crimsun_nixternal: got time for a query?00:00
nixternalcrimsun_: always have time00:03
bdrungcan someone confirm the statements in bug #589898? is the doc in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML?00:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 589898 in tellico (Ubuntu) "Sync tellico 2.2-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58989800:40
JontheEchidnadebian used to put in kde4/HTML, but now they've switched to kde/ like us00:54
JontheEchidnabdrung: ^00:54
bdrung_JontheEchidna: and the symlinks stuff?00:58
JontheEchidnabdrung_: all accurate00:58
bdrung_JontheEchidna: thanks. the sync request is fine then00:59
JontheEchidnabdrung_: yup, I thought I had ack'd that one, too. Must have not gone through or something.00:59
JontheEchidnathanks for taking care of it00:59
claydohJontheEchidna: is there a workaround for bug #58649701:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 586497 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Lucid) "kpackagekit install security update in automatic mode without authorization" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58649701:22
claydohtrying to help on the mailing list01:22
ScottKclaydoh: The only one I know of is uninstall kpackagekit.01:23
claydohScottK: so it fixed this for you I assume?01:25
ScottKclaydoh: As far as I know.01:26
ScottKThat also, of course, also removed the thing that told me they were being installed.01:26
ScottKclaydoh: It looks like it does.  I have uninstalled security updates.01:28
* ScottK fixes that.01:28
claydohkool, quassel tray icon flashes a kmail icon overlayed on it, funky 01:31
claydohthanks ScottK01:31
ScottKclaydoh: Then if you click on it, it will take to you the channel you were highlighted from.01:32
claydohyeah, never noticed the kmail icon tho before :)01:33
ScottKThat's new in Lucid.01:34
DarkwingDuckProgramming or Computer Security?01:39
DarkwingDucktrying to figure out my major at ITT Tech01:39
claydohboth :)01:42
DarkwingDuckNavy will only pay for me to take one of them.01:48
DarkwingDuckand seeing that it will cost me no $$....01:49
ScottKLucid SRU? http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4250/diff/#index_header02:56
DarkwingDuckOkay, if anyone is listening... WebKit HATES WordPress backend. Will not post to WP.05:57
DarkwingDuckWell, more spisificly Rekonq05:58
DarkwingDuckspecifically  05:58
DarkwingDuckOuch, I need sleep05:58
Quintasan|Szelfew days left06:56
Quintasan|SzelCAE exam tomorrow and on 19th and I06:57
Quintasan|SzelI' free*06:57
jussihrm, anyone know if scanlite has an irc channel?07:23
apacheloggergood morning kubuntu o/08:45
jussimorning apachelogger08:48
Riddellgood morning harald and kubuntu09:12
jussio/ Riddell09:13
Riddelljussi: am I ok to come to yours on july 1st?09:16
jussiRiddell: Absolutely!09:16
Riddellhow do I get there from Tampere airport?09:17
jussiRiddell: you are aware its about a 5hour trip?09:17
jussibut bus to the trainstation (ryanair bus) and then train to Oulu09:18
Riddell5 hours?  I'll need a sauna after that09:18
jussino problems!09:18
jussiwe have an awesome sauna, wood fired. :)09:18
Riddelldoesn't it get smokey?09:19
jussino. it has a chimney...09:19
jussiours is a little different, but along the lines of this: http://www.cedarbarrelsaunas.com/images/facts/1164688105vcvc.jpg09:24
jussiRiddell: in anycase, you are more than welcome :)09:25
* jussi goes to grab luch09:25
jussilunch even09:25
Riddellyay, kde4libs building on armel10:04
jussihrm, it would be very cool to have the quick access plasmoid functionality integrated into lancelot... :D10:08
=== apachelogger is now known as fluffymaster
jussiI had an idea. I dont know how it would be implemented, but it would be cool if we could somehow have a "packages related to" part in kpackagekit. so if you looked at gwenview, it would give you kipi-plugins etc. 10:17
* jussi wonders what fluffymaster thinks10:18
Riddell"people who installed gwenview also installed kipi-plugins"10:18
agateauisn't that what "Recommends" is for?10:19
jussiyeah, perhaps... 10:19
* fluffymaster notes that people will not care what people do :P10:19
jussiagateau: the normal user doesnt know about recommends10:19
fluffymaster"Matt installed gwenview and also installed kipi-plugins."10:19
fluffymasterthat is of course in case I know matt and matt knows me and we are friends and stuff10:20
jussiagateau: putting recommends somewhere obvious might be helpful10:20
fluffymasterrecommends are installed automagically10:20
jussifluffymaster: it could just use popcon10:20
fluffymasterSuggests are not :)10:20
jussierr, yeah, suggests is what I was talking about10:20
fluffymasterjussi: -*- fluffymaster notes that people will not care what people do :P10:20
fluffymasteralso popcorn is but a limited fraction of users10:21
jussifluffymaster: aactually people care...10:21
fluffymasterand whats worse, it is those users that actually found the setting to turn popcorn on10:21
fluffymasterso it also got limited importance IMHO10:21
jussithe fact is half the time there is cool functionality that can be added to a program and people often dont find it10:21
jussilike kipi plugins...10:21
fluffymasterjussi: and having usage data from a bunch of geeks will help with that :P10:22
agateaujussi: I recommend trying kapti :)10:22
agateauwhich shows recommend as clickable links10:22
jussifluffymaster: it likely will, because the geeks use the cool stuff10:22
jussiagateau: kapti?10:22
fluffymasterjussi: look at the stats and say that again :P10:23
fluffymastera) our gwenview package is bonkers10:23
fluffymasterit does neither suggest nor recommend kipi-plugins10:23
fluffymasterb) kpk indeed needs to present suggests a bit better10:23
agateaujussi: http://gitorious.org/kapti/pages/Home10:23
jussiin anycase, making it easier for people to find cool extra stuff is a plus!10:23
fluffymasterb.a) b) raises the issue of how to do this with packages like kile which got a billion billion recommends, suggests, depends, breaks...10:23
agateaujussi: would love to get your feedback on kapti btw :)10:25
jussiagateau: sure. /me turns on newbie mode10:26
jussiagateau: needs to hide several bits of information maybe use little +'s10:26
jussiand hide recomends and depends by default10:27
jussiagateau: as Im sure you know, some prettifying would go a long way10:27
agateaugood point10:27
agateausure :)10:28
agateauI was mostly interested in the interaction here10:28
agateauI find it quite nice to click a recommend, read about it, maybe install it, and click "Back" to return to the original package10:28
jussiand the first page it would be nice to have categories - maybe using the "section"10:28
jussiso you can "browse"10:29
agateauit only does search for now :/10:29
jussialso, have some way to toggle between "all packages" and "programs" (eliminating libs etc)10:30
agateaugood idea10:30
agateaumaybe list programs first, then lists, with a separators10:31
agateauso that there is no need to toggle anything10:31
jussimaybe - but you need to keep the interface clean, or new people's heads will explode...10:31
agateauthat's why I want to avoid too many toggles and options10:32
