[00:00] <drubin> my wireless is slower then accessing it over GPRS
[00:00] <paultag> drubin, it's now filled with more RHEL servers then I can count with more VPSs then I can count
[00:00] <paultag> drubin, and I have full sudo on all the boxes >:D
[00:00] <drubin> wtf you work as a sys admin are you finiished studying?
[00:00] <paultag> drubin, no
[00:00] <drubin> kk
[00:00] <paultag> drubin, just a summer gig. They saw my resume and head hunted me
[00:00] <drubin> just thought I missed something
[00:01] <paultag> drubin, nah
[00:01] <paultag> drubin, they gave me a kickass laptop :3
[00:01] <stlsaint> paultag: hehe, thats where you work?
[00:01] <drubin> paultag: that is a pic of a chick! what happened over the summer
[00:01] <paultag> stlsaint, yup
[00:01] <paultag> drubin, hahaha, that's a stock photo
[00:01] <paultag> drubin, if they showed the real unix admins no one would look at it
[00:01] <paultag> stlsaint, we call that the bridge :)
[00:01] <drubin> paultag: true!
[00:01] <drubin> lolz paultag
[00:02] <paultag> drubin, it's kickass
[00:02] <yvan300> paultag, though u were gonna take a nap???
[00:02] <paultag> yvan300, yeah, but then drubin ping'd me, and we are having a nice conversation
[00:02] <drubin> any how any one have access point experience
[00:02] <paultag> drubin, no :/
[00:02] <drubin> I am out of ideas why ssh lags... but has a ping latency of like 0.1ms
[00:02] <yvan300> :|
[00:03] <drubin> paultag.sleep(enoughTimeToMakeHimHappy());
[00:03] <paultag> drubin, :)
[00:03] <drubin> paultag: I am off to watch something before bed any one then tomrrow I will debug the stupid AP maybe it is faulty
[00:03] <drubin> cheers
[00:03] <paultag> oh drubin
[00:03] <paultag> drubin, this is our little thing on the datacenter
[00:03] <paultag> drubin, The machine room houses over 800 computer servers supporting both Academic and Administrative functions, as well as all their supporting equipment,  in a secured area staffed 24/7. It has 150 tons of air conditioning that maintains all equipment running at normal temperatures.  It also has a UPS (uninterrupted power supply) that mantains a 30 minute full load battery backup that protects all the computer systems in the event of
[00:03] <paultag>  a power failure or power spike. Their is also a 1500 KVW  generator that will support the Data Center in a prolonged outage if necessary.
[00:04] <paultag> fuck yeahhhh
[00:04] <paultag> all pressurized as well
[00:04] <stlsaint> paultag: what does the company do?
[00:04] <paultag> stlsaint, teaching
[00:04] <yvan300> paultag, this sounds amazing
[00:04] <paultag> stlsaint, Boston College
[00:04] <paultag> yvan300, it's my datacenter :)
[00:04] <stlsaint> aye
[00:04] <paultag> cheers drubin :)
[00:05] <paultag> OK, well I'm off
[00:05] <yvan300> paultag, i swear you're the luckiest guy alive, have you created your dream house yet?
[00:05] <paultag> later stlsaint, drubin, yvan300
[00:05] <paultag> yvan300, dude, i'm not lucky
[00:05] <paultag> yvan300, I'm good
[00:05] <stlsaint> paultag: l8er
[00:05] <paultag> later stlsaint
[00:05] <paultag> cheerio *
[00:05] <yvan300> paultag, yeah later man
[00:09] <zkriesse> yvan300: hahah!
[00:10] <zkriesse> paultag: that link was awesome
[00:10] <paultag> zkriesse, link?
[00:10] <paultag> zkriesse, Ohhhhh the yvan300 one
[00:10] <paultag> zkriesse, yeah , yvan300 decided to be an ass that day. I think he cried after
[00:11] <zkriesse> paultag: it was hilarious
[00:11] <paultag> zkriesse, why thank you
[00:11] <yvan300> paultag, dude, why?
[00:11] <paultag> now, off to bed for real
[00:11] <paultag> yvan300, shits and giggles?
[00:11] <paultag> dude u teabag my nuts
[00:11] <paultag> kk, 'later all
[00:11] <yvan300> paultag, WHAT????
[00:11] <zkriesse> LOL
[00:11] <paultag> for real
[00:11] <collinp> paultag: dude u teabag my nuts
[00:12] <collinp> Haha, I remember that.
[00:12] <paultag> collinp, http://www.qdb.us/297078
[00:12] <yvan300> paultag, stop it , come on man
[00:13] <paultag> ye
[00:13] <paultag> well I'm off anywho
[00:13] <zkriesse> that's freakin hilarious
[00:13] <zkriesse> collinp: ping
[00:13] <ekseniks> hey guys last thing before i go to bed... is there a way to have a button that activates my screen saver?
[00:13] <yvan300> zkriesse, yes, it is
[00:14] <collinp> zkriesse: Pong.
[00:14] <paultag> ekseniks, gnome-screensaver-command -l
[00:14] <zkriesse> collinp: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnansweredPostsTeam
[00:14] <paultag> ekseniks, put that in a launch script
[00:14] <zkriesse> more importantly the meeting time header
[00:14] <collinp> Nicely done.
[00:14] <ekseniks> ta
[00:15] <zkriesse> collinp: next time you need to change it go to the header page and just change the time
[00:15] <zkriesse> collinp: need a link for the time converter?
[00:15] <paultag> that looks familiar zkriesse ....
[00:15] <zkriesse> collinp: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html is what you use
[00:15] <zkriesse> paultag: hmm?
[00:16] <paultag> I've seen that header before
[00:16] <paultag> hummmm
[00:16] <zkriesse> ah
[00:16] <paultag> no matter
[00:16] <paultag> looks great
[00:18] <paultag> awwwwww
[00:18] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[00:18] <zkriesse> lol
[00:18]  * zkriesse wants ops too!
[00:18] <paultag> he was supposed to kick yvan300
[00:18] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[00:18] <zkriesse> fine i'll kick him
[00:18] <paultag> zkriesse, you have a snowball's chance in hell for that
[00:18] <zkriesse> paultag: shutup
[00:19] <paultag> :D
[00:19] <zkriesse> LOL
[00:19] <paultag> DarkwingDuck, nice :)
[00:19] <DarkwingDuck> paultag: :P
[00:19] <paultag> :)
[00:19] <zkriesse> paultag: why do i have a little chance dude?
[00:20] <paultag> zkriesse, because irc ops is something rarely given out to a new member
[00:20] <yvan300> paultag, that's why i play rambow in ur mom's forest
[00:20] <zkriesse> yvan300: shut up dude
[00:20] <paultag> zkriesse, you have to be around for at least a year, and never ask for it :)
[00:20] <zkriesse> ah
[00:20] <zkriesse> I see
[00:20] <paultag> zkriesse, that's how I got +o
[00:20] <yvan300> :)
[00:20]  * zkriesse is off to somewhere
[00:20] <paultag> and DarkwingDuck
[00:21] <DarkwingDuck> Yes paultag?
[00:21] <paultag> DarkwingDuck, what?
[00:21] <collinp> DarkwingDuck: Don't abuse your powers.
[00:21] <zkriesse> lol
[00:21] <paultag> collinp, I told him to test it
[00:21] <DarkwingDuck> collinp: trust me I wont
[00:21] <paultag> collinp, I just set up his flags
[00:21] <collinp> paultag: Oh, ok.
[00:23] <zkriesse> welcome nuboon2age
[00:24] <drubin> can haz opz? :) lolz
[00:45] <enderandpeter> Say, might anyone be able to help me with a quick xorg.conf question...?
[00:46] <aveilleux> enderandpeter: I may be able to help
[00:46] <aveilleux> enderandpeter: Also, is your name a reference to the Wiggin brothers?
[00:46] <enderandpeter> Specifically, someone gave me an alternate configuration, and I'm quite the novice and I don't know how to implement it. I'm using Lucid on a PPC. And yes, it's a reference to the Wiggin brothers.
