| sylon | i installed the meer cat just to try it out.. although xfce is pretty much unuseable due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/586012 but yeah expected of such a pre alpha quality | 00:53 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 586012 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] XFCE system tray became unusable after libgtk upgrade" [High,Triaged] | 00:54 |
| sylon | maybe i will try out lucid in the mean time | 00:56 |
| DrHalan | sylon maybe try out gnome or kde? works fine for me | 00:57 |
| sylon | DrHalan: yea thats an option but not enough resources, maybe will try lxde | 00:58 |
| DrHalan | just saying. think those "small" DEs aren't maintained as good as Gnome for example | 00:58 |
| sylon | fair point but i have used kde and gnome in the past and my test pc doesnt have resources to run them, but yeah even on my main machine i use xfce | 01:00 |
| sylon | DrHalan: is it in a usable state mostly? like common apps, firefox/pidgin etc | 01:03 |
| DrHalan | yeah everything works fine | 01:03 |
| sylon | btw what are these pae kernels if i run 32bits | 01:04 |
| DrHalan | if you need more than 4GB of RAM you have to use those | 01:05 |
| DrHalan | because 32bit normally doesnt support more ram | 01:05 |
| sylon | what? so 32bit linux can support > 4GB with these kernels? | 01:09 |
| penguin42 | yep | 01:10 |
| penguin42 | assuming that your hardware can | 01:10 |
| DrHalan | and normally if your hardware can you can also run 64bit ^^ | 01:12 |
| sylon | i got a amd 64bit cpu but prefer using 32bit os | 01:15 |
| sylon | and i guess ill continue to use 32bit till i get more ram and mainstream drops 32bit | 01:15 |
| penguin42 | DrHalan: Although the reverse isn't true; e.g. this machine can only take 3GB RAM but can do 64bit | 01:16 |
| DrHalan | penguin42: yeah sure. | 01:17 |
| sylon | yea my laptop is limited to 4GB | 01:17 |
| DrHalan | sylon: what are you waitng for? the whole repository is compiled in 64-bit | 01:17 |
| sylon | DrHalan: well mainstream, yes i know theres 64bit repo but i use apps outside of the repo like flash plugin which is 32bit only and a few other things, i dont wanna use nspluginwrapper or whatever | 01:18 |
| DrHalan | there acutally is a 64bit flashplugin from adobe | 01:19 |
| Volkodav | use 64 bit flash | 01:19 |
| sylon | DrHalan: read news, they dropped it | 01:19 |
| DrHalan | i read it was discontiuned though... | 01:19 |
| Volkodav | still works | 01:19 |
| sylon | they had beta version, dropped for RTM | 01:19 |
| DrHalan | yeah well sucks... | 01:19 |
| sylon | i also like to use offfical firefox builds and not ubuntu ones, which only recently started to be 64bit nightlies for v4.0 in the future | 01:20 |
| DrHalan | mh i use chromium :P | 01:20 |
| Volkodav | sylon: what stops you | 01:21 |
| sylon | well i dont want to use it | 01:22 |
| sylon | unless i have to | 01:22 |
| Volkodav | from using offfical firefox builds and not ubuntu ones & | 01:22 |
| Volkodav | ? | 01:22 |
| sylon | oh that, i like to use the built in automatic updates, they are faster than ubuntu and in browser | 01:23 |
| Volkodav | we all use what we want - that's the freedom we have | 01:23 |
| sylon | yea i tried chromium, will come back to it when it was real ad blocking | 01:24 |
| DrHalan | "apt-get dist-upgrade" wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all? | 01:24 |
| sylon | does ubuntu kernel now use tux-on-ice patches? | 01:25 |
| DrHalan | sylon: there is an improved hibernate? | 01:29 |
| DrHalan | looking up tuxonice right now | 01:29 |
| sylon | i been useing tux on ice for years, it used to be called suspend2 | 01:30 |
| DrHalan | oh and where exactly is the difference? | 01:31 |
| sylon | i dont know, the built in one has never worked as well as this for me | 01:31 |
| sylon | my current laptop has uptime of 100 days - cause i only ever hibernate it, never had this kind of stability with built in suspend | 01:32 |
| DrHalan | for me neither hibernate nor suspend does work | 01:33 |
| DrHalan | suspend kinda does but after i resume my wlan is really slow | 01:33 |
| DrHalan | hope the new kernel improves that | 01:34 |
| sylon | my wlan automatically connects on resume and everything works | 01:34 |
| DrHalan | seems like tux on ice is also supports graphical hibernate? | 01:34 |
| DrHalan | yeah here too but the connectivity is really low afterwards.. kinda strange | 01:34 |
