[06:34] <humphreybc-mini> vish: ping?
[06:35] <vish> humphreybc-mini: hey
[06:35] <humphreybc-mini> got a minute?
[06:36] <vish> humphreybc-mini: yup
[06:36] <humphreybc-mini> groovy
[06:36] <humphreybc-mini> I got your email
[06:36] <humphreybc-mini> http://www.flickr.com/photos/humphreybc/sets/72157624139515783/
[06:37] <humphreybc-mini> that's what the final design will look like, more or less. I need to tweak some of the shadows and mock up a couple more pages, but that's pretty much it
[06:37] <vish> humphreybc-mini: but isnt about us and contrib the same?
[06:37] <humphreybc-mini> I like the download icon, the second, skinnier one. The contributors one is excellent. For the getting involved one, I do like the idea of a puzzle piece
[06:38] <humphreybc-mini> nope, they're different - i need to change the wording though
[06:38] <humphreybc-mini> about us is about the team
[06:38] <humphreybc-mini> contributors is just the credits
[06:38] <humphreybc-mini> basically
[06:38] <vish> ah ok
[06:38] <humphreybc-mini> Do you think it would be better to make the credits page a link at the bottom, and replace the main link in the nav bar with quickshot?
[06:38] <humphreybc-mini> I want to limit the main links up top to four
[06:39] <vish> humphreybc-mini: also, the about us is usually the last link in a page/row
[06:39] <vish> we can move the about us to the bottom and leave the contrib on the top
[06:40] <humphreybc-mini> true
[06:40] <humphreybc-mini> do you think contributors deserves a main link up the top?
[06:40] <humphreybc-mini> (considering the other links down the bottom)
[06:41] <humphreybc-mini> No I want the about us up the top
[06:41] <humphreybc-mini> otherwise no one knows about the team
[06:41] <vish> hmm , not sure. depends on what we want. if the goal is to display the contribs more prominently , then yes.. if not, meh
[06:41] <humphreybc-mini> it's an important page
[06:41] <humphreybc-mini> (about us)
[06:42] <humphreybc-mini> I think the ordering and naming is okay
[06:42] <humphreybc-mini> the distinction between about us and contributors is fairly clear
[06:42] <humphreybc-mini> with "what we do" opposed to "who we are"
[06:43] <vish> humphreybc-mini: why not have the contribs in the about us page?
[06:43] <humphreybc-mini> it'd make it too long
[06:43]  * vish checks all the images ,to "get" the final design
[06:43] <humphreybc-mini> and there would be two videos, then
[06:44] <vish> humphreybc-mini: make the contributors name a scroll
[06:45] <vish> if someone clicks , it can be displayed in full , else it will be  ascrolling list
[06:45] <vish> *a scrolling
[06:45] <humphreybc-mini> hmm
[06:47] <humphreybc-mini> I think the about us page will be too full then
[06:47] <humphreybc-mini> anyway
[06:47] <humphreybc-mini> so icons
[06:47] <vish> humphreybc-mini: where is the about us page?
[06:47] <vish> i cant find it in flickr
[06:47] <humphreybc-mini> http://www.flickr.com/photos/humphreybc/4695329375/in/set-72157624139515783/
[06:50] <vish> humphreybc-mini: why not name the about us to "goals" or something similar.. basically the "about us" being the 2nd item is a bit weird
[06:50] <vish> anyway.. ;)
[06:51] <vish> humphreybc-mini: the "how you can help" is more of a "get involved" subtopic
[06:54] <godbyk> contributors could be a subpage of 'about us', too.
[06:54] <humphreybc-mini> it's just a pointer to get involved
[06:54] <humphreybc-mini> icons :P
[06:54] <humphreybc-mini> it could be, but it's not going to be :)
[06:55] <vish> godbyk: we try  .. ;)
[06:55] <godbyk> Just a thought. :)
[06:55] <humphreybc-mini> soooo icons
[06:56] <humphreybc-mini> if you have a look around the site, I've used several more icons in places to break up text
[06:56] <humphreybc-mini> well, images
[06:56] <vish> humphreybc-mini: yeah , the icons , "about us" ca be an "i" instead of a "?"
[06:56] <vish> "i" = info
[06:56] <humphreybc-mini> vish: that's the only icon i'm stuck on
[06:56] <vish> '?' = help
[06:57] <vish> humphreybc-mini: oh , you prefer it that way  /only/ ?
[06:57] <humphreybc-mini> no no
[06:57] <humphreybc-mini> I mean I like the icon ideas for the other three in the nav page
[06:57] <humphreybc-mini> nav header
[06:59] <humphreybc-mini> just cant come up with something for the about us
[06:59] <vish> on it
[07:01] <humphreybc-mini> also there's the person on the get involved page
[07:01] <humphreybc-mini> I'd rather he have a more "thinking" look about it
[07:01] <humphreybc-mini> him*
[07:01] <humphreybc-mini> with his arms crossed and his finger on his chin or something
[07:02] <thorwil> morning!
