[00:10] bodhi_zazen: over on #ubuntu there's this question: KlamAV and ClamTk keep getting stuck at 8% and 88% respectively. Does anyone know what could be causing this? [00:20] nuboon2age_: impatience ? [00:20] just let them run .... === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 === Terashell is now known as Tarashell === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === collin is now known as collinp [01:12] whats the command to tell which architecture OS your running 32/64 [01:12] Vantrax: uname -a [01:12] Vantrax: i686 is 32-bit, x86_64 is 64-bit [01:14] uname -m [01:14] =) [01:14] bah, i knew it was something stupidly simple [01:15] oh, i didn't know about uname -m [01:15] I forgot about that :( [01:16] I even use it in a script I publish, silly me [01:17] haha, there are so many to remember, it's easy to forget === Kesina is now known as Tarashell [01:39] boo [01:39] * ddecator jumps [01:39] i install wubi with a --32bit tag and it still installs x64 [01:39] even used the 32 bit iso [01:39] you have to manually download the 32bit iso i think [01:39] oh.. [01:39] how does that happen [01:40] no idea. windows messed up wubi for me so i just went with a dual boot :) [01:40] wubi asks you to select the os type [01:40] hrm, does uname -m give you the system hardware type or the OS type [01:40] OS type [01:40] thought so [01:40] OS [01:40] almost all processors nowadays are x86-64 capable [01:41] yeah, im trying to build a wubi disk image that can go across 16 hardware types [01:41] my windows was 32-bit but i'm using 64-bit ubuntu [01:42] Bodsda, where does wubi ask you to select the OS type [01:46] ... how can WUBI deploy a 64bit OS from a 32bit ISO without access to the net [01:47] had it download the 64-bit previously? [01:47] downloaded* [01:47] no [01:47] and the ubuntu folder is gone, no iso files on the system except mine [01:48] that's weird [01:48] your telling me [01:49] im about ready to punch this monitor >.< [01:49] hm, not sure that would work.. [01:49] no [01:49] but ill feel better, then go get a spare [01:49] Vantrax: dude. take - a - break. it's not that serious. [01:50] acerimmer_, I get paid to make it work:P [01:50] and by spare i mean i have 60 in storage down stairs as spares:P [01:51] Vantrax: 60?! sheeeeeeee - yo V! I need a little monitor upgrade here! How about hooking me up with a li'l UPS action on the side? [01:51] there should be something on the wubi faq about how to install 32-bit [01:51] :) [01:51] acerimmer_, my team supports 4500 pcs === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [01:52] Vantrax: then you ARE the man! [01:52] of which sevral hundred are linux dual boot [01:53] if it doesnt work this time.... [01:53] Vantrax: and here WE are complaining when ONE doesn't dance just right...LOL [01:53] im going to go listen to avenue q [01:54] yeah, i have to make a single image that works across hundreds of hardware types and automatically configures backgrounds and resolutions, correct naming etc [01:54] heh, of course the faq says to use --32bit or use a 32bit iso.. [01:54] er hundreds of machines and 16 hardware configs [01:55] you will notice after a while I tend to ask very difficult obscure questions:P [01:56] for example, im trying to find a commandline way to change the ubuntu logo on the face browser to another logo [01:57] the face browser? [01:59] ddecator: think he means the "circle of fiends" logo... [02:03] * zkriesse the bot is here [02:04] acerimmer_, yes, ddecator the face browser is the new gdm login applet that you see when you log in [02:04] YAY [02:04] Vantrax: oh is that what it's called? [02:04] it worked [02:04] he he he [02:04] yes [02:04] Vantrax: congrats! :D [02:05] Vantrax: http://www.foszor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/borat-thumbs-up.jpg [02:05] acerimmer_: AAAUUUGH [02:06] i have a photo of my boss wearing one of those..... [02:06] comes in handy [02:07] dang [02:07] Vantrax: not sure how much help this is, but i totally forgot about face browser bcz I used ubuntu tweak to disable it. there's also a gdm logo setting in tweak... [02:07] that's evil [02:07] yeah, i know ubuntu tweak [02:07] just give V a little congrats [02:07] looking for a native way to do it [02:07] zkriesse = zachk? [02:07] Vantrax: indeed [02:08] thought so, did you get your forums account sorted? [02:08] Vantrax: yep...joeb fixed it for me [02:08] Vantrax: For some reason i can't