CynthiaGThere has been a regression with today's update to librsvg, bug 259485. Should I reopen that bug or open another saying "regression in Lucid"?00:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 259485 in librsvg (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "(bad render) incorrect float parsing in data attribute in tag <path> (dups: 1) (heat: 4)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25948500:51
CynthiaGeh, I reopened the bug :)01:14
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trinikronohey all , i can do with some mentoring!06:04
micahg!ask | trinikrono06:08
ubot2trinikrono: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)06:08
trinikronomicahg: clearly you did not understand me lol, i meant i applied for a mentor and i wanted someone to help me learn a little.06:09
micahgtrinikrono: k06:09
micahgtrinikrono: have you applied to the Launchpad group06:09
micahgtrinikrono: sorry, it's late for me :)06:09
micahgvish: you around?06:09
trinikronoi vote for ddecator, he's a nice guy lol06:11
micahgtrinikrono: what are your interests?06:11
trinikronowell so far i was triaging on the checkgmail package06:13
trinikronoso i not really made up about anything yet, but i want to reach bugcontrol06:13
micahgtrinikrono: well, I can help with basic questions tonight06:16
trinikronookie well here goes06:18
micahgtrinikrono: BTW, here's the mentoring group on LP: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct06:18
trinikronoyes i applied there two months ago06:19
vishmicahg: hey06:19
trinikronomy name is kurt belgrave on the list06:19
micahgvish: trinikrono is looking for a mentor, are you working on that stuff?06:19
* vish looking06:20
vishtrinikrono: any preferred time ?06:21
vishit would be preferable if you could update it : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/trinikrono06:22
vishthe updated mentors wiki > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors06:22
trinikronowell i am not really worried about time i tend not to sleep but i am utc-406:23
trinikronoand i updated it 5 days ago , is there something you wanted to see on the wikipage?06:24
vishtrinikrono: yeah , the time available was what i was looking for, if its not an issue you could mention that ;)  ..06:24
vishtrinikrono: has ddecator already been mentoring you?06:25
vishor do you know him?06:25
trinikronowell he helped me when i was doing some triaging on the checkgmail package06:25
trinikronoi was asking around here like i normally do06:26
vishah , cool06:26
vishtrinikrono: ddecator's time available is 03:00 - 06:00 UTC . is that ok for you?06:26
trinikronoerm i am not sure what time that is06:28
trinikronogive me a minute06:28
trinikronowould it help if i said its 1:30 am now?06:28
micahgtrinikrono: so, 10PM-1AM for you :)06:28
trinikronoyea thats super06:29
vishhmm , utc -4 would be i think 11pm - 2-am06:30
micahgvish: yes, but IIRC, ddecator had 9PM -12PM local time06:30
vishah..ok then.. trinikrono you got your wish! merry xmas ;p06:31
trinikrononice, what happens now06:32
ddecatordo i have two students now? :p06:47
ddecatorvish: btw, i think austin can be taken off of my name, still haven't heard back06:49
vishddecator: well , everyone want you :)06:49
ddecatorhaha, can't complain about that. so i trinikrono officially going to be my student then vish?06:50
vishddecator: yeah , adding him in as we speal06:50
ddecatorvish: sounds good, thanks06:50
ddecatortrinikrono: you still around?06:50
ddecatortrinikrono: good deal! mind if i pm you?06:51
trinikronogo right ahead06:51
trinikronoyou know i ask a lot of questions06:51
ddecatorthat's usually a good thing :)06:52
WilceyIn what applications are we finding bugs today06:52
micahgWilcey: >80k on LP :)06:53
WilceyThanks :)06:54
ddecatoranyone have a link to the wiki page that discusses what users should do if they have a trouble with a repo server not working properly?07:31
micahgddecator: a mirror?07:31
ddecatormicahg: yah07:31
micahgddecator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors07:32
ddecatoroh, it's on find right package too..haha, thanks micahg07:32
vishoh , bloody!07:36
ddecatorvish: hm?07:37
vishlp has a limit on how many times you can use the "Contact this user"07:37
vishin one day !07:37
ddecatora limit that one user can contact a person per day, right?07:38
vishddecator: nah , a limit on how many users you can contact. i was sending the mail to mentors07:38
vishand mentees07:39
vishi think it is 4 or 5 limit07:39
micahgvish: yes, so people don't spam, you should set up an ML if you want to send regular mails07:39
ddecatorvish: get the mentors' emails so you can just email us directly07:39
vishyeah , probably.07:39
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nperryCould somone wishlist 557112 and mark importance as low09:43
nperrybug 55711209:43
