[00:07] my friends, hope to see you back in a week [00:07] gonna try to enjoy a full week without you all :D [00:07] * Daekdroom doubts it [00:08] :( [00:08] !daily [00:08] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [00:12] is there an option in the installer for btrfs ? [00:13] Volkodav, I didn't see one; there probably isn't yet, I don't think btrfs has been declared stable just yet [00:14] hmm - I though someone already has it installed - I was wondering if it is an option yet ? [00:15] You can *use* btrfs, but you'll have to set it up after installation (unless that has changed since the Alpha 1 media was mastered). [00:15] you mean a conversion ? [00:15] Is there an app for trying to recover files from a USB thumb flash drive? [00:15] mxe5, depending on what the problem is, I'd try using foremost [00:16] there is also a grub2 compatibility issue as well [00:16] Volkodav, yes, you can convert ext3 or you can take a tar backup and restore. I wouldn't use it for /boot. [00:16] you mean /root [00:16] Volkodav, you could just use ext2 for /boot (mounted sync) and use btrfs for / and the rest of the other filesystems [00:16] and have separate /boot [00:16] Volkodav, No, I meant /boot. the root fs can be btrfs, but /boot has to be accessible by the bootloader. [00:17] right - so grub2 can not boot btrfs yet I guess [00:17] I'll spin live CD see what's up .... [00:17] I also wouldn't use btrfs to house data that you rely on not disappearing. I very nearly lost 300GB of data to it not that long ago just by using a multi-device setup with subvolumes. [00:18] Volkodav, I don't recall hearing about GRUB2 learning about btrfs yet, no. But that's fine; I usually use ext2 for /boot anyway [00:18] of course not - I have my storage on differenrt drives [00:18] Volkodav: INPROGRESS: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-m-btrfs-support [00:18] mbt: Well it's a tough go right now, because it's not showing up on the desktop also went to Places/Computer and not showing in there as well. [00:18] mxe5: photorec [00:19] mbt: It's Toshiba 4GB thumb drive. [00:19] I want to see how snapshots and all other bells are working so far - at least on a testing machine [00:20] Volkodav, I'd just install it with a 10 GB /, then, and create a btrfs filesystem on its own partition after you have the system installed [00:20] mxe5: part of "testdisk" (which also does partition table recovery [00:20] Say for /home or something. [00:20] arand: Is that similar to one of the windows file recovery apps? [00:20] mxe5: No [00:20] Likely not, at least. Since it's ncurses [00:20] mbt: that's an option [00:21] arand: So is photorec an app? [00:21] I may as well through all the system on it [00:21] mxe5, what is the damage? Did the filesystem get overwritten or corrupted, or it is an unusual filesystem? What's the output of "file -sL /dev/sdX" for the device? [00:21] Fedora dabbles in btrfs already if that is an option.. [00:21] same as suse I heard [00:21] mxe5: A command-line (ncurses menu-based) application, yes [00:22] Also seems that the btrfs wiki is not really giving an up-to-date picture of the status of the fs or tools [00:22] mbt: I get nothing when I plug it into any open USB on my computer - I get no errors at all - linux does not even come up that a USB thumb drive has been plugged in. [00:23] mxe5, dmesg doesn't show a new device? [00:23] mbt: No\ [00:23] mxe5, If that's the case, no recovery utility is going to do anything for it. It will likely need physical repair. [00:24] mbt, how do you know the wiki is not up to date? [00:24] bjsnider, most current info is for 2.6.32. [00:25] And at that time, they weren't recommending it for general usage, so unless there's newer information somewhere that I don't know about... which is entirely possible. [00:25] mbt: I ran dmesg at terminal and got several lines of return - but not sure what to look for or at. [00:26] mxe5, when you plug in a new usb mass storage device, you will see a few lines of output at the end that show that it found it, what device node (sdb, sdc, etc.) it got, its size in sectors, gigabytes and gibibytes, and so