[00:37] <akgraner> doctormo, ping - when you get a few minutes can you talk to me about creating logo's
[00:56] <doctormo> akgraner: Sure, what would you like to know?
[01:13] <akgraner> doctormo, if you will make one for me :-)
[01:14] <akgraner> or know someone who would like to
[01:14] <doctormo> akgraner: This would be for the Community Days?
[01:14] <akgraner> nope - News Team
[01:14] <akgraner> I need an updated newspaper
[01:15] <akgraner> and a fridge and an overall news team logo
[01:16] <akgraner> I am willing to learn to make them - but not sure it would be completed anytime soon
[01:17] <akgraner> and since you know all the art people I thought even if you couldn't do it yourself you could point me in the right direction
[01:17] <akgraner> or to the right person
[01:18] <akgraner> no hurry but thought since everything was getting updated might as well go for broke and look into logos as well
[01:25] <doctormo> akgraner: Perhaps we could post a message to the deviantArt group, newspapers shouldn't be too hard but I take it your sick of the tango newspaper icon?
[01:26] <akgraner> doctormo, not sick of it... was just hoping could get an updated one :-)
[01:27] <akgraner> that looks "lighter"  and cleaner
[01:28] <akgraner> I like the other one but one with the new ubuntu logo or something would be really awesome
[01:29] <doctormo> akgraner: Do you have a link tot he current one?
[01:29] <akgraner> and a fridge with those bubble things as magnets on the Fridge door or something would be cool
[01:29] <akgraner> doctormo, yep one sec and I'll get you the newspaper one
[01:30] <akgraner> doctormo, http://frylock.redvoodoo.org/~akgraner/newspaper-icon3.jpg
[01:30] <akgraner> I don't have a link to the Fridge icon
[02:29] <doctormo> Thanks akgraner, I'll think about the best people to get on it, there are a couple of other good icon people too I might know.
[02:30] <akgraner> doctormo, thank you so much!
[03:27] <jcastro> jono: do you still have that ultrathin system 76?
[03:27]  * jcastro is considering buying one
[03:30] <jono> jcastro, yep
[03:30] <jono> it is sweet
[03:31] <jono> keyboard is a little plasticy, but in general I like it
[03:31] <jcastro> how's the battery life?
[03:34] <jono> not bad
[03:34] <jono> but great
[03:34] <jono> right have to run
[03:34] <jono> biab
[04:28] <nigelbabu> JFo: I heard that there were a lot of funny stuff at SELF :)
[05:31] <nigelbabu> jono: hey!
[05:33] <jono> heya nigelbabu :)
[05:37] <nigelbabu> jono: when you get time to blog, can you add cleansweep to that list? some time this week perhaps?
[07:56] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[07:57] <jussi> morning dpm
[07:57] <dpm> hey jussi
[07:58] <dholbach> good morning
[07:59] <dpm> hey dholbach, morning!
[07:59] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:15] <nigelbabu> morning jussi, dpm, dholbach :)
[08:15] <dpm> hey hey nigelbabu :)
[08:15] <dholbach> heya nigelbabu
[09:34] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:37] <dholbach> hi czajkowski
[09:37] <czajkowski> dholbach: ello how's things?
[09:38] <dholbach> good good - how 'bout you?
[09:40] <czajkowski> grand sitting in back garden reading
[09:40] <czajkowski> Summer is back
[09:41] <dpm> morning czajkowski :)
[09:41] <czajkowski> dpm: howdy
[09:43] <dpm> morning popey, did you have a chance to look into the e-mail about screencasts I sent you? I'm about to start recording one, so I may start assaulting you with questions soon :)
[10:16] <doctormo> Morning
[10:32] <nigelbabu> doctormo: morning!
[10:49] <popey> ah yes dpm !
[10:49]  * popey goes to find it
[10:51] <popey> dpm: its probably easier to have a skype/mumble chat at some point to be honest
[10:54] <dpm> popey, sure. Would you have time some time this week?
[10:54] <popey> yes
[10:58] <dpm> popey, cool, you can just send me an e-mail or PM with what time suits you best and we can have a chat. I'm generally away on Tue and Thu evenings, but apart from that, other times should be fine. For now I've got a question already, though. Do you know any good app for subtitles? I've heard of gnome-subtitles, but I've never actually used it
[11:00] <popey> yup, thats the one we have used
[11:01] <popey> works quite well, generates srt files which can be used on youtube and in totem
[11:01] <dpm> ah, cool
[11:01] <dpm> thanks
[11:01] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts/Subtitles seen that?
