| robert_ancell | no desktop meeting today? | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | No? I'm not late for it, then? | 00:09 |
| LaserJock | I think it was earlier | 00:09 |
| LaserJock | or well, the early one was earlier :-) | 00:09 |
| robert_ancell | I *think* it's Eastern edition now, according to my calendar | 00:10 |
| RAOF | That would be the traditional time, yes. | 00:11 |
| LaserJock | seb128 ran the Western edition | 00:11 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, I've been caught out by daylight savings at least once :) | 00:12 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: You around for desktop team meeting eastern edition? | 00:16 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, yeah | 00:16 |
| rickspencer3 | sorry, otp | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | everything is running over | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, TheMuso sound ok? | 00:17 |
| TheMuso | sure | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, ? | 00:17 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 00:18 |
| RAOF | I'm now at a location where the power won't be turned off at arbitrary times :) | 00:18 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, bonus! | 00:18 |
| rickspencer3 | so ... | 00:21 |
| rickspencer3 | I couldn't attend the main meeting | 00:21 |
| rickspencer3 | and I've been totally busy all day, so I haven't even looked at the meeting wiki :/ | 00:21 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, TheMuso, robert_ancell given that I have no more context than the three of you, how do you suggest we proceed? | 00:22 |
| * TheMuso decides to read the wiki page for now. | 00:24 | |
| robert_ancell | what was the wiki link? | 00:24 |
| rickspencer3 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-06-15 | 00:25 |
| rickspencer3 | it looks nicely filled in | 00:25 |
| rickspencer3 | tremolux, around at all? | 00:28 |
| RAOF | Hm. The indicator stuff reminds me - the ayatana mono bindings for the various libs have historically not been particularly Debian-cli policy compliant, with varying degrees of problems introduced by this. I'd like to volunteer my assistance if people have CLI packaging questions - they're generally quite easy. :) | 00:28 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, ^ | 00:28 |
| RAOF | I also notice that we've now got libindicate mono bindings. Yay! :) | 00:30 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm pretty sure that kenvandine rolled those | 00:30 |
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| robert_ancell | does anyone here know about webkit releases? Will Maverick be using >1.2? | 00:34 |
| TheMuso | I personally hope the latest is used to get accessibility improvements, but no idea what Maverick will end up using. | 00:35 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, TheMuso is webkit not part of Gnome? | 00:36 |
| TheMuso | I think its an external dependency. | 00:37 |
| RAOF | That was my understanding. | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | so, would that not fall to the Gnome maintainer to determine? | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | *cough* robert_ancell *cough* | 00:38 |
| robert_ancell | external. I'm not familiar with the release process though, and they don't have a well defined process on their webpage | 00:38 |
| rickspencer3 | fudge | 00:38 |
| robert_ancell | so the latest yelp, which I want to try requires features of the latest version, but I'm not sure if that's stable | 00:39 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, you want the latest yelp for maverick? | 00:39 |
| robert_ancell | I want to try it (I can't compile it atm), there's been a lot of help improvements lately | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | urk | 00:40 |
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| === Rzv_ is now known as Rzv | ||
| Sarvatt | sorry to be a pain, but is there any chance anyone is around that could sponsor a mesa upload? it's just a tiny fix putting the GL headers in the right place, anything building against them in the current package is failing - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/mesa/ | 00:57 |
| Sarvatt | and here is the file list for the built debs to be sure its right - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/files-seven.txt | 00:57 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: I'll take a look. | 01:05 |
| Sarvatt | TheMuso: thanks yet again man, really appreciate the help | 01:07 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: np | 01:07 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: Ok just waiting for a test build. Once this is uploaded and built, please let me know what packages need rebuilding, and I can retry them for you. | 01:14 |
| Sarvatt | thanks TheMuso, I'm not sure anything in the archive failed but I am checking now | 01:17 |
| Sarvatt | checking everything that built since mesa since its possible things could just silently fail to enable GL support since there were no headers | 01:19 |
| TheMuso | yep ok | 01:21 |
| tremolux | rickspencer3: you rang? | 01:21 |
| tremolux | rickspencer3: also, you said "fudge" | 01:24 |
| Sarvatt | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libforms | 01:33 |
| Sarvatt | found one so far | 01:33 |
| Sarvatt | everyone and their mother pulls in xserver-xorg-dev, have to trawl through the build logs to be sure its not using it :) | 01:34 |
| Sarvatt | (which pulls in mesa-common-dev) | 01:34 |
| Sarvatt | nasty time to have a huge sync go through :( | 01:35 |
| Sarvatt | 3 pages and i've only gone back an hour | 01:35 |
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| TheMuso | heh | 01:36 |
| TheMuso | Ok still test building here, and even once I do upload it, it will take an hour at least before packages start showing up. | 01:36 |
| Sarvatt | i'm 400 results in and its only going back 2 hours, broken mesa has been uploaded for like a day. eep | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | Sarvatt: uploading. | 01:44 |
| Sarvatt | another one that failed - http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50404333/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.mrtrix_0.2.8-3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 01:57 |
| TheMuso | ok | 02:05 |
| TheMuso | Twill be a while before mesa is built everywhere, at least all arches are building it now. | 02:05 |
| Sarvatt | ok searched through 1550 builds until i hit mesa and those two were the only problems, outside of libghc6-opengl which failed anyway since the base packages failed | 02:26 |
| TheMuso | ok cool. | 02:30 |
| dobey | hrmm | 02:40 |
| dobey | the bzr tree for the ubuntuone-client package isn't updated with last week's release. | 02:41 |
| dobey | hrmm, and the lucid tree isn't updated with the SRU either | 02:42 |
| dobey | TheMuso: you wouldn't have any idea why that might be, would you? | 02:43 |
| TheMuso | dobey: Without digging, no I have no idea. | 02:46 |
| dobey | ok | 02:46 |
| kenvandine | RAOF, rickspencer3: would love to have someone look at those | 02:50 |
| kenvandine | RAOF, i think directhex did the indicator-application mono bindings | 02:51 |
| kenvandine | so should be debian-cli compliant | 02:51 |
| kenvandine | i did the libindicate mono bindings, which are only like a week old :) | 02:51 |
| dobey | TheMuso: looks like it just failed to import for some reason | 02:52 |
| RAOF | kenvandine: I'll have a look at them if you like. | 02:52 |
| TheMuso | dobey: RIght | 02:52 |
| kenvandine | RAOF, awesome | 02:52 |
| RAOF | I'd kinda like to patch smuxi into the indicator :) | 02:52 |
| kenvandine | i think i fixed the packaging problems in the latest appindicator0.1-cil | 02:53 |
| kenvandine | RAOF, cool! | 02:53 |
| kenvandine | but there is a problem in the library still | 02:53 |
| kenvandine | making them not work :/ | 02:53 |
| kenvandine | the last update to indicator-application broke the assembly version | 02:54 |
| kenvandine | and the -cil-dev package was 0.1 and the -cil package was 0.0 | 02:54 |
| kenvandine | it was a mess... | 02:55 |
| kenvandine | the dll was 0.1 but installed in the 0.0 dir and the .pc file was and .config file where pointing to 0.1 | 02:55 |
| kenvandine | so nothing was working! | 02:55 |
| RAOF | :) | 02:55 |
| kenvandine | but fixing that uncovered deeper breakage in libappindicator | 02:55 |
| kenvandine | :/ | 02:55 |
| RAOF | The CLI is quite pendantic about… oh. :( | 02:56 |
| kenvandine | RAOF, however... for smuxi all you need is libindicate | 02:56 |
| kenvandine | which is available now... and should work :) | 02:56 |
| RAOF | :) | 02:56 |
| kenvandine | RAOF, i also just did mono bindings for libgwibber | 02:56 |
| kenvandine | but none of that is packaged yet :) | 02:56 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, what is the best way to give you a package for sponsorship that is not in bzr? | 06:51 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: If its a new upstrea release, then you probably need to upload the file set somewhere. If its a new revision without the need for a new orig tarball, a debdiff will do. | 06:52 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, I never really got the whole debdiff process, I've uploaded it to lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/rdesktop, can you sponsor please? | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: ok | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: ok/c | 06:56 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: the timestamp of the latest changelog entry is from 2008... | 06:57 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: and your name is not in the entry. | 06:57 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, whoops, pushed | 06:58 |
| TheMuso | thanks | 06:58 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: uploaded | 07:02 |
| TheMuso | bbiab | 07:03 |
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| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, can you sponsor pygtk too? | 07:38 |
| baptistemm | hello | 07:53 |
| baptistemm | if someone could merge my branches, that'd be great (lp:~bluetooth/ubuntu/maverick/obexd/main & lp:~bluetooth/ubuntu/maverick/bluez/main) | 07:54 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:55 |
| baptistemm | hi pitti | 07:55 |
| baptistemm | s/merge/review/ | 07:55 |
| baptistemm | http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/canonical_GDOS/ | 07:58 |
| baptistemm | huu | 07:58 |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:03 |