vishhi  , I'm not sure of the workflow in kubuntu , Bug 506945 might be closed i supposed10:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 506945 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "ksplashx default theme does not update" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50694510:32
jussiagateau: Id suggest the "programs only" mode by default and just have an "advanced mode". roll a few things into one.10:33
agateaujussi: I don't plan to work a lot on this though, I initially did this as an experiment, hoping to sparkle some ideas for KPK10:34
jussibut this is nice because its !fast!10:34
jussiagateau: sure - Im just giving feadback as to ways that would help me explain to my fiancee for example. 10:34
agateaujussi: I see we have similar target users :)10:34
jussithats how I think about it with new people - can I explain this to my fiancee :D10:35
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
jussiagateau: Ill offer more feedback as we go along10:36
agateaujussi: thanks10:36
fluffymasteragateau: could you or conor or both of you get back on aseigo's suggestions regarding soundindicator?10:43
agateaufluffymaster: where did he made such suggestions?10:44
fluffymasteragateau: in the thread I started some weeks ago10:44
fluffymasteragateau: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2010-May/004413.html10:44
fluffymastershould also have been CCd to ayatana IIRC10:44
agateauoh this one10:45
agateauit's a bit late to answer I think10:45
agateauronoc is busy setting up a shared place for devs to discuss10:46
agateauand will be inviting kde devs to join this new list when it's ready10:46
agateaushould be more appropriate than kubuntu-devel10:46
fluffymasteragateau: isnt that what the xdg list is for?10:52
agateaufluffymaster: it's hard to get something productive out of xdg10:52
agateaufluffymaster: I think a list more focused on the subject is better10:53
* jussi sighs10:53
jussiwhy can I find a program that does simple stuff easily... like crop to a circle shape :/10:53
fluffymasterthat is not simple :P10:53
fluffymasteragateau: the subject being the soundmenu?10:54
agateauyes, and maybe mpris?10:54
fluffymasterwell, is there that much too discuss, because creating a list for every new thingy seems a bit over the top *shrug*10:55
agateauit's also about reducing noise10:56
agateauI must confess I stopped reading xdg long ago10:56
agateauIf I were a music app developer, I would rather read a list about soundmenu and mpris I think10:57
fluffymastermailig lists are a bit of an undynamic media :)10:57
fluffymasteragateau: then again you can get easily fragmented and people will have to subscribe to a billion lists10:57
agateauyes, mailing lists suck a bit, but that's the best we have :/11:00
agateauwhat's better a billion lists, or one list with a billion topics?11:00
fluffymasternone IMHO, unfortunately we are short on options :/11:01
agateauindeed :/11:01
fluffymasteranyhow, back to programming a nethack clone ^^11:01
agateaua pink one, I presume11:02
fluffymasterhm, I didnt think of that ... it is for a university assignment ... pink certainly could get me bonus points I suppose :D11:03
RiddellJontheEchidna: could you add a test case to bug 529562 , then I can test and get it approved11:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 529562 in virtuoso-opensource (Ubuntu Lucid) "package libvirtodbc0 6.1.0-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52956211:06
Riddellshadeslayer_: how's that linphone MIR coming?11:09
TroubleSomething about the desktop effects in 4.5 beta 4 really make my desktop crawl :-/11:40
ScottKTrouble: That's a bit odd since we're on beta 2.11:41
jussiTrouble: I have that in beta 2...11:43
Troublelol beta 4, oops11:44
TroubleI've hurt my finger doing DIY and it's going all over the place11:45
Troublejussi: good to know. No flashy effects until beta 3 :-p11:45
jussiTrouble: do you use lancelot?11:45
TroubleNo 'fraid not11:45
jussiTrouble: would you mind installing it for a min to test something for me?11:46
jussibasically, on my machine, the highlight lags behind where the mouse is - want to see if thats across most machines11:47
TroubleGive me a min11:48
jussino probs!11:48
TroubleYea, extremely laggy!11:49
TroubleEven with desktop effects off (which improved the performance generally in KDE)11:49
jussiright, so its not just me then...11:50
TroubleHow frustrating11:50
TroubleActually disabling desktop effects only makes the generally performance better, everything is still laggy11:53
TroubleBut Lancelot was particularily laggy11:53
TroubleAhh now I've had a chance to check my processes Xorg is eating up all my CPU11:55
TroubleTho' curiously my CPU graph in the task bar doesn't show thois11:56
TroubleRight, let's test Lancelot again12:00
Troublejussi: Lancelot is actually fine now12:01
jussiTrouble: what did you do?12:01
TroubleBut it was particularily laggy (more laggy than the rest of KDE) when Xorg was eating up all available CPU ;-)12:02
TroubleI rebooted12:02
jussilaggy all the time for me12:02
TroubleI've had some wa12:02
TroubleStupid hurting finger12:02
TroubleI've had some warning about compositing being temporaily disabled since installing beta 2, so earlier I disabled desktop effects completely, but just noticed Xorg was using all CPU12:03
TroubleCompositing and graphical performance was working fine in 4.412:04
Troublejussi: You got desktop effects on?12:04
jussinot on this machine, but its same at home with them on12:05
* fregl wonders where to start investigating when acpi and hal both report no current battery charge state12:33
Riddellfregl: linux12:47
freglRiddell: yeah... I'm currently browsing linux-acpi mailing lists and may file a kernel bug... bah12:48
* fregl hugs Riddell :)12:48
Riddellmm, now I feel all loved12:51
fregldude, you should ;)12:59
RiddellSime_: chap on kde-devel mailing list with a Python query13:02
* Riddell notes the xscreensaver packaging has been rejigged again and kscreensaver will need tofollow13:15
shadeslayer_Riddell: havent gotten to it yet,will do it now :)13:19
JontheEchidnaagateau: plingy13:22
fluffymasterI am back13:26
fluffymasterand there I go again ^^13:30
agateauJontheEchidna: plongy13:33
agateauJontheEchidna: just saw your mail about kapti c++!13:33
JontheEchidnaagateau: :D13:33
agateauJontheEchidna: haven't had the time to try it yet13:33
agateauJontheEchidna: I guess I will need to build libqapt at some point13:34
JontheEchidnaPlease poke around with it if you do, and see if the library is usable13:34
agateauJontheEchidna: is libqapt packaged somewhere already?13:35
JontheEchidnait can't get a list of depends or recommends yet, only reverse-depends. Still on the todo13:35
JontheEchidnaagateau: On my ppa, but I need to update it13:35
agateauah ok, yes depends and recommends are important13:35
agateauthat's part of what makes Kapti interesting to me: browsing recommends13:36
agateauJontheEchidna: I guess the code is on LP otherwise13:36
JontheEchidna...but it can show reverse-depends :P13:36
agateauJontheEchidna: yes... I guess it's useful for you :)13:36
JontheEchidnaeh, not really. I've not had a need for reverse-depends yet. I just haven't found time/motivation to code the other ones yet13:37
JontheEchidnabut maybe kapti will be that motivation13:37
=== fluffymaster is now known as apachelogger
