[00:00] <tpjmiami> just wondering if aveilleux or anyone can help
[00:00] <zkriesse> tpjmiami: ASK AWAY!
[00:00]  * zkriesse wonders if people think that I don't count
[00:05] <tpjmiami> external mic wont' work
[00:05] <tpjmiami> new ubuntu user
[00:05] <tpjmiami> not recognised in sound pref or vol control
[00:05] <aveilleux> zkreisse, you're not a perso
[00:05] <aveilleux> perosn
[00:05] <aveilleux> see, I can't even spell it right, you're such a not-person
[00:05] <tpjmiami> zkreisse is a bot?
[00:05] <aveilleux> No no, hehe
[00:06]  * zkriesse is a bot
[00:08] <tpjmiami> heh
[00:08] <tpjmiami> anyway, still w/o a working mic
[00:09] <zkriesse> Mic. A device used by the human race to record random sound waves interpreted as speech
[00:12] <zkriesse> MIC!
[00:12] <acerimmer> !mic
[00:12] <ubot2> Factoid 'mic' not found
[00:12] <zkriesse> buzzard: A bird which scavenges for food usually found on dead animals
[00:14] <collinp> !microphone
[00:14] <ubot2> Factoid 'microphone' not found
[00:14] <collinp> *sigh*
[00:14] <collinp> !audio
[00:14] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[00:15] <zkriesse> collinp: PING!
[00:15] <collinp> Uh, pong?
[00:16] <zkriesse> collinp: MEETING?!?!!
[00:18] <collinp> tpjmiami: You can look at the links in that factoid, and if you still need help then feel free to come back.
[00:22] <tpjmiami> am looking at the links now
[00:23] <paultag> dude
[00:23] <paultag> I just fell in love with a new band
[00:24] <ekseniks> who?
[00:24] <goodtime> 2nd time i froze up today
[00:24] <paultag> ekseniks, Venetian Snares
[00:25] <goodtime> ????
[00:25] <ekseniks> do they sound like anyone else?
[00:26] <paultag> ekseniks, nope, that's why I love them. They remixed the hell out of classical tracks
[00:26] <paultag> ekseniks, let me find it on youtubes
[00:26] <ekseniks> do you know apocalyptica?
[00:26] <ekseniks> i recently found them
[00:27] <ekseniks> its like 4 guys with cellos
[00:27] <ekseniks> they started doing metalica remixes but they do other stuff now
[00:28] <tpjmiami> ok, none of them worked
[00:28] <buzzard> buzzard = bird of prey of the genus Buteo (in Europe); neat hawks; also vultures in the US
[00:28] <zkriesse> paultag: sup pint o' beer
[00:28] <tpjmiami> recorded test wav file, and no sound
[00:29] <paultag> zkriesse, yo
[00:29] <paultag> ekseniks, they are ill
[00:29] <paultag> ekseniks, I can't find the track I love on yins tube
[00:29] <ekseniks> whats the songs name?
[00:30] <paultag> ekseniks, it's in like finish. Let me see if I can copy paste it
[00:31] <ekseniks> lol ye i noticed the names are hard to pronounce
[00:31] <tpjmiami> should i do this 14-step troubleshooting by typing this:
[00:31] <tpjmiami> wget -O alsa-info.sh http://212.20.107.51/alsa-info.sh
[00:32] <tpjmiami> as an fyi, this page suggests it can be an alsa config issue:
[00:32] <tpjmiami> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381013&page=2
[00:33] <paultag> ekseniks, Kétsarkú Mozgalom
[00:33] <paultag> ekseniks, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNRHbUBPanc
[00:33] <paultag> ekseniks, found it :)
[00:34] <ekseniks> jamming it off listen.grooveshark.com
[00:35] <paultag> word
[00:35] <paultag> ekseniks, dude this track does not have two bars of the same beat. Amazing
[00:35] <ekseniks> build up is epic!
[00:36] <tpjmiami> any ideas guys?
[00:36] <paultag> tpjmiami, still the same audio issue?
[00:38] <ekseniks> it has like a drum and bass feel to a grungy/classical/psy its insane :D
[00:38] <paultag> ekseniks, yeah man, I'm in love
[00:38] <tpjmiami> yup
[00:38] <tpjmiami> no external mic
[00:39] <paultag> tpjmiami, let me meditate on it. Did you run windows before this?
[00:39] <tpjmiami> sadly yes, vista on my acer aspire 5050
[00:39] <paultag> tpjmiami, did it work under windows?
[00:39] <tpjmiami> worked perfectly under vista
[00:39] <paultag> tpjmiami, ok, so it's 100% a linux issue
[00:39] <paultag> tpjmiami, let me meditate on it and think about it
[00:39] <tpjmiami> both blocking of the speakers and mic input
[00:39] <paultag> tpjmiami, aye
[00:40] <paultag> tpjmiami, might be a sound card issue, /me thinks
[00:40] <paultag> tpjmiami, what's the sound card?
[00:40] <paultag> BRB
[00:40] <tpjmiami> remind me what terminal command i should type to answer that
[00:41] <ddecator> lspci
[00:41] <paultag> /back
[00:41] <paultag> heyya ddecator
[00:42] <tpjmiami> how can i paste the output from that command?
[00:42] <tpjmiami> or tell me what line i need for u
[00:43] <paultag> tpjmiami, lspci | pastebinit
[00:43] <ddecator> hey paultag, just getting on for a sec to leave a message for someone, figured i'd answer the question real quick :p
[00:43] <paultag> heyya DarkwingDuck
[00:43] <paultag> ddecator, :)
[00:43] <paultag> erm, DarkwingDuck_ *
[00:44] <tpjmiami> pastebin.com/yTT4seSY
[00:44] <paultag> tpjmiami, just FYI -- ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[00:44] <tpjmiami> ok
[00:45] <paultag> tpjmiami, well this is good
[00:45] <paultag> tpjmiami, there are lots of bug reports on it
[00:46] <DarkwingDuck> Hey paultag
[00:46] <paultag> brb
[00:47] <tpjmiami> paultag: lots of pain on this, yes
[00:48] <tpjmiami> paultag: any chance this could explain it?  mocha's feb 25th comment on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381013&page=2
[00:53] <tpjmiami> paultag: will log off now, back here tomorrow night
[00:53] <tpjmiami> appreciate any leads
[00:53] <tpjmiami> thks and see u then
[00:55] <paultag> damnit!
[00:55] <paultag> I just got back
[00:55] <paultag> Oh well. I need to hit the washroom anyway
[00:56] <ekseniks> lol cheers dude
[01:14] <smeag0l> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/J7qcXN5H would anybody please look at this pastebin there is a suspicious line at 70 and 71
[01:15] <smeag0l> after running chkrootkit
[01:19] <nUboon2Age> The following suspicious files and directories were found:  /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/.noinit /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/.path /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.3/.autoreg /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/.autoreg
[01:25] <kdotj> away
[05:00] <tenach> hello
[05:08]  * fulldarkness is away: like mklove
[06:30] <kermiac> anyone know of a good wiki page or tutorial on backing up evolution?
[06:32] <kermiac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Evolution is a bit lacking & I need to point someone in the right direction as I don't have time to walk them through the whole process atm
[06:36] <kermiac> nvm - found something that should be enough. http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_completely_backup_evolution.3F
[13:21] <zkriesse> hello Bryn
[13:22] <Bryn> hi
[13:23] <Bryn> does anyone know how to change the install path for software installed through the package manager? I'd like to have it on a different partition, so I can keep software / data separate to Ubuntu itself
[13:24] <Bryn> I'm not very familiar with Ubuntu, I had it like that in Windows, all programs on a different partition, is it more acceptable to keep software in the same partition in Ubuntu?
[13:37] <zkriesse> !installing software
[13:37] <ubot2> zkriesse: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:38] <zkriesse> !software
[13:38] <ubot2> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[13:38] <ekseniks> lol
[13:38] <ekseniks> stop confusing the bot :D
[13:38] <zkriesse> Bryn: ^^
[13:38] <zkriesse> ekseniks: oh hush up
[13:38] <Bryn> i'll give it a read thanks
[13:39] <zkriesse> Bryn: :D
[13:39] <kermiac> Bryn: most of the programs in Ubuntu are stored in "/"
[13:40] <kermiac> Bryn: also see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DrivesAndPartitions for more info
[13:40] <shahan> I am in wifi internet speed problem  on Lucid but working excellent in windows XP. it was good before one week.. and was giving me good service for a month(after the lucid released).
[13:43] <kermiac> shahan: yes, I've heard about your issue - it seems very strange :(   Have you tried #ubuntu as a few of us have discussed your problem & unfortunately we still haven't came up with any solution yet. Personally, I've never heard of that kind of issue before
[13:44] <kermiac> shahan: Can you remind me which wireless card you have again? I'll try to see if my google-fu is any better tonight
[13:45] <shahan> kermiac: sure
[13:46] <shahan> kermiac: from lsusb output "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp."
[13:46] <shahan> kermiac: its Ralink
[13:50] <shahan> kermiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1508301
[13:52] <kermiac> shahan: can you please pastebin the output of "lsmod | grep -e rt2 -e rt3" (without the quotes)
[13:53] <shahan> kermiac: http://pastebin.com/m67VQ6DD
[13:55] <kermiac> shahan: hmm.. ok, what i was thinking of wont work :(    Still googling
[13:56] <kermiac> shahan: you're pieroxy in that ubuntu thread, right?
[13:59] <shahan> kermiac: no... I am not pieroxy
[13:59] <shahan> kermiac: I hve got this post...
[14:00] <kermiac> shahan: why did you link [22:48:59] <shahan> kermiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1508301
[14:00] <kermiac> shahan: I thought that was your post
[14:05] <kermiac> shahan: is this system freshly insalled from the 10.04 cd (i.e. after 10.04 was released) or has this machine been upgraded from a Lucid beta install?
[14:06] <kermiac> shahan: also, have you tried using the livecd? does this problem exist when using the 10.04 livecd?
[14:09] <shahan> kermiac: I have made a fresh install
[14:09] <shahan> kermiac: not tested from the live CD
[14:10] <shahan> kermiac: I am going to test it
[14:11] <shahan> kermiac: another thing is , my Wifi doesnt detect automatically after fresh install.. I tried on several PC
[14:11] <shahan> kermiac: here is how I connect my wifi http://pastebin.com/DGZ2Xw1j
[14:13] <kermiac> shahan: have you filed a bugreport?
[14:16] <kermiac> shahan: as a few of us have unsuccessfully tried to troubleshoot this issue with you & with you having to do http://pastebin.com/DGZ2Xw1j yo get your wifi recognised correctly, I would suggest that you file a bug report again the kernel. You can do that by running "ubuntu-bug linux" (without the quotes) from a terminal window
[14:17] <kermiac> shahan: people who ....NOOOOO!!!! ping timeout
[14:20] <kermiac> I'm off to bed. If shahan returns can someone please advise him/her to file a bug report again the kernel by running "ubuntu-bug linux" (without the quotes) from a terminal window
[14:23] <Silver_Fox_> Okay
[14:25] <kermiac> thanks Silver_Fox_ :)
[14:27] <ekseniks> hey guys whats a nice IM client? for msn and gtalk mostly
[14:29] <Silver_Fox_> Pidgin
[14:29] <ekseniks> thanks
[14:29] <Silver_Fox_> Pleasure
[15:39] <shahna> kermiac: is there any possibility to have any hardware problem on my wifi modem which could make problem on ubuntu but works fine on windows?
[16:22] <ekseniks> hey guys i tried to instal the qc-usb package using "sudo apt-get install qc-usb" but it says "Couldn't find package qc-usb"
[16:22] <ekseniks> any ideas?
[16:23] <geirha> aptitude search qc-usb
[16:24] <ekseniks> how do i do that?
[16:25] <geirha> Type it at the terminal. It'll list all packages that has qc-usb in their name
[16:25] <ekseniks> ok thanks
[16:28] <ekseniks> it lists qc-usb-source and qc-usb-utils but i'm sure i've installed both of them
[16:28] <geirha> What does the letter in front say, p? i?
[16:29] <ekseniks> i
[16:29] <geirha> Yeah, that means they're installed.
[16:29] <ekseniks> so how do i run it? how do i see my webcam
[16:30] <geirha> No idea, never heard of it before. You can see what files it installed with: dpkg -L qc-usb-utils
[16:30] <zkriesse> ekseniks: have you looked at "Cheese"
[16:30] <ekseniks> or are those just the drivers and i need a program for an interface
[16:31] <zkriesse> !Cheese
[16:31] <ekseniks> zkriesse, i have not
[16:31] <ubot2> Factoid 'Cheese' not found
[16:31] <ekseniks> i'll google it :)
[16:31] <zkriesse> ekseniks: look it up in the software center...it's a webcam program..worked for me in the past
[16:31] <zkriesse> !webcam
[16:31] <ubot2> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[16:31] <zkriesse> ekseniks: ^^
[16:32] <ekseniks> thanks!
[16:32] <ekseniks> nice bot is nice
[16:45] <Tarashell> Does anyone know if the Wacom Bamboo Fun has drivers that will work with http://ubuntu-minimal-desktop.blogspot.com/ ?
[16:46] <aveilleux> Hello hello what have we here
[16:47] <aveilleux> Tarashell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom  Anything that works with the base Ubuntu install will work with UMD
[16:48] <Tarashell> I see... Well... Maybe...
[16:53] <Tarashell> Honestly at this point everything just looks like the code you used to get when you viewed the source of a geocities page >.o
[16:54] <Tarashell> I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.
[17:24] <sabqat9> can i ask an un-ubuntu related question to tech people out there?
[17:25] <Silver_Fox_> Sure :)
[17:25] <sabqat9> looking for hard drive recovery software - any recommendations?
[17:26] <sabqat9> one of my drives started pinging or clicking - now there are sections files and folders that are missing in the drive
[17:27]  * holstein likes http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[17:29] <mohi2911> sabqat9, you deleted those files??
[17:32] <sabqat9> I did not delete files on purpose - the drive held my os and documents - when I started it up, it froze during startup, the hdd clicked many times (I knew to shut down right away) - now I seem to be missing whole sections of files and folders
[17:32] <aveilleux> sabquat9: if the drive is clicking, that means there was a head crash. Software ain't gonna recover it.
[17:32] <sabqat9> I am actually a windows user - I was moving systems around the house to setup a ubuntu server edition (which did not work out because I lack the linux/ubuntu know how - I am a newbie to ubuntu) - so I opted for Freenas (which is working now) - during these moves, one of the drives suddenly failed
[17:33] <aveilleux> sabqat9: I don't usually recommend paying for repair services, but you're going to need a professional if you want your data bac
[17:33] <aveilleux> back*
[17:34] <sabqat9> that is nice to hear - there is not a lot of data there - more personal than professional level data - however it does constitute about a years worth of work
[17:35] <aveilleux> sabqat9: I'm sorry to hear that :-( I hate spontaneous data loss.
[17:35] <sabqat9> dumb question -  is there a diy method of recovering this data without software?
[17:35] <aveilleux> sabqat9: Is there? Yes. Is it easy? Noooooooo.
[17:36] <sabqat9> another dumb question - what is the method
[17:37] <aveilleux> sabqat9: http://free-backup.info/diy-hard-drive-recovery-for-the-extremely-desperate.html
[17:37] <sabqat9> the title sounds about right - 'Extremely Desperate'
[17:38] <aveilleux> sabqat9: Figured that would get a chuckle
[17:40] <squaregoldfish> Can I mention the 'B' word now?
[17:40] <aveilleux> squaregoldfish: "'B' word"?
[17:40] <squaregoldfish> BACKUP!
[17:40] <aveilleux> hehe
[17:40] <aveilleux> squaregoldfish: PPPPAAARRGH
[17:40] <aveilleux> squaregoldfish: Prior Proper Planning Prevents AAARRRGH
[17:41] <sabqat9> I feel the aching pain of not following the mantra of the all powerful 'b' word
[17:41] <squaregoldfish> :)
[17:41] <sabqat9> god have mercy on my data
[17:41] <squaregoldfish> I suspect most people only learn to back up after they've lost their data. I did.
[17:41] <aveilleux> sabqat9: As soon as I learned how to use crontab I set up a service to copy my /home partition to a network drive every hour
[17:44] <squaregoldfish> Incidentally, I'd look into pro data recovery services. From what I've heard they're generally pretty good, but it will depend how much your data's worth to you.
[17:44] <aveilleux> actually, if you can spare the change, Ubuntu One is pretty nice.
[17:51] <sabqat9> I just called a local data recovery outfit in my area - the starting price for data recovery for my situation . . . . . . . . $500 . . . . . . for a $100 drive that is 6 years old
[17:51] <aveilleux> christ.
[17:53] <sabqat9> to anyone reading this chat - - - Backup - - - Backup now - - it is like those crazy street people with the biblical billboard signs - - you never know the day or the hour - - the end is upon us - - backup now and backup often
[17:54] <squaregoldfish> sabqat9: That price sounds about right. Bit cheaper than I was expecting to be honest.
[17:56] <sabqat9> you are not going to believe this
[17:57] <sabqat9> during my search for my user files in windows xp - i had loaded several users - the user i thought held my files was empty - searched through other users and voila! my files are safe and recoverable
[17:57] <squaregoldfish> DO NOT switch off that drive until you've got everything off it! Good luck - I have to go...