| pitti | bonjour baptistemm, hey didrocks | 08:05 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen pitti | 08:07 |
| RAOF | Aloha pitti, didrocks. | 08:08 |
| didrocks | hey RAOF | 08:09 |
| RAOF | I'm trying out unity. It's pretty rockin'! | 08:09 |
| didrocks | heh, right, it's really good :) | 08:09 |
| pitti | hey RAOF | 08:10 |
| RAOF | It does suffer from the problem that mutter grabs the <Super> modifier and doesn't let go, though. | 08:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: indeed! I have yesterday's daily installed on my mini now | 08:10 |
| * didrocks is eager for Thursday release, a lot of goodness coming :) | 08:11 | |
| RAOF | Man, software-centre has also gone all shiny. | 08:18 |
| seb128 | hello | 08:41 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hey, stop working on karmic we should focus on maverick now! ;-) | 08:41 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, did I upload something to karmic by accident... | 08:44 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, no, but you listed a lot of karmic updates on your activity report ;-) | 08:45 |
| robert_ancell | oh, well, I just love karmic so much I want to make it better ;) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | hehe | 08:45 |
| seb128 | how are you otherwise? | 08:45 |
| seb128 | had a productive day? ;-) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | I think desrt was looking for you yesterday | 08:45 |
| seb128 | he said something about you guys living in incompatible timezones | 08:46 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yeah, almost at the end of the merges! | 08:48 |
| robert_ancell | I've been merging compiz to reduce the delta from debian... | 08:48 |
| seb128 | nice | 08:49 |
| seb128 | we can probably sync some of compiz-* | 08:49 |
| seb128 | or be close | 08:49 |
| robert_ancell | there's just so much text that differs between the two, it's very hard to tell what is important | 08:50 |
| seb128 | "text"? | 08:50 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, in debian/ | 08:53 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, don't bother too much about rebasing sources when it's not worth the effort | 08:53 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, we don't need compiz-dbg any more right? Now that we have -dbgsym? | 08:58 |
| seb128 | right | 08:58 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, oh, I took one look at gvds and decided that could be merged another day :) | 09:01 |
| robert_ancell | gvfs | 09:01 |
| seb128 | hehe | 09:02 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I can do that today if you want | 09:02 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, is there any merge left on your todolist? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, do you know what you plan to work on next after merges? | 09:02 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I started gnome-menus but got a bit lost, I'll push it to a +junk branch, you can have a look | 09:03 |
| robert_ancell | the only other things were gnome-control-center and system-tools-backends | 09:04 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:04 |
| robert_ancell | everything else is more foundations work | 09:04 |
| seb128 | I will try to look at gvfs gnome-menus gnome-control-center today | 09:04 |
| seb128 | I would like to see if I can help debian getting started on gtk3 as well | 09:04 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, the idea right now would be to have the gtk3 stack ready to be used for maverick but not on the default installation | 09:05 |
| seb128 | which means we will have to do the packaging work for dual libraries, themes, etc | 09:05 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, do you think it's a reasonable goal? | 09:05 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, I think we should try. The theme for Maverick seems to be, get all the new libraries in so people can start using them | 09:06 |
| seb128 | I don't trust their schedule enough and the transition will raise issues especially for bindings use etc | 09:06 |
| seb128 | so getting gtk3 clients on the default installation would be quite some work | 09:06 |
| seb128 | we would also need to find CD space for it | 09:06 |
| seb128 | I think we better get it in shape this cycle and see how it works | 09:06 |
| robert_ancell | The only apps I'm currently interested in looking at 2.31 versions are vinagre (will get rdp support so can drop tsclient) and yelp (needs unstable version of webkit) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I guess we will end by having a GNOME3 ppa at the end of the cycle anyway | 09:07 |
| robert_ancell | I don't think we need to get this stuff on the cd | 09:07 |
| robert_ancell | universe will be fine | 09:07 |
| seb128 | right | 09:07 |
| seb128 | I'm interested in new empathy | 09:07 |
| seb128 | but seems upstream is interested to still support gtk2 builds if they can so we can ship their new version | 09:07 |
| seb128 | nautilus and evolution would be nice to have | 09:07 |
| seb128 | but those will likely be problematic so for next cycle | 09:08 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/gnome-menus-merge | 09:08 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, thanks | 09:08 |
| robert_ancell | ok, gtg, see you later | 09:08 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, have fun, see you later! | 09:09 |
| vish | hmm, is mpt on leave today? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | vish, dunno but it's only 9am in the uk | 09:15 |
| vish | ah cool | 09:15 |
| seb128 | vish, ie a time where people start working | 09:15 |
| seb128 | he might just not be arrived yet | 09:15 |
| vish | got it :) | 09:15 |
| huats | morning | 09:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hello | 09:46 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 :) | 09:46 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, do you think chromium is still on the a2 target for une? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | I think we should discuss that with chrisccoulson and rickspencer today | 09:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: it depends on chriscoulson's state I would love to have all the default for a2 | 09:47 |
| didrocks | but I didn't want to bother him while he was still on his firefox's updates | 09:47 |
| seb128 | I think it's not realistic | 09:48 |
| seb128 | it requires to rework xulrunner | 09:48 |
| didrocks | right, it will be short | 09:48 |
| seb128 | you are already over CD space use | 09:48 |
| didrocks | yeah, at least banshee + evolution express will be good | 09:48 |
| didrocks | talking of evolution express, I tried to cherry pick what's needed yesterday evening to build it | 09:49 |
| didrocks | it brings most of the gnome 2.30 trunk in it | 09:49 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:49 |
| seb128 | well GNOME 2.30.2 next week | 09:49 |
| didrocks | I got something, but at this point, I think waiting for evolution 2.30.2 is better | 09:49 |
| didrocks | right | 09:49 |
| seb128 | you are welcome to do a git snapshot if you want | 09:49 |
| seb128 | or wait next week | 09:49 |
| didrocks | I think we can wait for few days, it will be easier and less error-prones | 09:49 |
| seb128 | if you do a git snapshot if will make the next update easier to review and get during the alpha freeze I guess | 09:50 |
| didrocks | but it's not that difficult to backport it, so I'm confident for alpha2 :) | 09:50 |
| seb128 | hum ignore that | 09:50 |
| didrocks | yeah, but e-d-s is needed too | 09:50 |
| seb128 | we will get the .2 tarball before the freeze | 09:50 |
| didrocks | right | 09:50 |
| seb128 | so wait next week | 09:50 |
| didrocks | so, let's focus on banshee now and some dx packaging | 09:50 |
| didrocks | do you want me to push to alpha3 the chromium WI now? | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, hi | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-language-selector | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, did you do the follow up discussion and did you get the mockups? | 09:52 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| alf__ | didrocks: Hi! In #591208 i said "none" not "one" :) | 10:08 |
| didrocks | alf__: umf, should by glasses :) | 10:08 |
| didrocks | buy* | 10:08 |
| didrocks | alf__: sweet, so we can go on on that, do you still have changes that need to be done with the egl backend? | 10:08 |
| alf__ | didrocks: I just have to add the symbols files in that branch, too | 10:11 |
| didrocks | alf__: ok, keep me posted, I would rather work on your branch directly | 10:11 |
| alf__ | didrocks: You mean the egl brach? | 10:12 |
| didrocks | right | 10:12 |
| alf__ | didrocks: ok | 10:12 |
| seb128 | didrocks, could you try to get extra feedback about your poppler sru you did over a month ago now? | 10:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure | 10:38 |
| kamstrup | njpatel, would you rather I make the searching work or I make the time based grouping work? | 10:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: what's the official link to see waiting sru btw? http://qa.ubuntu.com/ still points to http://people.canonical.com/~sbeattie/sru_todo.html which seems not being updated anymore | 10:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html | 10:44 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey | 10:44 |
| * didrocks bookmarks, thanks seb128 | 10:44 | |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 10:44 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm fine thank | 10:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how are you? | 10:45 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i'm not too bad thanks. a bit tired this morning though | 10:45 |
| chrisccoulson | i had quite a late night updating extensions in karmic last night | 10:46 |
| seb128 | worked late again? | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i just saw bug 595008. i should probably think about doing that for mozilla-devscripts too ;) | 10:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 595008 in debhelper (Ubuntu) "should port the Ubuntu cdbs custom rules to dh7 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595008 | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to figure out how dh7 works first though | 10:48 |
