[00:00] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it took me about 1 hour to figure out this ionice: execvp failed: No such file or directory meant zsync wasnt installed
[00:01] <BUGabundo> lolololol
[00:01] <BUGabundo> hahahahhaahahahaah
[00:02] <gnomefreak> i just wrote up a script for my friend took me a couple of hours i moved it to /usr/local/bin than rm it from there and all 50+ lines gone i had to redo it
[00:02]  * gnomefreak not having best of days
[00:03] <gnomefreak> ok smoke and again think if i forgot anything that cant wait.
[00:06] <yofel> wth... X just locked up, had to kill it
[00:07] <BUGabundo> ff did the same to me
[00:07] <BUGabundo> in the middle of 48GB download
[00:07] <Ian_corne> BUGabundo: still no crash on chromium
[00:07] <BUGabundo> nice
[00:09] <yofel> hm, I found this in .xsession-errors.old, this seems to be the beginning of the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/449402/
[00:12] <yofel> here are the last 1k lines from .old, if anyone finds anything else... http://paste.ubuntu.com/449403/
[00:18] <funkyHat> How can I reset my user's screen resolution setting in gnome (bearing in mind I can't log in to a graphical session)? Google tells me rm -r ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/screen/* but there is no screen dir inside gnome
[00:19] <BUGabundo> funkyHat: edit xorg.conf?
[00:19] <funkyHat> BUGabundo: not present
[00:19] <BUGabundo> ahh
[00:19] <BUGabundo> dpkg --reconfigure it?
[00:19] <funkyHat> BUGabundo: and I stopped being able to log in after unticking the box that says "same image on every monitor"
[00:19] <BUGabundo> doesn't ring a bell
[00:20] <funkyHat> in system > preferences > monitors
[00:20] <funkyHat> In fact the screen went blank when I did that, and does the same every time I log in since
[00:22] <funkyHat> So it seems that the ati driver can't cope with dual heads. the whole system locks up (no ssh access either) so it has no chance to try and restore previous settings. also fglrx isn't working with 2.6.34+ as far as I'm aware, so I'm a little stuck :D
[00:22] <BUGabundo> either that or the new X
[00:24] <funkyHat> Well dkms is failing with 2.6.34 and 2.6.35 but works with a 2.6.32 that I still have lying around. Although even on 2.6.32 X doesn't come up if I pick fglrx... hrm
[00:26] <bjsnider> that is typical of fglrx and new kernels
[00:27] <bjsnider> i'm sure support will be along some time with int he next 5 months or so
[00:28] <matrixa1> funkyHat, that explains a lot of the adventures I've had with dkms today
[00:28] <funkyHat> bjsnider: but breakage with 2.6.32 (even after the module compiled successfully) is more likely to be to do with the new X server, right?
[00:29] <funkyHat> I will try to get X running to a degree so I can file a bug about that... the log said somehing about mismatched versions, but I'm on windows right now and can't quite remember
[00:31] <bjsnider> funkyHat, affirmative. but don't look for new kernel support any time soon
[00:39] <funkyHat> bjsnider: should I file against fglrx or xorg? http://pastebin.com/8vrahciv here's the relevant server log with the errors near the end
[00:40] <funkyHat> [    20.351] [atiddxSetup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.1.901, required X.org 7.5.1.0
[00:40] <funkyHat> or maybe dkms? arg
[00:45] <gnomefreak> funkyHat: that may be the Xorg breakage
[00:45] <gnomefreak> they are held back, maybe you updated them?
[00:46] <funkyHat> gnomefreak: i've only used aptitude safe-upgrade since the announcement about xorg breakage
[00:47] <gnomefreak> didnt know there was an announcement  i never got safe upgrade to work so i used smartpm and it didnt hold back
[00:48] <funkyHat> Looks like I have 7.5 versions of both xorg and xserver-xorg, so I really don't know what to make of that error
[00:49] <gnomefreak> yep here to and i finally got nvidia working
[00:49] <gnomefreak> i havent heard of anything else failing to build against .35 kenrel other than nvidia
[00:50] <gnomefreak> but it has been fixed (maybe it was building against x
[00:51] <funkyHat> But none of this sheds any light on why the ati driver is crapping out when I try to log in since trying to set up dual display...
[00:51] <gnomefreak> give me a minute ill look at the logs just need to finish something
[00:54] <Daekdroom> Will it automatically go X.org 7.5 if I update from 10.04 now?
[00:55] <funkyHat> Daekdroom: if not now then at some point it will
[00:55] <Daekdroom> funkyHat, yeah, but will the update from 10.04 make it install held-back packages?