forth. [00:27] mxe5, kinda like this, but with information for your specific device: dhttp://pastebin.com/mu5pErWj [00:27] mxe5, err, http://pastebin.com/mu5pErWj [00:35] mbt: Sorry I was reading through the dmesg output trying to find something - I'll have to come back to this later - Have to go do something for the better-half - Honey-doo stuff ya know ... [00:35] mbt: Thanks [09:08] I can't make a live USB for Kubuntu 10.10 neither with Startup Disk Creator which boots to Ubuntu with the Kubuntu image, nor with unetbootin? [09:08] Any help? [09:17] Daijoubu: What happens when you try? [09:18] With Startup Disk Creator it boots to a menu with 2 choices [09:18] to install ubuntu or to try ubuntu, when i select try ubuntu it boots to Ubuntu with Gnome [09:19] the unetbootin try just goes to boot from the USB, no menu is shown and it reboots, and then reboots again, and again [09:19] Daijoubu: I don' [09:19] Daijoubu: ... I don't see what's wrong with it booting with Gnome. [09:20] well i'm using the "Kubuntu" image [09:20] not the "Ubuntu" image [09:20] shoudln't it boot to KDE?! [09:35] Jordan_U will it install with KDE if i chose to install it and not try it from the USB ? [09:55] well the Kubuntu daily build fixed the problem :) [09:55] i have 31 blocked Updates, is this a bug? [09:56] no [09:57] it's normal during development [09:57] kklimonda, should i do anything about it or just leave it be? [09:58] gosh kde 4.5 is great :) too bad that gnome will become that terrible shell thing hehe [09:59] Daijoubu: bah, there is no single answer as many things may result in packages being blocked. If you have no idea how to investigate it I'd leave it for now. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:06] Xorg seems to have been fixed. FOR ME! [12:07] any op online? [12:07] om26er: I am not op in here bu maybe I can help [12:08] IdleOne, I want someone kicked in #ubuntu ;) [12:08] or banned [12:08] om26er: #ubuntu-ops please [12:08] na I'll find someone here [12:09] om26er: #ubuntu-ops is the proper place to discuss this [12:09] I am op in #ubuntu so I should be able to help [12:09] or you can msg me [12:22] waitng for the xorg fix [12:27] DrHalan: I did an upgrade this morning 30+ xorg packages installed without problems. FOR ME [12:27] ymmv [12:29] not for me it even wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-all [12:30] ls [12:30] . . . [12:30] DrHalan: in that case, hold off [12:31] odd, I have all X updates installed since quite a while, nvidia and virtualbox were holding them back for a while [12:35] yeha i have nvidia here.. [12:35] on virtualbox it worked some days ago [12:35] nvidia-current isN't updated anyways afaik [12:37] not yet, x-updates has 256.29 which works fine here [12:37] whats x-updates? [12:38] ppa [12:38] nice.. so i just wait until its merged to maveric [12:38] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ [12:39] yofel: if i full-upgrade it doesn't remove nvidea-current anymore [12:39] oh? then someone rebuilt the package maybe [12:39] upgrades dkms and all the xserver packages and nvidia-current too [12:39] upgrading now [12:39] will let you know if it works :) [12:40] ill just wait.. [12:43] Get:72 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main xserver-xorg 1:7.5+6ubuntu1 [20.3kB] [12:43] hmm [12:43] Ian_corne: Don't you have your own mirror? [12:43] yes [12:44] I changed it to this when I needed something that wasn't pushed yet [12:44] will change back [12:44] :) [12:44] I have that too, and xserver-xorg-core 2:1.8.1.901-1ubuntu1 [13:02] Ha [13:02] all my applets don't like 1.8 [13:02] except musicplayer and timer [13:03] ok, they just crashed it seems [13:03] if i kill the panels and they reload, they're back [13:17] hej folks, does anyone know by chance, what to do, to get a new ubuntu mailing list created? i have started a ticket on rt.ubuntu.com month ago and nothing happened up to now.. [14:09] and there goes X - again... [14:09] ^G###!!! ABORT: X_CloseDevice: XI_BadDevice (invalid Device parameter); 8 requests ago: file nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 182 [14:13] Help! :) Installed Kubuntu