| seb128 | hehe | 10:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you have a maverick system yet? | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - not yet. i was going to wait until after the mozilla work is done before upgrading | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to upgrade just yet | 10:50 |
| seb128 | right | 10:50 |
| seb128 | I guess I will look at merging gjs today | 10:50 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, RAOF: or does one of you want to do it? | 10:50 |
| seb128 | I've a workitem to get an updated gnome-shell in universe for alpha2 | 10:50 |
| seb128 | I think we can probably sync that from Debian | 10:51 |
| seb128 | but we need to get the current gjs | 10:51 |
| RAOF | You're welcome to take gjs, I'd love lo lose TIL status on it :/ | 10:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to look at gjs at some point. the xulrunner update in lucid is going to break gjs there | 10:51 |
| chrisccoulson | it's specifies a rpath for libmozjs, which is going to change after each update | 10:52 |
| chrisccoulson | so we might need to drop that and provide a wrapper in gnome-shell to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 10:52 |
| chrisccoulson | else it's going to break every few weeks | 10:52 |
| seb128 | there is a bug open to change it so it stops needing a rebuilding after each upgrade | 10:52 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:52 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i think micahg was looking at that | 10:52 |
| * RAOF wish, wish, wishes that GNOME had rejected it in favour of seed which doesn't try to treat an defiantly ABI unstable dynamic object as a system library. | 10:52 | |
| seb128 | I might just do the easy update and let you deal with other changes then | 10:52 |
| chrisccoulson | RAOF - this is why we don't treat it as a system library on ubuntu (unlike other distro's) | 10:53 |
| chrisccoulson | so it makes it very difficult for people to use it | 10:53 |
| milanbv | chrisccoulson: if you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, note the gnome-shell python script already does this | 10:55 |
| milanbv | only need to change the dir there | 10:55 |
| chrisccoulson | milanbv, oh, that's good. we need to dynamically set the path based on the output of "xulrunner --gre-version" | 10:56 |
| milanbv | you have | 10:56 |
| milanbv | mozjs_libdir = re.sub('-(sdk|devel)', '', mozjs_sdkdir) | 10:56 |
| milanbv | if os.path.exists(mozjs_libdir + '/libmozjs.so'): | 10:56 |
| milanbv | env['LD_LIBRARY_PATH'] = os.environ.get('LD_LIBRARY_PATH', '') + ':' + mozjs_libdir | 10:56 |
| milanbv | so that's easy :-) | 10:56 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, so we really just need to drop the rpath from gjs | 10:56 |
| RAOF | And provide a wrapper for the gjs binary, probably. | 10:57 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, we'd need to do that too | 10:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, want to do that and rebase on debian? ;-) | 10:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you can do that on lucid I guess | 10:57 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i can look at that later on | 10:57 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:57 |
| milanbv | though, note you have to do the same in gnome-shell-clock-preferences, which is a standalone shell script | 10:57 |
| chrisccoulson | i just need to update a few more extensions first | 10:57 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~arne/language-selector/ | 11:04 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, hey | 11:05 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, nice | 11:05 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: mockups are here, they need a final review and maybe some polishing. Review meeting yesterday was cancelled, since Design team had a meetng with Mark. Need to find a new time. | 11:05 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, can you change to work item to DONE then? | 11:05 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: yep | 11:05 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:05 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: done | 11:10 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, thanks | 11:11 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | didrocks, I guess the eclipse doesn't start is a rgba issue | 12:28 |
| didrocks | seb128: didn't kenvandine deactivated rgba yesterday? | 12:28 |
| seb128 | not sure | 12:28 |
| seb128 | I did in maverick | 12:28 |
| seb128 | I've not tracked ppa builds | 12:28 |
| didrocks | IIRC, he told he did, that's why I want to ensure he has the last one | 12:29 |
| didrocks | I don't have a box ready right now to break it and want to work on other thing, checking with him will be good, no? | 12:29 |
| alf__ | didrocks: I think I have made all changes to my clutter eglx build. Feel free to take a look :) | 12:31 |
| didrocks | alf__: adding that to my TODO, tomorrow morning sounds good? | 12:32 |
| alf__ | didrocks: Sure, thanks! | 12:32 |
| didrocks | alf__: I will certainly ping you then so :) | 12:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks, don't bother testing, I was just making a comment that's it's likely a rgba issue | 12:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, thanks :) | 12:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, but the versions you list have rgba changes | 12:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: and those I tested on maverick? (the first one) | 12:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, though you are likely using an ubuntu eclipse, I'm not sure the user is | 12:35 |
| didrocks | right, I'm using the ubuntu eclipse | 12:35 |
| seb128 | ie we might have workaround for such issues | 12:35 |
| didrocks | yeah, probably | 12:36 |
| seb128 | lot of users run upstream eclipse though | 12:36 |
| didrocks | it's so easy to run it without installing, that can explain the crash he has and not me | 12:36 |
| _tydeas_ | i am back for the bind9 problem? | 13:07 |
| _tydeas_ | does it need to allow icmp from firewall too? | 13:07 |
| _tydeas_ | sorry wrong # | 13:08 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, pitti: I've just uploaded ubuntu-sso-client package to maverick, which is a split from ubuntuone-client | 13:12 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, pitti: what do I need to do to get it in main? | 13:12 |
| james_w | rodrigo_: depend on it from something in main | 13:13 |
| rodrigo_ | ugh, the upload was rejected | 13:13 |
| seb128 | you likely don't have upload rights for this source? | 13:13 |
| rodrigo_ | james_w, ubuntuone-client will depend on it as soon as we get the package in maverick | 13:13 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, right, it's a new package | 13:14 |
| james_w | rodrigo_: in that case you just need to file a dummy MIR bug stating that it is code split out from ubuntuone-client, and it will get cursory review | 13:14 |
| rodrigo_ | james_w, ok | 13:14 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, so you need a sponsor to upload for you | 13:16 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, since you don't have right for that source | 13:16 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yeah, so I file a MIR bug pointing to the branch containing the package? | 13:17 |
| james_w | rodrigo_: they are independent things, you can get it uploaded by a sponsor, and file the MIR bug independently | 13:20 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, so who can do the upload for me? | 13:20 |
| rodrigo_ | the package is in lp:~nataliabidart/ubuntu/maverick/ubuntu-sso-client/maverick | 13:20 |
| james_w | I would do it now, but I'm just headed out for lunch | 13:20 |
| rodrigo_ | james_w, ok, can we ping you later so that you do it, please? | 13:21 |
| james_w | sure, if no-one else can help you beforehand | 13:21 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, thanks | 13:21 |
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| pitti | rodrigo_: sounds trivial, please just file a pro forma MIR bug to explain the split | 13:44 |
| nessita | pitti: MIR for package rodrigo_ was referring to is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/595096 | 14:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 595096 in ubuntu-sso-client "[MIR] ubuntu-sso-client (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] | 14:17 |
| pitti | nessita: thanks; please get it uploaded, so that we can review the package | 14:23 |
| nessita | pitti: the package is uploaded to my PPA, and the package branch is uploaded at https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu/maverick/ubuntu-sso-client/maverick | 14:24 |
| nessita | pitti: dput to ubuntu is rejected | 14:24 |
| nessita | (well, was rejected, I can do it again) | 14:24 |
| pitti | right, see above | 14:24 |
| nessita | pitti: sorry, but not sure what you're asking for :-) | 14:33 |
| pitti | you need a sponsor | 14:34 |
| pitti | kenvandine presumably, or seb128 | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | hey | 14:34 |
| nessita | ah, yes we do | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | nessita, i'll look at that, cool | 14:35 |
| nessita | kenvandine: thank you! anything that you need you can ping rodrigo_ or me | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | will do | 14:36 |
| pitti | kenvandine: good morning, how are you? | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | doing ok, and you? | 14:39 |
| pitti | I'm good, thanks | 14:39 |
| pitti | just squeezing in some ubuntu work | 14:39 |
| * pitti still has 2 WIs for alpha-2 | 14:40 | |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 14:40 |
| * pitti hands seb128 some ice cream | 14:40 | |
| seb128 | pitti, how strongly do we care about alpha2 UNE iso to fit on a CD? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks ;-) | 14:40 |
| pitti | seb128: me personally? about this ---><--- much | 14:40 |
| pitti | for the release I'd care some more, since this is a _netbook_ edition after all | 14:41 |
| pitti | it should be lean and mean and not take 3 GB | 14:41 |
| pitti | why is it so big? | 14:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's basically shipping what the desktop ships | 14:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, why we would want to be over target for a2 is chromium | 14:42 |
| pitti | is that by design? | 14:42 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:42 |
| pitti | i. e. shipping gnome-panel, firefox, etc. | 14:42 |
| pitti | that seems a lot of clutter and cruft for a netbook | 14:43 |