[07:02] <vish> godbyk: lets tag thorwil  ;)
[07:02] <humphreybc-mini> and also, vish, if you see here I just used the icons from the header as watermark type things for the right side http://www.flickr.com/photos/humphreybc/4695964476/in/set-72157624139515783/
[07:02] <thorwil> huh? tag with what?
[07:03] <vish> humphreybc-mini:  yeah , thats no bigge
[07:04] <humphreybc-mini> vish: I'm not sure whether we can come up with a better series of images for a watermark that better works with the "philosophy"
[07:04] <vish> thorwil: we were trying the convince humphreybc-mini the "about us" and "contributors" can be merged into one ;)  your turn
[07:04] <humphreybc-mini> not gonna happen :)O
[07:05] <vish> ;p
[07:05] <vish> thorwil: YOU FAILED before you even tried ;p
[07:06] <thorwil> vish: no, i SUCCEEDED in not even trying what can only fail :)
[07:06] <vish> lol
[07:07] <humphreybc-mini> haha
[07:07] <humphreybc-mini> anyway
[07:08] <thorwil> seriously, "About us" and "Contributors" would be candidates for merging, indeed. but the sub-titles "What we do" and "Who we are" do give sense to separation
[07:08] <humphreybc-mini> do you want me to email you the list of icons that I need vish?
[07:08] <vish> sure
[07:09] <shrini> team:
[07:09] <shrini> http://twitter.com/TheUbuntuManual
[07:09] <shrini> is not working
[07:09] <humphreybc-mini> works for me
[07:13] <shrini> s
[07:13] <shrini> now it is woking
[07:13] <shrini> :-)
[07:18] <humphreybc-mini> right
[07:18] <humphreybc-mini> gotta go cook some dinner
[07:20] <shrini> team: need help
[07:20] <shrini> is there any link
[07:22] <shrini> that explains how to make the ubuntu-manual ourself?
[07:24] <godbyk> shrini: http://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/editors may help.
[07:27] <shrini> godbyk: thats great
[07:27] <shrini> why we use  TeX Live 2009?
[07:27] <shrini> any new features over 2007?
[07:28] <godbyk> shrini: yeah, the 2007 packages don't support the translation stuff we're doing.
[07:29] <godbyk> shrini: Though ubuntujenkins has 2009 packages in a PPA now.
[07:29] <shrini> PPA?
[07:29] <shrini> right
[07:29] <shrini> i think i too used PPA
[07:29] <shrini> i did not installed manually
[07:29] <shrini> but forget how i did
[07:29] <shrini> hehe
[07:31] <godbyk> I'm afraid I don't have any instructions for his PPA.  I've seen links float past, but I don't have those logs handy.
[07:32] <shrini> okok
[07:32] <shrini> no worries
[07:33] <shrini> should request ubuntujenkins to document it somewhere
[07:36] <godbyk> I think he has---I just don't know where.
[07:38] <nisshh> whats this about the manual ppa?
[07:40] <godbyk> this is about the ppa ubuntujenkins created for newer texlive packages.
[07:41] <nisshh> yea, im using it too
[07:41] <godbyk> Do you happen to have the instructions ubuntujenkins gave you for setting it up?
[07:41] <godbyk> I think shrini wants to use it, too.
[07:43] <nisshh> there was no setup required
[07:44] <godbyk> Well, you had to run add-apt-repository and then install the packages, right?
[07:44] <nisshh> all i did was add the ppa, update my sources and install a specific package
[07:44] <nisshh> yea
[07:44] <nisshh> hang on ill find the package
[07:44] <godbyk> Yeah.. can you give those instructions to shrini?
[07:44] <nisshh> no probs gimme a minute shrini
[07:45] <nisshh> shrini: you there, i can help you install tex, from ubuntujenkins ppa if you like
[07:50] <nisshh> shrini: ping
[07:51] <shrini> nisshh: pong
[07:52] <nisshh> shrini: do you need help adding ubuntujenkins ppa?
[07:52] <shrini> hai
[07:52] <nisshh> and installing the right package
[07:53] <shrini> my friend is working in bringing a book
[07:53] <shrini> Eucalyptus Beginner’s Guide – UEC Edition
[07:53] <shrini> the book is here
[07:53] <shrini> http://cssoss.wordpress.com/
[07:53] <shrini> want to bring it as pdf
[07:54] <nisshh> what do you mean bring it?
[07:54] <shrini> he asked me how we used latex to bring our manual
[07:54] <shrini> he wrote the book online i wordpress
[07:54] <nisshh> ah
[07:54] <shrini> wants to use latex for pdf version
[07:55] <nisshh> so he wants to re-write the book using latex to output a pdf, am i right?
