lex79JontheEchidna: around? :)01:55
JontheEchidnalex79: yeah01:56
lex79hihih :)01:56
lex79JontheEchidna: you should upload these packages https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/ppa/+packages01:56
lex79I renamed two libraries in -workspace, so we need a rebuild for the transitions01:57
lex79don't upload -workspace from my ppa, it's already uploaded :)01:57
lex79and drop +ppa1 from plasma-widget-networkmanagement01:57
JontheEchidnahave the renamed libraries made it through new queue yet?01:58
lex79they are already out from "new"01:58
lex79JontheEchidna: I think... look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.4.85-0ubuntu201:59
JontheEchidnalooks about right to me01:59
lex79I'm doing also digikam but it need mysql now02:00
lex79it has a feauture like amarok http://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/4681000883/sizes/l/02:00
lex79JontheEchidna: do you know why we build amarok with libmysqld-pic as build-dep and mysql-server-5.1 as build-depends-indep ? :/02:02
JontheEchidnabecause amarok uses mysqle02:03
JontheEchidnae == embedded02:03
JontheEchidnaso that there isn't a need for an external mysql server02:03
JontheEchidnadigikam might not need mysql at build time02:03
lex79uhm, no, digikam need mysqld since this release02:04
lex79and wont build without it02:04
lex79I add now mysql-server-5.1 in build-dep and built02:05
JontheEchidnaI think if you commented out line 179 - 192 of http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/graphics/digikam/CMakeLists.txt?revision=1135982&view=markup that there's a chance you could build digikam without installing the whole server02:07
JontheEchidnaIt's just a check to make sure mysql is on the system for runtime, I think02:08
lex79ok I'll try02:09
JontheEchidnaok, maybe not... kde svn 110996902:10
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1109969&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1109969 | bye bye Digikam::RExpanderBox...02:10
JontheEchidnastinky :(02:10
JontheEchidnaBut then, this is the upstream that made 1.3.0 depend on trunk kdegraphics, so they're obviously not to knowledgable on how to distribute software...02:11
lex79uhm :(02:12
JontheEchidnaThat puts Debian in a bit of a tough situation, since they're shipping squeeze with 4.402:15
JontheEchidnalex79: does kdeplasma-addons need uploading too?02:16
lex79yes it does02:16
JontheEchidnalex79: could you put in in bzr please?02:16
lex79JontheEchidna: done, I'm doing kdeutils02:19
lex79kdeuitls in bzr02:21
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ScottKJontheEchidna and lex79: those rebuilds will misbuild on the slow archs and we'll have to do them again.03:21
ScottK(unless the FTBFS, of course)03:21
JontheEchidnaScottK: they should FTBFS, since the build-dep version was bumped03:21
ScottKGood to hear.03:22
JontheEchidnalex79: ^would be nice to have that sort of thing documented in debian/changleog, in the future03:22
lex79JontheEchidna: ok, I didnt't bump the build-dep version in kdeplasma-addons and kdeutils since we use kde-sc-dev-latest and we use >= 4:4.403:23
ScottKThose will both fail anway.03:24
lex79-workspace I think is ftbs on the slow archs, like the others KDE packages03:25
ScottKIt is, although I'm getting close on ia64.03:26
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1137466 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Add isSupported() and supportedUntil() functions to QApt::Package, to determine if and how long a package is supported by Canonical03:32
JontheEchidnaktorrent magnet link support == <303:36
JontheEchidnaanybody know why kinfocenter only has one module?03:41
JontheEchidnakmix vs knetworkmanager -- confusing: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopx14685-jpg.jpg03:49
JontheEchidnaI always hit networkmanager :(03:49
lex79what do you mean for one module?03:54
JontheEchidnalex79: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoph14685-jpg.jpg03:55
lex79JontheEchidna: http://imagebin.ca/view/HM9zCp.html03:59
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JontheEchidnaquad core, lucky04:01
JontheEchidnaaha, fixed in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.4.85-0ubuntu204:02
lex79ah, I've already 0ubuntu2 :P04:03
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1137470 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp s/i++/++i04:11
apacheloggershadeslayer_: mind the dependencies (re increased size)08:54
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apacheloggerkubotu: quit09:06
valoriehas there been any discussion of packaging qtgain for *buntu?09:24
valorieit's available as a .deb, but I'm hesitant to dl a random .deb09:24
valorieit's a front end for vorbis gain, mp3gain, etc.09:25
apacheloggerisnt amarok a frontend for that too? ^^09:30
apacheloggervalorie: seems packagable09:32
valorieamarok reads gain tags09:32
valoriebut doesn't write them09:32
valoriebefore this, the only thing I've seen that will write them was in windows09:33
valorieso people were using wine to do it09:33
valorieI was going to write an howto article for the Insider09:33
valoriebut couldn't find a linux replaygain tagger09:34
valoriethen someone suggested this in the forum09:34
valoriehow do I request this?09:34
apacheloggeraacgain uses cvs09:39
* apachelogger is scared09:39
valoriewhat is that?09:39
jussisimilar to svn, but nasty09:40
apacheloggerit tries to provide the same thing SVN tries to provide09:40
apachelogger...version control...09:40
apacheloggerCVS does an even crappier job at it than SVN does09:40
valoriedang, there are so many of them09:41
apacheloggerand SVN is already pretty bad ^^09:41
valorieand I guess once people learn how to use one, they don't want the pain of learning another09:41
valoriethus most of KDE not being on git09:41
jussigit is awesome09:41
apacheloggerwell, it is because they do not understand the inner workings ;)09:42
valoriethe amarok devels seem to like it09:42
valorieit's a mystery to me09:42
apacheloggerit is like those users of microsoft word that need retraining every new UI iteration09:42
jussias do Sput and the quassel peoples09:42
valorieexcept cloning or pulling from it09:42
apacheloggerthey learn where to find things rather than where to look for them09:42
jussigit bisect is a pretty cool tool09:42
jussianyway, off to find breakfast...09:42
valorieI read most of what they write about it09:43
valoriefiguring eventually it will start to make sense09:43
* apachelogger likes devs using qmake without implementing make install09:43
valorieso far, I just follow good instructions09:44
apacheloggervalorie: I think it would be better to first read what git does and how09:44