| seb128 | we will look at space use and clean a bit I guess | 14:43 |
| seb128 | we did previous cycle | 14:43 |
| pitti | if someone wants gnome, why not install the normal gnome CD, or apt-get install ubuntu-desktop? | 14:43 |
| seb128 | but we have basically the GNOME platform | 14:43 |
| seb128 | and openoffice | 14:43 |
| seb128 | and firefox | 14:43 |
| pitti | seb128: well, I'd say it's your call this time :) | 14:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, well it's basically gnome-panel replaced by unity | 14:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, the question is because we want chromium by default in alpha2 | 14:44 |
| pitti | drop firefox then? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | but we will not have time to do the xulrunner changes that will bring us CD space | 14:44 |
| bcurtiswx | UNE or Desktop? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | so we will basically have the xul and chromium stacks | 14:44 |
| pitti | I see | 14:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, we would if chrisccoulson was not busy full time on those security updates | 14:44 |
| pitti | seb128: I'd just drop firefox for the sake of clean menus and not shipping two things for one purpose | 14:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, we still need xul or desktopcouch etc | 14:45 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, those are "implementation details" | 14:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, that will not bring us on CD target though | 14:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, which was sort of my question | 14:45 |
| pitti | seb128: as I said, I wouldn't personally care about oversized alpha-2 | 14:45 |
| seb128 | "how much rt cares about alpha2 UNE to be on CD target" | 14:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, thanks | 14:45 |
| pitti | but releasing with xul and the entire gnome stack would be ugly | 14:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, we will clean what we can but chrisccoulson's priority is still security updates and we get closed from alpha2 | 14:46 |
| pitti | seb128: just announce this in the next release meeting so that folks are prepared | 14:46 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:46 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 14:46 |
| * bcurtiswx needs to freshen up with the desktop-team mailing lists | 14:46 | |
| pitti | seb128: I don't see any urgency in cleaning that for a2 | 14:46 |
| * didrocks backlogs in a minute | 14:46 | |
| pitti | we should do feature development now | 14:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I was not sure how much we CD iso limits are rc for alpha | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I know we do care about staying on target for desktop isos and for stable versions | 14:47 |
| pitti | my personal preference for a netbook installation would be 500 MB compressed (or less) and ~ 1 GB installed :) | 14:48 |
| seb128 | I never had to worry about alpha UNE isos before | 14:48 |
| pitti | but yeah, if too many folks insist on OO.o, then *shrug* | 14:48 |
| seb128 | right ;-) | 14:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: pitti: ok, thanks :) | 14:49 |
| didrocks | I'm still scared about CD size with all the new things. I've made a lot of cleanage for lucid, and if we don't remove a major component… | 14:50 |
| pitti | didrocks: ubuntu-desktop? | 14:51 |
| didrocks | pitti: on UNE | 14:51 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes, that's what I mean; drop ubuntu-desktop and GNOME bits, firefox, etc. | 14:51 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, that's basically what I tried to do for lucid. On the image, we still didn't replace the default (apart from unity), so it will still be one for one… We'll see | 14:52 |
| pitti | RAOF: ok, please go wild with adding add_drm_info(); that actually looks like quite nice information, thanks for the idea | 14:54 |
| pitti | RAOF: add to source_xorg.py, I mean | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | nessita, is setup.py meant to be AGPL? | 15:00 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: do you build gtk with rgba in the UNE ppa? | 15:06 |
| didrocks | hey btw :) | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, hey :) | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | yes... want me to remove that? | 15:06 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: well, we got that bug #595013 | 15:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 595013 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "eclipse doesn't start because of libgtk 2.20.1 provide with package in unity ppa (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595013 | 15:06 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: if we can avoid people messing up lucid with rgba as we deactivated it in maverick for now… | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | agreed | 15:07 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: that will rock if you can remove it, thanks :) | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | i'll remove that... i'll make just lucid gtk+menuproxy | 15:07 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 15:09 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, take the patch from yesterday as well | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah... will do | 15:10 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:10 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, could you comment on bug #569442? | 15:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 569442 in linux (Ubuntu) "Silent wraparound on > 2 TB LVM snapshots (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569442 | 15:13 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, it seems something to get sorted before lucid .1 if we can | 15:13 |
| seb128 | ups | 15:13 |
| seb128 | the bot is buggy now? | 15:13 |
| seb128 | it got the wrong title | 15:14 |
| seb128 | bug #1 | 15:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1 in tilix (and 18 other projects) "Microsoft has a majority market share (affects: 445) (heat: 2396)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 15:15 |
| seb128 | weird | 15:15 |
| pitti | seb128: I think most of the WIs on https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-xorg-gpu-freeze-reports are probably going to miss a2; since there is a separate a2 section, having the entire spec being targetted at alpha-2 might actually be an error? | 15:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, why do you think they will miss a2? | 15:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, I didn't notice before it was milestoned for a2, I'm not the one why did that, right seems a mistake | 15:17 |
| pitti | seb128: well, it's less than a week to implement all of it, and there are many dependencies | 15:17 |
| seb128 | we discussed that yesterday and chris though it was still doable | 15:18 |
| pitti | seb128: e. g. before the first two WIs are done we can't start the others | 15:18 |
| pitti | ok | 15:18 |
| seb128 | I will check with him when he's around | 15:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, it would be fine to move in a3 in any case | 15:19 |
| seb128 | I think it makes sense to have that for an early milestone though | 15:19 |
| seb128 | we want debug datas during the unstable cycle | 15:19 |
| pitti | seb128: ok; in particular, my last WI there is at the end of a very long dependency chain | 15:19 |
| pitti | well, I'll talk to RAOF | 15:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, I just dropped the spec milestone | 15:19 |
| pitti | seb128: a3 perhaps? | 15:20 |
| seb128 | I will ask him to move work items to proper targets in the whiteboard | 15:20 |
| pitti | since it is for collecting debug data, after all | 15:20 |
| pitti | but oh well, with that I suddenly have my a2 stuff done, nice :) | 15:20 |
| seb128 | right, what I just said | 15:20 |
| seb128 | a3 seems fine | 15:20 |
| seb128 | we can use either the whiteboard or target the spec | 15:20 |
| seb128 | let's target the spec for a3 until that's discussed | 15:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, good ;-) | 15:20 |
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| bcurtiswx | kenvandine: would I talk to you about a change to adium-theme-ubuntu | 15:57 |
| bcurtiswx | ? | 15:57 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, maybe :) | 15:57 |
| kenvandine | i think we probably need to get folks from design to review | 15:57 |
| * kenvandine just handles the package :) | 15:57 | |
| bcurtiswx | i just want to make /me actions in channels be a different color than the join/parts | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, good idea | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | file a bug and a patch if you can | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | i'll do what i can to get someone to look at it | 15:59 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine: OK, im looking at the code now, i hope to find where to change this soon enough | 15:59 |
| bcurtiswx | i wouldn't know what to grep | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | cool :) | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | me either really :) | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | one of the Content.html files i guess | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | outgoing/Content.html' | 16:00 |
| kenvandine | something like that | 16:00 |
| bcurtiswx | OK | 16:00 |
| dobey | seb128, pitti: do you need to do something if i added a new Build-Dep to a package? lp says it's in dependency wait still | 16:18 |
| pitti | probably a MIR | 16:19 |
| dobey | pitti: oh, Build-Depends-Indeps need to all be in main too? | 16:23 |
| pitti | yes, all build deps need to be | 16:23 |
| dobey | oh ok, maybe i should remove that build dep for now then | 16:24 |
| dobey | we probably don't really need to be running pylint during the build too. just trying to get tests running | 16:25 |
| dobey | yeah, i think i'll do | 16:26 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, the ubuntu-sso-client package is ready (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/595096), can you review and upload it please? | 16:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 595096 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "[MIR] ubuntu-sso-client (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,In progress] | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, will do | 16:28 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, ok, thanks! | 16:28 |