[00:48] <enderandpeter> They're two peas in a pod, if you ask me. But anyway, I read in an Ubuntu guide that post 9.04 versions keep X config info in /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d There's no xorg.conf file in there at the moment. If I create the file there, will my computer adhere to it when I reboot?
[00:49] <stlsaint> autopsy: anyone know how to install kernel-source in ubuntu
[00:50] <stlsaint> sorry bout the name there
[00:50] <stlsaint> i tried linux-kernel-headers alread
[00:50] <stlsaint> y
[00:51] <aveilleux> enderandpeter: As far as I know, creating an xorg.conf will override any of the modular settings in xorg.conf.d.
[00:51] <aveilleux> stlsaint: You mean the Linux kernel source?
[00:51] <drubin> stlsaint: apt-get source linux-kernel ?
[00:52] <enderandpeter> I see. So I should create this new xorg.conf in the xorg.conf.d directory?
[00:56] <aveilleux> enderandpeter: To generate an xorg.conf file, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:01] <enderandpeter> Well... in my haste I went ahead and just made the xorg.conf file in the xorg.conf.d directory, and now Ubuntu starts up in command line mode... That's a step up from it previously not displaying anything after booting...
[01:01] <aveilleux> enderandpeter: command-line doesn't utilize xorg....
[01:03] <enderandpeter> Indeed. It appears that X now doesn't want to starting or something... Perhaps it didn't like the conf file?
[01:04] <aveilleux> enderandpeter: it should just be in /X11, not /X11/xorg.conf.d
[01:08] <enderandpeter> Okay... I will move the xorg.conf file up a directory, restart, and see what happens...
[01:12] <marine1> just purchased a hp 4500 print,fax,copy and scan d/l drivers and not printing test page successfully
[01:13] <ddecator> marine1: do you know what driver it is using?
[01:14] <marine1> ddecator: how do I tell
[01:15] <marine1> ddecator: it located the drivers when I installed the usb cable and I just followed the instructions..
[01:15] <ddecator> marine1: do you have hplip installed?
[01:16] <marine1> ddecator: not sure
[01:17] <marine1> ddecator: i don't think so
[01:18] <ddecator> marine1: try running 'sudo apt-get install hplip' in a terminal. if it's already installed, it will tell you
[01:19] <marine1> ddecator: hplip is already the newest version.
[01:19] <ddecator> ok, so that's a good start
[01:20] <ddecator> marine1: when you try to print a test page, do you get any errors?
[01:20] <marine1> ddecator: no the pop-up says the test page is finished printing and nothing printed
[01:21] <ddecator> hm, i know i've run into that before, but i can't remember what the issue was exactly. can you try unplugging the printer from the USB, turning the printer off, then plugging the USB back in, turning the printer on, and try again? (it's crazy, but sometimes this works)
[01:23] <marine1> ddecator: let me give it awhirl
[01:23] <marine1> whirl
[01:26] <enderandpeter> aveilleux: Okay. Now Ubuntu wants to load in low graphics mode. It seems that it can't find the nouveau driver I was asked to use.  I posted my issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507389 by the way, if you'd like to see more details of the error message.
[01:27] <ddecator> enderandpeter: are you able to use the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[01:28] <marine1> ddecator: that's a big negative
[01:28] <ddecator> marine1: hm, i hoped we would get lucky, haha. ok, let me check something real quick
[01:29] <marine1> ddecator: it's set as my default printer
[01:29] <enderandpeter> ddecator: I am not sure. I didn't think nvidia made drivers for linux... I've been using what comes with Ubuntu. Whatever it was using when it first rebooted after installation was fine...
[01:30] <ddecator> marine1: ok, go to System > Administration > Printing, right-click the printer and select Properties, then look at Make and Model. the driver you are using should be after the name of the printer (hpijs for me). can you let me know what it says for you?
[01:31] <stlsaint> enderandpeter: you are using generic drivers, you should install the proprietary drivers
[01:31] <ddecator> enderandpeter: nvidia has proprietary drivers for ubuntu but they cannot be included by default, are you able to boot into a graphical environment with all of the menus?
[01:32] <marine1> ddecator: that was one of the recommended drivers for this(hpijs) but it recommended this one:HP Color LaserJet 4500 v2014.200 Postscript (recommended)
[01:33] <enderandpeter> ddecator: At the moment I am not. You should check out the history of my issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507389 only because it's too much to type here. Originally, after Ubuntu booted a second time after installation, it would show nothing. Since I was given this custom xorg.conf, it has at least shown me this error.
[01:34] <marine1> ddecator: I can change the driver, there are several more options including to that have cups and the ppd is generated for those
[01:34] <ddecator> hm, i don't have that driver (but i don't have a printer with faxing). try clicking 'Change...' and going through the setup. select HP, then the model, then let me know what drivers you have to choose from
[01:35] <ddecator> enderandpeter: alright, i'll take a look at the forums. i'm not great with graphics issues, but i'll see if i can come up with any ideas
[01:36] <stlsaint> drubin: ping
[01:36] <enderandpeter> ddecator: Hey. Any help is immensely appreciated!!
[01:36] <marine1> ddecator: here are some that are listed: hp color laserjet hpjis(en)
[01:37] <marine1> ddecator: hp color laserjet 4500 cups+gutenprint v5.2.3 (en)
[01:38] <marine1> ddecator: hp colr laserjet 4500 foomatic/postscript(en)  and 4500 foomatic/pxlcolor (en)
[01:40] <ddecator> marine1: if those are all of them, try hpjis (that's what i've had the most success with)
[01:40] <ddecator> enderandpeter: i replied to your thread
[01:40] <ddecator> and subscribed
[01:41]  * ddecator wishes we lived in a world that didn't need printers
[01:44] <enderandpeter> ddecator: Well, I went ahead and started in low graphics mode, and it doesn't look any different at all. Also, I went to the Ubuntu Software Center, searched for "nouveau" and found a "nouveau-firmware" program to install. Now stlsaint suggests I indeed use proprietary drivers. I would totally prefer that. I'm looking at nvidia's site for my video card...
[01:45] <ddecator> enderandpeter: if you have a graphical environment, go to System > Adminisration > Hardware Drivers. that will find them automatically
[01:45] <enderandpeter> ddecator: Yes, I saw! Thank you, sir! I suppose it might be a little faster to talk here, so I'll hang out here for the moment. Let me go there and see if it finds any proprietary drivers...
[01:46] <ddecator> enderandpeter: sounds good :)
[01:46] <marine1> ddecator: changing drivers did not work it shows completed in the queue but it's not printing
[01:47] <ddecator> dang..
[01:47] <marine1> i also noticed the pop-up notification did not appear when I printed a test page
[01:48] <ddecator> marine1: one option that has worked for me is to unplug the printer, go to System > Administration > Printing, delete the printer from there, then plug it back in and go through the setup. sometimes something gets corrupted and doing a fresh setup works
[01:51] <marine1> ddecator: doing it now
[01:52] <marine1> ddecator: What shuld be the first step after that
[01:53] <ddecator> marine1: after the setup, try printing something :)
[01:53] <marine1> ddecator: no I meant adding it
[01:54] <ddecator> marine1: after deleting the printer? just plug in the printer to the USB with it turned on and it should automatically go through the setup again
[01:55] <enderandpeter> ddecator: Okay, I used the hardware drivers utility and all it locates is the Broadcom driver for my Airport card (which totally works by the way!!!). Looking at nvida's site, I can't find the driver for a GeForce4 440 Go. So for now, I will install the nouveau-firmware program and see what happens...
[01:55] <enderandpeter> ddecator:... as it would appear the X is working fine, other than the error message of not finding nouveau when I boot up...
[01:56] <ddecator> enderandpeter: that's odd, i have a GeForce, but it's a newer model..
[01:57] <marine1> ddecator: should it be here:parallel:/dev/lp0
[01:58] <marine1> ddecator: that is the device URI:
[01:58] <ddecator> that's strange, mine points right to the usb..