apacheloggerthen everything becomes a lot clearer09:44
apacheloggereven life itself09:44
* apachelogger feels enlightened ever since git came into the world ^^09:44
valoriebut after learning how to build amarok, building vlc and phonon-vlc made more sense09:44
valorieI did read some of the docs, but they really didn't make any sense09:44
valorieeventually they will09:45
apacheloggerkubotu: np09:45
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)" by The Arcade Fire [Funeral] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more09:45
valorieold brain, full of useless junk09:45
* apachelogger is SSH tunneling ^^09:45
* apachelogger always listens to that song when tunneling somewhere ^^09:45
valorieI have to shove old stuff out to make room for the new09:45
valoriekubotu: np09:45
kubotuvalorie hasn't played anything recently09:45
valorienot true!09:45
* valorie is listening to The Four Seasons: Concerti Grossi, Op. 8 No. 2: Summer by Antonio Vivaldi on The Vivaldi Collection, Volume One: The Four Seasons / Musici di San Marco [Amarok]09:46
valorie<3 the Arcade Fire09:46
valoriethat CD, in particular09:46
valorie"source code for AACGain is hosted in the sourceforge cvs repository as part of the mp3gain project"09:47
valorieso a lot of it is in cvs09:47
apachelogger!info mp3gain09:47
ubottump3gain (source: mp3gain): Lossless mp3 normalizer with statistical analysis. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-3 (lucid), package size 63 kB, installed size 180 kB09:47
apachelogger!info vorbisgain09:47
valorieis that what sourcforge uses?09:47
ubottuvorbisgain (source: vorbisgain): add Replay Gain volume tags to Ogg Vorbis files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.36-3.1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 26 kB, installed size 92 kB09:47
apacheloggervalorie: the two important ones are already packaged09:48
apachelogger<3 developers who create GUI apps but fail to provide desktop files09:48
valoriebut this is a front end09:48
valorieso you can just drag folders in and get them processed09:48
valorieright, Sourceforge uses CVS and Subversion09:50
valorieLinus should beat them with the big GIT stick09:51
apacheloggersf is not the best service there is anyway09:55
apacheloggerin the early days amarok used it09:55
apacheloggerit was a flipping nightmare09:55
apacheloggerkubotu: google desktop entry spec09:55
kubotuResults for desktop entry spec: 1. Desktop Entry Specification: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ | 2. Desktop Entry Specification: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html | 3. freedesktop.org - Specifications/desktop-entry-spec: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec09:55
* apachelogger hugs kubotu09:55
apacheloggervalorie: almost done with the package10:00
valorieyou are amazing, apachelogger10:00
valorieis it pink?10:00
apacheloggerthe package? no, unfrotunately not :(10:02
apacheloggerin a query I got - [11:03:08] <mauriziokubuntu> !LIST10:04
apacheloggerscary really ^^10:04
valoriethat's some coding, there10:05
apacheloggerRiddell: krake tells me that akonadi-u1-bookmarks could access the data of the existing local-bookmark resource ... so it is likely that getting this to work would be as much work as serializing the desktopcouch format to XBEL and hooking it up with the local-bookmarks10:11
apacheloggervalorie: This application does have a ... weird ... user interface :/10:12
valorieit has an interface10:13
valoriewhich is better than NO interface10:13
valoriewhich is what we have at present10:13
valorietoo bad no pink, though10:13
apacheloggerWell, I personally would not know how to use it :)10:14
valoriethey were saying that the average pop album now is as loud as early metal was10:16
valorieso you can hear Britney, I guess10:16
valorieanyway, if it's packaged10:17
valorieI can test it10:17
valorieand maybe the word will spread10:17
valorieand the author will improve it10:17
apacheloggerBritney? Is she still in business?10:17
valorieactually, her last album wasn't bad10:17
valorieI heard it a bit more often than I would have chosen, but.....10:18
valorieit was no Vanilla Ice10:18
valorieor Achy Breaky Heart10:18
* apachelogger does not know either ^^10:18
valorielucky you10:18
* valorie dares apachelogger to search youtube10:19
apacheloggerNo time! Must package an icon-less application ;)10:19
apacheloggerwell then10:20
apacheloggerpackage is done10:20
valorieso how do I obtain it?10:20
apacheloggerThis however leaves the question where to publish it until it arrives in the Ubuntu archives :/10:20
valoriewell, I mean10:21
valorieI can wait10:21
valoriebut how long does it take to get into the archives?10:21
valorieI was figuring on waiting through some long beaureaucratic process10:21
valorieand then you just DO it10:21
valoriewhich blows me away....10:21
valorieyou totally rock10:22
apacheloggerThat entirely depends on whether and when I can find a MOTU to check that I did not do anything wrong, and then whether and when I can find an archive administrator to check that I did not do anything wrong and that the beasty is really proper free software, and then on whether and when I can find someone from the ubuntu-backports team to backport it ;)10:22
apacheloggerwhich should take like a week10:22
valoriethat is completely cool with me10:23
valoriekubotu: order cookies for apachelogger10:23
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to apachelogger.10:23
valorie{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} to apachelogger10:23
* apachelogger rehugs valorie10:26
apacheloggervalorie: Testing packages should be appearing soonish here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa10:26
valorieyour u1 stuff isn't in there10:27
apacheloggershould it be?10:28
valorieseems like I added another ppa for that10:28
apacheloggerThat reminds me that I wanted to do something on u1 before you interrupted :P10:28
valorieI did attempt to install it10:28
valoriebut couldn't10:28
valoriesorry for the interruption!10:29
valorieif you treat everyone who interrupts you so well10:30
valorieyou'll never be able to get anything accomplished10:30
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613093152-dj9ueoxqxtum67b4 * (4 files in 2 dirs) * Depend on gnome-keyring >= 2.92.92.is.2.30.1-0ubuntu2 (lucid-updates) + In consequence drop the local copy of org.freedesktop.secrets.service10:31
apacheloggervalorie: It will not work unless you manually jump around in source code and fix some stuff for KDE integration :/10:32
valoriethat's beyond my abilities 10:33
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613093307-75gir16h1jc3qh0t * src/libs/Export.h Apparently I forgot to add the Export.h back when I made the syncdaemon public ;)10:33
