were tested extensively by the QA team, that would count as a bug, which you should either file or provide logs from. We can't help you if you don't do either.
[08:29] <`boz> i get the response command not found
[08:29] <ManDay> Appl6, where do you suggest I should put all that stuff?
[08:29] <red2kic> `boz: sudo <SPACE> /usr/...
[08:29] <ManDay> ~/mysageinstallation ?
[08:29] <`boz> any help appreciated
[08:29] <Taev> well next time I'll do that.
[08:29] <Taev> thanks for the suggestion.
[08:29] <Appl6> ManDay: I put mine in ~/sage and put a symlink in /usr/local/bin.
[08:29] <red2kic> `boz: Use tabs to complete path + filename
[08:29] <red2kic> !tab | `boz
[08:29] <Jordan_U> Taev: You can also catch some upgrade problems before hand with "do-release-upgrade --sandbox"
[08:29] <ManDay> Appl6, srsly?
[08:30] <Appl6> ManDay: Yes, why?
[08:30] <Taev> btw whose bright idea was it to move the close, enlarge, and minimize icons to the left side of program windows
[08:30] <Taev> instead of on the right where they've been on every O.S. for the last 20 years
[08:30] <rww> Taev: Mark Shuttleworth's
[08:30] <red2kic> !controls | Taev
[08:30] <`boz> done the space ... no difference
[08:30] <makdin> w all
[08:30] <ManDay> Appl6, because in my ~there are movies, music, documents and (self written) programs - no huge program packages!
[08:30] <Flyzoola> seriously..? nobody know?
[08:30] <makdin> evening
[08:30] <klips_85> klips_85: adobe has present flash player 10.1 for linux. is it better to install the deb package from here : http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ or to copy the file from tar package to /home/mozilla/plug-in folder ?
[08:30] <Taev> "well hell lets just move this for no reason, even though everyone in the world is used to finding them on the right"
[08:30] <Taev> something like that?
[08:31] <ManDay> I'd rather rcp merge the stuff from the package in my /usr but then i wouldnt know how to get it out of there
[08:31] <bbryant> If the ubunt cd isn't booting, and all I see as the laptop starts is an image of a computer chip being equated to a guy inscribed in a circle....
[08:31] <bbryant> Would that be a problem with a trusted computing module or something?
[08:31] <bazhang> Flyzoola, google-gadgets-gtk?
[08:31] <Appl6> ManDay: You could put it under Documents.  Or you could put it under ~/Programs or ~/Math or whatever.  I might try the ~/Math some time and move stuff under it.
[08:31] <Taev> so whats the difference between Ubuntu Software Center, and Synaptic Package Manager?
[08:31] <bazhang> !info google-gadgets-gtk
[08:31] <rww> Taev: I believe the rationale was "we want to put stuff on the right-hand side, so we needed to free up the space".
[08:31] <Taev> from what I gather they both seem to do the exact same thing
[08:31] <Taev> they just look different.
[08:31] <bbryant> Anyone know?
[08:31] <rww> Taev: Software Center is designed for non-technical users. Synaptic is not.
[08:31] <red2kic> Taev: You should learn to recognize that linux are different and recognize that not everything are same with other OSes. Acknowledge that. :)
[08:32] <`boz> the tab key will not auto complete the doc folder
[08:32] <Taev> ah
[08:32] <bazhang> Flyzoola, same in Karmic
[08:32] <CaptainTrek> Taev: Synaptic lists more things, Software Center lists general applications so its easier for non technical users
[08:32] <ManDay> Appl6, right, i dont like it but ill deal with it, thanks
[08:32] <Taev> but they don't have any plans of dumping Synaptic do they?
[08:32] <klips_85> klips_85: adobe has present flash player 10.1 for linux. is it better to install the deb package from here : http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ or to copy the file from tar package to /home/mozilla/plug-in folder ?
[08:32] <CaptainTrek> darn it rww, you beat me to it!
[08:32] <CaptainTrek> Taev: no they dont
[08:32] <CaptainTrek> Taev: not AFAIK
[08:32] <Taev> thank you jebus.
[08:32] <Appl6> ManDay: I don't see why it's an issue.  Regular packages have to install somewhere, and if you prefer that "somewhere", just put it there.
[08:32] <Taev> wow Tuxracer and Billiards actually works
[08:33] <`boz> still same respobse "command not found"
[08:33] <ManDay> Appl6, I prefer packages to install in /usr/bin
[08:33] <ManDay> not in ~
[08:33] <Flyzoola> bazhang yes, google-gadgets-gtk. I already I have universe turned on and nothing. I also tried to install from terminal and it tells me the package can't be found
[08:33] <Appl6> ManDay: OK, then move it to /usr/bin.
[08:33] <prince_jammys> ManDay: consider /usr/local/bin
[08:33] <rww> ManDay: files not managed by the package management system should be in /opt or /usr/local/bin
[08:33] <vipwoody> Hello people, I just installed 10.04 ubuntu on my old laptop, I'm getting: "Error: couldn't read file." and "Error: you ned to load the kernel first." Sorry but this is my first time I use linux, so I'm a n00b here, please explain in full details. Thanks a lot! :)
[08:34] <bazhang> Flyzoola, update your sources.list yet? please pastebin them for us to take a look
[08:34] <ManDay> prince_jammys, whats the diff between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ?
[08:34] <ManDay> (apart from being distinct dirs)
[08:34] <prince_jammys> ManDay: see rww's comment. For one, prevents mayhem should you ever install files by the same name through apt
[08:34] <Flyzoola> bazhang, I just installed Ubuntu last night. can you tell me how to update the source list?
[08:35] <bbryant> If the ubunt cd isn't booting, and all I see as the laptop starts is an image of a computer chip being equated to a guy inscribed in a circle....
[08:35] <rww> ManDay: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLOCALLOCALHIERARCHY
[08:35] <bbryant> Would that be a problem with a trusted computing module or something?
[08:35] <ManDay> ah, sorry missed rww's comment
[08:35] <bazhang> Flyzoola, sudo apt-get update , followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:35] <prince_jammys> ManDay: second, reminds you of the progs you manually installed, as /usr/local/bin is otherwise empty.
[08:35] <rww> /opt is probably a better choice, to be honest
[08:35] <ManDay> ok good idea, ill create a sage directory there and put all the stuff in - thanks!
[08:36] <Flyzoola> bazhang, thanks. when this is done I'll report back :D
[08:36] <ManDay> why is opt better?
[08:36] <ManDay> /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/sbin /opt /bin/ /sbin  i hate it
[08:37] <rww> ManDay: /usr/local/bin is for binaries. If you have a whole lump of stuff, just throw it all in a directory in /opt
[08:37] <gpled> have a box that hangs after:   check battery state OK
[08:37] <gpled> any idea how to fix this?
[08:37] <ManDay> rww, point taken
[08:37] <bazhang> Flyzoola, when that is finished, then sudo apt-get install google-gadgets-gtk (assuming you are on gnome)
[08:37] <vipwoody> Hi people, Im encountering a problem with the booting of ubuntu on my old laptop, getting "you need to load the kernel first." please i need help, thanks
[08:37] <kazadagu> Hey all. I'm having major problems after doing an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04. I was getting all sorts of weird things happening and now I get a blank screen when I start my machine up. I really could do with some help.
[08:37] <Jordan_U> vipwoody: what version of ubuntu?
[08:38] <vipwoody> Jordan_U:  10.04
[08:38] <bazhang> kazadagu, tried starting in recovery mode yet?
[08:38] <gpled> kazadagu: does you screen say anything?
[08:38] <kazadagu> bazhang: I don't get an option to go into recovery mode
[08:39] <bazhang> kazadagu, this is 10.04?
[08:39] <kazadagu> gpled: black screen nothing shown
[08:39] <kazadagu> bazhang: yep
[08:39] <Jordan_U> kazadagu: Hold shift
[08:39] <bazhang> kazadagu, tried holding shift at boot to reach it?
[08:39] <gpled> kazadagu: if you hit ctrl + alt + f1 do you get anything?
[08:39] <kazadagu> bazhang: when you say "at boot" when do mean?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> gpled: No, he won't with that error.
[08:40] <bazhang> kazadagu, when you start up the computer
[08:40] <makdin> heloow every body ol
[08:40] <makdin> all about ask to ubuntu??
[08:40] <bazhang> makdin, yes
[08:40] <bazhang> makdin, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:40] <makdin> ohh yes
[08:40] <vipwoody> Jordan_U:  can you help? what do you think is the problem? getting: "Error: You need to load the kernel first."
[08:40] <Jordan_U> kazadagu: Start holding shift right after you power on, and untill you see the grub menu.
[08:41] <makdin> in here server
[08:41] <kazadagu> bazhang: nothing when I hold down shift and nothing with ctrl+alt+f1... I don't even see the grub menu
[08:41] <gpled> any ideas on getting passed:  check battery state OK ?
[08:41] <makdin> hellow bazhang
[08:42] <bazhang> kazadagu, have you ever successfully booted?
[08:42] <makdin> where u country ol
[08:42] <kazadagu> bazhang: more info: I have a macbookpro dual booting with refit. I choose ubuntu and then the screen goes blank
[08:42] <kazadagu> bazhang: yes
[08:42] <bazhang> makdin, chat is NOT here
[08:42] <makdin> then
[08:42] <makdin> where chatting
[08:42] <bazhang> makdin, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:42] <Xgates> does anyone know if the proprietary ati driver that Ubuntu has, if it's just the plain vanilla flgrx driver or if Ubuntu patches it?
[08:43] <vipwoody> Anyone familiar with the "Error: You need to load the kernel first." error when booting Ubuntu?
[08:43] <Xgates> I mean fglrx....
[08:43] <kazadagu> bazhang: I used it several times but it started strobing weird colors at me one time. Then it did this blank screen thing. Then I left it over night and it worked again in the morning. Now it's not even letting me boot into mac os.
[08:45] <Pyrrha> I just installed 10.04....
[08:45] <Pyrrha> OH MY GOSH!
[08:46] <Pyrrha> I am truely amazed...
[08:46] <bricky> lol
[08:46] <ShapeShifter499> xD
[08:46] <ShapeShifter499> um how do I fix a broken cashe?
[08:46] <aLemmer> Anyone know of a good mono/flat/no gloss/no gradient Gnome icon theme?
[08:46] <Pyrrha> A vast improvement on 9.10
[08:46] <bricky> anyone want to inststall my broadcom driver while I eat my fried chicken
[08:47] <bricky> lol :) jk jk
[08:47] <Pyrrha> No but I will take some of d chicken though.
[08:47] <bricky> Pyrrha: nice, I just got 10.04 too
[08:47] <Pyrrha> My first thought was... Sexy.
[08:47] <Xgates> does anyone know if the proprietary ati driver that Ubuntu has, if it's just the plain vanilla fglrx driver or if Ubuntu patches it?
[08:47] <Jordan_U> vipwoody: Can you pastebin your grub.cfg and the output of "ls /boot" ?
[08:47] <bricky> Pyrrha: would you prefer zip or tar.gz
[08:47] <Pyrrha> Oooh that's a tough one....
[08:47] <Pyrrha> lol
[08:48] <vipwoody> Jordan_U: I am very sorry, but how can I do that? I'm new to all that Linux thing :)
[08:48] <bazhang> Pyrrha, do you have a support question?
[08:48] <bricky> Xgates: if you install driconf you can use more options for your card
[08:48] <Pyrrha> tar.gz is looking nicer and nicer these days.
[08:48] <Pyrrha> No, I just wanted so show some appreciation for the masterful work of geniusness... That has been created.
[08:49] <bazhang> Pyrrha, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:49] <Pyrrha> I'm literally smiling whilst looking at the screen...
[08:49] <Pyrrha> Oh my bad...
[08:49] <kazadagu> bazhang: Another time I was put into a low resolution mode. I've also been getting this error everytime I try to change the keyboard settings that has something to do with xkb. I can't find the bug now but it was in launchpad. I just ran an update and got some linux kernel header or something. After rebooting the blank screen appeared
[08:49] <rww> Xgates: As far as I can see, Ubuntu's patches to it are limited to stuff that makes it work with Ubuntu. I don't see any additional features or whatnot.
[08:49] <Pyrrha> New to IRC... So away I shall go. & thanks for not banishing me...
[08:50] <red2kic> What is the default MTA for Ubuntu 10.04? exim4?
[08:50] <Xgates> bricky: all I want to know is if Ubuntu does anything to the fglrx driver or to the kernel for ATI support when you use the ATI proprietary because if I use Lucid and run the ATI driver, watching movies in VLC is great, but if I use a distro like Slackware and install the ATI driver and watch a video, same driver now, I have screen tearing
[08:50] <Xgates> so I'm trying to figure out what's going on here..
[08:50] <vipwoody> Jordan_U: I am running MAC on my other laptop here, the laptop with the problem booting Ubuntu 10.04 is beside me, how can I pastebin then?
[08:51] <rww> red2kic: There isn't one installed by default. If you install the Mailserver task in tasksel, you get postfix
[08:51] <bricky> Xgates: I find different installs  sometime have different outcomes reguardless, I cant help you out if you find out let me know :D
[08:51] <Xgates> k
[08:51] <kazadagu> bazhang: do have any suggestions?
[08:51] <bazhang> kazadagu, just checking launchpad
[08:52] <vipwoody> Jordan_U: Can I chat with you in private or is that not permitted here?
[08:52] <Xgates> rww: well I'm just trying to figure out why I have better video in Ubuntu over Slackware running the Ati drivers, I would think the quality is the same, using the same driver, UNLESS Ubuntu is patching something, or adding something in for video support that improves it
[08:52] <Jordan_U> vipwoody: Can you boot an Ubuntu LiveCD / use super grub disk to boot your Ubuntu install and just pastebin from the machine in question?
[08:52] <no-name> where do you find the equivalent to .cfg files in ubuntu and what are they called?
[08:52] <red2kic> rww: Do you happen to know how I can set up postfix to use Gmail (IMAP)?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> vipwoody: You may.
[08:52]  * Peppermint_AWAY is away: Al momento nn ci sono
[08:52] <rww> red2kic: postfix has nothing to do with IMAP
[08:52] <prince_jammys> Xgates: see the changelog at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <rww> !away > Peppermint_AWAY
[08:53] <Pyrrha> Hmmm okay now I have a support Q...
[08:53] <Sumit> Hi there..m having problem after upgrading to ubuntu 10, with my sound card.
[08:53] <red2kic> rww: Well, at least I want my machine to be able to send out using my Gmail account.
[08:53] <Sumit> from mic i am not getting any sound
[08:53] <Pyrrha> Before updates the boot screen was small... Now it's not... How to revert back?
[08:53] <vipwoody> Jordan_U: What is the key that I should press for choosing to boot the liveCD on MAC?
[08:53] <Xgates> prince_jammys: where would I find it for fglrx? This is all I've found so far, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/fglrx
[08:54] <Jordan_U> vipwoody: 'c' or option
[08:54] <bazhang> Pyrrha, need to fix the resolution? try booting in recovery mode and fixing your drivers
[08:54] <rww> red2kic: I haven't done this, but I assume you'd choose the Smarthost option in postfix's configuration (it prompts you for configuration during installation)
[08:54] <vipwoody> Jordan_U: alright thanks! I will boot now and get back to you
[08:54] <darknaruto25> Hi all !
[08:54] <Pyrrha> Bazhang That is a dpkg-reconfigure command?
[08:54] <red2kic> rww: I'll try.
[08:55] <darknaruto25> I encounter an issue with Evolution... My Google's contacts seem to not synchronized.
[08:55] <bazhang> Pyrrha, hold shift at boot to get into grub menu, then choose recovery mode
[08:55] <ShapeShifter499> I have a broken cache how do I fix that?
[08:55] <Pyrrha> Ok.
[08:55] <sangho> why cos3x - cos5x = -2sin4x * sin(-x) <-- this equation is correct?
[08:55] <darknaruto25> I set up 1 minute between synchronization into properties
[08:55] <no-name> where do you find the equivalent to .cfg files in ubuntu and what are they called?
[08:55] <prince_jammys> Xgates: see the 'changelog' link.
[08:55] <Sumit> hello..i am not getting any sound from my mic after upgrading to ubuntu 10
[08:55] <darknaruto25> but it still missing contacts
[08:56] <Pyrrha> Bazhang Thank you.
[08:56] <darknaruto25> Is there a way to manually refresh Google contacts ?
[08:56] <prince_jammys> Xgates: i think the answer to your question is "yes"
[08:56] <antivirtel> hello, where can I know, that ubuntu or debian is better for server ?
[08:56] <term_oldcomp1> I need a quick fix.  unable to get the native resolution on my monitor.  only allowing up to 1024.  nvidia drivers bork it worse at 640.
[08:56] <Jordan_U> !best | antivirtel
[08:57] <Xgates> prince_jammys: sorry on packages.ubuntu.com I don't notice anything...
[08:57] <Jordan_U> loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxs
[08:57] <ShapeShifter499> I have a broken cache how do I fix that????
[08:57] <bazhang> Jordan_U, ?
[08:57] <prince_jammys> get the cat off the keyboard
[08:57] <Jordan_U> bazhang: Sorry, cat.
[08:57] <prince_jammys> \o/
[08:57] <bazhang> Jordan_U, haha
[08:58] <greezmun1ey> I tot i taw a putty tat
[08:58] <bricky> eh is there a way to check what sort of drivers I have installed
[08:58] <bricky> lmao
[08:58] <bazhang> bricky, check in hardware drivers
[08:58] <kazadagu> bazhang: I think this is it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/553772
[08:58] <Slart> term_oldcomp1: you can check the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log  for information about graphics modes and so on.. if you pastebin it we can have a look too
[08:58] <alabd> Good day all , How to sum 2 adsl account from one isp , on one pc ,  with one modem ???
[08:59] <Xgates> sheesh what's with all the floodbots changing every 5 seconds... :(
[08:59] <prince_jammys> Xgates: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/restricted/f/fglrx-installer/fglrx-installer_8.723.1-0ubuntu3/changelog
[08:59] <Xgates> thanks
[08:59] <kazadagu> bazhang: the error starts with "Error activating XKB configuration."
[08:59] <bricky> bazhang: hmm? it only shows what 's not in there i think
[08:59] <greezmunkey> alabd: that would have to be set up by your provider
[08:59] <Appl6> Xgates: They need to be ready to kick people from the channel for pasting too many lines of output, because it produces too much channel spam.
[08:59] <prince_jammys> hehe
[09:00] <bricky> bazhang: it shows 1 item and its my sofware modem, is that weird or what
[09:00] <Xgates> Appl6: I know what bots are, I'm not an IRC noob, LOL, just wondering why they are going so crazy... ;p
[09:00] <bazhang> kazadagu, that looks to be the issue as you describe it then
[09:00] <prince_jammys> Xgates: well, they're floodbots, so they're flooding.
[09:00] <Xgates> yeah the bots are flooding the chan with more crap then anyone else
[09:00] <alabd> greezmunkey:  hose 2 adsl account can be connected separately now , how to sum ?
[09:00] <bazhang> bricky, what does lspci show as the video card, wifi etc  (paste.ubuntu.com Please)
[09:01] <bricky> also my lpci does not show my broadcom adapter
[09:01] <bazhang> bricky, is this a dual boot
[09:01] <bricky> bazhang: nothing
[09:01] <Xgates> well I don't see any patching to the ATI drivers that does anything to improve video performance over the vanilla ati driver
[09:01] <Kane_Hart> is this the best compression method or is there better like I want to compress as good as possible tar cfzv mybins.tar.gz
[09:01] <bricky> bazhang: on my dual boot it showed up but not now its just linux
[09:01] <greezmunkey> alabd: you can't...you can't "combine" them in any useful way without the cooperation of you provider.
[09:02] <bricky> my lspci detects everything but my wifi adapter ive tried 10 different ways to install it
[09:02] <Appl6> Kane_Hart: bzip2 generally compresses better than gzip, but it takes longer.  xz is usually better than both, but it takes even longer (and it's not as common as gzip or bzip2).
[09:02] <kazadagu> bazhang: can you tell me what it means? I don't understand the info on that page. Also the bug I looked at before was said to be resolved. I'm not sure if I gave you the same link I was looking at before but that one is not resolved.
[09:02] <bricky> thats why I would like to know how many drivers I have so I can uninstall them all 100%
[09:03] <bricky> (for my wireless only)
[09:03] <alabd> greezmunkey:  what do you mean , is there any software way ?
[09:03] <Kane_Hart> I'm compressing big file usally about 1gig and send to my server so I don't really mind since my upload is slow :P
[09:04] <deathtank> hi everyone
[09:04] <rww> alabd: no
[09:04] <deathtank> anyone there
[09:05] <Appl6> Kane_Hart: Right, then "man xz" and look for the -0 ... -9 section.
[09:05] <bricky> yeah how can I sort my drivers by category ?
[09:05] <Appl6> Kane_Hart: However, it can use pretty obscene amounts of memory, so you may not want maximum compression if the compression takes longer than the upload.
[09:05] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: when do you get that error?
[09:05] <Phaedrus[]> guys, i have a quick question. Checking out Ubuntu - from a primary Mac usage. Is there a way to setup an expose kinda way to switch workspaces?
[09:05] <bazhang> kazadagu, the link you gave me has the bug as new and unassigned
[09:06] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: trying to install printer drivers
[09:08] <`boz>  hi all still getting a "command not found" msg when trying to install packages to enable dvd playing
[09:08] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: i can't speak to the saftey of the operation but this guy used a dpkg command to install the drivers: http://www.codigomanso.com/en/2009/06/instalar-impresora-canon-pixma-ip2600-en-ubuntu-904-64-bits/
[09:09] <kazadagu> bazhang: yeah I think the one I looked at before was different. I mean it was the same bug but a different bug report and that one was resolved.
[09:09] <`boz> cut and pasted from web pages
[09:09] <bazhang> `boz, installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu?
[09:09] <bazhang> kazadagu, yeah, would seem that way, not found it yet
[09:09] <rww> `boz: can you copy-paste the sudo ... install-css.sh command here, please?
[09:09] <kazadagu> bazhang: I will try to install fresh but everytime I try to burn the live cd I'm left with a blank disk for some reason
[09:10] <`boz> just installed 9.04 on a laptop bazhanf nothing prior
[09:10] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: well this isn't a 64 bit comp
[09:10] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: oh he's was using 64-bit
[09:10] <bazhang> `boz, then that is the reason
[09:10] <`boz> different machine rww
[09:10] <`boz> easy fix bazhang?
[09:10] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: btw I'm also forcing the drivers to install via the --force option
[09:11] <bazhang> `boz, check medibuntu.org
[09:11] <ManDay> !java
[09:11] <mmfb> Does anyone play EVE Online on Ubuntu 9.10 or Xubuntu 9.10?
[09:11] <rww> `boz: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs , which does pretty much the same as what bazhang is recommending.
[09:11] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: and you still get that error....
[09:11] <`boz> ok thanks
[09:11] <rww> basically, "sudo apt-get install libdvdread4" then "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[09:12] <kazadagu> bazhang: here's the bug report I saw before. I just found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/553401
[09:12] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: no I'm just now (like minutes before you showed me that link) starting to force install
[09:12] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: a guy in the comments of that post tried (another option): aptitude install -f
[09:13] <bazhang> kazadagu, seems that it was assigned, then fixed, yet you are still experiencing it?
[09:14] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: you are trying to install the "common" driver first?
[09:15] <kazadagu> bazhang: well I had the problem and that's why I checked for software updates. The only one in the list was something to do with a linux kernel header or something. After installing that update I started getting the blank screen
[09:15] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: yes
[09:15] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: I tried without forcing and it said it needed libcupsys2
[09:15]  * bleah afk
[09:16] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: so when I ran "sudo apt-get install libcupsys2" it said "note selecting libcup2"
[09:17] <becker_11> I just tried running a dist-upgrade on my laptop and it replied  I was uptodate but I'm using 9.10, what gives??
[09:17] <ManDay> My java applet is just a black box in firefox! :(
[09:17] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: but it after that it said libcup2 was up-to-date
[09:17] <red2kic> Hello, I'm trying to set up postfix to use my Gmail account. Now, I'm attempting to test it. I'm stuck at Subject: Whatever You Desire. How do I go to body section or next part?
[09:17] <ManDay> WHere there should be a java applet in firefox I just get a black box and the status bar says "jmol script terminated" - can anyone help to get it to work?
[09:19] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: that's what i'm getting too. researching...
[09:20] <`boz> bbl thanks for the help ppl
[09:21] <mmfb> Anyone play EVE Online with Wine?
[09:22] <jbell> anyone want to talk upgrade 9.10 -> 10.4
[09:23] <jbell> is it time yet is my major ?
[09:23] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes jbell read this link please
[09:23] <jbell> 9.10 is fine for me  xubuntu to be exact
[09:23] <jbell> okay thx
[09:23] <jbell> but i know all that stuff i bet
[09:24] <jbell> i'm asking opinion
[09:24] <Pyrrha> Bazhang are you still there?
[09:24] <bazhang> jbell, what is your question?
[09:24] <jbell> i usually do a clean install
[09:24] <bazhang> Pyrrha, yes
[09:24] <Pyrrha> Ah...
[09:24] <jbell> im talking upgrade
[09:24] <Pyrrha> Bazhang take a look.
[09:25] <Pyrrha> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[09:25] <Appl6> red2kic: Just hit enter?
[09:25] <bazhang> jbell, you want to see the upgrade notes? or just taking a poll
[09:25] <jbell> lol
[09:25] <jbell> taking poll
[09:25] <bazhang> !polls | jbell
[09:25] <jbell> okay
[09:25] <bazhang> jbell, /join #ubuntu-bots
[09:25] <jbell> thx
[09:25] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305248  has some instructions for modding the .deb to reference libcup2 instead of libcupsys2.
[09:25] <Pyrrha> Bazhang you saw?
[09:26] <red2kic> Appl6: I guess you're just trying to help.
[09:26] <jbell> is poll an irc command... sorry im not a big irc guy
[09:27] <bazhang> Pyrrha, yes
[09:27] <Pyrrha> That is what I was talking about.
[09:27] <bazhang> jbell, please dont take polls in here
[09:27] <jbell> right i wont, i understood
[09:27] <jbell> sorry to clutter  bye
[09:27] <Pyrrha> Bazhang, I'm pointing this out for future reference, if & when someone asks you.
[09:27] <ManDay> So that program SAGE comes as a binary, explicitly said to be for Ubuntu 10.4 and it works. But I had to dump the whole piece with all its stuff in one directory in /opt - there was no installer whatsoever. Yet the directory structure of that thing "looks like" its meant to be somewhat incorporated in the system - there are manpages, everything - what's the idea behind that?
[09:28] <bazhang> you could read the release notes, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic , or ask bestbot in #ubuntu-bots
[09:28] <Appl6> red2kic: ?  It sounded like you wanted to get past the Subject part of an email in a telnet session to an SMTP server.
[09:28] <red2kic> Appl6: Pressing Enter does not do anything. It just scroll down. Even... mail -s "Test" $EMAIL does not work.
[09:30] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: nice you found that now :P
[09:30] <ManDay> #sage-devel
[09:30] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: all ready forced installed everything and got the computer to get to the point of printing
[09:30] <ManDay> erm
[09:30] <kubanc> how do i run .run file in terminal?
[09:31] <CaptainTrek> kubanc:  set it executable first, then ./<filename>.run
[09:32] <kubanc> CaptainTrek, i didi it with sudo sh "name"
[09:32] <CaptainTrek> kubanc:  did which part?
[09:32] <kubanc> CaptainTrek, to start the .run file
[09:32] <CaptainTrek> kubanc:  did you chmod +x <filename>.run?
[09:33] <CaptainTrek> kubanc:  so that it is set to be executable?
[09:33] <kubanc> yes i did this...
[09:33] <CaptainTrek> kubanc:  and its not running when you run sh <filename>.run?
[09:34] <kubanc> CaptainTrek, yes it's running, i'm just confirming that IT IS working :D. thnx for help
[09:34] <CaptainTrek> o.O
[09:34] <aLemmer> I want to set folder icons to a specific SVG I have with Gnome. Is there any way to set the folder icon?
[09:34] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: I still can't print D:
[09:36] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: do you now have the printer listed?
[09:37] <kazadagu> Can anyone help me with this problem: I have tried to burn the ubuntu 10.04 iso several times using cd/dvd creator and k3b and each time I'm told the burn was successful but I am left with a blank cd. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[09:37] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: I think the same problem that I had on my windows is now happening in ubuntu, just its not telling me that......  the prob I had when it was connected to windows is that it kept demanding that a color cartridge be connected(empty or not) but I don't have an color cartridge....I ONLY have a b/w cartridge D=
[09:38] <rww> kazadagu: in k3b, are you using the "Burn Image" option?
[09:39] <ramukmar> hi, anybody know how I can reset the evolution indicator in the panel to show 'set up mail' again?
[09:39] <kazadagu> rww: yeah
[09:39] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: if you change the printer properties to a 'grayscale' printout mode, does that help?
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: there must be a way around the problem
[09:39] <DefaultTo0> Hi guys. I just downloaded and installed the Flash 10.1 update. Does anyone know if this update fixes the issues for fullscreen video that are present in Ubuntu?
[09:39] <bazhang> DefaultTo0, it was a security fix afaik
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: on windows it didn't help, and on ubuntu the "type" of printer is stuck on RBG
[09:39] <Slart> DefaultTo0: probably not
[09:40] <vi390> when I move a window, it looses focus sometimes - even when I get the left MouseKey pressed. Its very annoying, is there anything that can be done?
[09:40] <ShapeShifter499> *RGB
[09:40] <willwork4foo> So I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04 Server on an Intel Atom N270 - based system from a USB drive created with www.pendrive.com stuff... and it boots to the installer menu, but then freezes as soon as I press enter to install the OS.
[09:40] <DefaultTo0> bazhang: I know that there was an important security fix contained in it, but by increasing the version number to 10.1 I would have thought that they would try and introduce some new minor features.
[09:40] <jbell> bestbot was only helpful for apps in repository
[09:40] <jbell> just fyi
[09:40] <willwork4foo> Any suggestions / thoughts? This system has no optical drive.
[09:41] <bazhang> jbell, you might want to check the release notes then
[09:41] <bazhang> !notes | jbell
[09:41] <CaptainTrek> willwork4foo:  is it a netbook?
[09:41] <jbell> i will try offtopic
[09:41] <willwork4foo> CaptainTrek: it's a "nettop"
[09:41] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: So in system->admin->printing || select properties on printer || Printer Options || Printout mode  There are no grayscale options?
[09:41] <willwork4foo> sorta a mini desktop using an Atom CPU
[09:42] <bazhang> willwork4foo, I would try unetbootin, that is how I got Ubuntu on my eeepc
[09:42] <ManDay> JMOL 3d graphs as gernated by SAGE do only display as black boxes instead of as a proper Java applet, can anyone help?
[09:42] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: um I forgot to say I'm on xbuntu
[09:43] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: a ubuntu system with xbuntu packages installed, I am currently in xbuntu right now
[09:43] <Ellement> can anyone help me with tightvnc. i installed it on ubuntu and chicken of the vnc, i can only seem to connect to the logged in user on ubuntu, i want to be able to login to a different accounts. is this possible?
[09:43] <Ellement> chicken of the vnc in on mac
[09:43] <ramukmar> hi, anybody know how I can reset the evolution indicator in the panel to show 'set up mail' again?
[09:44] <Ellement> this is also over a lan
[09:44] <bricky> anyone know if those media center remotes can work with linux somehow?
[09:44] <bazhang> bricky, using lirc?
[09:45] <bricky> bazhang: I can try, I suppose
[09:45] <bricky> bazhang: im gonna wiki that :)
[09:46] <darknaruto25> Can anyone help me to manually refresh my Google address book with Evolution ?
[09:46] <willwork4foo> bazhang: thanks :)
[09:47] <bricky> bazhang: thanks thats what I was lookin for
[09:48] <shadows090> Hey guys, i've been trying to mess with samba (terminal, no gui installed) and under my shared directories i have print$. does anyone know how to remove that?
[09:49] <Guest55628> hello world
[09:49] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: what do I do in xbuntu?
[09:49] <ManDay> Can anyone help me with getting java to run?
[09:49] <Sam_Fisher> Sudo Run Java Run!
[09:49] <bazhang> ManDay, you installed it from the partner repo?
[09:49] <ManDay> update-java-alternatives -s  for example gives me a million erros "alternative does not exist"
[09:49] <bazhang> !partner | ManDay
[09:50] <Akiraa> When I try to download ubuntu server for 64bit, I get an iso named: ubuntu-10.04-server-amd64.iso, I'd like an Intel x64 image if possible
[09:50] <Sam_Fisher> Linksys router set my name for me. What did it use?
[09:50] <ManDay> bazhang, i installed sun's from partner PLUS the plugin for mozilla but it doesnt work properly in firefox (the applet is a black box) - then I got the openjdk and changed with update-java-alternatives (which gives me a million erros) but the applet is still a black box!
[09:51] <thune3> ShapeShifter499: i honestly don't know where xubuntu printer setup is.
[09:51] <oCean_> Akiraa: the amd64 image is also the image you use for x64
[09:51] <oCean_> intel
[09:51] <Akiraa> oCean_: ah, ok
[09:51] <ShapeShifter499> oh .... ):
[09:52] <ManDay> How do I verify what PLUGIN firefox uses for displaying a java applet (icedtea or sun) ?
[09:53] <bazhang> ManDay, about:plugins in the address bar ?
[09:54] <kanik> hi
[09:54] <bob1> hi
[09:54] <ManDay> bazhang, thanks
[09:54] <kanik> howz going
[09:54] <ManDay> Can anyone help me to get java to work in firefox? Right now a JMOPL script is a black box!
[09:56] <bricky> wow lirc really works nice
[09:56] <magnetron> hi, i've got a problem with graphics on lucid. after a while the widgets (buttons, menus, pictures) will be garbled and replaced with horizontal lines. This is a nvidia card, but the bug i found on launchpad only applies to intel cards and is marked as "solved"
[09:56] <bricky> is there a way to control mouse with lirc?
[09:57] <bricky> maybe configure a hotkey for it?
[09:57] <bazhang> bricky, infrared mouse?
[09:57] <bricky> bazhang: Yeah, is that possible? might as well try to take advantage
[09:57] <red2kic> I spent half hour trying to get postfix to work with google apps mail. It doesn't work. I sent out emails but my phone never received them. Any help would be *really* nice.
[09:57] <bricky> :)
[09:59] <rtronk> how can i give /var/www and all its sub directorys permission for group www-data to read/write ?
[09:59] <zvacet> When I try to save translation in gtranslator program close it worked nice until last night any help?
[10:00] <Sam_Fisher> magnetron, which driver?
[10:00] <bjornine> JOIN #xubuntu
[10:00] <magnetron> Sam_Fisher: nvidia (not nouveau or nv), installed by jockey
[10:01] <ManDay> How do I start the global java console?
[10:01] <zvacet> !who | bjornine
[10:02] <bricky> bazhang: lol thanks :)
[10:02] <khelvan> Hello, when I installed Lucid Lynx I was already dual-booting between Windows 7 and Fedora 12. Lucid didn't see Fedora, but did see windows, so then I was dual booting with Lucid and Win 7. I ran an update to grub 2 and it found Fedora, but now it has lost Windows. Any advice on how to get my triple-boot working properly?
[10:03] <hobbitriddles> Can someone help? I get only a black screen when I try starting a KDE session.
[10:03] <tobo> hi guys, i just updated to lucid and when i boot it's caomplaining about / (root) not being ready, if i do S or M the disk /dev/sda1 is there and i can remount rw and so on, not really sure what's wrong
[10:04] <tobo> also, removed all entries but /dev/sda1 to / but still no dice
[10:04] <Sam_Fisher> magnetron, What is jockey? 195.xxx
[10:04] <tobo> I've googled my ass of here but haven't found anything useful
[10:05] <ShapeShifter499> thune3: I'm going to go, I'll tackle this later
[10:05] <Sam_Fisher> tobo, Supergrub disk 0.979
[10:05] <ShapeShifter499> bye everyone and goodnight
[10:05] <magnetron> Sam_Fisher: jockey is the "hardware drivers" tool. i'm using the nvidia-current that ubuntu/jockey suggests by default
[10:06] <ripping> There is any way to do a RAW copy of and Data CD?
[10:06] <moza> Hi i have a question in between hardware and Ubuntu. It states here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Intel_DH55TC that DH55TC is supported well by Linux. What about the DH55HC which is the same but in ATX (larger) format? Will it be supported just as well?
[10:06] <tobo> sam_fisher, i supergrub will solve this? i mean, grub runs fine but not the boot screen for 10.04
[10:06] <Jordan_U> tobo: Try adding "rootwait" to the kernel parameters.
[10:07] <tobo> ahh, in the grub menu
[10:07] <tobo> noted
[10:07] <tobo> trying now
[10:07] <ripping> My Data CD have 2 bad sectors in the end... I want to do a exact copy of it
[10:07] <rtronk> i am new to the wounderful world of ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to list ONLY running services?
[10:07] <Jordan_U> tobo: No, super grub disk won't really help with this as it's not a grub problem.
[10:08] <gs412> hello
[10:08] <tobo> dude Jordan, you the man!!!!!!!
[10:08] <gs412> every one
[10:08] <tobo> that solved it :D
[10:08] <tobo> tnx a million
[10:08] <gs412> who can help me
[10:08] <linis> i tried installing addins for tomboy notes. created a .tomboy/addins directory in my homefolder and downloaded the addin bin file (.dll) to that dir. but when i go inside the preferences > addins i cant see any new addin there.
[10:08] <filesuck> how to hack using ubuto
[10:08] <Vanuatooooooo> hello, does Ubuntu 10.04 live cd contain memtest, like previous releases did?
[10:08] <gs412> hahahaha
[10:08] <gs412> hahahahahaha
[10:08] <gs412> hahahahahhahaha
[10:08] <gs412> hahahaha
[10:08] <filesuck> ??
[10:08] <FloodBot3> gs412: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <gs412> hahahah
[10:08] <gs412> hahahaah
[10:08] <oCean_> gs412: stop
[10:08] <filesuck> help plz
[10:09] <linis> i tried installing addins for tomboy notes. created a .tomboy/addins directory in my homefolder and downloaded the addin bin file (.dll) to that dir. but when i go inside the preferences > addins i cant see any new addin there. pls help.
[10:10] <foxmulder881> filesuck; what do you need help with?
[10:10] <amee2k> WikkidByDesign: please refrain from PMing random people to advertise your own linux channel. thank you.
[10:10] <ManDay> Appl6, can you help?
[10:10] <gs412> who can help me ?
[10:10] <kook78> anyone else using Ubuntu 10.10 Alpha1?
[10:10] <foxmulder881> kook78; go to #ubuntu+1 for Maverick chat.
[10:10] <shafi> Is it possible to share a public IP between two different internet centers?
[10:11] <kook78> ok thanx
[10:11] <oCean_> shafi: this is ubuntu support
[10:11] <dartt> which chat application is gud for ubuntu...i dun like empathy
[10:11] <Vanuatooooooo> can anyone answer my question?
[10:11] <hobbitriddles> dartt: try pidgin
[10:11] <gs412> who can help me ?
[10:11] <dartt> is it in synaptic?
[10:11] <oCean_> Vanuatooooooo: sure it has memtest
[10:12] <foxmulder881> gs412; with what?
[10:12] <Appl6> ManDay: With what?
[10:12] <Vanuatooooooo> Can I run it using live cd?
[10:12] <Vanuatooooooo> and see the progress?
[10:12] <binaryme> Vanuatooooooo: Yes, you need to hat a key  (Esc?) when you fist see the Ubunutu screen
[10:12] <gs412> i use irc first time
[10:12] <Vanuatooooooo> binaryme, thanks
[10:12] <ManDay> Appl6, I thought you were using Sage on Ubuntu?
[10:12] <Appl6> ManDay: My Internet died.  I just got back about 30 seconds ago.
[10:13] <oCean_> gs412: This is ubuntu technical support channel. Read the channel topic, and the IrcGuidelines.
[10:13] <ManDay> Appl6, Did you get SAGE to work?
[10:13] <hobbitriddles> dartt: yes, it is
[10:13] <Appl6> ManDay: So I have no idea what's going on.  But yeah, I've used sage on Fedora and Arch; I don't think Ubuntu would be much different.
[10:13] <zvacet> dartt: yes pidgin is i synaptic  universe repo
[10:13] <Appl6> ManDay: I haven't tried 4.4.3.  The last one I used was 4.4.
[10:14] <Appl6> ManDay: Just ask your question.
[10:14] <hobbitriddles> I get only a black screen when I start a KDE session. Can someone help?
[10:15] <ManDay> Appl6, mind query? I think this is OT for #ubuntu
[10:15] <red2kic> rww: Whooo! I finally got that to work. That was pretty rwwed up.
[10:16] <StaRetji> Folks, really need help making panel go autohide in Ubuntu Netbook
[10:16] <red2kic> rww: The postfix + gmail apps mail.
[10:16] <ManDay> Appl6, the 3dplots are just black boxes for me with Firefox and openJDK
[10:16] <tobo> Jordan_U, now it goes further but hangs on udevd[108]: failed to create queue file: No such file or directory
[10:16] <rww> red2kic: awesome :)
[10:16] <tobo> does it need a new fstab entry?
[10:17] <nUboon2Age> g0nz0|Boston:
[10:17] <tobo> that's weird though, upgraded another computer that did not require any changes to fstab
[10:17] <Appl6> ManDay: Uh I have no idea.  I don't have sage installed now, and I don't know enough to tell you what might cause that.
[10:18] <ManDay> Does anyone know where to get a JAVA consolke from so I can check whether an applet is causing errors?
[10:20] <tobo> found the answe, nvm :)
[10:22] <StaRetji> Has someone been able to force autohide of panel in Ubuntu Netboot lucid
[10:22] <StaRetji> *Netbook
[10:22] <ManDay> Why the heck does firefox fork to background when run with 'firefox' ?! How do I keep it attached to the terminal so I can see its stdout and stderr?
[10:23] <Jordan_U> ManDay: Because firefox is already running, and you'r just telling it to open a new tab in the already running process (which was never connected to your terminal)
[10:23] <hobbitriddles> I can't start a KDE session, I only get a black screen
[10:24] <ManDay> ah Jordan_U - right i missed to close on windows!
[10:25] <ripping> How I can do a EXACT copy of an CD/DVD with bad sectors?
[10:25] <nUboon2Age> gs412: do you have an Ubuntu issue you wanted to ask about?
[10:25] <bafi> hi, need some help, currently am using ubuntu 9.04 I would like to install latest ubuntu but I want to leave home partiton, possible to do it? sorry for my english
[10:25] <progre55> hi people! I'm in a net cafe, where they use a proxy to get online.. is there any way I can have that proxy for the whole computer, and not only for a browser? especially I need ssh
[10:26] <Jordan_U> ripping:gnu ddrescue (note there is another program called ddrescue, you want the gnu version)
[10:26] <Xunie> Pulseaudio's daemon auto spawns, /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop tells me it's "configured for per-user sessions".
[10:26] <kubanc> does html5 work on chromium?
[10:26] <Xunie> So, how do I turn it off (and on) from spawning by itself when it's killed?
[10:26] <gs412> nUboon2Age: I am sorry , i know only a little english
[10:27] <savetheinternet> hey, im new to ubuntu. i just installed it after accidentally losing my C: drive. but it keeps crashing
[10:27] <savetheinternet> it just freezes and crashes
[10:27] <ripping> Jordan_U: I'll give it a try :) ty
[10:27] <savetheinternet> and i dont know what to do
[10:27] <Jordan_U> kubanc: Yes, but only with theora (and webm if you use the daily builds) content
[10:27] <Jordan_U> ripping: You're welcome.
[10:27] <gs412> ÓÐÖÐ¹úÈËÂð£¿
[10:27] <kubanc> Jordan_U, so i need to install theora?
[10:28] <erUSUL> ripping: cdrdao or readom ? both cli apps
[10:28] <gs412> ÎÒ½ÐÓôÃÆËÀÁË£¬Ò»¾ä¶¼Ìý²»¶®
[10:28] <oCean_> gs412: stop
[10:28] <hobbitriddles> gs412: what language do you speak?
[10:28] <nUboon2Age> gs412: if you need help with Ubuntu in a different language, it may be available.  What is your native language?
[10:28] <linis> bafi: back up the home partition and then install fresh.
[10:28] <Jordan_U> kubanc: No, you just won't be able to view all html5 youtube videos (yet, recently introduced webm will change this)
[10:29] <progre55> hi guys. is there a way to ssh over a proxy?
[10:29] <savetheinternet> utf8
[10:29] <kubanc> Jordan_U, ok, so chromium under linux doesn't support html5 for now..
[10:30] <bafi> linis: home partition is 40GB , where to keep it after back up?
[10:30] <erUSUL> kubanc: it does here ...
[10:30] <llutz> progre55: corkscrew can do
[10:30] <oCean_> progre55: if that proxy was setup to do ssh-proxying
[10:30] <progre55> llutz: thanks, let me have a look at it
[10:30] <progre55> oCean_: not sure.. I guess not
[10:30] <savetheinternet> can anyone help me please? is there some sort of log file that will help maybe. ubuntu just keeps freezing.
[10:31] <progre55> oCean_: so does it mean I'm screwed? (
[10:31] <RickRaven> is there anyone here who knows ruby? i need help
[10:31] <Jordan_U> kubanc: It does, just not youtube's html5 videos. It supports dailymotion and other sites html5 video content (which uses theora)
[10:31] <nUboon2Age> gs412:  what is your language?
[10:32] <wajiema> #ubuntu
[10:32] <erUSUL> Jordan_U: kubanc as i said the daily build i have enabled here ( ppa ) does suppor youtube webm html5
[10:32] <oCean_> progre55: The SSH command itself is not able to use a proxy in order to access external computers. So you'd need to tunnel through the http proxy. Maybe corkscrew can help you out
[10:32] <linis> bafi: if you dont have an external disk, then simply install a fresh ubuntu as a dual boot and then mount your old ubuntu partiton to your new ubuntu
[10:33] <wajiema> kk need some help pls
[10:33] <RickRaven> anyone who knows RUBY programming please?
[10:33] <bittin> RickRaven: #ruby might do
[10:33] <RickRaven> ok thanks
[10:33] <erUSUL> RickRaven: tried in a ruby channel ?
[10:33] <wajiema> trying to get my CD/DVD rom/burnner to work in 10
[10:33] <gintonic> I just installed lucid on a drive with a GUID partition table. /boot is marked as an EFI System partition. grub-install warns about using blocklists, but i'm not sure how grub2 was setup  in the first place. Is it ok to --force?
[10:33] <Jordan_U> kubanc: And the daily chromium builds do support youtube's html5 videos (which is a video format only made public a few weeks ago)
[10:33] <gs412> nUboon2Age: my language is chinese, i kown only a little english, sorry
[10:33] <oCean_> !info corkscrew | progre55
[10:34] <Jordan_U> gintonic: Do you have EFI or BIOS?
[10:34] <wajiema> bios
[10:34] <wajiema> with not enhance option
[10:34] <wajiema> or any option to change the prioridy
[10:34] <llutz> !cn | gs412
[10:34] <wajiema> with the stat
[10:34] <wajiema> sata
[10:34] <oCean_> !enter | wajiema
[10:34] <gintonic> Jordan_U, BIOS.
[10:34] <hobbitriddles> gs412: go to #ubuntu-cn
[10:35] <nUboon2Age> llutz: thankyou
[10:35] <gs412> ok thank you very much
[10:35] <savetheinternet> can anyone help me please? is there some sort of log file that will help maybe. ubuntu just keeps freezing..
[10:35] <Jordan_U> gintonic: Then you need a BIOS boot partition instead of an EFI system partition, http://grub.enbug.org/BIOS_Boot_Partition
[10:35] <erUSUL> savetheinternet: log files are in /var/log/ check messages and syslog
[10:35] <wajiema> Ocean i'm new to IRC pls explain
[10:36] <oCean_> wajiema: just try to keep the discription of your problem/issue in one single line.
[10:37] <wajiema> kk hers my prob was able to install ubuntu through netbuten or something like that because now of the *buntu's reconize my DVD-rom/burner
[10:37] <wajiema> sry
[10:37] <savetheinternet> erUSUL: thanks, ill have a look
[10:38] <wajiema> im not new to linux so i know most the common sollutions but none worked
[10:39] <Scorpion_on> !pimg
[10:39] <Scorpion_on> !ping
[10:40] <wajiema> can anyone help me i know this is a common problem with installs
[10:40] <hobbitriddles> !ping
[10:40] <Jordan_U> !install | wajiema
[10:40] <ripping> !ping
[10:41] <wajiema> no i got it installed through netbuttin but now i can't get it to reconize my DVD-burner
[10:41] <oCean_> !botabuse | ripping Scorpion_on hobbitriddles
[10:41] <hobbitriddles> wajiema: you mean unetbootin?
[10:42] <wajiema> yeah
[10:42] <wajiema> cause i got problems with the live CD as no common CD-rom drive found
[10:42] <LouisJB> anyone successfully installed sun jdk 6 from package mgr on very latest ubuntu?
[10:42] <erUSUL> !java | LouisJB
[10:43] <LouisJB> that doesn't appear to work at the moment
[10:43] <rileyp> there is a program to unzip unrar in gz everything what is it called
[10:43] <LouisJB> broken dependencies ?
[10:43] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: are you saying that your bios doesn't support changing the priority for a USB boot?
[10:43] <erUSUL> LouisJB: you need to enable the partner repositorie
[10:43] <rww> LouisJB: do you have the partner repository enabled?
[10:43] <LouisJB> erUSUL: done that
[10:43] <rww> hrm
[10:43] <wajiema> yes i can boot to a USB just did not have one big enough
[10:43] <erUSUL> !info unp
[10:43] <LouisJB> yes, I've performed the steps that worked previously, but on a brand new installation it now fails!
[10:44] <wajiema> but i can not change my sata options it's either on or off
[10:44] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: so I think you need 2GB (maybe 1GB will work, but I'm sure 2GB will).
[10:44] <erUSUL> LouisJB: can you paste the exact error you get from package manager ?
[10:44] <wajiema> so there for i think it's messin up me sata and IDE cofig on my DVD-rom
[10:44] <rileyp> there is a program to unzip unrar  ungunzip everything what is it called?
[10:45] <wajiema> no no i have ubuntu installed
[10:45] <erUSUL> !info unp > rileyp
[10:45] <wajiema> i am in it now
[10:45] <rileyp> erUSUL, thanks
[10:45] <LouisJB> erUSUL: well, using apt-get it asks for dependencies, if I add them in eventually it comes down to unixodbc which can't be installed
[10:45] <wajiema> just can't get it to reconized my dvd-rom
[10:45] <LouisJB> whereas it just worked a couple of weeks ago when I did another new install at the time
[10:46] <wajiema> and i've read up on it and it says change bios settings but my bios don't support it
[10:46] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: oh, you've got Ubuntu installed and you're booted in it, but you're having trouble with getting the SATA and IDE drive recognized.
[10:46] <wajiema> it only has options for on and off no enhanced setting or anything
[10:46] <wajiema> yes thank you
[10:46] <erUSUL> LouisJB: so it seems that the problem lies in unixodbc package?
[10:47] <wajiema> it reconizes my sata hard drive and my IDE hard drive but not my IDE dvd-rom
[10:47] <LouisJB> ultimately, I guess so, why that's changed I don't know
[10:47] <oCean_> !afk > Votan
[10:47] <erUSUL> LouisJB: some problem of the mirror you are using ?
[10:47] <LouisJB> I could probably install from binaries but probably better to avoid that right
[10:47] <wajiema> i have my sata HD as master and my IDE hd as master and my IDE DVD-rom as slave
[10:48] <LouisJB> erUSUL: could be, I'll paste the error in a moment - I'll retry it
[10:48] <Votan> err, i've been inhere forever with my bnc and now after ages i should change it ? o.0
[10:48] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: So Ubuntu is not recognizing your IDE dvd-rom drive.  And which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[10:48] <wajiema> on Elite Group 945gt
[10:48] <wajiema> 10.04 i think the newest
[10:48] <oCean_> Votan: using public /away messages or nick changes is strongly discouraged on Ubuntu IRC channels. repeated use of either of them may result in a ban
[10:48] <Votan> ...
[10:49] <hobbitriddles> I only get a black screen when starting a KDE session. Someone help please?
