[00:00] just wondering if aveilleux or anyone can help [00:00] tpjmiami: ASK AWAY! [00:00] * zkriesse wonders if people think that I don't count [00:05] external mic wont' work [00:05] new ubuntu user [00:05] not recognised in sound pref or vol control [00:05] zkreisse, you're not a perso [00:05] perosn [00:05] see, I can't even spell it right, you're such a not-person [00:05] zkreisse is a bot? [00:05] No no, hehe [00:06] * zkriesse is a bot [00:08] heh [00:08] anyway, still w/o a working mic [00:09] Mic. A device used by the human race to record random sound waves interpreted as speech [00:12] MIC! [00:12] !mic [00:12] Factoid 'mic' not found [00:12] buzzard: A bird which scavenges for food usually found on dead animals [00:14] !microphone [00:14] Factoid 'microphone' not found [00:14] *sigh* [00:14] !audio [00:14] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [00:15] collinp: PING! [00:15] Uh, pong? [00:16] collinp: MEETING?!?!! [00:18] tpjmiami: You can look at the links in that factoid, and if you still need help then feel free to come back. [00:22] am looking at the links now [00:23] dude [00:23] I just fell in love with a new band [00:24] who? [00:24] 2nd time i froze up today [00:24] ekseniks, Venetian Snares [00:25] ???? [00:25] do they sound like anyone else? [00:26] ekseniks, nope, that's why I love them. They remixed the hell out of classical tracks [00:26] ekseniks, let me find it on youtubes [00:26] do you know apocalyptica? [00:26] i recently found them [00:27] its like 4 guys with cellos [00:27] they started doing metalica remixes but they do other stuff now [00:28] ok, none of them worked [00:28] buzzard = bird of prey of the genus Buteo (in Europe); neat hawks; also vultures in the US [00:28] paultag: sup pint o' beer [00:28] recorded test wav file, and no sound [00:29] zkriesse, yo [00:29] ekseniks, they are ill [00:29] ekseniks, I can't find the track I love on yins tube [00:29] whats the songs name? [00:30] ekseniks, it's in like finish. Let me see if I can copy paste it [00:31] lol ye i noticed the names are hard to pronounce [00:31] should i do this 14-step troubleshooting by typing this: [00:31] wget -O alsa-info.sh http://212.20.107.51/alsa-info.sh [00:32] as an fyi, this page suggests it can be an alsa config issue: [00:32] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381013&page=2 [00:33] ekseniks, Kétsarkú Mozgalom [00:33] ekseniks, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNRHbUBPanc [00:33] ekseniks, found it :) [00:34] jamming it off listen.grooveshark.com [00:35] word [00:35] ekseniks, dude this track does not have two bars of the same beat. Amazing [00:35] build up is epic! [00:36] any ideas guys? [00:36] tpjmiami, still the same audio issue? [00:38] it has like a drum and bass feel to a grungy/classical/psy its insane :D [00:38] ekseniks, yeah man, I'm in love [00:38] yup [00:38] no external mic [00:39] tpjmiami, let me meditate on it. Did you run windows before this? [00:39] sadly yes, vista on my acer aspire 5050 [00:39] tpjmiami, did it work under windows? [00:39] worked perfectly under vista [00:39] tpjmiami, ok, so it's 100% a linux issue [00:39] tpjmiami, let me meditate on it and think about it [00:39] both blocking of the speakers and mic input [00:39] tpjmiami, aye [00:40] tpjmiami, might be a sound card issue, /me thinks [00:40] tpjmiami, what's the sound card? [00:40] BRB [00:40] remind me what terminal command i should type to answer that [00:41] lspci [00:41] /back [00:41] heyya ddecator [00:42] how can i paste the output from that command? [00:42] or tell me what line i need for u [00:43] tpjmiami, lspci | pastebinit [00:43] hey paultag, just getting on for a sec to leave a message for someone, figured i'd answer the question real quick :p [00:43] heyya DarkwingDuck [00:43] ddecator, :) [00:43] erm, DarkwingDuck_ * [00:44] pastebin.com/yTT4seSY === DarkwingDuck_ is now known as DarkwingDuck [00:44] tpjmiami, just FYI -- ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) [00:44] ok [00:45] tpjmiami, well this is good [00:45] tpjmiami, there are lots of bug reports on it [00:46] Hey paultag [00:46] brb [00:47] paultag: lots of pain on this, yes === _rwc is now known as _rwc_afk [00:48] paultag: any chance this could