login to the Ubuntu Fridge [02:11] poke the fridge people, the list might have to be updated with your new lp name? dunno really, dont have much to do with the fridge. Nhandler does (poke) [02:11] nhandler: ping [02:11] zkriesse: Did you ever have access to it? [02:11] nhandler: I don't know [02:12] nhandler: I thought it was like the wiki [02:12] No. And since you are not a member of ~ubuntu-fridge, you can't login to it [02:14] <- i think i still am [02:14] I believe you are Vantrax [02:14] oh crap, need to put the rmb meetings in there [02:14] whats the link for the fridge again [02:15] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fridge [02:15] Vantrax: Calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar [02:15] Vantrax: LP or wiki [02:15] zach... the actual page:P [02:15] ah [02:15] * zkriesse wanders off === compiledkernel is now known as Guest77858 [02:21] okies, all done === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 === Kesina is now known as Tarashell === nuboon2age_ is now known as nUboon2Age === nUboon2Age is now known as nuboon2age === nuboon2age is now known as NUboon2Age === NUboon2Age is now known as nuboon2age_ === nuboon2age_ is now known as NUboon2Age === NUboon2Age is now known as nUboon2Age === Kes is now known as Guest12599 [05:40] Hello [05:41] hey tenach [05:41] Are there any cron jobs or other applications that are running in a stock 10.04 install that would cause my machine to slow down considerably when there seems to be a lot of activity on my hdd? This is happening whether I am idle or not. [05:43] The activity is enough to sound like something is being installed. [05:45] my processor is also 100% in use... [05:45] tenach: top? [05:45] yah, check top to see what's hogging the cpu [05:46] gwibber [05:46] and now it's not. [05:46] That was very strange, 'cause the hdd was as active as my cpu [05:46] you can kill gwibber and just restart it, i know that's still a little buggy. flash tends to run rampant as well [05:46] I haven't had trouble with flash, as I don't use it. :D [05:47] Rather, I use it, but i also don't let it load unless I want it to. [05:47] gnash? [05:47] ah [05:47] flashblock [05:47] ddecator, no, using the proprietary flash bin. [05:48] Wow, I killed gwibber [05:48] and now my cpu is idling [05:48] tenach: Yet another reason I don't like the "enhancements" of Lucid ;[P [05:48] ;-P* [05:49] well, they'll be nice when they're fixed up in maverick, but i'm not sure why they introduced so many new things into an lts.. [05:49] I'm not too fond of how integrated specific programs are getting. [05:49] ddecator, I thought that adding so many new things was against the point of an lts? [05:49] tenach: I'm just bitter about Empathy replacing Pidgin [05:50] aveilleux, I don't like the switch either. [05:50] tenach: exactly, which is why i don't understand switching to plymouth, adding the memenu, gwibber, etc. they're nice, but they hadn't been tested well enough for an lts imo [05:53] ddecator: What exactly caused the switch to Plymouth? It just seems like an "Oh, look. A nifty program. Add it in!" type of deal. [05:53] Seriously. [05:53] aveilleux: supposed to be faster as well i think [05:53] I had to switch to a different graphics card because the geforce 6 series shits the bed with plymouth. [05:54] ddecator: If there's any speed improvement, it's too miniscule to notice on my systems :P [05:54] yah.. [05:56] the part that pisses me off the most about lucid is that both my 6 series and my current ati card, x1650 dont' run as well as they did before... [05:56] Er, before, as in when I ran karmic [05:57] * zkriesse out [05:57] * aveilleux waves bye to zkreisse [05:57] bye aveilleux [05:58] yah, ati issues are aplenty, and i still get logged out sometimes when i hit thanks to plymouth :/ [05:58] Urk [05:59] i'm hoping maverick is a lot more stable [05:59] The implications of upgrading to an ATi card (from the 9800 GT to the 4870) have just struck me [06:28] Hello, I am fairly new to Ubuntu, and just am working on building it out. However today when I booted up it seems to have failed. I am using 10.04, and the boot process proceeds as it normally should until it launches the 'ubuntu' GUI screen and then i lose my monitors and the whole thing dies on me. It used to work fine, and my belief is that a change I made prior to the reboot by asking ubuntu to 'automatically log in as username' [06:28] broke the