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federico_78when you buy music from the store, you can tag the files. that makes the store think your files have dissapeared from the storage00:02
ZykoticK9Running into some difficulty on Maverick, the Devices tab in Ubuntu One Preferences has a greyed out Connect button (U1 folder is empty, sync does NOT appear to be taking place).  Working with Lucid on same system.01:21
fdrakehonk!02:12
fdrakeI'm running Ubuntu 10.04, and have a question about the Ubuntu One control panel.  In the Devices tab, my computer shows up three times, all with the same name.  Is it safe to remove the two that aren't showing as connected?  All three show up in the account information in the web interface, with two having been created on the same day (possibly when I first installed the machine), and the other being from a re-install when 10.02:12
fdrakehonk02:36
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geekilizedcan anyone fetch lyrics for songs purchased from ubuntu one music store in rhythmbpx?05:45
geekilizedi cant fetch lyrics any songs purchased from the music store, but i can fetch lyrics for other songs that i already had that i didnt buy from the ubuntu one music store05:46
geekilizeddoes anyone else have this problem?05:47
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mkarnickianyone saw verterok around recently?09:23
* mkarnicki went breakfast shopping09:25
moteQuestion. I have to computers added til One Account, the files are syncronized. I put a new file in the "Ubuntu One" folder, but it does not get synced. -it stays grey. the Client says that im coneected. how long will it take. How can i see what the client is doing?09:31
moteI really miss that status applet in the panel.09:32
kermiacmote: the u1sdtool command (from a terminal window) will let you see what the client is doing. More info on u1sdtool can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanYepishev/UbuntuOne/ClientControl09:38
moteKermiac, my Australian friend :-)09:42
moteThanks. And also, when i startup the Ubuntu One prefference program, i have to click connect every time. Does the Client disconnect when a close the program, or does it stay connected. Does it startup when loggen on?09:44
kermiacmote: it stays connected even if you close u1 preferences09:54
moteThanks.09:55
duanedesignhey kermiac09:58
kermiachow're you going today duanedesign?09:59
duanedesignjust getting up.09:59
kermiacduanedesign: ok, I'll see you around later after you get some breakfast :)10:00
defcon_i can't add my computer to my account. I tried it with u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -c   but it doesn't help o_O10:39
duanedesigndefcon_: hello11:08
defcon_duanedesign, hi11:09
duanedesignafter running u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login11:09
duanedesigndoes ps aux | grep ubu find anything11:10
duanedesignwell, other than grep ubu11:11
defcon_?11:11
duanedesignif you run the command :   ps aux | grep ubu11:12
duanedesigndoes it show any Ubuntu processes running11:12
defcon_no11:12
duanedesigndefcon_: id firefox your default browser?11:13
defcon_yes11:13
duanedesigndefcon_: have you ever had this computer on a U1 account?11:14
duanedesignwith a previous version of Ubuntu?11:14
defcon_well, i used u1 only with lucid, and yes.. i had this computer on my u1 account but with an other hostname, i changed it for a while11:16
defcon_and from this time i can't add my computer11:16
duanedesigndefcon_: Can you open Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption11:17
duanedesignclick the arrow next to the folder to expand the list11:17
defcon_yes11:17
duanedesignand look for Ubuntu One Token11:17
duanedesignif you find it r-click and delete it11:18
defcon_done11:18
duanedesignthen check http://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines11:18
duanedesignand make sure your old machine does not show up their11:19
defcon_"You haven't added any computers or devices to your Ubuntu One account."11:19
duanedesignthen open Ubuntu One Preferences11:19
duanedesignfrom Me Menu11:19
duanedesignShould open the browser and prompt you to add your computer?11:19
defcon_aaahhh.. yes, now it works11:20
duanedesigndefcon_: great!11:20
defcon_thanks a lot! :) well done11:21
psypher246hi all, howzit going? i got a question about download and upload speed. it's extremely slow, and not being shaped, should get about 512kbps up and 4mbps down11:26
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EmryI am still having a problem where my UbuntuOne folder on this machine is NOT syncing.  :/  It has stayed empty for ages, dispite the fact that this machine stays online most of the time, and I have 94MB of data on the server.16:13