[07:55] <shrini> yes
[07:55] <shrini> nisshh: you are right
[07:56] <nisshh> ok, and your friend is using the ppa to install tex?
[07:56] <shrini> i like to show him on
[07:57] <shrini> how to install the 2009 version
[07:57] <nisshh> ok
[07:57] <shrini> and how to compile the manual to pdf
[07:57] <shrini> he know latex
[07:57] <shrini> he may tweek our code to fit for his needs
[07:57] <nisshh> right i see
[07:57] <nisshh> so he uses ubuntu?
[07:57] <nisshh> or a debian derivative?
[07:57] <shrini> ubuntu
[07:57] <nisshh> right ok
[07:58] <nisshh> well, there are no instructions for the ppa as far as i know, but its dead simple to use anyway
[07:59] <nisshh> shrini: what does your friend need help with, exactly?
[07:59] <nisshh> just the ppa?
[08:00] <shrini> ya
[08:00] <shrini> PPA info will be fine
[08:00] <nisshh> ok
[08:00] <shrini> as it is easy to install
[08:00] <nisshh> yep
[08:00] <shrini> we need have the PPA and install instructions somewhere online
[08:01] <shrini> to give link
[08:01] <shrini> to others
[08:01] <nisshh> we do? i didnt know we had instructions
[08:02] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins told me which package to install
[08:02] <nisshh> anyway: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/+archive/ubuntu-manual
[08:02] <nisshh> thats the ppa
[08:02] <nisshh> shrini: oh, sorry, i misunderstood, yea we do need instructions
[08:03] <shrini> :-)
[08:03] <shrini> if we have a guide on how to use the ppa and install
[08:03] <nisshh> the package you want to install from that ppa is: ubuntu-manual-tex
[08:03] <shrini> we can share the link to beginners
[08:03] <shrini> thnx
[08:03] <nisshh> shrini: we should put it on the website
[08:04] <shrini> ya
[08:04] <shrini> thats what I requested
[08:04] <shrini> :-)
[08:04] <nisshh> yea, how did you request it? did you ask someone?
[08:05] <shrini> i am asking here only
[08:05] <shrini> hehe
[08:05] <nisshh> ah
[08:05] <nisshh> tell you what, ill chuck a blog post on my blog right now with the instructions, you can share that until we get something on the website
[08:06] <nisshh> hows that sound?
[08:07] <shrini> sounds good
[08:07] <shrini> thanks a lot
[08:07] <nisshh> no problem, just give me a few minutes to sort it out
[08:08] <nisshh> shrini: is it ok, if i use cli commands in the instructions, it will take me all day to try and explain how to use software sources
[08:09] <shrini> just give instructions
[08:09] <shrini> as per your wish
[08:09] <nisshh> ok sure thing
[08:10] <shrini> thanks a lot
[08:28] <nisshh> shrini: done: https://freakaboutlinux.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/tip-using-the-ubuntu-manual-projects-ppa/
[08:28] <godbyk> The latest builds are up at http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/.
[08:29] <godbyk> And now I'm gonna head to bed.  G'night!
[08:29] <nisshh> godbyk: gnight
[08:30] <shrini> nisshh: wow
[08:30] <shrini> thanlks
[08:30] <nisshh> shrini: no problem, thats what linux users do for each other :)
[08:32] <shrini> true
[08:32] <shrini> :-)
[08:32] <shrini> thanks a lot
[08:32] <nisshh> np, share that link as much as you want
[08:32] <nisshh> :)
[08:33] <shrini> ya
[08:33] <shrini> send him the details
[08:34] <shrini> sent
[08:34] <shrini> :-)
[08:35] <nisshh> cool
[10:39] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: do we have instructions up somewhere, that tell people how to use the texlive ppa?
[10:40] <ubuntujenkins> ?mppa | nisshh
[10:40] <quickshotdevs> nisshh: The manual team has a latex PPA  you can add it by running these commands in a terminal(Applications → Accessories → Terminal):  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual then    sudo apt-get update    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-manual-tex
[10:40] <ubuntujenkins> they are not on the website yet
[10:40] <nisshh> right
[10:41] <ubuntujenkins> its on the long list of things to do
[10:41] <nisshh> as a temporary thing that i did for shrini today: https://freakaboutlinux.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/tip-using-the-ubuntu-manual-projects-ppa/
[10:41] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: yea, i thought it might be
[10:42] <ubuntujenkins> thanks nisshh am i ok just to copy what you wrote onto the website?
[10:42] <nisshh> sure
[10:42] <nisshh> go for it
[10:42] <ubuntujenkins> cool I will try and sort that today
[10:42] <nisshh> cool
[11:27] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: also, i read your post on the ML thismorning, very cool idea
[11:40] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: glad you like it just got to make a start on it
[11:46] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: yea, im interested in working on it though :)
[11:47] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: that would be great there is a suggestion to extend help.ubuntu.com so you can view it in yelp and on other platforms
[11:48] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/msg01966.html I can't decide the pros and cons between help.ubuntu.com and a program
[11:49] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: well, help.ubuntu.com is horribly outdated in some parts
[11:49] <nisshh> so thats a con
[11:51] <ubuntujenkins> yea I am also unsure of where it would really fit in. We are updating as per bens idea but I have no clue how that is working
[11:52] <ubuntujenkins> are we replacing help.ubuntu.com with bens idea or is that going some where else?