from daily build, updated, installed Nvidia current drivers, after reboot it shows the Kubuntu loading screen and it stays there, the keyboard is working and i can restart with ctrl-alt-del [14:13] Daijoubu: how did you install them? [14:13] with hardware drivers [14:14] hm... [14:15] I had something like that in lucid when mountall hung up on an NFS mount, but that's fixed by now [14:15] can you get to a terminal somehow? [14:15] yofel with ctrl-alt-F1 F2 and so on ? [14:15] yes [14:15] that's not working :/ [14:16] the screen just flashes with ctrl-alt-F1 and F2 for F3-4-5-6 nothing happens [14:16] and it returns to the Kubuntu loading image [14:17] hm... maybe try sysrq+k to kill plymouth, or maybe sysrq+e (SIGTERM) or sysrq+i (SIGKILL) and see if you get something [14:17] ok one sec [14:20] nope nothing [14:20] tranegly enough i typed "o-o" and enter and it shat down lol [14:20] *strange [14:21] phh terriblwe stuff :/ [14:21] hm, does something happen if you press S or M when it hangs? [14:21] one sec.. [14:21] and is plymouth frozen or is the animation still running? [14:22] nope [14:22] it's frozen [14:22] but when i do ctrl+alt+del thje animation unfreezes [14:23] and what happens with sysrq+k? [14:23] when it's frozen all dots are gray, after ctrl alt del, all dots go white and one becomes gray [14:23] yofel just to make sure the sysrq thing is the "windows" key on the kieyboard right? [14:23] er... no [14:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [14:24] sysrq+k is 'alt+print+k' here [14:24] yofel ok then i mislead you that nothing happens with it one sec [14:24] or prtscr or whatever druck is on an english keyboard [14:27] yofel sysrq+k nothing sysrq+e nothing alt-sysrq+k ntohing alt-sysrq+e nothing alt-sysrq+o = shutdown [14:28] yeah, o is shutdown [14:29] so i'm doomed? [14:29] hm, then I'm slowly running out of ideas, maybe add 'init=/bin/bash' to the grub kernel line and see if you get a terminal [14:30] ok i guess this is the guru section of possible things to do haha [14:30] that will skip upstart and should give you a terminal without any running services [14:30] how do i add that line?! [14:30] Daijoubu: in grub, press 'e' (I think) to edit the boot options, and append 'init=/bin/bash' on the kernel line [14:30] oh wait [14:31] maybe first try to remove quiet splash there [14:31] that should at least remove the boot animation [14:31] umm how? [14:31] is there a key like in windows where if i hold it it will propose to start ubuntu in vesa or so on? [14:32] like I said, go to the grub menu, select the kernel that you want to boot, press e and edit the line that starts with 'kernel' [14:32] i don't know how to go to the grub menu :( i'm noob [14:32] after that use ctrl+x to boot I think, it should say so in the editor [14:33] er... hold left shift pressed on boot I think [14:33] !grub2 [14:33] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [14:33] ok one sec [14:33] actually see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [14:34] especially https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command%20Line%20and%20Rescue%20Mode [14:35] well holding shift didnt bring me to a menu [14:36] it shows some text of things loaded and it end at Pulse Audio and the * in fron ot it is orange [14:36] o.O [14:36] and i can't type anything [14:37] *front of it is orange [14:38] app armor profiles, kernels common printing system are shown ans [ok] [14:39] then comes pulse audio and it has orange star and theres no [ok] next to it [14:39] is pulse audio yet again making my day miserable? :D [14:39] well, that seems to come from the sysvinit services, so the boot hangs somewhere at the end [14:39] heh [14:39] hello to all, does anyone lnows how if there is a update to resolve the bug in xubuntu10.04 related to intel 855 graphic cards [14:40] so in other words i have to reinstall? [14:40] bardo_: *which* bug? [14:40] bardo_: and do you mean recent update or compared to lucid? [14:41] xubuntu frezes in startup and dosent boot without the option i915.modeset=1. recent update [14:41] sorry xubuntu 10.0 [14:41] 10.04 [14:41] Daijoubu: not sure, maybe use a