| td123 | I know it's in the topic, but is xorg *still* broken? | 01:01 |
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| Sarvatt | only if you have proprietary drivers installed | 01:02 |
| Sarvatt | also - nouveau has 3D support in maverick now in libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental | 01:03 |
| * ajmitch will enjoy the magic smoke tonight then | 01:05 | |
| psusi | anyone else have suspend broken using the current maverick kernels? display just doesn't power back on after resume... works when I switch to the daily mainline kernel build | 01:20 |
| psusi | damn it takes forever to build the kernel these days... | 01:29 |
| IdleOne | HTT-Bird: since you plan on installing the current kernel in maverick this would be a better place for support | 02:01 |
| HTT-Bird | right. :) | 02:01 |
| IdleOne | ask and be patient :) | 02:01 |
| HTT-Bird | will give it a shot. | 02:02 |
| IdleOne | oh take not that xorg in maverick is broken (works for me) | 02:02 |
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| HTT-Bird | alright: I have what basically amounts to a modified Ubuntu 9.04 system right now. I need to install a >=2.6.34 kernel as an alternate kernel in order to be able to take readings from my hwmon chip. I was figuring that the easiest way to go would be to use Maverick's kernel image; however, would installing a kernel that new alongside an older userland cause trouble? | 02:25 |
| bjsnider | your graphics driver may run into a problem with mismatched api/abi with your xorg/mesa system, or may not even build | 02:28 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: I am using the nVidia blob, so would that still be an issue? | 02:29 |
| bjsnider | certainly | 02:29 |
| bjsnider | i doubt it would build at all | 02:29 |
| HTT-Bird | so I'd have to pull a newer version of the nvidia stuff I take it? | 02:29 |
| bjsnider | no | 02:29 |
| HTT-Bird | ...or I could just limp along on nv lol | 02:29 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: so...what should I do about the issue of gfx being a problem? | 02:30 |
| bjsnider | why don't you compile the driver you need into your current kernel instead? | 02:30 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: because it is NOT AVAILABLE for a 2.6.28 kernel | 02:31 |
| bjsnider | i mean for lmsensors | 02:31 |
| HTT-Bird | I'd have to backport the blasted thing 6 kernel releases | 02:31 |
| HTT-Bird | so I'd take it that you'd rather I backported the driver? :p | 02:31 |
| bjsnider | wel, you can waste time complaining about it or you can get started... | 02:31 |
| funkyHat | I'm hobbling along on vesa at the moment ⢁( I just had a look at downgrading to lucid's version of xorg but that doesn't appear to be doable | 02:31 |
| bjsnider | you have no other option really | 02:32 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: alright, I have the commit for that driver up on git.kernel.org | 02:35 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: does kernel-package automatically take care of Ubuntu-ifying the kernel it's building? | 02:38 |
| bjsnider | just install the kernel-headers from the archive | 02:40 |
| bjsnider | you could use dkms to install the driver | 02:41 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: hrm. how do I get from "git diff of kernel sources" to "something dkms can swallow"? | 02:42 |
| bjsnider | take a look at how your nvidia driver is handled | 02:44 |
| bjsnider | have a look at /usr/src | 02:45 |
| bjsnider | it should become clear | 02:45 |
| bjsnider | you'll have to research the dkms commands though | 02:45 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: I can see that dkms can swallow an ordinary patch....I assume it can swallow git diff's too? | 02:45 |
| bjsnider | you mean you want to create the driver from a patch? | 02:46 |
| bjsnider | i dunno | 02:46 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: yeah. I have the driver in the form of a patch to the kernel source tree. | 02:47 |
| bjsnider | is it that small? | 02:47 |
| HTT-Bird | 1 new file in Documentation/, 1 file for the driver, 2 build-harness patches, and a patch to MAINTAINERS | 02:48 |
| HTT-Bird | so yeah, it is kinda that small :) | 02:48 |