| dobey | rodrigo_, nessita: why didn't you guys upload it to REVU? | 16:29 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, because we got a sponsor already :) | 16:29 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: yes, but anyone can upload to revu, so you can upload it there, and point at it for packaging review, then it can be pushed into universe, and the MIR done | 16:30 |
| dobey | *shrug* | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | actually... i will need seb128 to actually upload it anyway... | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | seb128, do you have time? | 16:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, or i can do a review of it first, if you like | 16:31 |
| dobey | kenvandine: heh, you don't have universe privs yet? | 16:33 |
| chrisccoulson | hi ara | 16:33 |
| kenvandine | nope... i should apply for that :) | 16:33 |
| dobey | yes you should :P | 16:33 |
| ara | hey chrisccoulson, how are you doing? | 16:33 |
| chrisccoulson | we can probably ask people to start testing firefox 3.6.4 on karmic from tomorrow :) | 16:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm good thanks, how are you? | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, gtk uploaded to une ppa | 16:34 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you are not a motu yet? | 16:34 |
| ara | chrisccoulson, cool, what about jaunty? did I miss anything? | 16:34 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: thanks, I guess you can also put the bug #594877 as incomplete | 16:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 594877 in indicator-appmenu "certain applications crash with assertion error on menu_proxy_module_load (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594877 | 16:34 |
| ara | (I was on holidays) | 16:34 |
| chrisccoulson | ara - jaunty will probably follow a couple of days later, but certainly by the end of the week | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | seb128, no... i'll apply for that | 16:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, right, you should | 16:35 |
| chrisccoulson | (thinking about it, a couple of days is the end of the week) | 16:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I've time for a sign and upload now but not to review something to sponsor | 16:35 |
| ara | chrisccoulson, ah, ok, I will start preparing the call for testing and the tracker, let me know (email) when everything is set up and ready to go | 16:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ie if you reviewed it and it just lacks and uploader I can do, otherwise I will let somebody else take it | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ok, i'll review it and ping you | 16:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks | 16:35 |
| chrisccoulson | ara - ok, will do. thank you | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, why is setup.py AGPL? | 16:36 |
| nessita | kenvandine: hey, sorry for the delay, did you get an answer for your question? | 16:36 |
| kenvandine | oh... i missed it | 16:36 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, is it? | 16:36 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, yes... which seems weird to me | 16:36 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:36 |
| dobey | eh | 16:36 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: done. Please use my fix in language-selector (my bzr branch) for SRU as commented in the bug. | 16:36 |
| dobey | kenvandine: oh that may be a pasting thinko on my part :) | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | ok... so first thing to fix | 16:37 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: why is it AGPL? | 16:37 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, no idea :) | 16:37 |
| dobey | nessita: ^ | 16:37 |
| dobey | nessita: becasue we didn't catch it in review of my setup.py fixes | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | also, mocker.py doesn't have any license references ata ll | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | at all | 16:38 |
| dobey | nessita: and i copied/pasted the block from ubuntuone-storage-protocol | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | oh it does | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | __license__ = "PSF License" | 16:38 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, it's an hardy change? | 16:39 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: lucid | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | dobey, also COPYING is GPLv2 and all the files say GPL v3 | 16:39 |
| nessita | dobey: are you fixing it or we are? | 16:39 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, it will not fix upgrades for people who did changes already? | 16:39 |
| dobey | kenvandine: i'll fix that too then | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | thx | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | i guess you need to include the PSF | 16:40 |
| dobey | nessita: making a branch real quick | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | what ever that is | 16:40 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: ? | 16:40 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~arnegoetje/language-selector/language-selector-lucid-0.5.x recent commit is a bug number in a changelog? the previous comment is 1.5 month old? | 16:40 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, and the changelog says karmic? | 16:40 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: argh... needss to be changed to lucid... | 16:41 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, is the language-selector used on upgrade? | 16:42 |
| dobey | kenvandine: for PSF, it's included in the mocker.py file i believe, and just needs to be mentioned appropriately in debian/copyright, as we do in ubuntuone-storage-protocol | 16:42 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: someone told me to apply that fix, but didn't give me the bug number to stick it to, that's why it hasn't been uploaded yet | 16:42 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, I'm not sure how that will fix things for people who used the language selector once 2 years ago on hardy, upgrade and run lucid | 16:42 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, they will not run the language-selector again | 16:42 |
| kenvandine | dobey, it's not in mocker.py | 16:42 |
| dobey | kenvandine: or you can help me get http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/mocker approved and in universe | 16:42 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, so their desktop will still look buggy with your change no? | 16:42 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: the fix is in the fontconfig snippet, which gets activated by language-selector, once the user chooses Japanese as his desktop language | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | dobey, well, it would need to be in main if it was needed for building | 16:43 |
| dobey | kenvandine: then we can switch to using the packaged version and avoid all this mess | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | i guess it isn't | 16:43 |
| dobey | kenvandine: it's not currently, but i just realized that and will have to deal with it i guess :) | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | dobey, ok :) | 16:43 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: the fontconfig snippet is already in place since hardy. this fix will fix the bug in there where it belongs. | 16:43 |
| dobey | kenvandine: because i'd like all our packages to gets tests running during the builds | 16:43 |
| dobey | so i've been doing some work to that end :) | 16:44 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, ok, but that will require to use language selector again no? | 16:44 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: they don't need to run l-s again. | 16:44 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, what happens for users who use japaness on hardy and upgrade? | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | dobey, cool... maybe i can look at that for gwibber tests :) | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | dobey, but for now we need the license included | 16:44 |
| dobey | rodrigo_, nessita: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu-sso-client/setup-license-fix/+merge/27735 | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | and referenced in the copyright file | 16:44 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: they get the new (fixed) font settings like all Lucid users | 16:45 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: it's an issue for all japanese users, not only for upgrades | 16:45 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, oh ok, that changes an config in etc | 16:46 |
| dobey | kenvandine: i think in our other packages, we just have the PSF included/referenced in the debian/copyright | 16:46 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, got it now | 16:46 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: :) | 16:46 |
| seb128 | ArneGoetje, thanks, will sponsor that ;-) | 16:46 |
| dobey | ok, well i'm really off to lunch now. bbiab | 16:46 |
| ArneGoetje | seb128: thanks | 16:46 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, approved | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | dobey, it should also be included in the source | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | or nessita ^^ | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | also, debian/copyright says Files: * | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | Copyright: (C) 2007 Gustavo Niemeyer <gustavo@niemeyer.net> | 16:48 |
| nessita | kenvandine: what in the source? the GPLv3? | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | nessita, well... in dobey's branch it is :) | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | it was wrong | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | oh | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:48 |
| nessita | kenvandine: that (c to Gustavo) was added by python-mkdebian | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | sorry... so you should have reference for PSF for mocker.py in the copyright file | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | and include a copy of the PSF in the source | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | and list GPL-3 for all the other files in debian/copyright | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | nessita, ping me when we get these fixes pushed | 16:54 |