valorieor time to develop them10:33
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613093450-ys7w1txf9hjdlooo * (.bzrignore debian/changelog) bzrignore++10:34
a|wenhmm, meinproc4 spits out "warning: failed to load external entity "dtd/kdex.dtd""; which is located in /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/dtd/kdex.dtd ... i wonder if that is because it looks in /usr/share/kde instead11:40
apacheloggera|wen: I am not sure I compute that.12:22
a|wenapachelogger: kdesvn FTBFS in maverick currently with that error ... wondered if it was due to the changes in pkg-kde-tools to use /usr/share/kde (meinproc4 will look there), but the kdex.dtd file is still located in kde412:23
apacheloggerWouldnt the error then state the non-kde4'd path?12:24
a|wenthe error doesn't state a file ... i just tried locating it in the build-environment (and found it at the kde4 path)12:24
apacheloggera|wen: I'd strace to see what really goes on.12:25
apacheloggerBut a path searching issues seems very likely indeed.12:25
a|wengood idea ... lets see what strace can tell12:27
* apachelogger takes Nightrose and swings through the channel12:27
* a|wen dances into the kitchen to find some lunch12:30
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613122533-th79f3gv6rqzqia6 * debian/ubuntuone-kde.install fix install13:25
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613125224-8t02v8lms3cuqk47 * debian/ (libubuntuone-qt-api-dev.install ubuntuone-kde.install) fix packaging13:52
jussihrm. my plasma seems to be slow. for instance in lancelot, the moving of the highlight lags behind the mouse...14:07
a|wenapachelogger: from the strace it looks like it is simply looking in a subdir of the current directory in the build-dir ... but of cause, i could be reading it wrong http://awen.dk/temp/meinproc.strace14:13
apacheloggera|wen: Did you invoke it with the right settings?14:14
a|wenapachelogger: as far as i could ... is there any way to make sure it has the same environment as when the build is going on?14:16
apacheloggernot sure14:17
apacheloggera|wen: Just write a wrapper script around meinproc414:17
apachelogger/home/test/bin/meinproc4: strace /usr/bin/meinproc4 $@ 14:18
apacheloggeror something14:18
a|wenprobably the best option ... hmm, maybe enabling debuggin in debian/rules will show something as well14:22
* apachelogger really does not like the surveys that are sent to lists -.-14:24
ulyssesapachelogger: Does Ubuntu One KDE works with Maverick?14:37
apacheloggeruntested it is14:37
ulyssesThen I'll test it:)14:37
apacheloggeralso someone would have to make a package for that ^^14:37
ulyssesoh, I forgot that14:38
a|wengreat ... looks like it really only looks in the local directory; this is strange14:40
jussiapachelogger: is there a lucid package for itP?14:41
jussioh.. /me sees email now14:43
ulyssesubuntuone-kde installed in Virtualbox:)15:36
shadeslayer_apachelogger: hey :)15:41
apacheloggershadeslayer_: o/15:42
shadeslayer_apachelogger: yes  i saw the increased size... its a overall increase of 500 KB ....15:42
apacheloggerthat is not too bad15:42
shadeslayer_yeah... libkopete has increased by about 1 KB , kopete by 499 KB15:42
shadeslayer_thats just for the amd64 builds tho15:43
ulyssesapachelogger: I got some error with patching the syndaemon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/449217/15:43
apacheloggershadeslayer_: Well, what is with the dependencies...15:43
apacheloggerThey also play into the size that would be added to the CD :/15:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: ah yes, we need two MIR's15:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: hmm.. really? 15:44
apacheloggerulysses: on maverick?15:44
ulyssesapachelogger: No, this is Lucid (i386) in Virtualbox15:44
apacheloggerulysses: with lucid-updates?15:44
ulyssesfresh installed Lucid, no update yet15:44
apacheloggerulysses: please update15:45
apacheloggershould be applying against the version from lucid-updates with Hunk #2 succeeded at 304 (offset -21 lines).15:45
apacheloggerNightrose: ping15:46
Nightroseapachelogger: pong15:47
apacheloggeroh nuno is on the radio \o/15:47
apacheloggerNightrose: Amarok promo does have no spunk!15:47
* apachelogger considers this a bug15:48
apacheloggerfor that matter15:48
Nightroseapachelogger: bugfix welcome...15:48
apacheloggerapachelogger: Kubuntu promo does have no spunk either!15:48
apacheloggerapachelogger: yeah, I know :/15:48
shadeslayer_apachelogger: talking to self again?15:48
apacheloggerNightrose: maybe apachelogger can help15:48
Nightrosei already told you you could ;-)15:49
Nightrosebut seriously: 0 time atm15:49
* Nightrose goes back to writing15:49
apacheloggerNightrose: :*15:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://pastebin.com/KL9rEwTJ15:49
shadeslayerthe 2 packages that need MIR's15:50
apacheloggershadeslayer_: Nope, you got something wrong there. The underlying source packages need MIRs.15:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes,the linphone source package ;)15:51
apacheloggershadeslayer_: The source package must be in main, any given binary package from the source package can then be in main, or not. :)15:51
apacheloggershadeslayer_: Also that still does not settle the question as to how much actual dependencies this adds :)15:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: im looking into that too....15:51
shadeslayerfor the actual binary in the CD i would think we need libmediastreamer too15:52
shadeslayerno this is not going to work out :P15:52
shadeslayerfat chance of getting Depends: libasound2 (>> 1.0.22), libavcodec52 (>= 4:0.6~svn20100505-1) | libavcodec-extra-52 (>= 4:0.6~svn20100505-1), libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgsm1 (>= 1.0.13), libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3), libortp8, libpulse0 (>= 0.9.16), libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libspeex1 (>= 1.2~beta3-1), libspeexdsp1 (>= 1.2~beta3.2-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libswscale0 (>= 4:0.6~svn20100505-1) | libswscale-extra-0 (>= 4:015:53
shadeslayer.6~svn20100505-1), libtheora0 (>= 0.0.0.alpha7.dfsg), libv4l-0 (>= 0.5.0), libx11-615:53
shadeslayerinto the cd15:53
apacheloggerIs that libkopete or kopete?15:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: thats the dep of libmediastreamer015:54
* apachelogger finds this all very confusing ^^15:54
apacheloggershadeslayer_: What do libkopete and kopete link against?15:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: we added just 2 deps, libortp-dev and libmediastreamer0-dev,libmediastreamer0-dev has a dep against libmediastreamer0 which has a dep against all of the above15:55
