[00:06] <jeff__> can someone please help me to get my bluetooth mouse working?
[00:07] <jeff__> it worked on Kubuntu and Ubuntu, but Xubuntu doesn't seem to have a bluetooth managing app. i installed a package called 'bluetooth support' but it still can't detect the mouse
[00:08] <knome> jeff__, try running the bluetooth applet
[00:09] <jeff__> hey i just downloaded some more stuff and it appears in the menu...
[00:16] <jeff__> ok the manager app makes it work... hopefully on auto now. what about wireless? i have this atheros pci card in my laptop, but there's no hardware driver on the list. there was one on jaunty, but it's disappeared since then. i'm on lucid now.
[00:18] <jeff__> 'hostapd' apparently had madwifi drivers.... testing.....
[00:18] <knome> "automatically" supported cards list has been growing since jaunty, so it might work even without a "special" driver
[00:19] <jeff__> you're right. i'm going to mess around and hopefully it'll work - it's probably easier than i think.
[00:19] <jeff__> i'll be on the mailing list :) ....... bye
[00:20] <knome> good luck
[00:21] <terrible> hey
[00:51] <Aquina> bye
[01:35] <arqeco> Good night
[01:37] <likemindead> Adios.
[01:39] <arqeco> I've tried Xubuntu 10.04 on my Mac G4 using Virtual PC 7.0.3
[01:40] <arqeco> Only the mouse is not working. And when I try to go to the command line using Ctrl+Alt+F1, I get the message "login timed out after 60 seconds"
[01:41] <arqeco> What can I do?
[01:41] <arqeco> I was trying use the command line to edit xorg.conf
[01:43] <likemindead> Is that PPC?
[01:43] <arqeco> Yes
[01:44] <arqeco> Well, my Mac is PPC, Xubuntu not, VPC is an Intel emulator
[01:52] <arqeco> I can't use the system since it did not detected my mouse (PS/2)
[01:52] <arqeco> And I can't go to terminal using Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:53] <arqeco> The command line black screen opens but only shows a lot of "login timed out after 60 seconds" messages
[01:53] <likemindead> Bummer. :-\
[02:06] <arqeco> Is there any something I can write on "Boot:" to enable PS/2 mouse?
[02:17] <arqeco> I am leaving now
[02:17] <arqeco> Adios
[05:24] <shingo> if my computer lags running fresh install of xubuntu, I probably need a new computer huh? lol. At least I was able to type this.
[09:35] <Intyalle> Hey, I'm having problems. I'm trying to make a new folder on my external hard drive so I can backup and wipe, but every time I try to make a new folder, I get an error saying the folder couldn't be made because it didn't exist 0_o
[09:35] <Intyalle> Which seems just a bit... counter-intuitive.
[09:36] <Intyalle> Anyone around who can help?
[09:47] <Intyalle> 'lo?
[09:48] <Intyalle> Hey, issa pleia2
[09:48]  * Intyalle pokes
[12:00] <nikolam> I would like to update to Lucid, using mounted .iso DVD of Lucid in /media/vcd
[12:04] <nikolam> I would like to add it as a source since i dont want it to download same things again
[12:05] <bazhang> you need the alternate for that
[12:08] <nikolam> i am iterested how to add .iso to sources.list if it is mounted on /media/vcd already of eather unpacked from .iso or whatever
[12:08] <nikolam> instead of burning it etc
[12:08] <nikolam> so only alternat could be added as source to sources.list?
[12:10] <bazhang> do you have grub2?
[12:11] <nikolam> I am on Hardy LTS
[12:11] <nikolam> I just get in shell to /media/vcd
[12:11] <bazhang> ah okay, then that won't work.
[12:11] <nikolam> and started sudo sh cdromupgrade
[12:11] <nikolam> and it popped up to upgrade.
[12:11] <nikolam> i will do that
[12:11] <bazhang> you need the alternate cd to upgrade
[12:12] <nikolam> bazhang, but why if i have Ubuntu DVD already and network available
[12:12] <nikolam> I suppose it will get xubuntu bits from network and thats it
[12:12] <bazhang> nikolam, why not just upgrade via the net
[12:13] <bazhang> unless you wish to do a fresh install with that DVD
[12:13] <bazhang> nikolam, do you have a separate /home ?
