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akgranerHi all :-)02:13
dakerhi akgraner !02:25
akgranerdaker, hi02:26
dholbachgood morning08:14
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pendulum_Hiya11:11
AlanBellhi pendulum_11:11
pendulum_AlanBell: How goes?11:12
AlanBellbusy playing with elgg today11:12
pendulum_Cool :)11:13
AlanBellnice empty house again after having lots of people round at the weekend11:13
pendulum_Heh11:13
AlanBellmet my new niece11:15
AlanBellhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/caitlin.jpg11:16
pendulum_Aww :)11:16
jussivoi pienta!11:42
AlanBellcan be detached?11:44
AlanBellah, may be small11:45
AlanBellVoi pientä11:46
jussiAlanBell: its the kind of thing you say when you see a baby... similar to "aww, cute"11:48
elkyAlanBell, jussi is still trying to pretend to be european, you see.11:58
jussilol11:58
pendulum_Haha12:01
* AlanBell thinks Australia needs to learn to let go12:05
jussihehe12:07
jussijjust let go, Im not worth it anyhow :P12:07
elkyOh, Finland can keep him, but we get to keep picking on him no matter what.12:45
elky'tis the Aussie way.12:46
jussielky: :(12:54
* elky pats jussi on the head.12:55
jussielky: oh come on... Im not 5 anymore...12:55
* jussi guesses that he is of a similar age to elky...12:55
elkyapproaching 29?12:56
jussiyes12:56
jussi82 born12:56
elkybut if you were born just one day before me, you qualify as a young'n :P12:56
jussielky: 4/4/82... am I a young'n?12:57
elkyThis is the wrong channel for this now anyway12:57
elkyjussi, by 6mths.12:57
jussihehe12:57
czajkowskialoha13:47
czajkowskiakgraner: ping15:38
czajkowskiGiving a talk next month on women in open source and Ubuntu women, wondering have folks been at similar presentations15:53
czajkowskithe audience will have limited open source knowledge15:53
hypatiaczajkowski: if you haven't seen skud's OSCON keynote from last year: http://infotrope.net/blog/2009/07/25/standing-out-in-the-crowd-my-oscon-keynote/16:04
czajkowskihypatia: Thanks, much appreciated.16:05
hypatia:)16:05
czajkowskimy interview on podcast about after 6 mins http://www.pcliveradio.ie/ubuntu-and-more/16:06
hypatiaczajkowski: some more here: http://delicious.com/hypatia.ca/unlockingtheclubhouse+opensource16:06
hypatiahttp://denise.dreamwidth.org/23600.html is freaking fantastic16:06
czajkowskicheers16:06
czajkowskithis is all new to me16:07
AlanBellSam Bail did one at oggcamp16:08
czajkowskiso if you were sitting in a room16:10
czajkowskinot heard of open source16:10
czajkowskiand were being told about UW16:10
czajkowskiwhat would you like to hear16:10
AlanBellwho is in the room?16:11
czajkowskiwomen in business16:11
AlanBellah, that makes a huge difference!16:12
czajkowskiA bit of background about the City Learning Centres.  City Learning Centres were established in what were named Education Action Zones, these are deprived inner city areas of England predominantly old industrial cities e.g. London, Manchester. Birmingham, Leeds, Newcastle etc.  A typical CLC will have an AV studio, advanced print facilities,  video conferencing etc.  We explore new technologies on all platforms Mac,16:12
czajkowskiWhat I'd like is a what works well session to familiarise the audience with the Ubuntu Women project, why it was established,  its aims and its successes.  How the  community communicates and organises itself and how CLCs can work with the community and possibly extend its reach into secondary schools in England.16:13
czajkowskisorry for over paste16:13
AlanBellwhat do you want them to do as a result of hearing your talk?16:18
czajkowskiwell to have a better knowlege of Ubuntu and what the UW team is about16:19
AlanBelldo you want them to get involved? Use Ubuntu?16:21
czajkowskiwell yes, to both16:23
czajkowskifor them to know there is an alternative out there16:23
czajkowskiknow the resources that are available to them16:23
AlanBelldon't focus on the information you want them to absorb because that will be like reading them a wikipedia page, focus on making them enthusiastic to do something16:25
czajkowskiok16:26
AlanBelland then you pursuade them that doing what you want them to do is easy and fun by giving all the information you want them to absorb16:26
czajkowskiwell also these are managers, you want to get them to see it's easy and here to help also16:27
AlanBellso like my votegeek presentation started out by wanting people to go out and vote. The presentation gave a lot of information that justified what I wanted them to do.16:27
czajkowski*nods*16:28
czajkowskiok16:28
AlanBellso you are talking to a bunch of women and you want them to go away afterwards and get involved in the Ubuntu Community16:29
AlanBellbecause it will be good strategically for their businesses16:30
czajkowskiyes but there will be others bar women there16:30
czajkowskiI think16:30
czajkowskigoing by the website16:30
AlanBellbecause the community is friendly and supportive16:30
czajkowskiAlanBell: cheers16:31
AlanBellmixed audience is fine, the point is you are not talking to an open source geek crowd in need of an attitude adjustment!16:32
AlanBellyou are selling them the benefits of our wonderful community16:32
AlanBelland telling them to get their collective backsides down to london for the 13th :-) http://ubuntuinbusiness.eventbright.com16:33
czajkowskiyes good point16:35
AlanBellczajkowski: the city learning centres are Becta funded and Becta is for the chop. They might have significant funding issues heading their way.16:40
czajkowski*nods*16:43
czajkowskiwell as of yesterday it;s still going ahead as I've to submit a bio and sort out flights16:43