apacheloggeroh oh oh15:55
apacheloggerWe need to get the wording sorted here :)15:55
shadeslayerhehe true :D15:56
apacheloggershadeslayer_: Linking against = what will show up as dependency in the actual deb (e.g. what apt-cache lists as Depends:)15:56
apacheloggerthen there is Build-depends = what you need to build the source15:56
apacheloggerand in addition to that again Depends = all that is actually listed as dependencies of the binary package (this does not have to be what one would define as linking against)15:57
apacheloggerfor example an application that comes with a python script might depend on python, but will not link against it15:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: like this? http://pastebin.com/q5dsSrYF15:58
apacheloggerI am wondering where that @h@ is coming through though. 16:00
shadeslayeryeah,didnt see that Depends was all in one line :P16:00
shadeslayerso i added @h@ to each line ;)16:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: we also have http://pastebin.com/Buq6WgDJ16:01
apacheloggerah :)16:01
apacheloggerlibortp8 is about 80kb (200 installed)16:02
apacheloggerno further deps16:03
apacheloggerthat is good16:03
apacheloggerlibmediastreamer0 is 120 (350 installed)16:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: that you can savely try using the KDE integration. It should be noted that ... hehe savely :P16:05
shadeslayerfrom your post in kubuntu-devel 16:05
apacheloggerit will not break anything16:05
apacheloggerit might just not work :P16:05
apacheloggerlibswscale0 is a dep of mediastreamer that is not yet on the CD16:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: wrt kopete?16:06
apacheloggeradds 230 (720 installed)16:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: kopete + google voice works in maverick... lucid testers have given no feedback yet :P16:06
apacheloggerlibavutil is also not on the CD16:06
apacheloggeradds another 100 (230)16:07
shadeslayerhmm... we might be adding about 1-2 MB on the CD with this16:07
apacheloggerlibavcodec is not on board either, adds 4000kb (10000 installed)  - considerable less on amd6416:08
apacheloggerlibgsm is not on board adding 30 (120)16:08
apacheloggerlibschroedigner is not on board - adding 210 (630)16:09
apacheloggerliboil is not on board - adding 160 (680)16:09
apacheloggershadeslayer_: is that 500 for kopete installed or packaged?16:10
apacheloggereither way this adds around 5 MiB to the CD :/16:11
apacheloggerlibavcodec is quite heavy16:11
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shadeslayer_apachelogger: 500 KB packaged :P16:13
apacheloggershadeslayer_: that is almost 5.5 then :/16:14
apacheloggerThat is a lot...16:14
shadeslayer_yes seems so....16:14
shadeslayer_so i guess we will have to dump this then :)(16:14
bulldog98someone knows how to install kdevelop in maverick?16:14
shadeslayer_omg... kdevelop is still at 4.4.0 in maverick16:15
shadeslayer_Riddell: ^^16:15
bulldog98if I enter: "apt-get install kdevelop"16:15
apacheloggershadeslayer_: There are more advanced packaging techniques ;)16:16
bulldog98it says kdevplatform1-libs would replace it16:16
apacheloggerWe could have like libkopete-gtalk or something ;)16:16
apacheloggerNot sure if it is worth it.16:16
shadeslayer_apachelogger: i need to learn those i guess then :)16:16
shadeslayer_apachelogger: hmm... true16:16
apacheloggershadeslayer_: maybe bring this up on the mailing list, maybe others think that it is worth the 5 MiB eitherway16:16
apacheloggerIn which case you would not have to mess with that other stuff ;)16:17
shadeslayer_ok ill put it in the ML :)16:17
apacheloggershadeslayer_: Any news from upstream by the way?16:17
shadeslayer_nope... the guy who reported the bug responded though16:18
shadeslayer_on my mail.... 16:18
apacheloggerAlso, this  feature is VERY hidden.16:18
shadeslayer_yes... thats true16:18
apacheloggerkubotu: np16:19
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "lobster bucket!" by The Aquabats! -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more16:19
apacheloggershadeslayer_: It does not even do video....16:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: its not in the jingle library :(16:24
apacheloggerWell, I opt for not adding it just now.16:24
apacheloggerEspecially since the user will be strugled with getting it setup to begin with16:24
shadeslayerthey will update it with video support in the near future16:24
apacheloggerBecause kopete does not offer GTalk as option and getting the settings right is almost impossible16:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: uh.. kopete does offer gtalk as a option... also i didnt have to fiddle with anything on maverick.. works out of the box16:26
shadeslayeralso there is a small bug... you can make calls but when you recieve them you dont get audio16:28
apacheloggershadeslayer_: Where? Screenshot!16:29
apacheloggerI do not see no gtalk :(16:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/DxxChPPP.html16:32
apacheloggerThis is not obvious to the user.16:32
apacheloggerAlso you do have to set this junk up.16:32
shadeslayeryeah... change server to talk.google.com16:33
apacheloggerFor Google Talk setup should be like: enter username, enter password. bang16:33
Tm_Tapachelogger: there's no "README" in your gsoc branch16:33
apacheloggershadeslayer_: How is the regular off the shelf user supposed to know that.16:33
Tm_Tapachelogger: I can write one for you if you like16:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: by googling : set up gtalk in kopete : :D16:34
apacheloggerTm_T: If you deem it necessary :)16:34
apacheloggershadeslayer_: No regular off the shelf user will ever ever do that :/16:34
Tm_Tapachelogger: I do, for the future or if someone gets sourcepackage without your instructions16:34
apacheloggerTm_T: well, I wonder if they would read the readme then :)16:36
ulyssesI've upgraded the system, installed ubuntuone-kde, added the computer to Ubuntu One, but the system tray applet says ':-( Couldn't you let me connect???'16:37
apacheloggerdid you patch the syncdaemon successfully?16:38
apacheloggerdid you restart after patching?16:38
ulyssesYes, I patched and relogin16:38
apacheloggerulysses: this is most odd16:38
apacheloggerulysses: kdedebugdialog -> turn on everything -> run the statusnotifier from a terminal with --nofork16:39
apacheloggerkdebugdialog it is called :)16:39
apacheloggerulysses: Then send the output to apachelogger@ubuntu.com16:39
ulyssesapachelogger: mail sent16:43
bulldog98apachelogger: do you have an PPA with ubuntuone-client in it build from your branch?16:44