[12:13] <nikolam> bazhang, well, i already downloaded .iso dvd and also it does chek net update while upgrading
[12:13] <nikolam> it is asking me to do so while update, so it will
[12:13] <nikolam> no, /home on same partition in software raid
[12:14] <nikolam> I did backup of my home
[12:14] <nikolam> i suppose it will stay on ext3
[12:14] <bazhang> okay, good you have backups
[12:14] <nikolam> and not touching data
[12:14] <bazhang> your method won't work though
[12:15] <nikolam> Heh, it gives me info that fglrx driver for my integrated AMD graphics card is not available anymore
[12:15] <nikolam> bazhang, Why it wont work?
[12:16] <nikolam> It is like you insert Uduntu DVD with new LTS release in Xubuntu older LTS machine
[12:16] <nikolam> difference between xubuntu and ubuntu are xubuntu packages
[12:16] <nikolam> if it dont i will reinstall new LTS
[12:16] <nikolam> but i dont see why it wont
[12:17] <bazhang> you said you were mounting the iso? to use as a source?
[12:17] <nikolam> yes
[12:17] <bazhang> not even burned to DVD?
[12:17] <nikolam> and after mounting, I just went there
[12:17] <nikolam> and started cdromupdate script
[12:17] <nikolam> and thats it
[12:17] <bazhang> never heard of that working.
[12:18] <bazhang> always need the alternate.
[12:18] <bazhang> !upgrade
[12:18] <nikolam> well, if guy pops in dvd in machine, that is like same thing
[12:18] <bazhang> check that ^^
[12:18] <nikolam> ok.
[12:18] <nikolam> just started doing upgrade ;)
[12:18] <bazhang> good luck.
[12:20] <nikolam> So I think this is like network update using also that mounted iso to compare , and that is what I wanted
[12:22] <nikolam> he asked me to remove skype before update
[12:23] <bazhang> third party repos? that's normal
[12:23] <nikolam> I removed repos before
[12:23] <nikolam> He asked me to remove the other skype package
[12:24] <nikolam> getdeb people also say it is better to remove their packages befor update, too
[12:25] <nikolam> Uhh, it shows that support for SO many applications ended, by canonical. Well, no sweat ;)
[12:28] <nikolam> It is saying it will download 2Gig from network
[12:29] <bazhang> sounds right
[12:29] <nikolam> So thats bad. it seems like he does not use mounted DVD..
[12:29] <bazhang> correct
[12:29] <nikolam> well I dont want that.
[12:29] <nikolam> i think i will burn it on DVD and pop it in
[12:29] <bazhang> then get the alternate CD
[12:29] <nikolam> since i dont know that sources.list line to add mounted iso
[12:29] <bazhang> or just fresh install and move your home back
[12:30] <bazhang> do it beforehand even
[12:30] <bazhang> !home
[12:44] <nikolam> Ahaa. i will do the trick NOT to use updates from internet while updating form old Lts to new
[12:45] <nikolam> That way he must use locally stored packages
[12:45] <nikolam> and then will regularly update needed updates
[12:45] <nikolam> nice.
[12:45] <nikolam> then again. I am burning disc, so will see.
[14:29] <judgen_> How do i search in thunar-
[14:29] <judgen_> or alternatively do an unp recursevily on all .rar files in a folder.
[14:30] <judgen_> also, how do i disable all screensavers.
[14:45] <BlueEagle> judgen_: The first an last question is answered when pasting them verbatim to google.
[14:52] <judgen_> BlueEagle, not helpful...
[14:53] <judgen_> i dont have a web browser compiled yet.
[15:00] <judgen_> ok now i have elinks2
[15:02] <judgen_> ok screensavers fixed.
[15:02] <judgen_> how do i do the search or unp recursevily
[15:36] <slow-motion> hi
[16:55] <lighta> hi, does thunar support smb ?
[17:00] <residentgrey> smb = samba?
[17:00] <lighta> yes
[17:00] <lighta> well windows smb not really samba but..
[17:18] <Guest19700> hi all, just installed xubuntu 8.04, and having problems with resolution. I only have 800x600 and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does work
[17:42] <gausie> hi all. i'm experiencing the problem described in this video clip. can anyone help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6xZqakN-M
[18:08] <gothenburg> win 18
[18:22] <drizzt_> residentgrey, SMB is what Samba tries but constantly fails to be
[18:24] <residentgrey> ahh
[18:24] <residentgrey> then again I am only familiar with samba in name not what it does, still a n00b here
[18:36] <TheSheep> drizzt_: smb is the name of the "protocol" (it's not a real protocol, because it's not documented), samba is a suite of tools that implements it, and a couple of other things
[18:36] <drizzt_> TheSheep, what do you mean, not documented?