[10:49] <Votan> whatever
[10:49] <wajiema> i've ran ubuntu and kubuntu and even xubuntu before(previous versions) with no prob at all
[10:49] <Guest47035> 乱乱的
[10:50] <wajiema> just when i tried this time with a newer version i get problems
[10:50] <nUboon2Age> !cn| Guest47035
[10:50] <wajiema> aqlso i can run BT4 with CD-rom support
[10:52] <wajiema> i've done reseach on the problem but all it tells me is to change bios setting but my bios don't support them it's either on or off
[10:52] <wajiema> sry for th 2 linner
[10:54] <hobbitriddles> !ping
[10:54] <wajiema> so any suggestions
[10:55] <ramzi> hello
[10:55] <ramzi> i need help
[10:55] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: I have to go soon, and I don't have an answer for you, but if you don't get an answer here, now maybe posting over on http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331
[10:55] <wajiema> so do we all lol\
[10:55] <No_brain_dk> omg
[10:55] <ramzi> :S
[10:55] <ramzi> i want to connect to windows printer
[10:55] <wajiema> kk ty i'll try and get and answere and post it but most ppls with this problem get it during the install
[10:56] <ramzi> can someone help me
[10:56] <wajiema> but i went one step farther with the netbuttin install and went from there
[10:56] <wajiema> Ramzi whats the problem with connecting
[10:56] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: great that you figured out past the first major block.  That's good to know about.
[10:57] <ramzi> im a beginner
[10:57] <savetheinternet> k
[10:57] <ramzi> searched around the net for guide
[10:57] <wajiema> yeah im not one to give up like i said im new but not relly lol
[10:57] <savetheinternet> you want to connect to a windows printer?
[10:57] <ramzi> but coyes
[10:57] <ramzi> *yes
[10:57] <erUSUL> ramzi: System>Admin...>Printers did not work for you ?
[10:57] <ramzi> i've installed samba
[10:57] <wajiema> u got samba installed
[10:58] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: I meant that if you can't get the answer here now, you might be able to get it on the Ubuntu forums.
[10:58] <wajiema> i've looked but all i get is change ur bios settings but i don't have that option
[10:59] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: yes, but have you started your own thread?  Try it.  I've had good luck w/ it.
[10:59] <wajiema> like i said it's eithe sata on or sata off
[10:59] <wajiema> not yet but i will ty for ur help
[10:59] <savetheinternet> np
[10:59] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: sorry I don't have any more help to give.
[11:00] <wajiema> np man have a nice night or day depends where u are
[11:00] <erUSUL> ramzi: again; System>Admin...>Printers did not work for you ?
[11:00] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: ty, night.
[11:00] <wajiema> nite man
[11:00] <ramzi> erusul...no i didnt work
[11:01] <wajiema> ramzi u got samba installed
[11:01] <erUSUL> ramzi: how it failed ?
[11:01] <ramzi> yes
[11:01] <robin007bond> i didn't know the exact problem.. but if you have a hp printer sudo hp-setup is enough most of the time
[11:01] <ramzi> i got it installed already
[11:01] <erUSUL> !doesntwork
[11:01] <wajiema> kk is ur priter sared on ur xp machine
[11:01] <wajiema> shared
[11:01] <ramzi> theres two printers
[11:01] <jack__> hello
[11:02] <wajiema> cause sometime u gota instal a differnt drive to share a printer
[11:02] <ramzi> samsung ml1610 and brother dcp-130c
[11:02] <ManDay> Does Sun's JAVA Plugin always use Sun's JAVA 6 or may it happen that it uses OpenJDK?
[11:02] <savetheinternet> m
[11:02] <wajiema> not sure on them but i know on lexmarks u gotta have a certain driver installed on the XP machine for windows to share it
[11:02] <jack__> i need help with automounting an Iomega network harddrive, each time i start the computer i have to type mount -a to log in and then i get prompted to type my password for each partition. how can i avoid that?
[11:03] <ramzi> the printers are already installed on the windows machine
[11:03] <Duskin> is there a vnc server available in the repository, preferably with gui setup?
[11:03] <ramzi> all other windows machine can connect to them
[11:03] <EgyParadox> Duskin: you can share your desktop without installing VNC
[11:03] <wajiema> yes ramzi but u can install a lexmark printer on a n xp machine and still not share it
[11:03] <wajiema> but if u install the other driver it will
[11:03] <ramzi> i have the "unable to connect to CIFS Host" message
[11:03] <EgyParadox> Duskin: you can share your desktop.
[11:04] <Duskin> EgyParadox: can windows machines access SSH?
[11:04] <wajiema> it will ask u in install if this is a network printer
[11:04] <savetheinternet> Supplying innovation when you least expect it.
[11:04] <ramzi> can i PM u wajiema?
[11:04] <wajiema> yes
[11:04] <robin007bond> I have a problem. I run Compiz and when I play a video with mplayer it switches to the third workspace. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64-Bit. Suggestions?
[11:04] <robin007bond> *smplayer
[11:04] <EgyParadox> Duskin: Explain what you want exaclty
[11:04] <robin007bond> mplayer works fine though
[11:05] <Duskin> EgyParadox: i want to be able to share my desktop with a windows client over a network
[11:05] <savetheinternet> Duskin: you can use PuTTy to access SSH with Windows
[11:06] <savetheinternet> As a client, i don't know about a server
[11:06] <EgyParadox> Duskin: You want to access using command line or graphical User interface?
[11:06] <Duskin> EgyParadox: GUI
[11:06] <No_brain_dk> hi guys
[11:06] <savetheinternet> No_brain_dk: hi
[11:07] <savetheinternet> Duskin: If I'm not mistaking, SSH has only command-line. YOu may be looking for remove desktop
[11:08] <No_brain_dk> i want to ask something, is there a good training(10 finger writing) programme for ubuntu????????
[11:08] <Duskin> savetheinternet: im looking to be able to control my linux pc from a windows pc just like i would with vnc
[11:08] <EgyParadox> Duskin: vino is a vnc server.
[11:08] <EgyParadox> software for vnc*
[11:09] <binaryme> Duskin:  Go into System - Preferences - Remote Desktop - Enable
[11:09] <Duskin> binaryme: is that a vnc server?
[11:09] <binaryme> Then you can use VNC to access it with VNC   ---- yes
[11:10] <erUSUL> ramzi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[11:10] <Duskin> binaryme: thank you, exactly what i wanted
[11:10] <binaryme> Duskin: you're welcome
[11:10] <raven> windows installed after ubuntu - how to restore grub?
[11:10] <EgyParadox> Duskin: Yes, actually I believe you can share your desktop through remote desktop in preferences
[11:11] <EgyParadox> Duskin: I believe it uses VNC
[11:11] <binaryme> raven: try sudo update-grub from a console
[11:13] <wajiema> kk need some mojor help here
[11:13] <wajiema> just install ubuntu throun net bootin cause it did not detect my DVD-rom
[11:13] <wajiema> now thats it's installed i have no DVD-rom support
[11:13] <albech> has the gnome keyboard applet been removed?
[11:14] <wajiema> i know this is a copmmon problem cause i've seen it in install bugs but i passed that
[11:14] <albech> i cannot switch between thai and english keyboard anymore since the applet is no longer on the panel nor in the list of applets that can be added to the panel
[11:15] <jack__> i need help with automounting an Iomega network harddrive, each time i start the computer i have to type mount -a to log in and then i get prompted to type my password for each partition. how can i avoid that?
[11:15] <hobbitriddles> albech: try System>Preferences>IBus Preferences.
[11:15] <catnap> how do I check free disk space from command line?
[11:16] <hobbitriddles> catnap: enter  free  at the terminal
[11:16] <Freeaqingme> catnap, /bin/df
[11:16] <linis> catnap: df -h
[11:17] <catnap> good - thanks
[11:17] <ubuntu_> hi all - i'm having real trouble installing ubuntu 10.4.  i'm installing from cd, i get an error saying 'The ext4 file system creation in partition 1 of serial ATA RAID isw_cfsdgeie_volume0 (stripe) failed
[11:17] <ubuntu_> can anyone help?
[11:17] <catnap> I would also need to make sure that grub is in my root partition - how is it done?
[11:18] <wajiema> Jack try this http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/index.php?post/2008/04/06/101-using-iomega-home-network-disk-drive-500-gb-with-gnu-linux-debian-testing
[11:18] <wajiema> is ur harddrives goor Ubuntu
[11:18] <wajiema> good
[11:18] <linis> jack__: write to your /etc/fstab file
[11:19] <ubuntu_> wajiema, dont know sorry!  i had windows installed til recently, tried formatting & repartitioning
[11:19] <wajiema> CAN ANY ONE HELP ME WITH THE DVD_ROM PROBLEM
[11:20] <wajiema> try to run some kind of check disk on ur drives Ubuntu
[11:20] <wajiema> to check for error
[11:20] <Scorpion_on> !man
[11:20] <ubuntu_> wajiema, like windows chkdisk?
[11:20] <wajiema> it should work
[11:21] <jack__> linis: what shall i write to my fstab? i  think i have correct lines in my fstab it's just that i have to $ sudo mount -a everytime and type passwords
[11:21] <naoshige> Hey
[11:21] <naoshige> Who runs irclogs.ubuntu.com?
[11:21] <wajiema> or if u have an after market HD utill disk
[11:21] <iKb> can't get the gnome-power-manager working
[11:21] <wajiema> sry fgor u lo,
[11:21] <iKb> always fuly charged
[11:22] <hobbitriddles> !ping
[11:23] <yancho> hi guys. lately on my dad's 9.10 machine  he is seeing alot of green lines. they start appearing after the login screen, so when in grub etc it is ok. i am suspecting a drivers problem. how can i uninstall the drivers and reinstall please?
[11:23] <catnap> ever mind about the question about grub - but for future reference the command is sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub
[11:24] <ubuntu_> is there a ubuntu equivalent to chkdisk?
[11:24] <ubuntu_> i'm on a completely blank laptop, booted from ubuntu live cd
[11:24] <catnap> can anyone guess why grub sees windows 7 but not windows xp?
[11:25] <catnap> grub is installed on extended partition
[11:25] <LouisJB> ok when trying to install java jdk the dependencies resolve down to unixodbc and when I try to install this I get "Package unixodbc has no installation candidate", any ideas?
[11:26] <ramzi> hello
[11:26] <nUboon2Age> ubuntu_:  fsck is the chkdsk equivalent.
[11:26] <wowoto> hi all
[11:26] <ramzi> is there someone who has experience connecting to samsung printer installed on windows os machine
[11:26] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: you can not chdisk or fsck (linux equivalen) a blank disk both commands work at the filesystem level so the diesk must be formated
[11:28] <nUboon2Age> !fsck
[11:28] <nUboon2Age> !format
[11:28] <ramzi> i dont plan to be annoying but can someone guide me on how to connect to printers installed on windows machine
[11:29] <savetheinternet> hi
[11:29] <PureRumble> I get ubuntu is running in low graphics mode on startup. I have 10.04 with nvidia geforce gt 220m on a laptop.
[11:29] <Ben__> I'm an Ubuntu novice. I want to route ALL ubuntu traffic through the Tor proxy at the OS (not app/browser) level. The Incognito secure operating system project does this via. firewall - http://git.immerda.ch/?p=amnesia.git;a=blob;f=config/chroot_local-includes/etc/firewall.conf . Does Ubuntu have a "firewall.conf" file too, and if I copied the contents of that link into it, would it work the same?
[11:29] <PureRumble> the problem occurs on random
[11:29] <ubuntu_> thanks ubottu, nUboon2Age
[11:29] <PureRumble> sometimes i get the problem on startup, sometimes i dont.
[11:29] <nUboon2Age> ubuntu_: yw
[11:30] <jack__> i need help with automounting an Iomega network harddrive, each time i start the computer i have to type mount -a to log in and then i get prompted to type my password for each partition. how can i avoid that?
[11:31] <ubuntu_> i have a dev/sda and a /dev/sdb
[11:31] <ubuntu_> seems to find them
[11:32] <ubuntu_> but in gparted i can't treat them as a single hd
[11:32] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: becouse they are not
[11:32] <_Narc_> Hello guys. I'm setting up a network between two Lucid boxes, and I'm wondering if a transfer speed of 9.9 Mb/s is normal or can be considered slow... Using smb. Thanks.
[11:32] <ubuntu_> so i need to get raid set up properly?
[11:33] <gothenburg> no
[11:33] <peterp> hi all, i am looking for color picker for ubuntu. i want to pick color from webpage, but colorzilla does not work on my ubuntu 10.04, so i am looking for generic color picker. i tried gcolor2, but it shows the color after clicking - i need to see color instantly while moving a mouse. is there any nice tool?
[11:33] <erUSUL> _Narc_: 10 MiB for a 100 Mbit/s network seems ok
[11:33] <gothenburg> peterp: colorzilla should work
[11:33] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: what type of raid?
[11:33] <llutz> _Narc_: gigabit? too slow, fast-ethernet, ok. smb causes some overhead
[11:34] <ubuntu_> serial ATA RAID? not sure erusul
[11:34] <_Narc_> erUSUL: Ok then, it will take ages to backup my data :) Thanks.
[11:35] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: one you configure in your bios ? comes as a feature of the motheboard? or is a true (and expensive) hardware raid card
[11:35] <_Narc_> llutz : I figured smb would be better than SSH because of the encryption....
[11:35] <raven> windows installed after ubuntu - how to restore grub?
[11:35] <_Narc_> Or absence thereof
[11:35] <peterp> gothenburg: it should, but it does not. i followed http://www.colorzilla.com/firefox/, but no luck - package libstdc++5 and libxul-dev is not available
[11:35] <erUSUL> !grub2 | raven
[11:36] <llutz> _Narc_: nfs, netcat, lots of possibilities. but none will make fast-ethernet a ferrari :)
[11:36] <raven> binaryme, update-grub "cannot find a device for /"
[11:37] <ubuntu_> erusul, how would i find out?
[11:37] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: if you configured the raid you should know where you did it?
[11:37] <robin0800> raven: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[11:37] <_Narc_> llutz: I'm Gigabit....
[11:37] <ubuntu_> lol erusul, i think i havent configured the raid yet
[11:37] <llutz> _Narc_: then 10Mbit is far too slow
[11:37] <ubuntu_> that's probably where i'm going wrong lol.
[11:37] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: and if your machine has an expensive raid add on card you should know too ?
[11:38] <jack__> i need help with automounting an Iomega network harddrive, each time i start the computer i have to type mount -a to log in and then i get prompted to type my password for each partition. how can i avoid that?
[11:38] <_Narc_> llutz: That's what I thought. Any idea why ? Closed ports on firewall maybe ? Shitty router ?
[11:38] <Fudge> hi quick samba question, i set security to share and just added couple of share folders. but from another ubuntu machine it prompts for a password. what have i done wrong?
[11:38] <ubuntu_> i'm going to read up on that i think erusul.
[11:38] <ubuntu_> thanks for yr help, you might have pointed me in the right direction :)
[11:38] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: if you have plain pc hardware then probably is fake raid. if the machine is going to run linux only it is better to use linux software raid instead of bios fakeraid
[11:38] <llutz> _Narc_: check nic-settings on both ends using ethtool. router might be a problem, hard to check
[11:38] <erUSUL> !raid | ubuntu_
[11:39] <ubuntu_> thanks erusul, ubottu, i'll have a look.
[11:39] <_Narc_> llutz: Ok, I will, thanks for your help
[11:40] <hobbitriddles> I only get a black screen when starting a KDE session; how can I fix this?
[11:45] <wajiema> kk back
[11:47] <scarra3> I just got a lexmark x2670 printer / scanner but I don't know what driver to use for it
[11:48] <scarra3> any ideas on what driver I need to use
[11:48] <HinHin> hi there
[11:49] <mozillo> Hello
[11:49] <HinHin> ;) I'm trying to setup a VPN connection
[11:49] <HinHin> via the GUI network manager
[11:49] <HinHin> :\ but i can't press apply after i've entered the details
[11:49] <peterp> ok, i found picksel which shows color instantly compared to gcolor2 and works compared to colorzilla. but it still has weird user interface...
[11:50] <ohhai> Say i wanted to connect to ESSID "test" how would i do that with the iwconfig command ?
[11:50] <HinHin> is it possible i could open network-manager GUI as root?
[11:50] <ohhai> talking to me ?
[11:50] <HinHin> i think that might be the problem why i can't apply the VPN connection details
[11:50] <ohhai> nvm.
[11:50] <HinHin> :p
[11:51] <scarra3> Any ideas on what driver I need to use?
[11:51] <renwenlomg> 什么？
[11:52] <wajiema> kk need help with a DVD-rom porblem
[11:52] <_Narc_> Hello everyone. Any idea why my local network speed over smb is stuck to 10 MB/s using Gigabit ethernet ? Using two Lucid boxes. Thanks.
[11:52] <oCean_> !cn | renwenlomg
[11:52] <wajiema> caould be the router
[11:52] <wajiema> or some other interference
[11:53] <renwenlomg> 谢谢
[11:53] <wajiema> no chinese
[11:53] <wajiema> sry
[11:54] <wajiema> need massive help pls
[11:55] <oCean_> wajiema: you know the drill. Don't ask for help, just describe your problem/issue (detailed) in one single line
[11:55] <HinHin> so anyone have any ideas?
[11:55] <azi`> is there any way to prevent password prompting when my laptop goes idle'
[11:55] <HinHin> yes
[11:55] <azi`> HinHin: how?
[11:56] <HinHin> goto the screensaver thing
[11:56] <wajiema> kk i got a IDE dvd drive not beening read when i got a Sata HD and a IDE hd hooked up
[11:56] <loopidity> Places-->Music/Downloads.... all take me to the previous user's folder, not mine !
[11:56] <wajiema> sry ocean i bow to u lol
[11:56] <Botanic> hey ubuntu only see's one stick of ram but the bios see's 2
[11:56] <Botanic> any idea why?
[11:56] <loopidity> how to set the correct path
[11:56] <HinHin> azi`, system -> preferences -> screensavers
[11:56] <azi`> HinHin: yeah i see it ty
[11:57] <HinHin> and untick "lock screen..."
[11:57] <HinHin> ah no worries
[11:57] <wajiema> might be a flaw in the ram have u switch ur bois to do a full boot
[11:57] <Botanic> wajiema: windows saw it fine >.>
[11:57] <Duskin> so i cant seem to install lib32gcc1 package, i see it listed on the repository package search website
[11:57] <Botanic> just installed ubuntu
[11:57] <wajiema> yes
[11:58] <Botanic> what you mean "full boot"?
[11:58] <baskak> hi, i can't turn on desktop effects on 10.04. can i ask for step-by-step assistance?
[11:59] <loopidity> baskak try installing compiz first
[11:59] <wajiema> there should be an option in ur bios for a quick boot turn it off a see if the bios reads the full ram
[11:59] <ManDay> How do I configure gnome-terminal to use a specific geometry?
[11:59] <linis> baskak: right click on the desktop > Change  Desktop Background > Visual Effects
[11:59] <Botanic> wajiema: nope this is a WAY too old computer to have that :P
[11:59] <wajiema> ok
[12:00] <Botanic> it has 512 total :)
[12:00] <oCean_> wajiema: when talking to someone in particular, please start your line with that person's nickname. Also "u" nor "ur" are words in the English language.
[12:00] <wajiema> wow
[12:00] <wajiema> what version of ubuntu u installin
[12:00] <gothenburg> windows
[12:00] <Botanic> 10.04
[12:00] <baskak> loopidity: compiz is bundled with 10.04, i believe. i checked, and i have it
[12:01] <wajiema> but still every computer from a 486 gave me an optoin to do a quick boot just check it oput and see if u got it
[12:01] <ubuntu_> hi, im now trying to install just on one hd instead of  raid... error msg is the ext4 file system creation in partition 1 in scsi3(0,0,0) (sda) failed
[12:01] <ManDay> oCean_, do you want to save the English language from degenerating :D ?
[12:01] <loopidity> baskak and depends of your graphics driver as well, i think
[12:01] <Botanic> ya i didnt see it ima double check tho
[12:01] <ManDay> oCean_, you are a bout a few centuries too late for that :P
[12:01] <wajiema> sry olmaster oCean
[12:01] <oCean_> ManDay: wajiema Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers
[12:01] <wajiema> kk gocha ya
[12:01] <wajiema> last time promise
[12:01] <loopidity> baskak try asking inthe channel, of your graphics card
[12:01] <ManDay> oCean_, ok :)
[12:02] <wajiema> botanic what kind of processor you have in your computer
[12:02] <Botanic> a whopping celeron mobile 1.8
[12:03] <wajiema> 1.8 GHz
[12:03] <Botanic> y
[12:03] <baskak> linis: i click "normal" desktop effects (or however it's called in english), it searches for drivers, switches something on screen, and then says: "desktop effects can't be turned on"
[12:03] <wajiema> alright not that old
[12:03] <Botanic> wait actually my bad
[12:03] <Botanic> it has one 256mb module
[12:03] <Botanic> and total is 256
[12:03] <wajiema> reboot your computer and hit del or what ever u use to get into your bios
[12:03] <cryzed> Hey there, any ideas if the ASUS G73 would work with Ubuntu 10.04?
[12:03] <Botanic> i thought it was sayin dimm 1 256 dimm 2 256 XD
[12:04] <wajiema> go through the options and look for something that say quick boot or full boot
[12:04] <Botanic> na it really only has 256...
[12:04] <Botanic> and was runnin xp before
[12:04] <wajiema> if it says quick boot turn it off it is says full boot turn it on
[12:04] <linis> baskak: most probably ur graphics dont support the special effects (compiz)
[12:04] <ohhai> Botanic, ubuntu on 256 ram isnt a good idea
[12:04] <ManDay> How do I configure gnome-terminal to use a specific geometry?
[12:04] <Botanic> cryzed: it should
[12:04] <Botanic> ohhai: well its that or windows XP...
[12:04] <wajiema> and if it reads all your ram then it is a software problem if not then its a hardware promblem
[12:05] <ohhai> Botanic, windows xp
[12:05] <cryzed> Botanic, can you give me details on how you come to that conclusion?
[12:05] <oCean_> wajiema: one more time: please start your lines with the nick of the person you are talking to. Use <tab> completion: just type the first 2 or 3 characters of the nick and hit <tab> key
[12:05] <ohhai> Botanic, ubuntu is far too bloated for 256 ram
[12:05] <gothenburg> oCean_: fosl
[12:05] <wajiema> did not know that thank ur mod
[12:05] <Botanic> cryzed: ive ran ubuntu on similer models
[12:05] <wajiema> i will try to be more chat friendly
[12:05] <wajiema> first time here
[12:05] <Botanic> ohhai: ya its time to play the hack n slash game
[12:05] <wajiema> sorry
[12:06] <Botanic> :)
[12:06] <oCean_> wajiema: yes, that's why I point it out. Please remember those instructions
[12:06] <cryzed> Botanic, alright, thank you. There's one special feature in there that "Click here overclock 6%" -- is that hardware-specific or controlled via software that only runs on Windows?
[12:06] <ohhai> Botanic, i'd go for another distro with less bloat
[12:06] <wajiema> i will ty
[12:06] <wajiema> thank you sory
[12:06] <oCean_> wajiema: thank you
[12:06] <wajiema> have u figured out my problem yet ocean
[12:06] <Botanic> ohhai: this is for a friend all he does is internet but he needs simple, so tbh id rather it be a bit slow and easy then harder and faster
[12:07] <wajiema> where my linux will not reconize me DVD-rom
[12:07] <ohhai> Botanic, what makes ubuntu an easier than another distro running gnome ?
[12:07] <ohhai> easier distro*
[12:07] <Botanic> the package manager and updates are usually easier
[12:07] <Brazzer> hi guys im new to ubuntu can you tell me abit about it?
[12:07] <cryzed> ohhai, great built-in font rendering, also what Botanic says
[12:07] <ohhai> Botanic, lol no.
[12:07] <bazhang> ohhai, this is #ubuntu  please don't recommend windows or other linux distros here
[12:07] <ManDay> What is .gnome/Vim ?
[12:07] <cryzed> ohhai, show me one distro that has better-looking font rendering
[12:07] <wajiema> IT"S AWSOME IF U GET IT WORKING RIGHT
[12:07] <ohhai> most mainstream distros update auto
[12:08] <bazhang> !ot | ohhai
[12:08] <ohhai> ubuntu is just filled with bloated shit
[12:08] <oCean_> wajiema: don't SHOUT. Don't use caps
[12:08] <cryzed> ohhai, then go away
[12:08] <bazhang> ohhai, watch the language
[12:08] <ohhai> bazhang, stfu nix nub.
[12:08] <wajiema> sorry for yelling you guys
[12:08] <cryzed> Trolled
[12:08] <cryzed> Are there many people like that?
[12:08] <wajiema> just letting u know how badass Ubuntu is
[12:08] <Brazzer> does anyone know where i can get good free shell accounts with telnet and ssh services?
[12:08] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[12:09] <oCean_> wajiema: please consider if you are willing to listen to our instructions on how to behave in this channel.
[12:09] <HinHin> does anyone know how to add openVPN connections via Ubuntu's 10.04 network manager?
[12:09] <wajiema> i am
[12:09] <Brazzer> quit
[12:09] <wajiema> just new and a little tipsy sorry MOD
[12:09] <HinHin> I tried to add the connection but the apply button is grayed out
[12:10] <jpds> HinHin: Have you installed network-manager-openvpn-gnome ?
[12:10] <HinHin> jpds, i'll check
[12:10] <Brazzer> can someone tell me whatgnome is please?
[12:10] <jpds> !gnome | Brazzer
[12:10] <wajiema> i will help where i can and what i don't know i will leave for the experts
[12:10] <_Narc_> Hello everyone. Sorry to repeat. Any idea why my local network speed over smb is stuck to 10 MB/s using Gigabit ethernet ? I'm on two Lucid boxes. Thanks.
[12:10] <HinHin> jpds, yup it is
[12:10] <cryzed> Brazzer, GNOME is a Desktop Environment providing you with a Graphical User Interface (Window-Manager) and some standard applications.
[12:10] <ManDay> Does anyone know where is configured what command is run for a menu entry which is "Run in Terminal" ?
[12:11] <Brazzer> thankyou jpds
[12:11] <ManDay> Let's say I want a menu-item (gnome) which is "run in terminal" to be run in XTERM not GNOME-terminal
[12:11] <ManDay> Could I do that?
[12:11] <goshawk> ManDay, bash -c "command"
[12:11] <erUSUL> _Narc_: checked with "ethtool" the two interfaces as llutz suggested ? also as mentioned if the router/switch/hub is 100 MiB that's the higher speed you will get
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:12] <wajiema> i may be new but ain't all termal's the same'
[12:12] <ManDay> goshawk, what?
[12:12] <cryzed> wajiema, no not really.
[12:12] <wajiema> kk
[12:12] <HinHin> so anyone have any ideas why adding openVPN connections is grayed out in ubuntu?
[12:12] <archangelpetro> has anyone here managed to sort objective C to work on lucid?
[12:12] <wajiema> so KDE and Gnome is not the same
[12:12] <ManDay> goshawk, it runs gnome-termn by default!
[12:12] <Brazzer> where can i get god shell accounts from?
[12:12] <Brazzer> good*
[12:12] <wajiema> as in termalin;s
[12:12] <goshawk> ManDay, after you do "run in terminal", do you see a terminal window ?
[12:12] <cryzed> wajiema, GNOME-Terminal for example has a nice settings dialogue etc. Take a look at urxvt for a difference
[12:12] <wajiema> nice to know
[12:13] <ManDay> sure goshawk ?! do you know what you/me are talking about?
[12:13] <wajiema> like i said not new but not a pro
[12:13] <_Narc_> erUSUL: Yes. I'm reading the man page for ethtool because I don't get it yet :) I don't know about the router, it's a modem-router from my ISP, hard to get any specs...
[12:13] <goshawk> ManDay, man gnome-terminal -e, --command=STRING
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: they can do the same thing but use a different base (KDE uses Qt, Terminal uses GTK+)
[12:13] <wajiema> i csn do simple things but writing code or programing
[12:13] <oCean_> wajiema: stop spamming the channel with random remarks
[12:13] <goshawk> ManDay, look at the -e option
[12:13] <wajiema> sry'
[12:13] <Brazzer> stupid question: is anyone here under the age of 15?
[12:13] <ManDay> goshawk, thats not my question.
[12:13] <HinHin> anyone?
[12:14] <oCean_> Brazzer: so what? Keep it on topic
[12:14] <llutz> !ot | Brazzer
[12:14] <ManDay> My question is where is configured what command (by default gnome-terminal -e) is run for "Run in Terminal"-Menu entries
[12:14] <ManDay> @ goshawk
[12:14] <wajiema> just figured since no one can help me with my simple prob i'll try to make some since of this
[12:14] <goshawk> ManDay, ah sorry
[12:14] <goshawk> you want xterm instead of gnome-terminal for that command, isn't it?
[12:14] <Brazzer> wtf is the topic?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> HinHin: maybe launch the app using gksudo, i don't use vpn
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Brazzer: Ubuntu support and ONLY Ubuntu support
[12:15] <HinHin> ActionParsnip, what command would i call up?
[12:15] <ManDay> goshawk, well, I just said that - actually I want to change the default geometry of gnome-terminal
[12:15] <HinHin> using gksudo
[12:15] <wajiema> i can do many things i'm inbetween of beenin an pro and a noob just lookin to learn sry
[12:15] <Brazzer> how do i change channel on here?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> HinHin: well, what app are you launching and seeing the greyed outness?
[12:15] <wajiema> #
[12:15] <ManDay> goshawk, I could of course create a bash script inplace of gnome-terminal which then ....
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Brazzer: /join #channel
[12:15] <bazhang> Brazzer, /join #otherchannel
[12:15] <ManDay> but I thought I could do it differently
[12:15] <HinHin> ActionParsnip, it's in network manager
[12:15] <baskak> linis, loopidity: my video chip is very straightforward ati radeon 9200. i'm pretty convinced compiz works on it. also after the attempt to turn on effects my desktop pic and files are gone, and there are display problems (vanishing windows etc.)
[12:15] <imi> hi
[12:15] <Brazzer> how do i find the list of channels/
[12:15] <goshawk> ManDay, gnome-terminal, edit-> profile preferences
[12:16] <oCean_> wajiema: you are welcome to idle here, but only if you respect the channel's etiquette
[12:16] <oCean_> !etiquette  | wajiema
[12:16] <ManDay> goshawk, i cannot configure geometry in there
[12:16] <goshawk> ManDay, you can set default size and rows
[12:16] <bazhang> !irc | Brazzer
[12:16] <zakc> hi guys
[12:16] <zakc> i need help on configuring ldap client on ubuntu-9
[12:16] <loopidity> baskak tried reinstalling gnome or even compiz
[12:16] <ManDay> goshawk, let me check
[12:16] <imi> I am about to overwrite an ext3 partition with a file contained within it. is it possible?
[12:16] <goshawk> ManDay, what do you mean for geometry then?
[12:16] <imi> using no additional space
[12:16] <ManDay> goshawk, just what you said, i must be blind - thousand thanks man :)
[12:16] <baskak> loopidity: nope, how do i do it? via synaptic?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> HinHin: gksudo nm-applet , maybe.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | hinhin
[12:17] <goshawk> ManDay, http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/1381/geometry.png
[12:17] <wajiema> u guys know what i came here for help but none of u fucks can help me with my simple promblem so fuck yall u call ur selfs pros but u ain't i just need my DVD rom to work so i can get windows workin again
[12:17] <goshawk> ManDay, you're welcome, just sorry cuz i didn't understand you at first
[12:17] <HinHin> thanks ActionParsnip i'll give it a go
[12:17] <MindVirus> I'm trying to set up surround sound. When I play music I only get sound from rear left, rear right, and subwoofer.
[12:17] <loopidity> baskak http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178720
[12:17] <goshawk> ManDay, take a look at guake too
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: reinstalling Windows isnt supported here
[12:18] <loopidity> baskak alt + F2 will
[12:18] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: please don't get upset.
[12:18] <loopidity> then reinstall
[12:18] <cryzed> goshawk, D programmer? ;D
[12:18] <ManDay> goshawk, at quake?
[12:18] <goshawk> cryzed, yep
[12:18] <Spyzer> hi all, i have avant windows navigator installed. I did a sudo apt-get upgrade and now when i rebooted after a few hours i do not have the avant navigator
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: if your DVD drive is damaged you may get support in ##hardware
[12:18] <bricky> hey any apps to watch TV online?
[12:18] <goshawk> ManDay, http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/8990/guake.png
[12:18] <Spyzer> there is nothing in the bottom apart from a small box
[12:18] <Spyzer> please help
[12:19] <goshawk> ManDay, it's a sliding tabbed terminal you can show with f12
[12:19] <goshawk> ManDay, very nice tool :)
[12:19] <JackStoner> bricky: i think miro will do
[12:19] <Botanic> is ubuntu one needed on bootup?
[12:19] <nUboon2Age> ActionParsnip: wajiema: had a legit question about getting his DVD recognized.  It was beyond my knowledge.  maybe you can help?
[12:19] <Spyzer> ??
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> bricky: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tv-browser-online-digital-tv-guide-in-ubuntu.html
[12:19] <JackStoner> Botanic: it depends if u want it on bootup
[12:19] <goshawk> cryzed, nice to see you here once again!
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: whats troubling you, kiddo?
[12:19] <Botanic> what is it? i cant find anything useful and it has no discription
[12:20] <cryzed> goshawk, :D
[12:20] <Spyzer> please help anyone
[12:20] <hareldvd> Looking for an article on how to change grub font size (google results were lame).
[12:20] <wajiema> it's not that i need dvd-rom support to work in 10.04 i think i install ubuntu with netbootin fucked my windows 7 Bootloader(myfaultwronghardrive) but still 10.04 does not support my 1 sata hd,1 IDE hd, and 1 DVD IDE
[12:20] <ManDay> goshawk, uhh, i once though about getting something like that (or use compiz to make a "console desktop") but i prefer windows which i can put whereever i need them and play with. neat tool though. if I ever need a way for a quick command prompt ill get that!
[12:20] <Botanic> it just a music store?
[12:20] <ManDay> thanks!
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> Botanic:  its online storage also
[12:21] <goshawk> ManDay, :)
[12:21] <wajiema> just askin for some help
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> https://one.ubuntu.com/
[12:21] <wajiema> if wine supported a hardware cursor we would not have this prob
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: all drives are IDE ;), watch the swears too
[12:21] <Botanic> ya useless, least for me thanks :D
[12:21] <wajiema> sry just been on here for hours and no answere
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Botanic:  untill you need a place to stick a few mb of files
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: if you boot to your win7 CD you can reinstate the bootloader there
[12:22] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: please avoid swearing, but ActionParsnip has some smarts and may be able to help.  All these folks are just volunteers.
[12:22] <Botanic> Dr_Willis: this is for a friend and tbh they dont even store documents on there computer, its all email and internet browsing
[12:22] <Botanic> so thanks :D
[12:22] <seb_> hey whats up
[12:22] <seb_> everybody
[12:22] <seb_> wondering if someone could help me out
[12:23] <wajiema> i know but im a pirate and wuill not be able to burn my DVD untill i get DVD rom support on ubuntu
[12:23] <seb_> i can't get my wireless connection up and going
[12:23] <wajiema> and yes im not a noob but i did not back up my disc
[12:23]  * Dr_Willis missed the actual ubuntu support question from wajiema.
[12:23] <bricky> okay, kewl
[12:23] <wajiema> i know they are volenteer
[12:23] <Spyzer> please help me out anyone
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: if you boot to the live environment you can install grub as you wish
[12:24] <wajiema> kk re posten question
[12:24] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: can't help w/ the piracy, but maybe the tech problems can get sorted out. :)
[12:24] <bazhang> wajiema, what is the issue
[12:24] <odt> is this still valid for 10.04 - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:24] <wajiema> mt issue is
[12:24] <wajiema> i installed ubuntu with netbootin
[12:24] <bazhang> wajiema, all on ONE line
[12:24] <odt> especially wondering if "sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/karmic" should know be something else
[12:24] <wajiema> like a fool i put grub on my windows hf
[12:24] <wajiema> hd
[12:25] <MindVirus> I'm trying to set up surround sound. When I play music I only get sound from rear left, rear right, and subwoofer.
[12:25] <wajiema> but my ubuntu do9es not reconize my DVD-burner
[12:25] <_Narc_> erUSUL: My bad. ethtool says "Speed: 100Mb/s"... lspci says "Gigabit ethernet", that's what got me confused. So I'm stuck with 10 Mb/s max with any protocol ?
[12:25] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: I've made that grub goof before too. :-(
[12:25] <sheldon> hello all.  Is anyone else having trouble mounting CD/DVD's with 10.04???
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: so Ubuntu doesn't recognise DVD disks when you insert a disk?
[12:25] <bazhang> wajiema, its very hard to follow your issue as you use the enter key every couple of words.
[12:26] <behar> hi could it be that the ubuntu keyserver cant be reached?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> wajiema:  you installe with unetbootin? You mean You insatlled and made a bootabel usb flash drive you then installed from? or did you use Unetbootins 'install live system to a hard drive' feature ?
[12:26] <wajiema> may i have permisson to use more than one line to discribe my problem
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: run: sudo lshw -C disk; cat /etc/fstab    make sure you have an entry in /etc/fstab for each physical drive you have (they will have multiple names but you usually use /dev/scd0)
[12:26] <Spyzer> so no one gonna listen to me
[12:26] <behar> i try to add this key but it loads endlessly http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xE4DFEC907DEDA4B8A670E8042836CB0A8AC93F7A&op=index
[12:26] <llutz> _Narc_: try "sudo ethtool -s ethX speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off"
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Spyzer:  i never even saw you ask an actual question
[12:26] <sheldon> I can mount once after a reboot, but not after that.  And once the disk is mounted, I sporadically lose the mount and dmesg shows tons of I/O errors
[12:27] <MindVirus> No listening to me?
[12:27] <Spyzer> how to restart avan twindows navigator ???
[12:27] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: I can usually get away with 2 lines at a time.  No more.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Spyzer:  close the program and relaunch it perhaps?
[12:27] <Spyzer> but how it doesn't have a clos icon, and has many processes named awn-applets
[12:27] <Spyzer> should i kill them all one by one
[12:27] <Spyzer> ?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: you can type massively long lines in IRC dude see how this line goes on and on and on and its all good, if you quit hammering the enter key it makes your question easier to ask as we dont have to piece together lots and lots and lots of different lines
[12:28] <sheldon> I have 2 identical drives and they both worked fine before the upgrade to 10.04
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Spyzer:  if it wont 'quit' properly - try the 'kill' or 'killall' commands to kill runaway processes
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: check the output of the command I gave
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Spyzer:  you right click on the awn dock and it has a close menu itme somewhere
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Spyzer: right click dock -> quit   not work?
[12:29] <wajiema> kk here it goes, i tried to install ubuntu, said can not detect cd-rom, so i used Unetbootins, installed ubuntu fine, messed up and installed bootloader (grub) in the wrong place, now can't get ubuntu to reconize DVD-rom to burn CD to get my windows fixed
[12:29] <gothenburg> Someone that heard about Linux?
[12:29] <daniftodi> hello
[12:29] <daniftodi> i have a question
[12:29] <erUSUL> _Narc_: probably the router is the bottleneck
[12:29] <wajiema> that is my predicoment
[12:29] <daniftodi> windows or linux is better for secured system ?
[12:30] <Spyzer> finally  got it thanks everyone :)
[12:30] <baskak> loopidity: you mean "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"? isn't it too risky? i'm completely fed up with fresh reinstalls of ubuntu/linux - did a dozen of it, or so - and i know some operations can erode the system completely
[12:30] <wajiema> Actoin i was told to keep my questions to 1 line sry
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !ot | daniftodi
[12:30] <gothenburg> ubuntu desktop -.-
[12:30] <gothenburg> XFCE<3
[12:30] <sheldon> Thanks ActionParsnip.  What should i be looking for in the output?
[12:30] <MindVirus> I'm trying to set up surround sound. When I play music I only get sound from rear left, rear right, and subwoofer.
[12:30] <gothenburg> MindVirus: aha?
[12:31] <loopidity> baskak on startup, have u tried using KDE ? if not once try installing it see
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: well you will see the device names for the optical devices, in the fstab you should have a line for each optical device relating to one of the device names for each optical device
[12:31] <MindVirus> gothenburg: The center and front channels do not produce noise.
[12:31] <nUboon2Age> and wajiema did the research and folks were focused on changing bios settings, but his bios only supports on or off. ActionParsnip
[12:31] <wajiema> so any suggestions
[12:32] <gothenburg> MindVirus: and have you used the mixer?
[12:32] <wajiema> yes ty Nuboon
[12:32] <loopidity> when I use LCD on the fonts, a letter gets illegible each time. , where is the problem
[12:32] <MindVirus> gothenburg: alsamixer?
[12:32] <gothenburg> MindVirus: kind
[12:32] <gothenburg> sort of
[12:32] <wajiema> i did sojme research and they said change my bois setting from enhabce to some thing else but i have no such option
[12:32] <MindVirus> gothenburg: Which mixer?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: if you run: sudo lshw -C disk    do you see the optical drives?
[12:33] <sheldon> I do have entries from 'list hardware' but no entries in fstab...  Background....  both drives were working properly before the upgrade, i tweaked for a while trying to get it to work.  Failed.  Did a clean install of 10.04...
[12:33] <wajiema> let me check
[12:33] <_Narc_> erUSUL: "Cannot set new settings: Invalid argument not setting speed not setting duplex not setting autoneg" - I tried with another router, D-link, same speed.
[12:33] <gothenburg> MindVirus: alsamixer or some gui frontend?
[12:33] <sheldon>      configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=6480223a
[12:33] <sheldon>   *-cdrom:0
[12:33] <sheldon>        description: DVD-RAM writer
[12:33] <sheldon>        physical id: 0.0.0
[12:33] <sheldon>        bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
[12:33] <FloodBot3> sheldon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <sheldon>        logical name: /dev/cdrom1
[12:33] <Giblet> hey can anyone help me with a sound issue, was working yesterday, but today getting no sound
[12:34] <wajiema> no jut get my 2 HD's
[12:34] <MindVirus> gothenburg: I just asked you if you were talking about alsamixer and you said sort of.
[12:34] <wajiema> i know it works cause it work when i had windows up
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: if you reboot then run: dmesg | less    see if the devices are seen at bootup
[12:34] <gothenburg> MindVirus: alsamixer is TUI and there are some gui frontends of it
[12:35] <wajiema> how do i get to the term before boot up
[12:35] <Giblet> hello anyone or am i just being ignored
[12:35] <MindVirus> gothenburg: ...
[12:35] <riyonuk> Hiya guys! How would I go about getting this dock?(: http://thevalrog.deviantart.com/art/small-suites-143928158
[12:35] <MindVirus> gothenburg: I said I used alsamixer.
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: no, you run dmesg after you login
[12:35] <wajiema> ca't i run it now
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> Giblet:  sound issues can be very hard to trouble shoot.
[12:36] <wajiema> i have not changed anything
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Giblet:  and ive no experience with trouble shooting them.
[12:36] <gothenburg> MindVirus: ok
[12:36] <Giblet> oh ok
[12:36] <Giblet> its just that, sound was working and now it aint
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Giblet:  if there was a kernel update yesterday, try booting a older kernel from the menus.
[12:36] <ania> abybody familiar with irssi??
[12:36] <odt> so building the latest ati drivers fails on lucidlynx, any suggestions?  sh ./ati-driver-installer-10-5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/lucid
[12:37] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: are you in Ubuntu now?
[12:37] <Giblet> updated it yesterday, just before i installed ubuntu 10.4, sound was fine, now its not playing
[12:37] <wajiema> yes'
[12:37] <erebus> Giblet, I know this may sound simplistic but occasionally a program on mine will jte the sounds in the system settings and I just have to unmute it again
[12:37] <erUSUL> !anyone | ania
[12:37] <erebus> jte=mut
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> ania:  irssi has some  very good docs at the irssi homepage. but these days I perfer WeeChat to Irssi.
[12:37] <erebus> mute
[12:37] <wajiema> i used netbootin to install cause the live cd said no comon CD-rom found
[12:37] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: okay then if you go to a terminal and type in dmesg it will come back with the info ActionParsnip is asking for
[12:37] <wajiema> acually it was the alt insall
[12:37] <Giblet> its not muted thats the thing :/
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> wajiema:  you used unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive? or used unetbootin to install to the hard drive directly?
[12:38] <wajiema> hd direct
[12:38] <baskak> loopidity: yes, i did, and frankly i'm not interested. i also *think*, that compiz did work with gnome on my machine previously
[12:38] <nUboon2Age> Dr_Willis: I think he did the later
[12:38] <sheldon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/448670/plain/
[12:38] <ania> how to switch off in irssi ....this messege when people are coming on and off this channel ( saying ip whois etc)??
[12:38] <sheldon> that pastebin is cool!!!
[12:38] <erUSUL> !quietirssi
[12:38] <erUSUL> ania: ^
[12:38] <wajiema> action do u want to paste the output in here or PM u
[12:39] <Giblet> theres a device in output which is dummy, but theres no device in input
[12:39] <loopidity> baskak  dude, keep trying the channel, I am sure somedy able will be able to help you
[12:39] <loopidity> and keep trying
[12:39] <wajiema> i got info u want it here or in a pm
[12:39] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: you can use past.ubuntu.com unless you can pick out the individual relevant lines
[12:39] <ania> thx very much !
[12:40] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: sorry, paste.ubuntu.com
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: ok so in /etc/fstab you will have 2 entries. One for /dev/scd0 and one for /dev/scd1  (or /dev/sr0 and /sr1)
[12:40] <oCean_> wajiema: people don't know that you are talking to them if you don't mention their nickname
[12:40] <baskak> loopidity: thanks, i will
[12:40] <wajiema> sry not noob but don't know waht that is pls explain
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: you can use the app pastebinit to pastebin from cli ;)
[12:40] <nUboon2Age> !pastebin
[12:41] <sheldon> fstab has no entries for the cd drives... all automount.
[12:41] <wajiema> nuboon2age can u pls explain link
[12:41] <wajiema> nUboon2Age, pls explain
[12:41] <sheldon> actually, my fstab since the fresh install is totally clean except for / and swap.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: thats why then ;)
[12:42] <wajiema> ActionParsnip, i got the results of the dsmeg
[12:42] <calamity> hi all.
[12:42] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: if you go to that first link you can just paste all the lines from dmesg into it.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: run: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab    add these 2 lines:
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[12:42] <calamity> I was wondering if anyone could help me bless a linux partition on a macbook 4.1?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[12:42] <sheldon> i commented them out before the fresh install and the problem was the same.   I can still mount a disk for a little while.
[12:42] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: that way you won't violate the multi-line 'flooding' thing.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: save the new file then run: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom0; sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1
[12:43] <wajiema> kk did
[12:43] <calamity> I believe you usually do it with a mac install cd, but i don't have one anymore so I'm kinda stuck.
[12:43] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: and then give the URL to where you pasted it
[12:43] <Giblet> is anyone good with sound issues in linux
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> !mac
[12:43] <wajiema> see i'm bran new top thid IRC thing just starting out
[12:43] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: me too
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> hmm, not useful
[12:44] <Giblet> i have no hardware, that might be the issue
[12:44] <sheldon> I will add the lines and give it a whirl... maybe something changed since the new install...
[12:44] <wajiema> http://paste.ubuntu.com/448676/
[12:44] <calamity> Nope :(
[12:44] <wajiema> like so righrt
[12:44] <wajiema> how do i get red text
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> calamity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[12:44] <Brazzer> how can i ssh from ubuntu to a windows machine?
[12:44] <Brazzer> or can i not do it?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Brazzer: there is an openssh server you can install on windows
[12:44] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: you get red text in irc when someone puts your name into their line, like I just did w/ you.
[12:45] <Holbewoner> join #uva
[12:45] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: but no one else sees it as red. only the person(s) named.
[12:45] <Brazzer> ActionParsnip:
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Brazzer: http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/
[12:45] <muyox> anyone here uses Terminator? is it possible to set the starting size of the terminator window?
[12:45] <calamity> ActionParsnip: thanks, but that doesn't seem to cover bless.
[12:46] <Brazzer> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:46] <nUboon2Age> ActionParsnip: wajiema 's dmesg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/448676/
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> muyox: you can use the --geometry option
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> nUboon2Age: it's not his/her dmesg, its just the url of the pastebin :)
[12:46] <newtoqt> Anyone can answer why ubuntu themes are usually "dark" (especially the default themes) and with high contrast? Isn't those kind of themes not accessible*.
[12:47] <muyox> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: run this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> muyox: http://www.tenshu.net/wp-content/uploads/terminator.html
[12:47] <aeon-ltd> muyox: never used it, but if it reads Xdefaults you can add "(whatever the correct reference to terminator is)*geometry: XxY"
[12:47] <nUboon2Age> ActionParsnip: oops. :)
[12:47] <wajiema> is it gonna kill my cpu LOL
[12:47] <wajiema> it causes fires
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: not at all
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: its a much lighter process than the OS you are running
[12:48] <gothenburg> Windows<3
[12:48] <nUboon2Age> ActionParsnip: or at least the OTHER OS he's running. :-)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> nUboon2Age: possibly ;)
[12:49] <noo> hey i just installed ubuntu on my notebook and for some reason the camera isn't working. Can anybody help me? Shall I put some helpful output?
[12:49] <dartt> i m reciceving gpg key error while updating....how to solve???
[12:49] <wajiema> well im runnin ubuntu 10 right now
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> dartt: well do you have the key?
[12:49] <dartt> ya
[12:50] <sheldon> ActionParsnip:  No dice bro...
[12:50] <dartt> smone gave me commnad but i forgot
[12:50] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: one trick in many irc clients is if you just type the first few letters of a name and then hit tab the client will fill in the rest of the name.
[12:50] <wajiema> ActionParsnip, i got it installed
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: try a reboot, you can see how the lines must relate to one of the device names in the lshw output though right?
[12:51] <wajiema> what IRC u usein
[12:51] <calamity> Has anyone had any success with efibootmgr?
[12:51] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: that way you don't have to keep typing the names in. (in case you didn't know).
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: ok then run: dmesg | pastebinnit
[12:51] <dartt> can smone give me the commnad to correct gpg key error
[12:51] <sheldon> yes.  I will give it a try... the drives will mount once after the reboot...  I will check back in a couple of minutes....  thanks for the help.
[12:51] <aeon-ltd> dartt: try updating, if youu got the key from aptitude
[12:51] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: I'm using Konversation.  I like it because I can understand it.  I couldn't figure out the others.  They were either too simple or too complex.
[12:52] <aeon-ltd> dartt: can you update?, is it just one package that uses the key?
[12:52] <aeon-ltd> dartt: can you update?, is it just one package that uses the key?
[12:52] <gothenburg> :D
[12:52] <dartt> umm now the error is gone...i dunno wats happening
[12:52] <catnap> the grub/menu.lst file doesn't exist - should I create a new one?
[12:52] <catnap> grub is installed, but I cannot find the menu file
[12:53] <peternickson1> Can anyone help with wireless internet connection issues?  I have just bought a netbook, loaded edubuntu and no wireless networking options are available at all.
[12:53] <bricky> does miro support downloading flv video from your own favorite sites? :O
[12:53] <catnap> peternickson1: wireles nic may not be supported - check supported hardware
[12:53] <wajiema> Action too many NN's
[12:53] <aeon-ltd> catnap: its been replaced in grub2 by grub.cfg
[12:54] <slav> hi
[12:54] <nUboon2Age> !wireless | peternickson1
[12:54] <aeon-ltd> !hi
[12:54] <slav> !hi
[12:54] <Giblet> Anyone
[12:54] <Giblet> help me
[12:55] <bazhang> bricky, there is a firefox extension for that
[12:55] <Giblet> with sound issue, getting no sound, but sound driver detected when running alsamixer
[12:55] <bricky> peternickson: type in ln           lspci           in terminal see if your nic shows
[12:55] <thrope> hi - how do you burn iso image in 10.04... the right click write to dic menu item seems to be missing
[12:55] <kubanc> how can i see the location of a mounted mobile phone in terminal?
[12:55] <bricky> bazhang: hmm, okay, any particular one better than others
[12:56] <bricky> or is there only one?
[12:56] <catnap> aeon-ltd: thanks
[12:56] <bazhang> bricky, its called downloadhelper
[12:56] <peternickson1> lspci | grep Network gives the name of the Network Controller
[12:56] <nUboon2Age> ! sound | Giblet
[12:58] <gothenburg> lol
[12:58] <nUboon2Age> peternickson1: for wireless it might be listed under something besides 'Network'.  you can guess w/ something like
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  try http://www.downloadhelper.net/
[12:59] <nUboon2Age> peternickson1: lspci | grep wireless or just lspci and manually look through it to find the right line.
[12:59] <peternickson1> thanks.  network controller showing.  Just can't get wireless on (there is no wireless switch on the side of the netbook incase someone asks)
[12:59] <catnap> I cannot modify grub.cfg even if I'm superuser
[12:59] <ania> o
[12:59] <noo> hey somehow my computer "knows" my cam but he doesnt use it in skype could anybody please help me?
[13:00] <peternickson1> lspci | grep wireless gives nothing
[13:00] <nUboon2Age> peternickson1: so let us know once you've found the wireless adapter line.
[13:00] <Ellement>  i cant connect to mysql database on network. mysql db on ubuntu, requesting from a mac. any ideas?
[13:00] <thrope> any one have an idea why I dont have a write-to-disc context menu item for iso images after upgrade to 10.04?
[13:00] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: where are you at?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> thrope:  perhaps a pacakge that supplies it dident get installed..