agateauJontheEchidna: are you interested in continuing to work on Kapti?13:40
JontheEchidnaI don't know if it'd be a good idea for me to take on yet another project... Maybe a few contributions here and there13:41
JontheEchidnaAs it is, I'm maintaining QuickAccess (which I'm failing at), the Plasma Weather Wallpaper, kubuntu-notification-helper, and now libqapt and family13:42
agateauJontheEchidna: I see what you mean :)13:43
agateauJontheEchidna: too bad, at least I tried :)13:43
agateauJontheEchidna: I didn't know you are the author of the QuickAccess applet, I love it!13:43
JontheEchidnaagateau: not the author, just the maintainer after the old author disappeared13:43
agateauI still love it anyway :)13:44
JontheEchidnaI ported it through the days of the changing Plasma API in 4.1 times13:44
agateauit's one of the few to remain after I am done fiddling with the default desktop config13:44
JontheEchidnaIt needs some love for 4.5 though: bug 59276013:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 592760 in QuickAccess "QuickAccess plasmoid crashes Plasma workspace every time its clicked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59276013:44
JontheEchidnaSeems to be crashing in the ::paint event :(13:44
agateauthat says a lot about how much I have run 4.5 :/13:45
JontheEchidnaand I can't figure out how to fix it13:45
agateauI didn't encounter it13:45
* agateau clicks the link13:45
JontheEchidnahmm, thought that one had a backtrace13:45
JontheEchidnawell, in 4.5 it's not too hard to reproduce it at all :)13:46
JontheEchidnaI did figure out that the indexes handed to us by the KDirModel are invalid a lot of the time for some reason, and that checking for validity solves the crash, but displays nothing (though the items still work, even though they are invisible)13:47
JontheEchidnaanybody who can fix the crash + get the delegates painting will be my hero13:47
shadeslayeroh only if i knew coding plasma-widgets :(13:49
JontheEchidnahttp://pastebin.com/Gwd0dVve <-fixes the crash, but gives file delegates ninja p0warz13:49
* agateau clicks13:49
JontheEchidnabasically, if we check for isValid() it returns false and we get invisible items13:50
JontheEchidnacurrent bzr branch, if anyone's interested: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/quickaccess/0.8.x13:51
agateaucould it be a model index vs proxy index issue?13:51
agateauhave you tried disabling the proxy model?13:51
agateauJontheEchidna: ^13:53
JontheEchidnaI've not tried that13:53
JontheEchidnadoesn't seem to work at all without the proxy model13:56
JontheEchidnaoh, one other thing. If I enter a directory, things aren't invisible13:57
JontheEchidnaonly things in the starting directory are invisible13:57
shadeslayerwhee... my Ubuntu tshirt arrived :D13:58
shadeslayerYou are invited to open a free Google Voice account. To accept this invitation and create your account, ..... <clicks on link> ..... Google Voice is not available in your country. :P13:59
shadeslayerrosetta spammed me again ....14:00
JontheEchidnaIt tends to do that14:03
JontheEchidnaagateau: once libqapt svn1138233 is built in my ppa, you should be able to build kapti14:10
agateauJontheEchidna: ok thanks14:15
JontheEchidnaSome shinies: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopk27792-jpg.jpg , http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopo27792-jpg.jpg , http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopo27792-jpg.jpg14:16
JontheEchidnathe data used for the details page needs a bit of htmlizing work...14:16
agateaucan't tell, it's not on the shots :)14:17
agateau2nd and 3rd are the same url14:17
agateauit would be nice to use grantlee for the html14:18
agateauJontheEchidna: you added a "search" button, that's a good idea, it makes it more explicit that it's not an incremental search14:18
agateauJontheEchidna: my wife expected the output to fill as she typed the first time she tried kapti14:19
JontheEchidnathat could be accomplished14:19
JontheEchidnaas the user starts typing, set a qtimer for about a second14:19
JontheEchidnawell, after the user stops typing14:20
JontheEchidnathen as long as it's greater than 1 character, when that timer times out, do the search14:20
agateauwould be nice, if the search is not blocking14:20
JontheEchidnahmm, it might be. I'm not sure14:20
JontheEchidnasearch is pretty fast, as long as you don't search for a single character, but I'm not sure if it blocks or not14:21
JontheEchidnaagateau: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopa27792-jpg.jpg14:22
JontheEchidnahomepage appears if present, that package didn't have a homepage14:22
JontheEchidnabut as you can see, there are no linebreaks in the long description14:22
agateauJontheEchidna: I see14:22
JontheEchidnaneeds s/\n\<br>14:22
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: we need to do something like this to enhance our rockstart status: http://kdeatopensuse.wordpress.com/14:27
JontheEchidnathe whole kubuntu team's rockstart status, that is ;)14:28
shadeslayerRiddell: around?14:28
Riddellhi shadeslayer 14:28
shadeslayerRiddell: ok um can you help me with updating qtcreator?14:28
shadeslayerfrom beta 1 to rc 1 in archives?14:29
Riddellshadeslayer: first thing to check is has debian already done this for us?14:29
shadeslayerRiddell: we have bug 592786 in macerick14:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 592786 in qtcreator (Ubuntu) "qtcreator crashes on start in maverick" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59278614:29
shadeslayerp.d.o is down :(14:29
RiddellJontheEchidna: I am a little jelous of that blog it's quite interesting14:30
shadeslayerhmm.. now its working :P14:30
RiddellJontheEchidna: trouble is I do enough reporting as it is and I don't know if I'd keep up something like that14:30
shadeslayerRiddell: dont think so14:30
shadeslayerRiddell: http://packages.debian.org/sid/qtcreator14:31
Riddellshadeslayer: ok, so it's up to us14:31
Riddellshadeslayer: you have the new tar?14:31
shadeslayerRiddell: :)14:31
shadeslayerRiddell: yes14:31
Riddelland the current beta1 packaging?14:31
shadeslayerRiddell: in fact i tried to debuild yesterday :)14:32
shadeslayerRiddell: it complains the MOC has changed too much14:32
Riddellshadeslayer: what does your /etc/alternatives/qmake point to?14:32
shadeslayerRiddell: and the patch you introduced was applied upstream14:32
shadeslayerRiddell: what do i to see that?14:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I only care about mine :P14:33
* JontheEchidna was afraid of that14:33
Riddellshadeslayer: ls -l /etc/alternatives/qmake14:33
shadeslayerRiddell: 14:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: The problem is that such thins require someone to actually collect information and then write them up in nicely manner :/14:34
Riddellshadeslayer: there's your problem14:34
shadeslayerah.. we need qt4 there14:34
Riddellshadeslayer: adding  QMAKE = /usr/bin/qmake-qt4  in debian/rules  would be one way around it14:34
shadeslayerRiddell: ok.. whats the other way?14:34
apacheloggerupdate-alternatives :)14:35
Riddellyou can also run  update-alternatives --set qmake /usr/bin/qmake-qt414:35
Riddellshadeslayer: rm debian/patches/* is fine, nothing in there needs to be kept14:35