[18:36] <residentgrey> bbl
[18:37] <TheSheep> drizzt_: oh, I'm sure they have documentation internally, but it's not published, the documentation that is published is inaccurate and outdated
[18:41] <drizzt_> SMB protocol specification was released March 2007 and the last update (in my version) is October 2009. SMB2 specification was released MArch 2007. Stop spreading disinformation
[18:45] <TheSheep> drizzt_: the problems is that real windows machines don't really follow that specification
[18:46] <TheSheep> drizzt_: that's what I call inacurrate
[18:47] <TheSheep> the most accurate spec would be of course released source code, but that is not going to happen, obviously
[18:47] <TheSheep> until then we have to rely on reverse-engineered tools
[18:48] <TheSheep> drizzt_: of course, my information may be inaccurate, I don't really follow or care about smb
[18:54] <jungli> y0
[19:16] <Shy> Ok. so I installed xubuntu onto a flash drive, booted from it, and it asks me to login. I am able to type my user name, but when it asks for mypassword it wont let me type anything..
[19:17] <TheSheep> it just doesn't appera
[19:17] <TheSheep> appear
[19:17] <TheSheep> but it works
[19:18] <Shy> is it casesensitive and such?
[19:31] <TheSheep> yes
[19:53] <gothenburg> nej
[20:25] <nicklas_> yo
[20:53] <nicklas_> nobody here?
[20:54] <charlie-tca> Actually, many are here.
[20:54] <charlie-tca> !nobody
[20:54] <charlie-tca> !anyone
[20:54] <nicklas_> i dont have any question :-P
[20:56] <Sysi> this isn't offtopic channel either
[20:56] <nicklas_> yeah, i know that, sorry
[21:02] <eikenberry> What's the default email program in xubuntu?
[21:03] <charlie-tca> Mozilla Thunderbird
[21:03] <eikenberry> thanks
[21:03] <charlie-tca> no problem
[22:04] <Aquina> There are dozen if not hundereds of files in .config and other directories in ~ containing absolute paths in configuration files like "/home/username/foo". I replaced lots of paths with $HOME. I#ve got the feeling though it doesn't work correctly. Any ideas, comments or suggestions?
[22:08] <TheSheep> Aquina: it only works in bash scritps
[22:08] <TheSheep> Aquina: different config file formats use different syntax
[22:08] <TheSheep> Aquina: some will allow you to use ~ for home
[22:09] <TheSheep> Aquina: some will only accept absolute pths
[22:09] <TheSheep> Aquina: it all depends on the creator of the application
[22:09] <TheSheep> Aquina: or the libraries he uses
[22:20] <xubuntu665> PENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[22:25] <xubuntu354> wtf?
[22:56] <Intyalle> Anyone here now?
[22:58]  * Intyalle sighs and settles in for another long wait and tries to not let her external hard drive issues drive her mad
[23:06] <schlaftier> Intyalle: If you want to speed things up, ask your question and don't wait for signs of life
[23:06] <Intyalle> I would note I did that last night
[23:06] <Intyalle> Without success.
[23:07] <Intyalle> Last night I was having issues creating a new folder on my external hard drive - I kept getting an error saying it couldn't create the folder because the file/folder didn't exist
[23:09] <Intyalle> Now it's gone back to saying it's mounted as read/write but actually being read only, and any amount of chmod or similar have no actual effect even when they say they do. There was a command I found to fix that last time, but I can't find it again now because I don't remember what I typed in as the search
[23:11] <Sysi> is it ntfs?
[23:12] <Sysi> !ntfs-3g
[23:12] <Intyalle> It says fuseblk, but according to a quick search that means it is ntfs. Something about a workaround
[23:13] <Sysi> try to install that ntfs-3g
[23:15] <Intyalle> I did, ran it, selected write support for both internal and external... and the external hard drive is still acting like it's read only.
[23:16] <Sysi> did you try to mount it again?