[13:01] <peternickson1> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4727 (rev 01)
[13:01] <sheldon> [  503.963288] Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 59463
[13:01] <sheldon> [  503.963292] Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 59464
[13:01] <bricky> peternickson1: I can help
[13:01] <bricky> I have the same problem
[13:01] <peternickson1> bricky: thanks
[13:01] <nUboon2Age> peternickson1: I just tried it on mine and I should have said: lspci | grep Wireless
[13:01] <Helloer> Hi, why nc –l –p 1234 dont work? i get usage: nc [-46DdhklnrStUuvzC] [-i interval] [-P proxy_username] [-p source_port]
[13:01] <Helloer>           [-s source_ip_address] [-T ToS] [-w timeout] [-X proxy_protocol]
[13:01] <Helloer>           [-x proxy_address[:port]] [hostname] [port[s]]
[13:02] <bricky> but mine is not working no matter what I do, I am curious if yours will work, maybe your in luck
[13:02] <nUboon2Age> peternickson1: capitalizing the W in Wireless worked for me.
[13:02] <bricky> nUboon2Age: what does | grep    do
[13:02] <peternickson1> nUboon2Age: just tried that and I still get nothing
[13:02] <bricky> peternickson1: I have like 10 bookmarks let me see here..
[13:03] <peternickson1> bricky: thanks
[13:03] <bricky> hols on
[13:03] <bricky> hols
[13:03] <bricky> hold
[13:03] <peternickson1> nUboon2Age: just tried it with sudo lspci as well incase something was hidden.  Nothing listed
[13:03] <nUboon2Age> bricky: it finds any lines with the words fed it.  So | grep Wireless would find a line w/ Wireless in it
[13:04] <robin0800> peternickson1: is wireless card enabled?
[13:04] <nUboon2Age> peternickson1: well, how about just doing lspci and hunting through it for a second network adapter entry?
[13:04] <bricky> sorry that was weird had to restart my pc to get firefox goin
[13:05] <nUboon2Age> peternickson1: as robin0800 asked, its possible its not 'seeing' an adapter in Ubuntu, but check out the lspci output first.
[13:05] <Giblet> whats th best thing to do then
[13:05] <robin0800> nUboon2Age: if the wireless card is off don't think lspci can see it
[13:05] <Giblet> reinstall ubuntu 10.04 or get a different
[13:06] <bricky> peternickson1: just do 'lspci' it should show 'broadcom'
[13:06] <nUboon2Age> robin0800: peternickson1 mentioned he doesn't have an on/off hardware button though
[13:06] <salem> I need help setting up my audio on edubuntu
[13:07] <lostinspace_46> I am dual booting Win 7 and Lucid.  For some reason, using the same volume settings on the app, speaker voume, and physical speakers, the sound in Lucid is much lower.  Anyone know why this might be?
[13:07] <nUboon2Age> bricky: the broadcom he mentioned already wasn't the wireless I don't think.
[13:07] <Giblet> anyone know how to open pulse audio
[13:07] <bricky> I thought he said it was? my bad then :)
[13:07] <salem> the system apparently detects the sound device etc, but there is no sound
[13:08] <salem> trhere is a speaker icon which I can use to raise the volume etc but no use, no sound is coming out
[13:08] <bricky> mines not working i did everything humanly possible its stupid since it worked from wubi
[13:08] <Giblet> I'm having the same problem with the sound
[13:08] <salem> can anyone help me with this?
[13:08] <salem> strange, are we all having the same problem here?
[13:09] <salem> if so, then most probably there isn't a solution to it yet?
[13:09] <peternickson> Just tried lspci -v | less, and I get an ethernet controller and a network controller
[13:09] <peternickson> Should wireless controler be there too
[13:09] <Giblet> i think so, my audio device is being detected. tryed everything on google, but that does not help
[13:09] <nUboon2Age> salem: Giblet: well two are anyway.  Just because the folks right here right now don't know the answer right away doesn't say that it hasn't been solved yet.
[13:10] <salem> yes, I added the option line to module.d/alsabase file but no luck
[13:10] <Giblet> must be an issue with the ubuntu 10.04 ?
[13:10] <nUboon2Age> ! sound | salem Giblet
[13:10] <salem> nUboon2Age, fair enough, I thought it is a bit of a coincidence that we both have the same problem
[13:10] <Giblet> well brricky has the same problem to
[13:11] <nUboon2Age> salem: maybe you'll be able to help each other figure it out.
[13:11] <Giblet> the sound was fine yesterday
[13:11] <nUboon2Age> Giblet: okay three people.  Maybe you'll be able to put your heads together and figure it out.
[13:11] <Giblet> now all of a sudden nothing
[13:12] <Giblet> well looks like we have all bin on google trying to sort it out but aint getting no where
[13:12] <kubanc> where do i see my location of a moiunted mobile phone via bluetooth fila manager blueman 0.5
[13:12] <salem> well, in windows the sound card is working fine, and only in ubuntu it isn't working...
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Giblet: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[13:12] <nUboon2Age> Giblet: did you make a configuration change (maybe edit a configuration file for some other reason)?
[13:12] <MasterZuFu> Can someone please tell me how to figure out what time my ubuntu 10.04 server is running at? #ubuntu-server isn't responding to my question.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Giblet: then press ALT+F2 and type: pulseaudio   may help
[13:13] <salem> In windows the sound device is SoundMaz Integrated Sound Device
[13:13] <Slart> MasterZuFu: running "date" in a terminal?
[13:13] <Slart> MasterZuFu: or you mean the current timezone?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> MasterZuFu: how do you mean "what time"  do you want the system time, or do you want up time?
[13:13] <salem> Sorrry, SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio
[13:13] <MasterZuFu> i want the system time
[13:13] <nUboon2Age> wajiema: I have to go now.  I hope you'll follow up w/ ActionParsnip and others here.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> MasterZuFu: then run: time    will tell you the time
[13:13] <MasterZuFu> and I need to figure out how to change that time
[13:13] <linis> kubanc: /media
[13:14] <salem> but ubuntu sees it as intel
[13:14] <salem> not sure if its correct
[13:14] <Slart> ActionParsnip: time is used to time running time of a program.. date is the command you're looking for
[13:14] <MasterZuFu> I ran date, it's not the time I'm wanting my server to be set at
[13:14] <MasterZuFu> however
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> MasterZuFu: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5   shows how there ;)
[13:14] <MasterZuFu> i'm on the other side of the world from my server
[13:14] <MasterZuFu> so should i leave it at that time zone's time?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Slart: yeah, just grabbed the gentoo handbook, shows how to do it there :)
[13:15] <Giblet> one minute
[13:15] <Slart> MasterZuFu: you can use "date" to set the time as well.. but I would setup a ntp-server
[13:15] <MasterZuFu> ok
[13:15] <MasterZuFu> thanks guys
[13:15] <Slart> ActionParsnip: =)
[13:15] <Giblet> ive typed killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse* seems like its doing nothing
[13:15] <Giblet> in alt f2
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Giblet: it deletes the config for pulse, you then need to rerun pulse
[13:16] <Giblet> how do i rerun it ? sorry not good with linux at all
[13:16] <nUboon2Age> peternickson: I have to go now, but give the specifics of what it says so others can help.
[13:17] <aeon-ltd> Giblet: use a terminal, if it refuses to run it use sudo
[13:17] <peternickson> cheers.  Just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 so I'll give that a try
[13:17] <Giblet> type what in terminal?
[13:18] <aeon-ltd> Giblet: the command, "killall pulseaudop; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Giblet: type: pulseaudio     like I said earlier
[13:18] <Helloer> Hi, why nc –l –p 1234 dont work? i get usage: nc [-46DdhklnrStUuvzC](...)?
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Helloer:  are youi confuseing a Letter L with the Number 1 ?
[13:19] <Giblet> Daemon already running
[13:19] <nUboon2Age> peternickson: best of luck.  Here's my howto for Broadcom wireless.  may or may/not help: http://tinyurl.com/2angqpz
[13:19] <Slart> Helloer: from the man page... -p source port specifies bla bla bla. It is an error to use this option in conjuction with the -l option
[13:21] <Giblet> this is doing my head in  :/
[13:21] <kenpark> Hi. I have an external usb drive. Which file system is the fastest to work with ubuntu? ext3?
[13:21] <Slart> Helloer: I think -p is used when you're doing outbound connections.. -l is for listening.. if you want to specify a listening port you do it like    nc -l some_ip_address some_port
[13:22] <bazhang> kenpark, will it be shared with windows?
[13:22] <Giblet> tried to type pulse audio in alt f2 nothing comes up... great
[13:22] <bazhang> Giblet, it is one word
[13:22] <kenpark> bazhang: no, its an external drive attached to my homes music server. I read xfs is good too?
[13:23] <Giblet> i know, i typed it like that in alt  f2 but still nothing
[13:23] <kenpark> bazhang: (well apparently in 2006 :-D )
[13:23] <bazhang> kenpark, ext3 or ext4 would be fine
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> kenpark:  for external usb - the usb is going to be the limniting factor. not the Filesystem.  ext3/4 would be fine.
[13:24] <kenpark> Dr_Willis: yeah thats right i am afraid :D going with ext then
[13:24] <kenpark> Thanks bazhang, Dr_Willis
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> kenpark:  you are not going to be moveing it from one linux box to another are you? or to windows machines?
[13:25] <energyshot> Jest tu może jakiś polak ?
[13:25] <energyshot> mam problem z X serverem ;)
[13:25] <odt> how do i make a specific application, like rhythmbox use a different output device sound than the default?
[13:25] <bazhang> !pl | energyshot
[13:25] <energyshot> !pl
[13:26] <bazhang> energyshot, /join #ubuntu-pl
[13:26] <Slart> odt: you can run it and then bring up the pulseaudio volume control and change the output device.. that will be remembered for future runs
[13:26] <energyshot> bazhang , sorry and thanks :)
[13:26] <Giblet> think ill have to re install, not 10.04 anyone know of a good linux os?
[13:26] <odt> Slart: what's pulseaudio?
[13:26] <Slart> odt: I suppose there has to be some kind of database somewhere for this data but I haven't seen anything that lets you edit it
[13:26] <Guest33019> BG
[13:27] <bazhang> Giblet, try in ##linux  , this is ubuntu support only
[13:27] <Bear10> can squid be setup to use a vpn?
[13:28] <Slart> odt: pulseaudio is a layer on top of alsa (alsa is what talks to the actual hardware).. think of it as a dj if alsa is the turntable.. pulseaudio lets you for example have several sound cards and start playing sound through one card and then move it to another card.. or play audio on another computer over the network.. amongst other things
[13:28] <Giblet> after the update and restarting it, there aint no sound seems like many people are having this issue, i have nothing under hardware, nothing under input but i have dummy output
[13:28] <xue> which os did the big company use the most?
[13:28] <xue> which os did the big company use the most?
[13:29] <Sazpaimon> so I can't get any sound working
[13:29] <Sazpaimon> I've tried both front and back ports, nothing
[13:29] <bazhang> !ot | xue
[13:29] <G_G> Hi friends!
[13:30] <Sazpaimon> http://pastebin.com/s8vwStCR here is my aplay -l output
[13:30] <aeon-ltd> !hi | G_G
[13:30] <Sazpaimon> I'm really only using the speaker/headphone ports at the moment, so I guess that's ALC1200 analog
[13:31] <Drags111> Anyone know a lot about the bootloader and problems that lie there?
[13:31] <bazhang> Drags111, grub2?
[13:31] <lukas_> i need help! how to i formay ubunto 10.4?
[13:31] <Drags111> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507731
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> lukas_:  clarify the question.
[13:32] <bazhang> Drags111, read the grub2 wiki yet?
[13:32] <Drags111> My windows won't boot and neither will Ubuntu
[13:32] <Drags111> and no bazhang
[13:32] <aeon-ltd> lukas_: you mean format?, well you don't a partition manager does
[13:32] <wajiema> STILL NO LUCK
[13:32] <kenpark> Dr_Willis: No its basically just a way to extend the space on this small laptop.
[13:32] <bazhang> !grub2 | Drags111 please read this
[13:32] <lukas_> well i want to get rid of ubuntu becouse i cant work with it i tryed to install xp from the cd disk but i wont work
[13:33] <lukas_> it
[13:33] <wajiema> I GIVE UP
[13:33] <syngress> hello
[13:33] <arand> !hi | syngress
[13:33] <IDLucas> quit
[13:33] <aeon-ltd> lukas_: use a gparted livecd, format it the way you want, e.g if you just want xp - delete every other partition and create a new one in ntfs
[13:34] <wajiema> found a problem no one cn cure  woot go me
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> lukas_:  use a partioniong tool to delete teh linux parittions if you dont want it any more and let xp repartition the disk
[13:34] <mickster04> well done wajiema
[13:34] <wajiema> ty
[13:34] <aeon-ltd> wajiema: whats the problem
[13:35] <lukas_> u mean something like dban?
[13:35] <wajiema> kk i installed ubuntu 10.** with netbuttin cause the inatller caould not reconize my CD-rom now im stuck with ubuntu wwith noCD rom
[13:35] <Sazpaimon> nevermind, my headphones are apparently broken now, that was the issue :/
[13:35] <bazhang> lukas_, gparted live cd
[13:35] <wajiema> tried alot of things with no sucess
[13:36] <wajiema> like changeing boot option
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: try other boot options
[13:36] <wajiema> tred that
[13:36] <lukas_> how do i get a qparted live cd?
[13:36] <syngress> can someone know where i can find in log file comunicates when my ubuntu system startup ?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> wajiema: there are countless boot options
[13:36] <aeon-ltd> lukas_: download it, burn it, use it
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> syngress: dmesg | less
[13:36] <bazhang> lukas_, there is a link at distrowatch.com  its 60MB iso
[13:36] <wajiema> and even went as far as disconnecting drives disabling drives
[13:36] <aeon-ltd> wajiema: you mean your cd drive is basically dead, bios won't boot from it?
[13:36] <lukas_> thank you
[13:36] <wajiema> give me an examble
[13:37] <mickster04> wajiema: do u have a windows install on that mahine?and does that recognise the drive?
[13:37] <wajiema> no bois will boot from it and Mandriva/ BT4/ and Fedora will reconize just not ubuntu
[13:37] <sapersi> what files can i keep from my windows os, when implementing ubuntu
[13:37] <wajiema> oh yeah and win will reconize
[13:37] <aeon-ltd> wajiema: nautilus sees nothing?
[13:37] <sapersi> installing...who says implementing
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> sapersi:  clarify what you mean?  You can keep all of them if you wanted to...
[13:38] <bazhang> wajiema, there are 4 systems on that netbook?
[13:38] <sapersi> they would execute correclty though i changes OS's?
[13:38] <sapersi> correctly
[13:38] <wajiema> no desktop
[13:38] <Drags111> bazhang, do i do this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Dual-booting
[13:38] <sheldon> Hi Everyone...  I am having a hell of a time with my CD/DVD burner.  I can mount disks, but they won't stay mounted.  Getting tons of Buffer I/O errors.  Both drives are identical and worked perfectly before the 10.04 upgrade...
[13:39] <wajiema> my problem is that i cn not change my SATA option in my bios
[13:39] <bazhang> wajiema, you said you had installed using unetbootin, did you not?
[13:39] <wajiema> yes sir
[13:39] <Drags111> bazhang, i mean that wiki isnt really helping me
[13:39] <wajiema> cause the live cd would not reconize my CD/dvd
[13:39] <mondin> hi there
[13:40] <lukas_> what does gparted live cd?
[13:40] <wajiema> am i that one in a billion
[13:40] <wajiema> starting to thimk so
[13:40] <bazhang> lukas_, you boot from it, then format the partitions you wish
[13:40] <nicofs> hi there. i can't access my internal cardreader (Acer aspire One 531) or the card therein. can someone help?
[13:40] <vinnie_> is there a lottery program for linux?
[13:41] <ikonia> nicofs: have you checked if it's supported
[13:41] <kenpark> bazhang: Shouldn't lukas_ be able to boot from the windows xp cd and just be fine?
[13:41] <wajiema> \
[13:41] <Slart> vinnie_: lottery program?
[13:41] <bazhang> kenpark, he said it did not work
[13:41] <Slart> vinnie_: you'll have to explain that one a bit
[13:41] <kenpark> bazhang: Wouldn't that mean that the cd is not bootable?
[13:41] <Lcawte> um.. I need some help.. I tried installing PCLinuxOS on my machine, that already had ubuntu on.. I rebooted it and started getting grub errors, so I live CD'd back onto PCLinux.. and then I deleted the partition.. is there any chance I wrote over my ubuntu?
[13:41] <wajiema> all i got to sa wish i had a back up
[13:41] <lukas_> thats the problem i can't boot from the windows xp cd
[13:41] <aeon-ltd> kenpark: yeah, it won't recognise the ext partitions, it can delete all and start again though
[13:42] <kenpark> aeon-ltd: given that windows is still installed.
[13:42] <ikonia> Lcawte: only you can tell what you actually did
[13:42] <nicofs> @ikonia: i don't even know the manufacturer... i'll check...
[13:42] <ikonia> lukas_: only you can tell what you did
[13:42] <ikonia> oops
[13:42] <wajiema> or a win 7 CD since i can not brun one from ubuntu cause I HAVE NO DVD SUPORT
[13:42] <vinnie_> Slart: something similar to lottery pro foe windows. It uses statistics to pick lottery numbers for you and can print bet slips.
[13:43] <lukas_> ubuntu and removed xpwell i installed linux
[13:43] <lukas_> i installed ubuntu and removed xp
[13:44] <wajiema> I just give up i know thats not the linux way but tommarow i will find a way to xfer my win 7 DVD to my girls computer to bur so i can play wow aain
[13:44] <Lcawte> ikonia: um.. well.. I deleted a partition I thought I had left aside just for PCLinux.. and now my ubunbtu is missing..
[13:44] <kenpark> lukas_: Are you sure your windwos cd is bootable?
[13:44] <Slart> vinnie_: hmm.. no, I don't think I've seen anything like that.. and I've got a vague feeling that those apps are really using statistics to make people buy their program.. if it worked they could use it themselves to get rich and not have to write software
[13:44] <sheldon> anyone feel like taking a stab at this mounting issue???
[13:44] <kenpark> wajiema: What hardware are you using?
[13:45] <lukas_> i dont know, but i get blue screen when i try to install XP
[13:45] <vinnie_> Slart: thanx
[13:45] <ikonia> Lcawte: then you've probably overwrote it, however only you will know
[13:45] <syngress> ActionParsnip, when my system start up i have something like this "ureadahead main process " i try to found it in dmsg but no result.
[13:45] <kenpark> lukas_: Thats the install screen?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> syngress:  ive noticed some messages about ureadhead also.. they dont affect the system.
[13:45] <Slart> vinnie_: you might want to try using Wine as well.. those lottery programs seem like regular windows gui stuff.. should work without any problems
[13:45] <wajiema> i got 1 sata HDD 1 IDE HDD and 1 DVD-ROM IDE
[13:45] <syngress> ActionParsnip, system is stable but i try to know why this comunicate showing up
[13:45] <Slart> !wine | vinnie_
[13:45] <lukas_> no i mean after doing those steps after i spress enter i get blue screen
[13:46] <wajiema> and ubuntu will not reconize mt dvd rom
[13:46] <kenpark> wajiema: I noticed, but there must be a manufacturer of your hardware.
[13:46] <aeon-ltd> pikachu....
[13:46] <kenpark> !enter | wajiema
[13:46] <lukas_> and i have to restart the computer
[13:46] <wajiema> wich one u want it's a custom amde by me
[13:46] <vinnie_> Slart: i tried to use wine but the program didnt open. so im running it in virtual box, until I find a linux equivelent
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> syngress: its the readahead feature in ubuntu to get data of slow HDDs faster
[13:46] <wajiema> ubottu shut up
[13:46] <syngress> Dr_Willis, yes system is stable - what is his that ureadahead ??
[13:46] <kenpark> lukas_: During the install steps have you created new partitions?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> wajiema:  as a test - You could unplug the ide hd. and see if the system  sees the optcail disk then.  Unless of course thats the one you are booting from
[13:47] <bazhang> wajiema, that is not called for
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> syngress:  somthing to speed up booting i thuink
[13:47] <lukas_> no i don't think so
[13:47] <Slart> vinnie_: you can always make sure that the error is reported in the wine application database
[13:47] <wajiema> no DR i tried that no sucsess
[13:47] <dartt> mone help me plz....i m sharing file on ethernet lan network...but i m getting transfer speed of 120kbps only when the ethernet is of 100mbps capacity...i m using samba and nfs to transfer...help me
[13:47] <etpace> How can I change the keybindings for gnome terminal? It currently has alt+1/etc to change terminals but I want to use those binds for irssi, any ideas?
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> syngress:  ive noticed on a few updates a messabe about how it will get redone on next boot..
[13:47] <lukas_> but now the XP cd key wont start booting
[13:47] <lukas_> it just gets black and i have to restart the computer
[13:47] <kenpark> lukas_: There is a screen where you can do that during the windows xp installation.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> dartt: 100 megabits, not megabytes (sidenote)
[13:48] <wajiema> wel ben here for hours lookin for answeres and i've had many ppl tell me that this is IRC and more that one line can use more that 1 line
[13:48] <vinnie_> Slart: thanks. ill check it out
[13:48] <syngress> Dr_Willis, well i make update recently, but comunicate still show;s up
[13:48] <dartt> ya ok...can u help me...coz i need to transfer 20gb data
[13:48] <wajiema> just lookin for anseres
[13:48] <syngress> Dr_Willis, i use EEEPC 1005HA
[13:49] <lukas_> yes but i cant start the xp installation, i put in the cd restart computer but it just wont start i just gets black
[13:49] <kenpark> lukas_: Other than that I would suggest asking in ##windows. Its really a problem with the windows xp installer.
[13:49] <dartt> anyone know why filesharing through samba is incedibly slow on LAN?????????
[13:49] <nubby1> korea > greece
[13:49] <Lcawte> ikonia: anyway I can revert my disk to like an hour ago or something? :P
[13:49] <wajiema> wow in got kids
[13:49] <kenpark> wajiema: Its really hard to help you because I keep missing parts of what you say.
[13:49] <ikonia> Lcawte: no
[13:50] <wajiema> can i IM u8 and let u know
[13:50] <lukas_> okey, if i just want to remove ubuntu what do i do?
[13:50] <bazhang> lukas_, gparted live cd
[13:50] <dartt> my lan transfer speed on network is very very slow....is there a way to increase?
[13:51] <sheldon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/448700/plain/
[13:51] <lukas_> do you have a direct download link?
[13:51] <kenpark> !patient | dartt
[13:51] <bazhang> lukas_, check distrowatch.com
[13:51] <dartt> ?
[13:51] <nicofs> i have got an integrated umts modem. is there an application to make phone calls (i searched synaptic and only found VoIP software)
[13:51] <lukas_> i did..
[13:52] <Slart> dartt: there are some tools that can measure network speed without the the extra layer of ftp, sambe, nfs or something like that.. try those first.. if they are still slow you need to look at the hardware and drivers.. if that is fast then you know you need to look at the next layer.. ie samba, nfs, ftp or whatever you're using
[13:52] <alket> is there any lightweight email client ?
[13:52] <emma> lukas_: the first thing to do is reconsider.
[13:52] <dartt> Slart: can u plz tell me how to do that
[13:52] <bazhang> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gparted lukas_ there you are
[13:52] <rallias> I have an issue. Every time I leave my computer downloading something for an extended period of time to use a different computer, my wireless connection disconnects and I have to go through a few hoops to get it back. How do i prevent this?
[13:53] <Slart> dartt: samba has a lot of settings and tweaks you can try.. I don't know of any generic "good settings" but there are lots of resources out there on the web
[13:53] <lukas_> thank you!
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> rallias: when its dropped run: dmesg | tail -n 15   it may give clues
[13:53] <Slart> dartt: ok.. you've got two computers on the network running ubuntu?
[13:53] <sheldon> I have not been able to keep an optical disk mounted since upgrading to 10.04//
[13:53] <dartt> Slart: no one win xp....n my comp is having lucid installed
[13:54] <Slart> dartt: ok.. let me search a bit for some software you can use.. I'll be back
[13:54] <dartt> Slart: ok thanx
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: is it ok in Karmic?
[13:54] <yohann> h2L
[13:54] <sheldon> yes.  well, it was.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sheldon: then reinstall Karmic and log a regression bug
[13:55] <mjr69> anyone out there who might know how to get my ati radeon 9600 RV350 to work and get compiz going? Compiz-check says: Renedering method = None.
[13:55] <sheldon> ActionParsnip, I tried several iterations of fstab entries with no luck.
[13:55] <haxxorz321> does anybody here know how to run the official Id software linux ports of doom?
[13:55] <Henry78> Hi, I need help removing a ppa from cache (it's still listes by apt-cache despite removing ppa from sources.list and doing an apt-get clean)
[13:55] <livingdaylight> hello people of Ubuntu land!
[13:56] <kenpark> !hi | livingdaylight
[13:56] <kenpark> Henry78: apt-cache gencaches
[13:56] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how to edit my listings under Places?
[13:56] <Henry78> kenpark: tried it already
[13:57] <mjr69> any Lucid ATI radeon specialists out there?
[13:57] <livingdaylight> I want to remove one of the entries under Places
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  one you added? or one of the defaults?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: drag folders to the left panel in nautilus
[13:57] <haxxorz321> i reealy want to know how to run the official Id software linux port of Doom in ubuntu.
[13:57] <haxxorz321> "linuxsdoom"
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> haxxorz321:  doom 1 2 3 ? 4 ?
[13:57] <ikonia> haxxorz321: that's quite well documented, what part ar eyou not clear on ?
[13:57] <haxxorz321> 1
[13:58] <haxxorz321> fpt.idsoftware.com
[13:58] <haxxorz321> ftp, osrry
[13:58] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: one I added. ssh added and bookmarked, but the ifconfig settings have changed making that bookmark obsolete
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> haxxorz321:  the official id port. proberly wont run very well on  many systems. the binary is just too old.
[13:58] <fabz> Sheldon from Hetzner SA?
[13:58] <haxxorz321> yeah
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  open file manager, left side panel that shows the things.. right click on it.. delete/remove
[13:58] <sheldon> fabz, no...
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  theres some other interface to edit them also. right click on places menu perhaps?
[13:58] <fabz> Ok cool, just checking :D
[13:59] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: simple, :p   I was trying to right-click directly from the Places drop-down menu
[13:59] <Slart> dartt: hmm.. I'm trying to find some bandwidth measuring tool that runs on both windows and linux.. still looking
[13:59] <wajiema> so window or ine
[14:00] <albech> why is this not working? echo "aw-bk-01-07-06-2010-full.tar.gz" | sed s/(-[0-9]{2}){3}-[0-9]{4}/*/g
[14:00] <wajiema> wine
[14:00] <haxxorz321> i have another little problem, my screen gets cut off by about like 10 pixels on the left.  when i have a program maximized, i see about 3/4ths of scroll bar on the right
[14:00] <nicofs> is there a phone software to make REAL phone calls via an integrated modem? (NOT VoIP/SIP/skype)
[14:00] <ikonia> albech: what are you expecting that to do
[14:00] <Henry78> Hi, I need help removing a ppa from cache (it's still listes by apt-cache despite removing ppa from sources.list and doing an apt-get clean and ran gencaches)
[14:00] <albech> ikonia, aw-bk*-full.tar.gz
[14:01] <wajiema> i just want to know as long with many ppl who want to install linux why does it come up as CD-ro, not found
[14:01] <ikonia> albech: you're piping it to sed, you're not changing the file name
[14:01] <wajiema> is it a kernal issue or is it a user isse
[14:01] <ikonia> wajiema: very few people will have an issue
[14:01] <ikonia> wajiema: very doubtful it will be a kernel issue
[14:02] <mjr69> Hm, no one interested in ATI Radeons. I carry on without compiz:-(...
[14:02] <wajiema> come on now checko the forums ABOUT cd-rom issue
[14:02] <IdleOne> !ati | mjr69
[14:02] <wajiema> in 10.04
[14:02] <albech> ikonia, i dont want to change the filename.. i just want to use that string for other purposes
[14:02] <ikonia> wajiema: come on what
[14:02] <ikonia> albech: ooh, I see
[14:02] <wajiema> i'm tellin u it a big problem with ppl
[14:03] <ikonia> albech: quote the sed. blah | sed 's/{blah/g'
[14:03] <mjr69> Tanks ubottu
[14:03] <ikonia> wajiema: it's not
[14:03] <haxxorz321> i have a pretty anoying problem, i was once installing yofrankie (a game), and then i had a blackout.  after the blackout, when i turned my machine back on, when i apt-get install things, it doesnt work!  although, wiredly, i can still install sofware in the software center. (sorry for long post)
[14:03] <ikonia> wajiema: lets look at fixing your issue though
[14:03] <wajiema> kk u'll bew the 5th person who has trie
[14:03] <ikonia> wajiema: did you currenty have ubuntu 10.04 installed and working ?
[14:03] <wajiema> d
[14:03] <wajiema> yes
[14:03] <Balgan> haxxorz321, which error do u get in apt?
[14:03] <IdleOne> haxxorz321: try sudo apt-get -f install
[14:03] <ikonia> wajiema: was that installed from cdrom ?
[14:03] <nicofs> is there a phone software to make REAL phone calls via an integrated modem? (NOT VoIP/SIP/skype)
[14:03] <wajiema> istalled through netbootin
[14:04] <ikonia> wajiema: why was that not installed from cd rom ?
[14:04] <wajiema> can we o0pen a dialog
[14:04] <kenpark> wajiema: You need to provide a specific type of your LG drive as long as you don't follow through this is pure trolling.
[14:04] <ikonia> wajiema: no, discuss in the channel
[14:04] <haxxorz321> balgan: (Reading database ... 156136 files and directories currently installed.)
[14:04] <haxxorz321> Removing yofrankie ...
[14:04] <haxxorz321> dpkg: error processing yofrankie (--remove):
[14:04] <haxxorz321>  unable to securely remove '/usr/share/yofrankie-bge/textures/stone_cliff_tile_001_spec.jpg.dpkg-tmp': Input/output error
[14:05] <FloodBot3> haxxorz321: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <wajiema> not sure what LG drive i have but is reconized by windows and has been recoized bu previoues linuxes
[14:05] <ikonia> wajiema: why didn't you install ubuntu from cdrom ?
[14:06] <kenpark> wajiema: You could put in a commercially produced DVD and pastebin dmesg | tail
[14:06] <wajiema> cause i could not it said CD-rom not reconized so i moved to the netbootin
[14:06] <ikonia> wajiema: did it boot the cdrom at all ?
[14:06] <wajiema> we tried that want me to do it again
[14:06] <wajiema> and post
[14:06] <haxxorz321> IdleOne: didnt work
[14:06] <darksifer> wajiema: i wil try to help. Does bios reognise your drive?
[14:06] <wajiema> yes it boot the cd-rom then went to unreconized filesysem
[14:07] <dartt> Slart: hey u found smthing?
[14:07] <Slart> dartt: yup.. I think so.. just a minute more to check on the syntax
[14:07] <IdleOne> haxxorz321: you got that after running apt-get -f install?
[14:07] <Zela> when you make an ssh key does it change the password, lets say i was logging into a shell.
[14:07] <darksifer> wajiema: do you have a spare drive?
[14:07] <dartt> Slart: k...
[14:08] <haxxorz321> IdleOne: yes
[14:08] <wajiema> yes wit hwin 7 on it plus would i say raconizede my dvd-rom perfect  so forth that let me burn this ubuntu
[14:09] <wajiema> sry for grammer not an english speaker
[14:09] <Zela> when you make an ssh key does it change the password? lets say i was logging into a shell. because i did make one for my shell so I wouldnt have to type the long password in but when I made the ssh key , did it delete my old password login to my shell??
[14:09] <Slart> dartt: lets try iperf.. you'll need to install it on your ubuntu box (sudo apt-get install iperf) and on your windows box (
[14:09] <ikonia> wajiema: your English is fine, don't worry
[14:09] <wajiema> kk for the 5th time let me explain my prob
[14:09] <Slart> http://www.noc.ucf.edu/Tools/Iperf/iperf.exe
[14:09] <ikonia> Zela: it will not touch your user account's password
[14:09] <Slart> dartt: no real install on the windows box.. just download it and remember where you put it
[14:10] <Zela> ikonia, Dang, how do I change it then
[14:10] <xerox1> i would like to change the login screen on 9.10; is there a way to do that? the former way seems not to work any longer...
[14:10] <dartt> Slart: k...i try
[14:10] <Zela> ikonia, The password that is
[14:10] <wajiema> i have and dou core PC with win 7 workin fin i decided to install ubnutu 10  could not so i pushed it forward witht he nebootin cause i've use dlinux bewfor
[14:10] <ikonia> Zela: "passwd $username" or from the user admin gui
[14:10] <kenpark> wajiema: As long as you can't answer the specific questions no one will be able to help you.
[14:10] <ikonia> Zela: system->administration->users & groups
[14:10] <IdleOne> haxxorz321: sudo apt-get install --reinstall yofrankie
[14:11] <haxxorz321> ok
[14:11] <IdleOne> haxxorz321: see if that returns any better results
[14:11] <dartt> Slart: k...i installed...now what to do?
[14:11] <wajiema> so i installed grub ion the wring portion and not trying to get ubuntu to recconize my dvd-rom to burn and DVd to fix my boot5
[14:11] <Slart> dartt: then on your windows box you run "iperf -s" that will put it into server mode
[14:12] <dartt> Slart: is it safe?
[14:12] <Slart> dartt: and on your ubuntu box you run "iperf -c XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX"  <--- change the XXX's to the ip number of the windows machine
[14:12] <rallias> How do i make it so my wireless doesn't deauthenticate?
[14:12] <Slart> dartt: the file isn't hosted by me but as far as I can tell it should be safe
[14:12] <wajiema> give me a gide line
[14:12] <dartt> Slart: ok...i try
[14:13] <nicofs> is there a phone software to make REAL phone calls via an integrated modem? (NOT VoIP/SIP/skype)
[14:13] <Farkie> No
[14:14] <Browdux> is it possible to use unetbootin to install a persistent live ubuntu on my usb drive?
[14:14] <IdleOne> !usb > Browdux
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Browdux:  you can add a persistant save file later.
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Browdux:  but unetbootin does not support it by default.
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Browdux:  there are alternatives to unetbootin that does,. and other ways check the pendrivelinux web site
[14:15] <haxxorz321> IdleOne: still doesnt work an error occured while reinstalling
[14:15] <Browdux> does the pendrivelinux program install a persistent image of ubuntu on usb drives?
[14:15] <Henry78> found it: remove entry from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ (which purge-ppa didn't find?)
[14:16] <adam__> chanell
[14:16] <sheldon> ok, last shot then I will leave you guys alone...  I can't keep an optical disk mounted on either one of 2 identical cd/dvd drives since upgrading to 10.04.  I also did a fresh install and am getting the same results.
[14:16] <IdleOne> haxxorz321: how did you try to install in the first place? what command did you use?
[14:16] <rhend15> hi all
[14:17] <haxxorz321> IdleOne: software center
[14:17] <roydude> hey everyone
[14:17] <marce_> hii
[14:17] <kenpark> !hi
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> sheldon:  cant 'keep' it mounted? YOu mean it mounts then vanishes?
[14:18] <roydude> I want to setup my machines to boot from network...  I've been told that the generic kernels in Lucid don't support NFSroot,  is there a way to get such a kernel?
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> !netboot
[14:18] <ikonia> roydude: if that's true (didn't think it was) you'd have to use a custom kernel
[14:19] <IdleOne> haxxorz321:" sudo apt-get purge -remove yofrankie " should completely uninstall that package if not I am not sure how to get it to remove.
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> netbooting is such a neat trick
[14:19] <roydude> !netboot
[14:19] <sheldon> yes, its quite unusual...  i get i/o errors in dmesg...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/448700/plain/
[14:19] <KalEl> if i upgrade cpu, motherboard, graphics card, ram - will there be any problem with current ubuntu 10.04 installation?
[14:19] <ikonia> KalEl: shouldn't be, graphics card may cause you pain
[14:19] <wajiema> sry yall kids woke up be back shortly
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> KalEl:  perhaps with video card.  deopends on what you change
[14:20] <roydude> ikonia: where do I find custom kernels?
[14:20] <dartt> Slart: hey can we use ftp protocol???
[14:20] <haxxorz321> IdleOne: i hate to say this, but guess what?
[14:20] <ikonia> roydude: they don't "exist" you have to make them
[14:20] <KalEl> ikonia, Dr_Willis, i am planning to upgrade NVidia to NVidia
[14:20] <Slart> dartt: how do you mean? ubuntu can use ftp, sure
[14:20] <mahesh> I have installed Lucid on asrock motherboard G41M-VS2 with intel GMA x4500; now i am unable to boot graphical mode
[14:20] <ikonia> KalEl: still may cause you pain
[14:20] <KalEl> ok
[14:20] <dartt> Slart: k lemme try through filezilla
[14:20] <KalEl> thanks
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> KalEl:  its possible the 2 cards may need different driver versions. You may want to Uninstall any nvidia drivers you are using befor changing over
[14:21] <IdleOne> haxxorz321: pose your question again. Someone else here will know more. explain what you already tried.
[14:21] <KalEl> good idea, thanks
[14:21] <Slart> dartt: iperf didn't work?
[14:21] <dartt> Slart: nothing happened once i did wat u told
[14:22] <Slart> dartt: it takes a little while for it to do the test.. you got no output at all?
[14:22] <sheldon> Dr_Willis, Any ideas?
[14:22] <dartt> Slart: terminal said that there is no command like that
[14:22] <Slart> dartt: on the ubuntu box?
[14:22] <dartt> Slart: yaps
[14:23] <Slart> dartt: did you instal it?    sudo apt-get install iperf
[14:23] <haxxorz321> i installed yofrankie in the software center, but a blackout occured and the installation was interupted.  now, when i sudo apt-get install anything, it doesnt work.  wierdly, the software center still works, although an error pops up after each installation
[14:23] <dartt> ya i did
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> sheldon:  optical drives seem to be  getting of worse and worse quality all the time.  Im on my 3rd one on this box. and i rarly even use the thing.
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> sheldon:  give it a good air dusting, and try  a new optical drive.. (is about all i can suggest)
[14:23] <Slart> dartt: and then typed    iperf -c 192.168.0.1   or whatever the ip of your windows box is
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> sheldon:  check the cables also. :)
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> sheldon:  had a cut wire on one once.. caused me a lot of issues
[14:24] <mahesh> is it possible to install lucid lynx on intel DMA x4500 with G41 mothrboard
[14:24] <cdavis> I am trying to print to a remote cups queue and it fails. tcpdump shows only snmp traffic to that host which isn't enabled. Why is cups using snmp?
[14:24] <sheldon> Dr_Willis, thats what I thought at first, but I have 2 identical drives that failed at the same time and during an upgrade.
[14:28] <larrylamsy> Is there any Chinese writing pad for Chinese input that can be used in Ubuntu?
[14:28] <erUSUL> !cn
[14:29] <larrylamsy> I have tried install one with Wine, but it does not work in Ubuntu.
[14:29] <larrylamsy> Ok, ubottu thank.
[14:31] <mahesh> how to install lucid mynx on intel gma x4500 chip on m/b g41?
[14:32] <erUSUL> mahesh: burn a cd; boot with it follow on screen instructions ?
[14:32] <erUSUL> !install
[14:33] <angenoir_> #roz lololol
[14:33] <voltagex> !automate
[14:34] <albakry> Hi everyone. should i upgrade "gtkrgba.sh" in apt-get upgrade routine ? *** gtkrgba.sh (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[14:34] <Guest87699>  HI!
[14:34] <erUSUL> !hi
[14:34] <mahesh> erUSUL, I installed Lucid with i915 modest=1 using live cd, but now unable to boot it
[14:35] <odt> why is it so hard to define a differet audio device to use for rhythmbox than the default sound device
[14:35] <erUSUL> mahesh: "unable to boot" means? you get to grub? you get to login screen? how it fails? what error message?
[14:35] <erUSUL> !details | mahesh
[14:35] <odt> i've been spending the last hour to figure out about pulseaudio and gstreamer, but apparently it only follows the default device set via preferenced>sound
[14:36] <GreenGuy> I can't remember the option to select to disable my touchpad
[14:36] <GreenGuy> can anyone help?
[14:36] <mickster04> GreenGuy: have you google "disable touchpad"?
[14:37] <GreenGuy> mickster: thx
[14:37] <IdleOne> !google | mickster04
[14:37] <IdleOne> !touchpad | GreenGuy
[14:38] <mickster04> IdleOne: but if they don't ever think to google they will flood us with pointless needless noise
[14:38] <IdleOne> mickster04: Please do NOT tell people to "google it" it is rude. People come here for help and not to be told to look for help.
[14:39] <Martin_vW> Is keyserver.ubuntu.com down again? I'm getting "gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host".
[14:39] <Gothar> has anyone noticed that "Software Sources" is not working like it should.. i add an ppa and it adds it to "Provided by Ubuntu" but i cannot install anything from that ppa because it is not authenticated source :S
[14:39] <GreenGuy> IdleOne and ubottu, thanks! :)
[14:39] <belal1> I'm not a programmer but I'm trying to learn how to grab output from a terminal to a gui interface? can someone point me to the right direction?
[14:39] <mahesh> i have installed 10.04 LTS using live cd, i couls install it after adding line "i915 modeset = 1" after " quiet splash", i could install lucid. but now when grub tries to start gdm it gives error. I found that intel gma x4500 graphics card giving this kind of error
[14:39] <henriquemaia> Hi, my laptop, an EeePc is acting weird with ubuntu. Whenever it makes a sound (a new chat sound, for instance) the laptop goes on battery for a second, fading the screen.
[14:39] <IdleOne> GreenGuy: welcome
[14:39] <albakry> Should i expect any graphical problem when i upgrade my "gtkrgba.sh"? the upgrade manager gives me the choice YES/NO
[14:40] <henriquemaia> Anyone has an idea of what it might be?
[14:40] <NeonLightning> idk when it started but for some reason in gnome or xfce when i maximize things don't have window decorations so i can't minimize or unmaximize without right clicking on taskbar, and in anything but gnome the system tray doesn't work
[14:40] <Martin_vW> Gothar: our problems could be related... the keyserver seems to be down, so we can't get the keys to authenticate the PPA's packages.
[14:41] <henriquemaia> It's like producing a sound makes the computer run out of power.
[14:41] <Gothar> yes u are right :)
[14:41] <henriquemaia> If I take the battery out, the computer shuts down when a sound occurs.
[14:41] <henriquemaia> And... it only happens in Linux.
[14:41] <Gothar> i get key error when i tried in terminal
[14:41] <pestario> hi... i don't see eth0 configured in /etc/network/interfaces file. Yet, it is up and connecting to the router. My question is, where is the config for eth0 defined?
[14:42] <erUSUL> pestario: Network Manager is handling it
[14:42] <pestario> erUSUL: is there a config file for it?
[14:42] <erUSUL> pestario: right click on the NM icon choose edit connections
[14:43] <pestario> cool.. thanks!
[14:43] <buppa_> How do I check if these are installed on my computer: XFree86-Mesa-libGL, libstdc++, libgcc, XFree86-libs, fontconfig, freetype, zlib, ggc, glibc version 2.2 or 2.3
[14:43] <root__> Are there any terminal IDEs with syntax hilighting?
[14:43] <IdleOne> buppa_: apt-cache policy packagename
[14:44] <buppa_> IdleOne, it says "W: Unable to locate package libstdc++"
[14:44] <erUSUL> root__: most terminal editors support syntax highlight (even nano)
[14:44] <mahesh> erUSUL ubotto, i will give u exact errors while booting, for that i need to login from other machine. i will be back with details. thanks
[14:45] <IdleOne> buppa_: ubottu> Package libstdc++ does not exist in lucid
[14:45] <root__> erUSUL: Is it enabled be default in nano? Are there any other ones you would recommend?
[14:45] <buppa_> IdleOne, so how do i install it?
[14:45] <erUSUL> root__: emacs; vim; joe ...
[14:45] <buppa_> IdleOne, im running karmic
[14:45] <erUSUL> !editor
[14:46] <IdleOne> buppa_: try apt-cache search libstdc++ | less
[14:46] <IdleOne> libstdc++6 is in lucid
[14:46] <gothenburg> can I format 1 TB to fat 32?
[14:46] <root__> erUSUL: Thanks
[14:46] <buppa_> IdleOne, it says i need all those packges to make my graphic drivers work
[14:47] <IdleOne> buppa_: ok install them
[14:47] <IdleOne> buppa_: what does apt-cache search libstdc++ | less return?
[14:48] <buppa_> IdleOne, it shows http://pastebin.com/QfnQBUf1
[14:48] <IdleOne> buppa_: ok then. install libstdc++6
[14:49] <buppa_> IdleOne, "libstdc++6 is already the newest version." so its already installed?
[14:49] <IdleOne> yes
[14:49] <IdleOne> buppa_: what is telling you to install those packages?
[14:50] <buppa_> IdleOne, graphic card manufacture of ATI Radeon HD 5770
[14:50]  * erUSUL guesses INSTALL file or ./configure
[14:50] <IdleOne> buppa_: why are you trying to compile?
[14:50] <buppa_> IdleOne, the problem is my CPU usage is always high, when i move around windows in Ubuntu
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> gothenburg:  i dont think fat32 can handle that size a partition.. try it and see.
[14:51] <buppa_> IdleOne, my graphic card proprtary drivers
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> gothenburg:  actually  double checking i DO have a 1tb fat32 I think.. let me tripple check
[14:51] <MrElendig> buppa_: catalyst is in the repos, you don't need to build them yourself
[14:51] <IdleOne> buppa_: look in system > administration > hardware drivers does it offer drivers?
[14:51] <peternickson> still having a problem with connecting to wireless networks.  Have an Atheros wireless card.  can anyone help?
[14:51] <buppa_> IdleOne and MrElendig: yes but when i installed them i get a green AMD icon in the right corner of the screen saying "unsupported hardware".
[14:52] <gothenburg> Dr_Willis: :D
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> gothenburg:  yep. i do have a 1TB usb hd thats fat32
[14:52] <gothenburg> :)
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> gothenburg:  theres still a 4gb max in a single file  limit.
[14:52] <IdleOne> buppa_: sorry but I don't compile my drivers. I do know that you need to install build-essential if you are going to compile anything. apt-cache policy build-essential
[14:52] <MrElendig> buppa_: what version?
[14:53] <MrElendig> 10.4 and 10.5 works just fine with 5770
[14:53] <MrElendig> well, as fine as catalyst can work
[14:53] <buppa_> Mrcheesenips, ati-driver-installer-10-5-x86.x86_64.run
[14:53] <buppa_> Mrcheesenips, no. the cpu usage is very high
[14:53] <MrElendig> buppa_: you will just get a lot of problems if you install using that
[14:53] <buppa_> MrElendig, *
[14:53] <MrElendig> buppa_: get a patched xorg-server
[14:53] <MrElendig> prefably 1.8
[14:53] <buppa_> MrElendig, where?
[14:54] <MrElendig> ppa, or make some .deb's yourself
[14:54] <buppa_> MrElendig, wheres the link? creating debs doesnt work for me
[14:55] <siddhion> greetings. i just ran Gparted Live off of USB to free up space on my 300gb HD. I would like to create 3 partitions (1 for Ubuntu 10.04, 1 for /home & 1 for linux-swap) any tips on what I should do right now?
[14:55] <Frijolie> I cannot unmount my external hard drive, get "device or resource is busy" even after powering off device and rebooting computer. still shows as mounted
[14:56] <siddhion> should I just resize my HD to created a large chunk of unallocated space? or is it more complicated?
[14:56] <buppa_> MrElendig, the CPU usage with Xorg is very high
[14:56] <MrElendig> because you don't have the patches
[14:57] <mahesh_> I have asrock motherboadrd G41M-VS2 with intel gma x4500 chip, on this system i can install and run 9.04 smoothly, but when try to install 10.04 from live cd it gives error ending with -> unexpected exit with status 0x0009. I could boot in live session by selecting F6 with nomodeset and "i915.modeset=1" after " quiet splash". Then i was able to install 10.04 smoothly. Now I am trying to boot with Grub on MBR, it is not able start x-server i.e. GDM
[14:57] <buppa_> MrElendig, where can i download the patches?
[14:58] <Frijolie> any ideas?
[14:59] <MrElendig> buppa_: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36328  has links to the patches for xorg-server 1.8
[14:59] <MrElendig> I would be supriced if you couldn't find a patched xorg in ppa too
[14:59] <MrElendig> so look there first
[15:00] <un214> anybody know how to replace the entire set of bootscripts?
[15:00] <drdozer1>  hi - what is the right channel to ask about the nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[15:00] <buppa_> MrElendig, im not that good with ubuntu, i dont know what ppa is or how to install stuff from ppa.
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | buppa_
[15:01] <buppa_> thanks, ActionParsnip - but what do i seatch for patched xorg-server 1.8?
[15:02] <Bear10> Any ideas why when I join a vpn (ultravpn) my local computers can no longer see this computer? (or a way to fix it)
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> buppa_: you want the x swat ppa then most likely
[15:02] <MrElendig> buppa_: check if there already is a patched xorg in ppa before you run off looking for the patches
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> buppa_: in the search type xorg
[15:03] <MrElendig> buppa_: just search for xorg and see what it turns up
[15:03] <Frijolie> stumped the best of 'em I guess
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> buppa_: then flick through the results til you find the version you want
[15:05] <digidimi> anybody knows if there's a way to "convince" wubi to accept a ubuntu minimal iso instead of the desktop version? using --skipmd5check isn't enough...
[15:05] <josmala_> How to get eclipse without gcj, I've already installed the sun java package?
[15:06] <pppp> hi
[15:08] <pestario> josmala_: edit your eclipse.ini and add the 'vm' argument
[15:09] <skinofstars> any recommendations for a better irc client than empathy? pidgin used to be good
[15:09] <Slart> skinofstars: xchat, quassel for gui.. irssi for terminal..
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> skinofstars:  totally depends on your needs. I dont use  the IM clients out there that also do IRC. i use dedicated IRC clients
[15:09] <pestario> josmala_: or you can just run eclipse by passing -vm <path to javaws> argument
[15:09] <Slart> skinofstars: but there are lots out there
[15:10] <skinofstars> yeah, i need i nice simple gui :) just things like rooms lists would be good
[15:10] <mahesh_> shall i share xorg log file of my live session, so that i can get help on changing xorg.conf in installation
[15:11] <skinofstars> and perhaps an ability to silence notifications of room arrival/exits
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> skinofstars:  most irc clients can do that.
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> skinofstars:  try xchat
[15:12] <skinofstars> ok, ta
[15:12] <buppa_> MrElendig, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=xorg - wich one do i need?
[15:12] <Lord_Phoenix> Hello everyone
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> skinofstars: pidgin here dude
[15:13] <Lord_Phoenix> Can anyone help with Ambient Light sensor on my laptop?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !irc | skinofstars
[15:14] <Bear10> I accidentally moved a shortcut from "places" to desktop, how can i get it back in there
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Bear10: places is controlled from nautilus, just drag a folder to the left panel in nautilus
[15:15] <mahesh_> ubotto, i have submitted my detailed problem
[15:16] <Kuifje111> hello all.
[15:16] <Bear10> ActionParsnip, in my left panel in my folder browser there is no "places" though
[15:16] <chadi> I have an IR receiver on my laptop. How can I know which driver ubuntu is using to control it?
[15:16] <skinofstars> @Bear10: if you can't drag it back perhaps just add a new menu item via right click > edit menus
[15:16] <Kuifje111> is it possible to get yourself removed from the logs on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/?
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> Bear10:  theres a little menu item that lets you select places, or other items for the sidebar
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Bear10: no but the folders in the left panel are used to make the places folder up, if you add folders there it will appear in the places menu
[15:17] <buppa_> ActionParsnip, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=xorg - wich one do i need?
[15:17] <Chrrris> I am trying to connect to a wireless network, but I get "disconnected" under the Wireless Networks status.
[15:17] <Bear10> ActionParsnip, i think the places your talking about and the one im talking about are different
[15:17] <Bear10> ActionParsinp I'm talking about "places" next to "applications" at the top
[15:17] <Bear10> woops
[15:17] <Bear10> it wasnt even "places"
[15:17] <Bear10> it was System -> administartion
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> Bear10:  if you drag/drop an item from a  menu to the desktop. It should just make a copy of the menu item on the desktop
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> buppa_: is it an old version or a newer version than you have
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Bear10: ahhh then that is controlled via alacarte
[15:18] <Bear10> Dr_willis, well it actually took it out
[15:18] <buppa_> ActionParsnip, i dont know, how do i check wich xorg version i have?
[15:18] <Bear10> ActionParsnip, great so what do i do :)
[15:18] <gothenburg> älskling
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> Bear10:  ive never seen it actually remove an item from the menus by doing that
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> buppa_: apt-cache policy xorg
[15:19] <RegressLess> Any 7zip users out there?