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| enav | hello i need some orientations..... this friday i was designed to migrate an entire office from Windows to Ubuntu... that is cool... but they want the office working like windows authentication model... i mean active directory to save users and apply administrative templates.... and so forth.... give me some links or ideas to implement ubuntu in my office | 04:04 |
| Volkodav | is there an option in installer for brtfs ? | 04:16 |
| Volkodav | btrfs* | 04:17 |
| alex_mayorga | how borked is alpha 1? | 04:49 |
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| edgy | Hi, I want to connect to another server using xdmcp, i tried tsclient and the option is disabled, looked for gdm and cannot find the option, how can I do that please? | 07:06 |
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| om26er | there are a few bugs which are milstoned to a EOL versions resetting the target milestone is fine? | 10:09 |
| vish | om26er: unless we are the team's admin or members it is better not to change milestones. you could ping the concerned team about the problem | 10:55 |
| vish | om26er: and probably it was a question for -bugs ;) | 10:56 |
| om26er_ | oh ok, and I asked in the wrong channel :) | 10:57 |
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| BUGabundo | morning | 11:31 |
| fosco_ | hi | 11:34 |
| yofel | great... there I'm searching for why plasma forgets my widgets after logout in kde 4.5 | 11:55 |
| yofel | turns out it doesn't | 11:55 |
| yofel | it just creates a new activity on every login and switches to that... | 11:55 |
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| DrHalan | is there anohter upgrade to xorg 1.8 now? | 12:49 |
| DrHalan | aah wait lucid had 1.7 not 1.6 | 12:59 |
| DrHalan | willl maveric update to x.org 1.9 at some point then?` | 12:59 |
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| nperry | Yes | 14:16 |
| * BUGa_vacantions unsubs from https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/indicator-application/+bug/527458 | 14:17 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 527458 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "please include status messages/tooltips" [Wishlist,Won't fix] | 14:17 |
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| cwillu | BUGa_vacantions, you don't give up on bugs | 14:35 |
| BUGa_vacantions | I sure do | 14:35 |
| BUGa_vacantions | I MUST clean my bug mail from worthless stuff | 14:36 |
| arand | DrHalan: It will indeed, as per the announcement on the mailing list. | 14:37 |
| DrHalan | thanks arand | 14:38 |
| DrHalan | 1.8 still not working for me | 14:45 |
| DrHalan | also grub boots kernel 2.6.32 | 14:45 |
| Ian_corne | 1.8 ruby you mean? | 14:45 |
| DrHalan | x.org 1.8 | 14:46 |
| Ian_corne | oh | 14:49 |
| Ian_corne | it works for me | 14:49 |
| BUGa_vacantions | omg http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html | 15:32 |
| BUGa_vacantions | no more 64bits flash | 15:32 |
| Ian_corne | for now | 15:32 |
| Daekdroom | not-so-new news | 15:32 |
| Ian_corne | not even for windows 7 | 15:32 |
| Ian_corne | so i dunno | 15:32 |
| Ian_corne | or is it? | 15:32 |
| Daekdroom | No 64bits at all for any OS for now | 15:33 |
| Ian_corne | I'm not too worried | 15:33 |
| Daijoubu | Hello, i just tried the Alpha 1 on a live USB stick, but there was no /dev/dvb/ folder.Is the support for mantis drivers removed from the kernel? | 15:36 |
| yofel | this plasma memory leak is getting annoying | 15:42 |
| yofel | 27063 yofel 20 0 2430m 1.5g 10m D 7 40.8 31:43.17 plasma-desktop | 15:42 |
| * yofel wonders what actually leaks memory there | 15:42 | |
| BUGa_vacantions | !valgrind | 15:43 |
| BUGa_vacantions | bad bot | 15:43 |
| yofel | I know | 15:43 |
| yofel | but I'll first have to remove the widgets one by one to find the one that's broken, or if it's plasma itself | 15:44 |
| BUGa_vacantions | bbl | 15:51 |
| Daijoubu | Is the support for mantis driver devices removed from the kernel in Maverick? | 15:59 |
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| yofel | Daijoubu: which driver exactly? the 'mantis' driver is there in 2.6.35. Not sure about the alpha1 disk as that has 2.6.34 | 16:13 |
| Ian_corne | my laptop battery icond doesn't change the "fullness" anymmore | 16:21 |
| Ian_corne | it just shows full | 16:21 |
| Ian_corne | and i have to click to see how many minutes left | 16:21 |
| funkyHat | anyone have a workaround for fglrx and linux 2.6.35? | 16:56 |
| knittl | my xorg uses a lot of cpu after some time. am i the only one? | 18:06 |