[01:58] <marine1> ddecator: i also tried printing a test page and it says processing
[01:59] <enderandpeter> ddecator: You also have a Powerbook G4? Perhaps it's a nicer one :)
[02:00] <ddecator> marine1: with the printer plugged into the USB and turned on, click 'Change...' next to the URI and see if it lists the printer as one of the devices
[02:01] <ddecator> enderandpeter: no, i have an hp pavilion laptop :)
[02:01] <marine1> ddecator: it did and I changed it accordingly and the mystery still exists
[02:01] <ddecator> marine1: and it still shows the job as being done?
[02:04] <marine1> ddecator: it shows the job printing but it doesn't print
[02:04] <marine1> ddecator: plus it's my default printer
[02:05] <marine1> ddecator: x-sane can't find the scanner either???
[02:06] <ddecator> marine1: unfortunately i'm out of suggestions at this point. you could try the other drives, but i'm not sure how much luck you'll have :/
[02:07] <marine1> ddecator: thanks buddy is there anyone else with printer experience on here or could you direct me to another channel
[02:08] <ddecator> marine1: you can try #ubuntu, otherwise someone else here with more experience with printers may get on later
[02:09] <marine1> let me try that
[02:10] <iceflatline> All of my printers are networked, but when this happened to me, a reboot was all I needed.
[02:11] <ddecator> marine1: ^
[02:13] <phillw> pongs
[02:13] <phillw> pings a member of UBT
[02:14] <ddecator> phillw: ?
[02:14] <phillw> ddecator: is a quick PM okay?
[02:14] <ddecator> phillw: sure thing
[02:19] <stlsaint> room poke?
[02:39] <marine1> dd
[02:39] <marine1> ddecator: found something
[02:39] <ddecator> marine1: hm?
[02:39] <marine1> ddecator: error: Unable to communicate with device (code=12): hp:/usb/Deskjet_3840?serial=TH46H16266040R
[02:39] <marine1> error: Device not found
[02:40] <marine1> ddecator: i  went to the hp site for linux and ran all dependecies and at the end this what was the last error messag
[02:40] <ddecator> marine1: even if you unplug the printer from the usb, turn it off, plug it back in and turn it on?
[02:41] <marine1> ddecator: again
[02:41] <marine1> ddecator: warning: Printer is not HPLIP installed. Printers must use the hp: or hpfax: CUPS backend to function in HPLIP.
[02:41] <marine1> ddecator: does this mean anything to you
[02:41] <ddecator> marine1: odd...try 'sudo apt-get install hplip-cups' and see if it needs to be installed
[02:42] <marine1> ddecator:  Couldn't find package hplip-cups
[02:43] <ddecator> marine1: it's in universe, maybe you don't have that repo activated?
[02:44] <marine1> ddecator: it's installed in synaptic
[02:46] <ddecator> marine1: sorry, i'm not sure :(
[02:47] <marine1> ddecator: no problem
[03:25] <phillw> nhandler: ping
[03:25] <nhandler> phillw: pong
[03:25] <phillw> PM okay ?
[03:25] <nhandler> Sure
[03:26] <nhandler> Anytime
[03:48] <mcarse> hi
[03:48] <mcarse> can someone help me with a kernel module issue?
[03:50] <zkriesse> !ask
[03:50] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[03:50] <zkriesse> mcarse: ^^
[03:53] <mcarse> I am trying to get my drobo with multiple luns running again in Ubuntu 10.04, apparently I need to load scsi_mod, but when I try "modprobe scsi_mod" i get "FATAL: Module scsi_mod not found" where do I find it?
[03:54] <zkriesse> Hmm
[03:54] <zkriesse> Desktop Laptop?
[03:54] <mcarse> server actually
[03:54] <zkriesse> Ah
[03:55] <zkriesse> Then I've no idea as I'm quite confused by the server esition
[03:55] <zkriesse> edition
[03:55] <mcarse> it was working on 9.04, but I did a clean install to 10.04, and nada
[03:55] <mcarse> what if we ignore the fact that it is server?
[03:56] <zkriesse> One sec
[03:57] <zkriesse> mcarse: Join #ubuntu-ser er
[03:57] <zkriesse> Dang it
[03:57] <zkriesse> mcarse: Its #ubuntu-server
[03:58] <mcarse> thank you
[03:58] <zkriesse> :)
[03:58] <zkriesse> Welcome iceflatline
[04:04] <zkriesse> Welcome RTrev
[04:05] <RTrev> Hi!
[04:05] <RTrev> I've never been here before, so thought I should stop by.
[04:06] <zkriesse> RTrev: Welcome then
[04:06] <RTrev> Thanks
[04:06] <zkriesse> I'm zkriesse BT Mentor
[04:06] <zkriesse> Any questions y got fire away
[04:07] <RTrev> Just kind of wanted to get the lay of the land.  PhillW suggested I hang out here a bit.
[04:07] <ddecator> RTrev: ah, are you the one who was trying to sign the CoC?
[04:08] <RTrev> Yep, and thanks for your help ddecator!!
[04:08] <ddecator> RTrev: no problem :) i'm guessing you got it figured out then?
[04:08] <zkriesse> RTrev: Looking to join the Ubuntu Beginners Team maybe?
[04:08] <zkriesse> And hey ddecator
[04:09] <phillw> hi RTrev
[04:09] <RTrev> Yes.  It took all 5 of my brain cells, but I got it done.  And may very well join the team here, if you'll have me.
[04:09] <ddecator> everyone is welcome :)
[04:09] <RTrev> Hi Phill
[04:09] <phillw> i'm not part of UBT
[04:09] <zkriesse> Ahaha!!! Fresh meat!!!
[04:09] <zkriesse> Kidding
[04:10] <RTrev> Not sure I know the difference yet between all the teams and groups.
[04:10] <ddecator> RTrev: well, if you have any questions, feel free to ask!
[04:10] <phillw> RTrev: you got your mod priveldges http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=29#p150
[04:12] <RTrev> Oh boy, where to start? :)  Okay, this supplements the forums, I take it?  How would you describe the difference in folks who show up here?
[04:13] <phillw> RTrev: no, my baby forum has nothing to do with UBT or the ubuntu forums
[04:13] <ddecator> the forums are one place where some of the team's members help out
[04:13] <switchgirl> how do i find out what port my DAAP share is on?
[04:14] <zkriesse> RTrev: Well I'm the wiki lead
[04:15] <ddecator> switchgirl: hm, i'm not sure to be honest, but someone else probably knows
[04:15] <RTrev> Okay, is there a URL that talks about all of this somewhere?  I'm a bit confused, and it's been a long day, but I'm definitely interested.
[04:15] <switchgirl> ddecator, :P thanks
[04:15] <phillw> RTrev: i did ping you?
[04:15] <ddecator> RTrev: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[04:16] <ddecator> switchgirl: no problem :p
[04:16] <RTrev> Ah, perfect.. thanks!
[04:16] <zkriesse> RTrev: Also, this is the bt's help channel..the team hangs out and chats in #ubuntu-beginners-team
[04:16] <ddecator> zkriesse: btw, -wiki isn't listed on there...
[04:17] <zkriesse> ddecator: Its not?
[04:17] <ddecator> zkriesse: in the first IRC list
[04:17] <zkriesse> ddecator: Damnit..have to fix that
[04:17] <ddecator> !language > zkriesse
[04:17] <ubot2> zkriesse, please see my private message
[04:17] <ddecator> :p
[04:17] <zkriesse> ddecator: You ass
[04:18] <ddecator> heh, i didn't make that rule ;)
[04:18] <RTrev> @Phill, you pinged me?  Might have been one of those beeps I heard while my wife came in to ask me something.  Sorry.  Multi-tasking. :)
[04:18] <phillw> RTrev: pinged again?
[04:19] <RTrev> Tried to answer..?
[04:22] <RTrev> I'll do some reading, and then come back.. appreciate the welcome!
[04:25] <zkriesse> RTrev: :D
[04:26] <RTrev> Okay, nice meeting you folks.. be back when I've had some sleep and can make a bit more sense. ;-)
[04:29]  * phillw permission to pop into the team room?
[04:29] <pedro3005> lol phillw come in already
[05:10] <stlsaint> room poke?