[00:56] <gnomefreak> Daekdroom: use update-manager to do it and the broken packages will be held back
[00:56] <gnomefreak> do not install the held back packages
[00:56] <Daekdroom> gnomefreak, ok, I should install any PPA I have before I do it, right?
[00:56]  * gnomefreak thinks about updatingt topic
[00:56] <Daekdroom> *uninstall
[00:56] <gnomefreak> Daekdroom: update-manager will disable PPAs
[00:56] <gnomefreak> for you
[00:56] <Daekdroom> Great.
[00:58] <gnomefreak> funkyHat: your on the 32 kenrel or Lucid
[00:58] <gnomefreak> and 32kenrel
[00:58] <funkyHat> gnomefreak: yes, I was using the 32 kernel because fglrx won't compile against anything newer
[00:58] <gnomefreak> k thought so
[00:59] <gnomefreak> funkyHat: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show anything different than what you posted?
[01:00] <funkyHat> gnomefreak: that was the file Xorg.1.log posted in its entirety
[01:00] <Jordan_U> 6/away away
[01:00] <psusi> is emacs broken for anyone else in mav?  I get "X protocol error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) on protocol request 2"
[01:00] <funkyHat> err... or it may have been Xorg.0.log.old ⢁| I forget
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ok that should be it than i dont think .0. would add much to it. Yes it does look like it failed to build on X nvidia was just fixed the other day so maybe atri will be soon as well
[01:01] <funkyHat> In any case I have the same error occuring in several of the Xorg.* log files
[01:02] <gnomefreak> psusi: no but i use vim/gedit more so than i play with emacs
[01:02] <gnomefreak> personal prefferences
[01:03] <psusi> guess I'll have to run it in terminal mode until it's fixed... now to try packaging the latest lvm2 with snapshot merge support ;)
[01:12] <funkyHat> http://pastebin.com/p4kzw8uq is Xorg.0.log with the radeon driver in use... I don't see any issues but I only have a blank screen, no response even from the numlock key
[01:16] <funkyHat> well I need sleep so I'll have a go with this again tomorrow
[01:17] <gnomefreak> funkyHat: good night
[01:38] <BUGabundo> nite, you owls
[02:06] <psusi> anyone else having the battery power management icon show up in the indicator applet even though it shouldn't?
[02:06] <IdleOne> psusi: yes
[02:09] <gnomefreak> yes
[02:09] <gnomefreak> bluetooth and a few others
[02:09] <gnomefreak> night everyone
[02:10] <IdleOne> night'
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Hi
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Anyone active?
[02:59] <ripps> hmm? when did this unversal assisstance applet show up? Another indicator that just wastes precious panel space
[03:34] <sebsebseb> ripps: still about?
[03:34] <ripps> sebsebseb: huh?
[03:35] <sebsebseb> ripps: saw you put a message here earlier
[03:35] <sebsebseb> things seem quite dead in here tonight
[03:35] <sebsebseb> and I wanted to share a link here, but  like no one to share with that is active
[03:35] <ripps> sebsebseb: oh sorry, I've rebooted since then. Kinda forgot what I said.
[03:36] <ripps> let me look at my irssi log
 hmm? when did this unversal assisstance applet show up? Another indicator that just wastes precious panel space
[03:36] <sebsebseb> thats what you put
[03:37] <ripps> yeah, I've been in a lot of rooms, talking about alot of things.
[03:37] <ripps> I still have the unversal access indicator.
[03:38] <ripps> where did it come from?
[04:54] <ripps> Okay, I have gallium for -radeon installed, let's see if I can run Unity now.
[04:55] <ripps> nope, I don't even think it's getting to the point where it starts rendering
[06:52] <knittl> hm, what does not work with nouveau: suspend
[09:11] <shadeslayer> any idea where qt4-doc-html installs the docs too?
[09:28] <cwillu> shadeslayer, you're aware of dpkg-query -l qt4-doc-html right?
[09:29] <shadeslayer> cwillu: no :(
[09:29] <shadeslayer> cwillu: btw its -L ;)
[09:29] <shadeslayer> cwillu: thanks anyways :P
[09:29] <cwillu> close enoug
[09:29] <cwillu> always get the case wrong on those :p
[09:35]  * gnomefreak can honestly say todate has started badly, nothing can rip a cd, likely it is not mounting. its 4:33am
[09:48] <gnomefreak> is anyone able to use sound-juicer to rip a cd?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> i thought it wasnt mounting the cdrom but the players wok just none of the rippers
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ok other cdrom works
[10:12] <gnomefreak> damn
[10:13] <Ian_corne> that are what? :p
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Ian_corne: what are what?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> Ian_corne: oh yeah ran out of room
[10:14] <gnomefreak> not like people read teh topic
[10:14] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[10:15] <Ian_corne> I do!