[15:19] <Slart> Kuifje111: why not ask in #ubuntu-ops, they might not be able to do it themselves but perhaps they know who can do it
[15:19] <buppa_> ActionParsnip, Installed: 1:7.4+3ubuntu10
[15:19] <Kuifje111> Slart: ok, thanks.
[15:19] <buppa_> ActionParsnip, so i need 1.8?
[15:19] <Bear10> Dr_Willis, well I'm telling you what happened, your choice to believe me or not.
[15:19] <Bear10> but help would be appreciated :)
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Bear10:  i cant test it - on netbook edititon. I drag/drop niormal apps all the time and never have them vanish.
[15:20] <Bear10> Dr_Willis, what actually happened was first i dragged it to the panel
[15:20] <Bear10> then to the desktop
[15:20] <Frijolie> how do you troubleshoot an external HDD that will not unmount?
[15:20] <hanlin> does anyone use xmonad with gnome and has been able to get xmonad-log-applet to output in UTF8?
[15:20] <Bear10> and it was no longer in my pref or admin
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> Bear10:  what you did would almost sound like a bug. Try running the 'alacarte' program
[15:20] <RegressLess> How do I open an archive with 7zip? I just installed it from Ubuntu Software Center and I don't know how to make the file open with that application.
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess:  use the normal archive maanger tool. it will handle 7zips if you have that pacakge instgalled
[15:20] <erUSUL> RegressLess: right click on the archive; choose extract
[15:20] <Bear10> Dr_Willis, ah perfect thanks
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[15:21] <boing> what do I need to install for 3d via cube
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if that resets the menus also
[15:21] <kmq> I want to install the netbook edition from a usb stick. but I can't use the 'startup disk creator'
[15:21] <erUSUL> !ccsm | boing
[15:21] <erUSUL> kmq: unetbootin ?
[15:21] <kmq> that didn' t work
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> kmq:  unetbootin, or make a bootable grub2 usb that boots the iso   are other ways
[15:22] <kmq> Dr_Willis: I got as far as the installer starting
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> kmq:  try that unetbootin made flash drive on other pc's  - ive had in some cases usb drives that dont boot properly on all my machines
[15:22] <kmq> but it complains that i'c  can't find an install medium
[15:22] <RegressLess> erUSUL: Dr_Willis: It's a .rar and it tells me it can't happen, but I know 7zip can so I installed it.
[15:22] <erUSUL> !rar | RegressLess
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess:  7zip has an extra 'rar' package i belive
[15:22] <sudobash> My openoffice isn't working so I can't edit my resume, has Oracle disabled it without purchasing a license now?
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess:  or install the actual rar binaries
[15:23] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | sudobash
[15:23] <Slart> sudobash: define "isn't working"
[15:23] <yoyoned> sudobash: no, what error are you getting
[15:23] <kmq> I copied the files from with the ISO to a ext partition on the usbstick and bootet via extlinux
[15:23] <sudobash> I was about to type the error I had to bring it up first
[15:23] <buppa_> ActionParsnip, do you know how to install this on ubuntu: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36328
[15:23] <pppp> hi could anybody hepl confugure apache virtual host please contact priv
[15:24] <Lord_Phoenix> Guys, does any one have any idea how to enable Ambient Light sensor on Ubuntu 10.04 and HP Envy 15 laptop?
[15:24] <sudobash> The application can not be started. The user interface language could not be determined.
[15:24] <cdavis> Is there an easy way to estimate the size of a duplicity backup? I have several excluded files
[15:24] <erUSUL> sudobash: System>Admin...>language support
[15:25] <SailorReality> how do you make the shell able to run multiple processes at the same time? when I run e.g. xchat it wont let me type anything else in that shell and if i close it itll close xchat
[15:25] <Slart> SailorReality: put an & at the end
[15:25] <Slart> SailorReality: that will get you a new prompt
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> SailorReality:  bash basics - JOB CONTROLL :) use of the & and other special feature
[15:25] <SailorReality> thanks
[15:25] <sudobash> Thanks
[15:25] <kroson> hi people
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> SailorReality:  also use the 'exit' command - not the close button -  - the close button Might kill any apps you have runnign with &
[15:26] <kroson> im having that bug of flash x32 on 64-bit system where you cant click the buttons of some videos
[15:26] <kroson> i know there is a fix but dont remeber where i saw it :S
[15:26] <G_G> Can you code VBA on Ubuntu?
[15:26] <kroson> can anyone tell me? tks
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  ive seen several fix's at  different web sites.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> kroson: tried native 64bit flash?
[15:26] <sudobash> Was ubuntu affected by the last flash exploit that came out a few days ago?
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  one dirty one was 'right click, then left click on the button as you hold down the right mouse button'
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> buppa_: not sure there dude
[15:27] <MrElendig> sudobash: yes
[15:27] <kroson> ActionParsnip: there is no more support from adobe, so i dont want to keep that old alpha xD
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> G_G:  clarify what 'VBA' means
[15:27] <buppa_> ActionParsnip, ok - but there was no patched xorg 1.8 in ppa?
[15:27] <G_G> .NET VBA
[15:27] <kroson> Dr_Willis: i wanted something permanent
[15:27] <sudobash> 10.04 or 9.10 and earlier?
[15:27] <G_G> Dr_Willis: .NET VBA
[15:27] <digidimi> kroson, maybe this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/fixing-fullscreen-flash-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> kroson: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  check for the various tips. ive seen sites with 5+ differnet fix's - what ones work.. can vary
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> kroson: make sure you remove the flash you currently have
[15:28] <RegressLess> Dr_Willis: You ever just want to do something quick and easy? That's me in a nutshell. Got any quick tips for me?
[15:28] <G_G> Dr_Willis: Visual Basic for Applications
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> buppa_: no idea mate, i just used the edgers ppa for bleeding edge xorg and intel video driver
[15:28] <overrider> Hi, i am running 10.4 netbook on an eeepc 1005PE; i read in some places the wifi works out of the box, but not in my case; does not show using ifconfig. I had it off during installation, may that be the reason?
[15:28] <kroson> digidimi: its not that, but thanks :)
[15:28] <kroson> Dr_Willis: ok ill do it
[15:28] <kroson> ActionParsnip: thats old now, they wont upgrade that version anymore
[15:28] <sudobash> 10.04 seems to be working very well on my laptop, 9.10 was crashing ever 20 minutes from either wifi or ATi drivers
[15:28] <kroson> so i prefer to keep the 10.1 with nspluginwrapper
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> overrider: doubtful, the same packages will be installed
[15:29] <Zwei> Hi, is anyone else getting this "your profile could not be opened properly" message when ever chromium updates itself or just me?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> kroson: but its native 64bit rather than going through nspluginwrapper so the 64bit one runs cleaner and uses less resources
[15:29] <Zwei> only started happening recently...
[15:29] <Blackout> may i ask questions here?
[15:30] <erUSUL> Blackout: yes
[15:30] <sudobash> Zwei it sounds like the update was maybe applied as root and now your normal user can't access chrome now but thats just a hunch I don't really know
[15:30] <Blackout> how can i use keyboard symbols
[15:30] <Blackout> on ubuntu
[15:30] <Blackout> like alt+3
[15:30] <Slart> Zwei: no problems here
[15:30] <kroson> ActionParsnip: are you sure it will go good with all flash websites?
[15:30] <Zwei> Thanks sudobash, Slart .
[15:30] <erUSUL> Blackout: altgr + 3 --> # ?
[15:30] <Slart> Blackout: hmm.. you mean altgr 3?
[15:30] <kroson> or most of them
[15:30] <sudobash> Zwei maybe check the permissions on the directories and files associated with chrome
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Zwei: make sure your user is the owner of all its home directory
[15:31] <kroson> i read it has a problem with hulu, which i dont use by the way
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> kroson: works brilliantly here
[15:31] <Blackout> » like this symbol
[15:31] <kroson> ActionParsnip: comparing to the 32-bit emulated, have you noticed signifficant differences?
[15:31] <Blackout> alt+something
[15:31] <buppa_> MrElendig, how do i install this http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36328 on ubuntu?
[15:31] <kroson> you shall know that 10.1 is faster flash version, because it uses GPU acceleration to render videos
[15:31] <sudobash> Zwei so what ActionParsnips said is: sudo chown -R Zwei ~
[15:31] <erUSUL> Blackout: use AltGr... i got it in z and x ...
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> kroson: lower cpu usage on my sempron 3000 1.6Ghz
[15:32] <erUSUL> Blackout: « »
[15:32] <Slart> Blackout: you mean like alt+numeric keyboard ?
[15:32] <Zwei> Checking permission now, thanks guys
[15:32] <kroson> ActionParsnip: tried watching 1080p videos on youtube?
[15:32] <Blackout> slart
[15:32] <Blackout> yep
[15:32] <Slart> Blackout: hmm.. there is something similar.. but I never remember the specifics.. hang on.. let me look around
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> kroson: not seen 1080 on 460 or whatever it is
[15:32] <Blackout> ok
[15:32] <Blackout> =)
[15:33] <kroson> this flash seems to work fine in resources, only the buttons problem is killing me :S
[15:33] <Zwei> Hmm, I got: "chown: cannot access `/home/raymon/.gvfs': Permission denied"
[15:33] <chadi> I have an IR receiver on my laptop. How can I know which driver ubuntu is using to control it?
[15:33] <Blackout> and u now ctrl+g on win?
[15:34] <G_G> Can you run Microsoft Visual Basic on Ubuntu?
[15:34] <mickster04> !lirc | chadi
[15:34] <Zwei> I usually fix it by copying my old chrome profile, delete the old one, then it creates a new own by itself...
[15:34] <mickster04> G_G: no
[15:34] <Zwei> then i copy some stuff over
[15:34] <mickster04> chadi: investigate lirc
[15:34] <Zwei> but when chromium updates, it happens again.
[15:34] <chadi> mickster04: I did not get anything
[15:35] <sudobash> Zwei that means .gvfs is in use but it got everything else
[15:35] <chadi> mickster04 I am setting up lirc, but it is asking me which remote to use, and I don't know
[15:35] <Slart> Blackout: have a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343472
[15:35] <Blackout> ok thanks
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Zwei: cd /home; sudo chown -R raymon:raymon ./raymon    you will get some errors about special folders but otherwise it will be fine
[15:35] <mickster04> chadi: oh ok, well i've never used it so can't help you much... what options do u get?
[15:36] <slow-motion> hi
[15:36] <sudobash> he's already claimed ownership he needs to chmod if it doesnt work now
[15:36] <chadi> many, like a hundred (asus, microsoft, hp, haupauge ..)
[15:36] <NeonLightning> any clue what could be causing my systray in all wm's aside from gnome to not show anything
[15:36] <Slart> Blackout: this is a bit dated by now.. but it might be worth reading.. not sure if everything still works though http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_type_extended_characters
[15:37] <Blackout> and
[15:37] <Blackout> u know
[15:37] <Blackout> ctrl+g
[15:37] <Blackout> on windows
[15:37] <FloodBot3> Blackout: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:37] <Slart> Blackout: what does ctrl+g do in windows?
[15:37] <Blackout> hum
[15:37] <Blackout> u type a word
[15:37] <Blackout> and it looks for that word for u
[15:37] <Blackout> to subistutute
[15:37] <mickster04> slart nothin
[15:37] <Blackout> for another
[15:37] <crevillo> hi there
[15:37] <sudobash> Is chrome even in the home directory?
[15:38] <mickster04> Blackout: you mean word?
[15:38] <crevillo> any good link where i could learn how to setup my hp c3180 via wireless?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> sudobash: the profile is in ~/.config I believe
[15:38] <Blackout> u put the work u want to subistitute for another
[15:38] <crevillo> i've got ubuntu 10.04 btw
[15:38] <Blackout> bad english here sorry
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: run: sudo lshw -C network    websearch for the product line for the wifi for guides
[15:39] <crevillo> thanks!
[15:39] <Slart> Blackout: ah.. I think I understand..haven't seen anything like that.. but I haven't really been looking
[15:39] <Zwei> sudobash: it should be. Let me find the exact directory, 1 sec
[15:39] <kroson> is there a ppa with Ooffice 3.2.1?
[15:39] <Blackout> hum
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: if its a broadcom 43xx then this guide will be useful
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | crevillo
[15:40] <crevillo> thanks again
[15:40] <crevillo> trying now
[15:40] <Zwei> /home/raymon/.config/chromium/Default/
[15:40] <Zwei> It's there
[15:40] <buppa_> Anyone know how to install this http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36328 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:40] <Blackout> anyway thanks slart
[15:40] <RegressLess> how do I add the Universe repository?
[15:41] <Slart> Blackout: you're welcome
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: obviously if its not thn that guide is no use to you
[15:41] <Blackout> bye bye
[15:41] <Zwei> I copy my default folder, delete the default folder, then it creates a new one by itself..
[15:41] <Zwei> and I copy my bookmarks back.
[15:41] <crevillo> really i'm not good with this
[15:41] <JoshuaL> a while ago i filled in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/569335 however i still dont have a reply yet wether it is a bug or not
[15:41] <crevillo> really begginner
[15:41] <JoshuaL> and if it is going ot be fixed
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: just copy the wireless device name and use it in websearches to get guides
[15:41] <kthomas_vh_> is there a quick way to change the font size (view %) of an arbitrary application window?
[15:42] <kroson> ActionParsnip: your 64-bit flash also seems to have a security flaw!
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: if you can get a wired connection til you get the wifi working it will make life a LOT easier
[15:42] <crevillo> how should i find if it's broadcom 43xx?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: run: sudo lshw -C network    in a terminal
[15:42] <crevillo> aha, that's what i've done
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> kroson: I'm not that botherd as I dont go on any sites I am not sure about
[15:43] <crevillo> let me pastebin the result
[15:43] <Slart> kthomas_vh_: have a look in the compiz settings... there are some options to change the size of a window
[15:43] <kroson> ok fine :)
[15:43] <kroson> by the way i found the fix for my issue
[15:43] <kroson> tks
[15:43] <Slart> kthomas_vh_: I think there is one plugin called "shelf" something
[15:43] <RegressLess> can someone help me add a repository (I almost type suppository)
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> kroson: it only will affect you if there is a malicious flash applet etc, if you go to ok sites then you ave no issue (as far as I am aware)
[15:44] <Quatroking> hey there
[15:44] <kthomas_vh_> Slart, tks,  I'll go look (note: arbitrary!)
[15:44] <Quatroking> I've been wondering, these awesome wallpapers that come with Ubuntu, are they available for other operating systems too?
[15:44] <ToeKutter> yea
[15:45] <crevillo> ActionParsnip, here it is
[15:45] <crevillo> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/5JnPGQLr
[15:45] <sudobash> you should be able to copy them and take them to whatever OS you want
[15:45] <mickster04> Quatroking: they are just pictures....
[15:45] <Quatroking> oh, wait, I said wallpapers
[15:45] <ToeKutter> art.gnome.org has lots of em too
[15:45] <Blackout> hey slart
[15:45] <Quatroking> Sorry, I meant screensavers
[15:45] <Blackout> i just found
[15:45] <Slart> Blackout: yes?
[15:45] <Blackout> the ctrl g stuff
[15:45] <Blackout> thats ctrl h
[15:45] <Blackout> =S
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: its working and has an ip. ip=192.168.1.33
[15:45] <kroson> ActionParsnip: sure, so you shall be fine
[15:45] <JoshuaL> anyone has an idea how to solve this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/569335
[15:45] <mickster04> Blackout: thats not windows thoug =h is it?
[15:46] <Quatroking> Eh
[15:46] <Blackout> mickster
[15:46] <Blackout> what?
[15:46] <Quatroking> let me rephrase my question
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> kroson: yeah should be, obviously its not ideal but i'd say try it. if its not much better with cpu than the 32bit one etc then switch back
[15:46] <Quatroking> I've been wondering, these awesome screensavers that come with Ubuntu, are they available for other operating systems too?
[15:46] <crevillo> what do you mean?
[15:46] <mickster04> Blackout: your short-cut, it doesn;t do anything in windows...it does it in word or OOo
[15:46] <Slart> Blackout: ehm.. ok.. if it does what you want.. great =)
[15:46] <RegressLess> how do I add the Universe repository?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: try this: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf      delete all the text and add these 2 lines:  nameserver 8.8.8.8             nameserver 8.8.4.4
[15:46] <kroson> ActionParsnip: the problem is that adobe doesnt seem to want to support 64-bit anymore soon, so we will have to keep with this one sooner or later
[15:47] <kroson> while html5 doesnt become the default XD
[15:47] <mickster04> RegressLess: isn't it in your sources.list? or system>admin>softwaresources
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: save the new file, close gedit then try the web using wifi
[15:47] <Blackout> mickster ctrl g or h
[15:47] <mickster04> Blackout: what does it do?
[15:47] <crevillo> what is that for?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> kroson: if computing becomes mainly 64bit it will need to :)
[15:47] <Blackout> ctrl g on win is like ctrl h here
[15:48] <Blackout> i was looking for that ctrl h
[15:48] <mickster04> Blackout: ok, but are you in a word proccessor for that? cos ctrl+g in windows does nothing
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: gives you some DNS servers, I've seen some devices not get good / any DNS servers via DHCP
[15:48] <Blackout> yep
[15:48] <RegressLess> mickster04: Oh, lol, yeah. I was just trying to follow instructions I didn't understand. It's all there, thanks.
[15:48] <kroson> ActionParsnip: yeah and i hope so too
[15:48] <poutine> My network manager disappears when my laptop runs out of battery and I can't get it to come back up without deleting ~/.gconf/apps/panel, anyone know how to fix this?
[15:48] <Blackout> in word
[15:48] <Blackout> or
[15:48] <kroson> but canonical doesnt want the 64-bit plugin by default
[15:48] <kroson> there must be a reson for that xD
[15:48] <Blackout> notepad
[15:48] <Sivam> hi
[15:49] <Sivam> is there any configuration method for ipv6 settings ?
[15:49] <crevillo> done
[15:49] <mickster04> Blackout: righto
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Sivam: i know how to diable it
[15:49] <crevillo> now, i'm browsing for some pages
[15:49] <crevillo> all is ok
[15:49] <Sivam> ActionParsnip,  is ipv6 hardware dependent
[15:49] <Sivam> ?
[15:49] <patrick> hio\
[15:49] <buppa_> Anyone know how to install (or compile) this http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36328 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:49] <mickster04> Sivam: shouldnt be?
[15:50] <Sivam> so can I hold both IPV4 and IPV6 in same machine ?
[15:50] <mickster04> Sivam: define hold
[15:51] <kroson> ActionParsnip: but i agree with you, in a system with all applications compiled for 64-bit it sounds bad to have this plugin :S
[15:51] <crevillo> so, for setting up my printer via wireless i'm on the right way?
[15:51] <Guest56922> how can i improve my bot time?
[15:52] <Guest56922> boot*
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest56922: reduce startup services
[15:52] <Guest56922> already done
[15:52] <ToeKutter> I was like bot" - gtf out
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> crevillo: the printer will have a manual, it probably has an ad hoc network built in for config
[15:53] <crevillo> searching for it
[15:53] <geohacker> how can I manage the music in my portable music player in Ubuntu?
[15:54] <craigbass1976> all of a sudden, I can't connect to databases with php scripts on my dev box.  Something happen to a package lately?  I uninstalled php5 yesterday, then installed it again, and I thought everything worked after that
[15:54] <vamsi_> how to block chatting sites?
[15:54] <craigbass1976> geohacker, it doesn't just show up as another drive when you plug it in?
[15:55] <geohacker> craigbass1976: well yes, it acts as a mass storage device. I can perfectly move files between, but it would be great if I can find a way to create playlists for it.
[15:55] <Guest56922> are you on 10.104 geohacker?
[15:55] <geohacker> Guest56922: nope. I'm on Karmic. 9.10
[15:55] <buppa_> Anyone know how to install (or compile) this http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36328 on Ubuntu 10.04? I need help, i dont know how to compile in Ubuntu.
[15:56] <craigbass1976> geohacker, can you see any play lists on it now?  You might have to make them by hand somehow in a text editor; I've never farted around with mine much, just dump stuff on and go
[15:56] <Guest56922> 10.04 supports ipods fully
[15:57] <kroson> ppl what is the best live messenger client for linux? should i use empathy or install another?
[15:57] <kroson> tks
[15:57] <geohacker> craigbass1976: Manually creating the playlist is being a difficult job, because the entire path of the file is like /media/<my audio player name>/<folder>/<file name>. This makes it difficult when I transfer the playlist to the device.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> !IM
[15:58] <kroson> BluesKaj: what do you think about aMSN or emesene?
[15:58] <kroson> pidgin seems similar to empathy
[15:58] <ech0s7> hi
[15:59] <ech0s7> how can i change the textcolor of popup box ? (from white to black) http://i.imgur.com/JdlHY.png
[15:59] <ech0s7> (what attribute of gtkrc ?)
[15:59] <SailorReality> if I plug my printer in will it work automatically on Ubuntu? I lost the installation disk that i needed to get it working on windows
[16:00] <BluesKaj> kroson, I use aMSN, but I'm not a big IM user anyway ...just keep it handy for a few ppl and friends who still insist on using IMs
[16:00] <BluesKaj> SailorReality, what brand printer?
[16:01] <SailorReality> BlueKaj: lexmark i think
[16:02] <SailorReality> have to go in the basement and get it first
[16:02] <VBU-Ingvar> its about time that canonical display a fix for Moodle. it stoped working after upgrade to lucid
[16:03] <BluesKaj> SailorReality, lexmark might be supported , depends on the model , but mostly lexmarks are poorly supported in linux
[16:03] <freesbie> hallo, mein xserver will den installierten radeonhd nicht nehmen, sondern nimmt lieber radeon, reicht das wenn ich in einer xorg.con nur eine section device mache und dort den radeonhd als treiber einsetze? Gibts eine andere Möglichkeit den treiber laden zu lassen?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> SailorReality, wife's lexmark (windows) is recognized by my linux boxes but  can't print on it
[16:06] <natalief> I was wondering if anyone could help me edit the main menu from command line as the System > Preferences > Main Menu does not work
[16:07] <ric_81> Can we see the computers which use our connection (like wireless) ?
[16:07] <edundead> hi
[16:07] <kroson> how do i remove my current flash? 32-bit version
[16:07] <kroson> tks
[16:08] <ech0s7> ric_81: on router home page
[16:08] <overrider> Does anyone know how to get the wireless working on a eeepc 1005PE running 10.4 Desktop?
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> natalief:  run the alacarte program from the alt-f2 in the gui.  if that dosent work.. theres some issues going on
[16:08] <ric_81> ech0s7: it is possible to see it from termianl with a command ?
[16:08] <Seven_Six_Two> in the middle of  do-release-upgrade (9.10-10.04) and it's stuck after  "Cleaning up add-on packages... done" with no cpu or hd activity. Is it safe to stop and rerun?
[16:09] <ech0s7> ric_81: yes, with a little script with curl/wget
[16:09] <IdleOne> Seven_Six_Two: how long has it been stopped?
[16:09] <Seven_Six_Two> IdleOne, maybe 4 or 5 minutes
[16:09] <natalief> Dr_Willis: Is Alacarte only supposed to be run as root?
[16:09] <IdleOne> Seven_Six_Two: I would wait a little longer ~15 mins
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> natalief:  i run it as my user. to edit my users menus
[16:10] <Kauzmik1dr> Can someone please recommend a file share server? I have tried to config netadata and samba, Im have both mac and windows on my network. I have used centos with samba for years but I really like Ubuntu. Thanks :)
[16:10] <kroson> Dr_Willis: do you know how can i remove my current flash? its 32 bit version, tks
[16:10] <Seven_Six_Two> IdleOne, I downloaded the iso last night, so I'm burning it before I interfere anyhow. I'll wait a while longer just in case. thanks
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  fure up package manager,  search for it. remove.
[16:10] <kroson> i only have flashplugin-installer package
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> kroson:  i just had a flash update today - from the partners repository
[16:10] <kroson> because im using 64-bit
[16:10] <natalief> Dr_Willis: I could only get alarcarte to start by invoking gksu
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> natalief:  ive never ever ran it as root.
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> natalief:  run it from terminal. loojk for error messages
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> be back soon. gotta run a errand
[16:12] <kyle_> anyone help me with the following. i want to use this but for 10.4 not 9.04 - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[16:13] <binaryme> natalief: is it possible you have some permissions problems with your home directory?
[16:13] <brontoeee> how would i go connecting to juniper networks stuff?
[16:13] <aj00200> binaryme: yes, if an administrator locks you out
[16:14] <natalief> binaryme: I do appear to have a permission problem with some of the files in my home directory.... how would I correct that?
[16:15] <binaryme> natalief: you would need to reset the permissions on the relevant directories.
[16:16] <natalief> binaryme: thank you... I have gotten the problem fixed
[16:17] <binaryme> natalief: you're welcome
[16:17] <Dargon> is there a package for webmin in apt-get?
[16:17] <llutz> !webmin | Dargon
[16:17] <Dargon> !ebox
[16:18] <duffydack> kroson, use 64bit flash
[16:18] <binaryme> Dargon: no.  You need to get the package from their website
[16:18] <buppa_> Anyone know how to install (or compile) this http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36328 on Ubuntu 10.04? I need help, i dont know how to compile in Ubuntu.
[16:18] <Dargon> rockin, thanks llutz
[16:19] <lnostdal-web> hi . .how do i get rid of the horrible indicator applets, but still maintain an ability for my users to use the WLAN after logging in?
[16:19] <Dargon> whats someones favorit ftpd?
[16:19] <llutz> Dargon: try vsftpd
[16:19] <Lasivian> any suggestions for working with MDB files in Ubuntu?
[16:19] <lnostdal-web> ..or ... why is network stuff bulked together with stuff most users have no interest in? .. in one big applet?
[16:20] <Lasivian> I tried Kexi but the migration from mdb is not functional it seems
[16:21] <siddhion> hello. i am installing ubuntu 10.04 and have selected to manually partition the 100gb of free space into 3 parts (15 gb for Ubuntu 10.04, 70gb for /home, 8gb for Linux-Swap) How should i go about this?
[16:21] <siddhion> I ask because the How-To over here is outdated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[16:21] <ToeKutter> are you not given the choice during setup to create your partitinos ?
[16:22] <edbian> ToeKutter, You are, you have to choose manual.  Then you can do whatever you want to the HDD>
[16:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> siddhion, 8Gb for SWAP? Why?
[16:22] <siddhion> ToeKutter: I have chosen to manually set up my paritions at Step 4 of the Installation\
[16:22] <krikulis> hello, how do I convert LaTeX to PDF ?
[16:23] <edbian> 8Gb of swap is really too much.  The "double your ram" rule of thumb is becoming out dated.  It really worked better in the area of ram between 128MB and 1Gb.  Anything more than 2GB of swap is too much IMHO.
[16:23] <siddhion> rafaelsoaresbr : because I have 4gb RAM and its suggested to do 1.5x your current set.
[16:23] <siddhion> edbian: oh hey there : )
[16:24] <edbian> siddhion, Hi
[16:24] <ToeKutter> I agree on the 2X ram thing. 8G oodles to much
[16:24] <SailorReality> i did 3 Mb of swap when I did it
[16:24] <siddhion> edbian: ahh ok. so you would suggest going 1.5 times what I have?
[16:24] <edbian> I can see 3
[16:24] <edbian> siddhion, How much do you have?
[16:24] <siddhion> edbian: 4gb
[16:25] <edbian> No.  I would suggest 2GB of ram.
[16:25] <rhend15> Hello
[16:25] <siddhion> edbian: are you sure? i am going 64bit with Lucid
[16:25] <edbian> I said that the 2x (or 1.5x) rule is really only good up to 1GB of ram.  If your swap is bigger than 2GB regardless of your ram, you're never going to fill it.
[16:25] <edbian> I'm sure
[16:25] <siddhion> edbian: cool
[16:26] <llutz> unless you need it for hibernation/suspend-to-disk
[16:26] <edbian> In fact if you have 4GB of ram that makes it even harder to fill a lot of swap.
[16:26] <ToeKutter> you muct be very confiednt to go ahead an dual boot the machine. maybe you should ry vmbox and play with it there first
[16:27] <edbian> My swap is 1.5 GB and I've never felt it.
[16:27] <siddhion> edbian: ok good to know. so i am the prepare partition screen right now. i am selected on the free space partition which is 100g
[16:27] <edbian> In fact, my computers been on for 2 days and 48 minutes and my swap is empty (1Gb ram)
[16:27] <polarbear4> i was wondering if anyone could help me get started in installing some python scripts on ubuntu server. it is for this: http://getmediacore.com/
[16:27] <rafaelsoaresbr> siddhion, I would sugest 256Mb for swaping :)
[16:27] <TuxOtaku> hey guys
[16:28] <siddhion> edbian: which partition should i create first?
[16:28] <TuxOtaku> having trouble with poulsbo drivers
[16:28] <siddhion> rafaelsoaresbr: wow :)
[16:28] <edbian> siddhion, Doesn't really matter.  When your hit the install button though you should have a root and a swap at least.  /home isn't a bad idea.
[16:28] <chateante> hi
[16:28] <TuxOtaku> I'm on kernel 2.6.31
[16:28] <chateante> i need help with my ubuntu i am a noob
[16:28] <wweasel> I am about to debootstrap Debian Lenny on my Ubuntu Karmic system.  In what I've read online, to debootstrap old Ubuntu releases, I would need to download *their* deboostrap deb. Do I need to download a specific debootstrap deb for Lenny?
[16:28] <TuxOtaku> just tried recompiling the poulsbo kernel sources
[16:29] <TuxOtaku> and now my sound doesn't work
[16:29] <edbian> chateante, You came to the right place but you have to tell us what is wrong! :)
[16:29] <chateante> i want that my ubuntu ask me for a password for into my windows`s partition
[16:29] <Dargon> and is there a package that has apache with php and mysql (maybe some phpmyadmin) all wrapped in one?
[16:29] <siddhion> edbian: i do not see an install button here. so i assume you are talking  about after the paritioning phase
[16:29] <TuxOtaku> I got an error saying "hda_intel azx_get_response timeout switching to single_cmd mode"
[16:29] <TuxOtaku> anyone ever seen this before?
[16:29] <chateante> hi everybody
[16:29] <edbian> siddhion, Yeah.  When you stop answering questions and the system actually starts installing.  I don't think there is a literal "install" button.
[16:30] <chateante> i'll repeat my doub
[16:30] <kyle_> exit
[16:30] <chateante> i need to reactivate my password to join to my windows partitions
[16:30] <chateante> thanks! :P
[16:31] <rafaelsoaresbr> chateante, you can change folder's permission, or you can remove the option "auto" from /etc/fstab
[16:31] <siddhion> edbian: ok. so right now i have the free space partition selected and I press "ADD" and I am faced with the choice of Logical or Primary. Which one should I choose?
[16:31] <chateante> thankyou rafaelsoaresbr
[16:31] <edbian> siddhion, How many partitions do you already have / plan on ever having?  Is this a dual boot?
[16:32] <amee2k> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download  <<  why does this say that the 64 bit version is not recommended for day to day usage?
[16:32] <Dargon> llutz, do you know of a package that has apache with php support and mysql in one, or are they seperate downloads
[16:32] <wweasel> I am about to debootstrap Debian Lenny on my Ubuntu Karmic system.  In what I've read online, to debootstrap old Ubuntu releases, I would need to download *their* deboostrap deb. Do I need to download a specific debootstrap deb for Lenny?
[16:32] <rafaelsoaresbr> chateante, you're welcome
[16:33] <Dargon> !apache
[16:33] <basso> Hello, anyone else having problems with Rythmbox crashing on startup?
[16:33] <Dargon> nice
[16:33] <rhend15> stack
[16:33] <siddhion> edbian: yes this is a dual-boot. currently I have 2 partitions (1 windows recovery NTFS = 1.5G   &   1 Vista NTFS = 200G) with 100G of free space
[16:36] <edbian> siddhion, Because the partition table of any hdd is a fixed size you can only have 4 primary partitions on any given hdd.  To get around this you can create an extended partitions that go inside a primary partition.  You can have as many extended partitions as you want.
[16:37] <edbian> siddhion, The easiest way to get this done is to tell the ubuntu installer to "use the largest continuous free space" and it will do all that magic for you and even ask if you want a separate /home.
[16:37] <chateante> i am in fstab
[16:37] <chateante> i cant found partitions of windows
[16:37] <blacksunseven> 64bit Lucid: I've got the 10.1 32bit flash installed using ndiswrapper from a tutorial found in the forums but full-screen video looks very choppy with it. Any suggestions? Trying to stream world cup games smoothly :)
[16:37] <amee2k> any hints?
[16:37] <edbian> siddhion, You can alternatively, create the partitions manually.  So create a primary and then start creating logical partitions inside it (extended) for /, swap, and /home (if you want). Do you want a separate /home ?
[16:38] <edbian> siddhion, Does that all make sense?  Any questions?
[16:38] <aj00200> blacksunseven: is your internet fast enoough to streap high quality video in the first place? You might want to check that first
[16:38] <blacksunseven> aj00200: Yes, in Windows it looks perfect on the same computer.
[16:39] <amee2k> umm... does fullscreen refer to flash player here?
[16:39] <blacksunseven> amee2k: Yes, full-screen video w/ flash player.
[16:40] <amee2k> you can pretty much forget about that getting to work
[16:40] <rafaelsoaresbr> chateante, where is your windows's partition mounted?
[16:40] <chateante> idk
[16:40] <siddhion> edbian: sorry for the delay. yes i would like a /home partition. so ultimately it will look like (15 gb for Ubuntu 10.04, 80gb for /home, 1.5gb for Linux-Swap)
[16:40] <amee2k> flash player seems to be about half as efficient at decoding video in software, and i haven't found a way to get it to use special purpose hardware
[16:40] <Dargon> how do i make apache use the public_html directory in peoples /home?
[16:40] <blacksunseven> Well that's not quite the news I was hoping for =\
[16:41] <amee2k> and decoding high quality video can be an ass job on the CPU
[16:41] <GNUtoo|laptop> hi, is there the correct channel for ubuntu's bind9? I've got no response in #ubuntu-server
[16:41] <edbian> siddhion, 15Gb is a lot for root.  10 is probably better.  I have 7Gb / and it has been about 50% full for over a year now.
[16:41] <Brazzer> how do i install icecast?
[16:41] <blacksunseven> I knew it was horribly inefficient in linux but figured quad-core would make up for it
[16:41] <siddhion> edbian: ok 10 it is then :)
[16:41] <chateante> UUID=55c192f9-bc25-4062-ba6a-e59e3844bfca none            swap    sw           $
[16:41] <chateante> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[16:41] <domedagen> How do install an app for all users at the same time?
[16:41] <Slart> blacksunseven: I don't think it's cpu bound.. I've got six cores and it's still choppy
[16:41] <chateante> rafael look at this
[16:41] <blacksunseven> I hate Adobe.
[16:42] <Brazzer> how do instal icecast?
[16:42] <aj00200> blacksunseven: maybe giving it a higer priority would help. I cant remember how to do it though
[16:42] <rafaelsoaresbr> chateante, there should be one line like: "UUID=e24d635e-6f0b-4bb8-8728-877cc0f28220 /windows               ntfs    auto 0       1"
[16:42] <Daekdroom> blacksunseven, try turning off compiz
[16:42] <GNUtoo|laptop> roughly the config files dates from an old FreeBSD installation,were migrated to gentoo(bind 9 something), and now when I want to migrate them on ubuntu a lot of thing aren't recognized like listen-on etc...
[16:42] <edbian> siddhion, Sounds good to me.  Have you ever installed Ubuntu before?
[16:42] <blacksunseven> Daekdroom: I believe its off already
[16:42] <siddhion> edbian: so now I am wondering if I should just let the installer do it automatically. i just need to make sure that I get those3 partitions made.
[16:42] <chateante> UUID=8a098789-c5ce-4da1-bbbf-69163353942e /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:43] <siddhion> edbian: i installed Xubuntu 10.04 over XP several days ago
[16:43] <amee2k> blacksunseven: dunno about its efficiency on other platforms, but my X2 5600+ is about maxed out with decoding 1080p in mplayer at ~20Mbps
[16:43] <chateante> i don't have it
[16:44] <amee2k> if i go any higher, the lag makes it almost unwatchable by any standard
[16:44] <edbian> siddhion, Eh, the linux way would be to understand it.  Linus him self uses distros like fedora and ubuntu because he thinks most others are "over technical" I think that if you understand the partitions completely it doesn't matter how you get it done.
[16:44] <chateante> i only have the lines of linux
[16:44] <chateante> linux partitions
[16:44] <chateante> ext4 y swap
[16:44] <amee2k> 10Mbps 720p seems to work fine, mostly
[16:45] <kapa_44> what is my local ip ?
[16:45] <chateante> ext & ant
[16:45] <chateante> ext & swap
[16:45] <edbian> kapa_44, ip addr
[16:45] <edbian> kapa_44, It a term
[16:45] <domedagen> edbian: I thought Linux uses openSUSE?
[16:45] <domedagen> Linux
[16:45] <domedagen> Linus
[16:45] <domedagen> *
[16:46] <edbian> domedagen, ha ha.  I do that too all the time.  He might now.  The point is moot. It's still a distro that aims at making things easier.  My point was he doesn't use Slackware or Gentoo.
[16:46] <amee2k> blacksunseven: quad core won't help much if the player doesn't use it. check your per-core load while playing back
[16:47] <rafaelsoaresbr> chateante, so, your windows's partition isn't being mounted at system startup?
[16:48] <amee2k> blacksunseven: haven't gotten that to use hardware acceleration either, but you could try getting vlc to work. not cinema quality, but that used to work fairly well. i know for a fact that mplayer with livdvpau does hardware accel
[16:48] <domedagen> But seriously.
[16:48] <blacksunseven> Yeah 1080p video isn't as smooth as it should be either, but that's not flash-related.
[16:48] <domedagen> How do I install an ap pfor all users
[16:49] <blacksunseven> I've been using mplayer for everything but how do I know if I'm using livdpau?
[16:49] <siddhion> edbian: so ok. i will make a Primary partition. Then create 3 logical partitions with in that one. 1 10G ext4 partition, 1 95G ext4 partition & 1 1.5G Linux-Swap partition. Sound right?
[16:50] <edbian> siddhion, Yep
[16:50] <edbian> siddhion, That will work just fine.
[16:50] <amee2k> blacksunseven: in gmplayer, check the settings window for "video output". it should offer it as an "vdpau" option there
[16:50] <blacksunseven> gmplayer? guess I need to install that first
[16:50] <amee2k> search the repo for that too... you need to install some additional packages for it to work
[16:51] <amee2k> sorry, dunno how to check it in vanilla mplayer off the top of my head
[16:51] <GNUtoo|laptop> ok I'll abandon
[16:51] <yeahyeah_> list
[16:51] <yeahyeah_> exit
[16:52] <amee2k> and install proper video drives for your video card. works with the repo drivers and gforce 8 or later for me
[16:52] <siddhion> edbian: great. i shall begin now :)
[16:52] <edbian> siddhion, Have fun! :)
[16:52] <blacksunseven> i had smplayer installed so I went to Video>Output Driver> and found vdpau there
[16:53] <amee2k> oh, i use that too on some systems
[16:53] <blacksunseven> There an adv/disadv to either?
[16:53] <amee2k> none with sufficiently new video cards to use vdpau tho
[16:53] <rush> yas tu qqun qui parle francais icite
[16:53] <amee2k> not really. they're frontends for the same engine
[16:54] <magicianlord> Question: After a base install of 10.04, what is the proper way to install and configure alsa? I installed alsa and alsa-utils, but no script ran following installation and i cannot configure anything
[16:54] <siddhion> edbian: looks like i did not get far. should the location of the Primary partition be Begining or End? Also what format should I use? It says ext4 to begin with . And what will the Mount Point be?
[16:54] <amee2k> so i'd say its a matter of personal preference
[16:54] <rush> francaisssssssssss
[16:54] <rush> svppppppppp
[16:54] <boing> is it required to clean the metadata
[16:54] <rush> jai une questionnnnnnn
[16:54] <rush> :P
[16:54] <FloodBot3> rush: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <rush> ok chef
[16:54] <LjL> !fr | rush
[16:54] <rafaelsoaresbr> does 'rm' move removed files to trash?, or only nautilus...
[16:54] <LjL> rafaelsoaresbr: no, it doesn't
[16:54] <rush> mais eil mec
[16:54] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: rm just deletes them
[16:54] <rush> ubottu
[16:55] <simontol> Hi, I'm missing the download link for the native 64bit version of Flashplayer, anyone?
[16:55] <Slart> simontol: I think it's gone
[16:55] <simontol> Slart: can you tell me why?
[16:56] <edbian> siddhion, I might have gotten it backwards.  First off, the linux stuff should come after windows.  Secondly, I just double checked and I appear to have an "extended" partition with logical ones inside it.  Try that, my extended partition does not have a filesystem type.  My logical ones inside it do.
[16:56] <magicianlord> Can someone help me with Alsa?
[16:56] <magicianlord> This is urgent.
[16:56] <Slart> simontol: there is a message about doing some kind of restructuring of the 64bit flash plugin.. probably had something to do with the flash vulnerability that showed up recently
[16:56] <blacksunseven> too bad ESPN3 wasnt written in html5...those bitches
[16:56] <kiamo> I am unable to boot my windows partition.  It appears as an option in grub2, however it says unknown device.
[16:56] <Slart> magicianlord: just ask your question to the channel, just as you would if it wasn't urgent
[16:56] <kiamo> regarding grub.conf, it looks like the uuid in the grub.conf file doesn't match the windows partitions uuid
[16:56] <joey_> looking for someone to help with setting up apache localhost?
[16:57] <IdleOne> !language | blacksunseven
[16:57] <kiamo> "search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set fc02-1a5e"  <-- should the correct uuid sit at the end of this line?
[16:57] <blacksunseven> :x
[16:57] <kiamo> the correct uuid is: F472224472220C44
[16:57] <blacksunseven> irc faces = much much different
[16:57] <magicianlord> Slart: i did ask it. i need to know how to install and configure alsa from a base install of 10.04. i installed alsa-base and alsa-utils, and edited the conf file in modprobe, but still nothing.
[16:57] <siddhion> edbian: im not sure what you mean by " First off, the linux stuff should come after windows."
[16:58] <edbian> siddhion, You asked where it should go on the disk.  Where is windows right now?  At the beginning?  Do you have free space?
[16:58] <Slart> magicianlord: I have no idea, sorry
[16:58] <coz_> magicianlord,  although this how to is for a specific card I use... you can change its parameters for your card   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EchoMia
[16:58] <magicianlord> ok cox
[16:59] <magicianlord> coz
[16:59] <simontol> Slart: thanks
[16:59] <coz_> magicianlord,   you might want to go to the #alsa channel along with that link to be sure on how to identify the card
[16:59] <Slart> simontol: you're welcome
[16:59] <coz_> magicianlord,  then use that how to with your card identity inplace of the one mentioned there
[16:59] <coz_> magicianlord,  not sure if that will help so be sure to visit the #alsa channel first
[17:00] <magicianlord> coz_: the configuration script didnt run after i installed alsa. why is that and where can i get it or the auto config utilityA
[17:00] <joey_> !nowplaying
[17:01] <coz_> magicianlord,  mmm well not sure actually... that link shows how to compile the alsa driver for specific cards  and as I mentioned ...the people who will have much more information about this and the issues  would be in #alsa channel
[17:01] <siddhion> edbian: ok the order that my pre-existing partitions are showing up is: 1st at the TOP = 1.5G windows recovery NTFS ..... 2nd Below 1st = 200G windows vista NTFS ........3rd Below 2nd = 100G of free space (no partition)
[17:02] <edbian> siddhion, All of this (linux stuff) should go in the free space.
[17:02] <siddhion> edbian: right on. so I click on the free space and then click ADD.
[17:02] <edbian> siddhion, Yes.
[17:02] <edbian> siddhion, What are the choices to add, extended, logical... ?
[17:03] <siddhion> edbian: then I choose "Primary" as the partition type.
[17:03] <edbian> siddhion, What are the other choices?
[17:03] <siddhion> edbian: 1st choice is for partition type. Primary and Logical only.
[17:04] <siddhion> edbian: below that I have the choice of what size to make it. right now it is set at 100G
[17:04] <edbian> siddhion, You want logical.  (extended) which will be the wrapper for your logical partitions so that you can have more than 4.
[17:04] <cloversg> I need some help with a bash script, can anyone respond, please?
[17:05] <siddhion> edbian: below that i have the choice for the location of the new partition: Beginning or End. It is set at Beginning right now.
[17:05] <edbian> siddhion, Don't mess with beginning / end.
[17:06] <siddhion> edbian: ok. I choose Logical, leave 100G, leave Beginning as the choice.
[17:06] <cloversg> exit
[17:06] <edbian> siddhion, Yep.  Then you should be able to create primary partitions inside it.  If memory serves the logical partition should be blue.
[17:07] <droidmanic> hey guys, if I connect a usb mouse after system boots up, the mouse does not work, If I attach it before the boot, it works perfectly on Lucid. I can actually see in the system logs that the mouse is detected. Any ideas?
[17:07] <siddhion> edbian: so below those 3 sections I see "Use as:" and a drop down menu of format types. Now it is set to ext4 Journaling File System
[17:07] <edbian> droidmanic, That is exactly what is supposed to happen.
[17:07] <droidmanic> the mouse is not supposed to work?
[17:07] <edbian> droidmanic, Linux probes all the hardware and loads modules for the HW it finds.  Everytime on boot.  It's actually quite impressive.
[17:08] <edbian> droidmanic, How does a mouse "not work" if it isn't even plugged into the computer?
[17:08] <siddhion> edbian: and the choice below that is"Mount Point:" with another drop down menu.
[17:08] <edbian> siddhion, If you switch it to primary does it still ask the fs type and mount point and such?
[17:08] <Slart> droidmanic: hmm.. I think I can plug an usb mouse in after booting and it will still work
[17:08] <droidmanic> I mean, after boot I plug it in and in the system logs I see mouse being detected, but does not work
[17:08] <edbian> siddhion, Hang on a second.  I'm going to actually do this instead of trying to remember.
[17:08] <siddhion> edbian: yes it does.
[17:09] <rafaelsoaresbr> droidmanic, yes, it's supposed to work
[17:09] <siddhion> edbian: you rock
[17:09] <Slart> droidmanic: although.. come to think of it.. I haven't tried in a while..
[17:09] <droidmanic> I know, it was working in the old releases of ubuntu
[17:09] <markcl> are there any good themes with colored names in empathy?
[17:09] <edbian> siddhion, Than that's the answer.  It was just terminology :)
[17:09] <droidmanic> it does not work with 10.04
[17:09] <edbian> so then, primary = extended?
[17:09] <joey_> looking for someone to help with setting up apache on my comp?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> !theme | markcl
[17:09] <sadidiot> please i need some help, i've removed in synaptic a lot of packages to free up space and now i've messed up my system, after the restart i can't use my keyboard or mouse properly, can't click the System menu, etc. but they work very good on the startup user login. is there any way i could restore the packages i've uninstalled or find out their names from the logs or anything ? now i'm in the xterm environment and everything works just fine (limited to one appl
[17:09] <sadidiot> ication at a time). please help me, i'm desperate :(
[17:10] <Slart> droidmanic: any errors in syslog or kern.log when you connect the mouse?
[17:10] <cloversg> can anyone spare a couple of minutes on bash - have a problem with variables in the while..done loop
[17:10] <Slart> sadidiot: you could install   ubuntu-desktop   , that should get you back
[17:10] <droidmanic> nope, syslog says this "new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4"
[17:10] <sadidiot> Slart, but the desktop works
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> cloversg: #bash will be more helpful as its more specific to your issue
[17:10] <sadidiot> it wasn't removed
[17:10] <droidmanic> and then this "configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"
[17:11] <cloversg> thanks ActionParnsnip
[17:11] <edbian> sadidiot, (fun name btw)  Do you know how to boot into ubuntu recovery mode and drop to a root shell?  I suggest you do that and then attempt to install "ubuntu-desktop" which I think will fix everything.  (Not 100% sure though)
[17:11] <Slart> sadidiot: ok, I might have misunderstood you then
[17:11] <sadidiot> yes, the desktop loads fine
[17:11] <siddhion> edbian: what is the answer?\
[17:11] <sadidiot> i've logged in in xterm because the mouse and keyboard work fine
[17:11] <sadidiot> but they don't work good in gnome
[17:12] <sadidiot> because of the uninstalled packages i guess
[17:12] <droidmanic> maybe the configuration is not right the system is selecting?
[17:12] <sadidiot> please tell me there are some logs for synaptic
[17:12] <sadidiot> please
[17:12] <edbian> siddhion, You said that if you switch the partition type to ________ (blank) then the options for filesystem type and such go grey.  Fill in the blank please :)
[17:12] <edbian> sadidiot, There are
[17:12] <sadidiot> where
[17:13] <edbian> sadidiot, file -> history
[17:13] <sadidiot> file ?
[17:13] <droidmanic> I read something about legacy usb support in bios, and I disabled that, but that doesn't help either
[17:13] <sadidiot> in synaptic ?
[17:13] <binaryme> sadidiot: sounds like you've messed up your gnome settings....  try renaming the gnome folders in your home folder (they will be recreated with default settings
[17:13] <edbian> sadidiot, in synaptic.  Yes
[17:13] <siddhion> edbian: no matter which partition type i choose(Primary or Logical) the file system part remains active
[17:13] <sadidiot> thank you guys
[17:13] <edbian> siddhion, Ahh, ok hang on.  I'm waiting for my partitioner.
[17:13] <edbian> siddhion, I have to be sure.
[17:13] <sadidiot> i'll try everything, and will be back if i don't get this right
[17:14] <siddhion> edbian: cool
[17:14] <prince_jammys> !faq disappear
[17:15] <gops> hello world
[17:15] <edbian> siddhion, Ahh!!  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ExtendedPartition  An extended partition is filled with Logical partitions.  Do you have the option to create an extended partition?
[17:15] <edbian> gops, hi
[17:15] <edbian> gops, Maybe I shouldn't speak for the entire world.
[17:15] <gops> hi edbian
[17:15] <gops> ok
[17:15] <world> hi gops!
[17:15] <siddhion> edbian: I only have the option to create Primary and/or Logical partitions
[17:16] <gops> hello every one
[17:16] <Royall> I'm trying to connect my handheld emulator to my computer and I get this http://imgur.com/gdskP.png
[17:16] <siddhion> gops hey there
[17:16] <edbian> siddhion, Back up through the installer until you're outside the partitioner.  Then start up the partition editor proper.  System -> admin -> partition editor (it might be called gparted)
[17:16] <Royall> It has worked before, now it doesn't
[17:17] <siddhion> edbian: aye aye captain
[17:17] <siddhion> edbian: do you want me to fully exit the installer?
[17:18] <edbian> siddhion, No, you don't have to.  Just back up so you're not in the installer.
[17:18] <edbian> siddhion, typo
[17:18] <droidmanic> The blacklist.conf in in modprobe.d/ has a line for usbmouse? Could this be preventing my usb mouse to work?
[17:18] <edbian> siddhion, Just back up so you're not in the partitioner
[17:18] <aendruk> Lucid didn't autodetect the correct screen resolution, and I can't find /etc/X11/xorg.conf. What should I do to correct it?
[17:18] <siddhion> edbian: ok i will quit the installer then.
[17:18] <edbian> siddhion, You don't have to.
[17:19] <siddhion> edbian: but you just said to back up so im not in the installer
[17:19] <fenik> hy all, I need help on a loop login in Lucid 10.04 original.  Kindly someone can help me?
[17:19] <siddhion> edbian: currently i am at Step 4
[17:19] <soadkombucha> Hello
[17:19] <binaryme> aendruk: fresh installation?
[17:20] <aendruk> yes
[17:20] <siddhion> soadkombucha hi
[17:20] <edbian> siddhion, Read everything I wrote.  That was a typo.  All you have to do is back up so you're not in the partitioner.  Partitioner != Installer.  Partitioner is just part of the installer.
[17:20] <soadkombucha> siddhion: How good are you with ubuntu? I'm having a really weird linux problem
[17:20] <mattgyver> droidmanic, im probably not the most qualified to answer you question but you could backup the file, remove the entry and see what happens.  If not, restore it.
[17:21] <droidmanic> yeah that is what I am thinking
[17:21] <soadkombucha> siddhion: And it's not just ubuntu... It's all Linux builds. The kernel fails to initialize on my processor... But I can't figure out why
[17:21] <binaryme> aendruk: Do an update, make sure everything is the newest.  install 'hardware drivers' if given the choice
[17:21] <siddhion> soadkombucha: not good, edbian good though
[17:21] <binaryme> aendruk: then reboot
[17:21] <mattgyver> droidmanic, its possible its related however it could just be using a different driver or whatever that conflicts with usbmouse so it has blacklisted it
[17:21] <the_madman> Lo everyone.
[17:21] <fenik> hy all, I need help on a loop login in Lucid 10.04 original.  Kindly someone can help me now?