| knittl | everything gets really sluggish too | 18:07 |
| ripps | My computer has been completely freezing recently, but I haven't found anything on past dmesg logs about it. Is there someway to capture some information before one of them happens? | 18:12 |
| Ian_corne | ripps: ati? | 18:12 |
| ripps | Ian_corne: yes | 18:12 |
| Ian_corne | lucid? | 18:12 |
| ripps | radeon 9600 pro, maverick | 18:12 |
| Ian_corne | I've changed my lucid box to the OS driver because it kept locking up | 18:13 |
| Ian_corne | it works really good | 18:13 |
| ripps | Ian_corne: I'm not using fglrx, it doesn't support my card | 18:13 |
| Ian_corne | oh | 18:13 |
| Ian_corne | well, sorry no experience with locking up on maverick with ati | 18:13 |
| Ian_corne | only got my nvidia and intel box to maverick so far | 18:13 |
| ripps | it's not really locking up. It's like a complete system failure. my monitor turns off my keyboard's numlock light freezes and the harddrive light on desktop stops blinking | 18:14 |
| ripps | I've heard that there might be some agp issues with the recent radeon drm and drivers. | 18:15 |
| Ian_corne | ouch | 18:16 |
| Ian_corne | What i've had was just a freeze | 18:16 |
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| knittl | Xorg 42 % cpu | 18:36 |
| knittl | wtf? | 18:36 |
| knittl | i'm using nvidia-current as driver, could that be the cause? | 18:36 |
| Ian_corne | Did you do some upgrade? | 18:38 |
| Ian_corne | s | 18:38 |
| Ian_corne | to 1.8 | 18:38 |
| knittl | there's a lot of xserver-xorg packages kept back from updating | 18:39 |
| Ian_corne | The following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-core: Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6 which is a virtual package. | 18:40 |
| Ian_corne | The following actions will resolve these dependencies: | 18:40 |
| Ian_corne | Remove the following packages: | 18:40 |
| Ian_corne | nvidia-current | 18:40 |
| Ian_corne | So i guess it could dirtify things | 18:40 |
| knittl | sucks | 18:41 |
| knittl | i could test nouveau though | 18:41 |
| knittl | could it be that firefox hogs up xorg somehow? | 18:48 |
| matrixa1 | first thing I did when I installed lucid was completely blacklisting nouveau, then getting latest beta from nvidia | 18:58 |
| matrixa1 | worked like a charm | 18:59 |
| knittl | why is everybody talking about lucid? meerkat is the next version | 18:59 |
| matrixa1 | because meerkat also has nouveau as default | 18:59 |
| yofel | erm, nvidia-current will blacklist nouveau when you install it | 19:00 |
| yofel | and it works perfectly fine here (256) | 19:00 |
| penguin42 | what is 'broadcast preferences' supposed to be? (It doesn't start for me) | 19:00 |
| matrixa1 | yofel, 256.29? | 19:00 |
| yofel | matrixa1: yes | 19:01 |
| yofel | the x-updates ppa has it | 19:01 |
| matrixa1 | looks like from now on my life will become a tad bit easier | 19:02 |
| Sarvatt | the nvidia-current in x-updates has a little problem though, the modaliases aren't getting extracted right because the format changed so it wont show up in jockey for most people | 19:22 |
| Sarvatt | but if its installed already it upgrades fine and you can still install with a package manager if you just make sure you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf afterwards, sudo nvidia-xconfig if not | 19:23 |
| BUGabundo | you mean X builds are done? | 19:23 |
| BUGabundo | I can upgrade at will Sarvatt? | 19:23 |
| Sarvatt | i dont think tseliot ever uploaded it to maverick :( | 19:24 |
| BUGabundo | The following packages have been kept back: | 19:24 |
| BUGabundo | xserver-xorg{a} xserver-xorg-core{a} xserver-xorg-input-evdev{a} xserver-xorg-input-synaptics{a} xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm{a} xserver-xorg-video-ark{a} xserver-xorg-video-chips{a} xserver-xorg-video-cirrus{a} xserver-xorg-video-fbdev{a} xserver-xorg-video-i128{a} xserver-xorg-video-intel{a} xserver-xorg-video-mach64{a} xserver-xorg-video-mga{a} xserver-xorg-video-neomagic{a} xserver-xorg-video-nv{a} xserver-xorg | 19:24 |
| BUGabundo | {a} xserver-xorg-video-tseng{a} xserver-xorg-video-v4l{a} xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware{a} xserver-xorg-video-voodoo{a} | 19:24 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 19:24 |
| Sarvatt | all it needs is a no change rebuild, you can apt-get source nvidia-current, cd to the directory, dch -i to bump the version, and debuild -uc -us -b to make the debs | 19:25 |