| nessita | kenvandine: yes, thank you | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | crap... the gtk branch for lucid is outdated! | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | lp:ubuntu/lucid/gtk+2.0 was 2.20.0.... 2.20.1 is in lucid :( | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | wasted time.... | 16:56 |
| kenvandine | lucid-updates... wonder why those don't sync back to the source package branch | 16:56 |
| seb128 | likely because lucid is 2.20.0 and lucid-updates 2.20.1 | 16:57 |
| seb128 | so ubuntu/lucid is rightly 2.20.0 | 16:57 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did you try ubuntu/lucid-updates | 16:58 |
| seb128 | hey vish | 16:58 |
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| vish | hi | 16:59 |
| seb128 | vish, we are going to stay mostly on the GNOME from lucid this cycle, just mentionning it in case you don't know | 16:59 |
| kenvandine | seb128, no.. i didn't realize there were branches for those :) | 17:00 |
| seb128 | vish, it might be something to consider for hundredpapercut etc | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | now i know :) | 17:00 |
| vish | seb128: ah. ok. so not even nautilus? | 17:01 |
| seb128 | vish, no | 17:01 |
| seb128 | vish, they will likely use gsettings and gtk3 this cycle | 17:01 |
| seb128 | vish, and we plan to switch to those on 2 cycles | 17:02 |
| vish | hmm, then that leaves us with very little we can probably do.. | 17:03 |
| vish | seb128: .. can we patch Lucid packages? or rather how can we fix papercuts? | 17:04 |
| seb128 | vish, depends of the change I guess | 17:04 |
| seb128 | vish, well we will probably fix less of those this cycle | 17:05 |
| vish | ivanka: mpt: djsiegel ^^^ | 17:05 |
| seb128 | or we need to aim at different ones | 17:05 |
| vish | seb128: there seems to be a little mix up here :s , ivanka / djsiegel might need to decide what to do | 17:07 |
| vish | with the papercuts i mean :) | 17:08 |
| seb128 | vish, right, that's why I pinged you there in case you guys were not tracking what we are doing this cycle | 17:09 |
| seb128 | vish, or to maybe discuss how it impacts what you are doing and what we need to change | 17:10 |
| nessita | kenvandine: PSF license should be added next to COPYING? | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | nessita, yes, something like COPYING.PSF | 17:26 |
| nessita | perfect | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | nessita, and make sure it gets included in DIST | 17:27 |
| nessita | yes | 17:27 |
| kenvandine | thx | 17:27 |
| vish | seb128: if the desktop packages are not being updated , which packages are being updated? [maybe the papercuts can be around those ones?] | 17:43 |
| vish | no one from the ux seems to be aware of this mixup :s | 17:43 |
| seb128 | vish, dx ones are | 17:44 |
| vish | only those? oh my! | 17:44 |
| seb128 | vish, it's not easy to tell right now, it's on a case by case basis that we will decide what to update | 17:44 |
| seb128 | not only those | 17:44 |
| seb128 | we update the platform for example | 17:44 |
| seb128 | but it's not something you care about | 17:44 |
| vish | yeah.. well we dont usually have 'papercut' in those ;) | 17:45 |
| seb128 | we will likely get the new empathy version | 17:45 |
| seb128 | new firefox is there is one | 17:45 |
| seb128 | and new version of things out of GNOME | 17:45 |
| seb128 | ie anything which doesn't require gtk3 or a gsettings change over several components | 17:45 |
| vish | what if patches are done for the Lucid packages? instead of the git branches ones? | 17:46 |
| seb128 | well, we can backport changes | 17:46 |
| seb128 | but they need to apply to our codebase | 17:46 |
| seb128 | we need to be careful about new strings as well etc | 17:47 |
| vish | no string changes? | 17:47 |
| seb128 | not really, we just need to consider impact on translations and documentations so we do those early and consider the extra cost | 17:48 |
| vish | seb128: hmm , then we could just do papercuts and not have a target of 100 , which might make it safer to rule out any problems? | 17:49 |
| seb128 | vish, well, I will let your team judge about what you want to do and target | 17:49 |
| seb128 | I'm just giving you the informations you might need to decide on what you guys want to do | 17:50 |
| vish | yeah , a weird mixup we have :s | 17:50 |
| vish | seb128: thanks for bringing it up atleast now :) | 17:50 |
| seb128 | you're welcome ;-) | 17:51 |
| chrisccoulson | vish - did you send me a message yesterday that i never responded to? | 17:58 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: ah yeah , for the bugsquad mentorship | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, yes, that was it | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure i'd have time to do that at the moment | 17:59 |
| vish | chrisccoulson: yeah , thought so , just wanted to make sure you are really busy ;) | 18:00 |
| rickspencer3 | tremolux, hi | 18:11 |
| tremolux | hi Rick, was just writing you an email :) | 18:12 |
| tremolux | what's up? | 18:12 |
| rickspencer3 | tremolux, ok, otp, need to know something | 18:12 |
| tremolux | sure | 18:12 |
| rickspencer3 | have you guys already implemented lp authentication in software-center? | 18:12 |
| tremolux | yes, we have a sort of rough dialog, but it works | 18:13 |
| tremolux | it logs in and gets a list of private PPAs for the user | 18:13 |
| tremolux | also, let's you check for forgotten password and set up an account of if you need one | 18:14 |
| didrocks | tremolux: are you using launchpadlib or something else to get access? | 18:15 |
| tremolux | it's launchpadlib | 18:16 |
| didrocks | ok, I was hoping of stealing your code :-) | 18:16 |
| didrocks | (as I need some part which aren't in launchpadlib for Quickly) | 18:16 |
| tremolux | didrocks: sure! take a look at softwarecenter/view/login.py | 18:17 |
| didrocks | tremolux: well, if you are using launchpadlib, I'm already using it with Quickly. It's just I need some function which aren't and that won't be in launchpadlib in near futur (pushin gpg/ssh key for instance) :) | 18:18 |
| tremolux | didrocks: oh, I see | 18:18 |
| tremolux | didrocks: missed you comment just above there :P | 18:19 |
| didrocks | tremolux: no worry ;) | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, isn't that what ubuntu-sso-client is going to be fore? | 18:49 |
| kenvandine | for | 18:49 |
| bcurtiswx | playing too much bad golf again ken? </attempt at bad joke> | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | haha | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | :) | 18:50 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: from what I understand, it's to connect to an application using ubuntu sso, not launchpad for instance, but I may be wrong | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | i would think it could be one and the same | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | isn't LP now using sso? | 18:51 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, i could be very wrong :) | 18:51 |
| kenvandine | just wanting to make sure everyone knows what is happening on the roadmap :) | 18:51 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: not sure, as it's not the same interface | 18:51 |
| kenvandine | ok | 18:51 |
| baptistemm_ | hi there | 18:54 |
| chrisccoulson | right, that's all the extensions for karmic in the PPA now | 18:57 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll test everything later to make sure things aren't really broken, then everyone can start testing karmic :) | 18:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, waouh! | 18:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, great work ;-) | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | right, i'm going to pop out for a few minutes whilst i wait for the last few bits to build | 19:00 |
| nessita | kenvandine: package changes push to the package branch, shall I dput the package somewhere? | 19:24 |
| kenvandine | nessita, nah... let me look | 19:30 |
| nessita | kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu/maverick/ubuntu-sso-client/maverick | 19:30 |
| nessita | (jic :-)) | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | got it :) | 19:31 |
| didrocks | nessita: hey, we were wondering with kenvandine a little bit before: does ubuntu-sso-client enables to connect to Launchpad? | 19:31 |
| jcastro | didrocks: is the queue view totally broken for you in banshee-meego? | 19:32 |
| nessita | didrocks: right now ubuntu-sso-client is the plain split of the former code in u1-client | 19:32 |
| nessita | didrocks: we're meant to change it to be a generic app to login using SSO | 19:32 |
| didrocks | jcastro: hum, no, it's not, what do you mean by broken? | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | nessita, ok, is that happening for maverick? | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | or sometime in the future? | 19:32 |
| jcastro | didrocks: totally empty | 19:32 |
| nessita | kenvandine: maverick should be, yes :-) | 19:32 |
| didrocks | jcastro: let me check again while my build finishes :) | 19:32 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: right? ^ | 19:33 |
| kenvandine | nessita, so another app can use it to login to LP | 19:33 |
| didrocks | nessita: great ;) | 19:33 |
| kenvandine | or just U1? | 19:33 |
| jcastro | didrocks: ah, it's empty because the dropdown in the fwd. button on the bottom seems to not be hooked up? | 19:33 |
| nessita | kenvandine: yes, it should be generic enough, it will not be tied to ubuntuone | 19:33 |
| jcastro | didrocks: hmm, or is it, it's weird | 19:33 |
| kenvandine | nessita, awesome | 19:33 |
| nessita | :-) | 19:33 |
| didrocks | jcastro: the dropdown about cycling? | 19:34 |
| jcastro | yeah | 19:34 |
| jcastro | didrocks: oh I know why it looks broken, the Q keyboard binding seems broken | 19:34 |
| jcastro | but if you right click and add a song the queue it works | 19:35 |
| didrocks | jcastro: hum, I didn't cycle normally, but keep that in part, I'll try to have a look | 19:35 |
| didrocks | jcastro: the Q is to add a new element? | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | nessita, did we figure out what was up with the text in the LICENSE file for PSF? | 19:35 |
| jcastro | it's to add something to the play queue | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | is that good to go? | 19:35 |
