[09:12] <airlynx> I'm just getting comfortable with making music with Ubuntu Studio, but I always find my music is lacking something, I would like to hear some samples of what others have made with this and maybe some explanations on how they made it, where would be a good place to start?
[09:34] <mothersofinventi> I'd like to troubleshoot my audio I/O, I really need it till today 16:00pm, someone could help me please?
[09:36] <mothersofinventi> is QAMIX a good place to start?
[09:47] <mothersofinventi> someone could help me please ?
[09:49] <mothersofinventi> how to simply figure out if the inputs are okay in ubuntu studio?
[09:53] <mothersofinventi> come on, I know I may be forgeting something very stupid, but I'm not sure and I need it so much!
[09:55] <airlynx> I don't think anybody's around, I asked a question about an hour ago and got no reply, my experience with I/O is extemely limited and I'm afraid I wouldn't be much help
[09:56] <airlynx> lol
[09:56] <airlynx> patience is a virtue
[10:02] <mothersofinventi> I'd really could use some help...
[10:02] <airlynx> well you can describe what's going on and I might be able to provide some insight, but like I said I'm not really a guru by any means
[10:05] <airlynx> mothersofinventi: have you checked your input levels and mute options with alsamix
[10:06] <mothersofinventi> yes, it seems all okay  in alsamix, but I can't hear any sound from mic...
[10:09] <airlynx> if you use something like meterbridge or bitscope you may be able to see if the mic is transmitting anything at all, if you're running jack you can try hooking the input and output together to see if anything comes out of the speakers
[10:11] <airlynx> has it worked in the past, or is this the first time you're trying it?
[10:13] <mothersofinventi> it's the first time I'm trying it, should I start jack?
[10:14] <airlynx> it's not always necessary to run jack but sometimes it can help to find the problem, using jack you can hook your system output to bitscope and see if you're mic is doing anything at all
[10:16] <airlynx> I've had a problem with my mic input for a while now, but that's because I've installed Ubuntu Studio on my laptop that has an unsupported soundcard, I was lucky to have any sound at all
[10:16] <mothersofinventi> I'm running a clean install of ubuntu studio, I can start jack but I don't know where bitscope is.
[10:16] <mothersofinventi> and, yes, I'n in a laptop.
[10:17] <mothersofinventi> I'm*
[10:17] <airlynx> I have an older installation of Ubuntu Studio, I don't know if bitscope is bundled with it anymore, do you have meterbridge?
[10:18] <airlynx> (if anybody else wants to jump in on this conversation, please feel free to do so! lol)
[10:19] <AutoStatic> I didn't catch all of the conversation
[10:19] <AutoStatic> An onboard mic that doesn't work?
[10:19] <airlynx> mothersofinventi is having a problem with his mic input, doesn't seem to be getting anything from it, that's about all you missed
[10:19] <AutoStatic> Ah ok
[10:20] <airlynx> I'm no guru
[10:20] <AutoStatic> Best tool to troubleshoot with would be alsamixer
[10:20] <mothersofinventi> yes, I've just started meterbridge, but it doesn't move at all.
[10:20] <airlynx> what type of laptop do you have?
[10:21] <mothersofinventi> a "NEXTERA"...
[10:21] <airlynx> never heard of it
[10:22] <AutoStatic> What does lspci in a terminal output?
[10:22] <AutoStatic> You could post it on http://pastebin.com/
[10:22] <mothersofinventi> ok, I'll try lspci, wait a bit.
[10:23] <AutoStatic> And when you open alsamixer, there are no 'MM' underneath any Mic related sliders?
[10:23] <mothersofinventi> http://pastebin.com/2TNY2Vvj
[10:24] <mothersofinventi> yes, there is an MM...
[10:24] <AutoStatic> Thanks
[10:24] <AutoStatic> ICH7, that should be fully supported
[10:24] <AutoStatic> Ok, MM means muted
[10:24] <mothersofinventi> what should I do?