explain it? mocha's feb 25th comment on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1381013&page=2 [00:53] paultag: will log off now, back here tomorrow night [00:53] appreciate any leads [00:53] thks and see u then [00:55] damnit! [00:55] I just got back [00:55] Oh well. I need to hit the washroom anyway [00:56] lol cheers dude [01:14] http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/J7qcXN5H would anybody please look at this pastebin there is a suspicious line at 70 and 71 [01:15] after running chkrootkit [01:19] The following suspicious files and directories were found: /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/.noinit /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/.path /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.3/.autoreg /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/.autoreg [01:25] away === _rwc_afk is now known as _rwc === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [05:00] hello [05:08] * fulldarkness is away: like mklove [06:30] anyone know of a good wiki page or tutorial on backing up evolution? [06:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Evolution is a bit lacking & I need to point someone in the right direction as I don't have time to walk them through the whole process atm [06:36] nvm - found something that should be enough. http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_completely_backup_evolution.3F === _rwc is now known as _rwc_afk [13:21] hello Bryn [13:22] hi [13:23] does anyone know how to change the install path for software installed through the package manager? I'd like to have it on a different partition, so I can keep software / data separate to Ubuntu itself [13:24] I'm not very familiar with Ubuntu, I had it like that in Windows, all programs on a different partition, is it more acceptable to keep software in the same partition in Ubuntu? [13:37] !installing software [13:37] zkriesse: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:38] !software [13:38] A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents [13:38] lol [13:38] stop confusing the bot :D [13:38] Bryn: ^^ [13:38] ekseniks: oh hush up [13:38] i'll give it a read thanks [13:39] Bryn: :D [13:39] Bryn: most of the programs in Ubuntu are stored in "/" [13:40] Bryn: also see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DrivesAndPartitions for more info [13:40] I am in wifi internet speed problem on Lucid but working excellent in windows XP. it was good before one week.. and was giving me good service for a month(after the lucid released). [13:43] shahan: yes, I've heard about your issue - it seems very strange :( Have you tried #ubuntu as a few of us have discussed your problem & unfortunately we still haven't came up with any solution yet. Personally, I've never heard of that kind of issue before [13:44] shahan: Can you remind me which wireless card you have again? I'll try to see if my google-fu is any better tonight [13:45] kermiac: sure [13:46] kermiac: from lsusb output "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp." [13:46] kermiac: its Ralink [13:50] kermiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1508301 [13:52] shahan: can you please pastebin the output of "lsmod | grep -e rt2 -e rt3" (without the quotes) [13:53] kermiac: http://pastebin.com/m67VQ6DD [13:55] shahan: hmm.. ok, what i was thinking of wont work :( Still googling [13:56] shahan: you're pieroxy in that ubuntu thread, right? [13:59] kermiac: no... I am not pieroxy [13:59] kermiac: I hve got this post... [14:00] shahan: why did you link [22:48:59] kermiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1508301 [14:00] shahan: I thought that was your post [14:05] shahan: is this system freshly insalled from the 10.04 cd (i.e. after 10.04 was released) or has this machine been upgraded from a Lucid beta install? [14:06] shahan: also, have you tried using the livecd? does this problem exist when using the 10.04 livecd? [14:09] kermiac: I have made a fresh install [14:09] kermiac: not tested from the live CD [14:10] kermiac: I am going to test it [14:11] kermiac: another thing is , my Wifi doesnt detect automatically after fresh install.. I tried on several PC [14:11] kermiac: here is how I connect my wifi