ubot2Launchpad bug 557112 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add the menu "Report Bug or Broken Website" (affects: 1) (heat: 54)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55711209:43
om26ernperry, its in daily builds but they dont want it in stable09:44
om26erthey meant google09:44
om26erand upstream bug is 'wont fix'09:44
nperryI was thinking that the OP wanted to report a bug for chromium in launchpad09:45
om26erI guess ubuntu will do something for this in Maverick09:46
nperryWhat is the best plan for this bug then?09:49
nperryNot to sure on how to move on09:49
om26ertitle should be edited to chromium need launchpad integration. maybe it can be done with global menus atleast09:51
vishnperry: it is a request to add apport hook [and support] for chromium  , it think there is already a bug somewhere for the "Report a bug""09:52
nperrycan't seem to find one09:53
nigelbvish: is chromium in the repos?09:59
nperryIt is, nigelb10:00
nperryHas been since karmic cycle10:00
nigelbso the bug is about apport integration?10:00
vishnigelb: there seems to be an option in the upstream version , but not in the Ubuntu one. maybe fta knows why it is removed10:00
nigelbvish: its a spec from last uds, to remove that menu option10:01
nigelbnot uds-m, uds-l10:01
vishprobably the upstream one points to chromium bugzilla  , so we need apport10:01
nperrynigelb: shouldn't something replace it?10:01
nigelbyep, apport will collect the information10:02
nigelbyou just need to run ubuntu-bug chromium-broswer as with any other package in ubuntu10:02
nperryMore user friendly would be to have an option in the menu to call that10:03
nigelbif it needs hook writing, I'll write it.  I've asked for more information and subscribed to the bug, so no worries10:03
nigelbI dunno how its done, anyway, let me hunt for the spec10:03
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nperryOk :)10:05
nigelbvish, nperry : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-bug-management10:05
nigelblook at seb's first action item10:06
nperryI see.10:13
nigelbcrimsun_: Are you on top of bug 70015? (you already have a debdiff ;) )10:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 70015 in kismet (Debian) (and 1 other project) "kismet description incorrect - does 802.11abg not just b (heat: 10)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7001510:18
nigelbvish: you could have mailed my @ubuntu.com id for bugsquad mentee assignment10:25
vishyeah , i was lazy.. maybe i should do it for others ;)10:25
vishstill few remaining10:25
nigelbmost of the more publically visible folks have their personal and ubuntu ID displayed prominently :)10:26
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nperryWhat is upstream for xserver-xorg-video-intel ?11:36
vishbdmurray: you should probably clean up you lp email ids ;)  not sure all of them are active11:38
BUGabundospeaking of LP11:39
BUGabundowhat's up with pidgin-develepors PPA?11:39
BUGabundotheir pgp key changed11:39
om26ernperry, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xorg11:41
om26erthere select component. Driver/intel11:41
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nperrybug 593231 seems a very odd bug, I'm unable to recreate it, doesn't happen with me. What further information could help, not to sure if this is a gdm problem12:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 593231 in ubuntu "new users can't log in (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59323112:40
jpdsnperry: You probably need the relevant bits of his auth.log.12:41
penguin42jpds: Except it looks like it's actually logged in12:42
nperrypenguin42: from my understanding offically he is.12:43
penguin42I'd see if there is a .xsession-errors in /home/test3 and get a copy of that (although it often contains lots of crud)12:43
penguin42I'd also get an ls -lR of /home/test312:44
nperryOk, thanks penguin4212:47
nperryStumped me a bit, but looking for a good bug to get my head into today :)12:47
penguin42maybe also a .xsession* - it almost looks like one of the things in the session is hanging before the panel comes up12:48
thekornvish, you assigned me two students, right?12:54
thekornjust one to make sure this is on purpose12:54
vishthekorn: yup12:54
thekornvish, does everyone get more than one?12:55
thekornor is it just because I'm sooooooooooooo nice ;)12:55
vishthekorn: well , one you are nice  , also , there is a shortage of people in the timezone 6-12utc ;)12:55
vishand no one in 6-9 utc12:56
thekornok, I'll try to get in contact with both at the beginning of next week12:56
thekornthanks for all your admin work12:56
thekornvish, but: two is enough ;)12:56
vishyeah , sure :)12:57
micahgvish: I can't do full time mentoring ATM13:00
micahgvish: I'm available for questions here and there13:00
