[00:02] <federico_78> when you buy music from the store, you can tag the files. that makes the store think your files have dissapeared from the storage
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> Running into some difficulty on Maverick, the Devices tab in Ubuntu One Preferences has a greyed out Connect button (U1 folder is empty, sync does NOT appear to be taking place).  Working with Lucid on same system.
[02:12] <fdrake> honk!
[02:12] <fdrake> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04, and have a question about the Ubuntu One control panel.  In the Devices tab, my computer shows up three times, all with the same name.  Is it safe to remove the two that aren't showing as connected?  All three show up in the account information in the web interface, with two having been created on the same day (possibly when I first installed the machine), and the other being from a re-install when 10.
[02:36] <fdrake> honk
[05:45] <geekilized> can anyone fetch lyrics for songs purchased from ubuntu one music store in rhythmbpx?
[05:46] <geekilized> i cant fetch lyrics any songs purchased from the music store, but i can fetch lyrics for other songs that i already had that i didnt buy from the ubuntu one music store
[05:47] <geekilized> does anyone else have this problem?
[09:23] <mkarnicki> anyone saw verterok around recently?
[09:25]  * mkarnicki went breakfast shopping
[09:31] <mote> Question. I have to computers added til One Account, the files are syncronized. I put a new file in the "Ubuntu One" folder, but it does not get synced. -it stays grey. the Client says that im coneected. how long will it take. How can i see what the client is doing?
[09:32] <mote> I really miss that status applet in the panel.
[09:38] <kermiac> mote: the u1sdtool command (from a terminal window) will let you see what the client is doing. More info on u1sdtool can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanYepishev/UbuntuOne/ClientControl
[09:42] <mote> Kermiac, my Australian friend :-)
[09:44] <mote> Thanks. And also, when i startup the Ubuntu One prefference program, i have to click connect every time. Does the Client disconnect when a close the program, or does it stay connected. Does it startup when loggen on?
[09:54] <kermiac> mote: it stays connected even if you close u1 preferences
[09:55] <mote> Thanks.
[09:58] <duanedesign> hey kermiac
[09:59] <kermiac> how're you going today duanedesign?
[09:59] <duanedesign> just getting up.
[10:00] <kermiac> duanedesign: ok, I'll see you around later after you get some breakfast :)
[10:39] <defcon_> i can't add my computer to my account. I tried it with u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -c   but it doesn't help o_O
[11:08] <duanedesign> defcon_: hello
[11:09] <defcon_> duanedesign, hi
[11:09] <duanedesign> after running u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login
[11:10] <duanedesign> does ps aux | grep ubu find anything
[11:11] <duanedesign> well, other than grep ubu
[11:11] <defcon_> ?
[11:12] <duanedesign> if you run the command :   ps aux | grep ubu
[11:12] <duanedesign> does it show any Ubuntu processes running
[11:12] <defcon_> no
[11:13] <duanedesign> defcon_: id firefox your default browser?
[11:13] <defcon_> yes
[11:14] <duanedesign> defcon_: have you ever had this computer on a U1 account?
[11:14] <duanedesign> with a previous version of Ubuntu?
[11:16] <defcon_> well, i used u1 only with lucid, and yes.. i had this computer on my u1 account but with an other hostname, i changed it for a while
[11:16] <defcon_> and from this time i can't add my computer
[11:17] <duanedesign> defcon_: Can you open Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption
[11:17] <duanedesign> click the arrow next to the folder to expand the list
[11:17] <defcon_> yes
[11:17] <duanedesign> and look for Ubuntu One Token
[11:18] <duanedesign> if you find it r-click and delete it
[11:18] <defcon_> done
[11:18] <duanedesign> then check http://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines
[11:19] <duanedesign> and make sure your old machine does not show up their
[11:19] <defcon_> "You haven't added any computers or devices to your Ubuntu One account."
[11:19] <duanedesign> then open Ubuntu One Preferences
[11:19] <duanedesign> from Me Menu
[11:19] <duanedesign> Should open the browser and prompt you to add your computer?
[11:20] <defcon_> aaahhh.. yes, now it works
[11:20] <duanedesign> defcon_: great!
[11:21] <defcon_> thanks a lot! :) well done
[11:26] <psypher246> hi all, howzit going? i got a question about download and upload speed. it's extremely slow, and not being shaped, should get about 512kbps up and 4mbps down
[16:13] <Emry> I am still having a problem where my UbuntuOne folder on this machine is NOT syncing.  :/  It has stayed empty for ages, dispite the fact that this machine stays online most of the time, and I have 94MB of data on the server.
[16:17] <Chipaca> Emry: it should be working now. Can I help you debug some?
[16:20] <Emry> What would you suggest?  The files were added on my other machine, like months ago.  I reboot this machine like once a week at least, so that is not likely the problem, and I update it continually.