feature. Now I can log in with recovery mode as root, but I do not know how to undo the change and retest. Can anyone suggest how I should proceed? [06:30] dang, i can't think of what file has the auto-login option... [06:32] dan-uplate, you find something with Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic in the boot screen? [06:36] mohi2911 that is correct, I do have that kernal option to boot from instead of the 2.6.32-22-generic. I believe I have tried to boot from it and failed already, but if you like I can try again. [06:38] I just attempted the same thing. I got a blinking cursor in the top left portion of my screen, and then saw the purple backdrop with red blinky lights and the 'ubuntu' name and then it all died. [06:38] if it failed for sure, then i have to search for some other solutions [06:39] I have also gone into grub and hit 'e' for edit and changed the splash settings so that instead it generated the logging messages, but they ran by my screen so fast i could not read it, and the machine still did not boot with xorg [06:40] mohi2911 thank you for helping, I want you to know I appreciate it. [06:41] hmmm a strange problem in lucid [06:46] Anyone else mind taking a look at my problem, as mohi2911 appears to have left? [06:48] hmm, i'm thinking about possible solutions [06:50] so when you boot into recovery mode, you log into a command-line interface, right? (it's been a while since i've had to use recovery mode, not sure if it has graphics or not) [06:52] yes, it is command line. I have full access and functionality on the command line, but the tool i used to automatically log in as username was in the gnome gui [06:53] right. let me try to figure out which file you need to change to switch off auto-login [06:54] yes, if you could find that out I would be very grateful. [07:01] of course, there is information on where to make the change for karmic. i'm still hunting [07:01] I am sorry guys. My ISP is very bad and ddecator try seeing http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1407602.html [07:04] huh... dan-uplate, when you get the blinking cursor, have you tried hitting enter? [07:06] * ddecator thinks this smells of a plymouth issue :/ [07:06] ddecator: If you like I can try that. My impression is that while I am getting the blinking cursor there is actually a lot of logging taking place that is obscured from me for cosmetic reasons, as it follows this with the gui menu being launched. [07:07] dan-uplate: the gui menu? which one? [07:15] my apologies, it is not a menu, it is just a screen that says 'ubuntu' and has five red lights. When the load up is working the lights cycle around abit, but I just get five red lights and it stays there. [07:17] I attempted the strategy of hitting enter with the blinking cursor. Each time I hit enter the cursor moved down one line. The boot process continued as in previous cases and I got the colorful 'ubuntu' screen with the five red lights. [07:18] ah, so the splash is showing up after the blinking cursor then? [07:18] the 'ubuntu' screen is 'plymouth' which is the boot splash [07:19] yes, i get the blinking cursor then the plymouth boot splash and about 0.5 seconds after that the whole thing dies and i get black screens and my monitor informs me it lost signal [07:22] That has a strange ring to it that reminds me of an old similar issue on gutsy. dan-uplate If you are using a graphics card, try running on motherboard graphics. [07:22] do you know if you have an ati graphics card? [07:22] hey Bodsda =] [07:22] * Bodsda hides [07:22] :) [07:22] welcome back Bodsda :) [07:22] * mohi2911 finds Bodsda [07:22] sup mohi2911 [07:22] Bodsda, my ISP is making me feel bad :( [07:23] two to threee disconnects/min :'( [07:23] that's harsh :( [07:23] mohi2911: go get your vodafone 3g usb stick that has run out of credit. Set up an ssh tunnel through dns to use as a proxy and your laughing [07:24] * mohi2911 takes money from Bodsda's card :D [07:24] * Bodsda notes that the above is not entirely legal, so any profit you make from using this solution, must be.... given to me [07:24] * mohi2911 buys a new vodafone 3G :P [07:24] Bodsda, ^^ :P [07:24] Bodsda and ddecator you are correct, I am running an ATI Radeon HD 3450 graphics card. How do I boot from the motherboard instead? [07:25] dan-uplate: just unplug the cable from the graphics card and attach it to the onboard vga slot (3 row) [07:26] * Bodsda