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jeff__can someone please help me to get my bluetooth mouse working?00:06
jeff__it worked on Kubuntu and Ubuntu, but Xubuntu doesn't seem to have a bluetooth managing app. i installed a package called 'bluetooth support' but it still can't detect the mouse00:07
knomejeff__, try running the bluetooth applet00:08
jeff__hey i just downloaded some more stuff and it appears in the menu...00:09
jeff__ok the manager app makes it work... hopefully on auto now. what about wireless? i have this atheros pci card in my laptop, but there's no hardware driver on the list. there was one on jaunty, but it's disappeared since then. i'm on lucid now.00:16
jeff__'hostapd' apparently had madwifi drivers.... testing.....00:18
knome"automatically" supported cards list has been growing since jaunty, so it might work even without a "special" driver00:18
jeff__you're right. i'm going to mess around and hopefully it'll work - it's probably easier than i think.00:19
jeff__i'll be on the mailing list :) ....... bye00:19
knomegood luck00:20
terriblehey00:21
Aquinabye00:51
arqecoGood night01:35
likemindeadAdios.01:37
arqecoI've tried Xubuntu 10.04 on my Mac G4 using Virtual PC 7.0.301:39
arqecoOnly the mouse is not working. And when I try to go to the command line using Ctrl+Alt+F1, I get the message "login timed out after 60 seconds"01:40
arqecoWhat can I do?01:41
arqecoI was trying use the command line to edit xorg.conf01:41
likemindeadIs that PPC?01:43
arqecoYes01:43
arqecoWell, my Mac is PPC, Xubuntu not, VPC is an Intel emulator01:44
arqecoI can't use the system since it did not detected my mouse (PS/2)01:52
arqecoAnd I can't go to terminal using Ctrl+Alt+F101:52
arqecoThe command line black screen opens but only shows a lot of "login timed out after 60 seconds" messages01:53
likemindeadBummer. :-\01:53
arqecoIs there any something I can write on "Boot:" to enable PS/2 mouse?02:06
arqecoI am leaving now02:17
arqecoAdios02:17
shingoif my computer lags running fresh install of xubuntu, I probably need a new computer huh? lol. At least I was able to type this.05:24
IntyalleHey, I'm having problems. I'm trying to make a new folder on my external hard drive so I can backup and wipe, but every time I try to make a new folder, I get an error saying the folder couldn't be made because it didn't exist 0_o09:35
IntyalleWhich seems just a bit... counter-intuitive.09:35
IntyalleAnyone around who can help?09:36
Intyalle'lo?09:47
IntyalleHey, issa pleia209:48
* Intyalle pokes09:48
nikolamI would like to update to Lucid, using mounted .iso DVD of Lucid in /media/vcd12:00
nikolamI would like to add it as a source since i dont want it to download same things again12:04
bazhangyou need the alternate for that12:05
nikolami am iterested how to add .iso to sources.list if it is mounted on /media/vcd already of eather unpacked from .iso or whatever12:08
nikolaminstead of burning it etc12:08
nikolamso only alternat could be added as source to sources.list?12:08
bazhangdo you have grub2?12:10
nikolamI am on Hardy LTS12:11
nikolamI just get in shell to /media/vcd12:11
bazhangah okay, then that won't work.12:11
nikolamand started sudo sh cdromupgrade12:11
nikolamand it popped up to upgrade.12:11
nikolami will do that12:11
bazhangyou need the alternate cd to upgrade12:11
nikolambazhang, but why if i have Ubuntu DVD already and network available12:12
nikolamI suppose it will get xubuntu bits from network and thats it12:12
bazhangnikolam, why not just upgrade via the net12:12
bazhangunless you wish to do a fresh install with that DVD12:13
bazhangnikolam, do you have a separate /home ?12:13
nikolambazhang, well, i already downloaded .iso dvd and also it does chek net update while upgrading12:13
nikolamit is asking me to do so while update, so it will12:13
nikolamno, /home on same partition in software raid12:13
nikolamI did backup of my home12:14
nikolami suppose it will stay on ext312:14
bazhangokay, good you have backups12:14
nikolamand not touching data12:14
bazhangyour method won't work though12:14
nikolamHeh, it gives me info that fglrx driver for my integrated AMD graphics card is not available anymore12:15
nikolambazhang, Why it wont work?12:15
nikolamIt is like you insert Uduntu DVD with new LTS release in Xubuntu older LTS machine12:16
nikolamdifference between xubuntu and ubuntu are xubuntu packages12:16
nikolamif it dont i will reinstall new LTS12:16
nikolambut i dont see why it wont12:16
bazhangyou said you were mounting the iso? to use as a source?12:17
nikolamyes12:17
bazhangnot even burned to DVD?12:17
nikolamand after mounting, I just went there12:17
nikolamand started cdromupdate script12:17
nikolamand thats it12:17
bazhangnever heard of that working.12:17
bazhangalways need the alternate.12:18
bazhang!upgrade12:18
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade12:18
nikolamwell, if guy pops in dvd in machine, that is like same thing12:18
bazhangcheck that ^^12:18
nikolamok.12:18
nikolamjust started doing upgrade ;)12:18
bazhanggood luck.12:18
nikolamSo I think this is like network update using also that mounted iso to compare , and that is what I wanted12:20
nikolamhe asked me to remove skype before update12:22
bazhangthird party repos? that's normal12:23
nikolamI removed repos before12:23
nikolamHe asked me to remove the other skype package12:23
nikolamgetdeb people also say it is better to remove their packages befor update, too12:24
nikolamUhh, it shows that support for SO many applications ended, by canonical. Well, no sweat ;)12:25
nikolamIt is saying it will download 2Gig from network12:28
bazhangsounds right12:29
nikolamSo thats bad. it seems like he does not use mounted DVD..12:29
bazhangcorrect12:29
nikolamwell I dont want that.12:29
nikolami think i will burn it on DVD and pop it in12:29
bazhangthen get the alternate CD12:29
nikolamsince i dont know that sources.list line to add mounted iso12:29
bazhangor just fresh install and move your home back12:29
bazhangdo it beforehand even12:30
bazhang!home12:30
ubottuYour home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome12:30
nikolamAhaa. i will do the trick NOT to use updates from internet while updating form old Lts to new12:44
nikolamThat way he must use locally stored packages12:45
nikolamand then will regularly update needed updates12:45
nikolamnice.12:45
nikolamthen again. I am burning disc, so will see.12:45
judgen_How do i search in thunar-14:29
judgen_or alternatively do an unp recursevily on all .rar files in a folder.14:29
judgen_also, how do i disable all screensavers.14:30
BlueEaglejudgen_: The first an last question is answered when pasting them verbatim to google.14:45
judgen_BlueEagle, not helpful...14:52
judgen_i dont have a web browser compiled yet.14:53
judgen_ok now i have elinks215:00
judgen_ok screensavers fixed.15:02
judgen_how do i do the search or unp recursevily15:02
slow-motionhi15:36
lightahi, does thunar support smb ?16:55
residentgreysmb = samba?17:00
lightayes17:00
lightawell windows smb not really samba but..17:00
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Guest19700hi all, just installed xubuntu 8.04, and having problems with resolution. I only have 800x600 and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does work17:18
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gausiehi all. i'm experiencing the problem described in this video clip. can anyone help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6xZqakN-M17:42
gothenburgwin 1818:08
drizzt_residentgrey, SMB is what Samba tries but constantly fails to be18:22
residentgreyahh18:24
residentgreythen again I am only familiar with samba in name not what it does, still a n00b here18:24
TheSheepdrizzt_: smb is the name of the "protocol" (it's not a real protocol, because it's not documented), samba is a suite of tools that implements it, and a couple of other things18:36
drizzt_TheSheep, what do you mean, not documented?18:36
residentgreybbl18:36
TheSheepdrizzt_: oh, I'm sure they have documentation internally, but it's not published, the documentation that is published is inaccurate and outdated18:37
drizzt_SMB protocol specification was released March 2007 and the last update (in my version) is October 2009. SMB2 specification was released MArch 2007. Stop spreading disinformation18:41
TheSheepdrizzt_: the problems is that real windows machines don't really follow that specification18:45
TheSheepdrizzt_: that's what I call inacurrate18:46
TheSheepthe most accurate spec would be of course released source code, but that is not going to happen, obviously18:47
TheSheepuntil then we have to rely on reverse-engineered tools18:47
TheSheepdrizzt_: of course, my information may be inaccurate, I don't really follow or care about smb18:48
jungliy018:54
ShyOk. so I installed xubuntu onto a flash drive, booted from it, and it asks me to login. I am able to type my user name, but when it asks for mypassword it wont let me type anything..19:16
TheSheepit just doesn't appera19:17
TheSheepappear19:17
TheSheepbut it works19:17
Shyis it casesensitive and such?19:18
TheSheepyes19:31
gothenburgnej19:53
nicklas_yo20:25
nicklas_nobody here?20:53
charlie-tcaActually, many are here.20:54
charlie-tca!nobody20:54
charlie-tca!anyone20:54
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?20:54
nicklas_i dont have any question :-P20:54
Sysithis isn't offtopic channel either20:56
nicklas_yeah, i know that, sorry20:56
eikenberryWhat's the default email program in xubuntu?21:02
charlie-tcaMozilla Thunderbird21:03
eikenberrythanks21:03
charlie-tcano problem21:03
AquinaThere are dozen if not hundereds of files in .config and other directories in ~ containing absolute paths in configuration files like "/home/username/foo". I replaced lots of paths with $HOME. I#ve got the feeling though it doesn't work correctly. Any ideas, comments or suggestions?22:04
TheSheepAquina: it only works in bash scritps22:08
TheSheepAquina: different config file formats use different syntax22:08
TheSheepAquina: some will allow you to use ~ for home22:08
TheSheepAquina: some will only accept absolute pths22:09
TheSheepAquina: it all depends on the creator of the application22:09
TheSheepAquina: or the libraries he uses22:09
xubuntu665PENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11122:20
xubuntu354wtf?22:25
IntyalleAnyone here now?22:56
* Intyalle sighs and settles in for another long wait and tries to not let her external hard drive issues drive her mad22:58
schlaftierIntyalle: If you want to speed things up, ask your question and don't wait for signs of life23:06
IntyalleI would note I did that last night23:06
IntyalleWithout success.23:06
IntyalleLast night I was having issues creating a new folder on my external hard drive - I kept getting an error saying it couldn't create the folder because the file/folder didn't exist23:07
IntyalleNow it's gone back to saying it's mounted as read/write but actually being read only, and any amount of chmod or similar have no actual effect even when they say they do. There was a command I found to fix that last time, but I can't find it again now because I don't remember what I typed in as the search23:09
Sysiis it ntfs?23:11
Sysi!ntfs-3g23:12
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions23:12
IntyalleIt says fuseblk, but according to a quick search that means it is ntfs. Something about a workaround23:12
Sysitry to install that ntfs-3g23:13
IntyalleI did, ran it, selected write support for both internal and external... and the external hard drive is still acting like it's read only.23:15
Sysidid you try to mount it again?23:16
IntyalleI unplugged it so I could try to mount it again and now when I plug it in it just doesn't show23:19
Sysii wonder if it's HAL issue then23:20
IntyalleAnd if it is, how would I go about fixing it?23:20
Sysiinstall hal23:21
IntyalleThe external HDD *used* to work just fine... no clue why it isn't now.23:21
Sysiand reboot23:21
IntyalleSays I already have the newest version23:21
Sysiso that isn't issue23:22
J100I have been trying to get xubuntu 10.04 onto a hp pavilion 8575c23:26
J100and it won't install but xubuntu 8.0423:27
Intyallebrb, gonna try a restart to see if it'll pick up the hard drive again.23:27
J100will do just fine23:27
Sysiwhere installation stops?23:27
J100my install fails after it completes and restarts23:28
J100grub doesn't even come up23:29
Sysidoes it give error?23:29
J100no just a black screen then xubuntu trys to start and freezes23:29
J100so I have been trying f6 options for boot and23:30
Sysigrub menu don't come up by fedault in 10.0423:30
J100using all of them except of the free software only gets the live cd to boot23:31
J100o23:31
J100that helps23:31
Sysiwhat graphics card?23:31
J100in 8.04 you can hit escape and get it23:31
J100ati23:32
J10064mb23:32
J100just a sec will boot 8.04 and run lspci23:32
IntyalleOkay, it's showing up again at least. Any suggestions before I mount it?23:33
J100radeon rv100 (radeon 7000/ve)23:35
J100thats the out put of lspci23:35
J1008.04 gives a warning at startup about no bois year and that apic=force is required23:36
Intyalle... I'll take that as a no.23:38
J100sorry it was acpi=force23:41
J100could i install 8.04 and 10.04 side by side?23:43
IntyalleJ100: Assuming you can actually install them both I'd say probably in the same way you'd install Windows and Linux side by side23:44
J100thats what I was thinking I havn't done a linux side by side yet23:45
slow-motionn823:48
IntyalleI wasn't under the impression that it mattered what two operating systems were involved in the dual booting. Though I do wonder why you'd want an earlier version of the same thing you'll be installing - after all, this isn't Windows where new programs only run on the new systems but the older systems are better.23:48
J100no thats true23:49
J100Should state the reason23:49
J100I am so tired of having to reinstall after 10.04 fails23:50
IntyalleAh, I see. Fair enough then I suppose.23:50
J100its is a boot option I am sure of that now, but which one ( the install takes forever on this old hardware)23:50
IntyalleI'll be upgrading to 10.04 after the wipe... Assuming, of course, that I can get my external hard drive working so that I can backup the files I need to keep so that I *can* wipe.23:51
lightaoh hi, I having some mount error after updating to 10.04 (before entering session) how does I take this off ?23:52
J100just a question23:52
J100about the external hd23:52
IntyalleJ100: Ask away23:53
lightanone got this error too ? It only show me this but me /etc/fstab mount working well so..23:53
J100has it been improperly ejected from the system you are trying to backup (if it has you will be able to see it and look at files possiblely but you will not be able to write to the drive)23:54
IntyalleI don't know about improperly ejected, but yes it'd acting as read-only despite saying it's mounted as read/write23:55
Intyalle*it's23:55
IntyalleAgain.23:55
J100it was most likely unplugged without being ejected by the os (this causes the no write issue in my experience)23:56
J100there is a trick to restoring a file on the drive so that the os will write to it again (if I remember correctly)23:56
IntyalleWell I tried ejecting it and mounting again, no luck23:57
IntyalleIf only I could remember the search I used last time it was playing up, I could find the command that fixed it last time again23:57
J100no that will not work23:58
lightais it ntfs drive ?23:58
AquinaThanks, TheSheep. What about XFCE?23:58
J100I know that command is a useful one (but like you I always for get it)23:58

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