apacheloggerulysses: also .cache/ubuntuone please16:45
apacheloggerulysses: too me it seems there is something wrong with your syncdaemon though16:46
ulyssesapachelogger: another e-mail sent16:50
apachelogger2010-06-13 17:34:17,173 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.DBus - ERROR - Can't get the auth token16:55
apacheloggerulysses: are you on 4.4?16:57
ulyssesyes, this is 4.4.216:59
apacheloggerthen this is odd16:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: can i port the client to maverick?16:59
apacheloggercan you please paste /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py16:59
apacheloggershadeslayer_: you can try :P16:59
shadeslayerok ill do it as soon as i can complete this mail to kubuntu-devel17:00
ulyssesapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/449259/17:02
apacheloggerulysses: not patched :P17:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: i hope the client wont erase my ubuntu one account :P17:05
ulysses"Shipping a nice hot cup of tea"17:05
* apachelogger joins that hoping ^^17:05
ulyssesapachelogger: my fault^^17:06
ulyssesSipping* :P17:06
ulyssesit works \o/17:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: did my mail to kubuntu-devel arrive?17:08
apacheloggerulysses: \o/17:09
shadeslayergood.... :)17:09
CIA-91[akonadi-desktopcouch] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613161031-dvwvfb4kfs2rtfu6 * (desktop-couch-resource.cpp desktop-couch-resource.h) copyright++17:10
* shadeslayer wonders if someone reviewed his p-w-n patches17:12
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Tm_Tapachelogger: README is the thing I try to find and read first ~every time so...17:15
apacheloggerTm_T: Well, you are special :)17:16
Tm_TI am! <317:16
apacheloggershadeslayer_: I think that is redundant ;)17:16
apacheloggerkubotu: topic replace 1 You are amazing <317:16
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apacheloggershadeslayer_: Is that not better? ;)17:17
apacheloggerkubotu: topic del 417:17
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shadeslayerapachelogger: any idea how to remove qtcreator when its not installed by apt ?17:29
bulldog98shadeslayer: sudo make uninstall17:30
shadeslayerbulldog98: no.. make files,i just ran ./installer17:31
bulldog98shadeslayer: ./installer uninstall ?17:31
CIA-91[akonadi-desktopcouch] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613163133-23wq8d0oqc0tasc5 * desktop-couch-resource.cpp more mappings, I do not like how this looks at all :/17:31
shadeslayerwell theres a qtcreator-1.3.85 folder.... maybe if i remove that17:31
apacheloggershadeslayer_: there is an installer in the folder17:32
apacheloggerme@osiris:~/usr/qtcreator-1.3.85/bin$ ls unin*17:32
shadeslayerah yes :)17:32
bulldog98apachelogger: in your CMakeLists.txt isn’t the /…/apps/… to much in the 3 line?17:39
apacheloggerin what cmakelists?17:39
bulldog98apachelogger: of ubuntuone-client-kde17:39
bulldog98in you gsoc repro17:39
apacheloggerubuntuone-client-kde is dead?17:39
apacheloggerbulldog98: you mean ubuntone-kde?17:40
bulldog98apachelogger: yes17:40
apacheloggerwhat cmakelists there?17:40
apacheloggerset(CMAKE_MODULE_PATH ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/cmake/modules /usr/share/apps/cmake/modules)17:40
bulldog98yes apachelogger17:41
apacheloggerpossibly, possibly not17:41
apacheloggerthere is certainly no harm in searching more paths ;)17:41
bulldog98apachelogger: what deps does it have17:42
apacheloggerDepends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.4.2), kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.4.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libkonq5 (>= 4:4.4.2), libqjson0, libqoauth1, libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-svg (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1)17:44
apacheloggerDepends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.4.2), kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.4.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libkonq5 (>= 4:4.4.2), libqjson0, libqoauth1, libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-svg (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1)17:44
apacheloggerjust once :)17:44
apacheloggerDepends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.4.2), kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.4.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libqjson0, libqoauth1, libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-svg (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), ubuntuone-client, desktopcouch, gnome-keyring (>= 2.92.92.is.2.30.1-0ubuntu2)17:45
bulldog98apachelogger: can you build it for maverick, please?17:50
apacheloggershadeslayer_ can17:50
bulldog98shadeslayer: ?17:51
* apachelogger doesnt really want to have to update 2 packages each time around17:51
shadeslayerbulldog98: whut?17:51
bulldog984 - 6 lines above17:52
shadeslayerbulldog98: oh building ubuntuone-kde for mav ?17:52
bulldog98shadeslayer: yes17:52
shadeslayerbulldog98: im currently compiling qtcreator...17:53
shadeslayerill build it after that :)17:53
bulldog98shadeslayer: and can you look after the rekonq package? It has some probs17:53
shadeslayerbulldog98: the daily one?17:54
bulldog98shadeslayer: yes17:54
shadeslayersure.. will have a look17:54
bulldog98shadeslayer: I don’t know whats wrong but it keeps crashing every time I start it17:54
Lurehello all after a long time17:55
shadeslayerhmm.. unfortunately im on maverick17:55
bulldog98shadeslayer: me too17:55
shadeslayerto the VM machine :)17:56
bulldog98shadeslayer: I build that packages for maverick too17:56
shadeslayerbulldog98: and?17:57
bulldog98shadeslayer: crashing like hell17:57
shadeslayerbulldog98: git checkout as well?17:57
bulldog98shadeslayer: the daily package17:58
bulldog98shadeslayer: yes17:58
shadeslayerbulldog98: no i mean when you compile the git checkout,instead of installing the package,it crashes as well?17:58
bulldog98shadeslayer: yes17:59
shadeslayerbulldog98: ok ill have a look :)17:59
apacheloggerLure: o/17:59
apacheloggerLure: have you been hiding :)17:59
Lureapachelogger: I changed jobs and had lots of things going on...18:00
jussio/ Lure18:00
Lureapachelogger: now I hope I will get time at least to switch to maverick and help with testing and some bugfixing...18:00
LureI am in Boston in hotel, this is why I have some time now ;-)18:00
apacheloggerLure: For business?18:01
apacheloggermust be some fancy job ^^18:01
Lureyep, attending a conference18:01
Lureapachelogger: not much foss releated, but otherwise ok ;-)18:01
apacheloggerLure: Well, FLOSS is not everything :)18:02