[17:21] <edbian> siddhion, Thanks :P
[17:21] <the_madman> I'm having a problem with accessing a VNC server on Kubuntu.
[17:22] <edbian> soadkombucha, What's your architecture?
[17:22] <droidmanic> Yeah, it says HID drivers are preferred,, but may be they do not work I am not sure
[17:22] <aendruk> binaryme: ok, thanks. it's grabbing updates right now.
[17:22] <mattgyver> the_madman, whats the issue?  Not connecting?
[17:22] <fenik> hy all, I need help on a loop login in Lucid 10.04 original.  Kindly someone can help me?
[17:22] <the_madman> mattgyver: In a nutshell.
[17:23] <the_madman> mattgyver: The server is broadcasting itself on the network, and KRDC shows it in the list of broadcasting servers...
[17:23] <soadkombucha> edbian: AMD Athlon II m320 with the Radeon 4100 x64
[17:23] <siddhion> edbian: cool :P so I just fired up Gparted
[17:23] <edbian> siddhion, So, how about that partitioner proper
[17:23] <Sonsee> does anyone know how to get rid off this: "GLIB WARNING ** GLib - getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id" ?
[17:23] <the_madman> mattgyver: But double-clicking it results in, "Server not found" errors without fail.
[17:23] <Sonsee> at boot
[17:23] <edbian> siddhion, O good.  Now create an extended partition with that.
[17:23] <mattgyver> the_madman, have you setup port forwarding in your router?
[17:24] <fenik> hy all, I need help on a loop login in Lucid 10.04 original.  Kindly someone can help me?
[17:24] <the_madman> mattgyver: I don't think so. I'll have a look.
[17:24] <edbian> siddhion, In fact, we can do all the partitioning right here and then just tell the installer what to use each partition for.
[17:24] <edbian> soadkombucha, Is it amd64 of i686 ?
[17:24] <soadkombucha> edbian: AMD64
[17:24] <mattgyver> the_madman, vnc is a pretty tricky thing sometimes when there are problems but it sounds like you need to setup the forwards, otherwise your machine has no idea where its actually connecting
[17:24] <soadkombucha> edbian: I'm running Windows 7 Enterprise x64
[17:24] <siddhion> edbian: should I unclick "round to cylinders" ? oh ok! cool!
[17:24] <the_madman> mattgyver: Aah. That would explain.
[17:24] <edbian> soadkombucha, Are you running a 64 bit kernel (although I admit this really should not matter.  ix86 should run on 64bit hw)
[17:25] <_pg_> can anyone advise how to burn MTS files to a DVD?
[17:25] <mattgyver> the_madman, in essence you have to connect to IP:PORT you cannot hit the ip directly as it wont know where the service is running
[17:25] <soadkombucha> edbian: I tried 64bit and 32bit kernels
[17:25] <edbian> siddhion, Uh, no, leave the cylinders.
[17:25] <the_madman> mattgyver: See, I've tried connecting with the I.P address and that works.
[17:25] <edbian> soadkombucha, Really.  What in more detail, is happening?  Can you boot a live CD?
[17:25] <the_madman> mattgyver: Oh, no, that's a different problem then.
[17:25] <soadkombucha> edbian: And I've tried Ubuntu 8.04,9.1, and 10.04. And Fedora 13. And Slax.
[17:25] <soadkombucha> edbian: I can't even boot a live CD
[17:25] <the_madman> mattgyver: See, if I type in the I.P on it's own it works.
[17:25] <edbian> soadkombucha, What errors do you get?
[17:25] <soadkombucha> edbian: And I've tried kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu
[17:25] <cousin_mario> hello
[17:25] <mattgyver> the_madman, the local ip or external ip?
[17:25] <edbian> siddhion, Having any problems.
[17:25] <soadkombucha> It's an ACPI init error
[17:26] <the_madman> mattgyver: the local IP.
[17:26] <siddhion> edbian: ok. also, should I mess with the sizes? should I give it a label?
[17:26] <soadkombucha> But I can't even get to the option to turn ACPI off
[17:26] <edbian> soadkombucha, Well you certainly are thorough now aren't you?
[17:26] <mattgyver> And you have problems connecting to the domain or external ip correct?
[17:26]  * cousin_mario just lost the bootmanager due to another distro having been installed: how do you restore it from the livecd?
[17:26] <soadkombucha> edbian: I try to be.
[17:26] <edbian> siddhion, Label == optional.  What do you mean sizes?  Make the partitions the size and place you want them?
[17:26] <the_madman> mattgyver: But double-clicking the list entry, as well as typing in the host name (e.g. "desktop.local") doesn't work.
[17:26] <soadkombucha> edbian: I did as much research as I could, and tried another distro to see if it was just ubuntu.
[17:26] <_pg_> can anyone advise how to burn MTS files to a DVD?
[17:26] <siddhion> edbian: the reason I  asked about unchecking the round to cylindars is because i thought it might mess things up
[17:27] <edbian> soadkombucha, I suspect you have bad hardware somewhere.  Try switching out the ram or the HDD.
[17:27] <Zela> How do I remove a file, just 1
[17:27] <soadkombucha> edbian: The computer is brand new
[17:27] <soadkombucha> edbian: I got it 2 weeks ago
[17:27] <soadkombucha> edbian: I ran chkdsk
[17:27] <edbian> siddhion, I would just leave it at the default.  To be perfectly honest I don't know exactly what that would do.
[17:27] <_pg_> Zela: send it to trash?
[17:27] <soadkombucha> edbian: None of the sectors on the hard drive are bad
[17:27] <soadkombucha> edbian: And RAM Check didn't turn up any bad sectors
[17:27] <mattgyver> I dont really know outside of that then, but for kicks I would setup a forward in the router to at least rule that out completely.  Then you at least know its something at the service level
[17:27] <edbian> soadkombucha, wow, windows runs fine?
[17:27] <Zela> _pg_, what if its in a shell? I did rm file
[17:27]  * cousin_mario just lost the bootmanager due to another distro having been installed: how do you restore it from the livecd?
[17:27] <soadkombucha> edbian: Yeah, Windows runs perfectly
[17:28] <_pg_> Zela: I am useless in the shell sorry
[17:28] <soadkombucha> edbian: I also couldn't get Chromium OS to load. Nor could I get Hackintosh to load.
[17:28] <edbian> soadkombucha, This is extremely odd.  I have to admit I don't know!  Does the system give you any errors when booting a live CD?
[17:28] <soadkombucha> edbian: The ACPI init error
[17:28] <soadkombucha> edbian: It gives a kernel freakout
[17:28] <abhijain> i want to copy my data in bin folder
[17:28] <soadkombucha> edbian: And halts the boot
[17:29] <edbian> soadkombucha, Whoa.  I don't know man.  Maybe... bad hardware?
[17:29] <edbian> siddhion, How's it going?
[17:29] <Zela> Does anyone have any shell knowledge that can help me delete a file and not just remove it?
[17:29] <soadkombucha> edbian: Again, I've run hardware checks
[17:29] <soadkombucha> edbian: Nothing. Especially seeing as the laptop is 2 weeks old.
[17:29] <abhijain> how can i get ownership for copy data bin folder
[17:29] <siddhion> edbian: ok. that was quick. i just made it. so now i see that i have 100G of unallocated space under the newly created Extended partition :) now?
[17:29] <kian_> is there any software helps me to make auto run CD which works in both linux and windows?
[17:29] <siddhion> edbian: create the 3 partitions?
[17:29] <edbian> siddhion, yep
[17:29] <soadkombucha> edbian: I know this is weird... I've never before had a problem installing linux. And none of my friends can figure it out either.
[17:29] <soadkombucha> edbian: It's the most confusing thing I've ever seen.
[17:29] <resno> funkyHat: you around?
[17:29] <eliotn> hi
[17:30] <soadkombucha> edbian: And I even tried different forms of installer media
[17:30] <llutz> Zela: shred "file"      if that is what you call "delete"
[17:30] <soadkombucha> edbian: I tried USB install, CD install, installing from my friend's memory card
[17:30] <dekenx> My Ubuntu 10.04 Live CD is extermely slow, I have checked the MD5 already, previous versions were fine, there seems to be many i/o errors in the logs, any help?
[17:30] <Zela> ok llutz
[17:30] <_pg_> dekenx: bad cd drive?
[17:30] <edbian> soadkombucha, I have seen many windows systems totally ignore bad hardware and just run as if everything is great.  Linux on the same machine would seize up.  Maybe there is something majorly wrong with it?
[17:30] <soadkombucha> edbian: I highly doubt it. I would hope not.
[17:30] <binaryme> soadkombucha: I just came in on this.  Are you trying to install ubuntu on a W7 machine?
[17:31] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Yes.
[17:31] <dekenx> _pg_: nope popped in a few distros and previous Ubuntu's work fine
[17:31] <siddhion> edbian: ok i clicked on the unallocated space, clicked the Add+ button and should I make it Logical or Primary? was confused on that.
[17:31] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Maybe if I installed XP and then tried to install ubuntu?
[17:31] <soadkombucha> binaryme: And then reinstall Win7?
[17:31] <soadkombucha> edbian: binaryme: Wubi won't even boot
[17:31] <Mixxit> hiya, i am having a prob where debootstrap is just sticking on locales for ever
[17:31] <Mixxit> anywhere i can check whats going on?
[17:31] <binaryme> soadkombucha: you need to run chkdsk /f from windows, twice
[17:32] <soadkombucha> binaryme: I did
[17:32] <soadkombucha> binaryme: And I checked the RAM too
[17:32] <soadkombucha> binaryme: No bad sectors turned up
[17:32] <binaryme> soadkombucha: and it still won't let you re-partition the drive
[17:32] <siddhion> edbian: coreection, it will only allow me to make a Logical partition. sorry. so i will choose 10G since this is for my Ubuntu Lucid install.
[17:32] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Repartitioning the drive isn't the problem
[17:32] <edbian> siddhion, Logical partitions go inside an extended partition.
[17:32] <gops> I am back
[17:32] <soadkombucha> binaryme: I have the drive partitioned
[17:33] <soadkombucha> binaryme: But. The discs won't even boot
[17:33] <edbian> siddhion, Good so far!
[17:33] <edbian> siddhion, Then the 95Gb for /home
[17:33] <soadkombucha> binaryme: And I've tried MULTIPLE distros of linux, in both x86 and x64 architectures
[17:33] <edbian> siddhion, and swap at the end of the extended partition
[17:33] <binaryme> soadkombucha:  how many partions?
[17:33] <sadidiot> thanks for the help people, everything was restored in synaptic and the gnome works fine now :D
[17:33] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Right now I have three partitions set up
[17:33] <soadkombucha> binaryme: A windows partition, an NTFS data partition, and a partition that I want to use as extended for Ubuntu
[17:34] <siddhion> edbian: :) and the File System for the Lucid install should be ext4, right?
[17:34] <edbian> siddhion, yes.
[17:34] <soadkombucha> binaryme: It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
[17:34] <siddhion> edbian: cool, making it now
[17:34] <binaryme> soadkombucha: have you created the extended partion?
[17:35] <soadkombucha> binaryme: No, because I can't even boot into the ubuntu installer
[17:35] <soadkombucha> binaryme: I can't even boot into live linux
[17:35] <soadkombucha> binaryme: On any distro
[17:35] <soadkombucha> binaryme: I get the same error on Fedora, Slax, Ubuntu 8 9 and 10, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu
[17:35] <kiamo> how does typing in another language work in ubuntu?  I want to be able to type in simplified chinese.  Is it anything like the windows IME thing?
[17:35] <edbian> soadkombucha, Have you tried the apci=no option or whatever it is?
[17:35] <soadkombucha> binaryme: But the hardware is showing up as undamaged
[17:35] <soadkombucha> edbian: I can't even get to that option
[17:35] <binaryme> soadkombucha: you computer won't boot any linux live disk at all?
[17:35] <soadkombucha> edbian: That's what I WANT to try
[17:36] <gops> hello world
[17:36] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Nope. Kernel freakout and ACPI error
[17:36] <soadkombucha> binaryme: But I can't even get the option to disable ACPI
[17:36] <edbian> soadkombucha, Whoa what?  You don't even get to the ubuntu live CD menu?
[17:36] <soadkombucha> edbian: Nope
[17:36] <abhijain> anybody hell me
[17:36] <soadkombucha> edbian: It's really screwed up isn't it?
[17:36] <abhijain> help please i want to copy data file in bin folder
[17:36] <binaryme> soadkombucha:  some distros have a safe mode.  have you tried that?
[17:36] <edbian> soadkombucha, YES
[17:36] <soadkombucha> binaryme: I can't even get to live boot menus
[17:36] <chandru_in> I use a Huawei EC1261 USB modem.  After installing usb-modeswitch it works fine from the stock Lucid kernel version.  But on a fully updated system, it gets detected from sometime while at other times, it doesn't and checking dmesg, show that it is stuck at "waiting for device to settle before scanning".  Any help?
[17:36] <abhijain> how can i get ownership of bin folder
[17:37] <soadkombucha> binaryme: The only thing I could think was changing ACPI=OFF in the kernel
[17:37] <soadkombucha> But I don't know how to do that through windows
[17:37] <binaryme> soadkombucha:  is it reading from the CD at all?
[17:37] <soadkombucha> binaryme: It reads from the install media
[17:37] <binaryme> soadkombucha: and how foar does it get?
[17:37] <seb__> #ubuntustudio
[17:37] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Only to the kernel init step
[17:37] <arand> Tina: I'm using a similar one with lucid and it works ok. If you right after you plug it in run "dmesg" in the terminal, are there any particular errors
[17:38] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Then it freaksout when it tried to load ACPI
[17:38] <soadkombucha> binaryme: But I have no way to DISABLE ACPI
[17:38] <fenik> Hy all! May I ask something about a loop login on Lucid Ubuntu original?
[17:38] <Iorgrann> Anyone know why about:plugins (in Firefox) does not list the Java plugin?  $java -version shows "java version '1.6.0_0'
[17:38] <binaryme> soadkombucha: what kind pf computer is it?
[17:38] <soadkombucha> binaryme: AMD Athlon II 2,1GHz Dual Core m320 with ATI Radeon 4100 embedded graphics. x64
[17:39] <abhijain> fno one
[17:39] <fenik> Hy all! May I ask something about a loop login on Lucid Ubuntu original?
[17:39] <salil> How do you disable the Fn+Up and Fn+Down brightness adjustment on a Dell laptop?
[17:39] <chandru_in> was there some known regression related to USB modem in recent kernel updates?
[17:39] <siddhion> edbian: just made the /home partition and now I need to make the Linux-Swap....so should it be 1.5G? or 2G?
[17:39] <edbian> Either one
[17:39] <fenik> Hy all! May I ask something about a loop login on Lucid Ubuntu original?
[17:39] <abhijain> help guys i want to ownership for bin folder
[17:39] <fenik> Hy all! May I ask something about a loop login on Lucid Ubuntu original?
[17:39] <soadkombucha> siddhion: 2GB if you want to be safe, either should work
[17:39] <edbian> siddhion, The difference is trivial really
[17:39] <Zela> llutz, shred didnt get rid of it.
[17:39] <the_madman> mattgyver: I've searched for open bugs on KRDC, but it doesn't look like my problem is listed. D'you reckon I should report it?
[17:39] <Zela> I want to delete Unreal3.2.1.8.tar.gz
[17:39] <soadkombucha> binaryme: It's really weird.
[17:39] <binaryme> soadkombucha: is there a "safe mode" or similar in the bios that you can set?
[17:40] <siddhion> edbian soadkombucha ok cool
[17:40] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Nope.
[17:40] <VCoolio> abhijain: sudo chown -R yourname:yourname /folder
[17:40] <soadkombucha> binaryme: the Toshiba BIOS is very computer-retard-friendly
[17:40] <centurion> hola gente .... un concejo, compre una memoria USB de 16 Gb .. que sistema de archivos me recomiendan?????
[17:41] <Zela> I want to delete Unreal3.2.1.8.tar.gz can anyone tell me how to remove it? I used rm but I think it just removed it from the folder.
[17:41] <binaryme> soadkombucha: well.....  I've installed linux hundreds of times and never ound a machine that behave that bad.
[17:41] <Iorgrann> Zela: rm -rf
[17:41] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Yeah neither have I
[17:41] <ne7work> hello all how to make my pppoe connection faster?
[17:41] <soadkombucha> binaryme: It's really weird
[17:41] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Even my manual iPod Linux installs never were this terrible
[17:41] <siddhion> edbian: so all the partitions have successfully been made. now back to the installer
[17:42] <centurion> hi guys ... please what file system you recommended for an usb flash drive of 16 GB????
[17:42] <salil> How do you disable the Fn+Up and Fn+Down brightness adjustment on a Dell laptop?
[17:42] <siddhion> edbian: unless there is something else i should do in Gparted?\
[17:42] <soadkombucha> centurion: FAT32 most likely
[17:42] <funkyHat> Rewt`: hi
[17:42] <binaryme> soadkombucha: frustrating!!!!
[17:42] <edbian> siddhion, Nope. You're done there.  Back to the installer.
[17:42] <funkyHat> err. tabfail. resno, hi!
[17:42] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Yeah I know!
[17:42] <soadkombucha> binaryme: It's absurd.
[17:42] <centurion> FAT32 or NTFS?????
[17:42] <soadkombucha> binaryme: And the fact that it won't even boot WUBI
[17:42] <soadkombucha> centurion: FAT32 it's less than 20GB
[17:43] <Zela> Iorgrann, rm -rf Unreal3.2.1.8.tar.gz?
[17:43] <gops> hello world
[17:43] <funkyHat> Zela: the -rf is completely unnecessary there
[17:43] <Chrom> Hi all
[17:43] <binaryme> soadkombucha: yeah.  Have you tried loading off a USB stick instead of a CD?
[17:43] <centurion> soadkombucha:   ok .... thanks
[17:43] <soadkombucha> binaryme: Yup
[17:43] <tina__> I've upgraded to Lucid Lynx 10.04 ltd and now the system doesn't recognise the external hard drive- Seagate Expansion USB 2.0 Hard Drive. Is there some command line functions I can cut and paste to get to the contents of the drive?
[17:43] <soadkombucha> binaryme: And off a media card
[17:43] <binaryme> soadkombucha: grrrrr.
[17:43] <ne7work> hello all how to make my pppoe connection faster?
[17:43] <soadkombucha> binaryme: And off multiple CDs
[17:43] <soadkombucha> binaryme: And off of 3 different flash drives
[17:44] <siddhion> edbian: so I should choose Specify Partitions Manually or Install SidebySide?
[17:44] <edbian> soadkombucha, It almost seems as if there is some low level hardware system in place that keeps other kernel's from booting.
[17:44] <edbian> siddhion, Specify manually
[17:44] <soadkombucha> edbian: That's what I'm thinking. And if Toshiba did that I'll be pissed.
[17:44] <edbian> siddhion, Then you should be able to tell it what to use each one for.
[17:44] <Iorgrann> Zela, Yep, as long as you're in the right folder, of course.  Deletes the EXE file.  Nothing else, though.
[17:44] <funkyHat> Zela: rm is delete. removing it from a folder is the same as deleting, it doesn't go somewhere else ⢁)
[17:44] <edbian> soadkombucha, Seems like that would break a EULA somewhere.
[17:44] <soadkombucha> edbian: They have no right to tell me that I can't  install linux
[17:44] <binaryme> soadkombucha: Have you found any info (google?) re compatibility of linux with that motherboard?
[17:45] <soadkombucha> edbian: I would assume so..
[17:45] <soadkombucha> Let's see if Toshiba live can offer any help
[17:45] <siddhion> edbian: ok i did that and now i see all the partitions as expected. should i now click forward?
[17:46] <edbian> soadkombucha, ha ha.  You should record the conversation some where.  I'm sure hilarity will ensue...
[17:46] <soadkombucha> edbian: I already called them once
[17:46] <Chrom> Is any1 from Russia?
[17:46] <edbian> soadkombucha, "linux was created by russion hackers and it is illegal..."
[17:46] <kop> so the scenario is use "twinkle" to make a voip connection and then quit . Then use skype to make a connection and then quit . So back at twinkle now "cannot access mic device is busy , cannot access speaker device is busy , . I need a way to see what resources twinke and skype are using like piping lsof to a file and generating diffs of something  . so far I'm getting nowhere ...
[17:46] <soadkombucha> edbian: They tried to get me to restore to factory settings
[17:46] <soadkombucha> edbian: And I was like "Can't do that that partition doesn't exist"
[17:46] <edbian> soadkombucha, O god.  What would that do?
[17:46] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone anyone know anything about how well the Ultimate Edition of Ubuntu works?
[17:46] <soadkombucha> edbian: Because why use a backup partition when I know how to install windows by myself
[17:46] <THE_GFR|WORK> I mean... it looks a lot different and not very useful like Ubuntu is...
[17:46] <edbian> soadkombucha, I don't see how that would fix anything anyway...
[17:47] <siddhion> edbian: should I click forward?
[17:47] <edbian> siddhion, I can't see your screen bud.  Where are you?
[17:47] <soadkombucha> edbian: Neither do I
[17:47] <soadkombucha> edbian: They assumed that WINDOWS wasn't working properly
[17:47] <siddhion> edbian: step 5 of 8....the Prepare Partitions screen
[17:47] <calum> Hi all. I am having a problem getting a game to run under wine. Half of the main menu won't appear. I have made the files executable etc and the menu appears
[17:47] <soadkombucha> edbian: Unless...
[17:47] <THE_GFR|WORK> well
[17:47] <THE_GFR|WORK> anyhow
[17:47]  * resno taps funkyHat 
[17:47] <THE_GFR|WORK> I am downloading a version of Ubuntu Ultimate Edition anyone tried it?
[17:47] <soadkombucha> edbian: Unless the system recovery tool is still there
[17:47] <gausie> hi all. i'm experiencing the problems descirbed in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6xZqakN-M can anyone help?
[17:48] <soadkombucha> edbian: And that's halting everything
[17:48] <edbian> siddhion, Do you have the partitions choosen correctly?  Don't worry, the last screen confirms everything before the isntalling starts
[17:48] <funkyHat> !ask | resno ;D
[17:48] <ne7work> i need some help please someone come on private to ask him.. :(
[17:48] <resno> funkyHat: thanks, let me get the laptop in question
[17:48] <greg__> Jun 12 09:44:08 greg-desktop kernel: [  102.188475] scsi 4:0:0:0: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery.
[17:49] <wisecrypt>  is anyone know where i can find ebox-trafficshaping module for lucid server ?
[17:49] <soadkombucha> edbian: But it shouldn't be there I formatted the whole drive
[17:49] <siddhion> edbian: all the partitions are showing up there correctly. the only thing I can do with each one is "Change" "Delete" and "revert" so I assume I should press Forward
[17:49] <greg__> Having this message when I try to mount my mp3 player
[17:49] <edbian> siddhion, Yep, you're done.  You set them to be used as root and /home and /swap right?
[17:49] <soadkombucha> edbian: I might just call it a lost cause
[17:50] <greg__> It worked fine in 9. whatever
[17:50] <arthur___> i want to burn like 600 pictures to a cd , F-spot/export/cd ,
[17:50] <arthur___>  says file to big 1.3 gb and it has an option to burn multi cd's but it only burns the first 300 or so and when i insert a new disk it dont burn the rest....
[17:50] <gausie> hi all. i'm experiencing the problems descirbed in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6xZqakN-M can anyone help?
[17:50] <kop> THE_GFR|WORK, I had enough problems w/ 10.04 I don't need more than 9.04 and Ultimate sounds like it will make my teeth 200% brighter and kill my ex wife but as an OS wyfk ?
[17:50] <siddhion> edbian: no. how do i do that?
[17:50] <THE_GFR|WORK> kop: wyfk?
[17:51] <greg__> So....anyone else having trouble with usb?
[17:51] <siddhion> edbian: all i did was make them as you told me to in Gparted. I set root to be ext4, home to be ext4 and swap to be Linux-Swap
[17:51] <edbian> siddhion, You're gonna have to explore.  All I remember is that it's a drop down menu that says "use as" and you have to click on the properties of the partition or something.
[17:51] <ikonia> greg__: nope
[17:51] <myrk>  /msg NickServ identify myrkmyrk
[17:51] <myrk> oops
[17:51] <Akiraa> AMD64 is the name of the generic x86-64 architecture, even on Intel (64bit) chips?
[17:51] <ne7work> And add the following option…
[17:51] <ne7work> rootflags=data=writeback
[17:51] <ne7work> …to the end of the following lines:
[17:51] <ne7work> # defoptions=quiet splash vga=795 (by default, Ubuntu doesn’t have the “vga=795? option on this line. It appears if you did the second tweak from the first step (see above)).
[17:51] <FloodBot3> ne7work: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <ne7work> # altoptions=(recovery mode) single
[17:51] <ikonia> Akiraa: correct
[17:51] <myrk> ss
[17:52] <arthur___> i want to burn like 600 pictures to a cd , F-spot/export/cd ,  says file to big 1.3 gb and it has an option to burn multi cd's but it only burns the first 300 or so and when i insert a new disk it dont burn the rest....
[17:52] <shadows090> i've been trying to get samba working for two days. does anyone know how i can share a folder over my lan with read write access for all users?
[17:52] <THE_GFR|WORK> kop: well I am not sure if it will help I am having issues 10.04, 10.10, every version except 9.04
[17:52] <greg__> ikonia, there's not even a /dev file mentioned in /var/log/messages so I can mount it manually.
[17:52] <THE_GFR|WORK> well 9.04 and earlier
[17:52] <ikonia> shadows090: look at the guest user in damba
[17:52] <edbian> siddhion, I'm googling
[17:52] <calum> I'm having an issue running a windows game on wine. The menu will appear but all the buttons are unavailable except for quit
[17:52] <ikonia> greg__: what sort of device are you putting in
[17:52] <ikonia> calum: then ask in ##winehq
[17:52] <h4b0> hi there
[17:53] <calum> ikonia:Thanks. I will go there.
[17:53] <arthur___> i want to burn like 600 pictures to a cd , F-spot/export/cd ,  says file to big 1.3 gb and it has an option to burn multi cd's but it only burns the first 300 or so and when i insert a new disk it dont burn the rest....
[17:53] <siddhion> edbian: i know what you are talking about.... that option is available when you are creating a partition from with in the installer only
[17:53] <greg__> ikonia, a plain-jane usb mp3 player. It worked fine in 9.04
[17:53] <soadkombucha> edbian: Unless anyone can think of ANYTHING
[17:53] <binaryme> shadows090: have you added a samba user and password?
[17:53] <ikonia> greg__: have you tried a different usb device to see if it's the controller or device in specific
[17:54] <greg__> ikonia, a card reade3r worked if plugged directly into the computer, but not the hub.
[17:54] <siddhion> edbian: when you create a partition from with in the installer the last two options are "USE AS" and "MOUNT POINT" ...these are the two options you are talking about right now.
[17:54] <binaryme> soadkombucha: long shot.  Can you remove that battery..  Internal 'clock battery' that is?
[17:54] <edbian> siddhion, No, you can def do this.  I've done it before.  If you click on the / partition (/dev/sda5 I'm guessing) what options do you have to do to it?  You are at the manually partition screen right?
[17:54] <shadows090> binaryme: yes. i can't get any folder to show up from another computer though. to tell the truth, i'm not sure where it's supposed to show up. i'm setting it up via terminal on a fresh install of server 10.04. so i don't know where it should show up on another computer
[17:55] <ikonia> greg__: "the hub" ?
[17:55] <shadows090> binaryme: i've never used it before, if you didn't catch that :p
[17:55] <h4b0> has anyone experiences with lucid lynx and acpi? i have now the second pc where i need to set acpi=off and then ubuntu runs fast. otherwise i have to press a blank-key to get the pc doing anything at  each single action during opening screen, booting, installation aso...
[17:55] <nadeem> i would like to ask how could i get the boot menu
[17:55] <greg__> ikonia, yes a powered usb hub
[17:55] <edbian> siddhion, yeah, get to that screen and change the use as but don't change anything else.  How do you get there?
[17:55] <nadeem> i try to use esc but nothing happen
[17:55] <ikonia> greg__: what file system is on the mp3 plater ?
[17:55] <gausie> im having problems configuring my touchscreen. found a similar problem on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6xZqakN-M can anyone help?
[17:55] <ikonia> player
[17:55] <edbian> siddhion, Sorry this is so difficult.  I can't very well install ubuntu on something to follow along so I have to fly blind here.
[17:55] <binaryme> shadows090: ok, have you shared any folders?
[17:55] <greg__> ikonia, vfat
[17:56] <xnetmasterx> hello guys... i wanna move to ubuntu but can't make my USB bootable,someone to help please? (at this time I'm on fedora 13 but on #fedora channel refuse to help me out)
[17:56] <ikonia> greg__: does dmesg not show anything at all when it's plugged in, does "lsusb" show anything
[17:56] <frxstrem> is it possible to get the UDID of an iPod touch in Ubuntu?
[17:56] <calum> ikonia:There is absolutely no-one in ##winehq
[17:56] <siddhion> edbian: yes at the "manually specific" screen. so I click on /dev/sda5/ and its format type is ext4. its mount point is blank. its size is 10g
[17:56] <Akiraa> ikonia: oh, on multiple occasions I wound up with a IA64 iso because I thought it was the intel64 architecture, somehow the instal always failed :p
[17:56] <ikonia> xnetmasterx: what tools are you using to make your usb work
[17:56] <ikonia> calum: #winehq sorry
[17:56] <binaryme> shadows090: by going into you home folder (or whatever) in and right clicking - then selecting share
[17:56] <edbian> siddhion, Mount point!  Change it to /
[17:56] <calum> ikonia:k Thanks.
[17:57] <ne7work> hello all how to run something in background?
[17:57] <shadows090> binaryme: i've created a couple dirs and tried sharing, yes, but i can't see them on another computer
[17:57] <greg__> ikonia, i'll try dmesg and lsusb. thanks
[17:57] <llutz> ne7work: cmd &
[17:57] <ne7work> ctrl+c is for stop any process what i need to click for background?
[17:57] <ne7work> llutz, what?
[17:57] <shadows090> binaryme: oh, it's from a server without gdm or kde, just terminal
[17:57] <nadeem> i do hold the shift key to see the boot menu but nothing happen
[17:57] <nadeem> what is the problem
[17:57] <nadeem> ?
[17:57] <transformer7> Hi, can someone help? Got 'broken packages' have to repair with apt-get but I don't know how....help please...
[17:58] <ikonia> transformer7: what package
[17:58] <llutz> ne7work: "your-cmd &"   or "your-cmd" then press ctrl-z and type "bg"
[17:58] <binaryme> shadows090:  try going into a console:  sudo smbpasswd -a user  (where user is your login name
[17:58] <transformer7> ikonia: don't know
[17:58] <istvan> hey, i keep having this problem were my installs run out of HD space after a few months. I have a lot of huge files, and a 1.5TB drive. if i look at the properties of my home folder it's only 1TB, but the drive is full. i assume the rest is hidden files. can I go thru with a terminal command and remove all the backup files?
[17:58] <xnetmasterx> ikonia i'm using "Unetbootin" to create the USB
[17:58] <xnetmasterx> image
[17:58] <greg__> ikonia, it shows the device in lsusb: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0781:74d0 SanDisk Corp., but it's not mounted
[17:58] <ikonia> transformer7: what command are you doing that gives you the broken package warning
[17:58] <siddhion> edbian: when I click it the EDIT PARTITION window comes up. I can only change .....oh wait. I have to define the USE AS section to ext4....now I can change the Mount Point.
[17:58] <ikonia> xnetmasterx: from what OS are you using unetbootin?
[17:58] <shadows090> binaryme: alright, done that with two users (one for the server, one for the host)
[17:58] <ikonia> greg__: interesting,
[17:58] <edbian> siddhion, Just do use as /
[17:59] <edbian> siddhion, What options do you have for mount point?
[17:59] <siddhion> edbian: should I check off "format the partition" ?
[17:59] <binaryme> shadows090:  restart samba (or reboot)
[17:59] <ikonia> greg__: do "sudo fdisk -l " do you see the disk ?
[17:59] <xnetmasterx> i'm using fedora 13
[17:59] <edbian> siddhion, Def don't format the partition
[17:59] <greg__> /var/log/messages says :Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[17:59] <shadows090> binaryme: alright, done
[17:59] <greg__> ikonia, ok
[17:59] <ikonia> xnetmasterx: ok - that's not supported here then
[17:59] <switchgirl> !beginners
[17:59] <edbian> siddhion, Uncheck it.  What options do you have as mount point?
[17:59] <siddhion> edbian: mount options = /, /boot, /home, /tmp....etc.
[17:59] <switchgirl> !irssi
[17:59] <edbian> siddhion, /
[17:59] <xnetmasterx> lol so tell me a tool that IT IS supported here
[17:59] <xnetmasterx> u.u
[17:59] <siddhion> edbian: no worries, it is unchecked
[18:00] <transformer7> there is 1 broken package according to systemupdater
[18:00] <edbian> siddhion, Pick the appropriate ones
[18:00] <binaryme> shadows090:  what machine are you trying to access it from?
[18:00] <transformer7> but do not know which one
[18:00] <ikonia> xnetmasterx: ubuntu is supported here, not fedora
[18:00] <mneptok> siddhion: re-installing?
[18:00] <edbian> mneptok, Yeah and I've flying blind :)
[18:00] <siddhion> edbian: ok i will choose / because this is the 10G partition
[18:00] <shadows090> binaryme: an ubuntu laptop on the same lan
[18:00] <xnetmasterx> ikonia... i wanna leave fedora to join ubuntu...
[18:00] <ikonia> transformer7: hit the "view detail" button on the updater
[18:00] <kop> THE_GFR|WORK, pre apologies to ikonia but for just a second  I'll editorialize at the risk of angering the natives . PulseAudio is a hopeless failure on ALL my hardware that affects all manner of processes other than audio . I have been able to hold it at bay up till 9.10 but since 9.04 is LTS that's where I'm at . Again PulseAudio is invasive garbage that needs a complete rethink or just let it die . You would think that the way devl hangs
[18:00] <kop> on to PulseAudio that there was some VC special interest $$ in there or something . There just has to be a better way to implement and control audio other than low level access to every aspect of an OS ...
[18:00] <edbian> siddhion, right
[18:00] <yancho> hi. how can i make flash player .so available for other users in ubuntu 9.04 please? firefox is 3.5.5.. thanks
[18:00] <ikonia> xnetmasterx: I understand that, however we don't support the other tools/platforms
[18:00] <Vooloo> how can I get temperature sensor working with intel i5 and gigabyte mobo? I have lm-sensors installed
[18:00] <shadows090> binaryme: as i said though, i'm not sure where the directory is supposed to show up on the machine i'm accessing it from. i've never used samba before
[18:00] <greg__> ikonia, no it's not listed
[18:00] <SlidingHorn> xnetmasterx: missed your question...what is it?
[18:00] <SlidingHorn> oh...nvm
[18:00] <ikonia> greg__: now that is odd
[18:01] <binaryme> shadows090:  can you see any machines on the network?
[18:01] <siddhion> edbian: and I just chose /home for my data partition
[18:01] <edbian> siddhion, good good
[18:01] <wisecrypt>  is anyone know where i can find ebox-trafficshaping module for lucid server
[18:01] <edbian> siddhion, It's all making sense now :)
[18:01] <binaryme> shadows090: places - Network?
[18:01] <siddhion> edbian: :) now with the Linux Swap I can not choose a mount point. I assume that is correct.
[18:01] <greg__> ikonia, /var/log/messages says:Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[18:01] <mneptok> kop: yup, you angered a native. me. file bugs and feature requests on the appropriate bugtracker. this channel exists for people to get help. it does not serve as a place for your (or anyone else's) cathartic rants.
[18:01] <shadows090> binaryme: yes, it shows a "Windows Network", and it says "failed to retrieve share list from server"
[18:01] <edbian> siddhion, But you can "use as swap" right?
[18:01] <ikonia> greg__: try this reboot without the device in, sudo tail -f /var/log/messages, put the device in and then pastebin the lines that come up
[18:02] <shadows090> binaryme: may be related, but my roommate has a windows network (that i'm not trying to access) so it may be his computer
[18:02] <shadows090> binaryme: windows computer**
[18:02] <siddhion> edbian: correct, "USE AS" is set to "swap area"
[18:02] <edbian> siddhion, It's right
[18:02] <greg__> ikonia, will do
[18:02] <siddhion> edbian: so i click forward now?
[18:02] <ikonia> greg__: it would be good to get a clean log (I know it's a drag) of what's happeneing
[18:02] <edbian> siddhion, Yep
[18:02] <binaryme> shadows090: ok.  on the laptop, share a folder by right click on one (or create one called shared) and shared it
[18:03] <willy_> hola
[18:04] <shadows090> binaryme: alright, i'm installing samba on my laptop right now (just had it installed on server before)
[18:04] <willy_> hay alguuien
[18:04] <sereal> What is the name of the program that you can just type a command into and it does it with out opening a shell (ie to load a gui application)
[18:04] <willy_> hooooooooola
[18:04] <SlidingHorn> sereal: terminal
[18:04] <erUSUL> !es | willy_
[18:04] <ikonia> willy_: you said that already
[18:05] <binaryme> shadows090:  samba emulates windows networking.   It has to be on both for them to communitcate using the smb protocol
[18:05] <sereal> Slidinghorse, no, not make a terminal. it's just a small gui, that you can type one command into
[18:05] <SlidingHorn> sereal: or you can press Alt+F2 for a command launcher
[18:05] <CaptainTrek> sereal:  try pressing Alt+F2, see if it pops up a small window
[18:05] <edbian> siddhion, How's it going?
[18:05] <SlidingHorn> dont know the name of it
[18:05] <shadows090> binaryme: oh wow. i didn't know it had to be installed on both
[18:05] <sereal> whats the name of the command launcher?
[18:05] <sereal> i'm using fluxbox
[18:05] <hart> could someone help me with alsa+pulseaudio ?
[18:05] <jamshid> how to compile Xchat on ubuntu
[18:05] <shadows090> binaryme: should i restart real quick? it said to restart session
[18:05] <CaptainTrek> sereal: then ask in fluxbox
[18:05] <sereal> no, it's a gnome app
[18:05] <sereal> I have gnome
[18:05] <CaptainTrek> jamshid:  its in the repos: sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:05] <binaryme> shadows090:  you may also need to set a smbpasswd on the laptop as  described before
[18:05] <edbian> sereal, gnome-do?
[18:05] <sereal> I just need the name of the actual program that command launcher is
[18:06] <SlidingHorn> jamshid: you shouldn't need to compile it, it's in the repos sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:06] <binaryme> shadows090: yep
[18:06] <siddhion> edbian: I clicked forward and a pop up  came up saying "The file system on /dev/sda5 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. Directories containing system files (/etc,/lib,/usr, /var, ....) that already exist under any defined mountpoint will be deleted during the install. Please ensure you have backed up any critical data before installing.    Should I press Continue or Go Back?
[18:06] <shadows090> binaryme: ok. brb
[18:06] <arand> hart: details makes hrlping considerably easier ;)
[18:06] <edbian> siddhion, Continue.  That partition is empty
[18:06] <kreppnar> i so want a FriendlyARM mini2440
[18:06] <funkyHat> hart: is pulseaudio equaliser available in the repositories, or from a website?
[18:07] <edbian> siddhion, Do you understand what it is saying?  It's afraid you had some old linux system installed with / there and it's telling you the folders will be erased if that's true.
[18:07] <erUSUL> !ppa | funkyHat
[18:07] <kiamo> how does typing in another language work in ubuntu?  I want to be able to type in simplified chinese.  Is it anything like the windows IME thing?
[18:07] <funkyHat> erUSUL: thanks, but that's not completely relevant ⢁ )
[18:07] <SlidingHorn> kiamo: requires the language pack, and possibly a specialized keyboard
[18:07] <erUSUL> !scim
[18:07] <siddhion> edbian:ok cool.so now i am step 6. I chose my name and password ...and clicked forward
[18:07] <hart> funkyHat: well from repo i think
[18:07] <edbian> siddhion, It's easy from here on out! :)
[18:07] <erUSUL> funkyHat: i use a ppa that has pa equalizer.
[18:08] <erUSUL> funkyHat: so completely relevan
[18:08] <funkyHat> hart: does that sound familiar?
[18:08] <hart> E: pid.c: Daemon already running.
[18:08] <hart> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[18:08] <greg__> ikonia, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FTvNxt2y
[18:08] <hart> that my failt when i run pulseaudio
[18:08] <funkyHat> hart: pulseaudio should be running already
[18:08] <erUSUL> funkyHat: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[18:08] <siddhion> edbian: you r dope!
[18:08] <layo> how to convert .flv file in mp3 using one clik? nautilus script?
[18:08] <kiamo> SlidingHorn, I have installed the language pack, but I don't see how to change the keyboard type easily from one to the other.  This process is very simple in windows, so I expect it to be better in Linux xD hehe
[18:08] <funkyHat> erUSUL: thanks, that's more relevant ;D
[18:08] <gothenburg> hej
[18:08] <hart> funkyHat: i just need this bass down a notch
[18:08] <edbian> siddhion, Ha ha,  thanks
[18:08] <siddhion> edbian: areyou on Twitter?
[18:09] <edbian> siddhion, Nope, facebook and I have my own website: http://ednovak.net
[18:09] <hart> funkyHat: i dont have pulse in systemsettings -> multimedia/suond
[18:09] <edbian> siddhion, but no twitter :P
[18:09] <trism> kiamo: yes it is very much like the windows ime, you can install and set it up with System/Administration/Language Support (install the input methods), then you can configure it with System/Preferences/Ibus Preferences (since ibus is the default now instead of scim), then you can activate it in a text field with ctrl+space
[18:09] <hart> funkyHat: the device but in gstreamer-properties is pulseaudio but it tells :
[18:09] <siddhion> edbian: thanks man. i havent facebook. but i shall check your site out.
[18:09] <trism> kiamo: make sure you set the input method to ibus in the Language Support dialog
[18:09] <backharlow> Startup disk creator hangs on finishing...
[18:10] <edbian> siddhion, Thanks, glad I could help with your install! :)
[18:10] <_pg_> omg where did deinterlace go in handbrake?
[18:10] <jamshid> when i install google-talk from software center  i'm getting  Requires installation of untrusted packages
[18:10] <jamshid> prism prism-google-talk
[18:10] <GG> Hello everybody
[18:11] <hart> pulseaudio sound server: failed to connect: connection refused
[18:11] <siddhion> edbian: yeah that meant soo much to me. so it that you on the front page?
[18:11] <aziz_say> how can i use dial up on ubuntu?
[18:11] <edbian> siddhion, yep
[18:11] <edbian> ha ha
[18:11] <hart> funkyHat: i wouldnt want to put maverick i want this fixed man
[18:11] <SlidingHorn> jamshid, try doing it from either synaptic or apt-get.  check what programs are brought along with it.  prism, AFAIK shouldn't be necessary
[18:11] <siddhion> edbian: cool you look like a good guy : )
[18:11] <GG> I just finished a BluRay player. for Linux Is there someone who have a BluRay Disc Reader for testing it ? (sorry for my bad english, I'm french)
[18:11] <funkyHat> hart: can you tell me how you got pulseaudio-equalizer installed?
[18:11] <kiamo> aaaaah thanks trism :)
[18:11] <edbian> siddhion, Ha, thanks! :)
[18:11] <shadows090> binaryme: ok, restarted session. when i try to "service smbd start" i get "rejected send message" with an error
[18:12] <hart> funkyHat: from :
[18:12] <siddhion> edbian: : ) sute thing
[18:12] <shishire> something's up with the ubuntu keyserver.  I can only connect intermittantly.  I think it might be overloaded.
[18:12] <hart> funkyhat psyke83-ppa-lucid.list
[18:13] <greg__> ikonia, still there?
[18:13] <synrat> is anyone using selinux on lucid ?
[18:13] <hart> funkyHat: it worked with kde 4.4 but when i put 4.5 it doesnt work
[18:13] <aziz_say> how to install google talk on ubuntu?
[18:13] <resno> funkyHat: im booting up now
[18:13] <hart> funkyHat: where was that image burn to stick again?
[18:13] <funkyHat> resno: hurrah!
[18:13] <hart> funkyHat: what was the program called
[18:13] <shadows090> binaryme: nevermind, i was in su before
[18:13] <erik__> ljgfmvçld.v
[18:14] <funkyHat> hart: the package is called unetbootin. I don't know if there is a kde version, I assumed you were using gnome
[18:14] <resno> funkyHat: ok, im in ubuntu. and the touchpad is out
[18:14] <aziz_say> SlidingHorn: what does mean  synaptic?
[18:15] <hart> funkyHat: ok
[18:15] <funkyHat> resno: can you pastebin the output of « lspci -v » and the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if it exists)
[18:15] <kop> so the scenario is use "twinkle" to make a voip connection and then quit . Then use skype to make a connection and then quit . So back at twinkle now "cannot access mic device is busy , cannot access speaker device is busy , . I need a way to see what resources twinke and skype are using like piping lsof to a file and generating diffs of something  . so far I'm getting nowhere ...
[18:15] <jamshid> SlidingHorn: does sofware center work or it's for only watching?
[18:15] <binaryme> shadows090:  can you see anything more on the network now?
[18:15] <SlidingHorn> aziz_say, it's the default software install/remove program with ubuntu.  should be in Menu > System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[18:16] <shadows090> binaryme: hey man i appreciate all of the help. i'm going to compare the smb.conf files on my two machines and try to get it working correctly
[18:16] <shadows090> binaryme: i can see the one I shared from the laptop (not the server)
[18:16] <funkyHat> hart: I don't know exactly how the audio stack works in kde either, you might be better off asking in #kubuntu
[18:16] <resno> funkyHat: i just got an error: serious kernel prolem
[18:16] <GG> I just finished my new software which can read BluRay Disc on Linux. Is there someone who have a BluRay Disc Reader for testing it ? (sorry for my bad english, I'm french)
[18:16] <binaryme> shadows090: try compying the smb.conf to the server
[18:16] <funkyHat> resno: ooH!
[18:16] <resno> funkyHat: im waiting on the broswer to open to dpaste :)
[18:16] <SlidingHorn> jamshid, to be honest, I have never used software center.  It's supposed to be an "easier" method to install software, but I've heard of issues, so I tend to recommend synaptic or apt-get
[18:17] <shadows090> binaryme: yeah thanks i'll give that a shot now. is there a way to select all in either nano or vi?
[18:17] <binaryme> shadows090: yes, but I can't remember how of the top of my had....   try man vi
[18:18] <shadows090> binaryme: i know it's a PITA, i'm working over ssh in terminal only. it's a first, but it's on really old hardware and i couldn't get gnome or kde working. alright thanks
[18:18] <LogicalDash> There is one particular application that looks bad under my current GNOME theme. I'd like to make that application, and no other, use a different theme. How?
[18:18] <funkyHat> shadows090: in vim if you have vim-gnome or vim-full installed you can do ggVG then "+y to copy everything to the X clipboard (assuming that's what you want to do)
[18:18] <SlidingHorn> LogicalDash, what program, and in what way do you want it to look different?
[18:18] <binaryme> shadows090: you could try a live distro like puppylinux or dsl
[18:19] <siddhion> edbian: so it seems to have loaded properly. Ubuntu Lucid recognizes my wireless connection but when Iclick it to connect to it a popup asks me for my WPA & WPA2 Personal password. How do I acquire this password?
[18:19] <binaryme> shadows090: they are designed to work on old hardware with limitted resourses
[18:19] <funkyHat> shadows090: if you're trying to copy a file to another machine it'd be easier to just use scp or something
[18:19] <SlidingHorn> shadows090: you can also take a look at Lubuntu - I have xubuntu with LXDE running on the laptop i'm using right now...machine's a dog, but screams w/ lxde
[18:19] <LogicalDash> SlidingHorn, it's a Java app called GURPS Character sheet. Normally I use a dark background and light text, but this app uses custom colors. Only it fails to override my colors in some instances. Lame, I know.
[18:20] <shadows090> binaryme: yeah. i took the gui's not working as a way to force me to learn the terminal. and thanks i'll look into lubuntu. i have a feeling copying the config files will work
[18:20] <binaryme> shadows090: ok, best of luck.
[18:20] <shadows090> binaryme: thanks a lot man
[18:20] <resno> funkyHat: http://dpaste.com/206475/
[18:20] <LogicalDash> I was trying to do it by making a new user account and re-themeing that, but this introduced a whole new can of worms...
[18:20] <resno> funkyHat: its weird, the machine hasnt shutdown like normally
[18:21] <funkyHat> resno: computers are scared of me. it knows I'm helping so it's behaving
[18:21] <kop> resno, I just club mine to death with a clue by four when the need arises
[18:22] <SlidingHorn> kop: so a baby seal walks into a club......  sorry, couldn't resist
[18:22] <SlidingHorn> LogicalDash: I'm not finding anything at this point...still looking
[18:22] <siddhion> edbian: I assumed it was askingme for my Ubuntu passowrd so I typed it in and then it asked me to create some key ring password. I did that and entered it. Still I can not connect with Firefox\
[18:22] <funkyHat> resno: arp. I needed lsusb -v not lspci
[18:23] <kop> SlidingHorn, nothing like having to listien to my own material , fair punisment for my occasional rants
[18:23] <resno> funkyHat: http://dpaste.com/206476/
[18:23] <LogicalDash> I've been able to change a few aspects of the appearance by specifying a different gtkrc file in the environment variable GTK2_RC_FILE. But the colors don't seem to change. Not all of them, anyway.
[18:23] <LogicalDash> Possibly I just need the "correct" gtkrc file.
[18:23] <kop> so the scenario is use "twinkle" to make a voip connection and then quit . Then use skype to make a connection and then quit . So back at twinkle now "cannot access mic device is busy , cannot access speaker device is busy , . I need a way to see what resources twinke and skype are using like piping lsof to a file and generating diffs of something  . so far I'm getting nowhere ...
[18:26] <ikonia> greg__: back now
[18:26] <thewoolleyman> how do I write an upstart script to call a custom stop script for my service?
[18:27] <ikonia> thewoolleyman: upstart is just a shell script, it does need certain varibles, there is good documentation, or use an existing one as an example
[18:27] <funkyHat> resno: hm. can you try that again but with sudo?
[18:27] <funkyHat> resno: sudo lsusb -v that is
[18:27] <thewoolleyman> ikonia I have looked at docs and examples, still stumped
[18:27] <ikonia> thewoolleyman: then you can't write one
[18:27] <thewoolleyman> ikonia: have looked at docs and examples...
[18:27] <alsheeba> is it possible to run google api in empathy ? forexample a translater or transliteration api's from google
[18:27] <ikonia> thewoolleyman: however, if you aske specific questions, we can help
[18:28] <greg__> ikonia, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FTvNxt2y....hope that's what you meant by pastebin.
[18:28] <thewoolleyman> ikonia: ok, I want upstart to invoke '/bin/myservice stop -someparam' when it stops myservice
[18:28] <siddhion> edbian: well I will figure this out on the forums or comeback later...thanks again!
[18:28] <ikonia> thewoolleyman: ok, so that should be a very straight forward init / upstart script, what part are you not clear on ?
[18:29] <resno> funkyHat: second time around :) http://dpaste.com/206476/
[18:29] <ikonia> greg__: bang on, ok very interesting, it see's your device, however it's reseting it and marking it as offline, which is why you can't mount it, the interesting question is why
[18:29] <thewoolleyman> ikonia: on exactly how to specify a stop command vs. a start command.
[18:29] <ikonia> thewoolleyman: the examples show that
[18:29] <greg__> ikonia, i found a bug report with nos solution
[18:30] <SlidingHorn> not to go OT, but i love seeing all these threads in the forums "ubuntu killed my machine" -- no...*YOU* killed your machine...ubuntu just did what you told it to.
[18:30] <ikonia> greg__: ok, subscribe to that bug, put your findings on it and help work it through
[18:30] <greg__> ikonia, ok will do.
[18:30] <kiamo> Where can I find additional dictionaries for the dictionary app in ubuntu?  Specifically I want a chinese-english dictionary :)
[18:31] <SothenI> galera, numa rede, como faço para acessar uma das maquinas via ssh externamente?
[18:32] <SothenI> a rede possui um roteador...claro...
[18:32] <SlidingHorn> kiamo: try stardic? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/stardit-tools
[18:32] <funkyHat> resno: it looks like linux just isn't finding your touchpad ⢁| ... I don't have a working laptop here so I can't test what it *should* show up though...
[18:32] <funkyHat> resno: I'm assuming it works perfectly in windows, so it's not a hardware issue?
[18:33] <resno> funkyHat: yes it works fine there
[18:33] <SlidingHorn> kiamo: also http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/stardict (stardict-tools is there too)
[18:33] <kiamo> SlidingHorn, page not found :\
[18:33] <resno> funkyHat: im wishing the larger issue popped up... but it seems pretty content now
[18:33] <thewoolleyman> ikonia: in http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas , it says "The [exec] command gets run in "start" action" - which implies it doesn't get run in stop action?  And how can I tell it to invoke a different script/params during start vs stop?