| didrocks | jcastro: ok, and right, it seems to not working | 19:35 |
| jcastro | it works in the desktop ui | 19:36 |
| * jcastro will go upstream | 19:36 | |
| didrocks | yeah :) | 19:36 |
| nessita | kenvandine: Gustavo will fix it eventually, but not ETA. dobey suggested we should ship the LICENSE juts like it is in the mocker source tree | 19:36 |
| kenvandine | ok | 19:36 |
| kenvandine | nessita, copy/paste bug in debian/control | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | ${python:Depends}${misc:Depends}, | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | three is a misc:Depends on the line above | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | and python:Depends on the line below that | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | so you can just remove that line | 19:45 |
| nessita | kenvandine: I never edited that file, I used python-mkdebian, I'll check | 19:47 |
| kenvandine | ok, just remove that line | 19:47 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: it's a bug on python-mkdebian on certain condition | 19:47 |
| nessita | yes, totally yes | 19:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: btw, if you don't know it, I didn't find the minimum reproducal example ^ (python-mkdebian producing ${python:Depends}${misc:Depends},) | 19:48 |
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| nessita | didrocks: can I help somehow? | 19:49 |
| nessita | kenvandine: Pushed up to revision 10. | 19:49 |
| didrocks | nessita: I didn't have any time for looking at it, but if you feel brave about it, sure. It's just trying to discover when python-mkdebian is triggering that case | 19:50 |
| didrocks | nessita: the package containing it is python-distutilsextra (never sured about where the hypens are) | 19:50 |
| didrocks | so, if you have some time to look at it, that will rock :) | 19:50 |
| nessita | didrocks: I have to package another (personal) project of mine, and I'll use it, so I'll try to break it :-) | 19:51 |
| * nessita likes to break things | 19:51 | |
| kenvandine | nessita, great :) | 19:51 |
| didrocks | nessita: awesome \o/ | 19:51 |
| kenvandine | nessita, one more change | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | UNRELEASED | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | instead of maverick for the series in the changelog | 19:53 |
| didrocks | nessita: also, keep in mind that python-mkdebian can be used to refresh debian/control dep when you relaunch it | 19:53 |
| nessita | kenvandine: oh, I changed that back because I couldn't upload the .deb to my PPA | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | nessita, we do that until it is uploaded to the archive | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | yeah, you need that to upload | 19:54 |
| nessita | kenvandine: ok, changing it back again... | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | this way anyone that looks at the branch will know it isn't | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | ok... push that | 19:54 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: normally it's to the sponsored to replace UNRELEASED -> maverick :) | 19:54 |
| nessita | understood | 19:54 |
| didrocks | sponsor* | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | lp:~nataliabidart/ubuntu/maverick/ubuntu-sso-client/maverick | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, yeah... | 19:55 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, got time to sponsor that? | 19:55 |
| kenvandine | i think it is good | 19:55 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: in 10 minutes? | 19:56 |
| kenvandine | sure | 19:56 |
| kenvandine | thx | 19:56 |
| nessita | kenvandine: changes pushed to revno 11 | 19:56 |
| didrocks | I'll have a look again, of course :) | 19:56 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: does all the LICENSE thing fixed? | 19:56 |
| didrocks | is* | 19:56 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it contains the exact text that comes with mocker.py | 19:56 |
| didrocks | ok :) | 19:57 |
| nessita | kenvandine, didrocks: thank you! | 19:57 |
| nessita | I'll be around just in case | 19:58 |
| kenvandine | np | 19:58 |
| didrocks | nessita: yw | 19:58 |
| baptistemm_ | someone can review branches lp:~bluetooth/ubuntu/maverick/obexd/main and lp:~bluetooth/ubuntu/maverick/bluez/main ? | 19:58 |
| * nessita goes to make some mate | 19:59 | |
| didrocks | nessita, kenvandine: I won't be able to do a proper review today, I guess. Will have a look tomorrow | 20:14 |
| nessita | didrocks: can I brave you somehow? :-P | 20:15 |
| didrocks | baptistemm_: je connais pas vraiment ça, sinon je l'aurais fait :/ | 20:15 |
| nessita | didrocks: sorry, I meant bribe :-) | 20:15 |
| seb128 | review what? | 20:16 |
| didrocks | nessita: ahah, no need. Just to do a clean review and too tired tonight to do it :) and want to make this banshee things WORKS | 20:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's time to call it a day now, I hope you had dinner | 20:16 |
| nessita | didrocks: no problem, let's start fresh tomorrow | 20:16 |
| seb128 | nessita, I can do a review now if you need one | 20:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: not yet, but I'm shifted today ^^ | 20:16 |
| seb128 | didn't you ask kenvandine? | 20:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, go to dinner and enjoy your evening | 20:17 |
| nessita | seb128: yes, but somehow kenvandine pass the ball to didrocks | 20:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, banshee can wait tomorrow | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128, you dropped off and didrocks was around | 20:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you will not have lot to do before dx start rolling tarballs | 20:17 |
| nessita | seb128: I'm still not sure who does what | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128, got time for a review? or tomorrow? | 20:17 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, now is fine | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | great | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | lp:~nataliabidart/ubuntu/maverick/ubuntu-sso-client/maverick | 20:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah yeah, I planned to have nothing to do tomorrow, and I have been able to start working on banshee at 5pm :) | 20:18 |
| nessita | didrocks, kenvandine, seb128: we can wait till tomorrow, so as it fit best for you all | 20:18 |
| baptistemm_ | didrocks, pas de problème | 20:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I will make sure you can focus on that tomorrow morning, starting by doing that review for you now ;-) | 20:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, go and enjoy your evening! ;-) | 20:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: heh, thanks. Still trying to strike a little bit for 10 min and I will go then :-) | 20:19 |
| seb128 | nessita, we tend to all be busy, now is better than tomorrow, I'm somewhat hanging around while watching football on TV while during the day I try to get work done | 20:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok ;-) | 20:19 |
| seb128 | nessita, usually new source review goes through motu and revu | 20:20 |
| nessita | seb128: are you cheering for uruguay or for sudafrica? | 20:20 |
| seb128 | nessita, let's see sudafrica to be supportive with the boss ;-) | 20:22 |
| nessita | heh | 20:22 |
| seb128 | nessita, I'm supportive for the french team in that group ;-) | 20:22 |
| nessita | well, you just should cheer for Argentina, it will win the world cup anyways, so better start early :-P | 20:23 |
| seb128 | lol | 20:23 |
| seb128 | let's see ;-) | 20:23 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 20:24 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, nessita: seems fine to me | 20:28 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, nessita: the only thing I've no clue about is if you can distribute psf sources under the gpk | 20:28 |
| seb128 | gpl | 20:28 |
| seb128 | the COPYING indicates it should | 20:30 |
| nessita | seb128: if the mocker thing is complicating things, I think I should remove it from the package, honestly, since we're not distributing the tests and the mocker is used only for those | 20:30 |
| seb128 | right, seems alright, the license says it's gpl compatible | 20:30 |
| nessita | ok | 20:31 |
| seb128 | nessita, kenvandine: you need sponsoring or just review? | 20:31 |
| nessita | seb128: I'm not sure :-$ | 20:31 |
| nessita | kenvandine: help? | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, sponsoring | 20:31 |
| nessita | ah! | 20:31 |
| seb128 | ok | 20:31 |
| seb128 | will do that now | 20:32 |
| kenvandine | thx seb128 | 20:32 |
| dobey | hrmm | 20:34 |
| dobey | isn't update-manager -d supposed to let me upgrade to maverick? | 20:34 |
| seb128 | seems it's buggy | 20:34 |
| seb128 | somebody mentioned it some days ago and mvo is on holiday this week... | 20:34 |
| nessita | dobey: I think you need to enable to accept "non LTS" released | 20:34 |
| nessita | dobey: but not sure how :-) | 20:34 |
| dobey | bah i set that preference already years ago | 20:35 |
| dobey | when i was on the last lts and wanted to upgrade | 20:36 |
| dobey | so 2 bugs then it seems | 20:36 |
| seb128 | just dist-upgrade the old way | 20:36 |
| nessita | dobey: then #ubuntu+1 is where you wanna ask ;-) | 20:36 |
| nessita | seb128: but if something breaks, people in #ubuntu+1 would say you did it in the not-recommended way :-( | 20:37 |
| dobey | nessita: i know how to change the pref. i just wouldn't expect it to be reset automatically when i already set it | 20:37 |
| nessita | dobey: I have no eth0, don't fight me | 20:37 |
| seb128 | nessita, it's not recommended to upgrade now anyway | 20:37 |
| * nessita cries over her eth0 | 20:37 | |
| nessita | seb128: we as desktop people have to, as far as I understand | 20:37 |
| seb128 | if you need to upgrade now you are probably in the category of users who can deal with using the command line to upgrade | 20:38 |
| nessita | seb128: I agree, but after my update my eth0 was gone, and the first answer I got was "you updated in the not-recommended way" | 20:39 |
| nessita | which had nothing to do with eth0 being gone | 20:40 |
| dobey | *why* is your eth0 gone? | 20:40 |
| dobey | no more driver? | 20:40 |
| nessita | dobey: nopes, some IRQ issue, it escalated to intel driver devs, seems like I have to flash my BIOS | 20:41 |
| nessita | which sucks | 20:41 |
| dobey | oh | 20:41 |
| nessita | yeah | 20:41 |