Lureapachelogger: yep, something has to earn for a living too ;-)18:03
jussiapachelogger: well its _almost_ everything... :D18:03
Lurehow is maverick looking? Is it safe to upgrade?18:03
* Lure normally upgraded the first week after repotiory was opened -> not this time18:03
apacheloggerA lot of people in here seem to be using it already.18:05
* Lure notices that some packages will be removed, but nothing of major concern: http://pastebin.com/ZviQ4eYy18:05
jussiLure: maverick... safe? no... fun maybe...18:09
Lurejussi: that is exactly what I need18:11
jussiLure: perfect :D18:11
Lurejussi: I consider "safe" as -> "will not eat my kids and can fix it with help from #kubuntu-devel" ;-)18:12
* Lure says Y to apt-get dist-upgrade ;-)18:12
jussiLure: well I think the x upgrade has been done...18:12
* Lure will know in 5 minutes or so how "safe" it is18:15
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ping18:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: when will you be free for a extended period of time ( say 2-3 hours )18:17
shadeslayerim going to checkout and compile KDE :D18:17
apacheloggernot before july :/18:17
* apachelogger actually should be doing his cpp assignment right now :(18:18
Lureand I thought that I was busy... ;-)18:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok no problem.. ill try it on my own till then :)18:18
apacheloggerwell you can always ask in here or in #kde-devel ;)18:18
apacheloggerLure: I should come visit you for beer some time, say 2015? I got a free day scheduled in August that year.18:19
jussiTm_T: is our resident KDE SVN compiler...18:20
jussishadeslayer: ^^18:20
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jussiapachelogger: no! I booked that one already!18:20
apacheloggeroh noes :(18:20
apacheloggerwhat for?18:20
jussibeer ofcourse! mind, thats not to say Lure cant come...18:21
apacheloggerI am wondering if I am overallocated when meeting 2 people.18:21
apacheloggerOverallocation is a manager's nightmare you must know ;)18:22
shadeslayerjussi: hehe :D18:23
ScottKapachelogger: If you don't want to build two different releases each time, build for Lucid and forward copy to Maverick should work too.18:23
shadeslayerTm_T: around?18:23
apacheloggerScottK: Last time I tried that did not work .... ultimately they would just give me working recipe stuff :/18:24
apacheloggerScottK: Do you want to do some revus? ;)18:24
ScottKapachelogger: Not today.  Busy with offline stuff (just making a brief appearence right now.18:25
* apachelogger hugs ScottK while he is here :)18:25
ScottKMonday through Wednesday don't look so good either.18:26
shadeslayerjussi: +1 for seprate package?18:26
jussishadeslayer: yes18:26
apacheloggeroh dear18:26
* apachelogger was using a wrong library ^^18:27
jussishadeslayer: with option to install similar to the codecs18:27
jussiapachelogger: *G*18:27
apachelogger-- Up-to-date: /isr/lib/libcouchdb-qt.so.0.0.018:27
apacheloggerWhat is wrong with this? ;)18:27
ScottKapachelogger: /isr/?18:28
shadeslayerjussi: the only thing is that we will have to file MIR's against linphone,and i dont think that will get into main.. still lets try :)18:28
jussiok, can someone explain to me exactly what a library is and what it does? (and I dont mean the one down the street)18:28
apacheloggerScottK: Looks wrong, I suppose :)18:28
shadeslayerjussi: a library consists of functions and classes other programs can use18:29
shadeslayerwell depends on their declaration as public,private or friend :P18:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: what fun : http://pastebin.com/dJ230VxA18:30
Tm_Tapachelogger: yes?18:36
shadeslayerTm_T: hi got a sec?18:37
Tm_Tshadeslayer: sure18:38
shadeslayerTm_T: im going to compile KDE svn,any tips?18:38
shadeslayeralso i think i should compile kdelibs first,right?18:38
Tm_Tshadeslayer: the order is: kdesupport and other bits that doesn't depend on kdelibs, then kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase and then rest18:39
Tm_Tshadeslayer: depending on what you want to build, ofcourse18:39
shadeslayerTm_T: well.. i want a basic working KDE ... 18:39
shadeslayerwhatever kubuntu-desktop provides18:40
* apachelogger notes that one can go by the fancy ninja dependency graph for order of builds ^^18:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah i just remembered that as well :)18:40
shadeslayerit doesnt list kdesupport tho18:41
apacheloggerBecause kdesupport is in fact a large pile of stuff below kdelibs :P18:41
shadeslayerhehe :)18:42
apacheloggerThere is no source package kdesupport released. But akonadi and strigi and oxygen-icons and and and.18:42
Tm_Twhich you prolly dont want/need to build from svn/git anyway18:42
apacheloggerespecially not akonadi18:42
Tm_Tapachelogger: why not? (;18:43
apacheloggerBuilding Akonadi from SVN is like seriously scary :P18:43
apacheloggerMore scary than production reelases.18:43
apacheloggerI mean, totally awesome, but scary ^^18:43
Tm_TI cannot remember having any issues18:43
shadeslayerTm_T: ok so install kdesupport from official archives and then build kdelibs right?18:43
Tm_Tshadeslayer: if you need to, you most likely want to go with what distro provides already18:44
apachelogger"If your client software is not capable of guaranteeing uniqueness of generated UUIDs..."18:44
apacheloggerqint64 should be unique enough?18:44
shadeslayer!find kdesupport maverick18:44
ubottuPackage/file kdesupport does not exist in maverick18:44
* apachelogger figures unsigned would probably be better :/18:45
Tm_Tshadeslayer: kdesupport is not a package, but a loose collection of several packages18:45
Tm_Tshadeslayer: more precisely, it's just a name of folder in svn18:45
shadeslayerTm_T: im downloading the daily snapshots kde releases....18:45
Tm_Tthen ignore whole kdesupport thing, it's kdelibs and kdepimlibs first18:46
Tm_Tapachelogger: shame on me, I build kdesupport as a whole from svn ):18:47
shadeslayerTm_T: ok... what i will do after downloading those is svn up,the daily snapshots contain them .svn folders :D18:47
Tm_Tshadeslayer: why you download daily snapshots then if you're going to use svn? (:18:48
apacheloggerAll this constness equals madness...18:51
Tm_Tapachelogger: QOauth is where?18:52
apacheloggerTm_T: PPA18:52
apacheloggerTm_T: if you want to use U1 then you need the version from my PPA actually...18:52
apacheloggerupstreams qoauth has at least one bug and one rather silly behaviour18:53
apacheloggerboth patched in the PPA version18:53
Tm_Toh right18:53
Tm_TI might actually need to move away from my selfbuild qt now...18:54
apachelogger"Theoretically, this means there is a small chance that a UUID generated by createUuid() will not be unique. But it is a very small chance."18:55