[05:11] <zkriesse> room poke back stlsaint
[05:12] <stlsaint> zkriesse: you use virtualization any?
[05:12] <zkriesse> stlsaint: meaning a VM?
[05:12] <stlsaint> yea
[05:12] <zkriesse> nope sorry
[05:12] <stlsaint> cool
[05:12] <zkriesse> i can see if i can find a doc for it for ya though
[05:12]  * zkriesse is a doc guy!
[05:13] <stlsaint> zkriesse: naw dont worry about it
[05:13] <zkriesse> stlsaint: you sure?
[05:13] <zkriesse> stlsaint: hey you want to join the UBT WIki FG?
[05:14] <stlsaint> zkriesse: i was joined under starcraftman, then so much changed happened that i had sorta left things alone
[05:14] <zkriesse> ok
[05:14] <zkriesse> well i'm the wiki lead now so if go questions ask me
[05:15] <stlsaint> phillw_away: please dont use name changes to show your status as away
[05:15] <stlsaint> phillw_away: all irc clients have away log capabilities
[05:18] <phillw> stlsaint: sorry, i do log out of UBT before i move to away, I was just discussing how it is 21 people stay shown as logged on here
[05:18] <zkriesse> hello ekseniks
[05:20] <paultag> stlsaint, hahaha, we were just talking about it
[05:32] <stlsaint> paultag: have you ever used parallels? (virtualization)
[05:32] <paultag> no stlsaint :(
[05:35] <stlsaint> hrm, how do you track down an error when the logs dont tell you anything??
[05:35] <paultag> stlsaint, not sure :/
[05:43] <zkriesse> great topic paultag
[05:43] <paultag> zkriesse, thanks :)
[05:44] <paultag> zkriesse, some prospective members ( *caught* phillw ) were under the impression that -team is invite only
[05:44] <paultag> be sure to let him know he is welcome
[05:44] <zkriesse> paultag: lol
[05:44] <zkriesse> paultag: that's funny
[05:44] <zkriesse> paultag: ok dude i'm out for the night
[05:44] <paultag> l8r sk8r
[05:44] <zkriesse> paultag: back in the mornin
[05:59] <sabqat9> can anyone give me some basic tips to get started with ubuntu server
[05:59] <sabqat9> i thought i would be using a graphical interface but this is all in command line and i am totally lost
[05:59] <sabqat9> i am a new linux ubuntu user
[06:01] <sabqat9> i spoke to some ubuntu users earlier today and they all encouraged me to get going - its easy and there will be no problem
[06:01] <sabqat9> is there anyone out there?
[06:04] <pedro3005> hey sabqat9
[06:05] <holstein> i started doing tasks in the command line
[06:05] <holstein> on my desktop box
[06:05] <holstein> really ANY task
[06:05] <holstein> i would google, ripping CD command line ubuntu
[06:05] <holstein> or something like that
[06:06] <holstein> and just start trying to do things over there
[06:06] <holstein> i got a server box running, and i ssh to it and update it or whatever
[06:06] <holstein> its running an icecast server
[06:06] <collinp> I learned - learn - as I go.
[06:06] <holstein> i really dont mess with it much now that its up
[06:07] <sabqat9> my trouble is i am a newbie at linux and ubuntu and the command line is really scaring me
[06:07] <holstein> sabqat9: do you have test equimpment?
[06:07] <holstein> or virtualbox?
[06:07] <holstein> or another VM?
[06:08] <holstein> your going ot make some mistakes
[06:08] <holstein> and thats cool
[06:08] <holstein> but its nothing to be scared of
[06:08] <holstein> what do you want a server for?
[06:08] <holstein> what tasks?
[06:10] <collinp> You really shouldn't be touching servers in the first place unless you know how to administrate one effectively.
[06:10] <holstein> but, if its a local file server
[06:11] <holstein> or print server or something
[06:11] <holstein> that would be OK to play with
[06:11] <holstein> to learn
[06:11] <holstein> dont you think?
[06:11] <sabqat9> it will be just a simple file server for two people - two computers - with windows in both
[06:11] <collinp> Aye. But this person has absolutely no experience with the CLI at all. I would think running a server would be a little advanced for that.
[06:12] <collinp> Yeah, after using the CLI for a while, you could try a local server or something similar.
[06:13] <holstein> sabqat9: i learned a lot from using freeNAS
[06:13] <holstein> that would do what you talking about
[06:14] <holstein> and its got a web-gui
[06:14] <collinp> There's also samba.
[06:14] <holstein> sambe on a desktop box would work even
[06:14] <sabqat9> for a newbie with little linux experience - actually no linux experience - would tinkering with freenas be the way to go then
[06:15] <stlsaint> sabqat9: the best way to go is to learn on your current machine using cli...
[06:15] <holstein> samba* ^^
[06:15] <stlsaint> sabqat9: start small with learning to get into different directorys, moving files, copying files etc
[06:16] <sabqat9> what is your suggestion for setting up a samba box - are there any straight forward ways of doing this
[06:17] <stlsaint> yea get a old desktop somewhere/throw linux on it and samba and start learning...
[06:17] <stlsaint> there are guides (quite alot actually) for samba setup
[06:17] <collinp> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[06:18] <collinp> There's also this, but it seems more complex than is necessary: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[06:19] <sabqat9> the thing is - i only have three computer boxes and two monitors - i don't exactly have extra cash to throw around - so i wanted to setup two office computers for word processing, email and web and be able to access a headless file server that could store all my work files
[06:20] <stlsaint> sabqat9: right, hence i said use on old desktop system for home server
[06:20] <stlsaint> sabqat9: throw an extra hdd or two in it and you should be fine...you may need to restart every once in awhile but thats no big deal since its not a big production server
[06:21] <stlsaint> night all
[06:22] <sabqat9> just to clear my situation - i have two new systems both have - dual core with 4gb ram, running windows - then i have my old system which is a 1.8ghz with 768 ram
[06:22] <sabqat9> its the old system i want to convert into a headless file server
[06:23] <binaryme> sabqat9:  load ubuntu on it a setup fiel sharing (samba).. it's not hard to do
[06:23] <binaryme> er fiel = file
[06:25] <sabqat9> then can i remove the monitor for that system?
[06:25] <binaryme> sabqat9:  once you have ubuntu installed, create a "shared" folder somewhere and right click on it: slect file sharing  and follow the prompts.
[06:26] <binaryme> sabqat9:  yes, you can then remove the monitor.  you can use "remote desktop" to access it from your win pc if needed
[06:28] <sabqat9> you understand that i am an alien from another planet that has never used linux before - i am capable of figuring things out for myself - do you think a task like this is in the scope of a newbie like me?
[06:28] <holstein> totally
[06:28] <binaryme> sabqat9: one step a lot of people miss:  once you have ubuntu installed and a folder shared (see above), you need to create a samba user.
[06:29] <binaryme> sabqat9: if you are even reasonably tech savy (you are or you wouldn't be on here), you'll be fine
[06:30] <sabqat9> i have looked at samba enough times to think that it is possible but now you have throw "remote desktop" into this equation - does that require any special setup or complications on my part?
[06:30] <binaryme> sabqat9: just install ubuntu  (remove/backup any data on that machine that you want to keep first).
[06:30] <collinp> You can run a samba server completely headless - no remote desktop, nothing.
[06:31] <collinp> Remote Desktop is similar to it's equivalent on Windows that I can't remember the name of right now - probably the same name.
[06:31] <collinp> But it's useless if you're not using a GUI.
[06:31] <binaryme> sabqat9: no, it's easy.  you just enable it on one of the menus  (it just make management a bit easier - no carrying monitors around), but it is NOT required
[06:32] <collinp> Also, if you install a sshd and insist upon using a GUI, you can enable Xorg Forwarding and use the GUI over a SSH session.
[06:32] <binaryme> collinp: thats why I suggested ubuntu (desktop), not 'server'
[06:32] <binaryme> sabqat9: have you ever used VNC?
[06:33] <collinp> Hmm. Then I leave this to you :).
[06:33] <collinp> ...huh, I thought I fixed this before?