[18:33] <kiamo> SlidingHorn, ah there we go :)
[18:33] <SlidingHorn> kiamo: should be able to sudo apt-get install stardict
[18:34] <SlidingHorn> gotta run to the BMV...pray for me, lol
[18:34] <kiamo> running it now :)
[18:34] <alsheeba> is it possible to run google api in empathy ? forexample a translater or transliteration api's from google
[18:34] <funkyHat> resno: what's the model of the laptop?
[18:35] <resno> funkyHat: latitude d810
[18:40] <looksharp> hello
[18:41] <looksharp> how can I download a program
[18:41] <looksharp> what is the command
[18:41] <looksharp> yum install ?
[18:41] <SlidingHorn> looksharp: what program are you trying to get?
[18:41] <looksharp> any
[18:41] <looksharp> give me the command line
[18:41] <gumpert345> hi, I use the live-initramfs package to load a squashfs file into ram from a http server, the system boots and works except for the NIC that was just used to download the OS, what can I do now?
[18:41] <looksharp> forexample
[18:41] <looksharp> mozilla
[18:41] <FloodBot3> looksharp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <SlidingHorn> looksharp:  debian based systems use apt-get in place of yum
[18:42] <looksharp> ok thanks
[18:42] <SlidingHorn> looksharp: for more info, in your terminal type: man apt-get
[18:42] <greezmunkey> I'm looking for a text editor that has block select mode, any ideas? Textpad for windows will do it, but idk about *nix possibilities.
[18:42] <drizzt_> greezmunkey, try OO Writer
[18:42] <MeanEYE> greezmunkey, Geany... if you are looking for Gnome/GTK+
[18:43] <looksharp> man apt-get
[18:43] <tsigwt> hi from brazil ;)
[18:43] <funkyHat> resno: well it's weird, your touchpad just doesn't appear to exist as far as Linux is concerned ⢁|
[18:43] <greezmunkey> Checking them now, thanks :)
[18:43] <aziz_say> how to install google talk?
[18:43] <SlidingHorn> greezmunkey: UltraEdit might work for your purposes
[18:43] <resno> funkyHat: it works on the livecd :(
[18:43] <MeanEYE> greezmunkey, :D yw...
[18:43] <SlidingHorn> looksharp: this is an IRC channel, you want to use a terminal: Menu > Accessories > Terminal
[18:44] <looksharp> ah ok
[18:44] <resno> funkyHat: this laptop runs 9.10, should i try another update/ dist update?
[18:45] <funkyHat> resno: hm, I just noticed there's an EndSection in the wrong place in your xorg.conf (line 185 in the pastebin)... is that in the actual file, or just something that happened when you pastebinned it?
[18:45] <thewoolleyman> how can I tell upstart to call a stop script which is different than a start script?  e.g. start is /bin/start-myservice and stop is /bin/stop-myservice?
[18:45] <resno> funkyHat: is there an easy way to output it, so i can copy and paste it?
[18:46] <MeanEYE> thewoolleyman, come again?
[18:46] <thewoolleyman> I want to write an upstart script for a service which has different scripts/params to start and stop it
[18:47] <KnightStalker> Hello
[18:47] <MeanEYE> hi
[18:47] <funkyHat> resno: http://dpaste.com/206483/
[18:47] <SlidingHorn> KnightStalker: howdy...how can we help?
[18:47] <muep`> thewoolleyman: I do not believe this is necessarily the correct solution, but you could write a wrapper script that can both start and stop it
[18:47] <KnightStalker> my gnome repeatedly says gnome-settings-daemon:1979: WARNING **:connection failed,reconnecting
[18:47] <KnightStalker> after failing loading some modules
[18:47] <KnightStalker> I tried gnome-session to load it anyway,normal way doesn't work either
[18:47] <funkyHat> resno: I removed the ServerFlags section, DontZap is default anyway
[18:48] <KnightStalker> SlidingHorn: Yeah,thanks ^_^
[18:48] <thewoolleyman> muep`: I don't think that is correct either, I'm trying to find the right solution.  What does upstart do by default to stop a service?
[18:48] <SlidingHorn> KnightStalker: (try to keep as few lines as possible - i.e. no using Enter as punctuation) what modules were you loading?
[18:49] <MeanEYE> thewoolleyman, should be calling script located in /etc/init.d with start|stop|status parameter
[18:49] <MeanEYE> thewoolleyman, I think
[18:49] <KnightStalker> SlidingHorn,I dont know,I just type gnome-session =(
[18:49] <thewoolleyman> MeanEYE: Unfortunately, the service doesn't have a script like that, and I'm trying to avoid writing one.  That's the problem.
[18:49] <KnightStalker> gnome-panel,gnome-screensaver,nautils,gnome-power-manager,gnome-user-share and ......... fail
[18:50] <MeanEYE> thewoolleyman, that's the proper way to do it... why avoid it?
[18:51] <KnightStalker> SlidingHorn: and the exact problem is Failed to fork (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:51] <thewoolleyman> MeanEYE: I thought upstart was supposed to replace /etc/init.d scripts
[18:51] <looksharp> how i install metasploit
[18:52] <KnightStalker> SlidingHord,you still there? I can go without gnome but I atleast need my ndiswrappered wireless device
[18:53] <MeanEYE> thewoolleyman, on the link I gave you, you can find additional information about starting and stoping services... take a look
[18:53] <SlidingHorn> looksharp: first: sudo apt-get install libzlib-ruby libopenssl-ruby  -- then go to http://www.metasploit.com/framework/download/
[18:53] <mj8741> my company uses 12 machines running 9.10 wanting to update to 10.04.  however just blank screen when booting up.  all machines have nvidia geforce 6150 le graphics cards - any ideas - thanks
[18:54] <SlidingHorn> knightstalker: still looking
[18:54] <MeanEYE> mj8741, nothing weird... happens after upgrade...
[18:54] <evon> Hello there. I have a sata/ide to usb adapter and ubuntu is not detecting harddrives connected to it. Can anyone help me with this please?
[18:54] <MeanEYE> mj8741, I've expirienced the same on all upgrades from 9.10 to 10.04
[18:55] <mj8741> MeanEYE: screens never come on! stays blank!
[18:55] <CaptainTrek> evon: you knwo that most hard drives have a secondary power requirement, right?
[18:55] <fool_> does anyone know of any wifi heat map ?
[18:55] <MeanEYE> mj8741, oh... that's another thing... is the X server starting?
[18:55] <hayanbom> guys, i've one question , what is name of layout engine of internet explorer browser ?
[18:55] <MeanEYE> hayanbom, trident I think
[18:55] <fool_> trident
[18:56] <mj8741> MeanEYE:  can't tell, how could I find that out?
[18:56] <hayanbom> MeanEYE, thansk for
[18:56] <MeanEYE> hayanbom, yw
[18:56] <resno> funkyHat: i rebooted now my machie looks frozen at checking battery state
[18:56] <MeanEYE> mj8741, is the screen blinking... ?
[18:56] <fool_> does anyone know of any wifi heat map ?
[18:56] <mj8741> MeanEYE: no, just nothing - computers working though and hearing startup sound.
[18:57] <MeanEYE> mj8741, can you please try to get to console by pressgin CTRL+ALT+F1
[18:57] <SlidingHorn> KnightStalker: so far, no luck...you also might wanna try the forums -- more eyes = more help: http://ubuntuforums.org
[18:57] <KnightStalker> SlidingHorn: Well,I can load via Failsafe GNOME,do you know how to load network-manager through it?
[18:58] <mj8741> MeanEYE: after that what should I look for?
[18:58] <OpenSourcedNick> /server irc.gimp.org
[18:58] <OpenSourcedNick> crap
[18:58] <darksifer> hi channel
[18:58] <tailsn00b> hello
[18:58] <MeanEYE> mj8741, you should be presented with login console
[18:58] <MeanEYE> hi!
[18:58] <kickar> hey there can someone help me to take care of cgi file in apache ?
[18:58] <ripthejacker> hi everyone
[18:58] <mj8741> MeanEYE: thanks - will go try that and be back... thanks
[18:58] <ripthejacker> please help me to use gtalk in linux
[18:58] <resno> kickar: you will likely need to ask in #httpd
[18:58] <ripthejacker> i installed pidgin and empathy
[18:58] <KnightStalker> how to load network-manager manually?
[18:59] <tailsn00b> argh darn pidgin not schrollint, anyway how do mouse keys work
[18:59] <ripthejacker> both crash when i try to use gtalk audio chat
[18:59] <tailsn00b> how do mouse keys work
[18:59] <MeanEYE> mj8741, sure... if you have access to the console, then you can find problem... otherwise that means system is locked
[18:59] <Neosano> Not sure if it's a right place to ask, but I forgot my TrueCrypt password(stupid me), and I'm trying to dictionary attack my own truecrypt file... the problem is: how to check quickly if password is good? what parameters should I use?
[18:59] <fool_> KnightStalker: sudo service network-manager start
[18:59] <MeanEYE> KnightStalker, Applet?
[18:59] <kiamo> SlidingHorn, stardict is awesome!!! Thanks for the suggestion :D
[18:59] <ripthejacker> please someone help
[19:00] <Neosano> something like "truecrypt -t -p=mypassword myfile" :-S ?
[19:00] <KnightStalker> fool_:it says its already running
[19:00] <SlidingHorn> knightstalker: in terminal: network-manager-gnome  (does it highlight for you if I don't type your name case-sensitive?)
[19:00] <SlidingHorn> kiamo: glad you like it -- happy to help :)
[19:00] <fool_> KnightStalker: then it is running
[19:00] <MeanEYE> ripthejacker, pvt pls... :D I'll guide you
[19:00] <darksifer> am trying to install mysql-workbench on lucid 32bit but i get a compiling error configure: error: "google-ctemplate not found". i download ctemplate-0.97 from code.google and already install it but does not solve the problem. can some one help solve this problem
[19:00] <ripthejacker> MeanEYE: i need to use gtalk on linux
[19:00] <darksifer> thanks in advance
[19:00] <ripthejacker> MeanEYE: i tried pidgin and empathy
[19:00] <kickar> resno,  its ubuntu issue
[19:00] <KnightStalker> SlidingHorn:It says network-manager-gnome: command not found
[19:01] <ripthejacker> MeanEYE: but both crash when i try to us audio chat
[19:01] <kickar> i have done all i had to do
[19:01] <kickar> and still nothing
[19:01] <MeanEYE> ripthejacker, did you try adding Pidgin PPA to software sources?
[19:01] <MeanEYE> ripthejacker, ubuntu repo doesn't have the latest version of Pidgin
[19:01] <ripthejacker> ok i'll do that
[19:02] <MeanEYE> ripthejacker, latest version of pidgin is 2.7.1 ubuntu has 2.6.8 I think
[19:02] <ripthejacker> MeanEYE: but the version i installed has audio chat
[19:02] <MeanEYE> ripthejacker, true... but you should try with the newest version
[19:02] <CaptainTrek> ripthejacker:  pidgin doesnt work with ALL audio chats with ALL protocols, that might be the issue
[19:02] <ripthejacker> MeanEYE: ok
[19:02] <ripthejacker> MeanEYE: i will install it then
[19:03] <MeanEYE> CaptainTrek, GTalk works... I tried it... but I have the latest version...
[19:03] <tailsn00b> how do mouse keys work, CaptainTrek, and have i seen u before
[19:03] <ripthejacker> CaptainTrek: but it says it supports gtalk audio chat
[19:03] <mariodavid> hi
[19:04] <CaptainTrek> o.O triple highlight ...
[19:04] <CaptainTrek> um...
[19:04] <mneptok> darksifer: why are you compiling? why not grab the Debian package? - http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads
[19:04] <MeanEYE> ^^
[19:04] <tailsn00b> Jene 12
[19:04] <CaptainTrek> ripthejacker:  it MIGHT need the latest version for that (read MeanEYE's message)
[19:04] <ripthejacker> CaptainTrek: ok thanks
[19:05] <CaptainTrek> tailsn00b:  i don't think i've seen you.  and define "how do mouse keys work" in context of what you need help with
[19:05] <tailsn00b> okay, how do i left click and rightclick
[19:05] <CaptainTrek> you press the buttons on the mouse
[19:05]  * mneptok blinks
[19:05] <MeanEYE> hahah :D
[19:05] <darksifer> mneptok: thanks
[19:06] <tailsn00b> CaptainTrek: I thought i saw you on some video game message board ages ago, but then again, nicknames aren't exclusive it maybe someone else
[19:06] <mneptok> darksifer: np. "sudo dpkg-i /path/to/the/downloaded.deb"
[19:06] <CaptainTrek> tailsn00b:  prob not me then
[19:06] <tailsn00b> your right, it was a board about some video game character
[19:07] <mneptok> darksifer: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/downloaded.deb  <--- missed a space
[19:07] <darksifer> mneptok: OK
[19:08] <mneptok> darksifer: you may need to also install liblua5.1-0 libzip1 libmysqlclient15off python-pexpect via apt-get
[19:08] <tailsn00b> June 12
[19:09] <gumpert345> I found a solution for my live-initramfs network problem, but I dont want to log in somewhere, can I just leave a message somewhere to tell people how to fix it?
[19:10] <mneptok> gumpert345: Launchpad
[19:10] <gumpert345> do you have a link?
[19:10] <Mohascan> hi all
[19:10] <gumpert345> I just want to write down what happened and how I fixed it, with a guest account
[19:10] <darksifer> mneptok: i get an error when installing libmysqlclient15off. it says E: Couldn't find package libmysqlclient15off
[19:10] <evon> captaintrek: ummm yeah that's obvious ;-). Power is hooked up and everything.
[19:11] <mneptok> darksifer: you may need to also install liblua5.1-0 libzip1 libmysqlclient15off python-pexpect via apt-get
[19:11] <mj8741> MeanEYE: I can use nomodeset and boot - nouveau driver does not work with nvidia geforce 6150 le cards maybe?
[19:11] <tailsn00b> i need more usb
[19:11] <mneptok> (x2)
[19:11] <MeanEYE> gumpert345, www.lmgtfy.com/?q=launchpad
[19:11] <CaptainTrek> evon:  did you turn on power for it first THEN plug it into the adapter and computer
[19:11] <drew212> is there a way to store chats in empathy like there is in pidgin?
[19:11] <CaptainTrek> evon:  sometimes those SATA/IDE adaper to USB thingies can be tempermental
[19:12] <MeanEYE> mj8741, not really sure... I have the same card... and everything works... did you get the login console?
[19:12] <gumpert345> MeanEye I have to log in at launchpad
[19:12] <MeanEYE> gumpert345, yup...
[19:13] <MeanEYE> gumpert345, I think there's a way to login using your GMail or facebook... but am not sure...
[19:13] <gumpert345> whatever . . .
[19:13] <SlidingHorn> gumpert345: you're going to have to log in pretty much anywhere if you want to post/contribute
[19:13] <mj8741> MeanEYE: no, that didn't work, I had to go into grub menu and replace quiet splash with nomodeset
[19:13] <tailsn00b> n0 kEY
[19:13] <MeanEYE> mj8741, so it's nvidia driver problem?
[19:13] <kary> Hello, I have a server install of 10.04, and I just ran my updates and rebooted, and now the system won't boot fully.  Right now, i'm just trying to figure out how to get my grub boot screen so i can select my old kernel, but I can't get that to come up before boot.  I've pressed Esc numerous times.  Is there a new way?
[19:13] <Weedy> in the nm-applet there is a disable wireless option, can that function be called from the command line?
[19:13] <evon> captaintrek: yup did that too. i even tried rebooting
[19:13] <mneptok> tailsn00b: please stop rambling and either ask for or give support. this is a support channel.
[19:13] <SlidingHorn> mneptok: what repos are you using?  not available in lucid
[19:13] <Weedy> kary: hold shift
[19:13] <MeanEYE> kary, at which poing server locksup?
[19:14] <cipher421> i'm having boot problems with 10.04
[19:14] <kary> Weedy, Thank you, i'll try that
[19:14] <mj8741> MeanEYE:  I'll try a few things and be back... thanks
[19:14] <dsnyders> join #firefox
[19:14] <MeanEYE> mj8741, ok :D
[19:14] <Sytheon> Hello, I'm having a network problem after switching from xp to ubuntu 10.04; It cannot find my own wireless network while it can see other networks, I have no clue why and I could see and use it while I was using xp. I haven't got a clue.. Anyone?
[19:14] <CaptainTrek> cipher421:  more details
[19:14] <drew212> is there a way to store chats in empathy like there is in pidgin?
[19:14] <Weedy> Sytheon: hidden bssid?
[19:14] <MeanEYE> drew212, you mean chat history?
[19:14] <cipher421> boot freezes after "ureadahead-init .... error 4"
[19:14] <kary> MeanEYE, looks like it freezes after a check of partitions and says something like "init: ureadahead main process (327) terminated".  I'm running a software raid
[19:14] <martinknyc> can anyone help me with bcm4315 card on lucid ? i'm going nuts with the wifi, it's loaded via modprobe no erros i see this wlan0 interface in iwconfig, and NetworkManager can't see this card. i just found in deamon.log that nm is disabing wlan0 reason2.
[19:14] <cipher421> which i now know has nothing to do with the problem
[19:14] <SlidingHorn> Weedy: ifdown wlan0
[19:14] <mneptok> SlidingHorn: i use Karmic. but you can grab the libmysqlclient for Lucid, and then symlink it wherever Workbench wants it.
[19:14] <drew212> no, like, create a group and add chats that you can double click to join
[19:15] <tailsn00b> the cause of my problem is on our comp, there r 3 usb ports that work, i am copying files so 2 are in use, and the third can be keyboard or mouse, but not both
[19:15] <kary> cipher421, looks like we have the same problem :)
[19:15] <banker247> can someone explain to me this.. i have a directory set at www-data:root and everything works fine my permisions are 777. even when i set the directory to root:root since I have 777 why does the program not function correctly and display chmod errors?
[19:15] <tailsn00b> thats why i wanted to know how to use mousekeys
[19:15] <Weedy> SlidingHorn: no
[19:15] <cipher421> that ureadahead error is nothing to do with it
[19:15] <Sytheon> Weedy: no, it shouldn't be. I did try to connect to the ssid as if it were hidden. it didn't help
[19:15] <MeanEYE> kary, ... not sure then, maybe someone else here can help you...
[19:15] <kary> i'm going to boot old kernel first
[19:15] <Sytheon> Weedy: I can see the network on other computers
[19:15] <drew212> MeanEYE: in pidgin you can add chats to a group just like they're a contact so you can click them to join
[19:15] <MeanEYE> banker247, which program?
[19:16] <mobidev> hello guys
[19:16] <MeanEYE> drew212, you mean groupchat?
[19:16] <banker247> MeanEYE vtigercrm
[19:16] <mneptok> banker247: the httpd may complain that the permissions are *too* permissive.
[19:16] <MeanEYE> banker247, it's a web based CRM?
[19:16] <banker247> yea
[19:16] <drew212> MeanEYE: no, add a chat to a contacts list in empathy... like you can in pidgin
[19:16] <Weedy> Sytheon: what encryption?
[19:16] <banker247> meaneye i guess what i was asking if i understood the concept of file permisions accuratly
[19:16] <mneptok> banker247: and is your httpd actually running as www-data?
[19:16] <banker247> meaneye because i have it set to 775 www-data:root and everything works fine
[19:16] <SlidingHorn> banker247: it may also be an ownership issue.  chown to whatever user apache is using  (sugarcrm? - i preferred vtiger personally)
[19:17] <MeanEYE> banker247, try setting group permissions or setting group to that folder...
[19:17] <mobidev> sorry, ubuntu may have Qt4 from 10.04 or earler?
[19:17] <banker247> meaneye i mean everything works fine when i have 775 www-data:root set
[19:17] <Sytheon> Weedy: WPA/WPA2
[19:17] <banker247> what i was wondering for future isssues is why the root:root 777 didn't work.. since its 777
[19:17] <MeanEYE> banker247, if files of that CRM are set as root:root then webserver won't be able to access them...
[19:17] <banker247> meaneye even with 777?
[19:18] <banker247> meaneye is that because its root? if it was any other user it would work?
[19:18] <Weedy> Sytheon: try installing wireless backports
[19:18] <MeanEYE> the best practise is to chmod www-data:www-data
[19:18] <mneptok> banker247: is the dir 777? or is everything inside it 777 also?
[19:18] <MeanEYE> banker247, chmod them to www-data... you don't want anything as root
[19:19] <Sytheon> Weedy: Okay, I can find that in synaptic I guess?
[19:19] <Weedy> yes
[19:19] <banker247> meaneye the whole thing? so www-data:www-data?
[19:19] <MeanEYE> banker247, if you have apache2 installed
[19:19] <Redhammer_the_Ol> short question, how do I get the volume applet to be vertical again?
[19:19] <banker247> meaneye i have it set at 775 www-data:root right now and everythign works fine
[19:20] <kickar> hey
[19:20] <kickar> can someone help me with cgi?
[19:20] <MeanEYE> banker247, there you have it...
[19:20] <banker247> i just didn't understand why it would matter who the owner/group is if i have 777 on the file
[19:20] <kickar> i cant exec a file .. 9.10 and apache 2.2
[19:20] <MeanEYE> banker247, apache is run as www-data user... and tries to access files as that user...
[19:20] <thewoolleyman> MeanEYE: ikonia: got my answers on #upstart - thanks for your help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/593125
[19:20] <banker247> meaneye right but with 777 the "other" group has access to which mean everyone right?
[19:21] <SlidingHorn> kickar: might be overly simplified, but I'm no expert --- try: chmod +x <filename>
[19:21] <greg__> ikonia, I got it working.....changed usb mode in the player from auto-detect to msc
[19:21] <MeanEYE> banker247, you should avoid making o=rw directories... it's considered a security hole
[19:21] <ahmed> lo room
[19:22] <banker247> meaneye i understand that. i was testing a concept.. and dont know why it didn't work i'm still learning users/groups/persmisinos concepts
[19:22] <SailorReality> cyber lyfe
[19:22] <SailorReality> lyfe on the internet
[19:22] <MeanEYE> banker247, might be apache config is preventing usage from anything root... not sure though...
[19:23] <krikulis> It`s better than having wet dreams about Sailors
[19:23] <Serpentinex> Hello I have a question about saving :set ts=2 in gvim and :set number
[19:23] <EE_> if I want to multiboot a computer with ubuntu, win 7 and win 2008 server (just for playing around with) should i just start with win 2008 (oldest windows) or should i prepartition everything?
[19:24] <Serpentinex> Do ubuntu first but make sure to save enough for the windows partitions
[19:24] <MeanEYE> EE_, just make sure you install ubuntu last... windows will overwrite MBR
[19:24] <MeanEYE> Serpentinex, Win will kill grub...
[19:24] <Serpentinex> Idk worked for me :3
[19:24] <CaptainTrek> EE_: consider prepartitioning.  because Win7 likes to take up ALL space it can
[19:24] <CaptainTrek> xD
[19:24] <dsnyders> EE_, You may wish to consider virtualization
[19:24] <CaptainTrek> i agree with dsnyders on that as well
[19:24] <kary> Ok, so, booted the rescue mode did nothing different.  Just started to boot up and froze in the same spot
[19:24] <EE_> wow so many different answers
[19:24] <SlidingHorn> Serpentinex: I thought sure I had read somewhere that you should always install Windows first, as it takes everything it possibly can
[19:24] <MeanEYE> Serpentinex, yeah... if you have 2 drives or more
[19:25] <Serpentinex> Yeah I have 2 drives
[19:25] <banker247> meaneye is there a site i can go to to learn about users/groups because i'm not understanding things correctly
[19:25] <Serpentinex> maybe that is why it worked for me
[19:25] <Sytheon> Weedy: it's taking a while..
[19:25] <MeanEYE> banker247, I can help you ... just come to private chate
[19:25] <EE_> I can install a second HDD but dont really need the extra space. Got almost 700 GB on the one installed currently
[19:25] <matelot> > Bad: new password is too simple : how can I remove the password rule ?
[19:26] <EE_> The reason I ask is because I looked at the partitions currently on that computer with only windows 7 and I dont understand why there are three
[19:26] <tailsn00b> what is the keyboard shortcut to rename a file
[19:26] <LukeL> matelot enter the same password again, it should accept it
[19:26] <tailsn00b> in nautilus
[19:26] <qurvel> i'm using dsl. why am i not able to connect my.opera.com with network-manager? i can connect my.opera.com with 'sudo pon dsl-provider'
[19:26] <mobidev> guys, who not forget version ubuntu have start Qt4 support?
[19:27] <nenadagh> i deleted all /boot/ directory!!! need help!! how to reconfigure grub and the images from the directory????????
[19:27] <matelot> LukeL:  it doesn't work
[19:27] <EE_> Captain_Trek: if I prepartition would it simply be three partitions, one ext4, two NTFS?
[19:27] <flexo_> how can i configure who-ever-does-it (i suspect the wm) that when i make a window active (for example "show rhythmbox") it moves the window to my current workspace?
[19:27] <cipher421> ubuntu crashes on boot after "ureadahead exits with status 4"
[19:27] <cipher421> from fresh 10.04 install
[19:27] <MeanEYE> qurvel, you can't open that website?
[19:27] <matelot> LukeL: it keeps complaining password too simple
[19:27] <tailsn00b> f2
[19:27] <flexo_> (instead of just highlighting it in my window list, and have me click on it and take me to the workspace.. i hate it)
[19:28] <CaptainTrek> matelot:  so make your password more complex
[19:28] <matelot> CaptainTrek: don't want to type too much ;)
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> matelot:  you are using the passwd command? or setting the password how?
[19:28] <nenadagh> how can install a nes kernel in my installed linux from live-cd??? i deleted /boot/ directory!!
[19:28] <CaptainTrek> matelot: complex doesnt mean long
[19:28] <matelot> Dr_Willis: yes, "passwd"
[19:28] <matelot> CaptainTrek: just want to KISS
[19:29] <tailsn00b> crap my harddrive
[19:29] <CaptainTrek> matelot: try something: 8 - 10 chars, lowercase uppercase and numbers in the pass
[19:29] <tailsn00b> nm it just unpluggesd
[19:29] <CaptainTrek> matelot:  might fix it
[19:29] <evon> captaintrek, no ideas?
[19:29] <EE_> CaptainTrek: if I go with your suggestion of prepartitioning would I just need three? (one ext4, two NTFS)?
[19:29] <CaptainTrek> evon: nope
[19:29] <Kioho> Whats the most painless windows emulation program?
[19:29] <CaptainTrek> EE_ um... probly
[19:29] <mneptok> Kioho: WINE
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> matelot:  Hmm. root might be able to set a users password without the security warning
[19:29] <looksharp> how can i download metasploit in unbunt !!?
[19:29] <cipher421> anyone else having boot problems with 10.04?
[19:29] <fitoria>  #ubuntu-ni
[19:29] <Kioho> hmm, i know of Wine, but it doesnt work to all that i wanna use it for :p
[19:29] <MeanEYE> Kioho, VirtualBox :D
[19:30] <CaptainTrek> EE_:  i havent worked with windows server though, so consider using a vitrual environment instead
[19:30] <binaryme> EE_: if it already has three partitions, you need to know whats on them
[19:30] <Kioho> Kathe told me about some kind of windows emulation thingy
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> Kioho:  what are you wanting to do - that will dictate what to use.
[19:30] <Kioho> ah Virtualbox
[19:30] <mneptok> fitoria: "/join #ubuntu-ni" (sin comillas)
[19:30] <CaptainTrek> cipher421:  you arent giving us details of what you need help with
[19:30] <Kioho> that was what he told me, thanks Meaneye
[19:30] <SlidingHorn> kioho: you're going to have to work to set anything like that up...maybe virtualbox or vmware could work as well
[19:30] <matelot> There's got to be a way to remove this darn passwd rule
[19:30] <matelot> heck just desktop Ubuntu...
[19:30] <Kioho> virtualbox were way more useful than wine according to the dude i talked to yesterday =]
[19:31] <MeanEYE> Kioho, sorry, am not following :D
[19:31] <Kioho> and some work is always needed so thats no worries
[19:31] <Sytheon> weedy: Okay, I installed it, what now? it doesn't display it yet
[19:31] <mneptok> Kioho: they are 2 very different things.
[19:31] <Kioho> oh MeanEYE i meant that Virtualbox was what i was looking for hehe, some dude in here told me about it yesterday
[19:31] <Kioho> just forgot what it was named hehe
[19:31] <evon> captaintrek, there are no ubuntu drivers or anythign like that?
[19:31] <mneptok> Kioho: what is it you want to *do*? what is the goal?
[19:31] <Kioho> play daoc ^^
[19:31] <MeanEYE> Kioho, VBox is virtual machine... in which you can install windows... don't count on playing games though :D
[19:31] <EE_> binaryme: one of them is a 'boot' partition i know that
[19:32] <mneptok> Kioho: try WINE first.
[19:32] <Kioho> yup i tried that mneptok
[19:32] <Kioho> doesnt work correctly with daoc and daocportal unfortunatly
[19:32] <riyonuk> Can someone help me install Mac4Lin? It's not working, the install script just throws up a bunch of errors :/
[19:32] <SlidingHorn> kioho: if you want to play windows games, WINE will be your best bet...you should check the WineAppDB for compatibility
[19:32] <EE_> CaptainTrek: Ive used virtualbox in ubuntu before but couldnt get it to connect to the internet
[19:33] <EE_> CaptainTrek: virtualization as good as real install?
[19:33] <Kioho> yup i did that SlidingHorn but daocportal doesnt run properly with Wine :/
[19:33] <binaryme> EE_: if it is a standard Win7 install, then there nay be a small 'system' partion (100MB), a boot (as you  said) and a recoviery?
[19:33] <Kioho> gonna try vbox and see if that will wanna work
[19:33] <mattgyver> Anyone familiar with generating public RSA keys for ssh authorization?  Ive created the key however after installing on the client machine the server still doesn't prompt for the darn passphrase
[19:33] <EE_> binaryme: ill check right now
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> Ive never had issues getting VBirtuablbox connecting to the internet :) i did actually read teh Vbox docs/manual at the vbox homepage...
[19:34] <matelot> found it: sudo passwd your_user_name
[19:34] <EE_> binaryme: whatever they are, do you think if i prepartition that I have to separate those too or will win take the one i give it of three and split it up?
[19:34] <MeanEYE> matelot, you can just type passwd and it will change passwd for current user
[19:34] <SlidingHorn> kioho: check this out...someone got it working: http://www.dolserver.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=12136
[19:35] <Kioho> yeah i've been trying to get it to work by following all guides i found on dolserver >_>
[19:35] <binaryme> EE_: are you going to completely reinstall eveything?
[19:35] <EE_> binaryme: yes.
[19:35] <Kioho> thats actually the guide i followed the most
[19:35] <matelot> MeanEYE: I was trying to set a "simple" password
[19:36] <riyonuk> Mac4Lin gives me a lot of "Cannot open: No such file or directory", yet I'm looking at that file -_-
[19:36] <Kioho> unfortunatly the Password window in Daocportal doesnt show when using wine or mono
[19:36] <Kioho> hehe
[19:36] <binaryme> EE_: ok, providing you have backups of everything you want to keep,...
[19:36] <matelot> MeanEYE: it complains "too simple"
[19:36] <VCoolio> riyonuk: is it confirmed to work on lucid? for example the gdm part could be outdated; just install the icon and gtk theme, and global menu if you wish; what errors does it produce?
[19:36] <matelot> MeanEYE: so need to "sudo"
[19:36] <riyonuk> Id take a screenshot...if I could.
[19:36] <nenadagh> how can install a new kernel in my installed linux from live-cd??? i deleted /boot/ directory!!
[19:36] <EE_> binaryme: I like ubuntu best, my gf is linux shy so she gets win7, and I wanna play with server 2008 because I need to know it someday for my career in IT (still learning). and yes I have backups
[19:36] <MeanEYE> matelot, you should only get a warning but you shouldn't be prevented to set a simple password... also if you are changing password for root... that's a nono :D
[19:36] <SlidingHorn> kioho: you may want to try posting in the Ubuntu Gaming forum to see if anyone can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
[19:37] <EE_> binaryme: nothing important anyway, new computer
[19:37] <matelot> MeanEYE: No, it wouldn't let me...it keeps complaining......so I finally did the sudo
[19:37] <riyonuk> Installing Mac4Lin UI...
[19:37] <riyonuk> tar: GTK/Mac4Lin_GTK_Aqua_v1.0.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[19:37] <riyonuk> Thats pretty much all the errors(:
[19:37] <MeanEYE> matelot, ok :D ... glad it work:)
[19:37] <Kioho> oh ty SlidingHorn :)
[19:38] <CaptainTrek> riyonuk:  try using pastebin instead of pasting to the channel
[19:38] <binaryme> EE_: I would partition it so you have an NTFS partion for Win7 and an EXT4 partiotion for ubuntu + a small (2GB) partion for Linux Swap
[19:38] <CaptainTrek> !pastebin | riyonuk
[19:38] <VCoolio> riyonuk: are in the same folder as where you downloaded that archive file?
[19:38] <EE_> binaryme: 1 recovery partition, 1 boot/pagefile/crash drump/primary, 1 system, active, primary
[19:38] <aaro700930> riyonuk maybe slash is your problem
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  that the thing to give you a mac theme on ubuntu? Id suggest not messing with it. it can be a pain to remove. Plus theres allready a great many mac type themes out there.
[19:38] <ruggero> hello
[19:38] <EE_> binaryme: so you would prepartition? and you would give win 7 just the one NTFS?
[19:38] <SlidingHorn> ruggero: howdy, how can we help?
[19:38] <riyonuk> Dr_Willis, yeah, now I'm all worried about all the stuff that's installed. Linux gives me a headache :|
[19:39] <mj8741> MeanEYE: ok, I can boot by taking out quiet splash in the grub menu - then install.  However, after reboot - goes back to blank screen unless I go into boot grub and replace quiet splash with nomodeset.  Anyway to make that permanent?
[19:39] <riyonuk> aaro700930, slash?
[19:39] <binaryme> EE_: I would recommend using a virtual machine for Windows Server (virtualbox).
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  it just installed some themes, and can tweak some settings.. nothing major. but can be an annoyance
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  plus it really dosent act like a mac. just looks sort of like one.
[19:39] <aaro700930> riyonuk GTK/ that last character, is GTK a directory on your computer?
[19:39] <MeanEYE> mj8741, in grub config file... do you get X running? when you remove splash?
[19:39] <riyonuk> The ONLY think stopping me from using Linux, is the looks. I cannot stand how...outdated it looks any any themes I actually like, are all custom :
[19:40] <binaryme> EE_: You could install Win7 and either custom configure the partion(s) toi the size you want and then install ubuntu... or
[19:40] <mj8741> MeanEYE: yes
[19:40] <riyonuk> aaro700930, yup, I'll do that
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  its trivial to get new themes.. or even totally change window manager/desktops. so tweak it how you like
[19:40] <MeanEYE> mj8741, not sure why that is happening... but you can change grub config file...
[19:40] <looksharp> How to run a prgram as root !!?
[19:40] <mj8741> MeanEYE: I've never done that - know it's location?
[19:40] <looksharp> sudo ./ !!?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> looksharp:  depends on the program
[19:41] <MeanEYE> looksharp, sudo or gksu for gtk
[19:41] <binaryme> EE_: you could just let win7 do its thing and then resize the partition to make room for ubuntu later.  If it was me, i'd go with option 1
[19:41] <Craig_Dem> sudo/gksudo <program>
[19:41] <ruggero> send me a link to down loard win 7
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> ruggero:  err.. No..
[19:41] <looksharp> ok ty
[19:41] <Craig_Dem> You can't, except from Microsoft.
[19:41] <MeanEYE> mj8741, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:41] <riyonuk> Nope, nothing. /GTK/Mac4Lin_GTK_Aqua_v1.0.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[19:41] <EE_> binaryme: ok virtualisation isnt going to reduce the functions in win server? and as far as win 7 / ubuntu are concerned i dont mind partitioning myself but I just wanna know if I need to make three for win 7 or just one NTFS and then it will make the three within that itself?
[19:42] <aaro700930> riyonuk That was a question, anyway for tar you cant give it a filename with "/" in it unless GTK is a directory and the rest of the filename is Mac4Lin_GTK_Aqua_v1.0.tar.gz
[19:42] <ruggero> I want to use in virtualbox
[19:42] <mj8741> MeanEYE:  thanks
[19:42] <looksharp> I want use sudo
[19:42] <binaryme> EE_: if you want server on there as well, then, you will have to create the partitions first... but running server in a virtual machine will work just fine for testing
[19:42] <looksharp> to run .run files
[19:42] <CaptainTrek> EE_:  it wont make partitions within it self.  if you're prepartitioning, you'll need 3 partitions
[19:42] <riyonuk> aaro700930, it is a directory
[19:42] <MeanEYE> mj8741, np :D
[19:43] <CaptainTrek> looksharp:  sudo <the .run file>
[19:43] <looksharp> ok
[19:43] <CaptainTrek> looksharp:  assuming you are in the folder where the .run file is]
[19:43] <MeanEYE> looksharp, sudo works for terminal... use gksu/gksudo to run files from run dialog (ALT+F2)
[19:43] <aaro700930> riyonuk strongly suggest you use graphical environment way more easy to deal with compressed files
[19:43] <anodesni> looksharp, is it doesn't work try: sudo sh ./blabla.run
[19:43] <riyonuk> aaro700930, what do you mean? What do you want me to use?
[19:44] <looksharp> ok ty
[19:44] <aaro700930> riyonuk right mouse click.  Extract here
[19:44] <ruggero> dr-willis please send me a link for win 7
[19:44] <EE_> CaptainTrek and binaryme: seems complicated to prepartition (to make three for win 7 and two for ubuntu)... maybe i should just install win 7 first, then ubuntu then virtualise 2008? sound reasonable?
[19:44] <aaro700930> or view
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> ruggero:  No.
[19:44] <riyonuk> aaro700930, I did that...thats how I'm running the script
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> ruggero:  if you want it - you go buy it.
[19:44] <binaryme> EE_: yes
[19:44] <riyonuk> or are you implying moving files manually
[19:44] <CaptainTrek> EE_:   you might consider it, but win7 doesnt like its partition resized.  i've had issues with using win7 after resizing its partition
[19:44] <CaptainTrek> o.O
[19:45] <binaryme> EE_: you can only have a max of 4 primary partitions on a drive, so if you want/need more, you need to work with extended partions
[19:46] <chazco> On my netbook the microphone doesn't seem to work in Ubuntu 9.10. I'm trying to use it in Skype but it doesn't work in the sound recorder either... any ideas?
[19:46] <ruggero> i just need to prove the virtualbos
[19:46] <ManDay> Does anyone here have Sage installed and uses it?
[19:46] <Lantizia> chazco, which sound card do you have?
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> ruggero:  dosent matter. we dont support warezing of windows here. Find it elsewhere or go buy it.
[19:46] <EE_> binaryme: oh yeah... i just did A+ two days ago, I should know that lol. ok well do I have to have three partitions for win 7? can I not just use one, or two? If it comes down to it I have another 120gig I can put in
[19:47] <aaro700930> riyonuk, this message: tar: GTK/Mac4Lin_GTK_Aqua_v1.0.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory "  was given on a window in graphical environment?
[19:47] <chazco> Lantizia - Not sure... it's a MSI Wind U100... i think it used to show up as HDA in an older version...
[19:47] <sanjien> hello, applications on gnome often  get killed suddenly,what is the solution for this?
[19:47] <Vooloo> is it hard to port Mac OS X apps to ubuntu?
[19:47] <WikkidByDesign> chazco, hey man, try going into skype options, mess around with audio and check out your mic IN settings, just flip to the next on the list and hit test call until you find the one
[19:47] <binaryme> EE_: I would install win7 first.  Select the custom install and tell it to only use 50% of the drive...
[19:47] <riyonuk> aaro700930, yeah, in terminal
[19:47] <ruggero> ok dr willis
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Vooloo:  depends on the app.  I imagine it can be difficult.
[19:47] <Vooloo> Dr_Willis: os x really is that much different?
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> Vooloo:  parts of it. Yes.
[19:48] <binaryme> Then go back and run the ubuntu install and let it use the rest...
[19:48] <anodesni> chazco, did you check volume settings?
[19:48] <aaro700930> riyonuk Ok, then type "pwd" without quotes and tell me what it prints
[19:48] <chazco> WikkidByDesign - The only option in skype is PulseAudio... it doesn't work in the Ubuntu sound recorder either...
[19:48] <chazco> anodesni - Everything looks okay...
[19:48] <Lantizia> chazco, probably not the issue I had then nevermind
[19:48] <WikkidByDesign> chazco, eek, i dunno what tko tell ya then lol
[19:48] <EE_> binaryme: but is it still going to make 3 partitions just for itself?
[19:48] <anodesni> chazco, you have to select the right "input device", or something like that
[19:48] <binaryme> EE_: no, it shouldn't.  I should only make two
[19:48] <Ubuntu_Lover> When i attempt to download pdf file, i get the option to open using GIMP, how to change it so that it open it with evince?
[19:49] <riyonuk> it prints "/home/riyonuk"
[19:49] <WikkidByDesign> chazco, it might be possible you have your mic muted in your Pulse Audio settings
[19:49] <chazco> anodesni - I've tried every option i can find in the Ubuntu Sound Preferences... nothing seems to work... you just get silence (with a bit of a hiss)
[19:49] <EE_> binaryme: ok so ubuntu uses two as well right? which then brings me to the max
[19:49] <anodesni> chazco, maybe the channel is muted, you can check by running "alsamixer -c0" in a terminal, if a channel is muted it shows MM at the bottem, you can unmute it by pressing m
[19:49] <WikkidByDesign> chazco, i would check that
[19:49] <binaryme> EE_:  the third one you can see is likely a recovery partion used to restore the pc to 'factory' defaults...
[19:49] <aaro700930> riyonuk where is the theme file you downloaded? Maybe Downloads or Desktop?
[19:50] <EE_> binaryme: yes it is, but that one isnt created by default during win 7 install?
[19:50] <riyonuk> aaro700930, yup
[19:50] <aaro700930> riyonuk wich one of the two
[19:50] <SlidingHorn> Ubuntu_Lover: right click on the pdf and select Open with Other Application..find evince and make sure the "Remember this application for "PDF document" files is checked
[19:50] <binaryme> EE_: if you know how to install win7 from scratch, you don't need it.  no, it will not be created by the install
[19:50] <riyonuk> aaro700930, downloads
[19:50] <ivanatwork> hi
[19:50] <riyonuk> I opened a new terminal when I ran that command
[19:50] <aaro700930> riyonuk, then type cd Downloads
[19:51] <SlidingHorn> Ubuntu_Lover: also -- if evince is not listed, open a terminal (Menu>Accessories>Terminal) and type: sudo apt-get install evince
[19:51] <aaro700930> and pwd away please
[19:51] <aaro700930> again
[19:51] <anodesni> chazco, I've had the problem before. I had to LOWER the volume of the input mic channel for it to work!
[19:51] <EE_> binaryme: I almost get the feeling that this plan of mine isnt supposed to be executed lol
[19:51] <anodesni> chazco, in pulse audio settings
[19:51] <cipher421> anyone else here with boot problems on 10.04?
[19:52] <riyonuk> "/home/riyonuk/Downloads"
[19:52] <riyonuk> okay...
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> cipher421:  if we all say 'NO' will that help?
[19:52] <cipher421> no
[19:52] <aaro700930> riyonuk try again tar command
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> cipher421:  state the actual problem you are having to the channel and see who can help.
[19:52] <riyonuk> aaro700930, type "tar"?
[19:52] <SlidingHorn> Dr_Willis: hahahaa!
[19:52] <cipher421> i've been trying....
[19:52] <chazco> anodesni / WikkidByDesign - I've check in pauvcontrol, the ubuntu volume control and alsamixer... everything seems okay...
[19:52] <HermanDE> cipher421, My boot doesn't fit....
[19:52] <mj8741> MeanEYE: that worked - can boot - shows error message "error probing SMBI" but it does boot up ok...
[19:52] <binaryme> EE_:  it can be a little tricky/scarry....   but it's not that bad.  like I said, if you have a backup (or new machine), you can always start over if you fail the first time
[19:52] <EE_> binaryme: wait.... one more thing. If I install win 7 (and it makes two partitions) and then I install ubuntu and it makes two partitions, can I virtualise anything?? does virtual box make a partition for each OS?
[19:53] <cipher421> freeze on boot after "ureadahead exits with status 4"
[19:53] <cipher421> from fresh install
[19:53] <tisgwt> hi from brazil
[19:53] <MeanEYE> mj8741, I have the same message, didn't really notice any malfunction
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> EE_:  i belive you can some how force windows7 to install to one partition.
[19:53] <HermanDE> cipher421, What is the condition of your hard drive?
[19:53] <teurastaja> having a firmware update problem
[19:53] <cipher421> works like a champ
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> EE_:  virtualbox uses virtual hard drive files.. not real physical drive partitions
[19:53] <cipher421> it's an ssd
[19:53] <HermanDE> cipher421, Is this a new system or a well used system?
[19:53] <aaro700930> riyonuk What did you type when you got this? tar: GTK/Mac4Lin_GTK_Aqua_v1.0.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[19:53] <mj8741> MeanEYE:  yeah, seems to work ok anyway.  thanks for the chat!
[19:53] <cipher421> about a year old
[19:53] <binaryme> EE_: virtual box puts everything in a file, inside the linux partition.  it doesn't need a dedicated partition
[19:54] <riyonuk> aaro700930, I dragged the .sh install script to terminal and pressed enter
[19:54] <HermanDE> cipher421, Have you run a diagnostic on the hard drive?
[19:54] <ManDay> Is there a way to equip the python interactive shell with tabcompletion?
[19:54] <MeanEYE> mj8741, yw
[19:54] <SlidingHorn> cipher421: http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-fix-ureadahead-problem-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-10-04
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  you might want to spend some time learning a bit more of shell fundamentals befor trying to mess with that Mac4Lin stuff :)
[19:54] <aaro700930> riyonuk type ls GTK* and tell me what you got on screen
[19:54] <EE_> Dr_Wilis and binaryme: that's interesting! now I do have a spare 120gig HDD and slot I can use... would you guys bother? Im not concerned about space
[19:55] <Vooloo> why cant you use wildcard in /etc/hosts? :( I need a smooth way of accessing my local apache, like *.localhost rather than having to add every single virtualhost in /etc/hosts ... do I need to run a local DNS server?
[19:55] <HermanDE> SlidingHorn, Hmm....  New things.....
[19:55] <Ubuntu_Lover> SlidingHorn: I did the same as u said but it is not working. when i open pdf file on my PC it opens with evince but the problem is only wiht files that i open from websites.
[19:55] <cipher421> SlidingHorn: this article says the ureadahead isn't the problem, and that the freeze is probablly an X problem
[19:55] <HermanDE> SlidingHorn, Thanks...
[19:55] <riyonuk> ls: cannot access GTK*: No such file or directory
[19:55] <MeanEYE> Vooloo, just use localhost
[19:55] <tsigwt> hi from brazil :)
[19:55] <riyonuk> Can't you just vnc into my computer and do it for me :p
[19:55] <binaryme> EE_:  depends on the size of your main drive.... if it's big, I wouldn't bother with another drive
[19:56] <MeanEYE> Vooloo, oh, virtual hosts... well I think you'll have to add
[19:56] <Vooloo> MeanEYE: but I make a virtualhost called mysite.localhost I cant access it cause only localhost is in etc/hosts
[19:56] <anodesni> chazco, I would check again in pulse audio settings, at the input volume there is a gauge that shows how sensitive you're mic is. Probably it doesn't respond when you speak into the mic, but maybe it will when you lower the volume
[19:56] <kop> so the scenario is use "twinkle" to make a voip connection and then quit . Then use skype to make a connection and then quit . So back at twinkle now "cannot access mic device is busy , cannot access speaker device is busy , . I need a way to see what resources twinke and skype are using like piping lsof to a file and generating diffs of something  . so far I'm getting nowhere ...
[19:56] <aaro700930> riyonuk: What is the name of the file you dragged to terminal?
[19:56] <EE_> binaryme: 750 gig
[19:56] <SlidingHorn> Ubuntu_Lover: i'm a bit confused...is it *not* opening with evince from your file manager or from your web browser, let me know & I'll let you know how to fix it either way...the previous msg I gave you was for the file manager only
[19:56] <riyonuk> aaro700930, Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0.sh
[19:56] <looksharp> how to get my ip
[19:56] <chazco> anodesni - Tried that... can't get a response regardless
[19:57] <looksharp> from terminal
[19:57] <kop> google Pulseaudio sucks About 90,200 results (0.22 seconds) seems I have company
[19:57] <MeanEYE> looksharp, www.whatismyip.com :D
[19:57] <anodesni> chazco, maybe it is a driver problem, but then I can't help you, srt
[19:57] <anodesni> *sry
[19:57] <MeanEYE> looksharp, ip of your machine or public IP?
[19:57] <aaro700930> riyonuk Type bash ./Mac4Lin_install_v10.sh
[19:57] <chazco> anodesni - No problem, thanks anyway :)
[19:57]  * kop ducks 
[19:57] <EE_> binaryme: now I'm gonna check for new BIOS and start installing things :)
[19:57] <mkquist> looksharp: ifconfig -a
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> looksharp:  ive seen scripts (last month when i googled for that) that grab your ip from the various whatis my ip tyoe web sites :)
[19:57] <looksharp> ip for my machine
[19:57] <looksharp> thanks
[19:57] <SlidingHorn> looksharp: from terminal = ifconfig
[19:57] <binaryme> EE_:  Big enough.  Work out how much space your gf is likely to need (200GB?) a and give the rest to linux, so you have plenty of room for virtual machines  (why stop at one?
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> looksharp:  Your lan ip may not be the same as your  routers public ip. (if using a router)
[19:58] <tsigwt> hello everybody
[19:58] <riyonuk> aaro700930, bash: ./Mac4Lin_install_v10.sh: No such file or directory
[19:58] <Ubuntu_Lover> SlidingHorn: When i click pdf file that is stored in my pc it opens in evince but when i open pdf file that is on website, it give the option to open using GIMP.
[19:58] <MeanEYE> looksharp, ifconfig
[19:58] <riyonuk> aaro700930, and Ctrl+C isn't working in terminal which is seriously making me want to punch the wall
[19:58] <binaryme> EE_:  My destop has 15+ virtual machines on it!
[19:58] <aaro700930> riyonuk Let me see that theme to check install instructions
[19:59] <EE_> binaryme: good suggestion. all she does is use email and save a few docs :)  i just found when I last used virtual box I had trouble connecting to the net and usb drives etc
[19:59] <steffan> ManDay: put http://pastebin.com/RafbNAYi in ~/.pythonrc and setup the PYTHONSTARTUP environment variable to point to it. ie "export PYTHONSTARTUP=~/.pythonrc"
[19:59] <binaryme> EE_:  where you using the OSE version or the main version from Sun's website?
[19:59] <SlidingHorn> Ubuntu_Lover: ok, easy fix :)  usually when you try to open a pdf file from your browser, it will give you the option to open or save the file...the open option should say "open with" and have a list of applications...if evince isn't listed there, you can usually click "browse" for other apps.  again, make sure you use select the option to remember
[20:00] <binaryme> EE_:  usb doesn't work in the OSE version
[20:00] <Dargon> in vsftpd im getting the folowing error
[20:00] <Dargon> Command:	STOR Weather.tcl
[20:00] <Dargon> Response:	550 Permission denied.
[20:00] <Dargon> Error:	Critical file transfer error
[20:00] <FloodBot3> Dargon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:00] <Dargon> my bad
[20:00] <EE_> binaryme: I may have used OSE in the past. The one I have now is
[20:01] <EE_> binaryme: Oracle VM Virtualbox.... came with Ubuntu UE 2.5
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  yea.. I got a Ugly Mac4Lin theme now. :)
[20:01] <Dargon> my permissions are set right
[20:01] <EE_> binaryme: gonna use UE 2.7 which is based on lucid
[20:01] <binaryme> EE_: OSE is the 'default' version used by ubuntu  (cause its free/open source
[20:01] <digidimi> how to remove all the installed packages and leave only metapackage ubuntu-minimal ?
[20:02] <ManDay> thanks steffan
[20:02] <Ubuntu_Lover> SlidingHorn: thanks. When i click other i takes me to files on desktop. From where i can select evince?
[20:02] <SlidingHorn> digidimi: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal (i'd be careful doing this -- and ask someone to check my syntax)
[20:02] <binaryme> EE_: I use version 3.2.4 from the sun (oracle) website
[20:02] <Sevdalin> how to run my webcam on skype ? i have drivers installed and i see me on cheese
[20:02] <Dargon> it even fails with the directory chmod to 777
[20:02] <aaro700930> riyonuk you downloaded a zip file, and suppose uncompressed it
[20:02] <EE_> binaryme: not free?
