| playya_ | how much space is required to bootstrap ubuntu-minimal on ARM? | 00:20 |
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| EthanZ6174 | how can i get a arm-ubuntu source list? | 07:17 |
| EthanZ6174 | i got so many 404 when i use the kind of normal ones.. | 07:17 |
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| hrw | morning | 08:21 |
| cooloney | amitk: around? | 08:36 |
| amitk | cooloney: yes | 08:36 |
| cooloney | amitk: i am looking at the OTG config issue you pointed out yesterday | 08:36 |
| cooloney | from the git log, i think you revert the patch which enabling the OTG in the kernel | 08:37 |
| cooloney | so why you revert that? | 08:37 |
| cooloney | OTG driver doesn't work at all? | 08:37 |
| amitk | cooloney: that config was causing OOPs, IIRC. So we need to see if some more patches are necessary | 08:39 |
| cooloney | amitk: yeah, i guess so. so firstly we enable the OTG as the omap3 beagle board defconfig | 08:40 |
| cooloney | and test and file another bug? | 08:40 |
| cooloney | i think OTG should be built-in | 08:40 |
| cooloney | oh, maybe the dmesg.txt from ogra_cmpc in the LP is from a kernel which built-in OTG stuff | 08:41 |
| amitk | cooloney: if possible OTG should be a module so we can switch between different gadget drivers - audio, ethernet, gadgetfs, mass storage, etc. | 08:51 |
| amitk | cooloney: actually, only the USB Gadget drivers need to be modular, the HW-specific driver can be compiled in | 08:52 |
| amitk | cooloney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/449992/ is the diff for that should enable OTG | 08:53 |
| amitk | s/for// | 08:53 |
| cooloney | amitk: i agree, gadget upper level drivers should be modulars, and TI OTG controller driver should be built-in | 08:56 |
| cooloney | amitk: after a study of the oops from the dmesg, i think we missed to built-in the OTG transceiver driver as well as OMAP OTG driver | 08:57 |
| cooloney | amitk: let me try to build in them and post a kernel for testing | 08:57 |
| lag | Good morning every-peeps | 09:01 |
| amitk | morning lag | 09:03 |
| lag | Hey amitk | 09:03 |
| cooloney | lag and amitk morning. -:) | 09:08 |
| lag | Morning cooloney, I'm just replying to your emails | 09:09 |
| lag | cooloney: How far have you progressed with the Maverick - Panda kernel? | 09:13 |
| cooloney | lag: I added some panda supported yesterday, and sebjan will review that. if that's ok, i will send out for review and pull | 09:15 |
| cooloney | lag: for the bug #592295 | 09:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 592295 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu) "omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST_DIGIT (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592295 | 09:15 |
| cooloney | lag: is on .33 or .34? | 09:16 |
| cooloney | and i think you may have some solution now | 09:16 |
| lag | cooloney: 2.6.34-900-omap4 | 09:17 |
| lag | If you send me a .33 kernel, I can see if the problem is a lasting one | 09:18 |
| lag | cooloney: I have seen your solution, but I think I have a neater one | 09:18 |
| cooloney | lag: ok, got it, but in the LP post, you said it is 2.6.33-900-omap4 | 09:19 |
| cooloney | lag: ok, cool, i don't have the hardware. hehe | 09:19 |
| lag | In which case, I have tested it on both | 09:21 |
| lag | So it is .33 and .34 | 09:21 |
| lag | cooloney: Have you read your emails? | 09:22 |
| cooloney | lag: oh, just got it. | 09:23 |
| lag | ;) | 09:24 |
| cooloney | for the .34 repo, git://kernel.ubuntu.com/roc/ubuntu-maverick.git ti-ubuntu-2.6.34 | 09:24 |
| cooloney | i think sebjan will do his work based on this branch | 09:24 |
| lag | Does that boot? | 09:25 |
| cooloney | hmmm, i think you told me it boots from you panda | 09:25 |
| cooloney | hehe | 09:26 |
| lag | If it's the same one you sent me yesterday it does | 09:26 |
| cooloney | and after sebjan fixed his kernel cmdline, he boots that kernel on his panda too | 09:26 |
| lag | However, I tried to build it and it didn't boot | 09:26 |
| cooloney | lag: yeah, it is the same | 09:26 |
| cooloney | lag: really? | 09:26 |
| lag | Yeah, really | 09:26 |
| cooloney | you built from the same tree, but does not boot? | 09:26 |
| cooloney | oh, maybe you are trying the my old base | 09:27 |
| cooloney | so which commit SHA is your base in you building tree | 09:27 |
| lag | It's the one on kernel.ubuntu.com | 09:27 |
| lag | Wait one | 09:27 |
| cooloney | np | 09:27 |
| lag | ea34fca089b7ab2986ff391f1fc036d4425e6995 | 09:28 |
| cooloney | oh, sorry, that is not including the panda support | 09:29 |
| cooloney | pls just git fetch | 09:29 |
| cooloney | and rebuild, | 09:29 |
| lag | That was the latest when you went offline last night | 09:30 |