[16:30] <duanedesign> Emry: can you open a Terminal and run:  u1sdtool -s
[16:31] <duanedesign> and pastebin the results at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:32] <Emry> Still waiting for it to respond.  :)
[16:32] <duanedesign> hmm ok. it'll probablly time out
[16:35] <duanedesign> Emry: is their anything in this document:  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[16:38] <Emry> It is there, but empty.
[16:38] <Emry> 2010-06-13 00:32:40,501 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon - WARNING - Files synchronization is disabled.   << This is the last several lines of syncdeamon.log
[16:39] <duanedesign> Emry: are you running 10.04?
[16:40] <Emry> http://paste.ubuntu.com/448768/   syncdeamon.log
[16:40] <Emry> duanedesign, Yes.
[16:41] <duanedesign> Emry: In the Ubuntu One Preferences Dialog under the Services tab is 'File Sync' checked
[16:43] <Emry> O.o It was... Now its now.  Probably user error.  :) I will tell it to connect again.
[16:45] <duanedesign> if you do the command u1sdtool -c, or click Connect in Preferences window, wait about 1-2 minutes then run   u1sdtool -s   again
[16:48] <Emry> It is now working on metadata
[16:48] <duanedesign> ok
[16:49] <duanedesign> is_connected: True  ?
[16:49] <Emry> Processing queues
[16:50] <duanedesign> you can run the command: u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[16:50] <Emry> 0
[16:50] <duanedesign> and it will tell you how mant items are waiting
[16:51] <Emry> Still processing queues with 0 items waiting.
[16:51] <Emry> ^^;;
[16:52] <duanedesign> wat does  queues:   say? the last line
[16:53] <duanedesign> IDLE?
[16:54] <Emry> description: Processing Queues, but Queues says idle.
[16:54] <duanedesign> ok
[16:54] <Emry> is_connected: true, is_error: false, is_online: true.
[16:55] <duanedesign> and you have stuff on your cloud storage that it should be seeing, right
[16:56] <Emry> Yes.  94mb worth.
[16:57] <Emry> The settings tab says that I have the info on the server, it is just not downloading it. :P
[16:57] <duanedesign> there is a bug where interupteed downoads retire. WE sshould try quitting everything and try again. Can you run:   u1sdtool -d, u1sdtool -q, killall ubuntuone-log
[16:57] <duanedesign> oops those arent commas
[16:58] <duanedesign> u1sdtool -d; u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login
[16:58] <duanedesign> then    u1sdtool -c
[16:58] <duanedesign> to connect
[16:58] <Emry> hehe.  I got the idea. :)
[16:59] <duanedesign> :)
[17:01] <fdrake> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04, and have a question about the Ubuntu One control panel.  In the Devices tab, my computer shows up three times, all with the same name.  Is it safe to remove the two that aren't showing as connected?  All three show up in the account information in the web interface, with two having been created on the same day (possibly when I first installed the machine), and the other being from a re-install when 10.
[17:02] <fdrake> Any ideas what I should check?  Is it safe to just remove the older machine entries?
[17:04] <duanedesign> fdrake: yes you can remove them. If you want to double check...
[17:04] <Emry> Basically the same as before.  Is there a conf file somwhere that I can delete and start over on this machine? :P
[17:04] <duanedesign> you can look at your Ubuntu One Token under Applications > Accessories > Password and Encryption Key
[17:04] <duanedesign> fdrake: ^^
[17:05] <fdrake> duanedesign: Thanks!
[17:05] <duanedesign> Emry: there is a conf file we should look at
[17:06] <duanedesign> fdrake:  r-click the token > properties > look for the password. look at the oauth_token number
[17:08] <duanedesign> fdrake: that is the one you dont want to delete. YOu can compare the number at http://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines
[17:08] <fdrake> Ok; the older ones are indeed the ones I can toss, then.
[17:09] <duanedesign> Emry: open /home/duanedesign/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf
[17:09] <fdrake> I guess these are based on information that's generated when I perform a fresh install.
[17:09] <duanedesign> yes
[17:09] <fdrake> Is there a way to keep the same machine identity in that case?  Some fine from /etc/ that should be preserved?
[17:10] <duanedesign> Emry: make sure none of the settings under [bandwidth_throttling] are set to 0
[17:10]  * mkarnicki needs verterok badly
[17:11] <duanedesign> fdrake: you mean to sync certain config files to your other computers?
[17:12] <fdrake> No; to preserve the identity of this machine when I re-install (rather than upgrade/update).
[17:12] <duanedesign> fdrake: ohh i see
[17:12] <fdrake> So that I don't end up with this sort of false "multiple machine" thing.
[17:12] <Emry> filesync_enabled true, on=false for file throttling, and all the numbers are high.
[17:12] <fdrake> Something similar to the SSH hostkey.