vishmicahg: yeah , i realized that , hence I was adding them for ddecator , but those time slots are heavily unmanned :(13:00
micahgvish: what does the * mean13:01
vishshortage of mentors at those time13:02
micahgvish: no, it's on the specialty13:02
vishmicahg: also , i dont think some of the students might respond , they had applied a long while ago13:02
vishmicahg: yeah , david is interested in FF , and rockfx's time  only you are available :S13:04
micahgvish: no, next to firefox, there's a star in my specialty13:05
vishmicahg: yeah , i wanted to ask what that meant?13:05
* micahg is asking13:05
micahgwas there something on the previous page13:05
vish"micahg> vish: what does the * mean  "    oh , you were asking about the '*' , i was thinking you were asking about the slots or something else :D13:07
vishmicahg: i'm not sure , it was there and i didnt edit it :)13:07
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samfreedOn lucid, openoffice silently fails. This is new in last few days. 64bit.13:54
nigelbmicahg: there are a couple of xulrunner and firefox bugs with patches.. can help?13:57
micahgnigelb: sure, but my battery is about to die13:58
penguin42samfreed: hmm there was an ooo update in the last day or two14:03
penguin42samfreed: If you start it from the command line what happens?14:03
micahgnigelb: can we go through them tomorrow about this time?14:04
samfreedpenguin42:fails silently14:06
penguin42samfreed: Do you know if you are running the OOo quickstart thing?14:07
micahgoowriter wfm14:07
samfreedpenguin42:No, I dont know. How do I find out?14:07
penguin42samfreed: not sure, but I was wondering if an old one was stuck - does ps -eaf|grep openoffice show anything?14:08
samfreedoowriter wfm just sits there.14:08
nigelbmicahg: ok, go recharge :)14:09
samfreedok, the "ps ...." this found some 3 splashes... killed 'em and they work!14:11
nigelbbug 54568114:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 545681 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) "Movie player requires DVD subpicture decoder but reports not available (affects: 8) (heat: 68)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54568114:18
nigelbvish: question.14:22
nigelbdid you take a student youself?14:23
vishnigelb: nope ;)14:23
vishnigelb: just admin :p14:23
nigelbvish: I suspect that's why you volunteered to be admin :p14:23
vishnigelb: dude dont think it is easy , since morning i've been trying to get this done :(14:24
vishtook nearly 6hrs to sort and assign students :s14:24
vishwell , there was a huge backlog of students14:24
* penguin42 is looking at a bug 592892 which I guess is either linux or ubiquity, but it doesn't have any hardware detail - should I ask him to do an ubuntu-bug -u 592892 (is that the right syntax)14:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 592892 in ubuntu "Hardware RAID enabled without confirmation in desktop install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59289214:25
nigelbvish: Didn't say it was easy.  I appreciate the hard work you've done, but I'm just pulling your leg :D14:25
WilceyThanks everyone for supporting ubuntu (: WIlcey Signing Off14:26
nigelbvish: do we have a list of things that mentees should be taught about?14:27
nigelbperhaps we can work on this over the next few weeks?14:27
vishnigelb: well the basics. they should know what the triage wiki mentions.14:28
vishand know what status to assign , and how to look after private/public bugs14:28
nigelbwell, are we mentoring just for basics or are we mentoring until they get to bug control level?14:29
vishto get to BC14:29
nigelbthen, I think we can have some kind of list that mentors can work though14:29
nigelbmakes work easier IMHO14:29
micahgvish: nigelb: keep in mind, the big differences in bug control are: Importance, Won't Fix/Triaged statuses, and Private bgus14:30
vishmicahg: yeah , I'm not sure what else nigelb thinks is missing14:30
nigelbno no14:30
nigelbI'm being vague14:30
nigelbI'm talking of something like perhaps a "lesson plan" or a structured progress plan or something14:31
vishnigelb: get out of classrom mode ;p , just wing it ;)14:31
nigelbvish: this is mostly learning project mode, but you get the gist14:32
vishnigelb: yeah , sure.. if you come up with something , we can add it to the wiki list14:32
* micahg thinks the 3 things I mentioned, plus a comfortability that the triager's responses are in line with what we'd expect14:32
nigelbmicahg: that makes me wish for something like "follow user" that gnome bugzilla has14:33
nigelbso the mentor can get a mail of every response that the OP has done14:33
micahgnigelb: I subscribe to the packages I help maintain and watch for replies14:33
* micahg is a little behind on bugmail :)14:34
nigelbmicahg: I don't do any package wise triaging14:34
nigelbI just triage patches these days14:34
micahgnigelb: there's the gmane link that hggdh set up14:34