| Sarvatt | then install the debs and you can upgrade fine | 19:25 |
| BUGabundo | ehehe | 19:26 |
| BUGabundo | ill wait till aptitude says its ok | 19:26 |
| BUGabundo | you guys are going to make it direct upload right? | 19:27 |
| Sarvatt | actually no you can't do what I just said, you need to build against the newer xserver :) | 19:27 |
| Sarvatt | i can't upload stuff | 19:27 |
| Sarvatt | or i would have done it a week ago | 19:27 |
| BUGabundo | why can't you do it ? | 19:28 |
| BUGabundo | lost privs to archive? | 19:28 |
| Sarvatt | never had it :) | 19:29 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 19:30 |
| BUGabundo | start working for it :) | 19:30 |
| BUGabundo | with package only permitions you should be fine | 19:30 |
| ripps | *sigh* I want to try out Unity, but it hoplessly crashes in Ubuntu. There seems to be a problem deep in glib or gtk. | 19:33 |
| gord | ripps, whats the error you are getting that makes you believe that the problem is in glib/gtk? | 19:59 |
| ripps | gord: backtrace led to glib. Check out #592920 | 20:00 |
| ripps | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/592920 | 20:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 592920 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity crashes during startup" [Undecided,New] | 20:00 |
| Daekdroom | !info unity | 20:00 |
| ubottu | unity (source: unity): Unity Interface for Ubuntu Netbook Edition. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.8-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 79 kB, installed size 776 kB | 20:01 |
| gord | actually no its a bad x window error. all the gtk warnings are indicators loading. could you attach the output of glxinfo to the bug as well? | 20:02 |
| ripps | gord: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50279359/glxinfo | 20:04 |
| gord | ripps, looks like you don't have the GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two extension which iirc we require to run | 20:08 |
| ripps | ...okay... what can I do about it? | 20:08 |
| gord | if your hardware supports the extension (if its old, it won't) then you could try installing the ati binary drivers | 20:09 |
| gord | sorry amd drivers, its amd now not ati | 20:09 |
| ripps | gord: sorry, too old. radeon 9600 pro (rv350) | 20:09 |
| gord | ripps, yeah sorry, thats fairly old. doubt it supports non power of two textures at all :( | 20:10 |
| ripps | that seems kinda dumb, unity should be capable on running older hardware. alot of people use r300-r500 ati cards | 20:11 |
| Volkodav | is there an option in installer to choose btrfs ? | 20:12 |
| gord | ripps, unity is designed to run on netbooks not desktops. ala: we target the features that are offered to us by gpu's used in netbooks. we are not targeting older hardware sorry | 20:13 |
| * ripps goes to the corner an pouts | 20:13 | |
| ripps | is it possible that a fork could be made that works with older hardware? There alot of cool features with it that I think would be great on desktops, not just netbooks | 20:14 |
| knittl | nouveau is crap, it does not support my 1920x1200 | 20:14 |
| om26er | better than -nv atleast | 20:15 |
| knittl | it worked with nv, but now i only have 1600x1200 | 20:15 |
| knittl | and second screen is blank (worked with nvidia-current) | 20:16 |
| penguin42 | curious, just noticed when I click on the button at the top-right to shutdown my maverick guest it draws a little red highlight around my terminal launcher on my panel - I'm sure there is a reason - it looks more deliberate than bug | 20:16 |
| knittl | penguin42: my pidgin launcher is highlighted too | 20:17 |
| penguin42 | curious isn't it | 20:18 |
| knittl | the monitor tool doesn't like my nouveau | 20:18 |
| * penguin42 disappears | 20:18 | |
| knittl | how can i find out my current graphics driver? | 20:18 |
| ripps | hmm... it seems that it might be possible to work around the GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two in Gallium, by having it run through a softpipe. | 20:19 |
| yofel | knittl: check which one is used in Xorg.0.log | 20:25 |
| knittl | yofel: must be nouveau, because glxgears shows something :> | 20:26 |
| knittl | hrm, what do i need to install to have full nouveau? | 20:26 |
| knittl | right now i only get 1600x1200 | 20:27 |
| ripps | actually, yes. I see from someone testing r300g, That their mesa supports non_power_of_two. | 20:27 |
| knittl | and the right side of the screen is left! | 20:27 |
| yofel | dunno, IIRC you only need xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and libdrm-nouvau1 | 20:28 |