[11:53] <ubuntujenkins> it would probably work in the grand scheme of bens idea it would look very shiny as a page or two on the site
[11:53] <nisshh> yea i agree
[11:54] <nisshh> i dont know much about bens idea either
[11:54] <ubuntujenkins> All i know is there are a lot of pictures and its going to be a lot of work
[11:55] <nisshh> no kidding :)
[11:56] <ubuntujenkins> pro is i like to write programs and think i would learn allot doing it :P
[11:56] <ubuntujenkins> not a great pro though
[11:57] <nisshh> yep
[11:59] <ubuntujenkins> hmm we need more pros
[12:01]  * ubuntujenkins think luke think!
[12:03] <humphreybc-mini> what's up
[12:03] <nisshh> yo
[12:03] <ubuntujenkins> hey humphreybc-mini
[12:03] <humphreybc-mini> nisshh: australia got whipped by germany
[12:03] <humphreybc-mini> 4 - 0
[12:03] <humphreybc-mini> feel the burn
[12:03] <humphreybc-mini> Are you going to watch the NZ vs Slovakia game?
[12:04] <dutchie> humphreybc-mini has world cup fever all of a sudden
[12:04] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: hehe, i dont really care, i dont give a rats ass about most sports
[12:04] <humphreybc-mini> Yeah I don't really care too much either, but it is nice to see NZ in the world cup
[12:04] <humphreybc-mini> I watched us win the qualifier at a party, everyone went nuts when we got in
[12:05] <nisshh> hehe
[12:05] <humphreybc-mini> my flatmates have exams and shit tomorrow so I'm watching it alone :(
[12:05]  * ubuntujenkins has finished his last exam
[12:05] <nisshh> ill be here! :)
[12:05] <humphreybc-mini> haha
[12:07] <ubuntujenkins> anyone know how to browse the internet in yelp?
[12:09] <nisshh> ah, nope
[12:09] <nisshh> is that even possible?
[12:09] <ubuntujenkins> apparently you can view webpages in it acording to https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/msg01966.html so i guess you can
[12:09] <nisshh> meh, ok
[12:10] <ubuntujenkins> I just want to see how pages look in yelp
[12:10]  * nisshh is waiting for a torrent to finish so he can install and use mutt
[12:10] <ubuntujenkins> thats in the repo
[12:11] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: i know
[12:11] <ubuntujenkins> ok just thought i would mention it
[12:11] <nisshh> but my net is so slow and crappy that i cant install stuff and torrent at full speed at the same time :)
[12:11]  * ubuntujenkins is off to lunch be back
[12:12] <nisshh> ok
[12:13] <humphreybc-mini> yelp sucks
[12:13] <humphreybc-mini> it can't do anything of any worth in a reasonable amount of time
[12:13] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: yep
[12:14] <nisshh> although apparently its got performance improvements in 10.10
[12:14] <humphreybc-mini> i'd grow old and die before I learnt how to use my computer if I relied on yelp
[12:14] <nisshh> hehe
[12:15] <humphreybc-mini> only 15 minutes till kick off
[12:15] <humphreybc-mini> you got a tv nearby Ryan?
[12:15] <nisshh> um, if you count the living room nearby, yes
[12:16] <humphreybc-mini> lol
[12:16] <nisshh> in my case that would be 40 meters away
[12:16] <nisshh> what? just because i cant afford a 42" HDTV for my room :)
[12:17] <humphreybc-mini> I don't have one of them!
[12:17] <humphreybc-mini> I have two 24" monitors
[12:17] <nisshh> oh, ok thats alright then!
[12:18] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: your still doing better than me, i have one 19"
[12:18] <humphreybc-mini> haha
[12:18] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: have you seen the movie called The A Team?
[12:18] <humphreybc-mini> not yet no
[12:18] <humphreybc-mini> it looks terrible
[12:19] <humphreybc-mini> have you seen the original series?
[12:19] <nisshh> its pretty funny in the trailer
[12:19] <nisshh> i think i saw one of the originals
[12:19] <nisshh> ages ago
[12:19] <nisshh> maybe
[12:19] <nisshh> dont ever ask me to remember something
[12:19] <humphreybc-mini> lol
[12:19] <nisshh> i have a photographic memory
[12:20] <humphreybc-mini> that means you should be able to remember tonnes of shit
[12:20] <nisshh> im like a computer with only 8MB's of RAM but shotwell installed on it
[12:21] <humphreybc-mini> lol
[12:21] <nisshh> no, a photographic memory means i remember images or the position of things much better than data
[12:21] <thorwil> there is only one true Mr. T / B.A. Baracus!