[11:02] <popey> ah, no, not that one, subtitle-editor is the one people used iirc
[11:02] <dpm> ah, I missed that one. I had only read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[11:02] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts/Subtitles/SubtitleEditor
[11:02] <dpm> ah, right
[11:02] <popey> how to links at the bottom of that page
[11:02] <dpm> reading now
[11:05] <dpm> I must say the documentation of the screencasting team is brilliant, good work!
[11:06] <popey> really!?
[11:06] <popey> needs updating :)
[11:06] <popey> I stepped down from the screencast team, give someone else a chance :)
[11:06] <popey> I'm doing some screencasts for my mum at the moment, very short ones
[11:14] <dpm> I found it very good. All the info I found there has been very useful. Yeah, some parts might need updating, but that's the nature of our fast environment :)
[11:16] <popey> you're too kind :)
[11:21] <dpm> no, really, just being honest! :) Anyway, my virtual machine is up and running, let me give this a go.
[11:21] <popey> dpm: which software are you using to record?
[11:22] <dpm> I'm going to use gtkrecordmydesktop
[11:22] <popey> dpm: http://popey.com/blog/2009/08/25/getting-back-into-screencasting/ might be useful, especially the command line options for recordmydesktop
[11:22] <popey> cool
[11:23] <dpm> popey, ah, thanks
[11:49] <dholbach> popey, pleia2: cc meeting?
[11:49] <dholbach> (in 11m)
[11:51] <popey> ok
[11:52]  * dholbach hugs popey
[11:52]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[11:53] <dholbach> :-)
[12:03] <duanedesign> popey: i did update the screencast how-to
[12:04] <popey> ah, excellent :)
[12:05] <duanedesign> ah, i see that would be /ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[12:05] <duanedesign> i am now looking at /ScreenCasts
[12:06] <duanedesign> popey: I need to start developing a plan to build some 'buzz' around the team
[14:29] <dpm> popey, I've recorded a 1024x768, 8 min., no audio screencast (~54 MB) with gtk-recordmydesktop, then I've simply added a header to it with Pitivi and then I thought I'd render it (720x480, 29 fps, theora). Is it normal that it's going to take like 10 hours to do that, or has something gone horribly wrong?
[14:35] <popey> dpm: heh, welcome to video encoding :)
[14:36] <popey> dpm: it would be faster if you rendered out at 1024x768, as soon as you scale down (or indeed up) you're gonna chew up CPU cycles
[14:38] <dpm> popey, yeah, I'm doing that now, looks a lot better, but what surprised me is that the CPU load wasn't going up. It says 25 minutes now, let's see if it stays that way :)
[14:40] <popey> if the cpu load stays idle then chances are something is wrong
[14:40] <popey> video encoding will usually murder the system
[14:40] <popey> you're not doing this on a netbook are you? :D
[14:40] <dpm> no, and also not on a 286 or something like that :)
[14:41] <dpm> anyway, it looks good now, it's loading the CPU as there's no tomorrow, but the remaining time stays in the minutes range, which is good
[14:46] <popey> cool
[15:04] <dholbach> akgraner: heya - how are you doing?
[15:11] <dpm> popey, my first ever screencast has been rendered \o/. It's pretty much proof-of-concept, though. I'm going to play with subtitles now.
[15:12] <popey> yay!
[15:12] <dpm> :)
[15:12] <popey> dpm: what video format did you render out as in pitivi?
[15:12] <popey> ogv?
[15:12] <dpm> yeah, I just took the default
[15:12] <popey> cool
[15:15] <dpm> I think I read somewhere on the screencasts docs that mpeg was recommended instead as the master format. Is that still the case?
[15:15] <popey> not really, it was when we didnt have a video editor that understood ogv but now we do
[15:16] <dpm> ah, cool.
[15:18] <popey> dpm: what did you add to the front in pitivi? a title page?
[15:18] <dpm> yeah
[15:18] <popey> I've not done that in pitivi before
[15:18] <dpm> I created a 5 sec presentation with Impress with the title and recorded it
[15:19] <popey> hah, was about to say.. i used openoffice to do it :)
[15:19] <dpm> I read all your tricks on the docs! :)
[15:21] <popey> hah
[15:21] <dpm> One thing I haven't managed to get right is the recording area in gtk-recordmydesktop. I use a VM, and even selecting only the window, it shows a few pixels around, apart from the fact that the "do not capture the window decorations" option does not work for me. I think I'll have to resort to recording my real desktop
[15:22] <dpm> or swap to a hard drive with a pristine installation
[15:22] <popey> ah, no, you can do that if you use rmd on the command line
[15:22] <popey> you specify the x and y and width and height
[15:22] <popey> and move your window to that location
[15:22] <popey> its clunky but meh
[15:23] <popey> see that blog post earlier, i do it in there
[15:24] <dpm> ah yeah, I see the parameters now. What do you use to see the x, y location where you need to move the window to?.