shadeslayerRiddell: ok one more thing,since i do that in my machine,but the build machine doesn know that...14:35
Riddellshadeslayer: the build machine runs in a clean environment without qt3 installed14:36
Riddellso no danger of it happening there14:36
shadeslayerah ok14:36
shadeslayerok building again :)14:36
shadeslayerRiddell: will upload to my ppa to test build and will ask to sponsor :)14:36
TroubleGah, Xorg is using eating up my CPU again :-s14:39
shadeslayerTrouble: maverick?14:39
Troubleshadeslayer: No lol14:39
TroubleLucid with 4.5 beta 2 ;-)14:39
shadeslayerTrouble: ah ok.. the xorg updates are just coming through now ( xorg 1.8 )14:40
TroubleOooo, didn't know there was any14:40
TroubleI haven't checked for existing bugs, been trying to concentrate on work :-p14:40
TroubleGood stuff, thanks shadeslayer14:40
shadeslayerTrouble: np14:40
shadeslayerTrouble: checkout http://ubuntuedge.wordpress.com/14:41
TroubleThough does seem to have happened when I installed beta 2 ;-)14:41
shadeslayerTrouble: im getting 200 MB of Xorg here 14:42
shadeslayerdunno if that is good or bad :P14:42
TroubleYou'll find out at the end :-p14:42
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/YCJ2fRmT build errors :)14:46
CIA-91[grantlee] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615134727-o88dkt2kfa49cd9z * debian/ (changelog control copyright) * Add BZR branch information * Update debian/copyright a bit and mention my copyright on debian/*14:47
CIA-91[grantlee] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615134903-lbqq3limv9s2in9g * (.bzr-builddeb .bzr-builddeb/default.conf) Add builddeb settings for packaging-only14:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: you have a copyright on debian ? \o/14:49
Riddellshadeslayer: yum, build system failures, my favourite14:50
* shadeslayer is running low on CPU cycles,14:51
shadeslayeron one hand we have apt unpacking the new xorg and rebuilding all drivers ( nvidia ones ) and on one hand i have qtcreator compiling14:51
shadeslayerCPU @ 70oC :o14:52
shadeslayerhmm.. i think the build system wasnt clean... i ran dh_clean and built again and its building14:54
apacheloggerScottK: bug 594608 pretty please14:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 594608 in lucid-backports "Please backport qtgain from maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59460814:56
CIA-91[grantlee] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615140005-z211hv33zb0ij2sr * debian/changelog releasing version 0.1.1-0ubuntu215:00
shadeslayerRiddell: still fails with new error : http://pastebin.com/Tcs38ivf15:01
Riddellshadeslayer: how did you work around the first one?15:02
Riddellah, dh_clean15:02
shadeslayerRiddell: :)15:03
Riddelldh_clean may well not be enough, qmake has horrible clean failures15:04
Riddellshadeslayer: I'd try it with a freshly unpacked tar 15:04
shadeslayerhmm.. ok15:04
shadeslayerRiddell: btw any idea where the Show Desktop plasmoid disappeared in maverick?15:05
shadeslayerRiddell: oh and can i rename the original tarball and the extracted folder?15:06
shadeslayerin qtcreator15:06
Riddellrename to what?15:06
Riddellextracted folder doesn't matter one way or the other15:06
shadeslayerRiddell: from qt-creator-2.0.0-rc1-src to qt-creator-2.0.0~rc115:07
Riddelltar needs to be qtcreator_2.0.0~rc1.orig.tar.gz15:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I think we should move bug 573977 out of kubuntu-meta, it just does not belong there.15:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 573977 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "plymouth-x11 should use Xlib instead of GTK+" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57397715:08
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: we could make the seed change15:10
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: to?15:10
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: not seed plymouth?15:10
JontheEchidnanot seed plymouth-x1115:10
JontheEchidnawhich slangasek says is optional15:10
apacheloggerWhy do we have it then? ^^15:11
apacheloggerAnd what is it ^^15:11
JontheEchidna!info plymouth-x1115:11
ubottuplymouth-x11 (source: plymouth): graphical boot animation and logger - X11 interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-2ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 24 kB, installed size 92 kB15:11
JontheEchidnaapt-cache show plymouth-x11 is a bit more informative15:11
JontheEchidnaI think it's the thing that allows you to run plymouth inside your session to test your themes, and the like15:12
JontheEchidnabut we're only using it for before X is started, and after it is shut down15:12
ScottK-droidJontheEchidna: What we need is -x11 split to have a gtk and an unwritten Qt front end.15:12
apacheloggerso it is only there for testing themes anyway? 15:14
apacheloggerShould be dropped I suppose :)15:14
ScottK-droidOn a different note, what about using update-alternatives for the JavaScript config stuff instead of patching the upstream stuff?15:16
apacheloggerwhy patching?15:17
shadeslayernext bug hug day announced :)15:17
apacheloggerwhat patching?15:17
TroubleI just changed my desktop theme from Air to Oxygen and Xorg is suddenly behaving normally again :-D15:17
apacheloggerScottK-droid: can I get ack on bug 594608 ^^15:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 594608 in lucid-backports "Please backport qtgain from maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59460815:18
* Trouble celebrates with a cup of tea and a digestive15:19
TroubleHelp yourselves btw15:19
TroubleDigestives for everybody!15:19
TroubleI think I got some Bourbons too15:19
ScottK-droidapachelogger: Done.15:22
apacheloggerScottK-droid: thanks, now there is also bug 594623 :)15:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 594623 in lucid-backports "Please backport grantlee from maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59462315:22
apacheloggerRiddell: bug 594608 please15:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 594608 in lucid-backports "Please backport qtgain from maverick" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59460815:23
Riddellapachelogger: busy reviewing 233 imports from debina currently15:23
Riddellthis is an exeedingly tedious task15:23
* apachelogger hugs Riddell15:24
apacheloggervalorie: qtgain should arrive in lucid-backports once an archive admin finds time :)15:24
ScottK-droidapachelogger: Commented. 15:25
apacheloggerScottK-droid: recommented15:26
shadeslayerkubotu: order cookies for Riddell apachelogger ScottK-droid15:29
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to Riddell apachelogger ScottK-droid.15:29
ScottK-droidapachelogger: Done. 15:30
* apachelogger munches cookies15:30
apacheloggerScottK-droid: thanks15:30
apacheloggersteveire: grantlee is now avaiable in maverick and should be arriving in the lucid-backports repo soonish15:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: does the new kinfocenter report CPU speeds in your install?15:31
steveireapachelogger: Awesome. Thanks.15:32
steveireWhich version? 0.1.1?15:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: in my installation I do not even have that stuff listed ...15:32