| knittl | hm, it still tries to load nvidia :-/ | 20:28 |
| yofel | knittl: deleted your xorg.conf? | 20:28 |
| knittl | yofel: yes | 20:28 |
| yofel | nouveau doesn't need one | 20:28 |
| knittl | moved it to xorg.conf.xinerama | 20:28 |
| yofel | then I don't get why it would use nvidia o.O | 20:29 |
| bjsnider | knittl, if you put the horizsync/vertrefresh values in the xorg.conf you will get your native resolution | 20:29 |
| yofel | knittl: and you *removed* nvidia? | 20:29 |
| knittl | xorg log says »can't load module nvidia« | 20:29 |
| knittl | yofel: yes, i deleted it to be able to update all packages | 20:29 |
| yofel | odd then | 20:29 |
| knittl | i'll reinstall nouveau then try to kill x and restart it | 20:30 |
| knittl | hm no, still weird | 20:30 |
| knittl | bjsnider: ehm ok, how can i get a xorg.conf back without using the .xinerama version for nvidia? | 20:30 |
| knittl | and how do i know the values for hsync and vrefresh | 20:31 |
| knittl | i mean, i could just install nvidia-current again and remove all xserver-xorg-video-* packages :D | 20:33 |
| yofel | no need to remove them, just install nvidia-current and reboot | 20:33 |
| knittl | yofel: installing nvidia-current removes them | 20:34 |
| knittl | dependency issues ^^ | 20:34 |
| knittl | and do i have to reboot? isn't it enough to restart X? | 20:34 |
| knittl | maybe that's the only problem | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | PLEASE use jockey to do that | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | don't use apt | 20:34 |
| BUGabundo | you need to downgrade | 20:35 |
| BUGabundo | the current package needs a nochange rebuild | 20:35 |
| BUGabundo | at least from what I recall of what Sarvatt sair | 20:35 |
| BUGabundo | *said | 20:35 |
| Daijoubu | Is support for mantis driver devices removed from the kernel of Maverick ? | 20:36 |
| knittl | BUGabundo: jockey never worked reliably for me | 20:36 |
| BUGabundo | it should | 20:36 |
| BUGabundo | did you file bugs for it ? | 20:36 |
| knittl | BUGabundo: so how long will it take for the packages to be updated | 20:36 |
| knittl | i'll try a system reboot | 20:36 |
| knittl | not an x restart | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | ask him | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | or better | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | tseliot | 20:37 |
| knittl | apt worked reasonably well for me in the past | 20:37 |
| knittl | at least to install nvidia-current | 20:37 |
| knittl | and jockey was broken a lot when the -modaliases packages were out of date | 20:37 |
| * knittl rebooting | 20:37 | |
| Daijoubu | No one knows? | 20:38 |
| yofel | knittl: the new nvidia-current package in the x-updates ppa (256.29) won't remove them | 20:38 |
| yofel | Daijoubu: that's a bit hard to say, the driver is there, maybe some fw issue? got the kernel log? | 20:39 |
| yofel | Daijoubu: and did you try a daily build now or still just alpha1? | 20:40 |
| Daijoubu | yofel no i used Live USb stick.If the driver is active there is a /dev/dvb/ folder, but there isn't such.If mantis is not removed it should work | 20:40 |
| Daijoubu | yofel only Alpha1, i think that after updating on live usb, after reboot it erases any changes | 20:41 |
| yofel | if it's a persistent usb image it won't forget all updates, but I don't think you can upgrade the kernel | 20:42 |
| yofel | !daily | 20:42 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 20:42 |
| Daijoubu | thank si will try that | 20:42 |
| bjsnider | knittl, used to be sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg would get you a plain xorg.conf. may be it still does | 20:43 |
| Daijoubu | yofel is there any contious effort for detecting/installing the dvb devices with the mantis driver in the kernel, or additional steps are required to make things work? | 20:43 |
| yofel | no idea | 20:44 |
| Daijoubu | yofel which link should i use?! | 20:44 |
| yofel | the second one, daily-live | 20:46 |
| Ian_corne | anyone else have flash problems in google-chrome-unstable ? | 20:46 |
| Ian_corne | it's annoying, flash doesn't work in google-chrome-unstable, does work in firefox | 20:47 |
| Ian_corne | and it does work in google-chrome-unstable on my other box | 20:47 |
| Ian_corne | purge and reinstall didn't fix it | 20:48 |
| knittl | ok, looks way better now | 20:49 |
| knittl | fsck took a while to run | 20:49 |
| knittl | now let's try the second screen | 20:50 |