apacheloggerso how does one create a real unique uuid with Qt -.-18:55
shadeslayerTm_T: well because SVN is slow as hell sometimes and keeps timing out,so download the daily snapshot and then update it19:00
shadeslayerTm_T: btw have you compiled Qtcreator?19:00
shadeslayerand do i need this : http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc ?19:01
apacheloggershadeslayer_: you do not need to, however you probably want it :)19:15
apachelogger[/usr/bin/akonadi_desktop-couch_resource] "Invalid rev format"19:16
apacheloggerwhat a load of space junk19:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok 19:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw suppose i install kde in /opt , do i still want it?19:17
apacheloggeralso I would not install it there :P19:18
apacheloggerunless you link it statically 19:18
apacheloggerotherwise /opt is just wrongish :P19:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok suppose i want to maintain 2 versions of KDE,the one officially supported from archives and kde svn19:19
shadeslayerwhere do i install kde svn then?19:19
apachelogger/usr/local for example19:19
apacheloggeror /usr/local/kde419:20
shadeslayerbulldog98: you probably have outdate code,rekonq working fine here19:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok ill keep that in mind, also,to install there what do i change in :  cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` ..19:20
bulldog98shadeslayer: ok look for that19:20
shadeslayerbulldog98: any particular thing that needs to be done to make it crash?19:21
bulldog98shadeslayer: opening an website form an other app19:21
shadeslayerno dbg packages :P19:22
bulldog98shadeslayer: crashed for you too?19:22
bulldog98so it can’t be a packaging issue19:23
bulldog98could it be kubuntu related?19:23
bulldog98maybe a bug in webkit?19:23
shadeslayerits working now :P19:24
shadeslayer( started with strace )19:24
shadeslayeryeah... definitely working now... maybe cache issue?19:25
Martiiniheyy  ,, Anyone know how to get unbanned on #ubuntu ?+19:25
shadeslayerMartiini: ask for the ban to be removed in #ubuntu-ops19:26
shadeslayerjussi: ^^19:26
MartiiniThing is ... they do not unban people on #ubuntu-ops .. I have been talking to them for 3 hours now .. and the result was that I was asked to leave and I  may have been banned on #ubuntu-ops19:27
shadeslayerMartiini: they actually do unban people if they think that its ok...19:28
shadeslayerits really up to the ops19:28
Martiinishadeslayer : , are they ... like REAL people ??19:29
Martiinisome nick made told me to read bunch of #ubuntu guidelines .. posted me links ,, asked me to agree .. and Im still banned19:29
bulldog98shadeslayer: for me it doesn’t work with strace either19:30
shadeslayerMartiini: you have to read them and adhere to them in other *buntu channels19:30
shadeslayerbulldog98: try refreshing the cache with kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental19:30
shadeslayeroh my...19:31
* shadeslayer just read logs of #ubuntu-ops19:31
MartiiniI was banned for "namecalling" and the #ubuntu admins will not unban me ... post links to read .. tell to adhere to guidelines .. but still will not unban .. Im guessing they are the kind of people who screw with others online for fun19:32
bulldog98shadeslayer: tryed #fluffy?19:32
shadeslayerbulldog98: hehe :D19:32
bulldog98shadeslayer: me was the first user on LT19:33
shadeslayerbulldog98: LT ?19:33
ScottKMartiini: I'm not sure how to solve your problem, but I'm reasonably certain this isn't the channel for it.19:33
apacheloggerMartiini: this is off topic here19:33
bulldog98shadeslayer: LinuxTag19:33
Martiinisome crazy "ikonia" has been given right to ban people on #ubuntu and she will not unban you ,, just screw with everyone19:33
shadeslayerbulldog98: ohhh the one with the pink tie ? :D19:33
bulldog98shadeslayer: yes19:34
shadeslayerMartiini: ikonia is a he...19:34
ScottKMartiini: This is really not the channel.19:34
shadeslayerbulldog98: awesome :)19:34
bulldog98shadeslayer: crashed even with rebuild19:34
bulldog98shadeslayer: rekonq19:34
bulldog98shadeslayer: not fluffy19:34
apacheloggerfirefox is default on fluffy :P19:34
shadeslayerbulldog98: did try uninstalling and reinstalling :)  19:34
apacheloggerfor very good reason as I choose to believe19:35
Martiinishadeslayer: , do You write software for "Kubuntu" ?19:35
shadeslayernot really....19:36
Martiini#kubuntu-devel is for software development .. or .. ?19:36
shadeslayernot much of a coder... 19:36
shadeslayerMartiini: yes this is where all kubuntu development takes place19:36
Martiiniis this OFFICIAL kubuntu team channel .. where the team work19:37
bulldog98shadeslayer: rekonq keeps crashing19:38
shadeslayerMartiini: #kubuntu for support of kubuntu19:38
shadeslayerbulldog98: got a stacktrace ?19:38
bulldog98shadeslayer: will test that19:39
shadeslayerbulldog98: anyways i think this is more of a upstream issue.. not with your packaging19:41
bulldog98shadeslayer: so I’ll poke adamj19:42
shadeslayeryeah.... with a big stick :P19:42
shadeslayerbulldog98: rekonq git used to be stable :P19:43
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shadeslayerTm_T: well the git version failed here :P19:47
shadeslayerbuilding the stable RC release19:47
Tm_Tshadeslayer: the whole qmake thing can be very tricky19:48
shadeslayerwhee... it builds and runs :)19:48
shadeslayerTm_T: any idea on getting it to pick up the docs from the packages i installed?19:48
Tm_Tno, sorry19:48
shadeslayerTm_T: btw suppose i want to insall in /usr/local/kde4 , what option do i parse to cmake?20:01
shadeslayerTm_T: btw suppose i want to insall in /usr/local/kde4 , what option do i parse to cmake?20:01
shadeslayersorrry for the double post20:01
shadeslayeromg omg omg... i have all deps for kdelibs :D20:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: Tm_T  should i build Qt from git as well?20:04
Tm_Tshadeslayer: definately no20:05
Tm_Tless you build the better20:05
shadeslayerTm_T: hmm.. and what about the custom install path?20:05
Tm_Tshadeslayer: have you read what techbase instructions say?20:05
shadeslayerTm_T: yes... they say that you need to add another user...20:06
shadeslayerbut i want the same user to be able to access kde svn and stable kde20:06
Tm_Tshadeslayer: there's also instructions how to use cmake20:07
Tm_Tshadeslayer: -DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=20:07
shadeslayerTm_T: ah ok20:07
Tm_Tshadeslayer: or in build dir: ccmake .20:07
shadeslayerthanks :D20:07
Tm_Tshadeslayer: really useful scripts & aliases: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc20:07