continues to steal one of mohi2911's packets every 30 seconds or so [07:26] ddecator: morning :) [07:27] im off for a smoke [07:27] dan-uplate: it seems to be an issue with the graphics driver [07:27] aww :'( [07:28] * mohi2911 expects a powercut here [07:28] dan-uplate: there are various things people have tried using at boot, one is 'radeon.modeset=0' in the boot command [07:29] dan-uplate: this may work as well: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/560306/comments/23 [07:29] Launchpad bug 560306 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "[lucid] ATI hd5xxx cards wrongly doing kms? (affects: 34) (dups: 4) (heat: 172)" [High,Confirmed] [07:30] ha, forgot we have ubot now [07:32] ok. powercut [07:32] later guys [07:34] Bodsda I removed the casing on the computer (it is a work computer) and it is one of those slim cases (vostro by dell), and I do not feel comfortable jamming my fingers into that cramped mess at all. Everything is way too cramped, I miss the old school PC setup like I have at home. I will try ddecator's advice first as I am reluctant to screw around with the hardware. [07:35] dan-uplate: don't blame you. gone are the days of desktops that have plenty of space :/ [07:35] * ddecator wanted to clean his heat sink earlier, and it required taking the entire computer apart, but then hp decided to use thermal pads which i can't replace [07:38] dan-uplate: ...... you attach the monitor to a different port on the back. No need to open it up [07:39] oh, is this not a laptop? o.o [07:40] oh, is this a laptop? o.o [07:40] dan-uplate: if the computer a laptop? :p [07:40] s/if/is [07:40] http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/desktops/vostrodt/ct.aspx?refid=vostrodt&cs=04&s=bsd [07:41] it's one of those narrow vostro's there, but its the 220 model. I just couldnt find a pic of the 220 [07:41] should still have onboard vga [07:41] oh :p [07:41] I have two monitors plugged into the graphics card, I do see an onboard VGA now, it is covered with some sort of a cap. I do not however have a VGA connector. [07:43] dan-uplate: ah.. the comp will probably bitch and moan if you try to use onboard then, you will have to remove the graphics card first. After getting a vga cable of course :) [07:43] ddecator can you please explain to me exactly where i put the 'radeon.modeset=0' command in the boot command so I don't put it in the wrong spot? [07:43] dan-uplate: anywhere, just edit the boot line in grub [07:44] yup [07:44] k, that is what i expected, i just wanted to confirm [07:44] I would like to try the non-hardware affecting strategy. These computers are shared workspaces, and in 12 hours when I go home someone else is going to be logging into the same box with windows xp :p [07:45] fair enough [07:46] ok, i added that into the grub line of command and then entered ctrl+x. I observed identical behavior [07:48] ok, try adding 'nomodeset' as well [07:50] ok to the bottom of the default kernal i added nomodeset and am now trying to boot [07:51] hrms, same thing [07:53] did you see the comment i linked to? [07:54] yes, I will try that next [07:56] interesting fact, when I use nomodeset after when i go to hard reboot the machine the graphics resumes and i see one of the 5 lights red, and four of the five lights white for about a second. The first time i hard powered it off fairly quickly, saw this behavior and decided to try it again. The second time I left the computer in the state where it had 'crashed' for a long time and then hit the power button, and i again regained the 1 of [07:56] 5 red lights and ubuntu splash screen [08:07] In my apt-get update there is an fglrx update included. I wonder if an update broke something now. Regardless the update is still taking place. [08:08] hopefully it helps :) === PD187_ is now known as PD187 [08:28] I think with the link included i got an extra second of the plymouth splash screen before it crashed on me [08:28] :( [08:29] At this point do I just back up and re-install? I'd really like to avoid doing that if I can, it takes me afew days to rebuild. [08:29] It's especially frustrating if I cannot accurately pinpoint the problem which caused it to get to this state. [08:30] that may not fix anything if it's due to the graphics driver [08:31] hm, the fix was committed 7 days ago.. [08:31] I am quite certain it is a recent change. If it was the graphics driver the OS would not have worked for