http://pastebin.com/DGZ2Xw1j [14:13] shahan: have you filed a bugreport? [14:16] shahan: as a few of us have unsuccessfully tried to troubleshoot this issue with you & with you having to do http://pastebin.com/DGZ2Xw1j yo get your wifi recognised correctly, I would suggest that you file a bug report again the kernel. You can do that by running "ubuntu-bug linux" (without the quotes) from a terminal window [14:17] shahan: people who ....NOOOOO!!!! ping timeout [14:20] I'm off to bed. If shahan returns can someone please advise him/her to file a bug report again the kernel by running "ubuntu-bug linux" (without the quotes) from a terminal window [14:23] Okay [14:25] thanks Silver_Fox_ :) [14:27] hey guys whats a nice IM client? for msn and gtalk mostly [14:29] Pidgin [14:29] thanks [14:29] Pleasure [15:39] kermiac: is there any possibility to have any hardware problem on my wifi modem which could make problem on ubuntu but works fine on windows? === Chesamo is now known as aveilleux [16:22] hey guys i tried to instal the qc-usb package using "sudo apt-get install qc-usb" but it says "Couldn't find package qc-usb" [16:22] any ideas? [16:23] aptitude search qc-usb [16:24] how do i do that? [16:25] Type it at the terminal. It'll list all packages that has qc-usb in their name [16:25] ok thanks [16:28] it lists qc-usb-source and qc-usb-utils but i'm sure i've installed both of them [16:28] What does the letter in front say, p? i? [16:29] i [16:29] Yeah, that means they're installed. [16:29] so how do i run it? how do i see my webcam [16:30] No idea, never heard of it before. You can see what files it installed with: dpkg -L qc-usb-utils [16:30] ekseniks: have you looked at "Cheese" [16:30] or are those just the drivers and i need a program for an interface [16:31] !Cheese [16:31] zkriesse, i have not [16:31] Factoid 'Cheese' not found [16:31] i'll google it :) [16:31] ekseniks: look it up in the software center...it's a webcam program..worked for me in the past [16:31] !webcam [16:31] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [16:31] ekseniks: ^^ === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [16:32] thanks! [16:32] nice bot is nice [16:45] Does anyone know if the Wacom Bamboo Fun has drivers that will work with http://ubuntu-minimal-desktop.blogspot.com/ ? [16:46] Hello hello what have we here [16:47] Tarashell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom Anything that works with the base Ubuntu install will work with UMD [16:48] I see... Well... Maybe... [16:53] Honestly at this point everything just looks like the code you used to get when you viewed the source of a geocities page >.o [16:54] I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually. [17:24] can i ask an un-ubuntu related question to tech people out there? [17:25] Sure :) [17:25] looking for hard drive recovery software - any recommendations? [17:26] one of my drives started pinging or clicking - now there are sections files and folders that are missing in the drive [17:27] * holstein likes http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ [17:29] sabqat9, you deleted those files?? [17:32] I did not delete files on purpose - the drive held my os and documents - when I started it up, it froze during startup, the hdd clicked many times (I knew to shut down right away) - now I seem to be missing whole sections of files and folders [17:32] sabquat9: if the drive is clicking, that means there was a head crash. Software ain't gonna recover it. [17:32] I am actually a windows user - I was moving systems around the house to setup a ubuntu server edition (which did not work out because I lack the linux/ubuntu know how - I am a newbie to ubuntu) - so I opted for Freenas (which is working now) - during these moves, one of the drives suddenly failed [17:33] sabqat9: I don't usually recommend paying for repair services, but you're going to need a professional if you want your data bac [17:33] back* [17:34] that is nice to hear - there is not a lot of data there - more personal than professional level data - however it does constitute about a years worth of work [17:35] sabqat9: I'm sorry to hear that :-( I hate spontaneous data loss. [17:35] dumb question - is there a diy method of recovering this data without