steveireCool. It doesn't matter to kjots, but it does to kmail in the soc branch15:33
apacheloggerfancy :D15:33
ScottK-droidapachelogger: Talk to JontheEchidna about patching for JavaScript config stuff. 15:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: pink15:33
JontheEchidnaor Riddell :P15:33
JontheEchidnaneither of us has committed to do it \o/15:34
apacheloggerJontheEchidna, Riddell: you do not need to patch anything :P15:34
ScottK-droidThink about update alternatives instead. 15:34
apacheloggernot even that15:34
shadeslayerhmm.. i think my middle button on the external mouse just broke....15:39
shadeslayeror this kernel doesnt support it anymore 0.o15:39
CIA-91[kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615143555-vddky5cd2ljp8210 * share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js Rename init script to override KDE's, no patching no nothing :P15:40
CIA-91[kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615144104-884du0nhv42ow1o0 * debian/changelog Rename plasma init script to override upstream's when KDS is installed.15:41
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: :P15:41
apacheloggerthat is btw the very way fluffy overrides both KDE and Kubuntu :P15:41
shadeslayerRiddell: whee... fails after building this time.. i can fix this on my own :)15:43
shadeslayerhmm... weird error : http://pastebin.com/76QQCxG015:50
Riddellapachelogger: how does that renamework?15:50
Riddellapachelogger: how does that rename work?15:50
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/76QQCxG015:52
apacheloggerRiddell: KDE uses 00-defaultLayout.js - I renamed our script to 00-defaultLayout.js, now ours will override theirs because plasma will search in KDEDIRS in order of appearance15:52
apacheloggeri.e. first kds and then the standard search paths15:52
apacheloggersince kds provides 00-defaultLayout.js already plasma will not run the one from the standard search path anymore15:52
apacheloggerin consequence fluffy just adds a 3rd 00-defaultLayout.js that will then override the one in kds and the standard search path for sessions where fluffy is listed as first KDEDIR15:53
shadeslayerRiddell: also i did rm debian/qtcreator//usr/share/qtcreator/gdbmacros/LICENSE.LGPL and we have http://pastebin.com/d0a1y3Sg15:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I am wondering what to do with bug 36749515:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 367495 in update-notifier-kde (Ubuntu) "[intrepid]: no upgrade notification for jaunty received, manual attempt says nothing to upgrade" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36749515:54
Riddellapachelogger: genius15:54
Riddellshadeslayer: where did you do the rm ?15:55
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/xYSx6CUg15:56
Riddellshadeslayer: and it it working now?15:57
shadeslayerRiddell: yes15:57
CIA-91[kubuntu-notification-helper] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615145901-rzx6rjetikpcnx52 * (debian/changelog src/daemon/installevent/installevent.cpp) Install libavcodec-extra-52 instead of a transitional package (LP: #571139)15:59
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: dunno15:59
apacheloggerkdepim got 203 open bugs :/16:00
CIA-91[akonadi-desktopcouch] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615150422-roxrrqrqx37uqwnx * desktop-couch-resource.cpp debugging++ working++ // "fixed" itemAdded()16:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: qtcreator doesnt seem to pick up qt4-demos 16:09
shadeslayerRiddell: qtcreator building in https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+packages 16:21
shadeslayerRiddell: _but_ i installed locally and it doesnt seem to pick up qt4-demons16:21
shadeslayerbrb in just a sec ( reboot )16:21
apacheloggershadeslayer_: I am not sure it should pickup demos at all16:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: um when you start qtcreator theres the examples 16:31
apacheloggerexamples != demos16:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: do those examples reside in other packages?16:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: um : qt4-demos - Qt 4 examples and demos16:32
apacheloggerjust saying :P16:32
shadeslayersays the same thing in description :)16:32
shadeslayerapachelogger: :P16:32
apacheloggerclearly the short description already proofs my point of examples != demos :P16:32
macooh oh oh hey hey hey16:33
macoppa-dashboard is something kubuntu should have16:33
macolooky! http://sarvatt.com/xorg-edgers/16:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok how do i get those examples in qtcreator then?16:33
* shadeslayer looks at maco and his link16:33
macothere ya go16:34
shadeslayermaco: or like : http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html16:36
apacheloggershadeslayer_: I wouldnt know16:36
nixternalmaco: that link isn't working for me16:36
macoshadeslayer: yep yep16:36
shadeslayernixternal: try mine :)16:36
shadeslayernixternal: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html16:36
apacheloggerwe should buy fta and own the ppa-dashboard16:37
nixternaloh...dont' even know why I didn't catch that...yeah ppa-dashboard is pretty cool16:37
shadeslayermaco: the table is a bit complex to comprehend in the first look :)16:37
DarkwingDuckWhoot. I love Akonadi and Google syncing16:38
apachelogger[/usr/bin/akonadi_desktop-couch_resource] DesktopCouchResource::itemRemoved16:38
apachelogger[/usr/bin/akonadi_desktop-couch_resource] addressee was emtpy :(16:38
macoshadeslayer: but when people ask which ppa has which packages i'd be able to answer by looking at that ;-)16:38
apacheloggerwhat sor tof madness is that -.-16:38
shadeslayermaco: yeah :)16:38
apacheloggermaco: you can answer that by looking at the ubuntu source package page :P16:38
macoapachelogger: it tells you ppa versions too?16:38
apacheloggerunderneath the info table there is a "show other sources" or something16:39
apacheloggerthat lists published versions of the same source package in ppas16:39
shadeslayeryeah :)16:39
apacheloggernot to mention that you actually can search for it :P16:39
shadeslayermaco: like https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator16:40
shadeslayermaco: click on " Other versions of ' qtcreator ' ... "16:40
macoi see16:41
macohmm now i just have to know which package to look at when i want to answer "what version of kde..."16:41
shadeslayeryep :)16:42
shadeslayerso go to : launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs516:42
shadeslayerum.. wrong link :P16:43
apacheloggerkrunner -> usrc:kde4libs16:44
apacheloggerof course not in beta2 because it refuses to do that there :P16:44
apacheloggerat least for me16:44
shadeslayerbtw any people around with universe upload rights?16:47
Riddellhttp://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/20100610  "Nepomuk off by default "16:48
Riddell"Microblogging will break on 30th of June due to Twitter auth mechanism changes, Choqok and Plasma teams work on solutions, we'll backport and online update "16:49
shadeslayernot choqok .....16:50
nixternalmaco: hrmm, I tried using ppa-dashboard and it crashes out on me...need to figure this one out...doesn't look fun :)16:53
macoshadeslayer: its just twitter...proprietary web service... we all use identi.ca, right?16:54