a month beforehand. Also the live CD still works great. [08:31] That sounds reasonable, I have been on vacation and just got back. [08:32] ddecator what do you suggest I do to continue at this point? [08:33] dan-uplate: i'm thinking about it.. [08:33] you said you don't have an older kernel to boot into? [08:34] i had the 21 kernel which had the same behavior [08:35] 2.6.32-22-generic and 2.6.32-21-generic [08:37] hm, boot into a command line and try 'sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati' (this is a shot in the dark, but it might work) [08:38] heh sudo not required in rescue mode. :) trying to boot into it now since that change [08:39] same behavior [08:40] oh, right, root :p [08:40] well, i'm honestly out of ideas :/ [08:41] but you can try here again later and someone else will hopefully have more ideas [08:41] ok. Thanks for your help ddecator. [08:42] no problem dan-uplate, good luck! [09:14] Hi, I have a problem with owerheating on Ubuntu 10, Notebook lenovo 3000 N200, fan is working, cpu are scaling, can not see fan on sensors [09:31] Hi, I have a problem with owerheating on Ubuntu 10, Notebook lenovo 3000 N200, fan is working, cpu are scaling, can not see fan on sensors === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [09:54] Hi, I have a problem with owerheating on Ubuntu 10, Notebook lenovo 3000 N200, fan is working, cpu are scaling, can not see fan on sensors. On high load computer turns off === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [09:58] Hmm [09:59] What do you use to monitor the sensors? GKrellm ? [09:59] gnome sensors applet, and sensors from shell (think it's lmsensors) [10:02] sensors version 3.1.2 with libsensors version 3.1.2 [10:03] Sample output: [10:03] coretemp-isa-0000 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: +47.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) [10:03] sensors do not report fan, just cpu temp [10:04] when cpu hits 90C, computer turns off [10:06] cavalliloco: has it actually hit shutdown temp? :( [10:07] yes [10:07] ugh [10:07] there are some flash apps that are very effective in rasing cpu :) [10:08] sensors report 100C to be crit/high, but 90 is crit [10:08] you cant even boil water at 90, pssh [10:12] cavalliloco: if scaling and the fan is working, I would suspect dust [10:13] was running winxp till now, and never had an issue [10:13] maybe just crit/high are off and need to be adjusted [10:21] cavalliloco: this isa little old, but I thought it interesting http://208.74.204.134/t5/Lenovo-3000-and-Value-line/Attention-N200-Owners-I-found-a-fix-for-the-fan/m-p/14292;jsessionid=ADAC0F9A4603ED3A5B4A6685DE290090 [10:25] but what to do with this on ubuntu? [10:28] cavalliloco: what graphics does that laptop have? NVIDIA? [10:29] I think so, how to check? [10:30] lspci | grep VGA [10:31] Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller [10:40] cavalliloco: seems to be a common problem with no real consensus on the cause or fix?? [10:41] not sure I follow, but this output from sensors : high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C, which is higher then my max, should I be worried about that? [10:43] and why can't I see voltage, rpm and stuff in sensor output? [13:59] duanedesign: managed to solve it, seems frequency scalling and temperature reading did not talk to eachother cause acpi did not get any temp readings. had to install cpufreqd a configure it to work with sensors [14:34] paultag, what happened to your voice!!!! mohi [14:39] karthi: it's a secret [14:40] lol === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [17:08] duanedesign: do you know a way to remap keyboard keys, but only for a specific applications? [17:18] Never tried to do that... [17:18] Not sure if possible [17:18] Hmm [17:23] remapping for a specific program? the only way i know is if the program has a menu entry that allows you to do so.. [17:23] * switchgirl_ crys as she killed her usb drive [17:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/450656/ [17:25] i wish smudo was a command.. [17:26] i corrected that - freaked out till i realised the err "wtf sudo is missing.... whats sudo's number i'm calling them in from holiday)" [17:27] i think you can remap for different windows. I am not sure about aplications komputes_ubuntu [17:29] duanedesign: ok, I guess I'll just use xev and make xmodmap scripts [17:29] * duanedesign nods === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [20:29] anybody know how to get a second monitor running through a lappy [20:29] i have ubuntu 10.04 [20:29] i found a monitor [20:29] is there a ketstroke [20:30] goodtime: It's usually Fn+F5 [20:30] keystroke [20:30] er no [20:30] Fn+F7 [20:30] i tryed that and everything went blank [20:30] Fn+F5 is wireless Internet control :P [20:30] goodtime: Was the monitor plugged in at boot time? [20:32] yes [20:32] its on standby [20:33] goodtime: What happens whtn you hit Fn+F7 more than once? [20:34] goodtime: I ask because my laptop defaults to Duplicate behavior if an external monitor is plugged in at boot time [20:36] oic [20:40] the driver doesnt work [20:41] thats the prob then === Guest77858 is now known as compiledkernel [21:15] when booting ubuntu received error: no suitable mode found then error" unknown command "terminal" not found [21:16] Hello Firefox will not allow Private browsing STOP private browsing is greyed out)! Any ideas? === compiledkernel is now known as Guest67719 [21:27] Hello Firefox will not allow Private browsing - Any ideas? [21:28] AJH101, what you get when you hit Tools-> Start Private Browsing?? [22:11] got it all running good [22:12] * goodtime has 2 monitors running fine [22:18] hi, does anyone know if updating alsa (running 10.04) is a good idea to fix a non working external mic? [22:19] worked under vista before i switched to ubuntu last month === Guest67719 is now known as compiledkernel [22:56] tpjmiami:open: sound preferences > input plug your external microphone in wait a moment until you can select it and then use sound recorder to record and play the file, this worked for me. [23:03] tpjmiami: also run the command 'alsamixer' without the quotes in a Terminal and make sure none of the mic settings are muted (MM). hit m to mute/unmute, esc to exit [23:06] tpjmiami: can you please pastebin the output of "ps aux | grep pulseaudio" (w/o quotes) [23:08] tpjmiami: reading through http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/13/%23ubuntu-beginners.html#t15:05 it seems like you may not be running pulse audio [23:26] kermiac, can u remind me how to pastebin that command [23:26] ? [23:26] !pastebin | tpjmiami [23:27] tpjmiami: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [23:29] does | !pastebinit come at the end of the command? [23:33] tpjmiami: if you have pastebinit installed the command you need to run rom the terminal is "ps aux | grep pulseaudio | pastebinit" (w/o quotes) [23:34] so the pastebin site is pastebin.com/8DxWv05U [23:35] on alsamixer i managed to discover that two mic indicators were muted, so i unmuted them as duanedesign said [23:35] but i plugged in the mic, made the "echo" test call on Skype, and not hearing my own voice [23:35] tpjmiami: ok, pulseaudio is running - that's good [23:36] tpjmiami: it's better to use gnome-soundrecorder (Applications --> Sound & Video --> Sound Recorder) to test your mic as skype sometimes has separate issues [23:36] strange thing is, i heard my own voice on the laptop's speakers [23:36] (and indeed on the headset itself) [23:37] tpjmiami: please try using Sound Recorder - if you are hearing your voice in the speakers/ headset it should mean that your mic is working [23:39] Sound Recorder isn't recording anything [23:40] i click on the red button, speak loudly on both external and internal mic, and no volume, saved file and can't open it [23:42] getting echoing when i unmute the mic, so something is working though [23:42] after you click record and stop you can hit play and hear what you just recorded [23:43] this app can be helpful sudo apt-get install pavucontrol [23:44] tpjmiami: this explains how to use with Skype. But its the same for all audio apps. [23:44] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#Audio%20Problems [23:45] i've got pulse audio vol control and chooser already [23:45] ok :) [23:47] i'm assuming pavucontrol and pulse audio volume control are the same thing? [23:50] this line from the webpage isn't true: 4. In pavucontrol there is a tab called Recording where you can select the input device for the application Skype [23:51] i can't select anything [23:53] when i briefly uninstalled pulseaudio and tried to install esound this weekend, the mic did work.... i realise it was bad advise so one of your colleagues helped me reinstall pulseaudio [23:53] i just feel like there has to be a simple solution, some switch somewhere