[23:19] <Intyalle> I unplugged it so I could try to mount it again and now when I plug it in it just doesn't show
[23:20] <Sysi> i wonder if it's HAL issue then
[23:20] <Intyalle> And if it is, how would I go about fixing it?
[23:21] <Sysi> install hal
[23:21] <Intyalle> The external HDD *used* to work just fine... no clue why it isn't now.
[23:21] <Sysi> and reboot
[23:21] <Intyalle> Says I already have the newest version
[23:22] <Sysi> so that isn't issue
[23:26] <J100> I have been trying to get xubuntu 10.04 onto a hp pavilion 8575c
[23:27] <J100> and it won't install but xubuntu 8.04
[23:27] <Intyalle> brb, gonna try a restart to see if it'll pick up the hard drive again.
[23:27] <J100> will do just fine
[23:27] <Sysi> where installation stops?
[23:28] <J100> my install fails after it completes and restarts
[23:29] <J100> grub doesn't even come up
[23:29] <Sysi> does it give error?
[23:29] <J100> no just a black screen then xubuntu trys to start and freezes
[23:30] <J100> so I have been trying f6 options for boot and
[23:30] <Sysi> grub menu don't come up by fedault in 10.04
[23:31] <J100> using all of them except of the free software only gets the live cd to boot
[23:31] <J100> o
[23:31] <J100> that helps
[23:31] <Sysi> what graphics card?
[23:31] <J100> in 8.04 you can hit escape and get it
[23:32] <J100> ati
[23:32] <J100> 64mb
[23:32] <J100> just a sec will boot 8.04 and run lspci
[23:33] <Intyalle> Okay, it's showing up again at least. Any suggestions before I mount it?
[23:35] <J100> radeon rv100 (radeon 7000/ve)
[23:35] <J100> thats the out put of lspci
[23:36] <J100> 8.04 gives a warning at startup about no bois year and that apic=force is required
[23:38] <Intyalle> ... I'll take that as a no.
[23:41] <J100> sorry it was acpi=force
[23:43] <J100> could i install 8.04 and 10.04 side by side?
[23:44] <Intyalle> J100: Assuming you can actually install them both I'd say probably in the same way you'd install Windows and Linux side by side
[23:45] <J100> thats what I was thinking I havn't done a linux side by side yet
[23:48] <slow-motion> n8
[23:48] <Intyalle> I wasn't under the impression that it mattered what two operating systems were involved in the dual booting. Though I do wonder why you'd want an earlier version of the same thing you'll be installing - after all, this isn't Windows where new programs only run on the new systems but the older systems are better.
[23:49] <J100> no thats true
[23:49] <J100> Should state the reason
[23:50] <J100> I am so tired of having to reinstall after 10.04 fails
[23:50] <Intyalle> Ah, I see. Fair enough then I suppose.
[23:50] <J100> its is a boot option I am sure of that now, but which one ( the install takes forever on this old hardware)
[23:51] <Intyalle> I'll be upgrading to 10.04 after the wipe... Assuming, of course, that I can get my external hard drive working so that I can backup the files I need to keep so that I *can* wipe.
[23:52] <lighta> oh hi, I having some mount error after updating to 10.04 (before entering session) how does I take this off ?
[23:52] <J100> just a question
[23:52] <J100> about the external hd
[23:53] <Intyalle> J100: Ask away
[23:53] <lighta> none got this error too ? It only show me this but me /etc/fstab mount working well so..
[23:54] <J100> has it been improperly ejected from the system you are trying to backup (if it has you will be able to see it and look at files possiblely but you will not be able to write to the drive)
[23:55] <Intyalle> I don't know about improperly ejected, but yes it'd acting as read-only despite saying it's mounted as read/write
[23:55] <Intyalle> *it's
[23:55] <Intyalle> Again.
[23:56] <J100> it was most likely unplugged without being ejected by the os (this causes the no write issue in my experience)
[23:56] <J100> there is a trick to restoring a file on the drive so that the os will write to it again (if I remember correctly)
[23:57] <Intyalle> Well I tried ejecting it and mounting again, no luck
[23:57] <Intyalle> If only I could remember the search I used last time it was playing up, I could find the command that fixed it last time again
[23:58] <J100> no that will not work
[23:58] <lighta> is it ntfs drive ?
[23:58] <Aquina> Thanks, TheSheep. What about XFCE?
[23:58] <J100> I know that command is a useful one (but like you I always for get it)