[06:33] <binaryme> collinp: not trying to "go one better", just trying to keep it simple for a newby
[06:34] <holstein> vnc to a headless desktop install might be less foriegn
[06:34] <sabqat9> guys - i appreciate you help - but i think i will take collinp earlier advice and some of binaryme and just install basic ubuntu - learn the ropes and go from there - i shouldn't start hurdling when i haven't learned how to walk yet
[06:35] <holstein> you can run it in vitual box
[06:35] <holstein> thats easy
[06:35] <holstein> and you can save 'snapshots'
[06:35] <holstein> and really screw it all up
[06:35] <holstein> and revert
[06:38]  * holstein 's on a new keyboard
[06:38] <holstein> virtual box*
[06:39] <binaryme> collinp: I didn't intend to "take over"... just trying to be helpful.  I'll leave it up to you...    leaving now.
[06:39] <collinp> Oh, don't worry about that.
[06:39] <collinp> You probably have more experience than I do with file servers, as I generally use either FTP or HTTP for file hosting.
[06:40] <collinp> You didn't "take over", either. We both did our parts to help :).
[09:35] <N1mo> hello
[09:36] <pedro3005> Hi
[09:36] <N1mo> i need some help
[09:36] <N1mo> how ti  confegure ppp through wvdial.conf
[09:40] <N1mo> anyone ?
[09:40] <N1mo> anyone ?
[09:40] <N1mo> anyone ?
[09:40] <N1mo> help
[09:40] <pedro3005> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[09:40] <pedro3005> try that
[09:40] <N1mo> > Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd.
[09:40] <N1mo> --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf.
[09:41] <N1mo> log file
[09:42] <N1mo> i had wvdial and gnome-ppp in my system
[09:42] <N1mo> it dials
[09:43] <N1mo> but this what happens
[09:52] <nUboon2Age> question: I'm not sure what I changed, but now my terminals are translucent, like I can see through them to see whatever's behind them.
[09:52] <nUboon2Age> that makes them unusable.  How can I change this back?
[09:54] <hobgoblin> Edit - Profile Prefs - Background
[09:59] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: checking that out now...
[10:00] <cedric__> Hello ! Somebody knows if it's really interessting to buy a processor with HT (Hyper Threading) for Ubuntu (lucid) ? Thanks
[10:03] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: that answer makes perfect sense but when I try to set it on solid background it doesn't make any difference.  Could this be related to the gnome theme?
[10:05] <hobgoblin> not that I know of, but I've not tried all the themes there are... have you been playing with compiz ?
[10:06] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: I tried to fix it by playing w/ compiz, but couldn't make a diff.  Just now though I tried a different theme, and it made a change.
[10:06] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: its almost like it over rode some kind of settings.  I don't know which ones they'd be.
[10:08] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: but at any rate I can read it now.  Thanks for your help!
[10:09] <hobgoblin> nUboon2Age: what theme were you using that caused it? I'll have a go with it
[10:10] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: I think it was Dust and I switched to Eclipse.
[10:11] <hobgoblin> I'd not expect dust to do that
[10:12] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: are you seeing the same thing?
[10:12] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: with d
[10:12] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: with Dust that is?
[10:12] <hobgoblin> nope
[10:13] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: hmmm... i know I changed themes recently.  So I'd have to guess that's when the problem began.  I'm not sure what I had before, but it was probably
[10:14] <hobgoblin> odd - but if it's ok now I shall just wonder :)
[10:14] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: either Ambience, Ambience Refined (from gnome web site) or UbutuStudio
[10:14] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: Well thanks. :)
[10:16] <hobgoblin> :)
[11:00] <ekseniks> hi guys
[11:00] <pedro3005> hi
[11:01] <ekseniks> i installed the new nvidia drivers and now it won't detect my monitor (it did before) should i be worried or should i just let sleeping dogs lie...
[11:10] <pedro3005> well does your monitor work?
[12:58] <kd0t> hi
[12:59] <pedro3005> hi
[12:59] <kd0t> do scripts have a specific file extension?  im trying to create a start up script
[12:59] <kd0t> wasnt sure f it needed to be .sh or not?
[13:02] <pedro3005> nah
[13:03] <pedro3005> kd0t, just need to make them executable
[13:03] <kd0t> cool thanks
[13:12] <geirha> In fact, don't put extensions on scripts
[13:13] <kd0t> how come?
[13:13] <kd0t> linux standard or another reason?
[13:13] <geirha> What's the point? You just have to type out the extension when you want to run it
[13:14] <kd0t> fair enough
[13:14] <geirha> you run ls with ls, not ls.elf
[13:14] <geirha> file /bin/* | grep script
[13:15] <geirha> Another good reason is, that when you write a script, you do it because you need to acomplish a certain task.
[13:16] <geirha> Now, say you find out that that task would be done much more efficiently in python for instance ... now you either have a python-script with .sh extension (which is very misleading)
[13:16] <geirha> or you need to change the extension to .py, and change all places where that script is used
[15:03] <tpjmiami> hello?
[15:03] <tpjmiami> new ubuntu user (10.04), i was wondering if i could get some help w/ a sound problem
[15:03] <switchgirl> tpjmiami, sure
[15:04] <tpjmiami> since i installed 10.04 i have not been able to use my external microphone (which is connected to a headset) at all, and when i also connect the headset to the jack, i got sound from both the speakers and headset (so no speaker blocking)
[15:04] <tpjmiami> after a lot of blog reading, here's what i did:
[15:04] <tpjmiami> i tried uninstalling pulseaudio and activating esound with a bunch of Terminal prompts (you'll have to excuse that I am not too familiar w/ ubuntu syntax)
[15:05] <switchgirl> paultag, i'm trying to set up a proxy server so my eee can connect to my desktop  i have squid installed and am trying to edit"  url_rewrite_program /usr/bin/squidGuard –c /etc/squid/squidGuard.conf " (following  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard)
[15:05] <paultag> switchgirl, what the fuck?
[15:05] <tpjmiami> also tried alsamixer
[15:05] <tpjmiami> in brief, here are the commands i typed:
[15:05] <paultag> switchgirl, why do you need a proxy?
[15:05] <tpjmiami> killall pulseaudio
[15:05] <tpjmiami> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[15:05] <tpjmiami> sudo apt-get install esound
[15:05] <tpjmiami> sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio
[15:05] <tpjmiami> sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[15:06] <tpjmiami> the last command didn't work for some reason
[15:06] <tpjmiami> and i still see pulseaudio under Apps-Sound & Video
[15:06] <tpjmiami> so i feel that the whole set of processes was somehow not completed correctly
[15:06] <tpjmiami> sure enough, i have no keyboard sound control, and even system-preferences-sound doesn't work
[15:06] <paultag> tpjmiami, please keep your posts on one line
[15:06] <paultag> !pastebin | tpjmiami
[15:06] <ubot2> tpjmiami: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:06] <paultag> switchgirl, what are you trying to do?
[15:06] <paultag> tpjmiami, sudo apt-get install padevchooser
[15:07] <tpjmiami> so i followed the following set of commands:
[15:07] <tpjmiami> sudo apt-get install devscripts build-essential fakeroot
[15:07] <paultag> tpjmiami, and then use that to enable the mic's volume. Ensure it's plugged in right with `lspci`
[15:07] <tpjmiami> sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-applets
[15:07] <tpjmiami> then this:
[15:07] <tpjmiami> cd ~
[15:07] <tpjmiami> mkdir build && cd build
[15:07] <tpjmiami> apt-get source gnome-applets
[15:07] <tpjmiami> cd gnome-applets-2.28.0
[15:07] <tpjmiami> then this: gedit debian/rules
[15:07] <hobgoblin> sigh
[15:07] <paultag> tpjmiami, last warning, please don't do that
[15:07] <paultag> hobgoblin, I'm not kicking yet
[15:07] <paultag> hobgoblin, perhaps a +q
[15:08] <hobgoblin> :)
[15:08] <hobgoblin> morning paultag
[15:08] <tpjmiami> apologies, just tyring to explain everything i did
[15:08] <paultag> morning hobgoblin
[15:08] <hobgoblin> I think
[15:08] <paultag> !pastebin | tpjmiami
[15:08] <ubot2> tpjmiami: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:08] <switchgirl> paultag, cus that way i can cache the dns on the desktop and load pages internally
[15:08] <paultag> switchgirl, that is way overkill for what you want to do
[15:09] <paultag> switchgirl, I'm guessing the desktop has a wiki card and network card?