[17:58] <sabqat9> I sorry for taking up your time - my heart was in my mouth for the past hour dealing with this situation
[17:59] <Silver_Fox_> I was worried sabqat9 ,  now feeling better :)
[17:59] <Silver_Fox_> Get a copy QUICK
[18:00] <sabqat9> I am backing everything up from the drive - - This has taught me the valuable lesson of - - BACKUP - - which is why I have switched FreeNAS to store my data - - with the goal of creating other ways of creating Backups of my Backups to my Backups
[18:03] <sabqat9> Also learned that working in the data recovery business makes good money - great business model - - desperate clients wanting unique services - - second only to prostitution
[18:04] <aveilleux> sabqat9: hahaha. But I have to warn you
[18:04] <aveilleux> !language |sabqat9
[18:04] <ubot2> sabqat9: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:06] <sabqat9> sorry - i was watching my language - i was wondering if the 'p' word was going too far - maybe it was the context - my apologies to everyone
[18:07] <Darkness_Des> Is anybody else having an issue with a D-Link router where your connection is reset every few seconds?
[18:07] <aveilleux> !networking |Darkness_Des
[18:07] <ubot2> Factoid 'networking' not found
[18:07] <aveilleux> ...
[18:08] <aveilleux> That's lame.
[18:08] <Darkness_Des> ...
[18:08] <Darkness_Des> I can give you networking info if you want.
[18:09] <aveilleux> Darkness_Des: Have you tried ##networking ?
[18:09] <Darkness_Des> Nope.
[18:09] <sabqat9> Anyways - I won't bother you guys anymore - thanks for listening though - I will watch my wandering fingers (on my keyboard) next time - backups are running smoothly - thanks again
[18:09] <Darkness_Des> Never heard of it.
[18:09] <aveilleux> Darkness_Des: This is really a general Ubuntu support channel, not so much other things.
[18:09] <aveilleux> Darkness_Des: It's an IRC channel on FreeNode.
[18:10] <Darkness_Des> Well, thing is, it works fine on any other OS that we run it works fine. I know it's not my wireless card, I dual boot with XP and it works perfect on there. Thanks, I'll give them a shot.
[18:10] <aveilleux> Darkness_Des: Oh th-- uh shffdnjadsu darn it.
[18:11] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[19:09] <ekseniks> does anyone else have a problem with loading web pages especially google?
[19:09] <aveilleux> enseniks: Nopw
[19:09] <aveilleux> nope*
[19:10] <ekseniks> its only on linux and i've tried different browsers
[19:11] <ekseniks> its not like i have a funny connection its just straight adsl
[19:11] <mohi2911> ekseniks, goto terminal and type ping www.google.com
[19:11] <mohi2911> and see the response time
[19:13] <ekseniks> between 400 and 1000 ms but the thing i'm talking about is if the page doesn't load within a second or two, it times out
[19:13] <aveilleux> 1000ms is a second :P
[19:13] <ekseniks> ye
[19:13] <mohi2911> its tooooo slow
[19:14] <ekseniks> i mean if it doesn't load then after like 30 seconds it times out
[19:15] <ekseniks> if i search something in google i normally spam the search button for a while then it'll go through
[19:15] <ekseniks> its not a major issue its just really annoying
[19:16] <ekseniks> is there anything i can try? i'm relatively sure its not the line, router or the browser
[19:29] <sugna> can any one please tell me roughly what size they would expect /var/log to be?
[19:30] <sugna> or even what size it is on your system
[19:31] <ekseniks> mines "unknown" :/
[19:31] <aveilleux> sugna: Mine is 6.3 MB
[19:32] <aveilleux> ekseniks: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer can give you that information
[19:32] <duanedesign> ekseniks: you could try different DNS entries. Namebench will test the different Name Servers and tell you which is faster for you  http://www.ohbuntu.blogspot.com/2010/01/find-set-fastest-dns-server-for.html
[19:32] <ekseniks> oh wait mines 5.1 excluding some unreadable stuff
[19:32] <sugna> mine seems disproportionately large: 2.1GB
[19:33] <ekseniks> thanks duanedesign! i'll give it a try
[19:33] <duanedesign> sugna: yeah, mine is 253 items, totalling 6.3 MB
[19:33] <aveilleux> sugna: Look at the usage analyzer I showed ekseniks and see what's taking up all the room
[19:33] <ekseniks> /var/log is no place to hide your porn collection :P
[19:35] <duanedesign> lol
[19:37] <sugna> looking in a terminal the ones that number 100+megs are kern.log, kern.log1 messages messages1 syslog1 and ufw.log
[19:37] <sugna> is that unusual?
[19:40] <aveilleux> sugna: That looks like your system has major problems
[19:40] <sugna> do you know what sort?
[19:41] <duanedesign> sugna: it might be ACPI filling up your logs
[19:42] <sugna> +duanedesign:sorry whats ACPI
[19:42] <duanedesign> sugna: might check the kern.log and see if any particular messages are repeated over and over
[19:44] <sugna> +duanedesign:it contains hundreds of references to UFW
[19:44] <sugna> +duanedesign:could it be ufw logging what it does
[19:48] <duanedesign> hmm, ok
[19:48] <sugna> I'm trying to have a look at messages1 but it's taking a while to open
[19:53] <duanedesign> sugna: are all the UFW messages different? Does it seem like an error.  you can also look at the files under System > Administration > Log File Viewer
[19:55] <steelsteve> hey, I have a problem with thunderbird, I have an e-mail account that I must send my e-mail through but outgoing does not work at my home network
[19:55] <aveilleux> steelsteve: Have you double-checked your SMTP settings?
[19:55] <steelsteve> I use Verizon e-mail and ports and servers are correct, AND it works elsewhere
[19:56] <steelsteve> it just doesn't work at home
[19:56] <steelsteve> SMTP is correct
[19:56] <aveilleux> steelsteve: Is this the only account on that setup? ie. Do you have a GMail or something else on Thunderbird?