| seb128 | nessita, let's not comment on random quality of IRC responds ;-) | 20:41 |
| dobey | and you don't have a DOS floppy to boot from? | 20:41 |
| dobey | ;) | 20:42 |
| seb128 | nessita, kenvandine; didrocks: ubuntu-sso-client uploaded | 20:42 |
| nessita | dobey: nopes, not even a CD-DVD rom to boot from. I was given a few guidelines on how to do it with a pendrive | 20:42 |
| nessita | dobey: so I have to take a deep breathe and try it | 20:42 |
| nessita | seb128: yeyyyyyyy | 20:42 |
| dobey | que sera, sera :) | 20:43 |
| liminal | hello | 20:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks :) | 20:44 |
| liminal | ive got a major ongoing problem with my latest ubuntu installation | 20:44 |
| nessita | seb128: that means that I should be able to install it from the maverick repos? | 20:44 |
| liminal | applications keep randomly stopping | 20:44 |
| seb128 | nessita, let's say tomorrow | 20:45 |
| liminal | is there a good peice of monitoring software that might log what issue is causing them to close? | 20:45 |
| nessita | seb128: that's just *perfect* | 20:45 |
| seb128 | nessita, it's waiting to be accepted now and then needs to be build | 20:45 |
| nessita | seb128, didrocks, kenvandine: thank you very much! | 20:45 |
| kenvandine | np nessita | 20:45 |
| nessita | dobey, rodrigo_: you too :-) (this is my first package) | 20:45 |
| kenvandine | good job nessita | 20:45 |
| * nessita dances | 20:46 | |
| * dobey moans about setup.py | 20:46 | |
| seb128 | Riddell, still around? any chance you could NEW review ubuntu-sso-client today or tomorrow? | 20:46 |
| Riddell | seb128: can do, give me a minute | 20:46 |
| seb128 | Riddell, thanks | 20:46 |
| * nessita will reboot to see if nvidia drivers work | 20:47 | |
| dobey | man, once you start doing stuff to packages in main, it seems like everything has to go in main | 20:47 |
| Riddell | seb128: accepted! | 20:59 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, nessita: ^ | 20:59 |
| seb128 | Riddell, thanks | 21:00 |
| nessita | Riddell: thanks! | 21:00 |
| nessita | seb128: well, my video is finally settled. Do I need to do anything else re: ubuntu-sso-client? | 21:22 |
| seb128 | nessita, no | 21:22 |
| nessita | seb128: well, that's great news. Thank you! | 21:22 |
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| rodrigo_ | rickspencer3, ready for our call with nessita? | 22:00 |
| rickspencer3 | rodrigo_, yeah | 22:00 |
| rodrigo_ | rickspencer3, mumble? | 22:00 |
| * rickspencer3 first up mumble | 22:00 | |
| nessita | rickspencer3, rodrigo_: what channel? | 22:01 |
| rodrigo_ | rickspencer3, we are under Online Services/Desktop | 22:01 |
| rodrigo_ | rickspencer3, unless you prefer another channel? | 22:01 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, around? | 22:02 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, hey | 22:11 |
| kenvandine | just heading out | 22:12 |
| rickspencer3 | ok | 22:12 |
| rickspencer3 | nevermind :) | 22:12 |
| kenvandine | what's up? | 22:12 |
| kenvandine | ok | 22:12 |
| kenvandine | later! | 22:12 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, i got one gtk widget done in vala :) | 22:13 |
| * kenvandine runs out | 22:13 | |
| seb128 | if you use maverick on amd64 don't upgrade today | 22:21 |
| seb128 | there is an initramfs bug right now breaking things | 22:21 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, oh, why? | 22:21 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, won't upgrade | 22:21 |
| seb128 | the fix has been uploaded but it will take some hours before having it build and published and ready to download | 22:22 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, does everyone know nessita? | 22:23 |
| rickspencer3 | she started on U1 a few weeks ago, and so will be working in here a lot, I guess | 22:23 |
| nessita | I started on the desktop side of U! a few weeks ago ;-) | 22:23 |
| nessita | U1* | 22:23 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, I guess not, I reviewed a package for her today but didn't know she was on the online services team before | 22:24 |
| seb128 | nessita, welcome on board ;-) | 22:24 |
| nessita | seb128: :-) | 22:24 |
| seb128 | if you need anything you can just ask there | 22:24 |
| seb128 | sometime people are a bit busy but we usually try to help when we can | 22:25 |
| didrocks | welcome nessita :) | 22:25 |
| Sarvatt | seb128: refreshed the lcdfilter patch - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/cairo/ | 22:26 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, you rock! | 22:26 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, can you get the new cairo version in the xorg edger ppa then? | 22:27 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, didrocks ... bad news ... | 22:27 |
| rickspencer3 | nessita says we all have to learn Spanish now | 22:27 |
| Sarvatt | yep of course, just wanted to refresh that before putting it there because people would complain :) | 22:27 |
| nessita | seb128, didrocks: thank you! like you've discovered already, I'm pretty new to the packaging stuff -- I worked for U1 foundations for 7 months, so I never dealt with a package before :-) | 22:27 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, ola! | 22:27 |
| rickspencer3 | si | 22:28 |
| nessita | rickspencer3: and drink mate! | 22:28 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: finish your French class first :) | 22:28 |
| nessita | :-D | 22:28 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 22:28 |
| rickspencer3 | si es oui en Espanol | 22:28 |
| didrocks | I can do the second part ^^ | 22:28 |
| rickspencer3 | no puedo usar el ~ | 22:28 |
| rodrigo_ | right, the desktop team has too many French | 22:28 |
| nessita | rickspencer3: you need to have a US intl layout | 22:28 |
| nessita | je parle un petit peut de francais | 22:29 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: there is never "too many French" :) | 22:29 |
| didrocks | nessita: très bien :) | 22:29 |
| nessita | heh | 22:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, coming from GNOME you should know that you need to speak french in the desktop world ;-) | 22:29 |
| nessita | didrocks: I guess I can practice in Prague while we drink mate | 22:29 |
| seb128 | I will need to watch didrocks | 22:29 |
| didrocks | seb128: what? ;) | 22:29 |
| nessita | seb128, didrocks, kenvandine: rodrigo_ and I are attending to the Prague sprint, so we'll get a chance to meet | 22:30 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, no, we taught Spanish to vuntz when he was in Valencia! | 22:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, seems you already have drinking plans one month before being there | 22:30 |
| didrocks | nessita: heh, sorry for not speaking spanish, I picked German | 22:30 |
| rickspencer3 | rodrigo_, and nessita will be there | 22:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: heh, that's the Free Software ecosystem :) | 22:30 |
| rickspencer3 | so, ha much Espana por el sprinto | 22:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ;-) | 22:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you will not trick me to stay at the bar every night this time ;-) | 22:30 |
| seb128 | I didn't see that coming at UDS | 22:31 |
| didrocks | seb128: what? it will be my fault? No way :-) | 22:31 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, we can teach you "do cervasas por favor" | 22:31 |
| seb128 | lol | 22:31 |
| seb128 | nessita, will be nice to see you at the sprint then ;-) | 22:31 |
| rickspencer3 | and thanks for the weekly releases, that will help lots | 22:32 |
| nessita | rickspencer3: your Spanish is really funny, no offense :-) | 22:32 |
| seb128 | I guess spanish is easier to speak than write | 22:33 |
| nessita | rickspencer3: but I guess my french is even funnier :-P | 22:33 |
| nessita | well guys, it was great meeting you more formally. I need to run some errands now | 22:34 |
| * nessita bbl | 22:34 | |
| seb128 | nessita, have fun | 22:34 |
| didrocks | enjoy nessita | 22:34 |
| rickspencer3 | yo hablo mucho Espanol muy bueno | 22:37 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 22:37 |
| rodrigo_ | rickspencer3, cool, continue practicing for when we switch the whole company to Spanish :) | 22:38 |
| rickspencer3 | carumba! | 22:38 |
| Sarvatt | not sure edgers is a good place for this cairo though if you want testing for possible inclusion in maverick, for one i fixed xserver to advertise renderproto 0.11 so pdf blend operators are used and that's not upstream yet, plus I use git checkouts of pixman that aren't going to be in maverick | 22:40 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, ok, can you hand it over to me so I can upload it to the ubuntu-desktop ppa | 22:47 |
| Sarvatt | it's all at the link i gave ya - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/cairo/ | 22:49 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, <ickle>seb128: any chance of packaging cairo.git in xorg-edgers? | 22:49 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, that was on #cairo the other day | 22:49 |
| Sarvatt | surprised he didn't just ask me | 22:49 |
| Sarvatt | he uses edgers | 22:49 |
| seb128 | well they were trying to convince me to ship 1.9 in maverick | 22:49 |
| seb128 | I argued that their schedule was not really reliable | 22:49 |
| seb128 | so next they asked if we could start by testing in a ppa | 22:50 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, right, he said he would get cairo it from the ppa if we had it there ;-) | 22:50 |
| Sarvatt | i'm still putting it in edgers its just edgers is pretty radically different than what's going to be in maverick, i thought you needed the new cairo for poppler | 22:50 |
| seb128 | well turn out we don't really | 22:51 |
| seb128 | the new version build with our cairo | 22:51 |
| seb128 | it will just lack some of the new things | 22:51 |
| seb128 | I will push the new cairo in the ubuntu-desktop ppa as well I guess | 22:51 |
| Sarvatt | someone wanted newer cairo for pdf, i think it was for simple-scan | 22:52 |
| seb128 | it's likely | 22:52 |
| seb128 | as said upstream would like us to ship it in maverick | 22:52 |
| seb128 | so it's going to be useful | 22:52 |
| seb128 | I think we will start by testing in the xorg and ubuntu-desktop ppa | 22:52 |
| Sarvatt | only problem i've had after a day using it is chrome/chromium seems to be a bit screwed up, the icons on the tabs blink when it refreshes | 22:54 |
| seb128 | ok | 22:55 |
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