live disk, chroot and try to disable things until it boots (that's what I would try) [14:41] but reinstalling might be faster [14:42] bardo_: this channel is for maverick meerkat 10.10 support, for lucid please ask in #ubuntu [14:42] had to chroot and change grub so to put the option i915.modeset=1. but if i try to play a movie the laptop crashes [14:42] yofel, the thing is that my live usb kubuntu is damaged as well, no idea how that happened, it crashes on the keyboard setup if i try to install it, and if i select to Try it, it brings me to a logins creen, i have no idea what the default login user and pass is [14:43] default login user and pass should be ubuntu/ubuntu iirc [14:43] thanks yofel [14:44] ok [14:44] I could be wrong, it's been a while since I had to use them [14:44] bardo_: if you have a question about a specific bug number askin in #ubuntu-bugs is an option too [14:45] thanks, will try. [14:53] it's hopeles :/ now it crashes on the live USB loading screen as well, neather Try or Install works, i tried the check for errors option and it didn't find any errors, i'm curious how these errors evolve though [14:54] oh well, back to LTS version then :) [14:54] yofel will the LTS version update it's kernel when Maverik comes out? [14:56] no idea, there was some talk about backporting kernels, but haven't heard much of that since quite a while ago [14:57] yofel can i update from LTS to Maverik? [14:57] sure [14:57] ok then thanks for helping :) [14:57] you might have to tell update-manager to look for non-lts upgrades though [14:57] should be somewhere in software properties [14:58] i was wondering why it didn't find anything with -d thanks [14:59] Hmm I get "bzz bzzz bzzz" in my audio :p [14:59] and it's no vuvuzela [16:45] hi any idea how i can install the examples for qtcreator? [16:49] shadeslayer: Try installing qt4-demos [16:49] James147: tried that [16:49] still doesnt pick it up... maybe i need to fix that package as well in universe :P [16:50] James147: btw can you get qtcreator to work on maverick? [16:51] shadeslayer: havent tryed maverick yet, will probally install it on my laptop later today... will try it then [16:52] James147: ah ok,because beta 1 doesnt work on maverick,im going to file a request to upload RC from my ppa today :) [18:29] "Ubuntu is ready to play music from the web, from CDs and DVDs." [18:29] Wait, if it's from the web, how are you playing it from CDs? [18:29] It needs another "and" there. [18:30] quite literally, it currently says: playing music from the web from CDs. [18:32] two and:s also turns out wrong.. [18:32] No. [18:32] Where? [18:32] "Ubuntu is ready to play music from the web, and from CDs and DVDs." [18:33] i think he meant where are you seeing this [18:33] Ah. [18:33] This is in the installer (though in Lucid). [18:33] The slideshow. [18:33] * gnomefreak not here [18:33] i would say file a bug maybe one of the installer devs will fix it [18:51] DanaG, no, it doesnt need another and. CDs and DVDs are different things [19:19] devilsadvocate: try reading that sentence again. [19:20] "Ubuntu is ready to play from the web, from CDs and DVDs. [19:20] Broken parallelism. [19:21] i'd suggest an extra 'from' before DVDs rather than another and [19:21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallelism_%28grammar%29 [19:24] ah [19:24] yeah, and from dvds [19:24] tha tworks. [19:40] will maverick ship with gtk3? [19:43] om26er: not sure but there should be a blueprint if it is planned [19:43] om26er: no [19:44] * om26er thought a release after LTS was to shake things up ;) [19:45] om26er: it is but we still have to be stable. i would have thought gtk3 would go hand in hand with gnome3 [19:46] gtk3 and gnome3 only planned for N [19:46] well , gtk3 atleast , gnome3 ?? ;p [19:47] gnome3 is planned IIRC for 10.10 [19:47] for gnome 2.31.4 they will ship with gtk3 [19:47] that is gnome3 [19:47] or 2.90xx [19:47] i dont recall the linkws i saw it on but it was gnome official links and its due in sept. [19:48] 2.31 [19:48] gtk series is 2.90 [19:52] http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirtyone/ [19:52] and no gtk3 