| knittl | OH MY | 20:50 |
| knittl | woooot | 20:50 |
| knittl | i plugged it in and it came to life | 20:50 |
| knittl | in full resolution | 20:50 |
| knittl | wtf, now this is great | 20:50 |
| BUGabundo | knittl: calm down :) | 20:50 |
| knittl | no, this is incredible | 20:50 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: chromium from daily ppa works fine with latest flash | 20:51 |
| BUGabundo | it does die a lot | 20:51 |
| Ian_corne | I'm gonna check that now | 20:52 |
| bjsnider | what version of flash? | 20:52 |
| Ian_corne | and google-chrome-unstable also has the latest flash | 20:52 |
| knittl | i can even rotate the screen. woohooo | 20:52 |
| Ian_corne | but it just shows a grey box | 20:52 |
| BUGabundo | bjsnider: the new one | 20:52 |
| BUGabundo | 10.1 | 20:52 |
| BUGabundo | knittl: rotaion on nvidia? | 20:53 |
| BUGabundo | that's a first | 20:53 |
| knittl | BUGabundo: no, nouveau | 20:53 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 20:53 |
| BUGabundo | yeah that works | 20:53 |
| BUGabundo | just don't try any fancy 3Ds | 20:53 |
| knittl | that driver now works better than nvidia-current | 20:53 |
| knittl | 1300 frames in 5 seconds seem ok | 20:53 |
| BUGabundo | what?!!! | 20:53 |
| bjsnider | ah, no it does not | 20:53 |
| BUGabundo | no it doesn't | 20:53 |
| BUGabundo | don't make me like wanna try it | 20:53 |
| Ian_corne | you won't get descent stuff in google earth either :p | 20:53 |
| knittl | BUGabundo: that's only glxgears | 20:54 |
| BUGabundo | $ glxgears -fullscreen | 20:54 |
| BUGabundo | 1084 frames in 5.0 seconds | 20:54 |
| knittl | even ttys are in a beautiful small resolution now | 20:54 |
| BUGabundo | 90fps in compiz benchmark | 20:54 |
| BUGabundo | yeah, ttys look nicer | 20:55 |
| BUGabundo | and boot is faster | 20:55 |
| knittl | 28 frames in 5.2 seconds :D | 20:55 |
| knittl | but fullscreen here is 3840x1200 | 20:55 |
| BUGabundo | eheheheeheheheh | 20:56 |
| knittl | maximized window on 1920x1200 is 55 frames | 20:56 |
| BUGabundo | HOLLYYYY MACARONI | 20:56 |
| Ian_corne | $ glxgears -fullscreen | 20:56 |
| Ian_corne | 269 frames in 5.0 seconds | 20:56 |
| Ian_corne | OHYEAH | 20:56 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: ppooooorrrr you | 20:56 |
| knittl | not too fast, but i okey :D | 20:56 |
| Ian_corne | Intel baby! | 20:56 |
| BUGabundo | hahahahaha | 20:56 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: how about you on kde? | 20:56 |
| BUGabundo | I remember someone in here having a SLI | 20:57 |
| BUGabundo | who was it ? | 20:57 |
| knittl | hm, blender on both screens lags a bit, but it's still usable for me | 20:57 |
| knittl | haha, this is bigtime fun | 20:58 |
| arand | Haven't got any updates for a day or so, is there some arbitrary freeze going on or if my apt misbehaving? | 20:58 |
| Ian_corne | there's updates | 20:59 |
| Ian_corne | in the x thingy | 20:59 |
| Ian_corne | but it's breaking :p | 20:59 |
| knittl | the only stupid thing with 1920x1200 + 1920x1080 is, that i can move my mouse outside the monitor on the smaller one | 21:00 |
| Ian_corne | yeah | 21:00 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 21:01 |
| Ian_corne | yar | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | but you can also place them exactly as IRL | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | not just virtually side by side | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | overlaping is a dope | 21:01 |
| knittl | yes, but that doesn't change stuff ^^ | 21:01 |
| knittl | i could still move outside | 21:01 |
| knittl | and they are virtually placed the exact same way | 21:02 |
| === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity | ||
| knittl | bottom edge aligned, top edge not | 21:02 |
| arand | I think I pulled in most of x a day ago, since then, nuffink. | 21:02 |
| knittl | muahhaa, i never thought nouveau will work so well | 21:03 |
| Ian_corne | it works well for 2d | 21:04 |
| knittl | it even works well enough for 3d | 21:04 |
| Ian_corne | I don' tknow how it peforms for full hd vids for example | 21:04 |
| knittl | oh, i could test | 21:04 |
| knittl | need to know it anyway | 21:04 |
| knittl | where's the sintel trailer? | 21:05 |
| arand | knittl: Wha? Even compositing? | 21:05 |
| knittl | arand: i use plain metacity | 21:05 |
| arand | ah | 21:05 |
| Ian_corne | compositing works with noveau | 21:05 |
| knittl | sintel trailer in 1080p plays without problems | 21:06 |
| arand | Ian_corne: Reasonable as well? | 21:06 |