| lag | :( | 09:30 |
| lag | I thought it was something I was doing wrong! | 09:30 |
| cooloney | lag: oh, sorry, hold on, | 09:30 |
| cooloney | could you post your git log --oneline? | 09:30 |
| lag | I've just fetched | 09:31 |
| cooloney | ok, | 09:32 |
| cooloney | that should be the same as my kernel source, i think | 09:32 |
| cooloney | you are using sbuild or just crosscompile | 09:33 |
| lag | cooloney: It's still at ea34fca089b7ab2986ff391f1fc036d4425e6995 UBUNTU: SAUCE: fix changelog for our target release - maverick | 09:41 |
| lag | Even after a fetch | 09:41 |
| cooloney | lag: yeah, i think you got the same kernel source as me | 09:48 |
| lag | And that should work? | 09:48 |
| cooloney | yeah, i built the kernel package from that. | 09:48 |
| cooloney | and uploaded to you and sebjan | 09:48 |
| cooloney | so is there any error message when you was booting your own built kernel? | 09:49 |
| lag | Nope, I just don't receive any output | 09:49 |
| cooloney | lag: hmmm, too bad, no idea about that. you changed the kernel cmdline or something? | 09:52 |
| lag | Nope, I'm using the same one | 09:53 |
| lag | When I do a diff on or images, they 'differ' | 09:53 |
| lag | Is ea34fca089b7ab2986ff391f1fc036d4425e6995 your final commit? | 09:53 |
| cooloney | yeah, i didn't change anything since that | 09:55 |
| cooloney | lag: you are using sbuild or just cross compiling? | 09:57 |
| lag | I'm just using schroot | 09:59 |
| lag | I'm using the build scripts | 09:59 |
| cooloney | lag: the kernel i uploaded yesterday is cross compiled | 10:05 |
| lag | Okay | 10:07 |
| lag | Let me try it again | 10:07 |
| cooloney | ogra_cmpc and amitk, i updated bug #566645 | 11:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 566645 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "OTG configuration is broken on omap kernel (affects: 2) (heat: 70)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566645 | 11:36 |
| hrw | http://people.canonical.com/~hrw/ubuntu-maverick-armel-cross-compilers/ | 11:38 |
| zumbi | hrw: congrats! can you try powerpc or mips/el? | 11:43 |
| hrw | zumbi: thats dpkg-cross way | 11:44 |
| zumbi | hrw: yes, but binary-*-cross.mk merged into binary-*.mk? | 11:44 |
| hrw | zumbi: no, this is still on a list | 11:45 |
| zumbi | oh! ok, also biarch cross compilers were broken for multilib and non-multilib builds, on lenny used to work fine | 11:46 |
| zumbi | anyway, well done :) | 11:47 |
| hrw | zumbi: gcc-4.5 cross work resulted in a set of fixes | 11:47 |
| zumbi | in a couple weeks I hope to have some time available to help out | 11:47 |
| hrw | zumbi: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-cross-compilers has them linked | 11:47 |
| zumbi | i remember you showing me a patch | 11:48 |
| JameswStubbs | Hello, anyone here who can give some advice? | 11:56 |
| lool | zumbi: We dont have mips/mipsel in Ubuntu and powerpc in not in the main priorities of Linaro, it's more a Debian thing, but that should just work -- problem is that the patches aren't in the Debian toolchain yet | 11:56 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: don't ask to ask ;-) | 11:58 |
| hrw | lool: those patches are also not in ubuntu toolchain yet | 11:58 |
| lool | hrw: Ok, did you apply any to build http://people.canonical.com/~hrw/ubuntu-maverick-armel-cross-compilers/ ? | 11:59 |
| JameswStubbs | Ok then, basically I've built a Ubuntu minimal rootfs using rootstock and have it mounted in qemu with networking, I'm trying to install matchbox. I've installed xorg, and all the matchbox applications but I need GTK, Is there a way to do this without installing the full gnome enviroment? | 12:00 |
| hrw | lool: 594534, 590696 were needed | 12:00 |
| hrw | I have a build with also 593281 applied to get libgcc1-dbg | 12:01 |
| hrw | libgcc1-dbg-armel-cross_4.5.0-5ubuntu1.lool1_all.deb | 12:02 |
| JameswStubbs | Bump (Sorry for bumping) | 12:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | JameswStubbs, um, then don't bump? | 12:06 |
| cwillu_at_work | this isn't ubuntuforums | 12:06 |
| lool | lool1 that's me! | 12:06 |
| lool | hrw: ~hrw1 please :-) | 12:06 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: in theory you should just be able to apt-get install that | 12:07 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: does it pull more than it should? | 12:07 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: what specifically is pulled which shouldnt be? | 12:07 |
| JameswStubbs | apt-get install what? | 12:07 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: matchbox | 12:07 |
| JameswStubbs | matchbox pulls everything it needs | 12:07 |