[10:24] <AutoStatic> With your arrow keys select the muted strip
[10:25] <mothersofinventi> ok
[10:25] <AutoStatic> And press m to unmute
[10:25] <AutoStatic> Just unmute everything
[10:25] <AutoStatic> To see all strips, press F5
[10:26] <mothersofinventi> ok, now there's a LL, but I still hear no sound...
[10:26] <AutoStatic> And then get rid of all the M&M's
[10:26] <AutoStatic> LL?
[10:26] <AutoStatic> Shoudl be 00
[10:27] <mothersofinventi> okay, ppl, you are the best, everything is fine, now...
[10:27] <airlynx> lol, I have no idea what LL means
[10:27] <AutoStatic> Me neither
[10:27] <mothersofinventi> ;-)
[10:27] <AutoStatic> I can get no LL in AlsaMixer
[10:27] <mothersofinventi> LL is the oposite of MM...
[10:27] <airlynx> I was just trying, lol
[10:27]  * AutoStatic sings along with Satisfaction
[10:28] <mothersofinventi> it means it is sendind signal.
[10:28] <airlynx> Autostatic, is there somewhere you checked to see that ICH7 is supported or do you just know that?
[10:28] <AutoStatic> ICH7 is fairly old
[10:28] <AutoStatic> And should work with the snd-hda-intel kernel module
[10:29] <mothersofinventi> thank you ppl, bye!!
[10:29] <airlynx> I have all sorts of funkiness with my soundcard sometimes, I can have output from my speakers and headphones at the same time sometimes, lol
[10:29] <AutoStatic> Then you probably have a newer chipset
[10:29] <AutoStatic> With Jack Sensing
[10:29] <AutoStatic> There were issues with that
[10:30] <airlynx> I dunno, it's strange, mic input has never worked
[10:30] <airlynx> that's why I was a little lost in helping him, I was just going through some of the steps I've gone through in the past
[10:31] <AutoStatic> :)
[10:31] <airlynx> http://pastebin.com/JxAtjJZL <-- my lspci
[10:31] <airlynx> ICH8?
[10:32] <AutoStatic> hmmmm, ICH8
[10:32] <AutoStatic> Don't know if that chipset has Jack Sensing
[10:32] <AutoStatic> Or maybe it's something completey different
[10:33] <AutoStatic> It should work
[10:34] <airlynx> I've been through alsamixer before and don't see anything wrong, tried all combinations I could think of, but nothing
[10:34] <airlynx> I have a dual boot system and mic works fine in Windows
[10:34] <AutoStatic> Ah, then it should work in Ubuntu too
[10:36] <AutoStatic> Maybe you could post a screenshot of AlsaMixer somewhere?
[10:36] <AutoStatic> There's a pastebin for screenshots also
[10:36] <AutoStatic> forgot the exact URL
[10:36] <AutoStatic> And then a screenshot of AlsaMixer after you pressed F5 so it shows all strips
[10:37] <airlynx> looking for screenbin, lol
[10:39] <airlynx> ah screw it, uploaded to my personal site, lol
[10:39] <airlynx> http://airlynx.sitesled.com/alsamixer.png
[10:43] <airlynx> everything else works fine, I've been using it this way for about a year, just never had mic input
[10:48] <airlynx> I just realized that I had my jack inputs backwards in the screenshot, hooked vu bridge up to the speakers, I switched them around and mic input is just putting out steady noise if I turn the input volumes up, any suggestions?
[11:04] <airlynx> holy crap, I just fixed it
[11:04] <airlynx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043568
[11:05] <airlynx> amazing what a few minutes dedicated to google will do
[11:06] <airlynx> I had to edit my alsa config to include the model of my laptop, and when I restarted alsa and pulseaudio it just worked
[11:08] <AutoStatic> :)
[11:08] <AutoStatic> Yeah sorry, I'm at work and got some questions
[11:09] <AutoStatic> So now it works, cool :)
[11:09] <airlynx> I love that feeling, this is why most people hate linux, and why I love it
[11:10] <AutoStatic> He he
[11:10] <AutoStatic> :D
[11:10] <airlynx> yup, thanks for inspiring me to spend some time actually looking at it, lol
[11:10] <AutoStatic> You're welcome
[11:12] <airlynx> well I'm out of here then, gonna go do some recording
[18:09] <natschil> Hello. I would like to get jackd working on lucid, without installing the whole ubuntustudio... someone in #ubuntu recommended I install some of the ubuntustudio meta-packages... does anyone know which ones these would be?