[15:09] <switchgirl> and also than when i am out at the cafe i can hide the ip
[15:09] <paultag> switchgirl, Oh, nope.
[15:09] <paultag> switchgirl, that's where it went wrong. Here's why
[15:09] <paultag> switchgirl, your dekstop has either a 192.168 or 10.x.y.z address
[15:10] <paultag> switchgirl, those are not IP addresses, they are reserved internal addresses. your Router has something called a routing table, and it routs traffic for each host on each port through it's own port
[15:11] <paultag> switchgirl, now, if you go outside your router and request 192.168.1.100 it will fail
[15:11] <switchgirl> it would anyway
[15:11] <paultag> switchgirl, you ( if anything ) need to set up that server as a proxy right after the modem, and pass through to the router
[15:11] <switchgirl> 192.168 .... is an internal ip
[15:11] <paultag> switchgirl, yes, it is
[15:11] <paultag> switchgirl, that's what I'm explaining to you
[15:13] <tpjmiami> pautag, after installing padevchooser should i reboot?
[15:13] <tpjmiami> (just installed as per your prompt)
[15:13] <paultag> tpjmiami, no
[15:14] <paultag> tpjmiami, you run it and use that to enable yer mic
[15:14] <paultag> tpjmiami, but before you do that make sure it's found by linux -- use the command `lsusb` and pastebin it here
[15:14] <switchgirl> so what to do?
[15:14] <switchgirl> @ paultag
[15:14] <tpjmiami> so i type lsusb on terminal?  note that my mic plugs into a mic (NOT a USB) port
[15:15] <paultag> switchgirl, if you are serious about setting up a proxy / dns chache
[15:15] <paultag> tpjmiami, Oh, then shit. Nevermind
[15:15] <paultag> switchgirl, you would have to remove that desktop from the network and set it up as a 24/7 server
[15:16] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: why did you actually remove pulseaudio?
[15:16] <paultag> switchgirl, and that would entail a lot
[15:16] <paultag> switchgirl, it's doable, but you would basically loose a machine
[15:16] <switchgirl> oh.
[15:16] <switchgirl> shame
[15:16] <paultag> switchgirl, aye
[15:16] <tpjmiami> hobgob: some blogs mentioned that pulseaudio in ubuntu 10.04 cannot recognise external mics, and that esound was better for this
[15:16] <tpjmiami> anyway
[15:16] <paultag> switchgirl, what you _could_ do
[15:17] <paultag> switchgirl, is set up a vpn on the desktop and vpn to the house, but again, that's really hard to setuo
[15:17] <tpjmiami> i have the pulse audio icon on upper right
[15:17] <paultag> setup
[15:17] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: so is padevchooser finding the mic
[15:17] <tpjmiami> how do i get it to find external mic?
[15:17] <paultag> tpjmiami, it would show as your soundcard's input
[15:17] <paultag> tpjmiami, hobgoblin here knows what he's doing :D
[15:17] <switchgirl> sudo aptitude remove squid
[15:18]  * hobgoblin is making some tea and having a smoke back in a minute
[15:18] <tpjmiami> don't know where to go on padevchooser... very new at this guys
[15:19] <tpjmiami> i've got the upper right icon and a pulldown menu
[15:19] <tpjmiami> got no clue what to do next
[15:19] <zkriesse> nhandler: pinf
[15:21] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: I'll be back in a moment
[15:25] <tpjmiami> ok
[15:25] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: while you're waiting - run lspci in a terminal and find what soundcard you have please - if you;r enot sure pastebin it - you were given the paste info a couple of times above :)
[15:26] <tpjmiami> good news is i have pulseaudio volcontrol too
[15:26] <tpjmiami> (and keyboard vol control)
[15:28] <tpjmiami> hob: tried the pastebin link, really don't understand it, sorry
[15:28] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: do you know what soundcard you have?
[15:28] <tpjmiami> just tell me what part of the long response to lspci i should look for
[15:28] <tpjmiami> (to tell u about soundcard)
[15:29] <hobgoblin> multimedia possibly
[15:30] <tpjmiami> is it Audio Device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Def Audio Controller (rev 01)
[15:32] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: probably - run this sudo apt-get install pastebinit &&lspci |pastebinit
[15:32] <hobgoblin> when it's finished there will be an url - let's have that please
[15:34] <tpjmiami> you mean type that whole sudo line until pastebinit?
[15:35] <hobgoblin> hang on a mo - let's get as much info as we can
[15:36] <tpjmiami> so what exactly do i type?   sorry if it's a dumb question but i just want to be 100% sure
[15:37] <hobgoblin> run this command - all in one go - copy and paste it
[15:37] <hobgoblin> sudo apt-get install pastebinit &&lspci |pastebinit &&aplay -l |pastebinit && dpkg -l pulse* |pastebinit
[15:38] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: you'll get 3 urls - paste them here - make it all in one line
[15:39] <tpjmiami> no urls yet, just asking if i wanna continue installing 2 packages
[15:39] <tpjmiami> say y?
[15:39] <hobgoblin> yep
[15:40] <tpjmiami> the 3 urls are:
[15:40] <tpjmiami> pastebin.com/3gfWp55w
[15:40] <tpjmiami> pastebin.com/FxW6HytZ
[15:41] <tpjmiami> pastebin.com/8gNBw2sz
[15:42] <tpjmiami> what should i do now?
[15:44] <hobgoblin> tpjmiami: so all sound is working ok except finding the mic
[15:45] <tpjmiami> yes, plus the headset does NOT block out the speakers
[15:46] <tpjmiami> am i still on the channel?  got disc
[15:46] <hobgoblin> yes you are back
[15:47] <tpjmiami> so that's my situation
[15:47] <hobgoblin> so - padevchooser - volume control - opens a box - input devices - does it show th mic?
[15:50] <tpjmiami> no, when i go to apps-sound-device chooser i get an upper right icon
[15:50] <tpjmiami> with pulldown menu
[15:50] <tpjmiami> no box
[15:50] <tpjmiami> no menu option says input devices
[15:51] <tpjmiami> Default server/sink/source
[15:52] <tpjmiami> etc
[15:52] <tpjmiami> sound familiar?
[15:52] <hobgoblin> volume control - open that - input devices tab
[15:53] <hobgoblin> check the default source as well
[15:53] <tpjmiami> ok, port is set to mic 1
[15:53] <tpjmiami> other options are mic 2 and line in
[15:54] <tpjmiami> no default source set
[15:54] <tpjmiami> or for clarification
[15:55] <hobgoblin> you need to set one then - try tyhem all one at a time I guess - in the volume control - check the vols against the input devices
[15:55] <tpjmiami> default source is selected, but can't find other
[15:55] <tpjmiami> both left and right input vols  set to 150
[15:57] <tpjmiami> just tried all 3 and speaking into mic, nothing happening
[15:57] <tpjmiami> i don't even know if any of the 3 is detecting my external mic
[15:57] <tpjmiami> very confused here
[15:58] <tpjmiami> on what to do next
[15:58] <hobgoblin> probably because you followed whatever blog you followed - have you got the link to that
[16:01] <tpjmiami> well it was like that to begin with, so doubt the commands i used from the blogs did this
[16:01] <tpjmiami> been this way since i had ubuntu
[16:03] <hobgoblin> yea - but you didn;t have pasdevchooser or maybe not know what to do to get the thing working - if you don't ant to give me the link so I can see what you did then fine - I have lots I can be doing here at home
[16:42] <zkriesse> Joeb454: ping
[16:56] <zkriesse> hello goodtime
[16:56] <goodtime> hello
[16:56] <goodtime> this miro thingy kinds stinks
[16:57] <zkriesse> what?
