[01:01] I know it's in the topic, but is xorg *still* broken? [01:02] only if you have proprietary drivers installed [01:03] also - nouveau has 3D support in maverick now in libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental [01:05] * ajmitch will enjoy the magic smoke tonight then [01:20] anyone else have suspend broken using the current maverick kernels? display just doesn't power back on after resume... works when I switch to the daily mainline kernel build [01:29] damn it takes forever to build the kernel these days... [02:01] HTT-Bird: since you plan on installing the current kernel in maverick this would be a better place for support [02:01] right. :) [02:01] ask and be patient :) [02:02] will give it a shot. [02:02] oh take not that xorg in maverick is broken (works for me) === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity [02:25] alright: I have what basically amounts to a modified Ubuntu 9.04 system right now. I need to install a >=2.6.34 kernel as an alternate kernel in order to be able to take readings from my hwmon chip. I was figuring that the easiest way to go would be to use Maverick's kernel image; however, would installing a kernel that new alongside an older userland cause trouble? [02:28] your graphics driver may run into a problem with mismatched api/abi with your xorg/mesa system, or may not even build [02:29] bjsnider: I am using the nVidia blob, so would that still be an issue? [02:29] certainly [02:29] i doubt it would build at all [02:29] so I'd have to pull a newer version of the nvidia stuff I take it? [02:29] no [02:29] ...or I could just limp along on nv lol [02:30] bjsnider: so...what should I do about the issue of gfx being a problem? [02:30] why don't you compile the driver you need into your current kernel instead? [02:31] bjsnider: because it is NOT AVAILABLE for a 2.6.28 kernel [02:31] i mean for lmsensors [02:31] I'd have to backport the blasted thing 6 kernel releases [02:31] so I'd take it that you'd rather I backported the driver? :p [02:31] wel, you can waste time complaining about it or you can get started... [02:31] I'm hobbling along on vesa at the moment ⢁( I just had a look at downgrading to lucid's version of xorg but that doesn't appear to be doable [02:32] you have no other option really [02:35] bjsnider: alright, I have the commit for that driver up on git.kernel.org [02:38] bjsnider: does kernel-package automatically take care of Ubuntu-ifying the kernel it's building? [02:40] just install the kernel-headers from the archive [02:41] you could use dkms to install the driver [02:42] bjsnider: hrm. how do I get from "git diff of kernel sources" to "something dkms can swallow"? [02:44] take a look at how your nvidia driver is handled [02:45] have a look at /usr/src [02:45] it should become clear [02:45] you'll have to research the dkms commands though [02:45] bjsnider: I can see that dkms can swallow an ordinary patch....I assume it can swallow git diff's too? [02:46] you mean you want to create the driver from a patch? [02:46] i dunno [02:47] bjsnider: yeah. I have the driver in the form of a patch to the kernel source tree. [02:47] is it that small? [02:48] 1 new file in Documentation/, 1 file for the driver, 2 build-harness patches, and a patch to MAINTAINERS [02:48] so yeah, it is kinda that small :) [02:49] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=patch;h=d58de038728221f780e11d50b32aa40d420c1150 <-- maybe this'd help? :) [03:02] * HTT-Bird pings bjsnider [03:04] well, i don't know if a patch would work with dkms or if it needs the raw files. give it a try [03:29] bjsnider: it seems to want the raw files [03:29] but that's not too hard to accomodate. :) [03:30] you can, apparently install the newer kernel outright if you want. the blob should build with it [03:33] true, I doubt backporting the driver will be horribly hard though. [06:36] what is the title supposed to mean? shouldn't i upgrade even if dependencies are okay nowß [07:27] mh not really sure if i shut reastart now .. [07:27] xorg upgrade went fine.. [08:53] whats the best way to downgrade a pkg when some update to it is broken? [09:15] will maverick be sporting x 1.9? [09:21] found out, yes :) === dorsy is now known as dORSY [14:41] mv /work/dorsy/home/dorsy [14:57] !find /usr/bin/ffprobe lucid [14:57] File /usr/bin/ffprobe found in ffprobe [15:38] is xorg still broken for anyone? [15:38] i suggest we change the topic [15:38] xorg was workign for me last night... up until my maverick installation got hosed when I tried to make an lvm snapshot and it hung [15:39] mh [15:40] it is still held back so yes it is broken [15:44] what is held back? [15:47] gnomefreak: not for me [15:47] what is causing the conflict? [15:48] Ian_corne: off hand i dont recall but i will look as soon as i finish what im working on [15:49] ahh === gnomefreak changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | Alpha 1 Released! See http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1. [15:51] better [15:51] hehe :p [15:51] now lets see if it really is fixed [15:52] well it is for me [15:52] * gnomefreak away for a bit [15:52] thanks for the heads up [17:15] Anyone know how I can downgrade all of my X packages? ⢁D [17:17] make sure you get the older versions from somewhere and use dpkg / aptitude / synaptic? [17:17] funkyHat: then again, why do you want to downgrade them? [17:18] yofel: because the current ones are broken ⢁) [17:18] hm, haven't updated today yet, but right now it works fine here [17:18] The "get older ones from somewhere" part is what I'm struggling with, they don't appear to be in the archive anymore [17:18] yofel: my card is an ati r800 [17:18] no, either you have them in /var/cache/apt/archives or you need to fetch the lucid packages [17:19] oh [17:19] heh [17:19] vesa? [17:19] yes vesa works fine, if 1280x1024 is fine... [17:19] And only single headed [17:21] mm, I tried adding lucid's repos so they'd appear in aptitude, but it didn't seem to work, I guess I'll grab the packages and install them manually [17:22] they should appear after refreshing the package cache [17:22] you have to select the older version by hand of course [17:22] by pressing u (or aptitude update) you mean? I have done that a few times ⢁) [17:23] yeah, then go to the package you want, press enter, go to the bottom, select the version you want and press + [17:23] resolve the conflicts by downgrading all other packages and install them [17:24] Yeah, I'm only seeing 1:7.5+6ubuntu1 and the same with ~xorgedgers3 [17:25] hm, I have lucid enabled here and I can see all versions fine [17:25] Maybe I got my sources.list wrong... [17:26] hm, aptitude shows this here (the middle one comes from debian) [17:26] p 1:7.5+5ubuntu1 [17:26] p 1:7.5+6 [17:26] i 1:7.5+6ubuntu1 [17:26] Yeah, that's the problem, I only added lucid-security -_- [17:33] aha! === exigraff is now known as ex-exigraff === ex-exigraff is now known as exigraff === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === kab_ is now known as kab [18:03] Oh, the /topic has changed, does this mean xorg upgrades are safe? [18:52] anyone else got a failing kernel upgrade? [18:52] update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-3-generic [18:52] Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub. [18:52] Invalid parameter, 2.6.35-3-generic [18:53] User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub] exited with value 1 [19:08] Maverick won't boot after this AM's updates. wait-for-root not found in /init. Anyone else seeing this? [19:09] Looks like bug 360378 [19:09] Launchpad bug 360378 in linux (Ubuntu) "Gave up waiting for root device after upgrade then busybox console" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360378 === James147_ is now known as James147 === evilshadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer [20:19] hey guys.. I dont have maverick installed on a dual monitor system... is the wallpaper issues solved ? [20:20] ie... all options for wallpaper....scale etc etc simply mirror the image on both monitors and the "span" option does nothing more than center the image "between" each monitor [20:22] also the issue I had on lucid with multiple partitioned external drive not un mounting properly does not occur on kde o0 === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz === jpds changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: WARNING: amd64 users should not upgrade now. We are seeing initramfs errors, which lead to broken boots. | Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | Alpha 1 Released! See http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1. [21:59] Good day. [22:02] does anyone know which version of initramfs-tools caused the problem? [22:03] jonathonf: 0.96.1ubuntu3. [22:03] ta, i'll check my installed version [22:03] Fix is en route as we speak. [22:03] great [22:04] xorg 'should' be okay with an nvidia, yes? === jpds changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: WARNING: amd64 users should not upgrade. We are seeing initramfs errors (with 0.96.1ubuntu3), which lead to broken boots / fix en route | Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | Alpha 1 Released! See http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alph [22:05] h00k: yes [22:05] should be ;) [22:05] * jonathonf is still playing with fglrx [22:45] what is partial upgrade? === wtf1 is now known as ubuntu147 [22:56] h00k: only nvidia-current, the rest dont support xserver 1.8 [22:57] Sarvatt: okay. I'm running the proprietary nvidia driver on my laptop [22:57] it depends what driver you're using, theres 3 different versions [22:58] Right, whatever the latest one is these days, 19*.** [23:01] well, the very latest one in the 256.29 driver in the x-updates ppa [23:01] yeah the latest works fine, its just 173.xx and 96.xx that dont work [23:01] oh, holy smokes. I didn't realize it was that high. [23:01] Last I remember it was 195, I think [23:04] !info nvidia-current maverick [23:04] nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 195.36.24-0ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 22757 kB, installed size 70860 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) [23:04] yeah. that's me. [23:30] can't boot as it's dropping to initramfs..how to recover? [23:31] QCad is missing fonts since upgrade to lucid, (its think its a QT3 application) [23:32] how can I fix it? [23:34] ah, I think I need to install qcad-data [23:34] yep that fixed it. [23:58] how do I read the channel topic? [23:59] !topic [23:59] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic