| TheMuso | grrr Debian have just made jack stuff a whole lot more difficult. :S | 00:39 |
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| rlameiro | TheMuso: in what way? | 00:48 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: They are moving jack2 into a new source package called jack2, and jack-audio-connectino-kit is being reverted back to jack1. | 00:49 |
| TheMuso | connection | 00:49 |
| rlameiro | 2 parallel jack? | 00:49 |
| rlameiro | so, if we sync, we would have jack1 only | 00:50 |
| rlameiro | and need to ask a new propositionf for jack2 into main? | 00:50 |
| rlameiro | TheMuso: that is not so good news | 00:51 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: No its not, and you hit it on the head. | 00:51 |
| TheMuso | I would have been ok if they took this path initially. | 00:51 |
| rlameiro | TheMuso: after all the work, we need to do it again?? | 00:51 |
| TheMuso | But to go one way, and then change around and do it another a month or so down the track is a pain. | 00:51 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: Yep. | 00:52 |
| TheMuso | :S | 00:52 |
| rlameiro | TheMuso: So, when does debian freeze? | 00:52 |
| rlameiro | i tought they already frozen it... | 00:52 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: I don't know. | 00:52 |
| rlameiro | TheMuso: well, i think we need to lower expectations for maverick then | 00:53 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: We still have time to make it all happen, its just a pain in the backside | 00:53 |
| rlameiro | TheMuso: well, if i can help in something, please tell me | 00:55 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: thanks | 00:56 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: We need jack2 to be in universe first, that will probably be a week or so. Only once we have jack2, will I update jack-audio-connectino-kit from Debian. | 00:56 |
| rlameiro | TheMuso: well, i will need to test it, so i can implement the configurations into ubuntustudio controls | 00:57 |
| rlameiro | TheMuso: will it be on maverick daily builds? | 00:58 |
| TheMuso | rlameiro: Not for a while | 00:58 |
| rlameiro | ok | 00:58 |
| ScottL | debian import freeze is on june 24th | 01:16 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, just as rlameiro said, if there is anything i can do to help please let me know | 01:17 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, did debian say why they decided to do this? | 01:17 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: They are transitioning jack packages such that people can choose which jack implementation they use. | 01:31 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: We can still request syncs after DIF. | 01:34 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, is there a good reason to allow choosing which jack version? | 01:37 |
| ScottL | should we be doing it too? do we have developer support to do so? | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: We will get the packaging for it from Debian with no extra work on our part, however we should stick with shipping jack2 by default. | 01:40 |
| TheMuso | i.e jack2 in main, tied to pulse/firewire. | 01:40 |
| ScottL | that sounds like a very good idea...i hope it is TheMuso ;) | 01:43 |
| ScottL | but i do have a consideration: i presume then that jack1 will be available to install if one prefers it over jack2 | 01:45 |
| ScottL | i wonder how installation and calling the application will work | 01:45 |
| ScottL | will the user be required to call 'jack1' and 'jack2' respectively to execute jack1 and jack2 | 01:47 |
| ScottL | or will it be a drop in replacement | 01:47 |
| ScottL | which then gets into dependencies (hard vs soft) as i recall trying to remove ardour also removed jack, et al | 01:48 |
| ScottL | will one be able to remove jack2 to install jack1 without having to remove all audio apps and settings | 01:48 |
| ScottL | but i don't think many people (or at least a *very* select subset) will want jack1 since it will effectively break compatibility with pulse | 01:54 |
| ScottL | unless performance with jack2 is horrid | 01:54 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: it will be a drop-in replacement, so you switch what jackd- package you install, and the other one will be removed | 02:20 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, has qjackctl been moderated yet to remove the wrapper script that executes pasuspender? | 04:29 |
| * ScottL has tried to test maverick but installations have failed so far, here's hoping for tomorrow and a new build :) | 04:30 | |
| ScottL | in good news, quadrispro helped fix the bitmeter uninstallable binary situation and abogani fixed up the -preempt kernel uninstallable binary problem | 04:39 |
| ScottL | hopefully this means no email from colin watson on the morrow and a officially released testing ISO from the qa tracker | 04:40 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: Not as far as I know of. | 05:06 |
| TheMuso | And I haven't seen anything for it in maverick-changes. | 05:07 |
| scott-work | abogani2: the -preempt kernel was fixed, thanks! | 12:45 |
| scott-work | no email from colin watson this morning :) | 12:45 |
| scott-work | TheMuso: i found the web page that persia had linked to me about all files in an ISO, it wasn't the .manifest file rather it was the .files file | 12:47 |
| scott-work | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20100614/maverick-alternate-i386.list | 12:47 |
| scott-work | errr .list file (not .file file) | 12:47 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 12:48 |
| abogani2 | scott-work: :-) | 14:01 |
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