[16:57] <goodtime> and it defaulted its self auto
[16:57] <zkriesse> What is "Miro"
[16:57] <goodtime> miro gets downloads and plays them  torrent tracker
[16:58] <goodtime> it has its own dl too
[16:58] <goodtime> i found it in the softwear center
[16:58] <zkriesse> ah
[16:59] <zkriesse> Then I'd know nothing about it as I don't download through torrents
[16:59] <zkriesse> fulldarkness: welcome!
[16:59] <goodtime> i need a newsgroup
[16:59] <goodtime> and credit
[16:59] <goodtime> lolo
[18:39] <kdotj> hey people
[18:39] <goodtime> hey
[19:36] <zkriesse> 18VAA1J7M: Welcome
[19:37] <18VAA1J7M> zkriesse, jaja
[19:37] <malev> hi zkriesse
[19:37] <zkriesse> hello malev
[19:58] <kryptic> having problems gettn ma contacts available to me offline in 10.04 any help?
[19:58] <aveilleux> kryptic: Contacts of what?
[19:59] <kryptic> forgot to add mail contacts in evolution
[20:01] <kryptic> aveilleux cud u help?
[20:01] <aveilleux> kryptic: Looks like a bug in Evolution https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution-couchdb/+bug/504980
[20:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 504980 in evolution-couchdb "Evolution Mail no offline contacts (affects: 3) (heat: 5)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[20:01] <aveilleux> Thanks, ubot2.
[20:05] <kryptic> thanks
[20:06] <aveilleux> You're welcome, kryptic
[20:11] <zkriesse> Joeb454: ping
[20:18] <debnewb> Can someone help. I can't install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.32-22-generic
[20:18] <aveilleux>  debnewb: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[20:19] <debnewb> ubuntu 10.04
[20:19] <aveilleux> debnewb: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.32-22-generic is a very old package, and hasn't been in Ubuntu since Hardy (8.04)
[20:20] <debnewb> oh, do I need to update my kernel?
[20:21] <aveilleux> debnewb: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules will install the latest version
[20:23] <aveilleux> debnewb: What do you need linux-restricted-modules for?
[20:23] <debnewb> I can't get my nvidia card to work
[20:23] <debnewb> I read on this site I needed them https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:24] <zkriesse> hello suprengr
[20:24] <aveilleux> debnewb: is linux-headers installed?
[20:27] <debnewb> there are 3 of them in synaptic linux-headers-2.6.32-22, linux-headers-general and linux-headers-2.6.32-22-general
[20:27] <debnewb> linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic sorry.
[20:28] <aveilleux> debnewb: Install the first one
[20:29] <debnewb> those 3 are install already.  should I remove the other 2?
[20:30] <aveilleux> debnewb: No.
[20:33] <debnewb> well I'm completely stumped
[20:34] <aveilleux> debnewb: What hardware?
[20:34] <debnewb> I've been reading everything I can find and trying all the different solutions, since early this morning.
[20:34] <debnewb> Geforce 2 ultra
[20:36] <aveilleux> debnewb: Last I checked cards that old didn't need a binary driver
[20:36] <aveilleux> debnewb: Did you blacklist Nouveau?
[20:36] <debnewb> yes
[20:38] <aveilleux> debnewb: Paste the output of lspci | grep -i nvidia please?
[20:39] <ekseniks> hey guys
[20:39] <ekseniks> umm..
[20:39] <debnewb> http://pastebin.com/vmcXi2gp
[20:40] <aveilleux> !topic |ekseniks
[20:40] <ubot2> ekseniks: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[20:40] <aveilleux> Oops. Wrong one.
[20:40] <zkriesse> lol aveilleux
[20:40] <aveilleux> I don't remember the right command D:
[20:40] <ekseniks> i don't know if this a bad thing but i think i can see y'alls IP addy :/
[20:40] <zkriesse> ekseniks: what?
[20:40] <aveilleux> ekseniks: That's the hostmask. That doesn't matter.
[20:40] <ekseniks> like when someone joins
[20:41] <zkriesse> ekseniks: oh hostmask doesn't matter
[20:41] <ekseniks> oh ok cool..
[20:41] <zkriesse> ekseniks: look at mine
[20:41] <ekseniks> ye you don't have it :P
[20:41] <ekseniks> aveilleux, you have it :)
[20:41] <aveilleux> ekseniks: I know.
[20:43] <zkriesse> aveilleux: you should request a cloak in #freenode
[20:44] <aveilleux> zkreisse: I'll get around to it. My IP address is publicly available through a ping of sublevel21.com.
[20:44] <zkriesse> aveilleux: ah
[20:45] <zkriesse> nUboon2Age: welcome
[20:51] <ekseniks> so guys being new to this, is there a way you can play games decently? like games not built for linux
[20:52] <aveilleux> ekseniks: WINE
[20:52] <ekseniks> does it have support for directx and stuff?
[20:53] <aveilleux> ekseniks: Kind of.
[20:54] <ekseniks> :/ my pc isn't exactly a perfect gaming rig :/
[20:55] <aveilleux> ekseniks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29  also http://appdb.winehq.org/
[20:59] <aveilleux> Quick question. Is it possible to create a CLI LiveCD, and if so, how?
[21:07] <Anotheridiot> hullo
[21:08] <Anotheridiot> Im looking for some help installing a patch from launchpad
[21:15] <iceflatline> aveilleux: you might try remastersys
[21:16] <aveilleux> iceflatline: Doesn't support pure CLI. It operates on a CLI, but the resulting LiveCD is not.
[21:18] <iceflatline> ahh.. I understand what you're asking for now. Nevermind then :)
[21:19] <paultag> Ahha Anotheridiot
[21:19] <paultag> Anotheridiot, you did ask in here
[21:20] <Anotheridiot> I did,
[21:20] <Anotheridiot> Thanks paultag
[21:20] <paultag> Anotheridiot, can you send me a copy of the patch?
[21:20] <paultag> Anotheridiot, just so I know what format it's in
[21:20] <Anotheridiot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/367175?comments=all
[21:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 367175 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "thunderbird not using indicator applet (affects: 72) (dups: 1) (heat: 430)" [Wishlist,In progress]
[21:20] <Anotheridiot> Thats the bug Im looking at
[21:20] <Anotheridiot> and the patch is listed at : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/46519932/desktop.patch
[21:21] <Anotheridiot> Other than manually creating the files which I am way too rusty at I cant think how else to do it
[21:22] <paultag> Anotheridiot, I take it you don't manage this package?
[21:23] <Anotheridiot> no I dont
[21:23] <paultag> OK
[21:23] <paultag> Anotheridiot, this looks like a patch on the debian config directory ( debian/ )
[21:23] <Anotheridiot> basically Im new to ubunty
[21:23] <Anotheridiot> keep typoing that *ubuntu
[21:23] <paultag> Anotheridiot, so you can checkout the dsc and apply this patch and do a build on it
[21:23] <paultag> Anotheridiot, where did you come from?
[21:24] <Anotheridiot> Been a general networking geek for the last 15 odd years - OS wise windows background
[21:24] <paultag> kk
[21:24] <paultag> Anotheridiot, so the way this works:
[21:24] <paultag> Anotheridiot, the applications don't come from the author in .exe format, they are in a source format that you ./configure, make and make install
[21:24] <paultag> Anotheridiot, this lead to sloppyness, so package managers were created ( you can't remove something that is make installed )
[21:25] <paultag> Anotheridiot, so debian uses a package tool called "dpkg"
[21:25] <paultag> Anotheridiot, and dpkg contains goodies such as dependencies ( to keep footprint down ) copyright, maintainer and all kinds of other goodies
[21:26] <paultag> Anotheridiot, this patch would be applied by the debian packager before it creates a .deb
[21:26] <paultag> Anotheridiot, so it would be best ( unless you want to learn how to package ) to just wait :)
[21:26] <Anotheridiot> dependencies I get - had a little *nix experience
[21:26] <paultag> Anotheridiot, aye
[21:26] <paultag> Anotheridiot, let me see if it's hit any repos for ya
[21:27] <Anotheridiot> I think RH 6 was my last go at it
[21:27] <Anotheridiot> probably still have the CD's
[21:27] <paultag> Anotheridiot, ahha, RHEL uses "rpms"
[21:27] <paultag> Anotheridiot, we use debs
[21:27] <Anotheridiot> yeah remember those
[21:28] <Anotheridiot> so the debs are packages, and the patch is a modification to the package which should be made before the app installation ?