[12:21] <nisshh> hehe
[12:22] <nisshh> i watched Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated movie from 2008 last night
[12:22] <nisshh> was funny
[12:22] <nisshh> coz they gave droids way too much inteligence
[12:22] <thorwil> http://lovelyentropy.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/b-a-baracus-mrt-t-mobile.jpg
[12:23] <nisshh> thorwil: hehe
[12:23] <humphreybc-mini> thorwil: you're damn right
[12:24] <dutchie> this is the big game then
[12:30] <humphreybc-mini> battle of the gods, dutchie
[12:31] <dutchie> just so you know, i'm supporting slovakia :P
[12:31] <humphreybc-mini> you bitch!
[12:31] <dutchie> nah, i'm neutral really
[12:31] <humphreybc-mini> new zealand man
[12:32] <nisshh> screw NZ! :)
[12:33]  * humphreybc-mini just remembered how boring football really is
[12:33] <dutchie> well, when there's no quality...
[12:33] <nisshh> im supporting: The Republic of Im Shit At Soccer
[12:33] <humphreybc-mini> I bet the USA vs England match was interesting
[12:33] <humphreybc-mini> NOT
[12:33]  * dutchie points out that england had scored by this point
[12:34]  * nisshh is watching The A Team
[12:34] <nisshh> wooooo!
[12:35] <humphreybc-mini> if we beat slovakia, i think our country will explode in riots
[12:35] <dutchie> what's your sport of choice then humphreybc-mini?
[12:35] <humphreybc-mini> hmm
[12:36] <humphreybc-mini> rugby
[12:36] <humphreybc-mini> super 14 or provincial
[12:36] <humphreybc-mini> but i don't really watch much sport
[12:36] <humphreybc-mini> motorsport can be interesting
[12:36] <dutchie> but it can be very dull
[12:36] <humphreybc-mini> yes
[12:36] <humphreybc-mini> most sports can be either
[12:37] <dutchie> yeah
[12:37] <humphreybc-mini> dutchie: what's that omnipresent sound of flies?
[12:37] <dutchie> the vuvuzela
[12:37] <humphreybc-mini> it's like a constant annoying humming
[12:37] <humphreybc-mini> the what
[12:37] <dutchie> it's part of the south african football tradition or something
[12:37] <dutchie> basically a big plastic trumpte
[12:37] <humphreybc-mini> a lot of empty seats in the stadium
[12:38] <dutchie> or trumpet
[12:38] <humphreybc-mini> lol
[12:38] <humphreybc-mini> it's fucking annoying
[12:38] <dutchie> no-one cares about NZ vs Slovakia
[12:38] <dutchie> i don't mind it
[12:38]  * humphreybc-mini wonders if Mark is at the game
[12:38] <dutchie> heh
[12:38] <humphreybc-mini> being south african and rich and all
[12:38] <dutchie> he's probably far too busy
[12:38] <humphreybc-mini> oh wait
[12:38] <humphreybc-mini> he's telling Ivanka off in person :)O
[12:39] <humphreybc-mini> Mark summoned Ivanka to the Isle of Man
[12:39] <dutchie> ooh, a corner
[12:39] <humphreybc-mini> hear, that?
[12:39] <humphreybc-mini> positive start for new zealand
[12:40] <humphreybc-mini> http://twitter.com/ivanka/status/16143381994
[12:40] <humphreybc-mini> http://twitter.com/humphreybc/status/16143508429
[12:40] <humphreybc-mini> http://twitter.com/ivanka/status/16148348405
[12:40] <dutchie> this is one thing where identica is actually better
[12:41] <dutchie> it does conversations
[12:41] <humphreybc-mini> lol
[12:41] <humphreybc-mini> but does everybody in the world with access to a computer use it?
[12:41] <dutchie> it's certainly technically a better platform
[12:41] <dutchie> no
[12:42] <dutchie> blimey
[12:42] <dutchie> this is not a very good match
[12:43] <humphreybc-mini> it just has a gay name
[12:43] <humphreybc-mini> is it open source?
[12:43] <dutchie> yes
[12:43] <humphreybc-mini> looks like all other matches to me
[12:43] <dutchie> see, we're spoilt by the premiership over here
[12:44] <humphreybc-mini> that's why identi.ca is failing then
[12:44] <humphreybc-mini> there's your problem
[12:44] <humphreybc-mini> shouldn't you be working or something dutchie?