| HTT-Bird | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=patch;h=d58de038728221f780e11d50b32aa40d420c1150 <-- maybe this'd help? :) | 02:49 |
| * HTT-Bird pings bjsnider | 03:02 | |
| bjsnider | well, i don't know if a patch would work with dkms or if it needs the raw files. give it a try | 03:04 |
| HTT-Bird | bjsnider: it seems to want the raw files | 03:29 |
| HTT-Bird | but that's not too hard to accomodate. :) | 03:29 |
| bjsnider | you can, apparently install the newer kernel outright if you want. the blob should build with it | 03:30 |
| HTT-Bird | true, I doubt backporting the driver will be horribly hard though. | 03:33 |
| DrHalan | what is the title supposed to mean? shouldn't i upgrade even if dependencies are okay nowß | 06:36 |
| DrHalan | mh not really sure if i shut reastart now .. | 07:27 |
| DrHalan | xorg upgrade went fine.. | 07:27 |
| sylon | whats the best way to downgrade a pkg when some update to it is broken? | 08:53 |
| Ian_corne | will maverick be sporting x 1.9? | 09:15 |
| Ian_corne | found out, yes :) | 09:21 |
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| dORSY | mv /work/dorsy/home/dorsy | 14:41 |
| bjsnider | !find /usr/bin/ffprobe lucid | 14:57 |
| ubottu | File /usr/bin/ffprobe found in ffprobe | 14:57 |
| DrHalan | is xorg still broken for anyone? | 15:38 |
| DrHalan | i suggest we change the topic | 15:38 |
| psusi | xorg was workign for me last night... up until my maverick installation got hosed when I tried to make an lvm snapshot and it hung | 15:38 |
| DrHalan | mh | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | it is still held back so yes it is broken | 15:40 |
| DrHalan | what is held back? | 15:44 |
| Ian_corne | gnomefreak: not for me | 15:47 |
| Ian_corne | what is causing the conflict? | 15:47 |
| gnomefreak | Ian_corne: off hand i dont recall but i will look as soon as i finish what im working on | 15:48 |
| gnomefreak | ahh | 15:49 |
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| gnomefreak | better | 15:51 |
| Ian_corne | hehe :p | 15:51 |
| gnomefreak | now lets see if it really is fixed | 15:51 |
| Ian_corne | well it is for me | 15:52 |
| * gnomefreak away for a bit | 15:52 | |
| gnomefreak | thanks for the heads up | 15:52 |
| funkyHat | Anyone know how I can downgrade all of my X packages? ⢁D | 17:15 |
| yofel | make sure you get the older versions from somewhere and use dpkg / aptitude / synaptic? | 17:17 |
| yofel | funkyHat: then again, why do you want to downgrade them? | 17:17 |
| funkyHat | yofel: because the current ones are broken ⢁) | 17:18 |
| yofel | hm, haven't updated today yet, but right now it works fine here | 17:18 |
| funkyHat | The "get older ones from somewhere" part is what I'm struggling with, they don't appear to be in the archive anymore | 17:18 |
| funkyHat | yofel: my card is an ati r800 | 17:18 |
| yofel | no, either you have them in /var/cache/apt/archives or you need to fetch the lucid packages | 17:18 |
| yofel | oh | 17:19 |
| yofel | heh | 17:19 |
| yofel | vesa? | 17:19 |
| funkyHat | yes vesa works fine, if 1280x1024 is fine... | 17:19 |
| funkyHat | And only single headed | 17:19 |
| funkyHat | mm, I tried adding lucid's repos so they'd appear in aptitude, but it didn't seem to work, I guess I'll grab the packages and install them manually | 17:21 |
| yofel | they should appear after refreshing the package cache | 17:22 |
| yofel | you have to select the older version by hand of course | 17:22 |
| funkyHat | by pressing u (or aptitude update) you mean? I have done that a few times ⢁) | 17:22 |
| yofel | yeah, then go to the package you want, press enter, go to the bottom, select the version you want and press + | 17:23 |
| yofel | resolve the conflicts by downgrading all other packages and install them | 17:23 |
| funkyHat | Yeah, I'm only seeing 1:7.5+6ubuntu1 and the same with ~xorgedgers3 | 17:24 |
| yofel | hm, I have lucid enabled here and I can see all versions fine | 17:25 |
| funkyHat | Maybe I got my sources.list wrong... | 17:25 |
| yofel | hm, aptitude shows this here (the middle one comes from debian) | 17:26 |
| yofel | p 1:7.5+5ubuntu1 | 17:26 |
| yofel | p 1:7.5+6 | 17:26 |
| yofel | i 1:7.5+6ubuntu1 | 17:26 |
| funkyHat | Yeah, that's the problem, I only added lucid-security -_- | 17:26 |