[19:56] <steelsteve> I have Gmail and that works
[19:56] <steelsteve> sending that is
[19:57] <steelsteve> the Verizon account DOES work when receiving
[19:57] <sugna> +duanedesign: just realised what might be the cause. A few days ago i turned up the ufw logging level then turned it down again yesterday
[19:57] <sugna> duanedesign:could that be the cause
[19:57] <aveilleux> steelsteve: Doublecheck the account server settings. You may have it set to use the GMail SMTP server by accident.
[19:58] <duanedesign> sugna: yes it could
[19:58] <steelsteve> nope, it's all correct, I just used that account to send an e-mail and it worked
[19:58] <steelsteve> on a different network
[19:58] <steelsteve> so obviously the problem is the DSL network at home, since everything works elsewhere
[19:58] <aveilleux> steelsteve: How odd. The only thing that comes to mind is blocking SMTP traffic, but you have to manually set that up.
[19:58] <duanedesign> sugna: could you check if this command returns anything.     pgrep -fl cron
[19:59] <duanedesign> pgrep -fl cron
[19:59] <steelsteve> aveilleux: but the fact that I can send (at home) using my G-mail account that uses SMTP rationally takes that problem out of existence
[20:00] <aveilleux> steelsteve: Yeah, I figured that. I really don't know what to say.
[20:00] <sugna> duanedesign: that returns 1112 cron
[20:00] <duanedesign> sugna: ok thats good
[20:00] <steelsteve> hum, well, I also have a problem with torrents but I think that because my Dad blocks any unnessicary ports (80, 25, 110, ect.)
[20:00] <duanedesign> sugna: there is a cron job that rotates your logs.
[20:01] <sugna> i know
[20:01] <aveilleux> steelsteve: In regards to torrents, just randomize your port
[20:01] <steelsteve> those ports names are nessicary
[20:02] <duanedesign> sugna: so croon is running. I would bet it was the increased log level setting.
[20:02] <steelsteve> but I only get 3, maybe 4 ports running EVER
[20:02] <steelsteve> 80, 25, 110, and a few others are the only ones that are open
[20:02] <sugna> does the rotator ever delete old logs?
[20:03] <aveilleux> steelsteve: He blocks incoming traffic??? Geez
[20:03] <steelsteve> randomizing ensures that few can even hit the ones that are open
[20:03] <sugna> because this is currently the biggest dir on my hd
[20:03] <steelsteve> incoming and outgoing
[20:03] <steelsteve> so yes aveilleux
[20:03] <aveilleux> steelsteve, that's so weird!
[20:03] <steelsteve> he's paranoid but it comes with his job
[20:04] <steelsteve> (when you work with how a certain energy plan is made, and make sure it's up to code, you tend to be excused for being paranoid)
[20:05] <aveilleux> steelsteve: Fair enough. It's still really paranoid by my standards, and I work for a DoD contractor :P
[20:05] <steelsteve> maybe you can convince him otherwise
[20:06] <steelsteve> (he also takes all his work home with him, so I don't know about you)
[20:06] <ekseniks> Day of Defeat? that was like the best HL mod evar
[20:06] <aveilleux> steelsteve: I'm pretty sure an <insert age here> father isn't likely to take advice from an 18-year-old college student :P
[20:06] <steelsteve> ha!
[20:06] <aveilleux> ekseniks: Hahaha. Department of Defense.
[20:07] <ekseniks> oh lol that makes more sense
[20:07] <steelsteve> wait, 18 and work for the DoD (indirectly)?
[20:07] <steelsteve> I knew it, being a linux person DOES make you pale in comparison to your peers
[20:07] <aveilleux> steelsteve: http://stl.uml.edu/staff/student.html  Anthony Veilleux, at the bottom
[20:08]  * steelsteve is 20 and in danger of failing community college
[20:08] <aveilleux> D:
[20:08] <duanedesign> sugna: yes, look at gedit /etc/logrotate.conf to change settings
[20:08] <steelsteve> so, because you're a software person, by default you take your homework with you
[20:09] <steelsteve> but at the same time, you're dealing with lasers
[20:10] <aveilleux> steelsteve: I'm actually not allowed to take my work with me
[20:10] <ekseniks> duanedesign, "OpenDNS-2          364 ms | Incorrect result for www.google.com" i'm guessing that was my problem?
[20:10] <steelsteve> then you've got no right to say my dad's paranoid
[20:11] <steelsteve> he takes his codes with him
[20:11] <steelsteve> also, when you compare nuclear energy plants to a laser, what's less destructive? Nuclear energy goes in all directions, Lasers, one, maybe two...
[20:11] <aveilleux> steelsteve: The lab doesn't even have those kind of restrictions
[20:11] <aveilleux> steelsteve: These lasers can travel for upwards of 30km, through concrete and steel.
[20:12] <steelsteve> and only in one direction
[20:12] <aveilleux> The laser structure's only ~10 feet long, it's mobile
[20:12] <steelsteve> nuclear energy can go 2-3 kilometers in all direction
[20:12] <steelsteve> not including the extra effect from fallout
[20:12] <aveilleux> Imagine the range of destruction, one of these rotating at 5 deg/s for five minutes
[20:13] <aveilleux> ANYWAY! My apologies for going offtopic.
[20:13] <steelsteve> fallout!
[20:13] <steelsteve> lol
[20:13] <aveilleux> !offtopic |aveilleux
[20:13] <ubot2> aveilleux, please see my private message
[20:13] <aveilleux> ubot2 can PM now? Nifty
[20:13] <ubot2> aveilleux: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:13] <aveilleux> And respond to queries :o
[20:15] <ekseniks> its ok ubot2 we don't like you for your brain we like you for your body :D
[20:15] <steelsteve> crap, black lagoon episode 4 has been removed...