will not make it in Maverick [19:53] 2.31.91 == 3.0 [19:53] sorry .92 [19:55] ok back to working on this .xpi [20:10] http://identi.ca/notice/36376507 orly? [20:12] vish, who says? [20:12] hi i have a problem with wmv: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/960/kpernykpakvntbvmnyeknek.png [20:13] any hints where to get the codec? [20:15] dorsy: medibuntu.org [20:15] are there maverick repos? [20:15] i don't know [20:16] okay i ask different [20:16] what codec this video uses? mmsh://streamer2.carnation.hu/mtvod2/hirado/2010/06/15/hirado19_100615.wmv [20:17] bjsnider: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-June/msg00183.html [20:18] dORSY: yes there are [20:19] gnomefreak, apt line? [20:19] dORSY: its on thier site [20:19] http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list is 404 [20:20] dORSY: one sec [20:21] dORSY: http://paste.ubuntu.com/450236/ these work for me here [20:21] going backt o this damn thing [20:22] thx [20:23] we will see... [20:25] i cant find their pgp key -.- [20:25] gpg* [20:27] vish, that message is inconclusive [20:29] dORSY: take the last 8 digits and do it that way or go to ssoftware sources in the gnome menu [20:29] dORSY: give me the last 8 and i will give you the command [20:30] gnomefreak, 8 digits of what? [20:30] dORSY: in the gpg error you have. there are letters and numbers of the gpg i need last 8 [20:31] anyway i got one from google [20:31] thanks [20:31] they also have a way to add repos and keys in one command on thier website [20:31] does not work [20:31] * gnomefreak wrote a script for all my gpg keys [20:31] i said it generates 404 [20:32] http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list [20:32] dORSY: one minute [20:33] dORSY: you can also ask in #medibuntu [20:33] that channel is handy [20:33] thanks [20:36] dORSY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repository [20:36] * gnomefreak not sure where you were going and why [20:36] lsb_release -cs [20:36] maverick [20:37] there is no maverick list on the site [20:37] dORSY: add the repos i gave you or use the command found on that page [20:37] try yourself [20:37] gnomefreak@development:~$ lsb_release -cs [20:37] maverick [20:38] http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list [20:38] lsb_release has nothing to do with medibuntu. its only sys info [20:38] gnomefreak, [20:38] dORSY: not sure where you got that from [20:38] http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list [20:39] why are you in sources.list.d [20:39] part of [20:39] sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update [20:39] part of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repository [20:39] got it? [20:40] dORSY: did you try replacing $(lsb_release -cs) with maverick [20:40] no [20:40] dORSY: that is what it is telling you [20:40] it replaces itself [20:40] and if i do [20:40] http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/maverick.list [20:40] still gives 404 [20:41] dORSY: add the repos i gave you or ask in #medibuntu why it is 404 [20:41] i did [20:44] * gnomefreak out [20:59] bjsnider: rest assured , gtk3 aint landing for Maverick ;) [20:59] well that's certainly your view [20:59] bjsnider: no, not mine' [21:00] we will take empathy later on if they clarify they will not require gtk3 [21:00] bjsnider: ^ [21:00] what does medibuntu provide at this point i wonder [21:01] nothing, im still stuck with this video :D [21:01] however i installed the lucid w64codec [21:02] that package isn't necessary [21:02] mplayer gets its codecs from ffmpeg now [21:02] i dont know what package would be that [21:03] exaclty what codec decodes wmv [21:03] mplayer's codecs come from libavcodec [21:03] what file are you trying to play? [21:04] sec [21:05] http://streamer.carnation.hu/mtvod2/hirado/2010/06/15/hirado19_100615.wmv === dORSY is now known as dorsy [21:23] dorsy, that file is tiny [21:36] dorsy, my system is able to play what's there without the w64codecs file, because i have the libavcodec-extra package installed [22:10] * funkyHat ponders downgrading X [22:25] will Maverick have Gnome 3.0 available for testing ?