[20:03] <SlidingHorn> Ubuntu_Lover: I believe it would be in /usr/bin
[20:03] <riyonuk> Dr_Willis, it sucks right? :(
[20:03] <Ubuntu_Lover> thx SlidingHorn
[20:03] <riyonuk> I just want Ubuntu to look pretty >_>
[20:03] <SlidingHorn> Ubuntu_Lover: any time :)
[20:03] <binaryme> EE_:  free as in $$$, yes,  free as in open source, not completely
[20:03] <Sevdalin> how to run my webcam on skype ? i have drivers installed and i see me on cheese
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> aaro700930:  i just installed it.. You download the .zip uncompress it.. cd to Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0 , and run the installer via ->  ./Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0.sh
[20:03] <Sevdalin> please help
[20:03] <riyonuk> Yeah, I right clicked the downloaded zip, un-archived it, ran the script, got an ugly theme
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  i find os-x not very pretty to be honest with you.
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  i much perfer my customized themes
[20:04] <aaro700930> cant be more agree
[20:04] <EE_> binaryme: ahhh... well at least no $$$
[20:04] <steffan> ManDay: no problem
[20:04] <binaryme> EE_:  I don't know why USB doesn't work on the OSE version????  Wish it did.
[20:05] <riyonuk> Dr_Willis, pictures? I just don't like this 3-second put together black gradient that Ubuntu comes with. I mean really :/
[20:05] <Ubuntu_Lover> SlidingHorn: Problem is fixed. Thank you so much.
[20:05] <riyonuk> I'm not too fond with with OSX either, but I like how everything matches and it doesn't look like Win98
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  i must have 200+ different theme parts for gnome I just mixx and match till i see what i like
[20:05] <anodesni> Sevdalin, I will help you, but first I must install skype
[20:05] <aaro700930> riyonuk i suggest you visit art.gnome.org where you can download diferent themes, icons, pictures, etc so you can customize the way ubuntu looks
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> I dont care about mathcing so much as i care about be ing 'clear' and easy for me to see/use
[20:06] <Sevdalin> anodesni, ok i get whait you
[20:06] <ppm> after ssh -X user@machine, export and xeyes i get "Can't open display: 192.168.2.60:1.0". i did all the steps mentioned in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SSH
[20:06] <binaryme> EE_: Got to go.  Its after 3am where i am.  Best of luck.
[20:06] <ppm> what can be the reason?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  install the 'gnome-art' tool, and check out 'gstyle' tool - they let you download themes easially. and theres a lot in the repos also.. and  many more theme ppa's you can use
[20:07] <anodesni> ppm, try using -Y instead of -X
[20:07] <ppm> anodesni, i did, doesnt help :(
[20:07] <EE_> binaryme: night man, thanks for all your help
[20:07] <anodesni> Sevdalin, you should go to the option menu
[20:07] <ppm> anodesni, do you have to export a display var?
[20:07] <riyonuk> Dr_Willis, I can't explain it in words, its just something feels off in Linux, maybe its the fonts? Hmm
[20:07] <MacTarbo> !help
[20:08] <anodesni> ppm, sorry I don't know
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  perhaps you should spend more time doing 'work' and not 'rearanging your wallpapers' :)
[20:08] <anodesni> Sevdalin, then go to the "Video devices" tab
[20:08] <Sevdalin> i have selected
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  i did see a thing to let you download some of the apple fonts today :)
[20:08] <ppm> anodesni, the nolisten makes me nervous ->   root      1162  0.6  0.6 128988 37728 tty7     Ss+  20:46   0:08 /usr/bin/X :0 -nr -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-WRvcj9/database -nolisten tcp vt7
[20:08] <mkquist> riyonuk: just curious- off as opposed to?
[20:08] <six> join #redditsoccer
[20:08] <anodesni> Sevdalin, make sure that "enable skype video" is checked, and check if the correct webcam is seleceted (not your tvcard e.g. if you have one)
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/how-to-install-apple-mac-osx-fonts-in.html
[20:09] <Sevdalin> /dev/video0
[20:09] <anodesni> Sevdalin, then you can click on the `test' button to see if it works
[20:09] <Sevdalin> and nothing
[20:09] <riyonuk> Dr_Willis, I cannot focus when the design is bugging me
[20:09] <Sevdalin> not run
[20:09] <Sevdalin> my cam
[20:09] <anodesni> Sevdalin, did you select the correct cam?
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  time to  learn some self controll i guess.
[20:09] <Sevdalin> dont give me test my webcam on optians menu
[20:10] <Sevdalin> yes is correct
[20:10] <anodesni> Sevdalin, and you're not using it in another program now?
[20:10] <Sevdalin> no
[20:11] <anodesni> Sevdalin, ok, you might try to start skype by typing in `skype' in a terminal, then if you press the `test' button ther might be valuable debug information in the terminal
[20:11] <alabd> Good day all ,  how to have webcam chat in ubuntu with yahoo protocol ?
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  install ing that mac4lin thing took me all of 3 min to do also..   let me pastebin the commands i used
[20:11] <Sevdalin> anodesni ok
[20:11] <EE_> anyone know if I can use magic jack in ubuntu? forums about this are a bit over my head
[20:12] <Sevdalin> anodesni, dont show nothing
[20:13] <riyonuk> Dr_Willis, wha :o
[20:13] <Sevdalin> i dont understand how to make run that webcam on skype
[20:13] <Sevdalin> i dont see where is the problem
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  as i said earlier.. it would be trivial if you spend an hr or so learning bash basics
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  download, extract, cd to the proper dir, run installer
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> riyonuk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/448843/
[20:14] <anodesni> Sevdalin, I'm afraid I don't know either then...
[20:14] <myside_> hello
[20:15] <tle10> hey everyone. sort of new to linux... is there a command I can use to run a program from the terminal and then have it print out how long that program took to execute?
[20:15] <kiamo> how can i merge 2 rar files together?  they are part 1 and 2 of the same file
[20:15] <unop> tle10, time
[20:15] <unop> tle10, e.g.  time my_command
[20:16] <evon> does anyone know the terminal command to check how big a particular directory (including subdirectories)?
[20:16] <tle10> unop: perfect! thanks!
[20:16] <unop> evon, du -sh your_dir/
[20:16] <riyonuk> woah, it kinda worked
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> kiamo:  install the rar binaries and unrar -e foo.r01  (or whatever the first rar filename is)
[20:16] <riyonuk> ima logoff and see if it fixes, brb
[20:16] <kiamo> Dr_Willis, thx
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> kiamo:  oops.. its 'unrar e ' (not -e)
[20:17] <evon> unop, if i don't put the directory will it just check the current directory?
[20:17] <anodesni> Sevdalin, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[20:17] <unop> evon, no, for that supply . instead
[20:17] <kiamo> ah ok
[20:18] <quadcon> ðóññêèå åñòü?)
[20:18] <unop> evon, actually, yes, if you don't specify a dir, it does check the current dir.
[20:18] <evon> unop, thanks a bunch man
[20:18] <piero> Hi! I need a little miracle to make my sis 671 run 3D acceleration. Anyone knows a happy history?
[20:20] <evon> unop, is there a command for getting the computer to detect hardware again or do i have to restart?
[20:20] <quadcon> hi all ! any1 know how install nvidia drivers on ubunta 10.10 without crach system?
[20:20] <quadcon> crash*
[20:20] <unop> evon, to do what exactly?
[20:20] <evon> unop nevermind i got actually
[20:21] <IdleOne> piero: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353903
[20:21] <evon> unop I just had to wait a sec
[20:21] <piero> thanks IdleOne
[20:21] <piero> Did you bought a sis card too?
[20:21] <IdleOne> piero: welcome, hope that helps
[20:21] <IdleOne> piero: no I just did a little search and found that link
[20:22] <piero> hmm.. cool! So you are a smart man, because sis totally sucks!
[20:22] <Vooloo> is there a way to filter a directory? if I am in a dir and want to search for a file, it should only show those that match my query
[20:23] <evon> unop, if i type "cp /directorya /directoryb" will it copy everything including subdirectories?
[20:23] <unop> evon,  cp -a dira/ dirb/
[20:23] <alabd> any opinion ?
[20:23] <SlidingHorn> evon: may be unnecessary but cp /directorya/*
[20:24] <maw_> vooloo, i usually do ls -l in/the/dir | grep whatever
[20:24] <unop> Vooloo,  find dir -name "*whatever*"
[20:24] <unop> maw_, not a good idea to parse ls
[20:24] <SlidingHorn> evon: unop has a better idea nvm me
[20:24] <danstorm> join #ubuntu-fr
[20:25] <maw_> ok.. you tell me why?
[20:25] <Vooloo> unop: not in nautilus?
[20:25] <unop> Vooloo, in that case, i don't have any idea - i don't use nautilus.  Doesn't it have a search applet?
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> Video playback issue with XV video output: Totem, SopCast, mplayer -vo xv, etc all have distorted colours.  Human skin looks blue/green in colour.  Fresh Lucid install, previous Lucid install did not have this issue.  Nvidia current video driver.
[20:26] <erUSUL> Vooloo: in nautilus if you just start typing a name it will be searched automatically
[20:26] <SlidingHorn> vooloo have you tried catfish?  should be installed by default, or: sudo apt-get install catfish
[20:27] <erUSUL> Vooloo: well just checked you have to hit enter :)
[20:27] <Vooloo> erUSUL: nice
[20:27] <evon> unop, sorry to trouble you again. I've typed it but nothing is seemingly happening. does the terminal not give any kind of progress indicator?
[20:28] <Vooloo> SlidingHorn: no dont have it, is that for full system search?
[20:28] <unop> evon, not cp no, but if you add a -v it tells you which file it's copied
[20:28] <evon> oh i c
[20:29] <unop> evon, if you have rsync installed. you can do.   rsync -av --progress dira/ dirb/
[20:29] <xZillerationer> This is support, right?
[20:29] <darko3d> hello, how do i install compiz and that cube thingy on ubuntu 10.04
[20:29] <unop> right
[20:30] <xZillerationer> I have a question.
[20:30] <unop> !compiz | darko3d
[20:30] <unop> !ask | xZillerationer
[20:30] <quelltext> XD
[20:31] <xZillerationer> I can't make the desktop cube in Compiz work, I've tried everything it says online. It shows up as a flat strip.
[20:31] <SlidingHorn> vooloo: yes...also, if you're running Lucid, try Menu > Accessories > Search for files
[20:32] <evon> unop, automatically replace files?
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> xZillerationer, you might want to try asking in the #compiz channel, good luck
[20:32] <DugenNash> was wondering if anyone could help with flash/youtube playback problem
[20:32] <DugenNash> ?
[20:32] <SlidingHorn> dugennash we'll try...next time just enter your actual problem & question (one post) and we'll try to help out
[20:33] <unop> evon, rsync is smart, it compares already existing files in the destination and copies them only if they're older
[20:33] <evon> unop, ok i will check it out
[20:33] <DugenNash> thanks, the problem is that when i play a youtube video it stops playing after a little bit, even though the buffer is full
[20:33] <guntbert> xZillerationer: can you give me 1 link that you tried? (just out of curiosity, I can offer no help)
[20:33] <darko3d> i had some toubles with my touchpad on a hp dv5, so ran modprobe -r psmouse, then modprobe psmouse without the proto paramater, its all working well but i was wondering if anybody knows what the real paramater for the synaptic touchpad is, just for future refrence
[20:33] <DugenNash> i tried to reinstall flash and that didn't help
[20:34] <evon> unop, alright i used the -u option. thanks again for your help
[20:34] <lupsavalentin> Hi. Can you please tell me what is tha name for the channel where I can get support for ATI Display Drivers?
[20:34] <DugenNash> after i did an update to 10.04 thats when i started having this problem
[20:34] <unop> evon, is this with cp? you mean -v ?
[20:34] <DugenNash> i think there may have been a flash update or sometnhing
[20:35] <unop> evon, because -u does something else - probably what you want anyway
[20:36] <noxyra> Hey tout le monde :)
[20:37] <unop> Bon jour!
[20:37] <DugenNash> bonjjour
[20:37] <darko3d> beinvenue noxyra
[20:37] <noxyra> Merci, darko3d
[20:37] <nfearnley> I'm having problems reconnecting my bluetooth keyboard after it disconnects. It works fine after it's paired, but if it disconnects I have to remove the pairing and re-pair to get it to work again. What do I need to do to get it to reconnect automatically?
[20:37] <guntbert> !fr | noxyra
[20:37] <darko3d> did somebody say cp
[20:38] <DugenNash> anybody ever have youtube issue where the video stops playing like half way into the vid?
[20:39] <CaptainTrek> DugenNash:  yes, on windows.  reload the page, because your internet stopped receiving the data halfway through buffering
[20:40] <unop> DugenNash, I used to have that problem with an older version of flash -- a restart of the browser usually sorted it out.
[20:40] <darko3d> when i log in from kde, i get a black screen, how can i configure it to work correctly
[20:40] <DugenNash> CaptainTrek: thanks I have tried with the buffer full but it always stops even after refreshing
[20:41] <SlidingHorn> dugennash from what I've been reading you may want to try clearing your cache as well
[20:41] <DugenNash> SlidingHorn: thanks, but I tried that too
[20:42] <xZillerationer> Why can't I make the desktop cube work
[20:42] <danstorm> re
[20:42] <danstorm> merci alex
[20:42] <danstorm> sa marche niquel
[20:43] <darko3d> xZillerationer: i just got it working
[20:43] <darko3d> whats ur problem
[20:44] <komp03> всем привет. Может мне кто нибудь помочь с Xubuntu? Я тока начал юзать линукс. поэтому ничего не знаю.
[20:44] <xZillerationer> I can't make the desktop cube work.
[20:45] <Conan_O_Brian> hello.. is there any way to show everything in terminal when i compile.. i mean when i type make i want to see from bennining what it has done
[20:45] <dante123> hi all, trying to install 10.04 to sony vaio pcv-rx550 but cant get past logo screen and the coloured dots....any ideas?
[20:46] <Conan_O_Brian> dante123, tried with text based install?
[20:46] <duffydack> Damn b43 driver, its useless.. I get an IP and router address etc, but cant access router or anything.. so I had to revert back to STA driver, works perfect, if not taking a lot longer than b43 to connect.
[20:46] <SlidingHorn> conan_o_brian ./script.sh > output.txt
[20:46] <greezmunkey> lo
[20:46] <tweek__> so, some guy in #mythtv-users told me the other night that absolutely everything works out-of-the-box in Ubuntu. even though it's the same kernel drivers and everything, I'm out of options I guess
 no i only have cd for standard i386
[20:46] <greezmunkey> lag-o-matic
[20:47] <Reallycool> My compiz is broken, it won't start anymore for unknown reasons
[20:47] <Conan_O_Brian> oh thanks.. but i am not using and script i type everything in console so can i write make > output.txt ?
[20:47] <tweek__> can I burn off a live CD and test my TV tuner, a Hauppauge HVR-1600?
 do you think I need to use acpi off or other option
[20:48] <Conan_O_Brian> dante123 , i mean alternate installer * , i dont know what or if u need to turn off something
[20:48] <SlidingHorn> conan_o_brian: as far as I'm aware you should be able to do any command with the "command > output.txt"
[20:48] <Conan_O_Brian> ok thanks SlidingHorn :)
[20:48] <acovrig> !legal
[20:48] <Joaquin> hey can anybody tell me how to restore the bar at the bottom of the screen? cuz i have docky now but i dont want this thing
[20:49] <acovrig> is there any legal info I should know about running ubuntu in a school?
[20:49] <komp03> who can help me? i am from russia
[20:50] <SlidingHorn> joaquin: right click on an existing panel and click New Panel...add whatever applets you want to it
[20:50] <no-name_> how do you copy/paste files from the terminal? i need to do it with sudo privelages
[20:50] <SlidingHorn> no-name: sudo cp /path/to/original /path/to/copy
[20:50] <acovrig> komp03, translater? help w/ what?
[20:50] <xZillerationer> Would having a 64 bit OS make a difference for the desktop cube?
[20:51] <no-name_> SlidingHorn: thank you thank you thank you tahnk you :)
[20:51] <SlidingHorn> no-name anytime
[20:51] <Conan_O_Brian> hey no-name what is your name? haha
[20:53] <sdubois> when i copy songs from rhythmbox to my Sansa fuze, it converts AAC to OGG, which is really nice because the fuze doesn't support AAC, but i'm running rockbox, so it does. Is there anyway to disable this feature?
[20:53] <SlidingHorn> xzillerationer: the 64-bit version isn't as well-developed at this point, as the usership isn't as vast...not sure what problems will arise or what items would/wouldn't be supported to be honest
[20:53] <duffydack> sdubois, its in prefs what to convert to
[20:53] <CkhiKuzad> whenever i start screen in my TTY sessions (control alt [f-f6])  and i press f9 to bring up the menu, it just types ~ into the entry. how do i fix this?
[20:54] <duffydack> sdubois, prefs, music, prefered format
[20:57] <Guest43768> Is there a way to enable all my ram in 32bit? I show 8g in 64 but only 3g in 32.
[20:57] <acovrig> is there any legal info I should know about running ubuntu in a school?
[20:57] <Daekdroom> Guest43768, you can install the pae kernel.
[20:58] <Guest43768> Thanks I'll try tha
[20:58] <standard> et
[20:58] <SlidingHorn> acovrig: not sure exactly what you're asking.  if you're on your own machine, then you should be able to run whatever OS you want.  Just don't access anything you're not supposed to (i.e. adult websites, etc)
[20:59] <Daekdroom> SlidingHorn, I think he's wondering about making a transition to Ubuntu.
[20:59] <Daekdroom> SlidingHorn, but then there might be legal issues when it comes to commercial use.
[20:59] <acovrig> SlidingHorn, I am planning on installing Ubuntu on ~20 comps at a gradeschool, Daekdroom stated it well, I am going to use it commercially
[21:00] <duffydack> Guest43768,  use PAE kernel.
[21:00] <duffydack> oops
[21:00] <erUSUL> acovrig: there should not be any problem
[21:00] <acovrig> erUSUL, can I get documentation on that?
[21:01] <ZykoticK9> acovrig, and you are free and encouraged to use it ubuntu in those sort of situations!  and don't forget you can always get commercial support from canonical if you run into issues ;)
[21:01] <acovrig> im surprised ubottu (bot) didn't know about it, unless I asked wrong (!legal)
[21:01] <Sazpaimon> I want to install grub to the MBR AND the bootsector
[21:01] <Sazpaimon> how do I do this
[21:02] <erUSUL> acovrig: free software is documented broadly in the net ... trademark issues with ubuntu names/logos http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[21:02] <CkhiKuzad> whenever i start screen in my TTY sessions (control alt [f-f6])  and i press f9 to bring up the menu, it just types ~ into the entry. how do i fix this?
[21:03] <Hilikus> hi guys
[21:03] <Blitzkrig> #join kubuntu
[21:03] <Hilikus> is there any way to make ubuntu not go to idle stand by when amarok is playing music?
[21:04] <CkhiKuzad> forget it.
[21:07] <_5moufl> hi, what is this for ? search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set b8609c13609bd68a (in grub.cfg which I did not edit)
[21:08] <Dadniel> hi all
[21:08] <Dadniel> how are you pepole?
[21:09] <acovrig> erUSUL, that is just the trademark (so I saw), is there documentation about using ubuntu commercially (in a school)
[21:09] <brianherman> I am good
[21:09] <brianherman> i have a job this summer Dadniel
[21:09] <tradakad> Hi guys. anyone is availbale to get live news using RealPlayer - from here for example http://eu.real.com/video/livenews#
[21:09] <SlidingHorn> guys try to keep on topic (Ubuntu Support)  you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic for casual chat
[21:10] <tradakad> what i shoud intall for playing it :( i am sad :((
[21:10] <erUSUL> acovrig: free software can be used freely; that's the point of it.
[21:10] <Gnea> tradakad: there are a number of players. you can find them by opening a terminal and typing:  apt-cache search realplayer
[21:10] <Hilikus> is there any way to make ubuntu not go to idle stand by when amarok is playing music?
[21:10] <tradakad> Gnea: I got it already.
[21:11] <tradakad> Gnea from mediaubutu for example
[21:11] <brianherman> tradakad: http://www.real.com/realplayer/linux
[21:11] <erUSUL> acovrig: free software licenses only come into play when you modify and distribute the modified software ...
[21:11] <cavalliloco> hi, I can not install ubuntu on my lenovo 3000 n200, phyton (installer included) throws exceptions, can anyone help or direct me to proper channel?
[21:11] <kary> Anyone know how to run fsck on 2 partitions that are apart of a RAID 1 array from a live usb install?
[21:11] <chmac> I want to install lyx but the dependencies are ~430Mb download, 750Mb on disk. Most of the size is a few doc packages (>250Mb). Any idea if I can install without those doc packages?
[21:11] <Gnea> tradakad: so what's the problem?
[21:11] <tradakad> Gnea: but i dont see it in mybrowser
[21:11] <acovrig> erUSUL, the OS too (some people belive that it is illegal to run ubuntu at a school)
[21:11] <SlidingHorn> tradakad: check this out: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid#RealPlayer_11_Multimedia_Player
[21:11] <tradakad> Gnea: when i click to any of theses links i got a message where i read i need to doanwload real player :(
[21:12] <Gnea> tradakad: my guess is check the url that SlidingHorn provided.... since you're in the UK and I'm not, I can't really help diagnose it
[21:12] <brianherman> tradakdad: my link is better it has a deb package
[21:12] <erUSUL> acovrig: o.0!!!! what? microsoft representatives?
[21:12] <tradakad> Gnea: I am in Ukraine ...
[21:12] <tweek__> maybe your government requires certain standards
[21:12] <Gnea> tradakad: then the content may be blocked
[21:12] <tweek__> I mean, Stallman's zealots are pushing their political ideals in Europe
[21:12] <brianherman> erUSUL:microsoft committed 20,000 loc to the linux kernel
[21:12] <brianherman> lol
[21:12] <tradakad> SlidingHorn: I did it already..
[21:12] <JimSmith> hey, i'm wondering if someone can help. everytime i restart my computer, the gnome panels disappear. the icons on the desktop show up, but the panels are gone
[21:13] <acovrig> erUSUL, kinda, transition from win2000, iLOVE ubuntu and I hope they'll let me manage the system cuz then all of them'll be ubuntu
[21:13] <tweek__> and a lot of those countries have already written in legislation effectively requiring the use of ODT
[21:13] <JimSmith> i can get them back via "killall gnome-panel" in the terminal
[21:13] <Ziaeon> anyone watching the game?
[21:13] <JimSmith> but i have to do that every time
[21:13] <SlidingHorn> chmac: I would recommend installing on a system that meets the requirements or you're just asking for trouble.  You can try to use the minimal-install if that's more suitable to your needs
[21:13] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | JimSmith
[21:13] <tradakad> Gnea: hmm but i got a message with req. to doanlowad a player not about the contenet is bliocked
[21:13] <no-name_> is it a different command to copy/paste a directory?
[21:13] <no-name_> edward@edward-desktop:~$ sudo cp '/home/edward/Win311/s3drivers' /mnt/1
[21:13] <no-name_> cp: omitting directory `/home/edward/Win311/s3drivers'
[21:13] <llutz> no-name_: cp -a
[21:13] <JimSmith> ubottu, do i have to do that every time?
[21:13] <tradakad> Gnea: can you try open something ?
[21:14] <erUSUL> no-name_: for dirs you need -r
[21:14] <erUSUL> no-name_: cp -r
[21:14] <Gnea> tradakad: of course not, the UK doesn't openly admit to it
[21:14] <erUSUL> JimSmith: no just once
[21:14] <no-name_> cheers erUSUL
[21:14] <no-name_> what does the r stand for?
[21:14] <acovrig> JimSmith, everytime what?
[21:14] <tradakad> SlidingHorn: I got it in my system alread but i cant to see a video in the browser
[21:14] <JimSmith> acovrig everytime i restart
[21:14] <chmac> SlidingHorn: I'm not sure what you mean. I don't see any texlive*minimal packages. I have the disk space, I'd rather not wait for the >400Mb download on a slooow adsl line. :-)
[21:14] <SlidingHorn> tradakad: stupid question, but have you restarted your machine after installing the player?
[21:14] <tradakad> Gnea: I see.. :((
[21:15] <tradakad> SlidingHorn: yes of course
[21:15] <Hilikus> how do i remove the first N lines of a file and leave the rest?
[21:15] <JimSmith> i'll try it now
[21:15] <tradakad> SlidingHorn: i see the plaer in the meny
[21:15] <suprengr> no-name: = recursive
[21:15] <erUSUL> acovrig: just an example in my own cauntry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalinex
[21:15] <acovrig> JimSmith, no, btw ubottu is a computer (program-bot) so it can't answer complex questions, type '!botsnack' to see
[21:15] <tradakad> SlidingHorn: I have a plugin in the firefox additions - something like Helios..
[21:15] <ZachK_> master_of_master: welcome
[21:15] <runesole> hi
[21:15] <ZachK_> BLACKTIGER: Hello!
[21:16] <runesole> have anyone got som cool termianl apps?
[21:16] <tradakad> SlidingHorn: can you try to open it? may be you will see appeared wond ?
[21:16] <drphresh> How do I control the speed of my fan?
[21:16] <tradakad> *windows
[21:16] <erUSUL> acovrig: used by hundred of thousans of children  ( they even caused some havoc around here ;) )
[21:16] <Gnea> tradakad: I'm giving it a shot
[21:16] <Daekdroom> !botsnack
[21:16] <SlidingHorn> tradakad: i don't have realplayer installed -- no use for it -- whenever yopu click on a realplayer link, you should be selecting the "Open With" option and select /usr/bin/realplay
[21:16] <sllide> http://www.livestream.com/wolfalexs_den
[21:16] <sllide> homo wants to get viewers :/
[21:16] <sllide> sorry for spam lol
[21:17] <maw_> hilikus, see man tail
[21:17] <zkriesse> !ot | slide
[21:17] <sllide> i know i know
[21:17] <erUSUL> Hilikus: use tail or sed ?
[21:17] <Gnea> sllide: don't bother apologizing.
[21:17] <SlidingHorn> sllide: then why did you come in here?
[21:17] <steffan> drphresh: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480
[21:17] <cavalliloco> hi, I can not install ubuntu on my lenovo 3000 n200, phyton (installer included) throws exceptions, can anyone help or direct me to proper channel?
[21:17] <Blitzkrig> exit
[21:17] <zkriesse> slide: then if you know why post it?!
[21:17] <tradakad> SlidingHorn: you opened that site? where is there that link ?
[21:17] <sllide> becouse i usualy ask ubuntu related questions
[21:17] <Gnea> sllide: not for long
[21:17] <Blitzkrig> quit
[21:17] <zkriesse> cavalliloco: this is the proper chanel
[21:17] <sllide> and, i need to spread it quick
[21:17] <chmac> SlidingHorn: Looks like I could use equivs to fool apt into thinking I have the doc packages, would save a big chunk of download & space.
[21:18] <Gnea> !ot | sllide spamming
[21:18] <zkriesse> slide: that's a bull crap excuse..
[21:18] <cavalliloco> thanks zkriesse
[21:18] <sllide> its no exucuse
[21:18] <sargento> How can I know why my Ubuntu just crash?, is there any log file where I can find it out?
[21:18] <zkriesse> cavalliloco: no problem...now what's your system specs my brotha?
[21:18] <Blitzkrig> #quit
[21:18] <cavalliloco> lenovo 3000 n200 latest ubuntu release
[21:18] <erUSUL> sargento: /var/log/ --> messages and syslog may have some clue
[21:18] <niko> §14
[21:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> sargento, go to system -> admin -> log viewer
[21:19] <steffan> Blitzkrig: it's "/quit"
[21:19] <SlidingHorn> sllide: there are other ways to get your site out there without spamming.  there's no reason for it...period.
[21:19] <sargento> erUSUL: Thanks
[21:19] <Blitzkrig> ah thx :)
[21:19] <sllide> jeez
[21:19] <sargento> rafaelsoaresbr: Thanks
[21:19] <sllide> i got that 3 messages ago
[21:19] <uLinux> Where are the advanced option in Startup Manager?
[21:19] <zkriesse> slide: you should know better is all...
[21:19] <cavalliloco> zkriesse: live cd works, but no phyton progs, not even sudoku :(
[21:19] <Gnea> sllide: only 3?
[21:19] <uLinux> damn bugs
[21:19] <sllide> or 5
[21:19] <sllide> dunno
[21:19] <sllide> :)
[21:20] <Gnea> it's not 1,000,000 yet :)
[21:20] <zkriesse> cavalliloco: ok...hmmm
[21:20] <Gnea> well, 1,024,000 would be more appropriate
[21:20] <zkriesse> cavalliloco: system specs/ubuntu version?
[21:20] <PatrinStar> can anyone tell me how i can get itunes on linux ubuntu 9.04?
[21:20] <Gnea> PatrinStar: can't
[21:20] <erUSUL> !wine | PatrinStar
[21:20] <tradakad> So guys i will never see that news...
[21:20] <zkriesse> erUSUL: Wine won't work with it man
[21:20] <Gnea> !itunes | PatrinStar
[21:21] <zkriesse> thank you Gnea
[21:21] <erUSUL> PatrinStar: but you should try the alternatives ... Rhythmbox or banshee
[21:21] <cavalliloco> zkriesse: lenovo 3000 n200, latest ubuntu (downloaded 3 days ago), what details do you need?
[21:21] <maw_> !botsnack
[21:21] <PatrinStar> Gnea, thank you
[21:21] <uLinux> Where are the advanced options in StartUp-Manager?
[21:21] <PatrinStar> erUSUL, thank you
[21:21] <steffan> PatrinStar: it should run under Wine
[21:21] <SlidingHorn> patrinstar: unfortunately, you cant.  here's a good link that gives you another option though: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[21:21] <uLinux> I don't have them
[21:21] <Gnea> PatrinStar, zkriesse: cheers
[21:21] <sargento> I Have "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0" on kern.log and syslog.log, I disabled my Floppy in BIOS and do de modprobe but my Ubuntu still crashes. Any clue?
[21:21] <zkriesse> cavalliloco: well ATI Graphics intel what
[21:21] <PatrinStar> another question, can anyone tell me another program i can use instead of transmission to download torrents?
[21:21] <Gnea> zkriesse: just google it :)
[21:21] <steffan> !torrent | PatrinStar
[21:22] <SlidingHorn> steffan: itunes does not run effectively under wine...in any version
[21:22] <erUSUL> sargento: and io error on the floppy wont crash the system . is something else
[21:22] <cavalliloco> zkriesse: Mobile Intel 965 Express
[21:22] <zkriesse> Gnea: Google what? I'm not the one asking for help
[21:22] <steffan> SlidingHorn: it _runs_
[21:22] <zkriesse> cavalliloco: ok
[21:22] <hart> what was it called that trasnparent theme?
[21:22] <PatrinStar> steffan, wow , didnt know there were so many
[21:22] <erUSUL> PatrinStar: deluge is very nice
[21:23] <ben974> !fr
[21:23] <JimSmith> hey guys, i was just asking about the gnome-panel - the recursive-unset thing worked when i restart, but doesn't work when i logout
[21:23] <JimSmith> that said, i'm willing to live with that
[21:24] <Gnea> !laptop | cavalliloco, zkriesse
[21:24] <sargento> erUSUL: How can I figure out what's going on. I need a clue. I read  on Ubuntu forums that this message is because some USB issues, that's why I tried it.
[21:24] <zkriesse> Gnea: I've got man...
[21:24] <bernardo> eae
[21:24] <haxxorz321> i have a wierd problem: when i start xsane, when i click scan, and it then terminates on me!  forget simple scan, an error pops up.  previously, xsane was working perfectly.  i tried restarting my printer but the same problem arises.
[21:24] <sargento> erUSUL: That message is coming over and over, every 30 sec. aprox.
[21:25] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone tried ubuntu on ps3 firmware 3.10 or better?
[21:25] <JimSmith> i have one other question: the wireless on this computer (it's a desktop) stopped working rather randomly. i haven't changed anything on the comp, nor with the router, and wireless initially worked fine, now it just tries to connect and times out
[21:25] <erUSUL> sargento: you can try to blacklist the floppy driver ...
[21:25] <erUSUL> !blacklist | sargento
[21:25] <cavalliloco> thanks ubottu , I know people managed to install it on this version
[21:25] <Gnea> !ps3 | linux_is_my_hero
[21:25] <sargento> erUSUL: Do I need to reboot after this?
[21:26] <ubutom_> linux_is_my_hero, hasn't the other os option been patched out by sony?
[21:26] <JimSmith> i've tried using the linux backports, but it didn't seem to help
[21:26] <haxxorz321> problem: when i start xsane, when i click scan, and it then terminates on me!  forget simple scan, an error pops up.  previously, xsane was working perfectly.  i tried restarting my printer but the same problem arises.
[21:26] <voidmage> if my hard drive partition is set up as 8GB swap, 240GB ext4, and i want to rezie to 16GB swap, can I do that without having to reformat?
[21:26] <erUSUL> sargento: is not a must. unload the module for this session « sudo modprobe -r floppy »
[21:27] <erUSUL> voidmage: depends on the layout of the disk becouse you cannot move the beggining of a ext* partition
[21:27] <sargento> erUSUL: That message appered "FATAL: Module floppy is in use."
[21:27] <Vigo> haxxorz321: Have you tried to fix pkg?
[21:27] <haxxorz321> what?
[21:27] <erUSUL> voidmage: probably easier to create a new 8 giB partition an activate both swaps
[21:27] <linux_is_my_hero> ututom_: yes, they are communist douchebags.
[21:28] <voidmage> erUSUL: and that's just as good performance wise as one large 16gb swap?
[21:28] <erUSUL> sargento: and what can be using it ... ?? have you mounted a floppy ?
[21:28] <Vigo> haxxorz321: Graphical?
[21:28] <djzn> anyone experiencing a 10-second delay of gnome-panel startup ???????
[21:28] <sargento> erUSUL: Nope, actually I disabled it from BIOS.
[21:28] <amigrave> very often when I boot (+- 8 times on 10), the kerel hangs when displaying a line about loading module ata_piix. Does someone have an idea about what I can do ? (I blacklisted it but it still load)
[21:28] <erUSUL> voidmage: swap never performs well no matter what ... if you are swapping you are death
[21:28] <haxxorz321> Vigo: i still dont get what or meaning
[21:29] <rafaelsoaresbr> sargento, have you disabled only the first floppy drive, or the entire floppy bus?
[21:29] <erUSUL> sargento: can you paste the output of « lsmod » and « sudo lsof /dev/fd0 » ?
[21:29] <sargento> rafaelsoaresbr: I disabled the floppy drive on BIOS.
[21:30] <sargento> erUSUL: I think it is beacuse I have it on /etc/fstabç
[21:30] <linux_is_my_hero> pardon my ignorance but what is the swap partition for, anyway?
[21:30] <erUSUL> !swap
[21:30] <sargento> erUSUL: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/sargento/.gvfs
[21:30] <sargento>       Output information may be incomplete.
[21:30] <sargento> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
[21:30] <FloodBot2> sargento: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:30] <sargento> mount   1488 root    3u   BLK    2,0   0t1024 1997 /dev/fd0
[21:31] <erUSUL> sargento: do not paste here ....
[21:31] <Vigo> haxxorz321: There are a few things that may be in error, try Synaptic, fix broken packages is one way. You can alternately select single packages and Repair them as selected, you stated it worked, so something or some setting,config borked it, possibly.
[21:31] <uLinux> Where are the advanced options in StartUp-Manager?
[21:31] <erUSUL> !paste > sargento
[21:31] <brett1> Hi - just installed ubuntu 10*.  When I click system>preferences>personal file sharing the window pops up stating "This feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system"  What are the required packages?
[21:31] <uLinux> damn
[21:32] <IdleOne> brett1: samba
[21:32] <sargento> erUSUL: Sorry, did you see my message?
[21:32] <kop> so the scenario is use "twinkle" to make a voip connection and then quit . Then use skype to make a connection and then quit . So back at twinkle now "cannot access mic device is busy , cannot access speaker device is busy , . I need a way to see what resources twinke and skype are using like piping lsof to a file and generating diffs of something  . so far I'm getting nowhere ...
[21:32] <IdleOne> brett1: it should also offer to install the needed packages
[21:33] <brett1> IdleOne:  I just installed samba, doesn't offer to install any packages.  i have a screenshot
[21:33] <IdleOne> brett1: when you get the window saying there are needed packages is there a OK or Continue button ?
[21:34] <erUSUL> sargento: something mounted the floppy, comment out the fstab line. balcklist the floppy driver and reboot
[21:35] <sargento> erUSUL: I think not mounting on /etc/fstab did the trick
[21:35] <IdleOne> brett1: please keep discussion in the channel
[21:35] <IdleOne> brett1: close the window and try to reopen
[21:35] <uLinux> How can I fix boot splash screen?
[21:35] <sargento> erUSUL: Let my try this. Thanks.
[21:35] <uLinux> it's buggy
[21:36] <brett1> idleone: all options are displayed but grayed out.  only buttons are help or close.
[21:36] <IdleOne> brett1: close it
[21:36] <uLinux> grr
[21:36] <kop> uLinux, directly edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or /grub/menu.cfg depending on version to remove all instances of "quiet splash"
[21:37] <brett1> IdleOne: closed
[21:37] <duff> uLinux, is it worth it, do you see it for more than 2 seconds?
[21:37] <IdleOne> brett1: so now if you try to run 'personal file sharing" again does it still come up with the missing packages window?
[21:37] <uLinux> kop: I don't have that file
[21:38] <uLinux> duff: it doesn't show the splash screen or text. it's buggy
[21:38] <brett1> IdleOne: correct, no change
[21:38] <erUSUL> kop: $ head -n2 /boot/grub/grub.cfg | tail -1 ---> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
[21:38] <IdleOne> brett1: :/ don't know what to tell you
[21:38] <kop> erUSUL, so ?
[21:38] <IdleOne> brett1: what is the output of apt-cache policy samba?
[21:38] <Vigo> uLinux: Is buggy or what?
[21:38] <kop> uLinux, what dist ?
[21:38] <uLinux> Lucid
[21:39] <erUSUL> kop: do not edit it ( or tell otheres to do it )
[21:39] <guntbert> kop: if someone edits /g
[21:39] <guntbert> sorry
[21:39] <brett1> IdleOne: thats beyond my skilz...is that a gedit terminal
[21:39] <Andrew9> erUSUL: u can easily edit it if ya know what you ding
[21:39] <Andrew9> doing*
[21:40] <IdleOne> brett1: open a terminal window and type: apt-cache policy samba
[21:40] <IdleOne> brett1: if it is installed it will say so
[21:40] <sargento> erUSUL: I commented out /dev/fd0 but still got this message
[21:40] <sargento> !blacklist
[21:40] <erUSUL> Andrew9: only to lost all your edits the next time the system run "update-grub"
[21:40] <kop> so you mean to tell me that the world will end and gawd almighty will kill a kitten if /boot/grub/grub.cfg is edited ? give me a break
[21:40] <peturi> How can i access grub menu on ubuntu server 10.04 ? it jumps straight to booting the os... ?
[21:40] <guntbert> kop: if someone edits /boot/grub/grub.cfg rhe chaneges will be overwritten with the next update of grub or kernel - so please give advice to edit /etc/defaults/grub instead
[21:40] <brett1> IdleOne:thats what i thought.  oh crap...typo.  hold on
[21:41] <Vigo> uLinux: Slow boot splash?
[21:41] <kop> guntbert, if it worked I would
[21:41] <brett1> idleone: samba:
[21:41] <brett1>   Installed: 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3
[21:41] <brett1>   Candidate: 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3
[21:41] <brett1>   Version table:
[21:41] <brett1>  *** 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3 0
[21:41] <FloodBot2> brett1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <brett1>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
[21:41] <brett1>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[21:41] <guntbert> kop: if what worked?
[21:41] <IdleOne> brett1: ok. samba is installed
[21:42] <sargento> erUSUL: In my case should I use: "blacklist /dev/fd0" ?
[21:42] <uLinux> Vigo: it only shows some weird stuff neither image or text
[21:42] <uLinux> my grub http://pastebin.com/E0GeGwKL
[21:42] <IdleOne> brett1: hmmm try logging out and back in but I believe samba starts by default
[21:42] <kop> ok fine the demented world of irc knows more about the practical advantages of following other lemmings over the proverbial cliff .
[21:43] <brett1> idleone:  will try that... thanks
[21:43] <IdleOne> kop: do you have a support question?
[21:43] <kyle_> Is there like a beep command for ubuntu
[21:43] <kop> so the scenario is use "twinkle" to make a voip connection and then quit . Then use skype to make a connection and then quit . So back at twinkle now "cannot access mic device is busy , cannot access speaker device is busy , . I need a way to see what resources twinke and skype are using like piping lsof to a file and generating diffs of something  . so far I'm getting nowhere ...
[21:43] <erUSUL> sargento: no the floppy driver is "floppy" so « echo "floppy" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/floppy_blacklist.conf »
[21:43] <IdleOne> kop: pulseaudio/skype is still using the audio device
[21:43] <erUSUL> sargento: no the floppy driver is "floppy" so « echo "blacklist floppy" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/floppy_blacklist.conf »
[21:44] <kop> IdleOne, yes and it's gone unanswered in various forms for weeks
[21:44] <erUSUL> sargento: sorry
[21:44] <sargento> This is what I supposed to paste in terminal? echo "blacklist floppy" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/floppy_blacklist.conf
[21:44] <kop> IdleOne, read it again I have no idea as PA has been eradicated from my system
[21:44] <erUSUL> sargento: correct
[21:45] <kop> there is no PA on my system
[21:45] <sargento> erUSUL: How can I check If I did it right?
[21:45] <IdleOne> kop: ok then I tend to blame skype. I assume you are using alsa instead of PA?
[21:45] <erUSUL> sargento: cat /etc/modprobe.d/floppy_blacklist.conf
[21:45] <kop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9451378&postcount=34
[21:45] <kop> yes
[21:46] <kop> no PA and using ALSA
[21:46] <sargento> It just said: "blacklist floppy"
[21:46] <sargento> erUSUL: Is that right?
[21:46] <IdleOne> kop: kill any running skype processes that should release the audio device
[21:46] <erUSUL> sargento: with the quotes ?
[21:46] <Darko-A87> hi
[21:46] <kop> IdleOne, no it doesn't
[21:46] <sargento> Nop, without them
[21:47] <kop> reboot is the only way I've found
[21:47] <sargento> erUSUL: Nop, without them
[21:47] <kop> annoying to say the least
[21:47] <erUSUL> sargento: its ok
[21:47] <sargento> erUSUL: Ok, let me try it. Thanks.
[21:47] <uLinux> I'm using StartUp-Manager to edit grub even I if enable 'Show boot splash' or 'Show text during boot' it won't work... I upgrade from Karmic to Lucid
[21:47] <uLinux> upgraded
[21:47] <Vigo> uLinux: Could be a few things, here is a forum thread on it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470876&highlight=repair+boot+splash
[21:48] <IdleOne> kop: tried restarting alsa?
[21:48] <kop> that is why I asked some bright lad here for a method of seeing and dumping to file the processes used by and app so that I could create a diff to see wth was happening
[21:49] <kop> from /inet.d/ in 9.04 and as upstart in 10.04  no joy
[21:49] <uLinux> Vigo: I even tried to change resolution and color depth but has nothing to do I guess
[21:49] <kop>   /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop start ...
[21:50] <Vigo> uLinux: Full Ubuntu or Dual Boot?
[21:50] <kop> only alsa process that tab complete brings up
[21:50] <uLinux> dual boot
[21:50] <IdleOne> kop: you can try asking in #ubuntu-audio-help but be patient as it is a small channel
[21:51] <uLinux> Vigo: dual boot
[21:51] <kop> IdleOne, understood
[21:51] <kop> but
[21:51] <IdleOne> kop: the main people in the channel are at a conference as I understand it
[21:52] <sargento> erUSUL: Sory to bother you but that message is still coming.
[21:52] <williballenthin> how can i figure out which hard drive has my MBR?
[21:52] <Vigo> uLinux: Random Freezes and Hang Ups?
[21:52] <kop> PulseAudio sucks , just ask google , 90,200 ppl can't all be wrong :D
[21:52] <erUSUL> sargento: can i see your fstab ?
[21:52] <kop> IdleOne, l8r and tnx
[21:52] <IdleOne> kop: no problem
[21:52] <kary> help, is there any way to mount a partition that was apart of a raid1 array and read its contents?
[21:53] <sargento> erUSUL: Of course, but let me know if you see my message this time.
[21:53] <sargento> !paste
[21:53] <erUSUL> kary: what type of array ?
[21:53] <kary> erUSUL, Raid1
[21:54] <uLinux> Vigo: it just won't show any spash screen or text.. but Ubuntu boots normally (im using it)
[21:54] <uLinux> splash
[21:54] <sargento> erUSUL: Did you see my paste?
[21:54] <kary> erUSUL, I have two drives in my server, 1 40gb and 1 120gb.  the 120 gb is partitioned as 40gb, 2gb and the rest.  I Raid 1 the two 40gb partitions.  Now, after updates, my system won't boot anymore, and i want to get data off it just in case
[21:54] <Zelozelos> is it possible to network ubuntu with a machine running vista and another running xp?
[21:55] <erUSUL> kary: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/recovering-data-from-remaining-raid-1-disk-723225/
[21:55] <erUSUL> Zelozelos: yes
[21:55] <kary> erUSUL, thank you, i'll read that through
[21:55] <sargento> Zelozelos: I think you can do it with SAMBA
[21:55] <erUSUL> sargento: you did not give us the url
[21:55] <sargento> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/448866/
[21:56] <sargento> erUSUL: Sorry, I never do this before.
[21:56] <erUSUL> sargento: and « lsmod | grep floppy » does return anything ?
[21:57] <sargento> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/448868/
[21:57] <Zelozelos> ok, heres the plan, i have a motorola sbg6580, 3 wireless connected lappies, 1 w ubuntu 9.4/xp other w vista and 10.04, a desktop w xp, and another with kubuntu, some files to share between and  a printer that i want to be able to use w all of em...whaddoya think?
[21:57] <erUSUL> sargento: ok apparently the blacklist did not work ...
[21:58] <Zelozelos> OH the 3rd lappie is only xo
[21:58] <Zelozelos> err xp
[21:58] <sargento> !blacklist
[21:58] <Vigo> uLinux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470876&highlight=lucid+splash+screen
[21:58] <sargento> !samba
[21:58] <sargento> Zeloszelos.
[21:58] <sargento> Zeloszelos: !samba
[21:58] <uLinux> yeah Vigo tks im gonna try that
[21:59] <Zelozelos> zelozelos !samba
[21:59] <Zelozelos> heh
[21:59] <Zelozelos> Zelozelos: !samba
[21:59] <Vigo> uLinux: That looks the fix, Dino's post is good.
[21:59] <Zelozelos> ;) ill just look it up on my own
[21:59] <sargento> esUSUL: How can I know my floppy modulename?
[21:59] <guntbert> !askthebot | Zelozelos
[22:00] <erUSUL> sargento: as i said is "floppy" as it appears in the lsmod output
[22:02] <lfitz> the drwxrwxrwx is in what format? owner, group, all?
[22:02] <lfitz> i forgot the order :-P
[22:02] <llutz> lfitz: right
[22:03] <uLinux> reboot
[22:03] <lfitz> llutz: 1st rwx is owner, then group, and finally all, correct?
[22:03] <llutz> lfitz: right
[22:03] <Zelozelos> heh, too complicated for my little brain but im thinking i need a machine 2 use as a server for the whole thing?
[22:03] <lfitz> i used chmod o+x and it changed to drw-rw-rwx
[22:04] <lfitz> llutz: ^^
[22:04] <llutz> lfitz: o=other
[22:04] <guntbert> lfitz: the third triple is "others" not "all"
[22:04] <lfitz> okay
[22:05] <p1und3r> has anyone tried to install windows 7 in virtualbox and get an error saying Windows could not set your locale information?
[22:05] <guntbert> p1und3r: what has that to do with unbuntu support
[22:05] <acer_> hello guys!
[22:05] <p1und3r> host computer is ubuntu, and maybe someone has also had this problem
[22:05] <Gnea> !vbox | p1und3r
[22:06] <Zelozelos> isnt win 7 like a vm-hybrid anyhow? how could you install it as a vm?
[22:06] <p1und3r> virtualbox seems to support it
[22:06] <Gnea> guntbert: unbuntu? :)
[22:06] <erUSUL> p1und3r: #vbox ?
[22:07] <guntbert> Gnea: clumsy fingers syndrome :-)
[22:07] <p1und3r> ubuntu community is usually more helpful than any other
[22:07] <p1und3r> :D
[22:08] <acer_> I just installed Ubuntu over win 7. I was prompted to update some stuff and now while it is installing Grub I got prompted again about if I want to continue without installing Grub, but I need it. Though it as already installed. I can avoid checking the option box but the Next button doesn't proceed this way. What should I do, could someone help me please?
[22:08] <epsilom> HI, I have problems with mysql in ubuntu 10.04, how complete delete mysql-server files an db?
[22:08] <Gnea> acer_: just install grub
[22:09] <sweetprince> Change icon size
[22:09] <acer_> Gnea, I have Grub installed. It is asking me if I don't want to install it. I am afraid to loose what I have.
[22:09] <SlidingHorn> epsilom: I'd be very careful about that, but this will delete mysql-server, any dependencies & configurations: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server
[22:10] <Gnea> acer_: the only way you'd lose anything is if your grub.cfg or menu.lst got overwritten
[22:10] <sargento> !blacklist
[22:10] <SlidingHorn> epsilom: that MAY also remove dependencies of other programs as well, so i'd be careful to read everything it says it's deleting
[22:10] <sweetprince> How can you change the icon size in a file dialog?
[22:10] <acer_> Gnea, ok, I will try to check the box. Be right back, need a restart here. Thank you for now.
[22:11] <sargento> erUSUL: I just created "/etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist" and add "blacklist floppy" and it did the trick. Thanks a lot for your help.
[22:11] <erUSUL> sargento: ok
[22:11] <necrodearia> sweetprince, I'm not sure, but I am having the same issue.
[22:11] <guntbert> sargento: if you type /msg ubottu blacklist you will get the answer in a private window, where it doesn't scroll off the screen :-)
[22:12] <epsilom> SlidingHorn: hi, I try apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.1   but stop in Desinstalando mysql-server-5.1 ...
[22:12] <timmillwood> Looking for the most compatible 10" netbook for ubuntu
[22:13] <astralpop> Hi
[22:13] <softt> i'm trying to batch resize some images using imagemagick's convert function.  does convert not work friendly with regex?  i did: for f in *.jpg ; do bn= `basename $f .jpg` ; convert -geometry 225x300 $f $bn.JPG ; done  - but convert just tries to use the basenames stripped of file extensions as though they were commands, and it fails
[22:13] <bruno_> k
[22:13] <SlidingHorn> epsilom: not sure what you mean..could you copy the error and paste it @ http://paste.ubuntu.com - then give us the link and we'll take a look?
[22:13] <softt> i want them to retain their filenames, which is why i wasn't just using a * wildcard
[22:14] <llutz> softt:  ${bn}.JPG
[22:14] <PatrinStar> can anyone explain to me how i can mount a windows 7 iso image to a usb flash drive so i can install it to my laptop?
[22:14] <astralpop> Which packages do I need for Wine ?
[22:14] <softt> llutz: oh. could you explain the syntax?
[22:15] <guntbert> !ot | PatrinStar
[22:15] <duff> PatrinStar, plenty of googles for i.
[22:15] <linusoleander> I'm trying to get all processes that is started by ruby using this command:
[22:15] <linusoleander> ps aux | grep ruby
[22:15] <duff> it*
[22:15] <PatrinStar> all right
[22:15] <llutz> softt:     content of $bn+".JPG"
[22:15] <linusoleander> The problem is that I as root cant see everyting
[22:16] <linusoleander> I cant see some of the deamons started by rails for i.e
[22:16] <linusoleander> Why is that=
[22:16] <guntbert> !enter | linusoleander
[22:16] <softt> llutz: fantastic! i see. going to give it a try
[22:16] <linusoleander> Sorry :)
[22:17] <erUSUL> softt: i guess you want mogrify that modify's the file in place « for f in ./*.jpg; do mogrify -geometry 225x300 "$f" ; done
[22:17] <Vooloo> I have 4 GB memory, but free -m says 3700 mb used, and 190 mb free ?!
[22:18] <erUSUL> softt: or simply « mogrify -geometry 225x300 *.jpg »
[22:18] <ikonia>  Vooloo thats fine
[22:18] <epsilom> SlidingHorn: ok, apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.1 is complete but the files persist
[22:18] <softt> llutz: btw, ${bn} did not work, i still get for ex. 24th: command not found (file was 24th.jpg)
[22:18] <Vooloo> ikonia: how so?
[22:18] <softt> erUSUL: ahh, did not know about that command.
[22:18] <ikonia> Vooloo: its using ram as cache
[22:18] <SlidingHorn> epsilom: you'll probably have to restart
[22:18] <llutz> softt: do you have a space after bn= ?
[22:18] <acer_> well, now Grub installed 2 more lines at the loading menu. How do I edit it?