macoshadeslayer: i have universe upload rights...16:54
shadeslayermaco: yep :)16:55
shadeslayermaco: awesome,will trouble you in a bit :)16:55
macogoody :P16:55
macoyou need a sponsor?16:55
shadeslayermaco: im waiting for this to build : https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+builds?build_state=building16:55
shadeslayermaco: yep :)16:55
macooh good you test your builds :)16:55
shadeslayerof course... locally and in a PPA16:55
maconigelb asked me to sponsor something the other day and i told him i dont have a pbuilder on this machine and had poor wifi at the con so i couldnt make a pbuilder so please confirm that it does build for him. ...he hadnt tested -_-16:56
shadeslayermaco: ok build is good to go,just add closes lp 592786 to the changelog ( i forgot to add that :P )17:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 592786 in qtcreator (Ubuntu) "qtcreator crashes on start in maverick" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59278617:00
macoheh ok17:01
shadeslayerand remove the ~ppa1 of course ;)17:01
macoof course17:02
shadeslayermaco: thanks a ton :)17:02
bulldog98shadeslayer: I know what the problem with rekonq is17:03
shadeslayerbulldog98: ok... what is it?17:03
bulldog98shadeslayer: flash needs to be an other version17:03
bulldog98flash crashes it17:03
shadeslayerbah... its always flash isnt it :P17:04
bulldog98shadeslayer: need to do an downgrade17:04
shadeslayerbulldog98: !downgrade :P17:05
* bulldog98 switches to gnash, but I don’t know how to manage17:05
nixternalfyi bulldog98, you can't watch pr0n with gnash :p17:06
shadeslayerbulldog98: there was something else too... some open source flash project,lightspark or something?17:06
nixternalat least that is what apachelogger told me17:06
shadeslayer!find lightspark maverick17:06
ubottuPackage/file lightspark does not exist in maverick17:06
apacheloggeryou cant17:06
bulldog98nixternal: don’t need that17:06
apacheloggersimply doesnt work17:06
apacheloggerdunno why :(17:06
bulldog98apachelogger: how do I swich to gnash?17:07
shadeslayerQuintasan: o/17:09
apacheloggerfor obvious reasons I do not use gnash17:09
macoshadeslayer: sfdec?17:10
macoshadeslayer: swfdec?17:10
* maco scowls at keyboard17:10
shadeslayermaco: uh what?17:10
maco<shadeslayer> bulldog98: there was something else too... some open source flash project,lightspark or something?   <-- swfdec was the gnash alternative17:10
shadeslayermaco: nah.. hold on ill search omgubuntu.co.uk for it :)17:10
shadeslayermaco: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/lightspark-open-source-flash-player.html17:11
macooh  very very ne17:12
apacheloggerkubotu: np17:13
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "A Dustland Fairytale" by The Killers [Day & Age, 2008] [http://open.spotify.com/track/6fy13gbhaaUopyvwrfQtmi] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more17:13
shadeslayermaco: lookie http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/make-grub-themes-beautiful-look-nicer.html17:16
shadeslayermaco: have you uploaded the package?17:21
macoshadeslayer: no i just dropped off the net17:22
macoshadeslayer: i downloaded the source package then my net dropped17:22
shadeslayermaco: oh no problem :)17:22
shadeslayeri was looking at the open bugs against qtcreator to be sure we cant close any with this package17:23
shadeslayers/any/any more17:23
macoyeah when i did the amarok merge for lucid i went through and closed all the ones thatd been fixed in karmic and then added about 20 bugs to the changelog in lucid17:24
shadeslayermaco: most of the bugs are reported against 9.1017:28
shadeslayer( Ubuntu version )17:28
macoyeah i got the context there ;-)17:28
macoshadeslayer: lintian gave a warning that i dont undersand17:43
macoW: qtcreator source: obsolete-relation-form-in-source in qtcreator depends: libqtcore4 (< 4:4.7.0)17:43
shadeslayermaco: thats there from the previous package17:44
macowait is it that Depends is lowercase?17:44
Quintasanapachelogger: Oo17:44
* shadeslayer thinks apachelogger must have found a pony17:44
* apachelogger can break couchdb 3 ways now \\o/17:44
Quintasanshadeslayer: no, it's just that he is listening to Justin Bieber17:45
QuintasanJontheEchidna: \o17:45
JontheEchidnao/    qDebug() << upgradeablePackages << "comin' at ya!";17:45
JontheEchidnathat was weird17:45
Quintasanoh man, I'd better do some grammar exercises instead of sitting on IRC17:46
* Quintasan is too lazy today17:46
macoQuintasan: how many kilos can your verbs bench now?17:47
shadeslayermaco: http://lintian.debian.org/tags/obsolete-relation-form-in-source.html17:47
Quintasanmaco: at least 9000 :P17:47
CIA-91[couchdb-qt] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615164727-71jl7rzvj27r0auf * lib/ (couchdb-qt.cpp couchdb-qt.h) impelment document deletion17:47
shadeslayermaco: i would leave it at that because debian has the same thing i think....17:47
shadeslayeri.e same control file...17:47
apacheloggerQuintasan: who what or when is justin bieber?17:48
Quintasanshadeslayer: You won't beat apachelogger's GSOC application sitting in KTorrent's code17:48
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: <3 that debug ine17:48
* apachelogger has done worse though :P17:48
apacheloggergood thig no one remembers17:48
macoshadeslayer: ok then ill ignore it17:48
shadeslayerQuintasan: :)17:48
* apachelogger was not always perfect one must know :P17:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: i thought you still arent perfect :P17:49
Quintasanshadeslayer: +117:49
CIA-91[akonadi-desktopcouch] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615164915-xeuj5b0n3l591pwp * (desktop-couch-resource.cpp desktop-couch-resource.h) Item deleting++17:49
* shadeslayer high fives Quintasan17:49
apacheloggersee, those that only know imperfection only see imperfection as they do not know what perfection looks like17:50
macoshadeslayer: ok uploading17:50
Quintasanhmm, let me get something sweet and I'm ready to go for that CAE crap tomorrow17:50
Quintasanapachelogger: yeah, make up excuses all you want :P17:50
* apachelogger is wondering how it still is that shadeslayer_ gets lost17:50
shadeslayerbah... all the input devices shut down.... 17:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: what did you do to my kernel17:51
shadeslayernow in stuck on #kubuntu-devel with no way to get to #ubuntu-packaging :P17:51
apacheloggertalk bad about the apachelogger and see your kernel suffer17:51
Quintasanmodprobe some_invisible_pink_unicorns17:51
Quintasanshadeslayer: ^17:51
apacheloggerkubotu: np17:51
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "In My Place" by Coldplay [A Rush Of Blood To The Head, 2006] [http://open.spotify.com/track/2nvC4i2aMo4CzRjRflysah] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more17:52
apacheloggerthat song is sort of horrible17:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: no such module on 2.6.35 kernel :P17:52
Quintasanshadeslayer: ask apachelogger for the module code17:52
QuintasanI bet he wrote something like this17:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: probably hidden in his ubuntuone-kde bzr branch :D17:53
* Quintasan grabs apachelogger's very hidden thumb drive17:53