[20:24] <zkriesse> aveilleux: HEHEHE
[20:25] <aveilleux> speaking of sentient bots, here's zkreisse
[20:26] <zkriesse> BOT: A supposed person in a channel who is actually a program
[20:27] <aveilleux> zkreisse: !zkreisse
[20:27] <zkriesse> zkriesse: zkriesse is a bot meant to help
[20:28] <zkriesse> zkriesse: the bot is going away to eat some electrons
[20:28] <aveilleux> Oooooh yay cloak.
[20:29] <aveilleux> zkreisse: Have fun :P
[20:30] <steelsteve> !huh?
[20:30] <ubot2> Factoid 'huh?' not found
[20:30] <steelsteve> lol
[20:43] <zkriesse> zkriesse: is back
[20:43] <zkriesse> suprengr: hello
[20:49] <ekseniks> duanedesign, i thank you very very much! Its working awesome now! it looks like it was the dsn servers
[20:53] <duanedesign> ekseniks: ahh great
[20:54] <duanedesign> ekseniks: i was just about to send you this link and i got busy doing something else. http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html
[20:54] <zkriesse> aveilleux: A good gal who knows the stuff about stuff
[20:54] <duanedesign> ekseniks: glad it is better
[20:54] <zkriesse> duanedesign: a guy who's knowing is awesome
[20:57] <ekseniks> i may have jumped the gun a little :/ how it resolves fast but then it sits on "waiting for <websites name>" until it fails
[21:35] <tpjmiami> hi, i was wondering if someone could shed light on the mic issue i discussed yesterday
[21:36] <tpjmiami> talked to hobgoblin and paultag about this
[21:40] <tpjmiami> can anyone assist?
[21:41] <stlsaint> tpjmiami: sup
[21:41] <stlsaint> ubot2: !ask
[21:41] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[21:41] <stlsaint> !ask
[21:41] <stlsaint> !ask | tpjmiami
[21:41] <ubot2> tpjmiami: please see above
[21:41] <stlsaint> hehe
[21:43] <tpjmiami> can someone assist w/ my external mic issue?  pls see yesterday's and today's (till 1am) logs
[21:43] <tpjmiami> paultag was close to a solution
[21:44] <stlsaint> ouch, im not worth jack with sound issues! lol...get it....jack...as in jackd...
[21:45] <pedro3005> stlsaint, omg
[21:45] <tpjmiami> as in, i wish my mic jack worked!
[21:46] <stlsaint> pedro3005: GET IT!!! LMBO!!!
[21:47] <pedro3005> stlsaint, :)
[21:49] <tpjmiami> definitely an ubuntu issue
[21:50] <tpjmiami> worked under vista, bad as it was
[21:50] <stlsaint> I DEMAND TO SPEAK WITH DIEGOTC!!
[21:55] <tpjmiami> only if i can talk to paultag too
[21:56] <geirha> I DEMAND TO SPEAK IN ALL CAPS!!1
[22:03] <tpjmiami> any support appreciated
[22:12] <tpjmiami> is anyone the point person now to get some advice?
[22:12] <geirha> tpjmiami: Hm. Ok, a quick scroll through the backlog. It sounds like you've tried all the "obvious" things. I'm thinking the next step is a bug report.
[22:17] <tpjmiami> well, before that i wonder if i should do either of the following 2 things:
[22:17] <tpjmiami> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[22:17] <tpjmiami> or
[22:17] <tpjmiami> mocha's feb 25th suggestion on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381013&page=2
[22:22] <tpjmiami> i'm just hesitant to change settings via terminal w/o a second opinion
[22:22] <geirha> The help.ubuntu.com does not appear to cover microphone issues, so I'm not sure about that.
[22:24] <geirha> mocha's post look very promising. gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:25] <tpjmiami> do paultag and hobgoblin come in here frequently?
[22:25] <geirha> Yes, I've seen them alot in here.
[22:27] <tpjmiami> ok, just wondering since they looked into this a lot for me
[22:27] <tpjmiami> (no offence intended)
[22:31] <geirha> Well, paultag has a +, so he's a trusted member in here ;)
[22:57] <Bodsda> evening all
[22:59] <goodtime> isnt a+ microsoft hardwear?
[22:59] <goodtime> or is it just hardwear
[23:00] <Bodsda> goodtime: its not hardware, thats hardware+
[23:00] <goodtime> ok
[23:00] <Bodsda> goodtime: it is a generic(ish) microsoft(ish) based entry level computing certification
[23:00] <Bodsda> base*
[23:01] <goodtime> i should save and take the exam
[23:02] <goodtime> the guide is easy to get
[23:02] <Bodsda> goodtime: it is quite well recognised, but in reality it is seriously easy
[23:02] <goodtime> ok
[23:04] <goodtime> i have a book here thats way over my head "linux command line and shell scripting
[23:04] <Vantrax> goodtime, any self respecting geek should be able to walk through it easily
[23:05] <Vantrax> its mostly hardware and network with a little diagnostics thrown in
[23:05] <goodtime> i wasnt a geek till i hit 30
[23:05] <goodtime> now im 40
[23:05] <Bodsda> I wasnt a geek until I hit 16
[23:05] <goodtime> benn outa school 23 years ago
[23:05] <goodtime> been*
[23:05] <goodtime> see lol
[23:06] <Vantrax> lol
[23:06] <Vantrax> Im still at school, work at a university now
[23:07] <goodtime> i need to do something though im on ssi and i have alot of down time
[23:07] <goodtime> i have a year to improve myself
[23:08] <goodtime> plus i live right in the hart of boston city
[23:08] <goodtime> i like it here better than rochester n.y.
[23:08] <stlsaint> goodtime: dont waste your time on A+ right now, get security plus
[23:08] <goodtime> hmmm whats that
[23:09] <stlsaint> ???????????????/
[23:09] <goodtime> networking?
[23:09] <ekseniks> i just checked i'm having the same problem as tpjmiami with the mic not working thing... but i have a desktop pc not a laptop
[23:09] <stlsaint> Security+ is way better than a+ or net+ and its required to get a MCSA!