software? [17:35] sabqat9: Is there? Yes. Is it easy? Noooooooo. [17:36] another dumb question - what is the method [17:37] sabqat9: http://free-backup.info/diy-hard-drive-recovery-for-the-extremely-desperate.html [17:37] the title sounds about right - 'Extremely Desperate' [17:38] sabqat9: Figured that would get a chuckle [17:40] Can I mention the 'B' word now? [17:40] squaregoldfish: "'B' word"? [17:40] BACKUP! [17:40] hehe [17:40] squaregoldfish: PPPPAAARRGH [17:40] squaregoldfish: Prior Proper Planning Prevents AAARRRGH [17:41] I feel the aching pain of not following the mantra of the all powerful 'b' word [17:41] :) [17:41] god have mercy on my data [17:41] I suspect most people only learn to back up after they've lost their data. I did. [17:41] sabqat9: As soon as I learned how to use crontab I set up a service to copy my /home partition to a network drive every hour [17:44] Incidentally, I'd look into pro data recovery services. From what I've heard they're generally pretty good, but it will depend how much your data's worth to you. [17:44] actually, if you can spare the change, Ubuntu One is pretty nice. [17:51] I just called a local data recovery outfit in my area - the starting price for data recovery for my situation . . . . . . . . $500 . . . . . . for a $100 drive that is 6 years old [17:51] christ. [17:53] to anyone reading this chat - - - Backup - - - Backup now - - it is like those crazy street people with the biblical billboard signs - - you never know the day or the hour - - the end is upon us - - backup now and backup often [17:54] sabqat9: That price sounds about right. Bit cheaper than I was expecting to be honest. [17:56] you are not going to believe this [17:57] during my search for my user files in windows xp - i had loaded several users - the user i thought held my files was empty - searched through other users and voila! my files are safe and recoverable [17:57] DO NOT switch off that drive until you've got everything off it! Good luck - I have to go... [17:58] I sorry for taking up your time - my heart was in my mouth for the past hour dealing with this situation [17:59] I was worried sabqat9 , now feeling better :) [17:59] Get a copy QUICK [18:00] I am backing everything up from the drive - - This has taught me the valuable lesson of - - BACKUP - - which is why I have switched FreeNAS to store my data - - with the goal of creating other ways of creating Backups of my Backups to my Backups [18:03] Also learned that working in the data recovery business makes good money - great business model - - desperate clients wanting unique services - - second only to prostitution [18:04] sabqat9: hahaha. But I have to warn you [18:04] !language |sabqat9 [18:04] sabqat9: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [18:06] sorry - i was watching my language - i was wondering if the 'p' word was going too far - maybe it was the context - my apologies to everyone [18:07] Is anybody else having an issue with a D-Link router where your connection is reset every few seconds? [18:07] !networking |Darkness_Des [18:07] Factoid 'networking' not found [18:07] ... [18:08] That's lame. [18:08] ... [18:08] I can give you networking info if you want. [18:09] Darkness_Des: Have you tried ##networking ? [18:09] Nope. [18:09] Anyways - I won't bother you guys anymore - thanks for listening though - I will watch my wandering fingers (on my keyboard) next time - backups are running smoothly - thanks again [18:09] Never heard of it. [18:09] Darkness_Des: This is really a general Ubuntu support channel, not so much other things. [18:09] Darkness_Des: It's an IRC channel on FreeNode. [18:10] Well, thing is, it works fine on any other OS that we run it works fine. I know it's not my wireless card, I dual boot with XP and it works perfect on there. Thanks, I'll give them a shot. [18:10] Darkness_Des: Oh th-- uh shffdnjadsu darn it. [18:11] :) [19:09] does anyone else have a problem with loading web pages especially google? [19:09] enseniks: Nopw [19:09] nope* [19:10] its only on linux and i've tried different browsers [19:11] its not like i have a funny connection its just straight adsl [19:11] ekseniks, goto terminal and type ping www.google.com [19:11] and see the response time [19:13] between 