| funkyHat | aha! | 17:33 |
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| h00k | Oh, the /topic has changed, does this mean xorg upgrades are safe? | 18:03 |
| yofel | anyone else got a failing kernel upgrade? | 18:52 |
| yofel | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-3-generic | 18:52 |
| yofel | Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub. | 18:52 |
| yofel | Invalid parameter, 2.6.35-3-generic | 18:52 |
| yofel | User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub] exited with value 1 | 18:53 |
| NoelJB | Maverick won't boot after this AM's updates. wait-for-root not found in /init. Anyone else seeing this? | 19:08 |
| NoelJB | Looks like bug 360378 | 19:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 360378 in linux (Ubuntu) "Gave up waiting for root device after upgrade then busybox console" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360378 | 19:09 |
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| coz_ | hey guys.. I dont have maverick installed on a dual monitor system... is the wallpaper issues solved ? | 20:19 |
| coz_ | ie... all options for wallpaper....scale etc etc simply mirror the image on both monitors and the "span" option does nothing more than center the image "between" each monitor | 20:20 |
| coz_ | also the issue I had on lucid with multiple partitioned external drive not un mounting properly does not occur on kde o0 | 20:22 |
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| === jpds changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: WARNING: amd64 users should not upgrade now. We are seeing initramfs errors, which lead to broken boots. | Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | Alpha 1 Released! See http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1. | ||
| jpds | Good day. | 21:59 |
| jonathonf | does anyone know which version of initramfs-tools caused the problem? | 22:02 |
| jpds | jonathonf: 0.96.1ubuntu3. | 22:03 |
| jonathonf | ta, i'll check my installed version | 22:03 |
| jpds | Fix is en route as we speak. | 22:03 |
| jonathonf | great | 22:03 |
| h00k | xorg 'should' be okay with an nvidia, yes? | 22:04 |
| === jpds changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: WARNING: amd64 users should not upgrade. We are seeing initramfs errors (with 0.96.1ubuntu3), which lead to broken boots / fix en route | Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | Alpha 1 Released! See http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alph | ||
| jonathonf | h00k: yes | 22:05 |
| jonathonf | should be ;) | 22:05 |
| * jonathonf is still playing with fglrx | 22:05 | |
| wtf1 | what is partial upgrade? | 22:45 |
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| Sarvatt | h00k: only nvidia-current, the rest dont support xserver 1.8 | 22:56 |
| h00k | Sarvatt: okay. I'm running the proprietary nvidia driver on my laptop | 22:57 |
| Sarvatt | it depends what driver you're using, theres 3 different versions | 22:57 |
| h00k | Right, whatever the latest one is these days, 19*.** | 22:58 |
| bjsnider | well, the very latest one in the 256.29 driver in the x-updates ppa | 23:01 |
| Sarvatt | yeah the latest works fine, its just 173.xx and 96.xx that dont work | 23:01 |
| h00k | oh, holy smokes. I didn't realize it was that high. | 23:01 |
| h00k | Last I remember it was 195, I think | 23:01 |
| h00k | !info nvidia-current maverick | 23:04 |
| ubottu | nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 195.36.24-0ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 22757 kB, installed size 70860 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) | 23:04 |
| h00k | yeah. that's me. | 23:04 |
| sidHart | can't boot as it's dropping to initramfs..how to recover? | 23:30 |
| Giles1 | QCad is missing fonts since upgrade to lucid, (its think its a QT3 application) | 23:31 |
| Giles1 | how can I fix it? | 23:32 |
| Giles1 | ah, I think I need to install qcad-data | 23:34 |
| Giles1 | yep that fixed it. | 23:34 |
| arcane | how do I read the channel topic? | 23:58 |
| arcane | !topic | 23:59 |
| ubottu | Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 23:59 |
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