[23:09] <stlsaint> goodtime: no net+ is networking
[23:09] <goodtime> ok
[23:10] <Bodsda> linux+ ftw!!
[23:10] <goodtime> lol
[23:10] <goodtime> yeah ftw man!!!
[23:10] <stlsaint> LPI!!!! WOOT!!!!
[23:10] <goodtime> its beyond me i bet
[23:11] <Bodsda> goodtime: you are very negative
[23:11] <stlsaint> its beyond alot of people!! :D
[23:11] <goodtime> im just nervous
[23:11] <Bodsda> goodtime: well, your on the right track
[23:11] <stlsaint> im taking sec+ exam next month...if you take the exam this year you will be sec+ certified for life
[23:11] <goodtime> life changing things were talking about here
[23:11] <stlsaint> goodtime: if you wait until 2011 you will have to re-test every three years
[23:12] <goodtime> i know
[23:12] <stlsaint> best to get certified now
[23:12] <goodtime> well your right
[23:12] <goodtime> how much is security +
[23:12] <Vantrax> seriously stlsaint
[23:12] <Vantrax> that sucks
[23:12] <Bodsda> omg
[23:13] <Vantrax> its not like sec+ is worth the paper its written on but still
[23:14] <Vantrax> and you dont want to get MCSA anyway, you want to head for CSSIP
[23:14] <Bodsda> lpi
[23:14] <goodtime> how much is security +
[23:14] <goodtime> 300?
[23:14] <goodtime> 600?
[23:15] <Bodsda> goodtime: $258
[23:16] <stlsaint> goodtime: +1 on what bodsa said
[23:16] <Bodsda> goodtime: prices: http://www.comptia.org/Libraries/Certification_Documents/Global_Certification_Prices.sflb.ashx
[23:16] <stlsaint> Vantrax: im going for all of them! LPI/MCSA/Cisco!
[23:16] <stlsaint> and mcse
[23:17] <Vantrax> ...
[23:17] <Vantrax> do cssip and cisco
[23:17] <stlsaint> its a rough economy we are in
[23:17] <Vantrax> ccna type stuff
[23:17] <Bodsda> Vantrax: your good with networks and security malarky right?
[23:17] <goodtime> hey ty Bodsda
[23:18] <Bodsda> goodtime: your welcome
[23:18] <Vantrax> somewhat
[23:18] <stlsaint> ive already taken all courses for the MCSA, now its just down to money for the exams!!
[23:18] <Vantrax> im good, but not an expert
[23:18] <Vantrax> well, not a paid expert :P
[23:19] <Vantrax> bodhi is good with security, as is tronyx
[23:19] <stlsaint> hehe
[23:19] <Bodsda> Vantrax: I have a problem, I have a vps that will accept ssh connections from me without an issue, but it denies the connection when my dad tries (different IP, same user account/password)
[23:19] <Bodsda> I have removed all known_hosts files, and restarted the sshd services, no help
[23:19] <Vantrax> ping bodhi_zazen
[23:19] <Bodsda> :)
[23:19] <Vantrax> bodhi has a VPS and might have solved that already
[23:19] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo Vantrax
[23:19] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: pingady ping ping, you about buddy?
[23:20] <Bodsda> oh, hey
[23:20] <Vantrax> he he he hi bodhi
[23:20] <stlsaint> Bodsda: are you running iptables?
[23:20] <Bodsda> stlsaint: yarp
[23:20] <tpjmiami> guys, any thoughts on whether the command suggested to me at around 11pm will help my mic issue?
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: it is either
[23:20] <Vantrax> Bodsda is having fun with VPS SSH, im guessing iptables
[23:20] <stlsaint> Bodsda: are you sure your not blocking outside connections?
[23:20] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: can I pick your brains about ssh + vps issues?
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> 1. TCP wrapper - hosts.deny / hosts.allow
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> 2. iptables / firewall
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> or
[23:21] <stlsaint> Bodsda: also are you running username/password or key authentication?
[23:21] <bodhi_zazen> 3. configuration options in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:21] <bodhi_zazen> ALLOW user@ip_address
[23:21]  * stlsaint shys away as the guru enters the room *fade*
[23:21] <Vantrax> lol
[23:22] <bodhi_zazen> LOL, keep going stlsaint
[23:22] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: I am using key auth by the looks of it, but local username/password auth. There is nothing in hosts.deny and I have made no changes to iptables
[23:22] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: can you ssh into da VPS and run a few commands for us ?
[23:22] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: sure
[23:22] <bodhi_zazen> Dopes your father have the key ?
[23:22] <stlsaint> lol...bodhi said "da"!! :D
[23:23] <stlsaint> and has that key been added to your server?
[23:23] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: hmm... come to think of it, it never requests a key, but ssh murmers about rsa jeys when you connect
[23:23] <Bodsda> maybe I am not using key auth - I connect with  root@hostname
[23:23] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
[23:23] <stlsaint> Bodsda: can we take a look at your server config?
[23:24] <Bodsda> sure, just let me know what to pastebin
[23:24] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: do you use seahorse to load your ssh key ?
[23:24] <tpjmiami> any help would be nice... u can see yesterday's and today's logs
[23:24] <Vantrax> just make sure if you mess with iptables your first entry is an explicit allow for your ip
[23:24] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: I am almost tempted to say what is seahorse
[23:24] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
[23:25] <stlsaint> Bodsda: we need to see your sshd_config
[23:25] <bodhi_zazen> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://photos.somd.com/data/500/medium/seahorse.jpg&imgrefurl=http://photos.somd.com/showphoto.php/photo/4439/limit/views&h=426&w=640&sz=80&tbnid=6yphoBVsLMWyIM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dseahorse&usg=__9tzp-IfH1T5G_A12SUwYjTsH_0E=&sa=X&ei=Q6wWTLLuIZ-RnAeXn6zSCg&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAA
[23:25]  * Vantrax says what is seahorse in his best school kid voice
[23:26] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: nice, wanna see my splunk? http://www.splunk.com/
[23:26] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: do you have a key to your VPS in ~/.ssh ?