| JameswStubbs | But it depends on GTK which is gnome's toolkit I think | 12:07 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: You need Gtk+ for what, a custom application? | 12:07 |
| JameswStubbs | Matchbox-session needs gtk | 12:08 |
| zumbi | lool: then maybe sparc? -- I just wonder if biarch cross compilers are fixed. I saw you having some mails with doko about it, but he was wanting to fix it in the right way, while you wanted a quick hack for linaro | 12:08 |
| cwillu_at_work | not seeing the problem | 12:08 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: Gtk+ is the toolkit used in GNOME, but it's not the full GNOME environment | 12:08 |
| cwillu_at_work | gtk isn't all of gnome | 12:08 |
| lool | zumbi: This is incorrect | 12:08 |
| JameswStubbs | So what do I need to enter into apt-get to get gtk? | 12:08 |
| JameswStubbs | apt-get install gtk?? | 12:08 |
| lool | zumbi: Linaro is investing time in fixing it the right way, hrw is working on that, but it will take a while so I've asked him to produce intermediate builds the "old" way (regular Emdebian way) in the mean time | 12:09 |
| lool | zumbi: there is no additional hack than the existing Emdebian binary-cross stuff | 12:09 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: the matchbox-session package should depend on the libgtk package | 12:09 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: So this should just all work | 12:10 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: I fail to understand your actual problem :-( | 12:10 |
| hrw | lool: patch was yours | 12:10 |
| hrw | lool: and I do not provide them outside of my hdd | 12:10 |
| lool | hrw: You mean the build fixes? | 12:10 |
| zumbi | lool: sure, but Emdebian way only works for armel (also sh4) but the rest of arches were broken | 12:10 |
| JameswStubbs | I'd copy and paste it all but it's within 2 vm's :) , When I enter matchbox-session from the prompt, it says something like gtk: couldnt open | 12:10 |
| lool | hrw: These are not additional hacks though, they just fix bugs in the current approach, do you agree? | 12:10 |
| zumbi | lool: i agree | 12:11 |
| hrw | lool: they are fixes, yes | 12:11 |
| lool | zumbi: We didn't look into that, we don't have people blocking on cross-compilers for the arches you mention | 12:11 |
| lool | zumbi: I would hope that everything will work once hrw is done, but we don't need to produce daily cross-compilers for sparc or powerpc in Linaro right now | 12:11 |
| lool | zumbi: We do need to hand out some armel cross-compilers while hrw continue on the quest to clean cross-compilers builds | 12:12 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: Ok, you need to be more specific though | 12:12 |
| JameswStubbs | Ok I'll try | 12:12 |
| zumbi | lool: while I understand you focus on armel (which is primary) I'll try to work on the rest of arches (at least test builds) | 12:13 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: (IIUC, you installed only Ubuntu packages in your rootfs, but you see some error messages with gtk, can only comment if we know what the error is) | 12:13 |
| lool | zumbi: As I said, I expect the *final* solution to work on other arches | 12:13 |
| zumbi | `buildcross` could easily be used to test all cross compiler arches | 12:13 |
| lool | zumbi: But I asked hrw to provide hand-built packages *right now* because we need them, we don't need them for other arches than armel | 12:13 |
| zumbi | lool: i got it. thanks :) | 12:13 |
| lool | Ok :-) | 12:14 |
| JameswStubbs | I've made a rootfs using rootstock. I've then opened it in qemu. I then installed xorg. I then installed matchbox. Now when I enter matchbox-session is returns: (matchbox-desktop:434) : Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: | 12:14 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: Do you run matchbox-session from within Xorg? | 12:15 |
| JameswStubbs | Should I enter startx | 12:15 |
| JameswStubbs | Then when I get the x shell then enter matchbox-session? | 12:15 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: matchbox-session should be started from within a Xorg context, otherwise it doens't know which Xorg DISPLAY to connect to or which credential (XAUTHORITY) to use | 12:15 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: I'm not sure what the proper way is to start matchbox-session on boot or to start Xorg + matchbox-session, perhaps startx will do the trick, perhaps you need to setup more things | 12:16 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: One way to quickly test matchbox-session is to start Xorg with a xterm and then run matchbox-session from there, but that's certainly not what you would want in the end I guess | 12:16 |