400 and 1000 ms but the thing i'm talking about is if the page doesn't load within a second or two, it times out [19:13] 1000ms is a second :P [19:13] ye [19:13] its tooooo slow [19:14] i mean if it doesn't load then after like 30 seconds it times out [19:15] if i search something in google i normally spam the search button for a while then it'll go through [19:15] its not a major issue its just really annoying [19:16] is there anything i can try? i'm relatively sure its not the line, router or the browser [19:29] can any one please tell me roughly what size they would expect /var/log to be? [19:30] or even what size it is on your system [19:31] mines "unknown" :/ [19:31] sugna: Mine is 6.3 MB [19:32] ekseniks: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer can give you that information [19:32] ekseniks: you could try different DNS entries. Namebench will test the different Name Servers and tell you which is faster for you http://www.ohbuntu.blogspot.com/2010/01/find-set-fastest-dns-server-for.html [19:32] oh wait mines 5.1 excluding some unreadable stuff [19:32] mine seems disproportionately large: 2.1GB [19:33] thanks duanedesign! i'll give it a try [19:33] sugna: yeah, mine is 253 items, totalling 6.3 MB [19:33] sugna: Look at the usage analyzer I showed ekseniks and see what's taking up all the room [19:33] /var/log is no place to hide your porn collection :P [19:35] lol [19:37] looking in a terminal the ones that number 100+megs are kern.log, kern.log1 messages messages1 syslog1 and ufw.log [19:37] is that unusual? [19:40] sugna: That looks like your system has major problems [19:40] do you know what sort? [19:41] sugna: it might be ACPI filling up your logs [19:42] +duanedesign:sorry whats ACPI [19:42] sugna: might check the kern.log and see if any particular messages are repeated over and over [19:44] +duanedesign:it contains hundreds of references to UFW [19:44] +duanedesign:could it be ufw logging what it does [19:48] hmm, ok [19:48] I'm trying to have a look at messages1 but it's taking a while to open [19:53] sugna: are all the UFW messages different? Does it seem like an error. you can also look at the files under System > Administration > Log File Viewer [19:55] hey, I have a problem with thunderbird, I have an e-mail account that I must send my e-mail through but outgoing does not work at my home network [19:55] steelsteve: Have you double-checked your SMTP settings? [19:55] I use Verizon e-mail and ports and servers are correct, AND it works elsewhere [19:56] it just doesn't work at home [19:56] SMTP is correct [19:56] steelsteve: Is this the only account on that setup? ie. Do you have a GMail or something else on Thunderbird? [19:56] I have Gmail and that works [19:56] sending that is [19:57] the Verizon account DOES work when receiving [19:57] +duanedesign: just realised what might be the cause. A few days ago i turned up the ufw logging level then turned it down again yesterday [19:57] duanedesign:could that be the cause [19:57] steelsteve: Doublecheck the account server settings. You may have it set to use the GMail SMTP server by accident. [19:58] sugna: yes it could [19:58] nope, it's all correct, I just used that account to send an e-mail and it worked [19:58] on a different network [19:58] so obviously the problem is the DSL network at home, since everything works elsewhere [19:58] steelsteve: How odd. The only thing that comes to mind is blocking SMTP traffic, but you have to manually set that up. [19:58] sugna: could you check if this command returns anything. pgrep -fl cron [19:59] pgrep -fl cron [19:59] aveilleux: but the fact that I can send (at home) using my G-mail account that uses SMTP rationally takes that problem out of existence [20:00] steelsteve: Yeah, I figured that. I really don't know what to say. [20:00] duanedesign: that returns 1112 cron [20:00] sugna: ok thats good [20:00] hum, well, I also have a problem with torrents but I think that because my Dad blocks any unnessicary ports (80, 25, 110, ect.) [20:00] sugna: there is a cron job that rotates your logs. [20:01] i know [20:01] steelsteve: In regards to torrents, just randomize your port [20:01] those ports names are nessicary [20:02] sugna: so croon is running. I would bet it was