[17:15] <duanedesign> fdrake: it shouldn't do that . You would just add your computer by running Ubuntu One Preferences for the first time
[17:16]  * fdrake suspects we're mis-communicating.
[17:16] <duanedesign> its not created during install but when you first run Ubuntu One
[17:16] <fdrake> Then the newer machine identity should never have been added.
[17:17] <fdrake> The machine was re-installed just prior to that, but I kept the same /home/ partition; anything stored with my user account would have been retained.
[17:17] <duanedesign> yeah i see
[17:17] <fdrake> Is it based on something stored there combined with some sort of machine key, perhaps?
[17:18] <duanedesign> There is the Ubuntu One Token
[17:18] <duanedesign> Emry: can you check ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log and see if anything new has shown up?
[17:20] <Emry> Still empty.
[17:21] <Emry> http://paste.ubuntu.com/448782/  < The log file
[17:24] <Chipaca> duanedesign: you probably want to look at magicicada
[17:24] <Chipaca> Emry: are you confortable with checking code out using bzr and running that? (i.e., are you a developer or tester?)
[17:25] <Chipaca> btw: my attention span on this channel is spotty, so if you reply, mention my name at least so I look
[17:25]  * Chipaca goes back to preparing lunch for his kids
[17:25] <duanedesign> thanks Chipaca :)
[17:26] <Emry> Chipaca, I would have to learn how.  :) I figured git out pretty quick. hehe
[17:28] <duanedesign> Emry: can you try dropping a small file in your Ubuntu One folder and seeing if it shows up at http://one.ubuntu.com/files
[17:30] <Emry> Yeah, it went up right away.
[17:31] <duanedesign> Emry: magicicada, you can install it by running this to add the PPA.   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chicharreros/ppa
[17:31] <duanedesign> then run: sudo apt-get install magicicada
[17:34] <Emry> got a pgp error.  I may need to install something. ^^
[17:37] <duanedesign> ok
[17:37] <duanedesign> yeah thats fine
[17:37] <duanedesign> Emry: it should still install, it will just give you a warning, ignore it
[17:38] <Emry> I am trying the add again.
[17:39] <duanedesign> is the error you got : gpg: keyserver timed out
[17:39] <duanedesign> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[17:40] <Emry> Yeah, that seems to be the issue.
[17:41] <duanedesign> ok. it should install. It'll just warn you its not trusted.
[17:42] <Emry> could not find file.  What is the URI for the repo, I may need to add it manually.
[17:43] <duanedesign> https://launchpad.net/~chicharreros/+archive/ppa/+files/magicicada_0.1-0ubuntu1~lucid1_all.deb
[17:44] <duanedesign> oh, the repo
[17:44] <duanedesign> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chicharreros/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[17:44] <duanedesign> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chicharreros/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[17:46] <Emry> The deb worked just fine though :P
[17:46] <Emry> What next?
[17:47] <duanedesign> you can launch it from Applications > Acceessories
[17:47] <Emry> Launched
[17:48] <duanedesign> Emry: hit connect
[17:49] <Chipaca> hm
[17:49] <Emry> Ok, it is starting to recieve data. :)
[17:49] <Chipaca> duanedesign: you're welcome :)
[17:50] <duanedesign> :)
[17:50] <Chipaca> that is nessita and facundobatista's project
[17:50] <Emry> Is magiccicada eventually intended for distribution, or will it always be a PPA? :)
[17:50] <Chipaca> I think it's in debian already, heading into universe soon
[17:50] <Chipaca> or viceversa :)
[17:51] <Emry> :P can Debian use UbuntuOne? ^.^
[17:51] <Chipaca> it's not "official", in that it's not something canonical is paying us to work on
[17:51] <Chipaca> yeah, of course
[17:51] <Chipaca> there's somebody packaging it for redhat also
[17:51] <Emry> Cool.
[17:51] <Chipaca> or fedora? i lose track
[17:51] <Emry> I am guessing that UbuntuOne is probably in Universe on Debian. ^^
[17:52] <Chipaca> umm... I think it's not called universe there
[17:53] <duanedesign> Emry: what do you get from the command:   u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[17:53] <Emry> I don't remember.  I haven't used Debian in a long time.  ^^
[17:53] <Emry> 56 :
[17:53] <Emry> :)
[17:54] <Chipaca> Emry: and, it's magicicada (not magiccicada), the name of the big cicada, because the sync daemon's name is/was "chicharra" internally
[17:54] <duanedesign> strange. Chipaca why would magicicada be able to got these files to download that previously were not?