[15:27] <popey> i do it the other way, set the x/y and width/height  and then move the window into that box
[15:28] <popey> so if you have the vm set to 1024x768, I would use...
[15:28] <dpm> oh, I see, once you've set it you see the square on the screen
[15:28] <popey> yes
[15:28] <popey> once
[15:28]  * dpm tries
[15:28] <popey> then once it's in the right place, kill rmd and run it again with --no-frame
[15:28] <popey> so you dont get the box on the screen
[15:29] <popey> because the box actually makes rmd less stable
[15:29] <dpm> cool, I'll try that, thanks
[15:29] <popey> np
[15:48] <dholbach> hola jono
[15:49] <jono> hey dholbach
[15:51] <nigelbabu> morning jono
[15:51] <nigelbabu> jono: feeling better?
[15:52] <jono> hey nigelbabu
[15:52] <jono> I am now
[15:52] <jono> finally :)
[15:53] <jono> dpm, call in 8?
[15:53] <dpm> hey jono, morning! yes, I'll be all set in 8
[15:53] <jono> dpm, perfect :)
[15:57] <dholbach> akgraner: just started UDW planning (you're CCed :-))
[15:58] <akgraner> dholbach, awesome - was going to ping you tomorrow about that
[15:58] <akgraner> you are always a step ahead of me :-)
[15:58] <dholbach> not really :)
[15:58] <akgraner> I am finally recovering from the weekend
[15:58] <akgraner> sigh
[15:59] <jono> greg-g, thanks so much for the blog
[15:59] <jono> greg-g, I just tweeted it :)
[15:59] <akgraner> I'll plug dates in my spreadsheet and get a calendar ready task list ready and start checking things off :-)
[15:59] <dpm> hey akgraner, how are you feeling?
[16:00] <akgraner> tired.. :-(  but I am resting so some things are taking a bit longer to complete, but all is well - Everyday above ground is a good day! :-)
[16:00] <dpm> :-)
[16:01] <jono> dpm, alright, logging in
[16:01] <dpm> okie dokie
[16:02] <jcastro> dholbach: I got one too!
[16:02]  * dholbach hugs jcastro
[16:02] <dpm> jono, I can hear you, but it seems there is a delay
[16:03] <jono> dpm, odd
[16:03] <jono> dpm, lets do skype
[16:03] <dpm> jono, yeah
[16:50] <cjohnston> mornin
[16:59] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[16:59] <dholbach> see you tomorrow!
[17:40] <akgraner> here is a little something to brighten you all's day :-)  http://frylock.redvoodoo.org/~akgraner/P1000429.JPG
[17:42] <akgraner> oh and here is the one where she talks about me replacing her with jono
[17:42] <akgraner> http://frylock.redvoodoo.org/~akgraner/Becca%20at%20SELF/P1000439.JPG
[17:52] <popey> hehe
[17:56] <cjohnston> she looks so enthused
[18:01] <jcastro> oh god. LOL
[18:01] <jcastro> RT @homeworkprod: I heard relocating window buttons to the left side in #Ubuntu is to make room for a big #Vuvuzuela button on the right.
[18:08] <cjohnston> jcastro: time for a quick call?
[18:10] <jcastro> cjohnston: in about 5 to 10?
[18:10] <jcastro> cjohnston: waiting for the one part of the desktop team meeting I need to finish.
[18:10] <cjohnston> sure
[18:11] <cjohnston> PM can work also
[18:49] <czajkowski> feckin' priceless http://twitter.com/keybuk/status/16241144361
[19:03] <cjohnston> nice
[20:16] <jcastro> jono: can you send a mail to debian@ubuntu to see if I get it?
[20:16] <jcastro> jono: sorry I should have made it clear I was testing that for me, not you, heh
[20:17] <jono> done jcastro
[20:17] <jcastro> yeah! rock and roll, I am in business!
[20:18] <jcastro> jono: lucas is busy this week, so we've decided to tag team the debian list o items next week together
[20:18] <jcastro> but I managed to get one WI done today, I have 3 outstanding that should be closeable tomorrow
[20:19] <jono> cool :)
[20:19] <jono> thanks jcastro
[20:37] <doctormo> nigelb: hello?
[20:38] <cjohnston> hey doctormo
[20:49] <jcastro> jono: we have a call in ~12?