Quintasanlet's see what we have here17:53
apacheloggerI do have a hidden one too? :O17:53
Quintasanapachelogger: well, now you don't17:54
shadeslayerok brb after reboot :)17:54
apacheloggernot much loss then17:54
apacheloggerpossibly only pictures of apachelogger nakkid17:54
apacheloggerkubotu: np17:56
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "The Chase" by Ben Foster & Murray Gold -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more17:56
apacheloggerthat entirely reminds me that I need to rewatch torchwood ^^17:56
CIA-91[couchdb-qt] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100615170010-vhb9r91ucc7k3204 * lib/couchdb-qt.h copyright++18:00
macoshadeslayer: ok it was accepted18:01
shadeslayermaco: awesome :D18:01
shadeslayerkubotu: order cookies for maco18:01
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to maco.18:01
macommm cookies18:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: what was the dpkg-genchanges command you used to compare versions?18:08
apacheloggerdpkg --compare-versions 1 lt 2; echo $?18:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: found a bug in dpkg man page : http://pastebin.com/6aRqYRex :P18:15
shadeslayerah nvm18:16
shadeslayerstupid me18:16
apacheloggerright :P18:16
apacheloggerRiddell: using U1 as an addressbook is working pretty well already :)18:17
apacheloggerkubotu: np18:20
kubotuapachelogger listened to "Kingdom & Glory" by Mando Diao 8 minutes ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/0sS4WjQThjIjlhaFoW30UL] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more18:20
apacheloggernow that song is really not 8 minutes long :/18:20
Riddellapachelogger: wow18:43
ScottK-droidWould someone please look at the armel qtcreator build log and see why it died. It just crashed the browser on my phone. 18:54
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apacheloggerRiddell: I'll also meet with krake next week or so and work out a plan for the bookmark syncing ... which is a bit more difficult than anticipated since akonadi is really just playing central sync master between local bookmarks file and the bookmarks in couchdb. From what we have talked to so far its gonna be a master piece of akonadi awesomeness though ^^18:55
RiddellScottK-droid: "Start in 1 hour "18:55
Riddellapachelogger: tomorrow I'll take a look and try it for myself18:56
ScottK-droidCrumbs. I wish whoever retried it hadn't done that so fast.18:56
RiddellScottK-droid: it only got uploaded 50 minutes ago18:57
ScottK-droidOh. I retried the previous one and it FTBFS. 18:58
apacheloggershadeslayer_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep ninja talk from you?18:58
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ScottK-droidMight be worth checking to see why.18:58
* ScottK-droid didn't know about the new one.18:59
apacheloggersteveire: do you want to do an IRC talk about grantlee or assorted matters of interest for upcoming ubuntu developer week https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek19:16
apacheloggerwould be between 12 and 16 jul19:17
steveireThat's after Akademy, right?19:17
steveireYeah I can probably do that.19:17
steveireThat's the last one. " Jan 25th 2010 to Jan 29th 2010!"19:18
steveireMakes sense.19:18
* steveire is a bit tired right now19:18
apacheloggersteveire: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep loads of slots to pick from :)19:19
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shadeslayer_apachelogger: yeah :) 19:40
JontheEchidnaQt's model/view stuff is nice until you need to start putting widgets into delegates :(19:40
* shadeslayer_ checks calendar19:40
apacheloggershadeslayer_: btw, I doubt you will find a motu that is better at mentoring that all of kubuntu ;)19:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: i want motu status as well after membership :)19:48
shadeslayerthen kubuntu dev status :P19:48
shadeslayerwhich probably will take a *long* time :)19:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh btw can you point me to the patch that helps mount drives without passing sudo passwords to dolphin? we might need to apply the same to the auto mount plasmoid ( or the  Device notifier plasmoid as its called )19:50
apacheloggershadeslayer_: every kubuntu-dev currently also happens to be motu... so... :P19:54
apacheloggershadeslayer_: I do not know of such a patch TBH19:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: hehe... kubuntu dev will probably take alot of time :P19:55
* apachelogger is wondering why we need a patch for that19:55
shadeslayerhmm.. im sure i heard of a patch to correct that,when you mount external partitions with dolphin,it asks for a password19:56
apacheloggerthat thing 20:04
* apachelogger notes that this patch is buggy anyway20:04
apacheloggershadeslayer_: it is in kde4libs most likely20:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: thanks ill look in bzr20:05
lex79apachelogger: I don't think it's buggy, I fixed at the end of lucid cycle and rgreening fixed in the beta120:13
shadeslayerlex79: can you point me to the patch? no kde4libs in bzr20:14
lex79no kde4libs in bzr but kdelibs :)20:14
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shadeslayerlex79: ah ok :)20:17
shadeslayerlex79: can we apply the same patch to the device mounter plasmoid? ( like something along the same lines ? )20:18
shadeslayernot the same patch obviously :P20:18
lex79if it works yes :)20:19
apacheloggerthe device notifier plasmoid _should_ use the patch20:24
apacheloggersince the patch affects solid, and the notifier should mount only via solid20:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: it doesnt,i still have to enter my password to mount the device20:24
shadeslayerso i guess the patch is a partial success :PO20:24
apacheloggerthat is what the patch does20:24
* lex79 thinks apachelogger is MOTM -> master of the minions20:26
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apacheloggerclaydoh: it is interesting how kubuntuforums uses odd times20:38
apacheloggerbrrr http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112458.020:41
apacheloggerlex79: amongst other things20:41
* apachelogger is also fluffymaster!20:41
lex79I know you're better than just a master of the minions ;)20:42
lex79for what I understood seems he wants build kubuntu from source, uhmmm20:46
apacheloggerlex79: most importantly he did not understand what he was reading, or he did not read careful enough -> bad thing20:54
apacheloggerAs an example, I'll use a program called gentoo, an X GTK+ file manager.[4]20:54
apacheloggerif it is not clear from that that the example is not about gentoo the linux distro then I really do not know what could be20:54
lex79eh right :)20:56
* shadeslayer compares https://edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+related-software and https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+related-software20:58
shadeslayerkubotu: googlefight shadeslayer apachlogger 20:59
kubotuapachlogger (0) vs. shadeslayer (0) -- no winner here!20:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: youve rigged the bot !20:59
Sime_Riddell: are there packages for the marble pythong bindings?20:59