[18:24] <natschil> Hello. This question is probably really easy to answer, I just can't seem to find the answer anywhere... What is the name of the ubuntu-studio-ppa so that I can install ubuntustudio packages onto "normal" ubuntu
[18:24] <natschil> ?
[21:49] <jussi> !vanilla | natschil
[21:50] <natschil> jussi: thanks!
[21:50] <jussi> :)
[22:38] <om3> hi
[22:38] <om3> anyone here?
[22:42] <om3> hi acerimmer
[22:42] <om3> so
[22:43] <acerimmer_> hey
[22:43] <om3> do you know this proggie "Impro-Visor"?
[22:43] <acerimmer_> like i said, the REAL party is over on #ubuntu  and impro-visor is unknown to me .  lemme snapresearch
[22:44] <om3> well, it's about making it run with midi
[22:44] <acerimmer_> om3: ok so this package is NOT in the ubuntu repositories is it?  and there ARE repo'd music tools available?
[22:44] <om3> no, there's nothing equivalent
[22:44] <om3> and the programme itself does run
[22:45] <om3> the problem is timidity
[22:45] <om3> i need to connect improvisor to some midi device
[22:45] <om3> and i used to use timidity
[22:45] <acerimmer_> om3: just not linking with the timidity.  OK, (1) idk.  (2) suggest the multimedia forums
[22:45] <om3> together with aconnect and the snd_virmidi modules
[22:46] <acerimmer_> om3: all kinds of timidity threads over there.
[22:46] <acerimmer_> om3: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=73900962
[22:46] <om3> yea, read a lot of them
[22:47] <om3> but nothing seems to fit for me
[22:47] <acerimmer_> om3: dang.  you're just 8 steps aheada me.
[22:47] <om3> because im not even sure if timidity is the problem
[22:47] <acerimmer_> om3: any chance of support from the package maintainers?
[22:47] <om3> just thought, might be someone here who encountered similar problems
[22:47] <om3> and found a solution
[22:48] <om3> no clue...
[22:48] <acerimmer_> om3: sorry man.  keep looking.  maybe even send a note to the ubuntu studio list?
[22:48] <om3> maybe i should start a topic in ubuntuforums
[22:48] <om3> yup
[22:48] <acerimmer_> ok.  good luck.
[22:49] <om3> well, thanks for your attention :-)
[22:54] <rlameiro> om3: try to use aconnectgui to connect the midi paths to whatever midi player you want
[22:56] <om3> hmmm... should it be any different than aconnect?
[22:58] <om3> now, i don't even see timidity anymore in aconnect, nor in aconnectgui
[22:59] <om3> though i just did restart the timidity server
[23:06] <om3>  pulseaudio[2990]: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: "device=hw:2"): initialization failed.
[23:06] <om3> that's in syslog
[23:08] <om3> well i think i have to sleep now
[23:08] <om3> good night everyone
[23:08] <om3> or whatever time it is in your region :-)
[23:19] <ScottL> rlameiro, do you prefer to use aconnectgui over patchage?
[23:19]  * ScottL asks because he's never seen any recommend aconnectgui and has only seen people mention patchage when not using qjackctl
[23:20] <ScottL> errr, anyone, not any
[23:27] <rlameiro> ScottL: well, i dont know if patchage works without jack
[23:27] <rlameiro> so i didnt wanted to give a bad advise
[23:31] <ScottL> good thinking
[23:32] <ScottL> i don't know either if patchage works without jack and quite frankly i didn't think about it either
[23:32] <ScottL> i might try that out later tonight :)
[23:32] <ScottL> i was mainly curious (and maybe learned something as well) because i didn't know that people actually used aconnectgui