[10:15] <Ian_corne> and I bet BUGabundo does too
[10:16] <BUGabundo> I do, I do
[10:16] <BUGabundo> erk what do I do ?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: broke my X packages ;)
[10:17] <BUGabundo> of course I did
[10:17] <BUGabundo> I broke it all with an hammer
[10:19] <gnomefreak> i love how sound-juicer estimates the tine it takes to extract songs.
[10:19] <gnomefreak> oh nevermind that is the duration for playback
[10:20] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[10:20] <gnomefreak> way too early for me
[10:21] <gnomefreak> oh its later than i thought. ok this tells me im going to have a fairly bad day
[10:40] <gnomefreak> much better :)
[10:57] <BUGa_vacations> oohhhh
[10:57] <BUGa_vacations> so no more we are aperciated for running a full last dev cycle?
[11:01] <Ian_corne> :p
[11:01] <gnomefreak> no need for it plus topic was too long
[11:02] <BUGa_vacations> "no need" sure
[11:02] <BUGa_vacations> you know what!!!!
[11:02] <BUGa_vacations> I'm leaving!!!!
[11:02] <BUGa_vacations> for an all week
[11:02] <BUGa_vacations> just because you said that
[11:02] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:03] <gnomefreak> we can always add it in topic in #ubuntu
[11:03]  * red2kic adds "RIP BUGa_vacations -- He'll never be forgotten.  J/K. He's just going on a vacation"
[11:05] <gnomefreak> he needs a vacation
[11:05] <gnomefreak> deserves
[11:07] <red2kic> BUGa_vacations: Where are you going? :)
[11:08] <BUGa_vacations> algarve
[11:08] <BUGa_vacations> 600kms of home
[11:08] <BUGa_vacations> sun, beach, swimming pool, all day, all nite
[11:08] <BUGa_vacations> and hot babes :D
[11:31] <BUGabundo> oh damn it
[11:31] <BUGabundo> gnome-do is eating the cpu again
[11:31] <BUGabundo> hadn't that since lucid :(
[11:36] <om26er> maverick wont ship with gtk3 ?
[11:37] <BUGabundo> beats me
[12:51] <nessita> Hi guys -- over the weekend I updated Xorg (I didn't read the topic), since I was having problems with the video drivers. Is there any way of getting my X back? the error I'm getting is: xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  no server "X" in PATH
[12:52] <nessita> I'm running maverick with the latest updates and I work for Canonical, that's why I'm running it :-)
[12:59] <Sensiva> nessita that topic was set only few hours ago
[13:00] <yofel> gnomefreak: what's broken with X?
[13:01] <nessita> Sensiva: well, I fell less dummy then :-)
[13:01] <nessita> Sensiva: is there any way of having X working again?
[13:02] <Sensiva> nessita I don't know any other ways to downgrade but synaptic
[13:02] <Sensiva> Nope I don't know
[13:02] <nessita> Sensiva: can't it be done with aptitude, for example?
[13:02] <yofel> nessita: can you check if all X packages are installed? No such file or directory is a bit odd...
[13:02] <knittl> suspend does not work with nouveau :(
[13:03] <nessita> yofel: when upgrading the xorg packages, the only one that was removed was nvidia-173 which conflicted with xorg
[13:03] <yofel> and you can downgrade with aptitude, but I only know how to do it with the ncurses UI
[13:03] <nessita> yofel: shoot!
[13:03] <knittl> or rather resume is what's not working
[13:03] <yofel> nvidia is there but X not?
[13:05] <nessita> yofel: how can I check that?
[13:06] <knittl> when resuming my screen flashes white and black
[13:06] <yofel> nessita: first: is xserver-xorg is installed?
[13:06] <knittl> good i don't suffer from epilepsy :D
[13:06] <yofel> -is
[13:06] <nessita> yofel: yes :-) (I have the xinit binary)
[13:07] <yofel> xinit is part of xinit, X is part of xserver-xorg
[13:08] <nessita> yofel: ok, I'll check (need to reboot for that). If xserver-org wasn't installed... what should I do?
[13:08] <BUGabundo> nessita: just change to x-edgers ppa
[13:08] <BUGabundo> all packages should be built there
[13:08] <yofel> hm, well, check if all xserver-* packages are installed, and make sure they are
[13:09] <yofel> BUGabundo: X works fine here without edgers..
[13:09] <nessita> yofel: if they are not there, shall I install them by hand?
[13:09] <nessita> "by hand" I mean
[13:10] <yofel> yes, maybe reinstall them, or run debsums to check if something is missing, but I can't think of any precise reason why the X binary would go missing, except the package being removed
[13:13] <nessita> yofel: ok, thanks, I'll report back
[13:45] <BUGabundo> !commands
[13:45] <BUGabundo> !controls
[13:49] <BUGabundo> bbl
[14:40]  * om26er wonders why are we still at gnom 2.30
[14:41] <edgy> Hi, kdm button to choose the sessions is not responding to any click, is this known?