micahgnigelb: if you have the ff-lp-improvements14:34
nigelbmicahg: oh yeah! that works :)14:34
* nigelb hugs micahg 14:34
* micahg is reminded that he forgot about the last hugda14:35
nigelbwhat is brian curtis's LP ID?14:35
micahgnigelb: https://edge.launchpad.net/people14:35
nigelbwow, that is new14:36
micahgbeen around for a while AFAIK14:36
borschtyhi, does it make sense to mark bugs that have been fixed long time ago but been marked as fixed or would that just generate useless bugmail spam?14:37
borschty*not been marked as fixed14:38
nigelbI would vote to mark them fixed, so that people who come there via google know that issue is fixed14:38
micahgborschty: if you're sure it was a bug and was fixed, you can mark fix released and when if you know it14:38
nigelbit would nice to find the commit or changelog entry for it14:38
nigelbvish: I was thinking of a "how to triage" classroom session now that we have new mentees14:39
nigelbwell, multiple sessions at multiple times14:39
borschtyok, i'm just going through some old reports that i'm subscribed to14:40
nigelbwe could reduce the burden on mentors14:40
micahgom26er: a note, only the desktop team marks bugs fix committed when upstream fixes them AFAIK14:42
om26erno everyone does that14:43
nigelband thats because they intent to backport those fixes14:43
micahgom26er: no14:43
ubot2Factoid 'status' not found14:43
* micahg needs to add that factois14:43
micahgom26er: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status14:43
ubot2Factoid 'bugstatus' not found14:44
nigelbmicahg: can you just type out the factoid, I'll ask jussi to add14:44
micahgYou can find out about how Ubuntu uses bug statuses here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status14:45
micahgnigelb: I think maybe it should be statuses or bugstatuses14:45
om26ermicahg, for empathy, gwibber or evolution when the bug is fixed upstream its marked fix committed at launchpad14:45
micahgom26er: that's all the desktop team :)14:45
micahgGNOME specifically :)14:45
micahgMozilla team uses it if a fix is committed to our bzr branch14:46
micahgother general usage is when a fix is in -proposed14:47
ubot2Factoid 'bugstatus' not found14:47
nigelbwell, its in - will be synced in a few14:47
micahgnigelb: thanks14:47
nigelbmicahg: Happpy to help :)14:47
micahgnigelb: maybe we should have a wiki page for bug control factoids :)14:47
nigelback, I'll get to it, just PM me the list that you know of14:48
nigelboh, wait, etherpad \o/14:48
nigelbkeeping adding the ones that you know of here14:49
micahg502 error :)14:49
micahgnow it works14:49
nigelbtry again14:49
* om26er is confused14:49
borschtyi'm not quite sure what to do with this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/196811 i'm the original reporter, but somehow the according patch never made it to the kernel-package and then some time later the whole driver got dropped and replaced by something else, that does not show the original problem anymore but has some other problems on its own. I think it should be marked as invalid and new reports for t14:50
borschtyhe other problems of the new driver should be opened instead of hijacking this old and unrelated report14:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 196811 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "kernel driver doesn't set Quickcam Express as v4l-capable (dups: 1) (heat: 40)" [Medium,Won't fix]14:50
nigelbborschty: er, you mgiht want to talk to JFO about that.  He'll be around on weekdays14:50
borschtyok, thanks14:51
nigelb!apport is <reply>Apport is a crash intercepter and bug reporting tool in Ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport14:57
nigelbvish: poke15:01
nigelbwe need a bug mentorship factoid, what to brainstorm the name and text of it?15:01
vishnigelb: we can have channel specific factoids , so !mentors is enough15:05
vishso if we go !mentors in -bugs it will be enough15:05
nigelbare you sure that is possible?15:05
* nigelb isn't very bot-savy15:05
nigelbok, text to reply?15:05
micahgnigelb: there's probably a parameter you have to specify to make it this channel only15:06
vishthat the irc admins will take care of15:06
nigelbasking the good folks in #ubuntu-irc :)15:06
nigelbvish: what should the factoid say?15:06
nperrypenguin42: the bug has been updated with what was asked for15:07
nperrynothing much on xsession-errors15:08
vishnigelb: "Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Apply to the Bugsquad Mentorship team : https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship"15:08
nperryand ls -lR looks normal15:08
vishnigelb: wait15:08
nigelbok, waiting15:08
penguin42nperry: Sorry, which bug? (i've got a few in my head at the moment)15:09
nigelbvish: Ok, I know how to do it.  Just give the text once you're ready with ith15:10