ChipacaEmry: it should be working now. Can I help you debug some?16:17
EmryWhat would you suggest?  The files were added on my other machine, like months ago.  I reboot this machine like once a week at least, so that is not likely the problem, and I update it continually.16:20
duanedesignEmry: can you open a Terminal and run:  u1sdtool -s16:30
duanedesignand pastebin the results at http://paste.ubuntu.com16:31
EmryStill waiting for it to respond.  :)16:32
duanedesignhmm ok. it'll probablly time out16:32
duanedesignEmry: is their anything in this document:  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log16:35
EmryIt is there, but empty.16:38
Emry2010-06-13 00:32:40,501 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon - WARNING - Files synchronization is disabled.   << This is the last several lines of syncdeamon.log16:38
duanedesignEmry: are you running 10.04?16:39
Emryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/448768/   syncdeamon.log16:40
Emryduanedesign, Yes.16:40
duanedesignEmry: In the Ubuntu One Preferences Dialog under the Services tab is 'File Sync' checked16:41
EmryO.o It was... Now its now.  Probably user error.  :) I will tell it to connect again.16:43
duanedesignif you do the command u1sdtool -c, or click Connect in Preferences window, wait about 1-2 minutes then run   u1sdtool -s   again16:45
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EmryIt is now working on metadata16:48
duanedesignok16:48
duanedesignis_connected: True  ?16:49
EmryProcessing queues16:49
duanedesignyou can run the command: u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l16:50
Emry016:50
duanedesignand it will tell you how mant items are waiting16:50
EmryStill processing queues with 0 items waiting.16:51
Emry^^;;16:51
duanedesignwat does  queues:   say? the last line16:52
duanedesignIDLE?16:53
Emrydescription: Processing Queues, but Queues says idle.16:54
duanedesignok16:54
Emryis_connected: true, is_error: false, is_online: true.16:54
duanedesignand you have stuff on your cloud storage that it should be seeing, right16:55
EmryYes.  94mb worth.16:56
EmryThe settings tab says that I have the info on the server, it is just not downloading it. :P16:57
duanedesignthere is a bug where interupteed downoads retire. WE sshould try quitting everything and try again. Can you run:   u1sdtool -d, u1sdtool -q, killall ubuntuone-log16:57
duanedesignoops those arent commas16:57
duanedesignu1sdtool -d; u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login16:58
duanedesignthen    u1sdtool -c16:58
duanedesignto connect16:58
Emryhehe.  I got the idea. :)16:58
duanedesign:)16:59
fdrakeI'm running Ubuntu 10.04, and have a question about the Ubuntu One control panel.  In the Devices tab, my computer shows up three times, all with the same name.  Is it safe to remove the two that aren't showing as connected?  All three show up in the account information in the web interface, with two having been created on the same day (possibly when I first installed the machine), and the other being from a re-install when 10.17:01
fdrakeAny ideas what I should check?  Is it safe to just remove the older machine entries?17:02
duanedesignfdrake: yes you can remove them. If you want to double check...17:04
EmryBasically the same as before.  Is there a conf file somwhere that I can delete and start over on this machine? :P17:04
duanedesignyou can look at your Ubuntu One Token under Applications > Accessories > Password and Encryption Key17:04
duanedesignfdrake: ^^17:04
fdrakeduanedesign: Thanks!17:05
duanedesignEmry: there is a conf file we should look at17:05
duanedesignfdrake:  r-click the token > properties > look for the password. look at the oauth_token number17:06
duanedesignfdrake: that is the one you dont want to delete. YOu can compare the number at http://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines17:08
fdrakeOk; the older ones are indeed the ones I can toss, then.17:08
duanedesignEmry: open /home/duanedesign/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf17:09
fdrakeI guess these are based on information that's generated when I perform a fresh install.17:09
duanedesignyes17:09
fdrakeIs there a way to keep the same machine identity in that case?  Some fine from /etc/ that should be preserved?17:09
duanedesignEmry: make sure none of the settings under [bandwidth_throttling] are set to 017:10
* mkarnicki needs verterok badly17:10
duanedesignfdrake: you mean to sync certain config files to your other computers?17:11
fdrakeNo; to preserve the identity of this machine when I re-install (rather than upgrade/update).17:12
duanedesignfdrake: ohh i see17:12