| JameswStubbs | I think I need to add match-box session to xinitrc | 12:16 |
| lool | Yes, it is indeed possible you have to do that | 12:17 |
| JameswStubbs | Hm, All I'm getting after adding matchbox-session to xinitrc is a blackscreen and a mouse, which I can't move. | 12:28 |
| JameswStubbs | Any ideas lool? | 12:31 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: Check the xinit man page, and/or read through /etc/X11/Xsession.d/* scripts and /etc/X11/Xsession | 12:57 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: I don't have a recipe for you, as I didn't do this myself, but it should be easy to look into what the shell scripts are doing | 12:57 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: I think one important thing is to have .xinitrc +x or something like that | 12:57 |
| lool | and you need a shebang too if you do this obvisouly | 12:57 |
| JameswStubbs | shebang? !#? | 12:58 |
| lool | #!/bin/sh | 12:58 |
| lool | JameswStubbs: I checked and if you look at startx, it will pass xinitrd to xinit which expects to be passed a client program | 13:00 |
| lool | So if you pass it a text file, it wont work | 13:00 |
| asac | ogra_cmpc: where is rcn? isnt he usually hanging out here? | 13:47 |
| lool | asac: 16:10 < cwillu_at_work> okay, that's a week since rcn was last on, anybody want to come with me on a rescue mission? :p | 13:48 |
| lool | asac: 17:09 * cwillu_at_work found rcn | 13:49 |
| cwillu_at_work | asac, he should be back today | 13:49 |
| cwillu_at_work | took an unannounced vacation | 13:49 |
| asac | ah ... one of the weak ones ;) | 13:50 |
| armin76 | he's running from you :D | 13:51 |
| armin76 | *away | 13:51 |
| cwillu_at_work | I was wondering about that actually :p | 13:51 |
| cwillu_at_work | omg | 13:53 |
| cwillu_at_work | that's embarrasing | 13:53 |
| cwillu_at_work | I've got a webapp I run in an undecorated fullscreen firefox window | 13:53 |
| cwillu_at_work | been having horrible performance | 13:53 |
| cwillu_at_work | firefox using 60-80% cpu, with the backend server using the other 20% | 13:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | (backend has to poll a bunch of serial devices and push data to firefox) | 13:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | figured it was just the overhead of updating things / the push system | 13:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | finally got around to getting venkman on it | 13:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | a completely unrelated piece of code was in a hard mutually recursive loop: initializing a drop-down menu was triggering a request to get data, and the request handler was triggering an init of the drop-down | 13:56 |
| cwillu_at_work | the embarrassing part is that I've been working under the false assumption for long enough to have actually shipped this to customers :p | 13:57 |
| hrw | http://people.canonical.com/~hrw/ubuntu-maverick-armel-cross-compilers/ contains now amd64 and i386 cross toolchains for armel target | 15:22 |
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| rsavoye | hrw: is there a branch for the source used to build your cross toolchain ? | 16:22 |
| hrw | rsavoye: I used ubuntu sources | 16:22 |
| hrw | will add README | 16:22 |
| rsavoye | so no Code Sourcery patch yet ? | 16:22 |
| hrw | not yet | 16:22 |
| rsavoye | you hacked libstdc++ and libiberty to cross configure ? | 16:23 |
| rsavoye | hrw: there is a nice patch in GCC trunk for Android you might want to add when you get to patching 4.4 | 16:23 |
| rsavoye | all it does is cleanup linking mostly | 16:23 |
| hrw | rsavoye: url? | 16:24 |
| rsavoye | the thread is at http://www.pubbs.net/201005/gcc/37284-patch-06-add-support-for-android.html | 16:24 |
| rsavoye | it's based on my older Android patch, and adds bionic support in a nice generic way | 16:25 |
| lool | hey rsavoye | 16:25 |
| rsavoye | howdy | 16:25 |
| lool | rsavoye: Might make sense for you folks to discuss this on #linaro, but here is fine too | 16:26 |
| rsavoye | ah, didn't think of that, thanks | 16:26 |
| rsavoye | I was just hacking on ARM toolchains this weekend for Gnash, so pipped up when I saw the link to debs | 16:26 |
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| fabrice_sp | Hi. Just as a follow up of last time I connected (About atlas build on arm): I'll upload atlas as someone has been able to build it in qemu | 21:16 |
| fabrice_sp | in case it loops, who should I poke to kill it? | 21:16 |
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| tumbleweed | ogra: I'm still getting a fair number of qemu segfaults with lucid | 22:06 |
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