shadeslayerTm_T: oh yes about that script,do i add to bashrc ?20:08
Tm_Tshadeslayer: for example yes20:08
shadeslayer+ my account20:09
Tm_Tand edit it to your likings ofcourse20:09
shadeslayerTm_T: does it require my KDE checkout to be in ~/KDE ?20:10
Tm_Tno, you can edit it as you like20:10
Tm_Tofcourse there's no such requirements20:10
shadeslayerok so just run cmakekde after editing the path option20:11
Martiinishadeslayer: , Tm_T works in Finland ,, is that correct ?20:11
shadeslayerMartiini: stop that! :|20:11
Martiiniyou al lexist20:12
Martiiniall you people exist20:12
Martiinino point to play idiots .. computer freaks20:12
Tm_TMartiini: please stay in channel topic20:12
Martiiniwas that enough "namecalling" now ?20:13
shadeslayeroh my...20:13
Tm_Tyes it was well enough, now please behave20:13
MartiiniTm_T is FINNISH and so is LINUS TORVALDS20:14
MartiiniFINNISH saami computer freaks20:14
shadeslayerheh.. found a bug with quassel :P20:16
Martiinido the finnish develop KDE ?20:17
MartiiniI will never touch KDE again20:17
shadeslayerGood for us20:18
Martiinihalf of nicks are finnish in here20:18
Tm_Tshadeslayer: let me know the results when there's any (;20:57
shadeslayerhehe :D20:57
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1137661 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) A package must be trusted to be supported22:42
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
* apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna22:44
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I meant to ask you all sorts of things22:45
apacheloggerBut eventuall forgot them all :(22:45
apacheloggeroh rights!22:45
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: What is your opinion on foo( &h ); vs. foo(&h); vs. foo (&h);?22:46
apacheloggeralso there is http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets also there is http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qtgain22:46
JontheEchidnaI prefer foo(&h);22:46
apacheloggerme too :/22:46
apacheloggermaybe we should mention it as suggestion ;)22:47
* apachelogger thinks we need a "preferred practise" section or something22:47
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: kk, revuing22:50
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1137664 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Simplify boolean-returning functions22:50
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: wow, you got GG compiling without patches?22:53
apachelogger"They call me the oncoming storm!"22:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: actually I just had to apply a rather tiny change upstream and voila22:54
JontheEchidna"oh, and by anihilate you just meant beat them in a game of football" :D22:55
JontheEchidnaMatt's Doctor is really a codgerly ol' Time Lord underneath :P22:55
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I'm getting a WTF error pbuilding: http://paste.ubuntu.com/449382/22:56
* apachelogger likes the new doctor really22:56
apacheloggerbut david's is still my fav22:56
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: oh dear22:57
apacheloggerbzr driven development does not cut it either it seems22:57
* apachelogger is just no good at packaging anymore :(22:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: do qtgain meanwhile22:57
apacheloggerthere was a mismerge22:58
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: otherwise the packaging looks good. A little nitpick is that technically one needs debhelper 7.3.16 or greater for source format 3.0, and pkg-kde-tools 0.5.0 or higher for "--with kde"22:58
* apachelogger finds it sort of horrible how he needs to do merging so that not all the history gets imported TBH22:58
* apachelogger fixes that on the way22:59
apacheloggernew version coming up23:01
apacheloggerhold it23:01
apacheloggerthat is bonkers too ^^23:01
JontheEchidnaheh, qtgain is a bit... minimal. Not even a .desktop file until you gave it one23:01
apacheloggerah, even not bonkers23:01
* apachelogger was scared there a bit by the change in the debian/changelog ;)23:02
CIA-91[plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613220211-j9hvya9u00uodidc * debian/control fix assorted build-dep problems23:02
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: qtgain also features horrible UI (HIG and HCI-wise) :/23:04
* apachelogger would not have known how to operate it without having been told.23:04
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: do we have any guidelines on http://paste.ubuntu.com/449385/ vs http://paste.ubuntu.com/449386/ ?23:04
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: qtgain packaging looks perfect23:06
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: not really, that is no trivial thing to give a suggestion on either, in this praticular case it is obivous through the function name what you are doing. I imagine in other cases it might not be directly obvious what you are returning.23:06
apacheloggerMaybe just add a reminder "Be clear about your intentions at all times." this sort of covers this and similar stuff :)23:07
apacheloggerYay for perfect packaging \o/23:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: New gg should have landed in the meantime too.23:07
apacheloggervalorie: qtgain just got uploaded, if all goes well it should land in maverick within the next week or so23:10
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: Does anyone still review stuff on revu? I mean other than us doing KDE/Qt.23:11
valoriemaybe if a few people test it, there will be some more work on it23:11
apacheloggerThe list appears to be ever growing.23:11
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: dunno23:11
valoriesounds a bit rough around the edges23:12
JontheEchidnajust proves that kubuntu team is the best!23:12
apacheloggerThat is a known fact already, is it not? :D23:12
apacheloggersee topic :P23:12
apacheloggervalorie: Work it could use :) 23:12
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: GG looks good too23:20
* apachelogger hugs JontheEchidna23:21
apacheloggerthanks :)23:21
CIA-91[plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100613222448-9cbx5ifk2jyyf9qd * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu123:24
apacheloggerRiddell: ^23:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: btw, should you find some time -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KOfficeUserReview23:28
apacheloggerWe should get going with this, to make the most out of the input.23:29
* apachelogger thinks the current versions are way too much free-form23:29

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