[14:43] <edgy> can any one try it and confirm please?
[15:09] <yofel> edgy: confirmed, actually no button works there anymore. I didn't notice as I usually just use tab and enter ^^
[15:17] <edgy> yofel: thanks a lot
[15:20] <bjsnider> om26er, as opposed to which version of gnome?
[15:37] <om26er> bjsnider, 2.31.3
[15:40] <nessita> yofel: you were right, xserver packages were uninstalled. There are conflicts with the nvidia, driver, do you know how to install nvidia drivers on maverick?
[15:43] <ilumi> in the 10.10 alpha, i have a double task bar, is that a feature or what?
[15:45] <ilumi> kubuntu that is
[15:45] <ilumi> i have a taskbar on top of the screen
[15:45] <ilumi> and the same one on the bottom
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> it's a bug
[15:46] <ilumi> okay, is it ok to just remove?
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> It should be fixed before alpha2, but for now you can just delete one of the panels
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> yes
[15:47] <ilumi> thank you
[15:48] <ripps> Does anybody know what class the google-chrome extension menus are? I'm trying to use a specific compiz animation with them.
[15:51] <bjsnider> om26er, i doubt it's very easy to do considering that the gnome and canonical teams are far apart in terms of design philosophy. heavy patching is necessary to create the ubuntu gnome over a plain gnome like fedora would provide
[15:51] <bjsnider> caconical's gnome is almost functioning as a fork at this point
[15:52] <om26er> bjsnider, my question was when the gnome packages will be updated in Maverick to the development series.
[15:53] <bjsnider> in other words, 'shut up, he explained'
[15:56] <om26er> bjsnider, are you talking in #ubuntu+1 ?
[16:01] <funkyHat> Here is a log of the open source radeon driver crashing on a fully updated Maverick: http://pastebin.com/UG33bL9Z
[16:02] <funkyHat> Is this just happening because I accidentally updated some X stuff I shouldn't have?
[16:02] <funkyHat> GDM works, but after logging the displays both turn off and the system locks up
[16:07] <ilumi> the joinon says dont update xorg, its broken
[16:07] <funkyHat> joinon?
[16:08] <funkyHat> I haven't updated anything that would have caused other things to be removed, as per the announcement on devel-discuss
[16:08] <Pici> funkyHat: The topic
[16:08] <funkyHat> Ah, so it's more broken than that ⢁D
[16:09] <funkyHat> funfun
[16:10] <funkyHat> I had already updated before the topic was set
[16:48] <drdozer> hi
[16:48] <drdozer> I see Xorg is broken :( I was hoping to try out the mesa 7.8 series drivers
[16:48] <drdozer> is it possible to test-drive these drivers with some hackery under lucid?
[18:09] <arand> Finally a bit of updates :/
[18:13] <arand> "+ [cjwatson] enable installer support for btrfs: INPROGRESS" woop! woop! keep it up!
[22:13] <bukayoo> Kworld ATSC 120 tuner not working with the -35 kernel anymore but works with the -34 kernels.  Any idea?
[22:19] <Daijoubu> Hello, is there a way to install Ubuntu 10.10 with full encryption? LIke with Fedora for example? One checkbox and then enter Key for encryption?
[22:31] <BUGabundo> Daijoubu: there was in all 9.x and 10.04
[22:31] <BUGabundo> I expect it remains the same
[22:33] <emma> Daijoubu: I use full disk encryption.
[22:37] <BUGabundo> hey emma
[22:37] <BUGabundo> long time no see
[22:38] <emma> hi there BUGabundo thanks :)
[22:50] <phillw> hi folks, with 10.10 is the pae kernel for 32 bit going to be the default?
[22:54]  * funkyHat tries out the xorg-edgers ppa, although he isn't expecting too much ⢁)
[22:54] <BUGabundo> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[22:54] <funkyHat> BUGabundo: hm?
[23:00] <arand> phillw: It is already.
[23:01] <arand> phillw: provided you have 3GB+ of available memory, and a internet connection to download it automatically.
[23:04] <phillw> thanks, Arand we've just got the 1st alpha through for lubuntu and it was queried, from what I could find, with 10.04 it would go get if there was more than 3GB Ram. Also, apart from the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/587186 what goes with i586?
[23:05]  * phillw waves at ubottu :-) 
[23:08] <mbt> Anyone know when GNOME will be updated to the unstable release in Maverick?
[23:09] <arand> phillw: I have no idea to be honest.