bulldog98kubotu: googlefight shadeslayer Riddell20:59
kubotuRiddell (0) vs. shadeslayer (0) -- no winner here!20:59
shadeslayerhow weird :)21:00
shadeslayerkubotu: googlefight bulldog98 shadeslayer21:00
kubotushadeslayer (0) vs. bulldog98 (0) -- no winner here!21:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^21:00
bulldog98shadeslayer: hm21:00
bulldog98shouldn’t be the result21:01
shadeslayerbulldog98: my dad took for berlin about a hour ago :D21:01
shadeslayermaco: youre around some more right?21:03
shadeslayerwill be upgrading https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libforms121:04
macoshadeslayer: yeah21:04
shadeslayermaco: no.. its building as of now :)21:04
apacheloggergoogle changed around their search results21:07
apacheloggerI suppose rbot did not update the parser yet21:07
apacheloggergotta love html parsing21:07
* apachelogger pokes Xand3r21:12
apacheloggerXand3r: you need distraction I hear?21:13
apacheloggerXand3r: you certainly could distract yourself by doing things to my groupies page :P21:13
apacheloggerXand3r: also what are you distracting from?21:13
Xand3rapachelogger: i stoped smoking this morning at 11am21:14
apacheloggerXand3r: did you start again? :P21:15
Xand3rnot yet21:15
* apachelogger did not even know that Xand3r was a smoker21:15
* apachelogger knows that he made Sput one though21:16
Sputyeah :(21:17
Sputevil apachelogger21:17
Sputyou and markey!21:17
* apachelogger blames it all on markey21:17
* Sput blames about 73% on markey21:17
* apachelogger hugs markey though while he is at it21:18
apacheloggerXand3r: you go make me a nice branding :)21:19
apacheloggerXand3r: also I am quite confident that you will not start again21:19
* apachelogger feels all darth vader this evening21:27
apacheloggeranyone up for uno?21:28
apacheloggeruno anyone?21:28
Xand3rthe game uno?21:30
apacheloggerXand3r: but you go brand my groupies' page :P21:30
Xand3rhow to play uno vie the net?21:30
apacheloggerno uno for you, mister!21:30
apacheloggerXand3r: via tha b0t21:30
neversfeldeI win21:31
Xand3runo uno21:31
Xand3ri won21:31
apacheloggeryou know21:31
Xand3ri go now to bed21:35
Xand3rgood night girls21:35
shadeslayermaco: can you do a sync?21:36
shadeslayerhttp://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/libforms << libforms 21:36
shadeslayerhmm.. wait.. i need to check it first21:36
apacheloggerdid Xand3r just call us girls?21:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah :(21:37
* apachelogger giggles in girly manner and leaves for some tea21:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep what time slot do you want?21:54
shadeslayeroh sorry i have that opened in my browser and still didnt edit :P21:54
shadeslayerdoing now21:55
ari-tczewon fresh up-to-dated maverick my konversation IRC client missed notifications in tray :-(21:55
ari-tczewonly indicator-applet is useful21:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: what site do we use to fix date and time?21:56
apachelogger-sh ^^21:57
shadeslayerthere was this site we use to display xx.xx UTC in various time zones21:57
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)21:58
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases21:58
ubottuKubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings21:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^ shoudld be linked there21:58
apacheloggerof course not if someone removed it ^^21:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16&min=0&sec=021:59
apacheloggerah magic21:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: done :)22:01
apacheloggermaybe another title22:01
shadeslayerPackaging with the ninjas?22:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: packaging like a ninja?22:02
shadeslayerhmm... you decide :)22:02
apacheloggermakes it more about the possible attendee22:03
apacheloggerwhich is a good thing I suppose22:03
shadeslayerwell if you say so :)22:03
shadeslayerdamn you beat me to it :)22:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, you can change it later still22:03
* shadeslayer is all mangled up with libraries22:04
apachelogger"Library design in World without sudo" <- JontheEchidna 22:05
apacheloggerthis would be one scary talk22:05
shadeslayeri wonder what kde release would we be packaging at the time of talks.....22:06
shadeslayernone afaik....22:06
* apachelogger broke his akonadi calendar so does not know22:07
* shadeslayer gives some duct tape to apachelogger 22:08
* apachelogger is afraid akonadi might fall apart if he touches it ^^22:08
apacheloggerthough I had great fun with my ubuntuone resouce earlier22:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: kde releases RC2 on 7th July :P22:09
shadeslayerand final release on 28th xD22:09
shadeslayerwell.. final release is tagged on 28th22:10
apacheloggerRiddell: oh, one nice fact about the resource .... I plan to have a branding switch, so either one gets a desktop file calling it U1 or DesktopCouch22:10
shadeslayerheh... if i start removing stuff from *.install files in a debian package i get empty binaries :P22:13
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: haha... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-drop2ftp builds on 32 bit but fails on 64 bit :D22:14
=== DarkwingDuck_ is now known as DarkwingDuck
claydohapachelogger: watch ya mean by 'odd times' on kfn?22:40
apacheloggerclaydoh: I mena something usish :P22:42
apacheloggerwhile I set my location to something outside usish22:42
=== apachelogger is now known as fluffymaster
claydohdunno, I think that is set server-side so smfforfree probably controls that on their servers22:55
claydohahh nope found a setting in my personsl smf test site22:56
claydohfluffymaster: is there a timezone selector? if not I will tell the owner to add one22:59
claydohthere is an autodetect function in the look and layout area of the user profile23:02
shadeslayerfluffymaster: around?23:12
shadeslayerRiddell: MIR against linphone is going to be dirty....23:19
shadeslayerwe have 2 build deps in universe23:19
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/XzfLiHmr23:19
shadeslayerlibosip2-dev and libexosip2-dev ..... 23:20
shadeslayerfluffymaster: ^^23:20
fluffymasterclaydoh: well, I set my location, supposedly it should just follow that I suppose23:28
fluffymastershadeslayer: are they from different source packages?23:29
claydohfluffymaster: I did find a mod that adds an actual selector, which would be easier23:29
fluffymasterthe thing is, I would just expect it to work :P23:30
=== amichairo is now known as amichair
* claydoh is beginning to think smf 1.x is a bit clunky and not modern23:31
claydohyou have to set the offset from the *server* location, which is stupid, else click the autodetect link next to the offset setting23:32
claydoh*my* time is correct :)23:32
claydohbut my offset is +1, which would logically place me somewhere in europe23:32
claydoharggg the new online training software "requires ie" :(23:36
claydohplus it is a stupid, more stoopid than forum software23:36
shadeslayerfluffymaster: yes23:38
shadeslayerfluffymaster: uh wait..23:38
shadeslayerfluffymaster: yes confirmed...23:39
shadeslayerSource: libexosip2 and Source: libosip223:39

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