[20:49] <jcastro> jono: I don't have any agenda items
[21:05] <jono> jcastro, lets skip
[21:06] <jcastro> no complaints here!
[21:23] <jcastro> jono: there was one semi-urgent matter
[21:23] <jcastro> jono: I didn't know they were doing this: http://www.fathomevents.com/concertsandmusic/series/the_big_four.aspx
[21:23] <jcastro> that's next week
[21:24] <jcastro> I am having people scrambling to find tickets now, just an FYI
[21:24] <jono> wow
[21:24] <jcastro> I know! Live!
[21:24] <jcastro> We need burndown charts for this.
[21:24] <jono> is that just that one date?
[21:24] <jono> oh hang on
[21:24] <jono> thats a movie?
[21:25] <jono> a live show
[21:25] <jcastro> it's beamed live to theaters during the event
[21:25] <jono> sweet~
[21:25] <jcastro> which is in .eu somewhere
[21:51] <jono> jussi, ping?
[21:52] <jono> jussi, could you take a look at completing your action on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-process-improvements - thanks!
[21:53] <jono> jcastro, is sense's item on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-upstream-contacts still TODO?
[21:54] <jcastro> jono: I think it's DONE, but iirc the work item was to review the current roles and made sure they still made sense
[21:54] <jcastro> I can follow up with him on it
[21:55] <jono> jcastro,  if you could, thanks
[21:56] <jussi> jono: are the page links finalised now?
[21:57] <jono> jussi, many of them are already there
[21:57] <jono> I think we just need to start adding them
[21:57] <jono> see wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity
[21:58] <jussi> jono: I dont mind doing it, just Id rather wait till the links are finalised so I dont need to go changing them all again.
[21:58] <jono> jussi, they will never change
[21:58] <jono> just added to
[21:58] <jcastro> jono: also, if you're looking for an easy WI, you can probably handle the one about mailing Trent Reznor. :p
[21:58] <jono> jcastro, lol
[21:58] <jussi> jono: right, no probs!
[21:58] <jono> will do
[21:58] <jono> jussi, thanks!
[22:05] <jussi> jono: are you still planning to run this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/CommunityQuestionTime
[22:05] <jussi> its very old :D
[22:06] <JFo> we're changing the name of that to "Fireside chats with Jono"
[22:06] <JFo> j/k
[22:06] <jono> jussi, I do that on Wednesday's but as a video chat
[22:06] <jono> will update it
[22:06] <jussi> :)
[22:07] <jussi> jono: Im thinking there will be problably 1-3 factoids to begin with, for the most frequent peices of knowledge needed. adding more is easy, if more are needed. Problem is, often the bot gets factoids added that could be useful, but they rarely/never get used, so they get culled.
[22:08] <jono> jussi, np
[22:28] <jcastro> JFo: http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=72
[22:28] <jcastro> JFo: next time you're trudging through your lists can you see if this list now reflects what you expected it to?
[22:28] <jono> jcastro, can you do me a favor - set me up a redirect on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek to go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek
[22:28] <jono> I always forget how to do those
[22:29] <jcastro> yep
[22:29] <jono> thanks
[22:29]  * JFo looks
[22:29] <JFo> jcastro, will do :)
[22:30] <jcastro> jono: done
[22:30] <jcastro> #REDIRECT UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek
[22:30] <jcastro> ^^ FYI
[22:32] <jono> jcastro, thanks
[22:35] <jono> jcastro, so on https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-patch-review-initiative I have "[jonobacon] speak with J. Castro re. upstream work and patch review: TODO"
[22:35] <jono> this was regarding how we best handle patches that should go upstream
[22:35] <jcastro> ok
[22:36] <jcastro> jono: don't we talk about that all the time?
[22:36] <jono> yeah, I think the action was about how specifically build awareness into Project Cleansweep
[22:36] <jono> tbh, I think it is better if you have the conversation with nigelbabu about this
[22:36] <jcastro> sore
[22:36] <jcastro> er, sure
[22:37] <jcastro> jono: why not DONE that one and add one for me?
[22:37] <jcastro> or just rename it to be mine
[22:39] <jono> jcastro, I will give it to you
[22:45] <akgraner> jono, just replied to your email - there is an attachment as well :-)
[22:50] <jono> thanks akgraner
[22:50] <akgraner> you'll have more early next week :-)
[22:53] <doctormo> jono: Did you know there are a couple of ubuntu stickers on the new IT Crowd series set?
[22:56] <jono> doctormo, really? cool!
[22:57] <doctormo> They're on the monitor and there is one in the background, really cool as there is also an EFF sticker and a The Register Vultcher... it's a tricked out geek pad now.