| knittl | cpu usage between 30 and 60 % | 21:06 |
| Ian_corne | arand: I'm sorry i can't really give a clear answer | 21:06 |
| Ian_corne | my box is so old | 21:06 |
| Ian_corne | i'm happy if it runs anything :D | 21:06 |
| arand | :) | 21:07 |
| BUGabundo | knittl: big buck bunny ? | 21:09 |
| knittl | that's on my external drive | 21:09 |
| knittl | sintel trailer is in my downloads folder | 21:09 |
| BUGabundo | heh | 21:15 |
| BUGabundo | I always have BBB on hand :) | 21:15 |
| knittl | hehe | 21:16 |
| Ian_corne | BBB? | 21:16 |
| knittl | big buck bunny | 21:16 |
| knittl | new sintel renders are just awesome | 21:17 |
| knittl | stunning | 21:17 |
| Daijoubu | yofel, well no dev/dvb/ folder again, what long file should i look at or pastebin? o-o | 21:19 |
| Daijoubu | *log | 21:20 |
| Ian_corne | BUGabundo: chromium does work | 21:32 |
| Ian_corne | it annoys me :( | 21:32 |
| yofel | Daijoubu: does dmesg mention the driver? | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: use it instead | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | blobs suck anyway | 21:32 |
| Ian_corne | what does google-chrome have as advantage? | 21:33 |
| yofel | knittl: about compositing, it does work here, but about half of my kwin effects don't work | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: nothing ? | 21:33 |
| Ian_corne | ok :p | 21:34 |
| yofel | but better than nothing at least | 21:34 |
| knittl | yofel: i only used kwin once, when metacity was broken | 21:34 |
| knittl | i hated it :D | 21:34 |
| Ian_corne | BUGabundo: the icon is yellow/red :p | 21:34 |
| yofel | well, kwin is KDE, either you love or you hate it :P | 21:34 |
| Ian_corne | instead of blue white | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: otoh chromium builds from fta are done to match each release of ubuntu, you do have some limited support | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | works nicer with flash, codecs, etc | 21:35 |
| knittl | yofel: i'm on the hate side ;) | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | AND no phone home :) | 21:35 |
| yofel | heh | 21:35 |
| knittl | although some apps are too simple in gnome | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | I like blue :D | 21:35 |
| yofel | well, I think compiz won't work perfectly too with nouveau, but most things should work | 21:35 |
| Ian_corne | BUGabundo: I don't mind phone home | 21:36 |
| Ian_corne | unlike others, I like targeted adds | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | its not that | 21:36 |
| Ian_corne | if I'm to view ads anyways | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | you still get those | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | wait... what ads? | 21:36 |
| Ian_corne | I don't run adblock unless it blocks the site from viewing correctly | 21:36 |
| Ian_corne | boo, chromium can only import from ff | 21:40 |
| Ian_corne | not from google-chrome | 21:40 |
| * BUGabundo likes https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/aeoigbhkilbllfomkmmilbfochhlgdmh | 21:40 | |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: erk risc a copy profile? | 21:40 |
| Ian_corne | I won't | 21:41 |
| Ian_corne | don't want to break flash again :p | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | if it does just make a new profile | 21:41 |
| Ian_corne | I'm scared! | 21:42 |
| * BUGabundo feeds Ian_corne with some placebo pills | 21:47 | |
| Daijoubu | yofel, i can't find anything that makes sense for the device, with lspci -vvn the device is listed as "04:05.0 0480: 1822:4e35 (rev 01), Subsystem: 153b:1179,Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-, | 21:50 |
| Daijoubu | gosh when will linux have something as simple as hardware manager in windows -_-'' | 21:51 |
| DanaG | try "update-pciids" | 21:51 |
| yofel | err... then I'm out of ideas, I'm not a kernel expert, you should file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux' and select 'regression-potential' when asked about regressions. | 21:52 |
| Daijoubu | yofel, why there's not strategy for dvb devices in ubuntu? I think in OpenSuse or Mandriva forgot which one, you can chose to install your card with GUI, and even though my device was not installed by default i was able to make it work with the gui with 3 clicks | 21:55 |
| Daijoubu | DanaG, i did this, emm what's this supposed to do? | 21:56 |
| yofel | err.. please don't ask ME, I don't know much about dvb cards, the only one I have works perfectly fine in lucid, and I didn't try maverick there yet | 21:56 |