fdrakeSo that I don't end up with this sort of false "multiple machine" thing.17:12
Emryfilesync_enabled true, on=false for file throttling, and all the numbers are high.17:12
fdrakeSomething similar to the SSH hostkey.17:12
duanedesignfdrake: it shouldn't do that . You would just add your computer by running Ubuntu One Preferences for the first time17:15
* fdrake suspects we're mis-communicating.17:16
duanedesignits not created during install but when you first run Ubuntu One17:16
fdrakeThen the newer machine identity should never have been added.17:16
fdrakeThe machine was re-installed just prior to that, but I kept the same /home/ partition; anything stored with my user account would have been retained.17:17
duanedesignyeah i see17:17
fdrakeIs it based on something stored there combined with some sort of machine key, perhaps?17:17
duanedesignThere is the Ubuntu One Token17:18
duanedesignEmry: can you check ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log and see if anything new has shown up?17:18
EmryStill empty.17:20
Emryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/448782/  < The log file17:21
Chipacaduanedesign: you probably want to look at magicicada17:24
ChipacaEmry: are you confortable with checking code out using bzr and running that? (i.e., are you a developer or tester?)17:24
Chipacabtw: my attention span on this channel is spotty, so if you reply, mention my name at least so I look17:25
* Chipaca goes back to preparing lunch for his kids17:25
duanedesignthanks Chipaca :)17:25
EmryChipaca, I would have to learn how.  :) I figured git out pretty quick. hehe17:26
duanedesignEmry: can you try dropping a small file in your Ubuntu One folder and seeing if it shows up at http://one.ubuntu.com/files17:28
EmryYeah, it went up right away.17:30
duanedesignEmry: magicicada, you can install it by running this to add the PPA.   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chicharreros/ppa17:31
duanedesignthen run: sudo apt-get install magicicada17:31
Emrygot a pgp error.  I may need to install something. ^^17:34
duanedesignok17:37
duanedesignyeah thats fine17:37
duanedesignEmry: it should still install, it will just give you a warning, ignore it17:37
EmryI am trying the add again.17:38
duanedesignis the error you got : gpg: keyserver timed out17:39
duanedesigngpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error17:39
EmryYeah, that seems to be the issue.17:40
duanedesignok. it should install. It'll just warn you its not trusted.17:41
Emrycould not find file.  What is the URI for the repo, I may need to add it manually.17:42
duanedesignhttps://launchpad.net/~chicharreros/+archive/ppa/+files/magicicada_0.1-0ubuntu1~lucid1_all.deb17:43
duanedesignoh, the repo17:44
duanedesigndeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chicharreros/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main17:44
duanedesigndeb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chicharreros/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main17:44
EmryThe deb worked just fine though :P17:46
EmryWhat next?17:46
duanedesignyou can launch it from Applications > Acceessories17:47
EmryLaunched17:47
duanedesignEmry: hit connect17:48
Chipacahm17:49
EmryOk, it is starting to recieve data. :)17:49
Chipacaduanedesign: you're welcome :)17:49
duanedesign:)17:50
Chipacathat is nessita and facundobatista's project17:50
EmryIs magiccicada eventually intended for distribution, or will it always be a PPA? :)17:50
ChipacaI think it's in debian already, heading into universe soon17:50
Chipacaor viceversa :)17:50
Emry:P can Debian use UbuntuOne? ^.^17:51
Chipacait's not "official", in that it's not something canonical is paying us to work on17:51
Chipacayeah, of course17:51
Chipacathere's somebody packaging it for redhat also17:51
EmryCool.17:51
Chipacaor fedora? i lose track17:51
EmryI am guessing that UbuntuOne is probably in Universe on Debian. ^^17:51
Chipacaumm... I think it's not called universe there17:52
duanedesignEmry: what do you get from the command:   u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l17:53
EmryI don't remember.  I haven't used Debian in a long time.  ^^17:53
Emry56 :17:53
Emry:)17:53
ChipacaEmry: and, it's magicicada (not magiccicada), the name of the big cicada, because the sync daemon's name is/was "chicharra" internally17:54
duanedesignstrange. Chipaca why would magicicada be able to got these files to download that previously were not?17:54
Chipacaduanedesign: magicicada does nothing beyond report17:55
Chipacaand, well, connect/disconnect/that stuff17:55
duanedesignChipaca: ok thats what i thought17:55
Chipacanothing that wasn't tehre through dbus17:55
duanedesignits a GUI for chicharra17:55