[17:55] <Chipaca> duanedesign: magicicada does nothing beyond report
[17:55] <Chipaca> and, well, connect/disconnect/that stuff
[17:55] <duanedesign> Chipaca: ok thats what i thought
[17:55] <Chipaca> nothing that wasn't tehre through dbus
[17:55] <duanedesign> its a GUI for chicharra
[17:55] <Chipaca> yep
[17:56] <nessita> Chipaca, duanedesign: for alpha2 magicicada will allow operations over the queues, the folders, the shares, the public files, etc
[17:56] <Chipaca> also, awesome :)
[17:57] <Chipaca> nessita: hola! I'm here, advocating your thing
[17:57] <nessita> for now is just "view only"
[17:57] <nessita> Chipaca: so I read :-)
[17:57] <nessita> great!!!
[18:01] <Chipaca> nessita: how goes the packaging?
[18:01] <nessita> Chipaca: of magicicada?
[18:01] <nessita> Chipaca: statik is doing that follow up, we have a bug... let me see if I can find it
[18:03] <Chipaca> ah, ok
[18:04] <duanedesign> nessita: Chipaca: this is going to be great for users who were wanting more information about 'whats going on'
[18:04] <Chipaca> yes
[18:04] <Chipaca> it already is, for that
[18:09] <nessita> Chipaca, duanedesign: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/magicicada/0.1.1-0ubuntu1
[18:09] <nessita> *very nice* kudos for statik
[18:12] <Chipaca> \o/ :)
[18:15] <mkarnicki> what is magicicada? I went to the project page, but there's no description ;)
[18:16] <Chipaca> nessita: ^
[18:16] <Chipaca> a *really* big cicada ;-)
[18:17] <mkarnicki> Chipaca: clarification please ;P
[18:17] <mkarnicki> aha, I see duanedesign's answer
[18:18] <mkarnicki> very cool :)
[18:18] <mkarnicki> that could be written in the project description ;) "for alpha2 magicicada will allow operations over the queues, the folders, the shares, the public files, etc"
[19:02] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: how is AndroidU1 coming along?
[19:02] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: hey! see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/androidu1
[19:02] <mkarnicki> I just chocked on eclipse configuration with u1-java-storageprotocol
[19:03] <mkarnicki> in theory, by the end of this week I have planned to have file browsing implemented (not easy, but not impossible)
[19:04] <mkarnicki> /s/chocked/choked
[19:04] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: that's why I need verterok badly. until he's availible, I'll do my best not to waste time.
[19:05] <duanedesign> sounds like you are making good progress, that is great.
[19:06] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I feel 2-3 days off the schedule, but that's acceptable, I'm still on track =)
[19:10]  * mkarnicki is away browsing verterok logs
[19:43]  * mkarnicki fixed the project setup \o/ continues to implement cloud browsing
[20:19] <kklimonda> great, so my public link to published file returns "Service Temporarily Unavailable"
[20:19] <kklimonda> honk
[20:19] <kklimonda> the link is http://ubuntuone.com/p/6sr/
[20:20] <kklimonda> this is seriously getting embarassing when I paste it to someone and he can't use it :/
[20:36] <BlackZ> kklimonda: I think it's a general problem, for now
[20:37] <kklimonda> BlackZ: every time I actually have to use u1 for something it just doesn't work ;)
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> honk Having trouble with File Sync with one Lucid client - it's a folder called Photos and it was renamed Photos.u1conflict and resyncing doesn't seem to add a Photos folder or updated the renamed folder's contents.
[21:02] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: I also hope U1 will improve over time (the sooner the better), but as a developer I can tell you that one evening the new server software (or the layer, whatever) made what took 4 minutes before, take 4 seconds. :) So I do see improvements :)
[21:03] <kklimonda> mkarnicki: those are not really improvements.. it's just getting back to old, slugish normal ;)
[21:03] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: heheheh
[21:03] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: perhaps. with thousands of users more. maintaining a live system is a challenge you can imagine.
[21:04] <mkarnicki> :)
[21:15] <kklimonda> mkarnicki: meh.. I'm not really going to go this route, lets just say that Canonical should do better if they expect to be treated like a responsible company..
[21:21] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: agreed. I think releasing U1 later would benefit all. give developers more time, and less stres on both sides.
[21:21] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: but then, I wouldn't take part in GSoC ;P
[21:22] <mkarnicki> kklimonda: premier of 10.04 just hit them too hard. but as they say, 'just' makes a difference
[21:24] <kklimonda> not the first time afair
[21:24] <suprengr> Evolution contacts not syncing since lucid installed [on both desktop & netbook]- n.b. evolution settings 'restored' from karmic evolution 'save settings' - any connection? Tried several options from research including evolution-couchdb remove/re-install... all tna... any ideas?
[21:24] <kklimonda> suprengr: contact syncing is disabled
[21:25] <ZykoticK9> suprengr, contacts aren't currently working https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[21:25] <suprengr> kklimonda: thanks forinfo... that solves that one!!
[21:26] <suprengr> ZykoticK9: thanks as well.