nperrybug 59323115:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 593231 in ubuntu "new users can't log in (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59323115:11
vish!mentors-#ubuntu-bugs is <reply> Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Read the wiki for information about requesting a bugsquad mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors15:11
ubot2vish: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:11
vishnigelb: ^15:11
vishbleh bad ubot215:12
nigelb!mentors-#ubuntu-bugs is <reply>Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Read the wiki for information about requesting a bugsquad mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors15:12
ubot2nigelb: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:12
vishnigelb: use !mentor15:12
vishprobably no need extra s15:12
penguin42nperry: There are a bunch of polkit warnings/errors in there that look suspicious, but I'm not a polkit expert - and I wonder if they are related to him trying it in a guest session rather than the real problem15:14
nigelbvish: lemme talk to jussi15:14
ubot2Factoid 'mentor' not found15:17
nigelbvish: wait for bot sync15:17
BUGa_vacantionsbot doesn't like you15:17
* vish kicks ubot2 15:17
nailoraopen office creates some world-writable config files. is this a bug?15:24
nailorarun the following command to list them: "find $HOME/.openoffice.org/3/ -perm -o+w -type f -ls"15:24
penguin42I don't seem to have any15:27
nailorai checked on three different machines and the "main user" always had some. additional users that do not log in regularly / dont use open office do not have these files.15:34
bdmurrayvish: they all are active15:34
vishbdmurray: ooh , how do you have 2 @ubuntu addy? :)15:35
nailoramoving the config dir away and starting open office does not recreate them.15:35
nailorabut nonetheless they exist on three independent machines15:35
* vish got only 1 :( 15:35
nigelbbdmurray: hey, is the graph up?15:49
bdmurraynigelb: not yet but the number is being recorded15:55
nigelbbdmurray: great, thanks :)16:00
ubot2Factoid 'mentors' not found16:01
nigelbgah, not yet synced16:01
ubot2Looking for a helping hand with bug triage? Read the wiki for information about requesting a bugsquad mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors16:20
vishnigelb: ^ ;)16:20
vishno "s" :)16:21
nigelbvish: \o/16:44
nigelbmicahg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Factoids17:09
micahgnigelb: nice, now we just need it linked from somewhere useful17:13
nigelbI'll link it from knowledge base17:13
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Sabynigelb: Hey, I'm Jasneet, just received your male for the bug triaging mentor program17:59
nigelbSaby: ah, hello18:00
Sabyhow are you?18:01
nigelbgood, and I hope you're good too18:01
nigelbso you can take a poke at triaging18:01
nigelbplease ask me if you're confused and need help18:01
Sabywell i currently dont have ubuntu as i have sent my laptop for replacement, i'm downloading the 32 bit version of 10.04 and will be using it on vmware till the time my laptop comes back where ubuntu will be installed in dual boot mode18:02
nigelbok, no problem :)18:03
nigelbSaby: my IRC is connected almost all the time.  If I'm not around, I'm probably away, but I will respond when I'm back18:04
Sabyalright :)18:05
nigelbAlso, feel free to ask generally too, lots of helpful folks around here :)18:06
Sabysure :)18:06
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bcurtiswx3vish: good work with the mentor stuff :D19:08
vishthanks :)19:08
* vish was a bit sad i hadnt assigned any students to qense :s19:09
vishbut yay , just now one students applied :D19:09
bcurtiswx3do they fit qense's time zone?19:10
vishyup :)19:10
nigelbbcurtiswx3: got my mail?19:11
bcurtiswx3nigelb: yes, I will look at it more later today most likely. Thanks :)19:25
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penguin42oh grrrr - launchpad just got an internal error and lost my bug data19:53
yofelmeh, I wished there was a queue for the apport retracer displayed somewhere, filed a crash 2 days ago and still not retraced :(20:32
BUGabundowouldn't that be a breach in security?20:34
yofelwell, the bug is private, nothing more I can do about it20:35
yofelbut the retrace taking longer than a day is broken behaviour IMO anyway -.-20:35
yofelbug 592824 btw. "qtcreator.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in QBasicAtomicInt::ref()"20:36
ubot2yofel: Bug 592824 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/592824 is private20:36
yofelqtcreator crashes on launch here20:37
keesyofel: is the retracer subscribed to that bug?  I can't see it (and I'm in the retracer group)21:42
yofelhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~apport is subscribed to the bug21:42
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