[21:28] <paultag> Anotheridiot, yeah, it's actually modifing some of that debian only data
[21:29] <paultag> Anotheridiot, looks like this issue was just fixed upstream
[21:30] <Anotheridiot> completely silly question - upstream to me is a bandwidth term what does it mean in this context ?
[21:30] <paultag> Anotheridiot, :)
[21:30] <paultag> Anotheridiot, upstream means where we got the code from
[21:30] <paultag> Anotheridiot, so for Ubuntu it's Debian, and for Debian it's the authors
[21:31] <aveilleux> Anotheridiot, On the development cycle, you are downstream. The developers are upstream.
[21:31] <paultag> Anotheridiot, and it was fixed by the authors, so it will be put into debian, and then into Ubuntu
[21:31] <Anotheridiot> ahhh Its like a hierarchy of software dev
[21:31] <paultag> Anotheridiot, aye :)
[21:31] <paultag> Anotheridiot, and Debian and Redhat's upstream is the same
[21:31] <Anotheridiot> got it - thanks
[21:31] <paultag> kk :)
[21:31] <Anotheridiot> :)
[21:34] <Anotheridiot> Off to Bugzilla now by the looks of it :)
[22:04] <jgws1> what happened to the remote login controls in ubuntu 10
[22:06] <Silver_Fox_> In what sense jgws1  ?
[22:06] <Silver_Fox_> And hello ;)
[22:09] <jgws1> sorry, i'm a slow multi-tasker
[22:09] <jgws1> im trying to set up my ubuntu 10 as a headless system
[22:15] <jgws1> stepping away.  will read log later if someone replies to my question.
[22:19] <geirha> jgws1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[22:23] <geirha> Or maybe you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[22:43] <tpjmiami> hello?
[22:44] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[22:44] <tpjmiami> hi, can't seem to see the other participants on the right side
[22:45] <tpjmiami> was talking to hobgoblin earlier about a sound issue
[22:46] <Silver_Fox_> hobgoblin is no longer in this channel tpjmiami
[22:46] <Silver_Fox_> Can we assist you with the same issue ?
[22:46] <tpjmiami> would be grateful, thks
[22:47] <Silver_Fox_> What was the trouble you were experiencing ?
[22:47] <tpjmiami> firstly, any idea how i can see the other chat participants on the right side of this window?
[22:47] <Silver_Fox_> Which irc client are you using ?
[22:47] <tpjmiami> empathy
[22:47] <tpjmiami> on  ubuntu 10.04
[22:47] <aveilleux> tpjmiami: I don't believe Empathy has that capability
[22:48] <tpjmiami> just had it this afternoon
[22:48] <ekseniks> xchat ftw
[22:48] <aveilleux> tpjmiami: Empathy is very immature, I would reccomend XChat+Pidgin.
[22:49] <Silver_Fox_> irc is supported by empathy
[22:49] <tpjmiami> anyway, back to the sound issue
[22:50] <tpjmiami> new ubuntu user, upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 a month ago
[22:51] <tpjmiami> 2 problems w/ external headsets: 1) mic not recognised when plugged into front (non-USB) jack, and 2) headphone wouldn't block out speakers when plugged into its respective jack
[22:52] <tpjmiami> (empathy is horrible... can't type much w/o window growing incessantly)
[22:52] <tpjmiami> tried the following:
[22:53] <tpjmiami> 1) installing device chooser, none of the inputs finds the mic
[22:53] <tpjmiami> 2) replacing pulseaudio w/ esound entirely, as per this page: ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1229804.html
[22:54] <tpjmiami> 3) ended up w/ neither PA nor esound working at all, no sound control at all, so did this: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1377668
[22:55] <tpjmiami> 4) hobgoblin helped me re-install PA vol ctrl and devchooser
[22:55] <tpjmiami> so back to square 1
[22:55] <tpjmiami> can control sound fine
[22:55] <tpjmiami> but external mic not recognised
[22:56] <tpjmiami> would just love some guidance here
[22:56] <tpjmiami> laptop is acer aspire 5050
[22:57] <tpjmiami> any ideas?
[22:58] <tenach> Hey! I used to have one of those.
[22:58] <tenach> Sadly, I have not had anything above 8.04 on it.
[22:58] <tenach> Hm.
[22:59] <tpjmiami> tenach:  i can say 9.10 made it run like usain bolt compared to vista
[22:59] <tpjmiami> 10.04 good too... great video streaming
[22:59] <tpjmiami> but these little mic issues are very annoying
[22:59] <tpjmiami> like being able to navigate a satellite but can't add 2+2
[23:00] <tenach> So it's not the integrated mic, correct?
[23:00] <tpjmiami> no, the external one (non-USB jack)
[23:00] <tenach> er, I just caught up on it. You happened to specify as I came in.
[23:00] <tenach> Plugging into the front mic input then.
[23:01] <tpjmiami> and again, the headphones don't block out the speakers
[23:01] <tenach> I had that issue on 8.04.
[23:01] <tenach> All I ended up doing was muting the speakers and not the headset.
[23:02]  * tenach goes to look around.
[23:03] <tpjmiami> any thoughts in the meantime silverfox
[23:03] <tpjmiami> ?
[23:07] <Silver_Fox_> Sorry,  just reading logs  tpjmiami
[23:07] <tpjmiami> no worries, found the right side userlist
[23:07] <tpjmiami> was minimized next to the scroll bar
[23:11] <tpjmiami> tenach, did you get those URLs i posted?
[23:11] <Silver_Fox_> When the headphones are plugged in you still get audio from front speakers yes ?
[23:12] <tpjmiami> yup
[23:12] <Silver_Fox_> I have that issue on my laptop
[23:12] <tpjmiami> and no mic sound sent (fails Skype call test)
[23:13] <Silver_Fox_> The easiest thing i do is mute the front speaker manually via the volume control
[23:13] <tenach> tpjmiami, yeah I did.
[23:20] <tpjmiami> silver_fox: doesn't work, it mutes out the headphones also
[23:21] <aveilleux> tpjmiami: Did you set the audio profile in System > Preferences > Sound to match what you have? Should be something likt
[23:23] <aveilleux> tpjmiami: like* analog stereo duplex
[23:23] <tpjmiami> aveilleux: under which tab?
[23:26] <tpjmiami> under Hardware-Choose a device to configure, i have INternal audio, analog stereo duplex
[23:34] <tpjmiami> anyone here?
[23:35] <aveilleux> tpjmiami: Sorry, went off to eat.
[23:35] <aveilleux> tpjmiami: That's the correct setting, yeah
[23:37] <tpjmiami> tenach, still there?
[23:40] <tpjmiami> aveilleux, still stuck on this
[23:41] <aveilleux> tpjmiami, what do you have listed under the output tab?
[23:42] <tpjmiami> under choose a device i have internal audio analog stereo
[23:42] <tpjmiami> and connector is analog speakers
[23:44] <aveilleux> tpjmiami: Sorry, what do you mean by "connector"?
[23:45] <tpjmiami> under Settings for the selected device, in Output
[23:46] <aveilleux> Uhm.... can you send a screenshot or something? I'm afraid I don't follow exactly what you're saying. http://imgur.com/
[23:49] <tpjmiami> http://imgur.com/aImtP.jpg
[23:50] <aveilleux> hm.
[23:50] <tpjmiami> look wrong?
[23:57] <tpjmiami> hello?
[23:57] <switchgirl> anyone else noticed that bbc are fading out on real media streams? http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2009/10/realmedia_an_update.shtml it's a shame as i enjoyed listening to the streams from rhythmbox - the only option is wma and that's unsupported in Linux
[23:58] <zkriesse> tpjmiami: HI!