the increased log level setting. [20:02] but I only get 3, maybe 4 ports running EVER [20:02] 80, 25, 110, and a few others are the only ones that are open [20:02] does the rotator ever delete old logs? [20:03] steelsteve: He blocks incoming traffic??? Geez [20:03] randomizing ensures that few can even hit the ones that are open [20:03] because this is currently the biggest dir on my hd [20:03] incoming and outgoing [20:03] so yes aveilleux [20:03] steelsteve, that's so weird! [20:03] he's paranoid but it comes with his job [20:04] (when you work with how a certain energy plan is made, and make sure it's up to code, you tend to be excused for being paranoid) [20:05] steelsteve: Fair enough. It's still really paranoid by my standards, and I work for a DoD contractor :P [20:05] maybe you can convince him otherwise [20:06] (he also takes all his work home with him, so I don't know about you) [20:06] Day of Defeat? that was like the best HL mod evar [20:06] steelsteve: I'm pretty sure an father isn't likely to take advice from an 18-year-old college student :P [20:06] ha! [20:06] ekseniks: Hahaha. Department of Defense. [20:07] oh lol that makes more sense [20:07] wait, 18 and work for the DoD (indirectly)? [20:07] I knew it, being a linux person DOES make you pale in comparison to your peers [20:07] steelsteve: http://stl.uml.edu/staff/student.html Anthony Veilleux, at the bottom [20:08] * steelsteve is 20 and in danger of failing community college [20:08] D: [20:08] sugna: yes, look at gedit /etc/logrotate.conf to change settings [20:08] so, because you're a software person, by default you take your homework with you [20:09] but at the same time, you're dealing with lasers [20:10] steelsteve: I'm actually not allowed to take my work with me [20:10] duanedesign, "OpenDNS-2 364 ms | Incorrect result for www.google.com" i'm guessing that was my problem? [20:10] then you've got no right to say my dad's paranoid [20:11] he takes his codes with him [20:11] also, when you compare nuclear energy plants to a laser, what's less destructive? Nuclear energy goes in all directions, Lasers, one, maybe two... [20:11] steelsteve: The lab doesn't even have those kind of restrictions [20:11] steelsteve: These lasers can travel for upwards of 30km, through concrete and steel. [20:12] and only in one direction [20:12] The laser structure's only ~10 feet long, it's mobile [20:12] nuclear energy can go 2-3 kilometers in all direction [20:12] not including the extra effect from fallout [20:12] Imagine the range of destruction, one of these rotating at 5 deg/s for five minutes [20:13] ANYWAY! My apologies for going offtopic. [20:13] fallout! [20:13] lol [20:13] !offtopic |aveilleux [20:13] aveilleux, please see my private message [20:13] ubot2 can PM now? Nifty [20:13] aveilleux: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [20:13] And respond to queries :o [20:15] its ok ubot2 we don't like you for your brain we like you for your body :D [20:15] crap, black lagoon episode 4 has been removed... [20:24] aveilleux: HEHEHE [20:25] speaking of sentient bots, here's zkreisse [20:26] BOT: A supposed person in a channel who is actually a program [20:27] zkreisse: !zkreisse [20:27] zkriesse: zkriesse is a bot meant to help [20:28] zkriesse: the bot is going away to eat some electrons [20:28] Oooooh yay cloak. [20:29] zkreisse: Have fun :P [20:30] !huh? [20:30] Factoid 'huh?' not found [20:30] lol [20:43] zkriesse: is back [20:43] suprengr: hello [20:49] duanedesign, i thank you very very much! Its working awesome now! it looks like it was the dsn servers [20:53] ekseniks: ahh great [20:54] ekseniks: i was just about to send you this link and i got busy doing something else. http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html [20:54] aveilleux: A good gal who knows the stuff about stuff [20:54] ekseniks: glad it is better [20:54] duanedesign: a guy who's knowing is awesome [20:57] i may have jumped the gun a little :/ how it resolves fast but then it sits on "waiting for " until it fails [21:35] hi, i was wondering if someone could shed light on the mic issue i discussed yesterday [21:36] talked to hobgoblin and paultag about this [21:40] can anyone assist? [21:41] tpjmiami: sup [21:41] ubot2: !ask [21:41]