[12:44] <dutchie> probably
[12:44] <humphreybc-mini> after all, you're in working hours
[12:44] <dutchie> i'm on exam leave
[12:44] <humphreybc-mini> ah
[12:44]  * humphreybc-mini wonders if mpt is watching the game in Canonical HQ
[12:45] <humphreybc-mini> Slovakia are like, a million times better than us
[12:46] <humphreybc-mini> so we're doing pretty good
[12:46] <dutchie> started reasonably well
[12:46] <dutchie> slovakia are getting the pressure on more now
[12:46] <dutchie> though their attacking is a bit rubbish
[12:47] <humphreybc-mini> our defence is comparable to the turkish defence at Gallipoli
[12:47] <dutchie> that free kick was dreadful
[12:48] <humphreybc-mini> have you got the same commenter as me?
[12:48] <dutchie> probably not
[12:49] <humphreybc-mini> he just talked about new zealand now becoming a football nation and then the woman's under 17 something
[12:49] <dutchie> no then
[12:49] <humphreybc-mini> that buzzing is ridiculously annoying
[12:50] <dutchie> i've filtered it out now
[12:50] <humphreybc-mini> Ryan Nelson yeah!
[12:50] <humphreybc-mini> Rory Fallon!
[12:51] <nisshh> omg! the helicopter scene in The A Team is rediculously bad-ass
[12:51] <dutchie> s/the helicopter scenen in //
[12:52] <humphreybc-mini> lol
[12:52] <humphreybc-mini> ridiculously fucking CG'ed
[12:52] <nisshh> hehe
[12:52] <nisshh> its like the 300 movie, except more bad-ass :)
[12:52] <dutchie> aren't they making a 300 sequel?
[12:53] <humphreybc-mini> doesn't it have bradley cooper?
[12:53] <nisshh> i mean, is it even possible to do a barrel roll in a helicopter?
[12:53] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: no idea
[12:54]  * ubuntujenkins plays some quake live
[12:55] <nisshh> what..., apparently alpha mikey foxtrot means adios mofo's???
[12:55] <dutchie> A M F
[12:55] <dutchie> *shrug*
[12:55] <nisshh> ah hehe
[12:55] <dutchie> always worth knowing the phonetic alphabet :)
[12:56] <dutchie> haha
[12:56] <humphreybc-mini> has he taken his shirt off yet?
[12:56] <humphreybc-mini> I bet they call it 301
[12:56] <dutchie> the BBC commentator just called the NZ midfield "Dad's Army"
[12:57] <humphreybc-mini> nisshh: in some helicopters if you are high enough
[12:57] <humphreybc-mini> this movie sounds terrible
[12:57] <humphreybc-mini> new zealand sucks at faking injuries
[12:57] <humphreybc-mini> YESSS
[12:57] <humphreybc-mini> stupid slovakian striker
[12:58] <dutchie> when NZ do that, you can celebrate
[12:59] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: you should be a soccer commentator
[12:59] <nisshh> :)
[12:59] <dutchie> that could easily have gone in
[13:00]  * humphreybc-mini knows the phonetic alphabet
[13:00] <humphreybc-mini> our defence is the bomb
[13:00] <humphreybc-mini> point is, it didn't
[13:01] <dutchie> it will at some point
[13:02] <humphreybc-mini> stop being so negative
[13:03] <dutchie> you call that defence awesome?
[13:03] <dutchie> haha
[13:04] <dutchie> uh oh
[13:04] <dutchie> i have enraged humphreybc
[13:05] <dutchie> haha
[13:06] <humphreybc> :)
[13:06] <humphreybc> how do I add a nick to the op list?
[13:06] <humphreybc> I want to add humphreybc-mini
[13:07] <dutchie> /msg ChanServ access #ubuntu-manual add humphreybc-mini
[13:07] <dutchie> probably be better to do by hostname
[13:07] <humphreybc> thankyou
[13:07] <humphreybc> and to print the list of people with OP access?
[13:07] <dutchie> access #ubuntu-manual list
[13:07] <humphreybc> they have super slow mo cameras at the world cup
[13:08] <humphreybc> aren't they recording the games in 3D too?
[13:09] <humphreybc> DEFENCE
[13:09] <dutchie> don't know
[13:09] <dutchie> who'd be a goalkeeper?
[13:09] <humphreybc> dunno
[13:09] <humphreybc> someone who doesn't like running much
[13:09] <dutchie> not been a good week for them
[13:10] <humphreybc> goalkeepers in general?
[13:10] <dutchie> at the world cup
[13:10] <humphreybc> ah
[13:11] <dutchie> robert green, the italian goal yesterday, the NZ one hasn't been too good today either
[13:11] <humphreybc> what a shit corner
[13:12]  * dutchie waits for the rage
[13:12] <dutchie> good effort
[13:12] <humphreybc> GOALIE ROCKS
[13:13] <humphreybc> yay
[13:13] <dutchie> i wouldn't say that
[13:13] <humphreybc> we need to get a mutha fudging goal
[13:13] <dutchie> he's missed a couple of crosses he should have picked up
[13:13] <humphreybc> do they do penalty shootouts and all that for 0 - 0 games?