| Daijoubu | yofel, yours works out of the box? | 21:57 |
| yofel | yes, I only have to set up the channel list in kaffeine | 21:58 |
| Daijoubu | :/ | 21:58 |
| Daijoubu | ok then can someone take a look at this page please http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_S2_PCI_HD_CI | 21:58 |
| Daijoubu | it says that "Mantis driver is included in kernel version => 2.6.33-rc6." | 21:59 |
| yofel | well, there is a 'mantis' module, but modinfo only says "description: MANTIS driver" | 22:00 |
| yofel | tried loading the module by hand? | 22:00 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/mabenbhpjlchigbbpafligkdnlhjbmel?hl=en LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL | 22:01 |
| Ian_corne | :p | 22:01 |
| yofel | see, nothing is more than nothing :D | 22:02 |
| Daijoubu | yofel, huh that seamed to work i think o-o can't install Me Tv from software center though, no install button | 22:02 |
| DanaG | Daijoubu: what that's supposed to do is to give you names for things. | 22:02 |
| Daijoubu | never mind i will try Kaffeine | 22:03 |
| yofel | *sigh*, when will the text colors be finally fixed in webkit, with my dark theme SC is almost unusable as some text has the same color as the background... | 22:05 |
| Ian_corne | same with eclipse | 22:06 |
| yofel | actually any webkit stuff is broken like that, like rekonq | 22:07 |
| Ian_corne | Aren't there some global values that apps can use, based on the theme? | 22:09 |
| Ian_corne | It's weird that this is still an issue | 22:09 |
| yofel | well, it works mostly, only the text color seems to be hardcoded in webkit | 22:11 |
| gnomefreak | it worked ;) | 22:24 |
| gnomefreak | well not really | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 22:29 |
| gnomefreak | instead of saving 100+ backgrounds it only saved the one that i had in use in .gconf | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | 1400 0 0 1748K 2.5G 1.8G 0K 0K 45% nautilus | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | did nautilus start leaking!?!?! | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | sure tis a 4k images dir | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | but still | 22:43 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| Ian_corne | BUGabundo: it's all the tumbs probably | 22:58 |
| Ian_corne | go to another dir and check if it goes down | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | now I'm the one afraid | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | need it to finish | 22:59 |
| gnomefreak | ok my day is done ;) | 23:17 |
| gnomefreak | almost | 23:17 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: the daily DVD images are they alternate or live or does it matter? none tell me what installer it is | 23:23 |
| gnomefreak | example http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/dvd/current/ | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | both | 23:24 |
| gnomefreak | 1 dvd contains both? | 23:24 |
| * gnomefreak likeing this | 23:25 | |
| BUGabundo | yes | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | that's why I usually sync the DVDs and cdlive | 23:25 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: makes sence | 23:28 |
| gnomefreak | sense | 23:28 |
| * psusi loves being able to pick up his running root volume and move it to another disk on the fly | 23:29 | |
| gnomefreak | ok now i think that covers today, smoke and see if i forgot anything that cant wait until tomorrow | 23:31 |
| ajmitch | sigh at NZ mirrors being ~2 weeks out of date | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | ahahah ajmitch | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | yeah that always happens | 23:34 |
| ajmitch | well, one of them is out of date | 23:34 |
| ajmitch | nz2.a.u.c seems ok | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | that part of the world seems to lack some serious bw | 23:35 |
| Ian_corne | ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omh8Ito-05M | 23:35 |
| Ian_corne | lol | 23:35 |
| Ian_corne | oops | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_corne: aaaaaah | 23:36 |
| BUGabundo | ahaha I'm still lauthing | 23:37 |
| gnomefreak | it seems the alt. isos are back up but they are still oversized. i suspect mon. or tues. they will be puylled off page again | 23:40 |
| * gnomefreak sees pattern :) | 23:40 | |
| gnomefreak | damn | 23:46 |
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