[22:18] <erUSUL> softt: from imagemagik too
[22:18] <Vooloo> ikonia: ah
[22:19] <epsilom> SlidingHorn: ok........
[22:19] <hugomelo> hello, i can't my lvm partition from ubuntu lucid amd64 live cd. i've tried to install lvm2 package but it couldn't be installed as initramfs could not find /vmlinuz. please help :)
[22:19] <softt> llutz: yes, bn= `basename $f .jpg`
[22:19] <llutz> softt: there has to be no space! bn=$(basename $f .jpg)
[22:19] <hugomelo> hello, i can't see my lvm volumes from ubuntu lucid amd64 live cd. i've tried to install lvm2 package but it couldn't be installed as initramfs could not find /vmlinuz. please help :)
[22:19] <guntbert> Vooloo: please read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[22:19] <acer_> Is it possible to turn my laptop main screen off when I use a external device to watch a movie?
[22:19] <softt> llutz: oh, whoops.  i see what you did there
[22:19] <ikonia> hugomelo: don't mess with system lvm's from a livecd, use the real install for that
[22:20] <softt> erUSUL: mogrify was much easier though ;-)
[22:20] <nfearnley> I'm having problems reconnecting my bluetooth keyboard after it disconnects. It works fine after it's paired, but if it disconnects I have to remove the pairing and re-pair to get it to work again. What do I need to do to get it to reconnect automatically?
[22:20] <llutz> softt: backticks are ugly, btw :)
[22:20] <hugomelo> ikonia, i can't, the system is not bootable at the moment :(
[22:20] <darkkrai> how do I share my ubuntu wireless connection with my buddy with windows 7?
[22:20] <softt> llutz: what do i know, i just cannibalized it from some other script ;-(
[22:20] <Vooloo> guntbert: haha nice, it is clever
[22:20] <darkkrai> we are connected with an ethernet cable
[22:20] <darkkrai> I has wireless
[22:20] <darkkrai> please halps us
[22:20] <softt> llutz: my understanding of regex is intuitive and not encyclopedic
[22:21] <SlidingHorn> !enter darkkrai
[22:21] <darkkrai> !enter
[22:21] <unop> softt, you've used no regex so far :)
[22:21] <llutz> softt: no regex at all
[22:21] <softt> LOL
[22:21] <softt> <- kills self
[22:21] <darkkrai> well can you help me?
[22:21] <apstanto> What command would I use to start the Gnome disk utility?  I'm trying to format a flash drive.
[22:21] <guntbert> SlidingHorn: you missed the |  to send it to someone
[22:22] <SlidingHorn> must be a mod thing..either way darkkrai -- right click your network manager and edit connections, select the network and edit...dont remember what tab it's in, but select allow network sharing
[22:22] <epsilom> SlidingHorn: ls /var/lib/mysql/ : debian-5.1.flag ibdata1  ib_logfile0  ib_logfile1  mysql
[22:22] <hx_1223> hi, why i cant use the option -e in netcat in ubuntu 10.04? i have upgrade ubuntu from version 8 and now im missing some option in netcat, how there any quick fix? thanks for answer
[22:22] <suprengr> ,epsil
[22:22] <ikonia> hx_1223: check the man page for the version of netcat you are using, make sure -e is still avalid option
[22:22] <hx_1223> *is there any quick fix? :)
[22:23] <ikonia> hx_1223: read what I said
[22:23] <softt> unop: you mean that all of these { } $ etc don't meet the definition?
[22:23] <epsilom> SlidingHorn: can I delete  /var/lib/mysql/ without problems?
[22:23] <unop> softt, nope
[22:23] <softt> unop: i see. what shall i call these guys then
[22:24] <unop> softt, shell expressions perhaps? :)
[22:24] <hx_1223> in man pages isnt the option avi. what is dose mean?
[22:24] <softt> unop: well, this is an argument for learning this the right way lol
[22:24] <unop> hx_1223,  install netcat-traditional -- it provides a -e
[22:24] <ikonia> hx_1223: if the man page says -e no longer exists, then it's no longer in that vesion
[22:24] <darkkrai> can someone help?
[22:25] <Blue1> darkkrai: depends
[22:25] <softt> say, another question.  by an unfortunate accident, i have a bunch of files prefixed with a hyphen and no suffix.  they are like -12 -34 -11... i'm not having luck commenting out the hyphen in order to delete them
[22:26] <hx_1223> ah ok, thank you :) @unop,ikonia
[22:26] <zleap> is it - or ~
[22:26] <unop> softt,  rm -- -12 -34 -11
[22:26] <unop> softt, or  rm ./-12 ./-24 ./-11
[22:27] <softt> unop: thank you.  i guess this is a special case where \ , quotes etc. do not work?
[22:27] <SlidingHorn> helping someone on the forums and wondering why their a2enmod isn't applying to subdirectories...any tips people?
[22:27] <topdownjimmy> I don't have SMB available in the "Share through" dropdown of the Shared Folders dialog, although I do have Samba installed.  Is there a package I might be missing?
[22:28] <unop> softt, right, because the shell gets to escape everything before your utility (i.e. rm) gets to act on it
[22:28] <SlidingHorn> epsilom: as far as I'm aware, you should be able to if you're not looking to use mysql, but you may want to check with others too
[22:29] <kennyG_> Is it possible to put my laptop screen to sleep while I use a external connection?
[22:29] <ikonia> kennyG_: most laptops can do that with function keys
[22:30] <ikonia> kennyG_: you swap out/disable the interal monitor
[22:30] <Kioho> anyone know why i get this error, the file is right where it looks for it: "C:\windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorwks.dll could not be loaded"
[22:30] <wiktor> jakie sa kanaly?
[22:30] <Kioho> (that is .net installed in wine)
[22:30] <RambJoe> wtf
[22:30] <RambJoe> when did valve canel e3
[22:30] <wiktor> Hi
[22:30] <softt> unop: gotcha.  thanks for the micro-lesson!
[22:30] <ikonia> RambJoe: please control your languge
[22:31] <kennyG_> ikonia, let me test it. thank you.
[22:31] <RambJoe> woops wrong channel
[22:31] <wiktor> im Starting Do You know good channels
[22:31] <ubutom_> Kioho, try wineconfig and setting that dll in the menu, there is some entry for such things there, could solve it
[22:32] <Kioho> thanks ubutom_ ill try that :>
[22:32] <wiktor> wow 1510 users
[22:32] <YamashiTa> somebody can help me... how i can register my nickname ?
[22:33] <greezmunkey> *Q* I have data files in a directory off of root that is owned by my user and group that I want to pull into a mysql database, but I get a permissions error. Would the right way to do this be to create a world readable directory, or one that is read/write for the mysql group?
[22:33] <nUboon2Age> darkkrai: you'll need to explain your problem better.
[22:33] <unop> !register | YamashiTa
[22:33] <suprengr>  !register | suprengr
[22:34] <unop> greezmunkey, what are the permissions exactly?
[22:34] <SlidingHorn> darkkrai: i already posted how...right click your network manager, edit connections, edit your wired network and select "allow network sharing"
[22:34] <greezmunkey> unop: the exiating dir is group/user == my current user
[22:34] <wiktor> I got strange network problems slows down how i can clear
[22:34] <unop> greezmunkey, show us the output of   ls -l /your_dir
[22:34] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Is it possible to execute a find command through the commandline interface that includes hidden directories, such as the .metadata directory for eclipse workspaces?
[22:35] <luis_> yo
[22:35] <luis_> what is this chat for
[22:35] <unop> SeanInSeattle,  find some_dir/ -name ".*" -type df
[22:35] <YamashiTa> !register | YamashiTa
[22:35] <unop> SeanInSeattle, err     find some_dir/ -name ".*" -type d
[22:35] <greezmunkey> unop: drwxr-xr-x 2 stevec stevec     4096 2010-06-12 12:42 CallingArea
[22:35] <Jordan_U> acer_: Going back to your grub problem, do you have a directory /dev/disk/by-id/? "ls /dev/disk/by-id" to test.
[22:35] <SeanInSeattle> @unop thx.
[22:36] <greezmunkey> unop: I don't care if you know my name :)
[22:36] <steffan> luis_: support for the linux distribution Ubuntu
[22:36] <schlaftier> doesn't find go through dot directories anyway?
[22:36] <llutz> schlaftier: it does
[22:36] <keith_> Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for helping me get my comp set up..wireless working great now
[22:36] <unop> greezmunkey, hmm, that looks ok - and what's the error you get?
[22:37] <SlidingHorn> keith_ glad to hear it...good luck! :)
[22:37] <greezmunkey> unop: to be fair, CallingGroup is a subdirectory of SteveHome which I created off of root. It is symlinked to my home directoru
[22:37] <jalexbrown> I installed Kubuntu 10.04, and I really ended up not liking KDE.  If I installed Gnome and then uninstalled KDE, would that be okay?  Or do I actually need to uninstall Kubuntu and install Ubuntu?
[22:37] <enkidu> hi there. how can I get rid of libs not listed in package-provides?
[22:37] <soadkombucha> OK here's a new question
[22:37] <enkidu> jalexbrown: doesnt matter
[22:37] <greezmunkey> unop: both dirs have the same user/group perms
[22:38] <SlidingHorn> jalexbrown: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome should help you
[22:38] <luis_> jalexbrown: yea either way kde and gnome are just desktop environments
[22:38] <soadkombucha> Earlier, I couldn't even boot into ubuntu live
[22:38] <soadkombucha> Now I have it installed
[22:38] <soadkombucha> But it isn't running with ACPI off
[22:38] <luis_> jalexbrown: do w.e u want
[22:38] <soadkombucha> Where do I add the line acpi=off in boot edit options?
[22:38] <unop> greezmunkey,  so basically CallingGroup exists in your homedir?
[22:38] <SlidingHorn> jalexbrown: before you do what that site says, makesure you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:38] <guntbert> !u | luis_
[22:39] <jalexbrown> I just didn't want to end up having a bunch of unnecessary files or removing files that I need.
[22:39] <greezmunkey> unop: the issue is with mysql, I added my group to its perms, but the query that tries to read in the file fails, so I'm kind of stuch - having only a rudimentary knowledge of *nix permissions.
[22:39] <SlidingHorn> jalexbrown: then simply: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then run the command that that site says
[22:39] <soadkombucha> unop: SlidingHorn: May I ask a seemingly stupid boot question?
[22:40] <wiktor> wypiłem browara wasze zdrowie
[22:40] <royceremer_> soadkombucha: no stupid quesitons, only stupid answers! :D
[22:40] <jalexbrown> SlidingHorn: Okay, that's what I'm doing right now.  I just wanted to make sure if wasn't going to mess anything up.
[22:40] <SlidingHorn> soadkombucha: go ahead..I'm not good on boot issues, but I'll try :)  btw, just ask in the future, you dont need to ask to ask ;)
[22:40] <guntbert> !pl | wiktor
[22:40] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: I did ask
[22:40] <unop> greezmunkey, it would help a lot if you could .. 1. list the permissions of all paths in question.  2. list the commands you used and errors you get.   Use the !pastebin to put this info up so we can have a look.
[22:40] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: Umm OK so earlier I couldn't even get a live boot, but I got the acpi=off option on on the live CD
[22:40] <astralpop> Any recommendations for installing Eve?
[22:40] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: Where, when I press e to edit temporarily, do I add the acpi=off/noacpi line?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> acer_: The error you recieved won't cause problems now, but could with future upgrades.
[22:41] <royceremer_> soadkombucha: so you're trying to boot from  live ubuntu cd (that's known good? I've seen bad burns) - and it won't boot from it?
[22:41] <greezmunkey> unop: can do. brb
[22:41] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: No
[22:41] <keith_> got a ?: I looking to personalize my desktop more..backgrounds, gadgets, etc. Any good places to explore what's out there?
[22:41] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: I'm trying to boot from an instlal now
[22:41] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: I got the live booted. Ubuntu is installed. But now I'm getting the same error
[22:41] <SlidingHorn> keith_: try gnome-look.org or kde-look.org depending on what flavor you have
[22:41] <jalexbrown> The other question I have, I know the answer is probably not, but here goes.  I have Windows 7 installed on this machine with Ubuntu.  Is there any way that I can get a Virtual Machine that will let me run a physical install of Windows 7 within Ubuntu?
[22:42] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: Where do I put the acpi=off line once I hit e to go into edit mode
[22:42] <acer_> Jordan_U, what do you recommend, and whay do you think it happened?
[22:42] <keith_> thanks
[22:42] <SlidingHorn> !enter | soadkombucha
[22:42] <Rafael_> hi...i need some help on how to upload a website..i have installed php, apache, etc...have no clue how to upload the website ?
[22:42] <acer_> Rafael_, loook for a ftp application then
[22:42] <ikonia> Rafael_: just put them in the document root, which is normally /var/www/html
[22:42] <Rafael_> i have prftp installed
[22:42] <Rafael_> proftpd
[22:43] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: That's the only thing I need to do. Then once I get that working I'll be back in here to figure out how to do it permanently (assuming I can get my keyboard working)
[22:43] <keith_> I hear VMWare will let you run Win7 in Ubuntu.
[22:43] <SlidingHorn> Rafael_: ikonia: actually apache by default uses /var/www/htdocs if I remember correctly -- simply use your ftp program of choice and upload to there
[22:43] <soadkombucha> Virtual Box?
[22:43] <Rafael_> acer_ ikon ia: do i have to configure anythign on apache...
[22:43] <jalexbrown> Is either Virtual Box or VMWare free?
[22:43] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: Would you happen to know how to do that? I know WHAT I need to add, I just don't know WHERE to add it
[22:43] <acer_> Rafael_, but if you are about to use your own machine to host your files, you won't need a ftp. Just put the files you need to host on the directory ikonia told you.
[22:43] <soadkombucha> jalexbrown: VirtualBox is free
[22:44] <Jordan_U> acer_: I think you are running into this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/565146
[22:44] <SlidingHorn> soadkombucha: unfortunately I dont :(  sorry
[22:44] <keith_> Both VBox and VNWare have free versions
[22:44] <soadkombucha> jalexbrown: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[22:44] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: I tried adding it at the end, it didn't work
[22:44] <royceremer_> soadkombucha: so you're editing grub.conf?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> acer_: Which is why I asked about /dev/disk/by-id/
[22:44] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: Not yet... Temporary edit.
[22:44] <jalexbrown> And will Virtual Box let me run a Windows install that is physically installed on my PC?
[22:45] <soadkombucha> jalexbrown: Nothing will
[22:45] <keith_> I have Win7 and Ubuntu dual-booted though.
[22:45] <royceremer_> soadkombucha: I thought you wanted it to be permanent, and that would be the place to do it
[22:45] <guntbert> jalexbrown: please ask question about virtual box in #vbox
[22:45] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: I do want it to be permanent. But I want to get booted into the install first.
[22:45] <Rafael_> well i fisnich building my website with wepplusx2 on a 2windows machine..i nkon you have to uploaded it and that is were i was stuck...and were to uploaded
[22:45] <SlidingHorn> jalexbrown: no, you'll have to install a clean version...you can *access* your windows files by mounting the partition, but that's about it
[22:45] <jalexbrown> Okay, thanks guntbert.
[22:45] <Rafael_> and after this do i need to do anything to the configuration of apache?
[22:46] <soadkombucha> royceremer_: I tried appending acpi=off at the end, but it still kernel panicked. Is there a special format that I need? Like --acpi=off/--noacpi in a specific place?
[22:46] <SlidingHorn> Rafael_: it really depends on a million other factors...what technologies/languages are used on your site, etc.  if it's just a basic site, apache should be configured as you need it from setup
[22:46] <acer_> Jordan_U, I will reboot from Ubuntu. Just give me a sec please.
[22:46] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Put it at the end of the linux line, after "quiet splash"
[22:46] <darko3d> logging in from kde, give me a ksmerver failed error, anybody knows what that means and how to fix it
[22:46] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Thank you
[22:47] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Do I need to append -- to it?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: No
[22:47] <dAlfa89_> Hey, I've got three problems: 1) Whenever I shutdown/reboot on Ubuntu, it gives a kind of glitchy/artefacted display before actually doing what it's supposed to. 2) The username/shutdown button in the top right has been cut in half, only showing half the username. And 3) I don't yet know how to access Ubuntu shares from Windows, what's the syntax for what to put in Windows' "Add network place" dialog?
[22:47] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: OK. Once I get booted into it, assuming I can get my keyboard working, I'll come ask how to edit grub.conf
[22:48] <Rafael_> SlidingHorn: i use webmin to configure ubuntu (i know people do not like it), do i need anything special to configure there..the website is in english
[22:48] <greezmunkey> unop: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/448894/
[22:48] <guntbert> !webmin | Rafael_
[22:49] <SlidingHorn> Rafael_: by languages I meant PHP, ASP, etc.  I'm assuming your site is most likely just HTML, in which case, no...you shouldn't have any problems with apache serving your site up
[22:49] <CyberaX2195> When soad comes back , tell him he shouldn't edit grub.conf directly as his changes will get overwritten, he needs to edit /etc/default/grub, and CHANGE GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT e.g. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi=off"
[22:49] <greezmunkey> unop: additionally, I tried the query with " and with ' surrounding the filename, same result
[22:49] <CyberaX2195> once he's done that he needs to run update-grub
[22:49] <Vooloo> is it possible to fold a window into a titlebar only? by like, double clicking the title bar? this works on fluxbox
[22:49] <greezmunkey> unop: did you get my pastebin url?
[22:49] <unop> greezmunkey, there seems to be no  TechnocomLocal.txt file in  /SteveHome/CallingArea/
[22:50] <unop> greezmunkey, ls -l /SteveHome/CallingArea/TechnocomLocal.txt
[22:50] <figaroo> Hi all
[22:51] <SlidingHorn> figaroo: howdy, how can we help?
[22:51] <greezmunkey> unop: I gave an example listing from /SteveHome/CallingArea - the file exists: -rw-r--r-- 1 stevec stevec 14045 2010-06-12 12:42 TechnocomLocal.txt
[22:51] <greezmunkey> unop: there are hundreds of files there :)
[22:51] <figaroo> I was wonder if there's a way to get ubuntu to run in the background on my windows machine, so that way I can connect to it through SSH?
[22:51] <acer_> Jordan_U, yes. I may have that dir.
[22:51] <figaroo> In other words, get it set up like a server on my windows machine, while still being able to run windows
[22:52] <darko3d> logging in from kde, give me a ksmerver failed error, anybody knows what that means and how to fix it
[22:52] <acer_> Jordan_U, at least I've typed it on my terminal and it listed something.
[22:52] <Rafael_> SlidingHorn: Thanks...i see on webmin that i have on apache a  efault Server and a Virtual Server...do i need to create anything there or any new virtual server?
[22:52] <acer_> Jordan_U, want me to paste it somewhere?
[22:52] <larompa> I'm having troubles with flash on amd64 ubuntu 10.04. Out of nothing, randomly my flash videos or so turn gray and are inactive until refresh. Is there a way to fix this?
[22:53] <greezmunkey> unop: someone in #mysql suggested making the directory world readable. My original question was if that was the proper way to achieve mysql being able to read the data, or if I should lock it down more than that.
[22:53] <Slart> larompa: sounds like the flash plugin is crashing.. and no.. I don't think there are any good solutions
[22:53] <figaroo> I want to learn linux server administration, without having to pay for a provider.
[22:53] <unop> greezmunkey,  you mentioned something about a symlink earlier - i don't see any symlinks here
[22:53] <unop> greezmunkey, I suspect if you had a permissions problem - the error would indicate that and say something like "permission denied"
[22:54] <larompa> Slart,  Ohh...this looks bad then :)
[22:54] <guntbert> greezmunkey: if someone tells you to "make it world readable" - don't trust them in that case until they explain
[22:54] <Jordan_U> acer_: Yes, please pastebin the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"
[22:54] <larompa> Slart,  Thanks anyway :P
[22:54] <larompa> Slart, don't know if I can use gnash for youtube?
[22:54] <Slart> larompa: well.. it's flash and adobe.. doesn't get uglier than that =)
[22:55] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: OK I did acpi=off and noapic
[22:55] <Slart> larompa: I haven't tried gnash for a while.. perhaps it has improved
[22:55] <greezmunkey> unop: I'm severly lagged here, sorry
[22:55] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Now I'm getting the same error that showed up when I used to attempt to do a live boot. I took a picture and uploaded it to tinypic: http://i47.tinypic.com/29c46eq.jpg
[22:55] <larompa> Slart,  I know but web designers/web programmers use it sadly.
[22:55] <Slart> larompa: yup
[22:55] <guntbert> Vooloo: go to system/preferences/window - change titlebar action
[22:56] <nibblebot> is there anything like apt-cache search that shows which of the packages i have installed (besides synaptic)?
[22:56] <unop> nibblebot, dpkg -l
[22:56] <Slart> nibblebot: dpkg -l will list installed packages
[22:56] <llutz> nibblebot: dpkg -l|grep ^ii
[22:56] <Vooloo> guntbert: awesome, thanks
[22:57] <unop> greezmunkey, in case you didn't already get this .. "  you mentioned something about a symlink earlier - i don't see any symlinks here "
[22:57] <guntbert> Vooloo: you're welcome :-)
[22:57] <acer_> Jordan_U, all right, it is at: http://pastebin.com/p1pV72Ea
[22:57] <soadkombucha> Anyone who can help me resolve an error like this: http://i47.tinypic.com/29c46eq.jpg It used to show up during a live boot, now it's showing up on an actualy Ubuntu 10.04 install
[22:58] <greezmunkey> unop: I figured that was an aside... I have a symlink in /home/stevec that merely points to /SteveHome - I's simply there to make it quicker to move data from my home directory to /SteveHome within Nautilus
[22:58] <guntbert> nibblebot: or apt-cache pkgnames
[22:59] <Jordan_U> acer_: Interesting, that seems fine. Can you try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc"? It will ask you some questions, the one you care about is the one about install devices (if it's presented). For the other questions just leave them at their default. Some will be blank, that's normal.
[22:59] <nibblebot> hmm none of those do quite what i want
[22:59] <nibblebot> want to show both installed and available that match a search pattern ala synaptic
[22:59] <elizabeth_> Hi. I'm new to ubuntu and I foolishly upgraded to version 10.04 without thinking and now my wireless won't work. I've googled until my eyes spin round and I gather this is a common problem but I am struggling to sort it out. Terminal is telling me there is no connection. My wired connection is working okay.
[22:59] <nibblebot> not just installed
[23:00] <darko3d> logging in from kde, it gave me a 'ksmerver failed' error, anybody knows what that means and how to fix it?????????????
[23:00] <darko3d> logging in using kde*
[23:00] <greezmunkey> unop: I think I'll create a data directory that is read/write for the mysql group and put the data there and see what happens,
[23:00] <Rafael_> guys..i do not have any folder var/www/html or var/www/htdocs...should it be thre by default or i have to create it?
[23:00] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Did you see what I said up there?
[23:01] <banker247> anyone use vtiger?
[23:01] <unop> greezmunkey, well, i suspect you can get away with just adding execute on SteveHome and CallingArea ...
[23:01] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Yes, I'm not sure what's happening. Did you press ctrl+x to execute the edited entry? (hitting escape loses the changes)
[23:01] <SlidingHorn> banker247: i have it locally set up on my laptop -- liking it a lot
[23:01] <unop> greezmunkey,   chmod +X /SteveHome /SteveHome/CallingArea
[23:01] <Out`Of`Control> Is there a tool to install Ubutnu from a USB flesh drive?
[23:01] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Alright. Lemme go try again
[23:01] <soadkombucha> Out`Of`Control: Yes.
[23:01] <acer_> Jordan_U, man, I got stuck in the first question. It's about a linux command line. Empty.
[23:01] <greezmunkey> unop: I didn't think of that...
[23:02] <banker247> SlidingHorn mind if i PM you?
[23:02] <greezmunkey> unop: It's wrth a try
[23:02] <Jordan_U> !install | Out`Of`Control
[23:02] <SlidingHorn> banker247 not at all
[23:02] <soadkombucha> Out`Of`Control: You can do it manually using syslinux from command line. I know there's an app out there...
[23:02] <unop> greezmunkey, right now, the mysql process isn't able to access CallingArea because of the absence of this bit
[23:02] <soadkombucha> But be right back
[23:02] <Out`Of`Control> thanks
[23:02] <nibblebot> i guess synaptic is using both dpkg and apt-cache search to return a list of all packages matching search criteria and show which are installed and which are not?
[23:02] <unop> greezmunkey, or atleast, that's what i think is happening -- the error message is a tad bit misleading
[23:02] <Out`Of`Control> I have 6 GB ram what should i install 32 or 64 bit?
[23:02] <Jordan_U> acer_: That's normal.
[23:03] <llutz> Out`Of`Control: 64
[23:03] <Out`Of`Control> ok thanks folks!
[23:03] <greezmunkey> unop: That make sense now. I read all the docs I could find on that, but none of them mentioned that little tid-bit :)
[23:03] <Jordan_U> acer_: Just leave it empty and continue.
[23:03] <acer_> Jordan_U, it says it came from /etc/default/grub as a 'kopt' paramether. I just press *enter* now?
[23:03] <guntbert> nibblebot: to my knowledge it directly uses the apt database
[23:03] <xorwhy> After installing the nvidia drivers for my laptop, the animated ubuntu logo (that appears between selecting a kernel to boot, and x loading,) is all messed up. the resolution is off, the animation doesn't work, and it only shows for a couple seconds
[23:03] <nibblebot> is there anyway i can do the same kind of search from command line or aptitude
[23:03] <blue_anna> do I need to do anything to turn on hosts.deny filtering?
[23:03] <PatrinStar> where can i go to ask questions about how to mount images to a usb flash drive while using linux? google is too confusing
[23:04] <xorwhy> i was wondering if perhaps i could fix this in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but apparently in 10.04 there is no more menu.lst
[23:04] <nibblebot> aptitude search is too clunky, and apt-cache search doesn't tell me what i have installed
[23:04] <acer_> ok, thank you. bbt!
[23:04] <llutz> blue_anna: yes, edit /etc/hosts.deny to your needs
[23:04] <blue_anna> nibblebot apt-file search <foobar>
[23:04] <guntbert> nibblebot: you will be probably quicker if you read the man pages yourself :-)  (man aptitude,...)
[23:04] <xorwhy> So my question is two-fold, 1. how can I fix this ugly boot screen, and where is grubs config file?
[23:04] <xorwhy> ^2.
[23:04] <schlaftier> xorwhy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:05] <xorwhy> Thank you thank you thank you
[23:05] <blue_anna> llutz like this? ALL: .doubleclick.net, .adbrite.com ?
[23:05] <greezmunkey> unop: hmm, it seems that the x bit was already set on thoes directories, but obviously only for my user/group
[23:05] <schlaftier> xorwhy: There is grub.cfg which is not meant to be edited manually. Instead read about /etc/grub.d and update-grub
[23:05] <llutz> blue_anna: "man hosts.deny"
[23:05] <blue_anna> llutz, I'm still contecting to adbrite.com
[23:05] <nibblebot> aptitude forces me to descend the tree for which repo and then which category to see the search results. this is useless for me
[23:05] <unop> greezmunkey, it wasn't set on CallingArea -- atleast not in your pastebin
[23:05] <acovrig> when I do rsync it sends files to the server (/home/user/file1), then agiain (/home/user/user/file1) and so on
[23:06] <unop> nibblebot,  aptitude search "~ikeyword"   # shows installed packages matching the "keyword"
[23:06] <greezmunkey> unop: heh, I see that...moving forward :)
[23:06] <nibblebot> blue_anna, apt-file is for finding files within packages, right? i just want to search package names..
[23:06] <greezmunkey> unop: I'll run the query again, brb
[23:06] <Jordan_U> schlaftier: Editing /etc/grub.d/ is only needed for non standard configurations, normal options should be changed in /etc/default/grub .
[23:06] <nibblebot> ah aptitude search seems to work ok
[23:07] <blue_anna> nibblebot, oo, well yea,  then apt-cache or dpkg -L is the right tool
[23:07] <schlaftier> Jordan_U: yes, I'm sorry I confused that. But it's all in the Wiki anyway
[23:08] <nibblebot> blue_anna, no, none of those do what i want, aptitude search is the only one that shows both installed and not installed packages with indicators
[23:08] <nibblebot> thanks unop
[23:08] <JamesPhillips> nibblebot, apt-cache search packagename
[23:08] <nibblebot> JamesPhillips, doens't have indicators for isntalled status
[23:09] <hiexpo> everytime i try to burn an iso image to dvd it fails but to cd it works fine
[23:09] <llutz> blue_anna: hosts.deny/allow control incoming connections, not outbound
[23:09] <darko3d> logging using kde, it gave me a 'ksmerver failed' error, anybody knows what that means and how to fix it?????????????
[23:09] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: OK now I have Ubuntu booted, first how do I make acpi=off permanent, second I'm not able to connect to wireless how do I go about fixing that?
[23:10] <bithunter> xorwhy, try the link i pmed you
[23:10] <guntbert> PatrinStar: I don't understand: "mount an iso to an usb flash drive" - can you explain?
[23:10] <xorwhy> reading it
[23:10] <uLinux> How do you clean installations cache from terminal?
[23:10] <blue_anna> llutz, are you sure? hosts files used to not be stateful
[23:10] <llutz> uLinux: sudo aptitude clean
[23:11] <uLinux> ty llutz
[23:11] <blue_anna> llutz, meaning before, your computer would still send a packet to initiate a connection, but when it came back from that host it would be dropped, and no connection would be established
[23:11] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Edit the kernel parameters in /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[23:12] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: For wireless, what wireless card do you have?
[23:12] <PatrinStar> guntbert, im using linux ubuntu 9.04 and i want to take a windows 7 iso image and mount it on a 4gb flash drive so i can install windows 7 on my netbook
[23:12] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: It's realtek
[23:12] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Toshiba laptop default
[23:12] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: How do I edit the file?
[23:13] <darko3d> what applications do u recommend for someone who wants to rip dvds to filesize not bigger then 400mb on ubuntu
[23:13] <CaptainTrek> darko3d:  none
[23:14] <darko3d> CaptainTrek: what do u mean
[23:14] <gosc> kurde
[23:14] <guntbert> PatrinStar: I still don't understand  - mount means to attach a file system to a directory -- if you want to create a usb boot media for windows then this is not the right channel
[23:15] <gosc> pytanie mam, jest jakiś tu polak?
[23:15] <CaptainTrek> darko3d:  i mean that i don't recommend any applications, because there's almost none that can take an ENTIRE DVD and shrink it to under 400MB IMO
[23:15] <PatrinStar> guntbert, ok, sorry i have my terminalogy wrong. i know that, thats why im asking what channel should i go into cause i dont know where to ask without getting in trouble
[23:15] <CaptainTrek> darko3d:  also, i don't even know if your intentions are legitimate, so that's another factor.
[23:15] <BrianE> When I use a file input field in Firefox 3.6.3 (to select a file to upload on a webpage), I select a file and click 'Open'... However, the field shows the file that's above the one I selected
[23:16] <guntbert> PatrinStar: windows support is in ##windows
[23:16] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: I'm being told I do not have permisions to edit the file
[23:16] <darko3d> CaptainTrek: have u seen the 300mb movies on the web, i have a collection of 400+ dvds that i would like to get store on an external dvd
[23:16] <darko3d> stored*
[23:16] <BrianE> This is a recurring bug that can be combatted if I select a different location first, then go back to where I want to choose the file from; or if I type the exact location into the 'Location: ' bar in the dialog
[23:16] <BrianE> Is this a known bug? Is there a fix/workaround?
[23:16] <Eh> i ve intalled adobe flash 64 bit.. oh my god.. this is so horrible. when will adobe create an flash version that will work good
[23:17] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[23:17] <Ta3v> Hey I did something really stupid. I deleted that top menu panel on gnome
[23:17] <Ta3v> and i dont know how to get it back
[23:17] <Eh> if i try to watch anything in fullscreen flash it will lag so much
[23:17] <guntbert> Eh: ask them - how should *we* know?
[23:17] <Ta3v> i meant to remove this malfunctioning weather applet
[23:17] <Jordan_U> !resetpanel | Ta3v
[23:17] <Ta3v> danke
[23:18] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: OK that part is done. Now I just don't have wireless, or my touchpad
[23:18] <PatrinStar> guntbert, thank you
[23:18] <guntbert> patr
[23:18] <Lt_Wolf> lol
[23:18] <bithunter> Eh, have you tried nspluginwrapper?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: What wireless card and touchpad? Did either work from the LiveCD?
[23:19] <Eh> i dont want it.. ill watch youtube videos in vlc instead.. flash sucks so badly
[23:19] <ubutom> !pl | oOo
[23:19] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Touchpad worked, wireless didn't
[23:19] <fbianconi> Eh, yes, flash sucks.
[23:19] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Keyboard didn't work in live CD, but now it does
[23:19] <cdcdcdc> Newb Query: I installed ubuntu twice, now I want to delete the second - can i just use gparted, or do I have to mess with grub2?
[23:19] <fbianconi> Eh if is just for youtube, you can use html5
[23:19] <BrianE> cdcdcdc: You can delete its partition(s), for sure, then edit your grub menu to remove its entry
[23:20] <cdcdcdc> BrianE: thx
[23:20] <Eh> yes i know.. but i am on firefox and i cant view h264 html5.. only webm.. so i better view in vlc.. so i dont have to switch to chrome
[23:20] <Ginbun2> glines
[23:21] <Jordan_U> cdcdcdc: Make sure that the Ubuntu partition you delete isn't the one that grub is currently using for its files.
[23:21] <BrianE> Eh: That's not an Ubuntu problem, Firefox right now doesn't have h264 support; in fact only IE9 has it IIRC, because Microsoft paid for licenses
[23:22] <cdcdcdc> BrianE: that's the part i'm confused about - i don't see entries in /etc/default/grub that look like i want to edit them
[23:22] <xorwhy> bithunter: Dang thats really it, well here goes the reboot test.
[23:22] <Eh> i know its not an ubuntu problems.. thats why i said i dont want to swtich to chrome.. chrome has h264..
[23:22] <greezmunkey> unop: well now I'm really perplexed. I did what you mentioned earlier to no avail, so I created a new directory with user and group of mysql, copied that data files over and recursively changed their user/group to mysql - and the query still fails for the same reason!! Bizarre. I'm reading all about that at this point. I am obviously missing something simple.
[23:22] <Jordan_U> cdcdcdc: "sudo update-grub" will rewrite your grub.cfg, without the old Ubuntu entry (once the partition is gone that is)
[23:23] <cdcdcdc> Jordan_U: oh, great, that's what I was wondering. so update-grub actually finds all bootable partitions
[23:23] <Jordan_U> cdcdcdc: Yes.
[23:23] <Laythan> rm -rfv /*
[23:24] <Jordan_U> !danger
[23:24] <Jordan_U> !ops | Laythan
[23:24] <greezmunkey> idiot
[23:24] <SlidingHorn> nice catch Jordan_U
[23:24] <SlidingHorn> what a d-bag
[23:24] <drphresh> what does that command mean?
[23:24] <tmb> rm = remove
[23:24] <SlidingHorn> drphresh - it means delete your entire filesystem
[23:25] <drphresh> oh, like del *.* on windows?
[23:25] <greezmunkey> drphresh: more like format c:
[23:26] <drphresh> oh
[23:26] <cdcdcdc> anyone using asus ul30vt?
[23:26] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Any luck with the wireless?
[23:26] <JP02> Hey all i have an issue with ubuntu home server that is more of an ignorance issue with the CLI
[23:27] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Have you tried System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[23:27] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Checking now but will it find anything without being able to connect to the internet?
[23:27] <xorwhy> bithunter: thanks that worked, and i never would have found that
[23:27] <bithunter> :)
[23:28] <JP02> When i installed i choose to setup the network later because i was not plugged in to the network, now i dont know how to get connected to the internetor config my network connection due to the lack of a GUI
[23:28] <guntbert> !serverguide | JP02 there is a chapter about networking too
[23:28] <Flixis>  "internetor config"?
[23:28] <JP02> internet or configure*
[23:28] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: It should at least help you figure out what you need to install, which you can then copy over with a flash drive (or connect via ethernet temporarily)
[23:29] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: It didn't pull anythign up
[23:29] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: But I found some generic realtek wireless drivers that I can try
[23:29] <willwork4foo> ok, so here's a question then....
[23:29] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Realtek, ugh...
[23:29] <BrianE> cdcdcdc: Sorry, just realised my answer wasn't very helpful
[23:30] <willwork4foo> is it possible to launch a guest VM such as Windows 7, running without any graphical display?
[23:30] <BrianE> cdcdcdc: Run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg", then scroll towards the bottom; you'll see the entries there
[23:30] <sylbot> hi there, my compiz isn't working
[23:30] <sylbot> any help?
[23:30] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Yeah I know
[23:30] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: It came with my toshiba
[23:30] <willwork4foo> such as - so that I can use Windows Remote Desktop to connect to it over the network, but that on the system itself there is no X running? (host OS is Ubuntu)
[23:30] <Jordan_U> BrianE: cdcdcdc: No, /boot/grub/grub.cfg is not meant to be edited manually.
[23:30] <sylbot> i have nvdia drivers enabled, and I also have the effects enabled
[23:31] <BrianE> sylbot: That's rather generic, can you give any more information? Any errors? Specific problems?
[23:31] <bithunter> sylbot, what means "isn't working"?
[23:31] <sylbot> err, there aren't any errors, it just doesn't work
[23:31] <sylbot> like the effects don't show up
[23:31] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: I may have to wait to get internet on here until I can hardwire it into my friend's computer
[23:31] <unop> greezmunkey, are you sure you got the right filename? case and all? leading and trailing spaces?
[23:31] <sylbot> the wobbly windows, the cube, the explosion
[23:31] <sylbot> they don't happen
[23:31] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: If I ethernet it in is there a way to force it to download and install drivers?
[23:32] <trism> willwork4foo: you can do that with the virtualbox from the virtualbox site (not the ose one in the repos) and VBoxHeadless using vrdp (so the windows remote desktop should work, although I've only used rdesktop)
[23:32] <cdcdcdc> BrianE: thx, i'm just going to update grub after deleting the partition - if i can figure that out
[23:32] <guntbert> willwork4foo: what virtualization product? if virtual box ask in #vbox
[23:32] <willwork4foo> trism: I'm using the full Oracle Virtualbox 3.2
[23:32] <willwork4foo> not using OSE
[23:32] <willwork4foo> ah ok - thanks
[23:33] <BrianE> Jordan_U / cdcdcdc: Sorry, Jordan_U is correct; I haven't edited GRUB configuration myself since about 9.04, so I was presuming it was the same idea as with the old menu.lst
[23:33] <BrianE> Jordan_U: How is it edited now?
[23:33] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: However I do now have a properly booting ubuntu install... I'll wait for my friend to see what I can do. Thank you for all the help :)
[23:33] <sylbot> I don't really know what else I can do. I mean, there are no specific errors or anything, the effects are just not happening
[23:33] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: In general, most of the time hardware isn't working it's because the code to use it isn't there or is broken. You can't "force" something to start working, and I wouldn't call installing drivers "forcing" :)
[23:33] <acovrig> can I have zenity exit when progress=100?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | BrianE
[23:34] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Well I mean will it locate drivers for all found hardware if it's connected to ethernet?
[23:34] <BrianE> sylbot: Have you got them set to 'Extra' in System -> Preferences -> Appearances (Visual Effects) ?
[23:34] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Since Hardware Drivers failed to find anything, the system doesn't currently know what needs to be installed to get things working.
[23:35] <cdcdcdc> Jordan_U: gparted shows sda1 as flagged boot i guess cause I'm booted to it. but all the other partitions including both swap are on sda2 - obviously i don't delete that
[23:35] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: The index failed to load due to lack of internet connection
[23:35] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: I'm on another computer
[23:35] <Purpley> Hey guys why is revovo disabled in btnx from the latest build?
[23:35] <bithunter> sylbot, the compiz fusion icon might be handy to switch compiz on or of
[23:35] <sylbot> whoever asked if they were on extra, thanks, they were on none
[23:36] <sylbot> but still
[23:36] <greezmunkey> unop: yes, very sure. It's a file permission/directory access issue with mysql - I'll figure it out, thanks man! :)
[23:36] <sylbot> i tried to enable it, and it said could not be enabled
[23:36] <Purpley> aesgf
[23:36] <visof> how can allow the terminal on linux to write arabic without revers its words?
[23:36] <BrianE> sylbot: You said you enabled your restricted video card drivers - Have you rebooted since then?
[23:36] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: However my touchpad is working properly now that I manually installed synaptics drivers
[23:36] <IdleOne> !arabic | visof
[23:36] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: I would try installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic, you can do that by having synaptic create a package download script to run on a computer that has a connection, then copy the packages back over and install them.
[23:36] <sylbot> BrianE, yes. They are active
[23:37] <Jordan_U> !offline | soadkombucha
[23:37] <Purpley> Hey guys why is revovo disabled in btnx from the latest build?
[23:37] <BrianE> sylbot: What video card do you have?
[23:37] <BrianE> sylbot: Is it modern enough to support those effects?
[23:37] <jacekowski> hello
[23:37] <visof> IdleOne please go there #ubuntu-arabic ?
[23:37] <IdleOne> Purpley: is that in anyway related to Ubuntu?
[23:37] <acovrig> can I have zenity exit when progress=100?
[23:37] <sylbot> I believe so, I have a GTX 260
[23:37] <drphresh> Is there a service I can enable so I can connect to a telnet server?
[23:37] <sylbot> it packs plenty of power
[23:37] <IdleOne> visof: yes, ask in #ubuntu-arabic they should be able to help
[23:37] <Purpley> IdleOne, btnx is a package in ubuntu and revoco is part of it so yes. Any idea where you would suggest me going?
[23:38] <jacekowski> does anybody know what software is to process ppa builds?
[23:38] <jacekowski> is used*
[23:38] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Which one do I download?
[23:38] <visof> IdleOne i ask you to go there
[23:38] <IdleOne> Purpley: sorry never heard of either that is why I was asking
[23:38] <IdleOne> visof: I don't speak arabix
[23:38] <IdleOne> visof: I don't speak arabic
[23:38] <bithunter> sylbot, what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say?
[23:38] <visof> IdleOne please just go there , then quit
[23:38] <tertl3> arabix, the arabic spin of Linux :)
[23:38] <sylbot> bithunter, what?
[23:38] <Purpley> IdleOne, Oh its ok, I thought it wasnt working until I ran sudo btnx and it said revoco wasnt in this build
[23:39] <IdleOne> visof: why?
[23:39] <OpenBox> Hi.. anone here who is using OpenBox?
[23:39] <sylbot> How do I use that command in terminal, bithunter
[23:39] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Check the package "linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic" in synaptic then select File > Generate Package Download Script
[23:39] <visof> IdleOne you will know when you there
[23:39] <cdcdcdc> ug i'm confused by all the partitions. there is one "unallocated" next to sda1 then two "unallocated" on sda2. both swap are on sda2 and they are different sized - i don't konw which goes with which install. dual booting two versions of ubuntu seems to make a mess.
[23:39] <BrianE> sylbot: Run "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils", then "glxinfo | grep direct"
[23:39] <bithunter> sylbot,  type  glxinfo | grep direct
[23:39] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: I'm not on linux right now either. I can manually download all the packages and install them
[23:39] <BrianE> !terminal | sylbot
[23:39] <IdleOne> visof: I'm not playing any games. If the channel is empty why not just say so
[23:40] <sylbot> err, yeah what do i type ubottu
[23:40] <visof> IdleOne, it isn't now
[23:40] <IdleOne> visof: anyway I do not know the answer to your question
[23:40] <visof> IdleOne, ok
[23:40] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Can you boot into the Ubuntu install to create the download script?
[23:40] <drphresh> How do I turn on telnet?
[23:40] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: No, the ubuntu install is on another PC entirely
[23:41] <cdcdcdc> question: how do i tell which swap partition goes with which of the two installations of ubuntu i made?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: I don't see why that is a problem. Do you have a flash drive you can transfer files with?
[23:41] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Yes.
[23:41] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: I just have to download all the files
[23:42] <acovrig> can I have zenity exit when progress=100?
[23:42] <BrianE> sylbot: When the terminal window is open, just type "sudo apt-get -y install mesa-utils", then enter. When that completes, type "glxinfo | grep direct", and copy / paste what it says here (or pastebin it)
[23:42] <KalEl> how can i remove some of the drives from the default places menu?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Go to Ubuntu machine, create package download script, copy script over to to other machine with flash drive, download packages, copy packages back with flash drive
[23:42] <drphresh> How do enable telnet?
[23:42] <sylbot> it says that the newest mesa utilities is installed
[23:43] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: How do I create a package download script without any internet access?
[23:43] <BrianE> sylbot: Then just run "glxinfo | grep direct", and paste the output
[23:43] <drphresh> Can anybody help me?
[23:43] <bithunter> drphresh, depends :)
[23:43] <Yahweh> drphresh, no
[23:43] <Yahweh> don't enable telnet
[23:44] <sylbot> http://pastebin.com/SJFncd3q
[23:44] <sylbot> glx missing on display
[23:44] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Getting packages from another machine when the one you want to install them to has no internet connection is what the package download script feature is made for.
[23:44] <drphresh> Yahweh: why?
[23:44] <IdleOne> drphresh: use ssh
[23:44] <BrianE> drphresh: Incoming or outgoing?
[23:44] <IdleOne> telnet is insecure
[23:44] <drphresh> BrianE: outgoing
[23:44] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: No I cannot connect ubuntu to the internet, and the package isn't showing up in synaptic
[23:44] <Yahweh> drphresh, it's like using gets(), there's never a good reason for it
[23:45] <BrianE> drphresh: It should already be there, just type 'telnet' into a terminal prompt, or search the Ubuntu Software Center for a graphical client ;)
[23:45] <drphresh> BrianE, Yahweh: ok
[23:45] <BrianE> If, however, you just want to open a raw connection to a port, use "netcat" instead
[23:45] <acovrig> can I have zenity exit when progress=100?
[23:46] <Tarkers1> I just installed 10.04 and I'm getting an error trying to activate my ATI driver, anyone got a moment?
[23:46] <mehr> someone how can help me to install firefox?
[23:46] <cdcdcdc> pardon extreme newb q: if I delete my swap partition, can I just make a new one? how will my system know to use it
[23:46] <BrianE> mehr: Firefox comes installed by default with Ubuntu, check in Applications -> Internet to see if it's already there
[23:46] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: It's in the main repository, so it really should show up in synaptic. I'm not sure why it isn't.
[23:46] <mehr> i know, buy i deleted ... now i can not find it
[23:47] <connermcd> mehr: I recommend chrome
[23:47] <cdcdcdc> mehr: use Applications/Ubuntu software center  --- search for chromium
[23:47] <BrianE> mehr: Open the Ubuntu Software Center (Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center) and search for 'Firefox', then it's just a one-click install
[23:47] <mehr> ok
[23:47] <BrianE> Urgh, don't impose your software preferences on people =-\
[23:47] <mehr> i did that and is not there ...
[23:48] <BrianE> It should be
[23:48] <sylbot> bithunter, http://pastebin.com/SJFncd3q
[23:48] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Neither am I
[23:48] <sylbot> wierd
[23:48] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: If I download all the deb files and install them should I be OK?
[23:48] <BrianE> Try running "sudo apt-get install firefox" in a terminal prompt
[23:48] <BrianE> mehr: ^
[23:48] <slow-motion> n8
[23:48] <acovrig> can I have zenity exit when progress=100?
[23:48] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Any way, since that isn't working. Run "uname -r" to find out what kernel you currently have and download the corrosponding linux-backports-modules-wireless-version-generic package from packages.ubuntu.com
[23:49] <mehr> i do not know how to install it from mozilla web page ...
[23:49] <durt> mehr, if software center does not list it (doesn't for me but I have it installed already) you can open up synaptic package manager to install it.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Yes.
[23:49] <connermcd> mehr: it's easier to do it without the mozilla web page... use command line or synaptic package manager
[23:49] <connermcd> "sudo apt-get install firefox" from command line
[23:49] <astralpop> I just installed 10.04 and Firefox was already on it.
[23:49] <astralpop> Like two weeks ago actually.
[23:49] <connermcd> or System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager and search for firefox
[23:50] <BrianE> merh: If you install it via "sudo apt-get install firefox" or, as connermcd says, via the Synaptic Package Manager, you'll get updates for it via the 'Update Manager'
[23:50] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Will the one from apt.apturl.com work?
[23:50] <sylbot> Here is my full terminal
[23:50] <sylbot> http://pastebin.com/NgrmbYqf
[23:50] <mehr> ok
[23:50] <mehr> i will try that
[23:51] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: Only if it's for the same kernel version as you're running on the machine in question.
[23:51] <KalEl> how can i remove disks from places menu?
[23:51] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: But then I have to download all the .deb files and install them
[23:51] <sylbot> who knows what to do
[23:52] <connermcd> KalEl: open up nautilus and go to Bookmarks then Edit Bookmarks
[23:52] <BrianE> sylbot: Sorry, didn't see a reply to asking it last time: Have you definitely performed a full restart since installing the driver?
[23:52] <bithunter> sylbot, please type glxinfo in terminal and pastebin the full output
[23:52] <sylbot> bithunter, http://pastebin.com/NgrmbYqf
[23:52] <Jordan_U> soadkombucha: You should only need one .deb file, linux-backports-modules-wireless-$(uname -r)-generic you just need to find out the $(uname -r) part
[23:52] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Yeah I got it
[23:52] <xorwhy> Im going through synaptics list of installed stuff, looking for things to remove (safely). Any suggestions?
[23:53] <KalEl> connermcd, i cannot find the disks in bookmarks
[23:53] <deventio7> hey guys my ping goes from 0.2ms to over 9000 ms (yes I know) to google, like fluctuating every other ping, why is that?
[23:53] <BrianE> sylbot: He wants the output of 'glxinfo', not 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[23:53] <bithunter> sylbot, without | grep direct
[23:53] <connermcd> KalEl: oh, I see what you mean
[23:53] <xorwhy> Any ideas on saving some disk space would be appreciated here
[23:53] <ubutom> deventio7, using wireless lan?
[23:53] <deventio7> ubutom: yes
[23:53] <connermcd> KalEl: I've heard of people making mounts hidden using a "." in front of the name
[23:53] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Installing. Then I'll do a reboot and see.
[23:53] <ubutom> deventio7, could be low signal
[23:54] <sylbot> http://pastebin.com/4vq6EnNx
[23:54] <deventio7> ubutom it's right beside the router and my ipod touch seems to work fine
[23:54] <sylbot> bithunter,
[23:54] <KalEl> connermcd, where can i find the files to put the '.'?
[23:54] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Doing a reboot. I want to reboot to ensure that it loads.
[23:54] <sylbot> bithunter, http://pastebin.com/4vq6EnNx, sorry pressed enter last time
[23:54] <deventio7> ubutom, could it be a hardware fault
[23:54] <ubutom> deventio7, could be, or it doesn't play nice with the ipod
[23:55] <ubutom> deventio7, could also be the router
[23:55] <KrisDouglas> Hi everyone
[23:55] <connermcd> KalEl: Type 'gconf-editor' in the command line
[23:55] <connermcd> Then Nautilus->Desktop
[23:55] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: Attempting to connect. what should I do if the connection still fails?
[23:55] <connermcd> KalEl: Nautilus->Desktop->volumes_visible
[23:56] <BrianE> Rather than typing 'gconf-editor' in the command line, you could type hit ALT+F2 then type it there, hit enter to avoid a terminal window being open
[23:57] <connermcd> KalEl: or what BrianE says if you're afraid of the terminal
[23:57] <KalEl> connermcd, sorry man... can't find nautilus in gconf-editor. is there any way to remove permission through fstab or mtab?
[23:57] <sylbot> now what?
[23:57] <BrianE> sylbot: You *have* restarted, yes?
[23:57] <sylbot> yes
[23:58] <sylbot> the drviers are active
[23:58] <KalEl> connermcd, BrianE, thanks but not much afraid of the terminal
[23:58] <sylbot> and i have
[23:58] <BrianE> Also, when selecting the driver from 'Hardware Drivers', did you choose the latest one? The one with the highest version number appended?
[23:58] <BrianE> KalEl: In any case, it saves an extra terminal window being open ;)
[23:58] <KalEl> true... i have one open always :)
[23:58] <connermcd> KalEl: nautilus is under Apps in gconf-editor or yes you can comment devices out in the fstab
[23:59] <cdcdcdc> when I install a new version of ubuntu 'around' an old version, does it put all the old partitions onto  a new partition?
[23:59] <sylbot> Actually, I was forced into safe graphics mode for some reason when I started. But then I typed in the x thing, and I got back to the normal mode or whatever
[23:59] <connermcd> KalEl: you can edit the fstab to mount explicitly when you want
[23:59] <Flomaster> what is a solid easy to use download manager to download megaupload files ?
[23:59] <BrianE> sylbot: Are you currently restricted to a lower resolution?
[23:59] <soadkombucha> Jordan_U: I was doing it as a WEP key... It's probably a WPA key.