[13:13] <dutchie> not in the group stage
[13:14] <humphreybc> I think a draw would be okay for NZ
[13:14] <humphreybc> anything other than a loss
[13:14] <dutchie> i still think slovakia will score
[13:14] <dutchie> see, goalkeeper
[13:15] <dutchie> that could have ended very badly
[13:15] <humphreybc> goalkeeper = pure win
[13:15] <dutchie> he was lucky
[13:15] <humphreybc> pure, unadulterated win
[13:16] <humphreybc> half time ya'll
[13:16] <humphreybc> how long is half time?
[13:16] <dutchie> 15 mins
[13:16] <dutchie> i'm taking the dog out
[13:17] <humphreybc> hokay
[13:25]  * ubuntujenkins fires up glade
[13:30] <humphreybc> lol
[13:30] <dutchie> 1wow
[13:30] <ubuntujenkins> flan: ping
[13:30] <dutchie> did not expect to turn on the TV to the sight of John Travolta singing
[13:31] <humphreybc> lol
[13:34] <ubuntujenkins> ?style
[13:34] <quickshotdevs> The Quickshot code base tries to follow some conventions  a list of them is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/quickshot/style .
[13:34] <humphreybc> SA and NZ have a better relationship than SA and slovakia
[13:34] <humphreybc> the ref is south african ;P
[13:35] <dutchie> did you get that ridiculous slo-mo shot, humphreybc?
[13:35] <humphreybc> don't you guys just work to PEP8>
[13:36] <humphreybc>  FUCK
[13:36] <dutchie> there it is
[13:36] <humphreybc> FUCKING COCKS
[13:37] <humphreybc> dick.
[13:37] <dutchie> :)
[13:37] <dutchie> it certainly is possible for NZ to equalise
[13:38] <dutchie> how mature
[13:38] <humphreybc> :)
[13:39]  * dutchie wonders if humphreybc understands the offside rule
[13:39] <humphreybc> Even scientists don't understand offside
[13:39] <dutchie> that's a "no" then
[13:39] <dutchie> it's simpler than LBW in cricket
[13:40] <humphreybc> i kinda understand it
[13:40] <humphreybc> but i need to watch the game now
[13:40] <humphreybc> meanwhile, ponder our imminent death: http://twitter.com/d0od/status/16221098974
[13:40] <humphreybc> oh, i'm sorry, just Britain
[13:44] <humphreybc> SUPER SLOW MO
[13:44] <dutchie> Slovakia looking dangerous on the break
[13:44] <humphreybc> but our goalie rocks
[13:45] <dutchie> the commentators are complaining about their long days
[13:45] <humphreybc> hahahaha
[13:46] <dutchie> this referee is certainly keen on keeping the flow of the game
[13:46] <humphreybc> he also wants us to win
[13:47] <dutchie> i'd hope he was neutral
[13:48] <humphreybc> nah
[13:49] <ChrisWoollard> You do realise that there is a ##world-cup channal
[13:49] <dutchie> i hope you saved the old topic somewhere
[13:49] <humphreybc> I did
[13:49] <humphreybc> ChrisWoollard: our channel is better
[13:50] <ChrisWoollard> I am not saying that it isn't
[13:50] <humphreybc> :P
[13:55] <dutchie> oh dear
[13:55] <dutchie> that should have been a goal
[13:55] <dutchie> great defending
[13:56] <humphreybc> NZ is doing fairly well
[13:56] <humphreybc> considering
[13:59] <humphreybc> shit's heating up=
[14:00] <dutchie> take it out of the microwave then
[14:00] <humphreybc> ha.
[14:07] <humphreybc> hey #nzl is trending!
[14:08] <dutchie> !!!!
[14:10] <humphreybc> I love the slow mo close ups of the player faces
[14:11]  * nisshh just thought about that the wrong way :)
[14:12] <nisshh> hehe, "the CIA has rules, our rules are just cooler than yours."
[14:14] <humphreybc> '.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[14:14] <humphreybc> THEY COULD HAVE GOT THAT IN
[14:17] <humphreybc> why do they make a sub with 3 mins left?
[14:17] <dutchie> take up time
[14:18] <humphreybc> oh
[14:19] <humphreybc> DO A FUCKING BICYCLE KICK
[14:19] <humphreybc> YESSS
[14:19] <humphreybc> YESSSS
[14:19] <humphreybc> ANIJTPQAWNIQ=-O2FRMN-=WEFM
[14:19] <humphreybc> AAF
[14:19] <humphreybc> ASFPKL
[14:19] <humphreybc> AK,SF
[14:19] <humphreybc> A,S
[14:19] <humphreybc> FA,S
[14:19] <humphreybc> FPKQ=Q1M2=-FPK,
[14:19] <humphreybc> Ifiic!m!
[14:19] <humphreybc> YESSS
[14:19] <dutchie> he'll get in trouble for taking his shirt off
[14:19] <humphreybc> YESSS!