Chipacayep17:55
nessitaChipaca, duanedesign: for alpha2 magicicada will allow operations over the queues, the folders, the shares, the public files, etc17:56
Chipacaalso, awesome :)17:56
Chipacanessita: hola! I'm here, advocating your thing17:57
nessitafor now is just "view only"17:57
nessitaChipaca: so I read :-)17:57
nessitagreat!!!17:57
Chipacanessita: how goes the packaging?18:01
nessitaChipaca: of magicicada?18:01
nessitaChipaca: statik is doing that follow up, we have a bug... let me see if I can find it18:01
Chipacaah, ok18:03
duanedesignnessita: Chipaca: this is going to be great for users who were wanting more information about 'whats going on'18:04
Chipacayes18:04
Chipacait already is, for that18:04
nessitaChipaca, duanedesign: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/magicicada/0.1.1-0ubuntu118:09
nessita*very nice* kudos for statik18:09
Chipaca\o/ :)18:12
mkarnickiwhat is magicicada? I went to the project page, but there's no description ;)18:15
Chipacanessita: ^18:16
Chipacaa *really* big cicada ;-)18:16
mkarnickiChipaca: clarification please ;P18:17
mkarnickiaha, I see duanedesign's answer18:17
mkarnickivery cool :)18:18
mkarnickithat could be written in the project description ;) "for alpha2 magicicada will allow operations over the queues, the folders, the shares, the public files, etc"18:18
duanedesignmkarnicki: how is AndroidU1 coming along?19:02
mkarnickiduanedesign: hey! see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/androidu119:02
mkarnickiI just chocked on eclipse configuration with u1-java-storageprotocol19:02
mkarnickiin theory, by the end of this week I have planned to have file browsing implemented (not easy, but not impossible)19:03
mkarnicki/s/chocked/choked19:04
mkarnickiduanedesign: that's why I need verterok badly. until he's availible, I'll do my best not to waste time.19:04
duanedesignsounds like you are making good progress, that is great.19:05
mkarnickiduanedesign: I feel 2-3 days off the schedule, but that's acceptable, I'm still on track =)19:06
* mkarnicki is away browsing verterok logs19:10
* mkarnicki fixed the project setup \o/ continues to implement cloud browsing19:43
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kklimondagreat, so my public link to published file returns "Service Temporarily Unavailable"20:19
kklimondahonk20:19
kklimondathe link is http://ubuntuone.com/p/6sr/20:19
kklimondathis is seriously getting embarassing when I paste it to someone and he can't use it :/20:20
BlackZkklimonda: I think it's a general problem, for now20:36
kklimondaBlackZ: every time I actually have to use u1 for something it just doesn't work ;)20:37
ZykoticK9honk Having trouble with File Sync with one Lucid client - it's a folder called Photos and it was renamed Photos.u1conflict and resyncing doesn't seem to add a Photos folder or updated the renamed folder's contents.20:38
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mkarnickikklimonda: I also hope U1 will improve over time (the sooner the better), but as a developer I can tell you that one evening the new server software (or the layer, whatever) made what took 4 minutes before, take 4 seconds. :) So I do see improvements :)21:02
kklimondamkarnicki: those are not really improvements.. it's just getting back to old, slugish normal ;)21:03
mkarnickikklimonda: heheheh21:03
mkarnickikklimonda: perhaps. with thousands of users more. maintaining a live system is a challenge you can imagine.21:03
mkarnicki:)21:04
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kklimondamkarnicki: meh.. I'm not really going to go this route, lets just say that Canonical should do better if they expect to be treated like a responsible company..21:15
mkarnickikklimonda: agreed. I think releasing U1 later would benefit all. give developers more time, and less stres on both sides.21:21
mkarnickikklimonda: but then, I wouldn't take part in GSoC ;P21:21
mkarnickikklimonda: premier of 10.04 just hit them too hard. but as they say, 'just' makes a difference21:22
kklimondanot the first time afair21:24
suprengrEvolution contacts not syncing since lucid installed [on both desktop & netbook]- n.b. evolution settings 'restored' from karmic evolution 'save settings' - any connection? Tried several options from research including evolution-couchdb remove/re-install... all tna... any ideas?21:24
kklimondasuprengr: contact syncing is disabled21:24
ZykoticK9suprengr, contacts aren't currently working https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status21:25
suprengrkklimonda: thanks forinfo... that solves that one!!21:25
suprengrZykoticK9: thanks as well.21:26
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