AlanBellyes, didn't mean the conference might get cut. Just they might be looking for innovative ways to make significant savings. Most of their priorities are about technology http://localauthorities.becta.org.uk/index.php?section=ndi&catcode=la_clc_0116:44
czajkowski*nods*16:58
czajkowskiAlanBell: see pm17:01
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bekabugcan't get into ubuntu-women unless invited.  when did this start?21:08
AlanBellsome weeks ago bekabug in response to a lot of trolls and wiki vandalism21:10
bekabughow annoying (of the trolls) :/  I guess I'll wait around for an invite21:10
JanCbekabug: do we know you from somewhere?21:11
bekabugprobably not :)21:12
bekabugi'm bekabug on undernet21:12
czajkowskibekabug: I think JanC meant, in the project or in Ubuntu21:13
bekabugi understood and no. i'm a lurker in this channel and others21:14
Pendulumbekabug: you should delurk some here then so we can get to know you :)21:15
bekabugi've actually learned quite a bit just being quiet and watching. one day i'll have something to say that will be informed and intelligent haha21:16
macomistakes are how you learn :)21:17
PendulumI'm not sure I say stuff that's informed and intelligent often21:22
Pendulumspeaking of which, is there anyone here who'd be willing to help me relearn C and learn Python this summer?21:22
Pendulum(or in the next few months, not limited to the summer)21:22
AlanBellI did some C 18 years ago. Still trying to forget it.21:24
PendulumI actually liked C when I was trying to learn it at uni21:25
Pendulummy lack of learning it had to do with a crap instructor and the fact that I was writing my thesis at the same time so didn't have loads of energy to devote to my non-thesis classes21:25
AlanBellpointer arithmetic just shouldn't be allowed.21:25
macoPendulum: i can maybe answer questions21:25
macowhen i get stuck in C, i ask in #linuxchix21:26
macothere are some darned good programmers in there21:26
Pendulummost of my C related problem is not really knowing where to start. because we didn't use a textbook or anything in the class I took so I need to figure out something that will work for that21:26
Pendulum(python I at least have a couple tutorials to use)21:27
AlanBellPython is nice. I am just a beginner, but I think it kind of makes sense.21:27
JanCPendulum: I can help answering questions about python21:31
akgranerHi all - I added all the people who answered the email about hidden email addresses - but if you have not received your voter email and you were a member of the UW LP team before May - please email me21:44
dakerJanC, i need help pls21:46
daker<daker> revisionist, self.menu = gtk.Menu()21:46
daker<daker> self.item1 = gtk.MenuItem("Test1", False)21:46
daker<daker> self.item1.show()21:46
daker<daker> self.item2 = gtk.MenuItem("Test2", False)21:46
daker<daker> self.item2.show()21:46
daker<daker> self.menu.append(self.item1)21:46
AlanBell!paste21:46
ubot4For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:46
daker<daker> self.menu.append(self.item2)21:50
daker<daker> after showing the menu i want to edit the labels of item1 & item221:50
valorieAlanBell: cute!22:51
valorieshe seems to be fascinated by your ear22:51
akgranerelky,  thank you!22:54
valorieakgraner, I don't think I got the vote email22:54
valoriewhat address should I search for, that it was mailed from?22:54
valoriecould be in my spam or something22:55
akgranershould have CIVS in the subject line22:55
valorieCIVS?22:55
akgranermailed from my ubuntu.com address22:55
valoriek22:56
valoriethanks so much, there it is22:56
akgranerthe subject line it sends me looks different from the ones it sends everyone else22:57
akgranerso I don't know the exact subject line22:58
pleia2"Poll: Ubuntu Women Project 2010-2011 Leadership Elections"22:59
akgranerahh ok22:59
akgranerlet me email the list to let them know what to look for - I am sure it might have wound up in SPAM for others as well22:59
AlanBellvalorie: yup very cute22:59
AlanBelland the baby is nice too :-)22:59
akgranerwhy am I getting mails going to ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com - I don't remember signing up for the uk mailing list?23:02
AlanBellpopey: ^^23:02
akgranerand it's about resetting my twitter password23:03
AlanBellthat sounds spamish23:03
akgranernods23:03
JanCthat sounds like malware23:04
AlanBellthere has been no twitter related discussion on -uk mailing list today23:04
akgranerI got one from Ubuntu-nl list too23:04
akgranerahhhh23:04
JanCdon't they come with an .exe attached?23:04
akgranerhere is the header23:05
akgranerfromTwitter <twitter-resetpw-ubuntu-uk=lists.ubuntu.com@postmaster.twitter.com>23:05
akgranerreply-tonoreply@postmaster.twitter.com23:05
akgranertoubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com23:05
akgranerdateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM23:05
akgranersubjectReset your Twitter password23:05
JanCyeah, that was malware IIRC23:05
pleia2yeah, I've been getting them all day23:05
akgranerahh ok23:06
JanCI've been getting them for several days now23:06
valorieIt didn't go in my spam, but not in my ubuntu folder, either23:06
* valorie adds @ubuntu.com to filters to that folder23:06
valoriehave we heard anything on the new logo?23:11
czajkowskianyone know where I'd find a link to the essays from the 1st competition online?23:11
pleia2czajkowski: it's linked on the front page of the wiki23:11
pleia2http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/InternationalWomensDay/HowIDiscoveredUbuntu23:11
pleia2there ;)23:11
czajkowskimy googling skills were failing me23:12
czajkowskicheers23:12

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