[14:19] <humphreybc> WWOOOOOHOO
[14:20] <nisshh> dutchie: is it just me or is humphreybc getting very passionate about this?
[14:20] <dutchie> i know
[14:20] <nisshh> hehe
[14:23] <nisshh> humphreybc: did they truly honestly score or are you just being silly?
[14:23] <humphreybc> they scored
[14:23] <nisshh> dutchie: did they score?
[14:24] <dutchie> yes
[14:24] <nisshh> ok, humphreybc i believe you :)
[14:24] <humphreybc> http://twitpic.com/1wzieo
[14:25] <nisshh> meh
[14:27]  * ubuntujenkins can't find the option he wants in glade it must be here somewhere
[14:34] <humphreybc> so dutchie, did you enjoy that game?
[14:36] <dutchie> wasn't great
[14:36] <dutchie> picked up at the end
[14:37] <nisshh> i think humphreybc did :)
[14:59] <flan> ubuntujenkins, pong.
[14:59] <ubuntujenkins> hey flan can you do a file that opens up a window pleas once i understand it i cna do the rest
[14:59] <ubuntujenkins> if that made any sense
[15:00] <flan> It... really didn't.
[15:01] <ubuntujenkins> I am doing the gui and would like to avoid going the though the work flow to check every window can you do a python file that can call a window out of order
[15:01]  * ubuntujenkins is rather tired from exams
[15:02] <flan> Obviously. You're usually a lot more coherent. =P
[15:02] <ubuntujenkins> yea i am never good at explaining stuff
[15:02] <ubuntujenkins> does that now make sense?
[15:03] <dutchie> you want a python script that opens an empty window?
[15:03] <flan> For the most part, each popup can just have its own .glade file.
[15:03] <flan> You'll give each one an __init__(self, ...) function, if not already provided, and use ... to transfer session variables.
[15:03] <dutchie> oh, ignore me
[15:04] <flan> When invoked as part of the workflow, the parent window will pass those values.
[15:04] <flan> When testing, you'll seed them in the if __name__ == '__main__' section.
[15:04] <flan> Following thus far?
[15:04] <ubuntujenkins> hmm no i think i should be more awake
[15:05] <flan> I'll still be here when you're more alert, then.
[15:05] <flan> I'm planning to start CSS work on the server tonight.
[15:05] <flan> My tonight.
[15:05] <ubuntujenkins> ok cool I will try and have a nap and talk later thanks
[15:06] <flan> I hope you feel rested soon. Exams can be exhausting.
[15:06] <ubuntujenkins> yea they are
[15:06]  * dutchie goes to catch a bus
[16:25] <hannie> String 1099: Now click \menu{More Info\then Install} to install the application.
[16:25] <hannie> I think this should be: Now click \button{More Info\then Install} to  install the application.
[18:32] <ubuntujenkins> pleia2: am i ok to set up an user account on the learning team moddle. I would like to see what it is like
[18:33] <pleia2> ubuntujenkins: yeah go for it, you should be able to use your launchpad id as an openid account
[18:33] <ubuntujenkins> pleia2: cool thanks I will, just interested to see what it is like
[18:33] <pleia2> ubuntujenkins: if you need admin, just let me know
[18:33] <pleia2> :)
[18:33] <ubuntujenkins> thanks pleia2 , don't think i will need admin :)
[18:38] <ubuntujenkins> pleia2: I thought this was the case but i use moddle nearly every day. my uni has it it is called "learn"
[18:39] <pleia2> ubuntujenkins: cool, I know of a few schools that use it (I support one install at a school in philadelphia), and canonical used (uses?) it for their online for-pay courses
[18:39] <ubuntujenkins> does sort of do what i was thinking but not a shiney
[18:39] <pleia2> the interface is a bit difficult to use
[18:40] <pleia2> but there are lots of guides on workflow online, which helps if you can take the time to learn to use it
[18:41] <ubuntujenkins> it works but, there is something about it that is not so good looking or exciting
[18:41] <ubuntujenkins> and my lectures struggle to add files
[18:42]  * pleia2 nods
[18:42] <ubuntujenkins> can  i enrol my self in courses so i can look at the material?
[18:42] <pleia2> yep
[18:46] <pleia2> the inkscape and gimp course is a good example
[18:46] <ubuntujenkins> i need to learn those
[18:47] <ubuntujenkins> wow the gimp one does look good
[18:56] <ubuntujenkins> these tutorials are really good
[20:31] <c7p> hello all
[20:33] <c7p> somebody change the channels info (from "Congratulating New Zealand" to something more relevant to channel's purpose :P )
[20:33] <dutchie> guess whose fault that is
[20:33] <dutchie> not sure what it was before, humphreybc said he saved it somewhere
[20:58] <c7p> godbyk-sagan: ping
[21:44] <c7p> night all