[23:26] <bodhi_zazen> And does your father also have the key ?
[23:26] <stlsaint> bodhi_zazen: have we established that he is using key authentication?
[23:27] <Bodsda> stlsaint: no
[23:27] <stlsaint> hehe
[23:27] <stlsaint> Bodsda: so do you have to enter a password when you ssh in?
[23:27] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: pastebin ssh -vvv root@server =)
[23:28] <Bodsda> stlsaint: bodhi_zazen: sshd_config http://pastebin.com/bDcTYqJY
[23:29] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: http://pastebin.com/KLSYjqvR
[23:29] <Vantrax> pretty stock standard sshconfig
[23:30] <stlsaint> Bodsda: have you made any changes to your sshd_config?
[23:30] <Bodsda> Vantrax: ... has this conversation not made you realise I know jack schit about ssh? :)
[23:30] <Bodsda> stlsaint: nope
[23:30] <stlsaint> Bodsda: than you are using passwords
[23:30] <stlsaint> Bodsda: does your father have the password?
[23:30] <Bodsda> stlsaint: yeah, isnt that what I said?
[23:31] <Bodsda> stlsaint: as in the root account password, yeah its schoolBoyError
[23:31] <bodhi_zazen> nope, you are not using keys ;P
[23:31] <stlsaint> bodhi_zazen: hehe, thats what i just said
[23:31] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: what is in /etc/hosts.deny
[23:31] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: comments
[23:31] <bodhi_zazen> iptables -L -v -n
[23:32] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: http://pastebin.com/traskB3W
[23:33] <stlsaint> bodhi_zazen: he has nothing set right?
[23:33] <Bodsda> how about left?
[23:34] <stlsaint> Bodsda: LOL..im just stating that you have NO iptable rules
[23:34] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: can you have your father post ssh -vvv root@server ?
[23:34] <stlsaint> Bodsda: is your father on your network or outside it?
[23:34] <Vantrax> stlsaint, thats normal
[23:34] <Vantrax> unless you set some, its pretty blank
[23:34] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: no sorry - he is erm... unavailable... as in unconscious
[23:35] <Vantrax> oh
[23:35] <Vantrax> thats either good... or very very bad
[23:35]  * Bodsda opens the bookies for the bets
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> PEBKC
[23:35] <stlsaint> Vantrax: i know...thats why i said he has none set ;)
[23:36] <Vantrax> im with you on that one bodhi
[23:36] <Vantrax> everything looks very clean
[23:36] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: your telling me to tell a IT technician with over 30 years experience that he cant spell 'root'?
[23:36] <Vantrax> too clean... put some iptable rules in there
[23:36] <stlsaint> LOL
[23:37] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: PM me the root PW and I will look around if you like, but yes
[23:37] <Vantrax> whats the machine hes connecting from?
[23:37] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: actually, considering his current nueral state your probably right
[23:37] <Vantrax> linux/mac/win?
[23:37] <Bodsda> Vantrax: multiple. Ubuntu, CentOS, Windows
[23:38] <bodhi_zazen> The only other thing would be a service such as denyhosts that temp banned him, and now has not trace in /etc/deny.hosts
[23:38] <Vantrax> I would have to guess the problem is at his end, there is nothing there that would restrict him at all
[23:38] <Vantrax> its all clear
[23:39] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: did you get in?
[23:42] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: w
[23:42] <Bodsda> asd
[23:44] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: groovy - thats good enough for me, its his fault. He aint getting his pr0n back if he wont get the pwd right
[23:44] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
[23:44] <bodhi_zazen> you can look in home if you like
[23:45] <Bodsda> cheers for your help bodhi_zazen Vantrax stlsaint - really appreciate it
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> I do not see any problem server side, I would tighten security a tad
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> You do have some security in place so that is good
[23:46] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: I'll be sure to read the security fg wiki page for some tips, unless you got any quick links?
[23:46] <Vantrax> Bodsda, thats got to be motivating for some people:P
[23:46] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: thats a stock ubuntu server. I have done little to no config
[23:47] <Bodsda> Vantrax: youd have thought so
[23:47] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: I would learn to use ssh keys and change AllowRootLogin to withoug-password to a minimum
[23:47]  * Bodsda adds ssh to todo list
[23:48] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: cheers. I'll lock it down over the next couple of days
[23:48] <bodhi_zazen> I would do that in fairly short order , you will get hammered with your current config
[23:48] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: I'm, on it :)
[23:48] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[23:49] <bodhi_zazen> Make sure you can log in w/ the key, then disable passwords
[23:50] <Bodsda> sounds reasonable. I'll give it a whirl ty
[23:51] <bodhi_zazen> NP
[23:51] <bodhi_zazen> grep ssh /var/log/auth.log =)
[23:51] <Bodsda> nothing
[23:52] <bodhi_zazen> grep sshd /var/log/auth.log
[23:52] <bodhi_zazen> is logging working ?
[23:52] <Bodsda> nothing
[23:52] <Bodsda> nope
[23:52] <Bodsda> guess I got some work to do :)
[23:53] <bodhi_zazen> Is it an OpenVZ VPS ?
[23:53] <bodhi_zazen> do you own the host ?
[23:53] <Bodsda> openVZ? no I don't, its hosted by fivebean
[23:54] <bodhi_zazen> You may need syslog-ng
[23:54] <Bodsda> done
[23:54] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: I am probably not gonna be online much in the next few weekes. Could you please pass my thanks onto the council, especially paultag for there recent push for activity. Its nice to see the team pipe up again :)
[23:54] <Bodsda> their*
[23:55] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: they had a little nudge re: activity
[23:55] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen: :) good work
[23:56] <Bodsda> anywhoo, almost morning. Night guys